Episode 6 - Confessionals

[Owen]

FiFi Ruins My Life

[Owen]

OMGAW. So, like, I'm like, totally like, going to like, die. Unless Allan was able to switch the immunity to me before the deadline, I'm done. This isn't like last season where I thought that I was going every round because I lynched a spy the first exile. Sure, I hit one again first exile this time *blushes* but have also nailed two in a row in a way that most people SHOULD be able to tell was not bussing. Unless they think I'm Trey, there's no way in hell they should think that I've bussed Alexei, Isaac, AND Magalie. Though, with the amount of people I feel need to get their head into the game, maybe there's some people out there thinking I'm epicscum. I'll be sorry to let those people down, as there's nothing either epic or scummy about me. I just catch spies, yo.

If it's not me, it's almost certainly going to be one of O's-Town, which even if they don't know it, is the name of our little 5-(almost surely)citizen group. Tina was mine to begin with. Cory claimed to me. Chance and Gertrude claimed to me. I convinced Chance and Gertrude to claim to Cory as well. Cory and I convince a reluctant Chance and Gertrude to claim to Tina. So yes, I take full credit for this group if we're all citizens. If we've got scum in here, I blame Cory, just because. But yes, one of us is surely going to take the bullet this imprisonment, and it will be a sad day.

Unfortunately, someone other than the five of us knows about those between heaven and hell now. Mary, who had been on mine and Cory's ass (him moreso, as I've been trying to avoid her like the fucking plague) knew that something was up between myself/Chance/Cory, and that (I guess) forced Cory into getting Chance to claim to her. While it's going to be great to have someone else that will lay off of Chance, there's more layers to this onion [lover] than I've yet to see. I don't trust her, and I feel like putting her back on the senate was the biggest mistake that I've made so far... that I know of. To sum things up: Mary knows about the Masons, Chance being the Devil, there being an Angel, and most likely that Cory is the doctor (and that I knew that Cory was the doctor). She doesn't know Gertrude's involvement and that she's the Angel, but it will be extremely easy for her to figure things out based on the relationship Gertrude has with Chance.

Basically, if Mary is scum, this entire thing we've had going is going to collapse quicker than I anticipated. Quicker than a blonde on prom night, Cinnamyn on a corndog, Yuri on a lead, Jeff Francouer on balls out of the strikezone, a certain Spies alumni's boyfriend in bed, Dane to an argument, and Sam to BBUK Ben's penis the second Ben gives up the charade of being into the vag. But I completely understand why Cory did it at the time. Mary was onto us, she felt like she wasn't included, and thus was more likely to spread it. If we tell her and she's a citizen, we earn another possible ally and keep this thing going a bit longer. High risk, high reward. If it fails, again, I'll just blame it on Cory.

While I'll blame everything that could possibly go long on him, I think I enjoy his company in the game the most. Sure, I love me some Tina, Gert, Chance, Stephanie, Hambone (and others) but Cory is the person I feel most comfortable sharing my thoughts to without having them used against me. This almost certainly isn't a clown situation where I trust him because I need someone to trust. I trust him because he's given me no reason not to. Much props to him if he's a spy, because I can't see it at all.

I need to do some reading up on a few people during this break, even if I do feel like I'm not going to be around for the lynch this round. If I'm gonna go, I'm gonna make sure that my opinions are out there for the people that I trust, and I want them to follow through with some of things that I was thinking. In particular, I want to look much more into Broderdick, Dane, and Kiara.


Broderick - All of his top suspects are people I think are town. Constantly twisting peoples words/trying to discredit others. If he's a spy, he's playing the ultimate non-bus game, which would make sense by his constant reminder that "spies bus a lot more than you think" after Isaac was lynched.
Dane - I know that he's avoiding AIM, as you can tell that he's paying attention to the boards. When he comes on AIM, it's very rare that there's not some sort of argument. He asks questions, but none of them have lead to anything productive at all. The bribe for his vote episode 2 still seems a bit off to me, as Dane does not seem like an important vote -- possibly more WIFOM from a spy group that I suspect is using tons of it (hello, Magalie). Has seemingly stopped doing anything productive since being "cleared" by Alexei. The fight that "cleared" him seems legitimate, but who wouldn't legitimately be mad with duchbag Dane busing you?
Kiara - We haven't talked once since she gave me the ultimate power -- don't you think someone who trusted you enough with a power that big would have more invested in you? Since replacing original Kiara, has gone after people that have either been confirmed citizens (Themba) or are people I think are citizens (Stephanie, Claude). Basically threatened Cory; pretty UTR OMGUS. Yep, I just said UTR OMGUS.
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(these next to fall into the "there has to be a smart spy" category)
Cinnamyn - Gut. Not hers, mine. Magalie flipping scum looks good for her, but at the same time, the spies know that keeping Chance in the game as long as possible (before having him mislynched) is the way to go. It would keep Claude's role off of the spies and would keep others from looking at other suspects while they stick to their Chance suspicions. Also, she apparently received a bribe -- I DO NOT TRUST THESE WIFOM SPIES.
Awohali - Guy is smart. I expect more than what we've gotten from him. There's not much on him and I suspect Cinnamyn more, but other than a good vibe that I get from him, he's done nothing that makes me that he has to be town.
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Mary - Magalie flipping scum moves her up a bit, as she pushed extremely hard for Chance to go. She's a tough read.
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Rondak - Likely going to be replaced. Went back and forth between acting he didn't know where he was and then having solid knowledge of the game. However, rereading the conversations that I had with him, I found that a lot of the things he was saying were things that I had told and that he was repeating. Maybe to appear as town, maybe to just feel like he was completely inept. I'm unsure about him now.
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Hambone - Can't get a read on him. For the 30948238th time, I think the Survivor thing is an act. He may have played Survivor before, but he also has Mafia experience (and I wouldn't be surprised if he had Spies experience either). Seems to be trying to buddy up to more trusted town (Tina and myself). Is stuck on Jenny, and when he's not on her, he's on someone connected to her (Allan).
Jasmine - Isaac stuff with her looked legitimate, but other than that, she's sketchy.
Zedekiah - It's still not out of the question that Alexei got caught up busing Zedekiah, especially with the way the votes played out. He still doesn't contribute much though, and it's surprising to me that the spies haven't tried bringing him back up with the lack of hunting he does and all of the odd things he did earlier on.
Jenny - I thought she was opening up to me a bit more lately, then I re-read my conversations, and I'm not sure that's the case. While we talk more than we did before, a lot of the things she says are just stating things that happened. Rarely do you get a solid stance or opinion out of her.
Allan - When we talk, he screams n00b town to me. His role-claim to Jenny screamed n00b town. His claiming that he doesn't make cases on others because he's worried about imprisonments screams n00b town. However, some of the things he does just screams n00b (without the town part): wanting Claude out just to get rid of his role, lying about vote reasonings, lying about things that you have no need to lie about, etc.

Falling off my list for now is Lawrence for his vote of Magalie over Themba and pushing Magalie as a suspect.

Also considering putting Claude back on my list. He's always said some crazy shit about Magalie that makes me wonder. The Isaac vote against him Episode 1 makes him look good, but that's what busing should be about -- making yourself look good. Reconsidering him at the moment. *this reconsidering began as I noticed I was leaving him off my list*

THAT BE ALL. Gotta do some critiques before I sleep. Hate life.

[Owen]

Allan: Owen, Savannah, Magalie, Isaac? (nom), Lawrence (nom)
Awohali: Chance, Magalie, Magalie, Jenny? (nom), Chance (nom)
Broderick: Chance, Jasmine, Jasmine/Themba, Jasmine? (nom), Chance (nom)
Chance: Claude, No Vote, Magalie, Claude? (nom), Magalie (nom)
Cinnamyn: Margot, Margot, Magalie, Jenny? (nom), Magalie
Claude: Camilla, Isaac, Chance, Isaac? (nom), Chance (nom)
Cory: Camilla, Isaac, Magalie, Isaac? (nom), Magalie
Dane: Alexei, Savannah, Stephanie/Themba, Stephanie? (nom), Rondak (nom)
Gertrude: Camilla, Margot, Magalie, Rondak? (nom), No Nomination
Hambone: Alexei, Allan, Jenny, Jenny? (nom), Gertrude (nom)
Jasmine: Chance, Margot, Themba/Themba, Isaac? (nom), Jenny (nom)
Jenny: Zedekiah, Stephanie, Magalie, Stephanie? (nom), Magalie (nom)
Kiara: Votes: Kiara, Themba, Themba/Themba, Claude? (nom), Rondak (nom)
Lawrence: Claude, Margot, Stephanie/Magalie, Stephanie? (nom), Did Not Vote
Mary: Chance, Magalie, Mary, Isaac? (nom), Magalie
Owen: Alexei, Savannah, Isaac/Themba, Isaac, Magalie
Rondak: Alexei, Savannah, No Exile, Jenny? (nom), No Nomination
Stephanie: Dane, Savannah, Lawrence/Magale, Lawrence? (nom), Chance (nom)
Tina: Zedekiah, Savannah, Themba/Themba, Isaac? (nom), Magalie (nom)
Zedekiah: Allan, Themba, Themba/Themba, Rondak? (nom), Magalie (nom)

Alexei: Dane
Isaac: Claude, Claude, Jasmine/Themba, ?
Magalie: Gertrude, Margot, Magalie, Claude? (nom), Chance

I love how I included myself (as if I can't remember how I've voted) just to show off my voting record.

[Owen]

[Owen]

I don't want to go. Not in the least. There were times where I was telling Tina that she should keep Allan on her, but now I'm thinking that if I can stay, even if it's over Tina, I want to stay. Tina is amazing, but really, I feel like for all the things she is better at than me (staying focused, not getting lazy) that I'm better at making decisions in crunch-time. She's the type that can come up with all of the information possible, be completely on the right track, then screw things up at the last second.

The most devastating thing ever happened today though... in my critiques, someone said that I'm... boring, and that they'd be shocked if I could ever make them laugh. I'm hoping it was actually Cory that was doing it for fun, or else someone is going to be thoroughly disappointed when they find out that I'm funnier than they are. I wrote Anton's confessionals in Spies 7. That was me. Remember that.

I need to do some reading and note taking. If I'm going out, I'm going out with my thoughts in (I hope) the right peoples hands.

GO TOWN.

[Owen]

PM SENT TO CORY AND TINA:

Don't have much time, but just want to get a few of my thoughts to you just incase I do take the bullet tonight.

One that I want people to keep their eyes open to is the use of WIFOM by these Spies. Magalie getting her senate vote and then flipping scum makes me think that the spies were hoping they could sneak Magalie onto the senate and get away with it because of Magalie's WIFOM herself, and because of the WIFOM provided by her actually getting her vote back.

Watch out for the PUBLIC BRIBES. I don't think these spies are that smart.

Also, don't forget about the Isaac theory -- could mean that there are more ex-Democrat spies that he was protecting. spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=809

Broderick: Chance, Jasmine, Jasmine/Themba, Jasmine? (nom), Chance (nom)

- Twists words, makes attacks on others. Perfect mislynching tools.
- Has tried taking attention off of the last two spies that have been lynched -- saying it would be in poor taste to lynch Isaac, trying to put attention on Chance/Gert last time.
- Has made comments about spies bussing more than you think they would, something that would draw attention away from someone not bussing at all (himself).
- All of his top suspects are people that I'm almost positive are town & viable mislynch options (Chance/Gert). Even makes subtle attempts at discrediting me.

spies8mary (12:08:42 AM): Broderick, who did you learn the most about today?
spies8broderick (12:23:52 AM): I probably learned for the most part that there seems to be a lot of misrepping and misquoting. A lot of he/she saids going around
spies8broderick (12:24:33 AM): I noticed Gertie seems to be a lot more lurkerish than I thought she would be

Small, but I find it odd coming from him that he's worried about people misquoting and misrepresenting considering he's the master of twisting words.

spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=burg&thread=891&page=1#4745 Examples of his misquoting here.

spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=burg&thread=826&page=1#5054 In poor taste to lynch Isaac?


After Isaac was lynched:

(1:30:28 AM) spies8broderick: Spies will bus each other. A lot more common than people seem to think.
(1:59:38 AM) spies8broderick: I disagree. Bussing is not rare, and it happens more often than people think it does.


Trying to discredit me without looking bad for it:

[21:19] spies8broderick: FTR. I find that Owen picked Mary for the Senate, when they hadn't talked until ep 4 to be fishy.
[21:20] spies8tina: *sigh* who else would he have picked?
[21:20] spies8tina: I told him not to pick me.
[21:20] spies8stephanie: he didn't have the opportunity to talk to her until ep 4 did he?
[21:21] spies8stephanie: and if i had to guess, i think he might be have been trying to bridge the rep/dem divide
[21:22] spies8stephanie: i know he expressed dismay at the us vs them during ep 3
[21:22] spies8broderick: He said he thought her citizen. So how could he really get a good read on her, if he'd only first talked to her ep 4?
[21:23] spies8stephanie: idk, love at first sight?
[21:24] spies8cory: Owen is a good guy
[21:24] spies8cory: nothing fishy here.
[21:24] spies8stephanie: brod are you just mad cause he didn't pick you?
[21:25] spies8broderick: I'm not mad
[21:26] spies8broderick: I didn't say Owen was a bad guy. I said I thought it was a fishy move.
[21:26] spies8tina: It was a solid enough choice I think.
[21:27] spies8tina: Whole lot more worse then better choices.
[21:27] spies8zedekiah: I've got t' leave for now, later everyone
[21:27] spies8zedekiah: has left the chat
[21:28] spies8cory: Fishy seems to imply bad intentions
[21:28] spies8cory: And I doubt there were any
[21:31] spies8broderick: That still does equate to 'Owen being a bad guy'
[21:31] spies8broderick: *does not
[21:31] spies8cory: Then what does it equate to?
[21:31] spies8cory: I'm not seeing what you're getting at unless you think his choice makes him more likely to be a Spy.
[21:32] spies8broderick: It equates to a fishy move.
[21:32] spies8broderick: You say you think someone is a cit, but out of 4 eps you only talked to them for the first time the latest ep?
[21:33] spies8broderick: Why not pick Tina and tell the Doc to protect her?
[21:33] spies8cory: Shhhh

More suspicion shifting after Magalie goes, trying to make it seem like she was bussed:
[23:01] spies8broderick: She probably messed up, then didn't know how to get herself out of it. So her spypals most likely turned on her as a sacrifice

Random quote from his Ep 4 Suspicions/Nominations --
Trying to keep my eye on/ Have hit my Radar:
Chance - He caused a headache mess in the first episode which involved hesaidhesaid things. He is undoubtedly connected to Claude in some manner.

But now Chance is public enemy #1... Claude isn't connected anymore?

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Dane: Alexei, Savannah, Stephanie/Themba, Stephanie? (nom), Rondak (nom)

- Seems to avoid AIM. Less talking, less chance of slipping up.
- When on AIM is almost always fighting. Distraction.
- PUBLIC BRIBE offered to him episode 2. WIFOM spies theory. Keep in mind that Cinnamyn's bribe wasn't made public. Why make Dane's public? So he can claim it publicly and look great.
- Vote on Rondak last round looks bad now that Magalie has flipped scum. Getting Rondak up against the senate instead of Stephanie (who he knows would not be lynched, has even said as much) would present a better chance of Magalie staying.

Not enough time to search for little quotes from him, but keep in mind his fight with Alexei. Seems legitimate to me, but it definitely could be staged.

spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=785 (start about about 20:17 on the 19th and read down)

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Kiara: Kiara, Themba, Themba/Themba, Claude? (nom), Rondak (nom)

- Pushed for Themba a lot coming in. A lot. Other suspect was someone else that I feel is a citizen and was an option to be mislynched in Stephanie.
- Trusted me with the almighty power, yet hasn't really spoken to me since. As a citizen, wouldn't you talk to someone that you trusted with a power that big more?
- Fixated on getting rid of roleholders. Voted Claude for thinking his role is scummy & and had to be talked out of voting for Allan last time.
- Random theory that was actually plausible (as stated by Cory)

After I was given the power:
(12:03:33 AM) spies8kiara: i just want it on record that if you end up being a spy i will hate you when this is all over lol!

How sincere does that read? I'll answer. Not sincere at all. Like an Isaac "wow." We've had one conversation since this where I talked about how stressed I was about having the power, which was a day after I won the power.

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Not enough time to read up thoroughly on the last two, but if I go, please look these three over & bring my points up. If I go out, I want my two cents put in.

[Owen]

Claude is a fucking idiot. So incredibly reckless and vindictive.

I'm really going to miss Tina.

[Owen]

I hate Broderick. So fucking much. So fucking much.

My conversation with him tonight was horrible. I would rather never talk to him again, but for the sake of the town winning, I'd talk to just about anyone. But Jesus. Shit is weird.

AMEN.

[Owen]

Claude is officially still an okay guy in my book, for the record. Just a fucking idiot at the moment.

Cory claimed doc to him and told him I was in on it the entire time. Hopefully that gets Claude a bit more trusting of me. I'm going to need that if I stick around.

Cory and I also tried getting Chance/Gert to claim to Claude so that once Claude wins his vote back (which he will... he's a robot) that we don't have to do it then out of desperation. We need to this group to expand right now, we need to catch spies, not worry about imprisonment. But naw, Gertrude and Chance aren't down for it at all. "We can tell Mary." Mary already knows. If Mary is a spy, the spies know. What is the harm in telling one more person (Claude) that we're more confident is town than Mary about everything? Especially when this person has a role that could completely fuck the town over.

Tina has left Cory and I with not much to work with, I'm afraid. They're coming to take us away, hahaaaaaaaaaaa.

[Owen]

You have arguably been on every single lynch wagon possible to you. Three of those involving Spies. Alexei, then you voted for Isaac and Magalie. For such a voting record, you are doing a shotty job of discussing your suspicions and thoughts. If you are a citizen, you should probably step up your game. If a spy - nice bussing.

Spy trying to discredit me or a fucking idiot? We shall see.

[Owen]

THIS CONFESSIONAL IS BROUGHT YOU BY:
"STRESS - The Story Of My Life"
COMING SOON TO THEATERS.

I'm sick, or getting sick. Not fun. Especially when I feel like I have to talk to everyone right now. Even if I wasn't sick, aside from a select few, I probably wouldn't want to talk to anyone right now. Normally if I didn't want to talk to people, I wouldn't. However, I've been trying really hard (despite what some apparently think) to help the town to a win, and avoiding people isn't going to make it easier for the town to win.

It's just that... the spies, or maybe the players, have been sucking the fun out of this. I mean this with no disrespect to you Sam, but aside from having moments where I force myself to pretend I'm having a great time so that I put in the work, I am not having fun right now. I'm not going to give up, ESPECIALLY because Tina could be here in my place right now and she wouldn't be sulking, but it would actually be relieving to be imprisoned soon. I feel like my first instincts of letting Tina keep immunity and letting me take the bullet would have been a solid choice. I know there were points where I wanted to stay, but now that I'm still here, I'm enjoying it even less than I was when Tina was still in the game.

One thing I'm missing right now is the character aspect of the game. I wish for once, I could sign online and just shoot the shit with someone and not be interrupted with constant game talk. Yes, it's a game, so talking about the game is needed, but it's also a really fucking stressful game. The laughs (and success, of course) are what makes it worth it for me and a lot of people aren't providing that. It's funny that I get accused of being boring when I feel like I'm one of the more approachable people in the game. If laid back and not obnoxious is boring, then yeah, I'm pretty fucking boring.

Another thing I feel like I'm missing are people that are thinking the same way as me. Everyone that has done so, minus Cory, is dead (Tina, Nita, Gabe). It'd terrible to say that a lot of these people suck, but I've gotten the feeling that the level of players from this season compared to last is way down. If I had to play with myself last season, while I would have been fond of my personality and such, I would have hated having to try and work with someone like me (unless I was a spy). Where are all the strong town players, other than the dead players lounge? There's people with potential, but they have been so fucking wrong. And then there's the ones that have been wrong, but still act like complete pricks and/or idiots. My lack of talking in chat is partly due to the amount of *headdesk* that is caused by it.

Let's just talk about motherlanding already, my fucking god.

Then there's the Chance/Gert situation. I trust them as citizens, but I think they're being selfish right now. Maybe it was a bit selfish of us to tell Mary, but I really don't think they realize how bad Cory and I are making ourselves look right now. Protecting them because of the role(s) is one thing, but protecting Chance when Claude's most recent case on him was actually very solid? It's making us look like shit. Who else defends citizens to make themselves look good when they're lynched and come up town? Spies. THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

In short: give Cory and I a few vig (not vag) shots or I may blow my brains out.

[Owen]

HOW OWEN DID IT:
A Summary By Judge Sam.

Owen is easily the best spy that has ever graced the series. The way that he bussed Alexei, Isaac, and Magalie will go down in history as the most legitimate busses of all time. They just seemed... so real... like... he actually thought they were spies when he voted for them. It was though he was actually a citizen and went through all the motions that a citizen would. It was incredible. Like he was actually a citizen.

Not only was Owen an elite busser, but he took a new innovative technique of eliminating all of the people that trusted him the most via imprisonment, while keeping in the people that were most suspicious of him and the ones that don't talk to him. While some may see this as impossible and completely stupid for Owen to do as a spy, Broderick and Claude were observant enough to see it for what it really was. Unfortunately for them, when they brought ideas up like these, they were shut down by a group of stupid citizens that couldn't see Owen's obvious bussing and killing of the players that trusted him the most. Impressive.

Let's get a little deeper into Owen's game:

Exile 1: After not being to get online via technical issue and knowing absolutely nothing of what has gone on that day, Owen gets online and realizes that he HAS to bus Alexei after talking to one person about him. He starts pushing him to others before a case is even posted in the Burg. Classic bussing technique. He continues to bus Alexei the rest of the round with perfection. His reaction afterwards? It was like he didn't even know that Alexei was going to be a spy.

Imprisonment 2: Owen convinces his spy partners to get rid of Gabe, someone that he thinks is a mislynch target. The need for him to get rid of someone that he is building trust in is too much though, and he demands to the other spies that his Pint Sized Brawler must die. Doctor Cory saves the day. Owen is very upset that he couldn't get rid of someone that he trusts.

Exile 2: Owen's first intentional mislynch of the game. Owen goes after Savannah in a way that seems very genuine. It was like he was bussing her, since that's the only way he's effective, but of course he technically wasn't. The reason Owen goes after Savannah is because she is the only one that his picked up his OBVIOUS bussing of Alexei.

Imprisonment 3: Gabe, who he trusts even more at this point, and who trusts Owen more as well, takes the bullet because he trusts Owen too much.

Exile 3: Owen busses Isaac with the most awesome reasoning of all time, something that will forever clear him and making him known as the best busser of all time: "gut." He then goes for his second intentional mislynch of the game, mislynching his friend Themba.

Imprisonment 4: Owen knows that it's time to take out another player that there's a mutual trust with, so of course Nita is the obvious choice. Being the kingpin mafia he is, this is completely his decision.

Exile 4: Having the only vote at this exile, Owen decides that he must bus one of his spy partners to lessen the number of spies left. Not only is he getting rid of his friends at this point, but he's getting rid of his spy partners too. Having another one of his top suspects on the block, Jenny, forces Owen into bussing one of his spy partners. I mean, what else could he have done? Other than, you know, voting out his other top suspect who (likely) isn't a spy. Owen dict over his own scum partner, ultimately trying to clear himself once again.

Imprisonment 5: Owen thinks Lilith has a shit load of crazy theories and is expendable. He, along with Lilith, come up with ways to get her imprisoned. He is relieved to see her die.

Okay, this part is actually true. Sorry Lilith <3

Exile 5: Directly after bussing Wowsaac, Owen decides that it's time to throw WIFOM spy Magalie under the bus right alongside him. The kicker? The other target, Chance, is someone that has a confirmed citizen role to him. He can't let Chance get lynched, as citizen roles are uber important for spies to keep in the game. He avoids talking about Chance because he doesn't want to link himself to him.

Imprisonment 6: With only a few people that he has mutual trust with left, Owen knows it's time to take another one of them out. How will he survive in this game with people that trust him? Owen wisely kills the most active person that trusts him, Tina. At least she found Fifi.

(Feel free to finish this after I bus the rest of my partners out of the game. Then you can use this at the finale after I'm revealed to be a spy. Damn you, Broderick & Chance.)

[Owen]

So, to appease Claude, I've read his case and summarized my thoughts on it.

Day 1:
- Defends Camilla, perhaps too much.
- I agree that it's risky to defend people, especially early. Not completely a scum-tell, but questionable.
- Not sure if the whole theory of looking good when Camilla flips town fits completely. Was it ever a sure thing that Camilla was going?
- Tina/Cory stuff is not a tell. Citizens bring up bad points and drop them after being shot down too.
- What questions were asked/dodged by Awohali?

Day 2:
- Unless Chance is a citizen and saved himself, highly unlikely a cit saved him. A spy is more likely, either to protect him or to make him look even more suspcious and to have him lynched at a later time.
- Perhaps it's how own role & he's a citizen not wanting to out it?
- What is insincere about "Chance really did not contribute much Day 2. This is partially expected, considering that I had removed his ability to vote. However, that removal did not stop him from making a case on me..nor did it stop him for talking out of the side of his mouth at Jasmine"?? If he's reckless as it's been claimed, talking out the side of his mouth seems rather fitting.
- Change of behavior with going after/defending top lynch candidates does look sketchy.

What happened to days 3 & 4? Nothing scummy?

Day 5:
- It's very possible that the spies are framing him. As a spy, if you get mislynched, you are going to want to lead trails to other players and get them mislynched. The connections are there, but from what I've seen (he went through all logs with Isaac to Cory) a few of them seem forced by the spies that have been lynched.
- I'm not sure Lilith's imprisonment had much to do with Chance. I know for a fact that Lilith was trying to masquerade as the doctor, as she was going to get busy with real life things and wanted to go out in a way that could the people she trusted information. Unfortunately, she overplayed the doctor thing way too much so we couldn't gague who would want her dead because of it.
- No arguing that his jumping into fights against people that suspect him look bad.

Day 6:
- Asking someone why they don't think someone is scummy is NOT a scumtell, it's playing the game and trying to gather information. This part seems like a reach in comparison to other things you've had. Especially when Awohali is someone that he expects. That's like you not questioning why people don't suspect Chance. What gets accomplished not knowing that?
- "[18:18] spies8chance: claude, being that i was nearly exiled in episode one and was only saved by camilla forgetting to vote, would the smart play not have been to vote for camilla there, if i were a spy? and if so, why then did i not?" looks like a bit of reaching. Agreed that he couldn't just randomly flip onto Camilla and not have it look terrible for him.
- Conversation does come off awkward.

It's a solid case, but a lot of this can be explained by Chance's role. Again, if I wasn't 99.9% sure that the masons were legit, Chance would be so fucking sketchy to me. He's really not helping himself, and with that, he's not helping us by making us go out of our way to defend him with shitty defenses.

In short, Claude needs to know about this role.

[Owen]

BUMPING THIS ABOVE MY POINTLESS METAGAMING THREAD.

DO NOT HURT ME.

[Owen]

spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=burg&thread=931&page=1#5041

Kiara trying to get the vote off of Isaac?

[Owen]

Claude has been claimed to. He's skeptical. His whole world came crashing down on him. I think he's in a catatonic state. I feel bad, but it had to be done.

Chance will likely feel the same way when he finds out this happened.

I feel like I'm going to pass out at the moment, but I just wanted to check up on it it as if I were Beyonce.

GOOD NIGHT. OR 2 HOURS BEFORE I WAKE UP, STAY UP FOR A FEW MINUTES, THEN WANT TO SLEEP AGAIN.

[Owen]

I got 12 hours of sleep. I want more. I feel like I have mono. My blood sugars are whacked out, too. 340 last night. Not good at all. If I suddenly disappear, I'm in the hospital. Unfortunately, shit like this does happen when diabetics get this sick, so as much as I'd love to avoid that (as hospitals give me panic attacks) it's a legitimate concern.

I didn't come into contact with anyone sickly, so I'm blaming this on Broderick. Look what you did. Look at your choices. Slow down, crazy. Slow down.

I think my lack of even going in chat is looking bad for me, but extra stress is the last thing I need right now. I wish I could just explain to these douchebags that I have a condition that worsens quite a bit when sick & stressed, but unfortunately, that would give me away. Fuck you, diabetes. And fuck you, Broderick, for making this game less enjoyable for quite a few players.

[Owen]

Claude has completely redeemed himself in my eyes. I feel like I was too hard on him for using his role on me. The only reason he used it was because he knew there was a connection between Chance & I, so really, it was a smart move assuming that Chance was a spy.

I'm happy I decided to not pass out and talk to him tonight. Guy is smart, just needed to be lead in the right direction. If I go, I have some hope that Claudebot can terminate these spies.

[Owen]

Not TOO confident on Kiara, but I feel a lot better about it than any of the other options currently. If she flips scum, I will be elated. If not, I'm gonna have some 'splainin to do.

Bribe tonight should be interesting. Excited. Not really, actually. Yay stress.

[Owen]

Kinda pathetic to be the first to comment on my own confessional, I know, but I laughed a lot re-reading "How Owen Did It." Best spy ever.

[Gertrude]

Sept 16, 2010 16:17:18 GMT -6 Owen said:

Kinda pathetic to be the first to comment on my own confessional, I know, but I laughed a lot re-reading "How Owen Did It." Best spy ever.

Douuuche.

[Chance]

Wow, Owen really didn't like me? Nice acting.

[Owen]

Sept 16, 2010 16:56:14 GMT -6 Chance said:

Wow, Owen really didn't like me? Nice acting.

Ahemmm.

While I'll blame everything that could possibly go long on him, I think I enjoy his company in the game the most. Sure, I love me some Tina, Gert, Chance, Stephanie, Hambone (and others) but Cory is the person I feel most comfortable sharing my thoughts to without having them used against me.

I just didn't like having to defend you when there were valid points against you. Though, after you accused me of killing Gert, I wasn't too happy with you for a round or two.

Also note my wrong/long typo. Don't worry though, I'm not trying to steal your man.

[Mary]

Jul 15, 2010 3:34:14 GMT -6 Owen said:

Unfortunately, someone other than the five of us knows about those between heaven and hell now. Mary, who had been on mine and Cory's ass (him moreso, as I've been trying to avoid her like the fucking plague) knew that something was up between myself/Chance/Cory, and that (I guess) forced Cory into getting Chance to claim to her. While it's going to be great to have someone else that will lay off of Chance, there's more layers to this onion [lover] than I've yet to see. I don't trust her, and I feel like putting her back on the senate was the biggest mistake that I've made so far... that I know of. To sum things up: Mary knows about the Masons, Chance being the Devil, there being an Angel, and most likely that Cory is the doctor (and that I knew that Cory was the doctor). She doesn't know Gertrude's involvement and that she's the Angel, but it will be extremely easy for her to figure things out based on the relationship Gertrude has with Chance.

Basically, if Mary is scum, this entire thing we've had going is going to collapse quicker than I anticipated. Quicker than a blonde on prom night, Cinnamyn on a corndog, Yuri on a lead, Jeff Francouer on balls out of the strikezone, a certain Spies alumni's boyfriend in bed, Dane to an argument, and Sam to BBUK Ben's penis the second Ben gives up the charade of being into the vag. But I completely understand why Cory did it at the time. Mary was onto us, she felt like she wasn't included, and thus was more likely to spread it. If we tell her and she's a citizen, we earn another possible ally and keep this thing going a bit longer. High risk, high reward.

If it fails, again, I'll just blame it on Cory.

I learned that Gertrude was the Angel and that they were the masons. Previously, we thought there were two additional masons lurking about in addition to the Exile and Imprisonment protectors.

This was a huge score for us. It enabled us to stop worrying about so many roled Citizens and focus on killing the spyhunters (like Tina).

[Nita]

LOL at bolding "blame it on Cory". The guy just likes claiming roles and revealing masons to Spies.

But oh, I can imagine how nice learning that information was, as a Spy.

I ROFL'ed at the "How Owen Did It" synopsis, beginning to end.

Steve, you gotta learn how to back off so the game doesn't mess with your health! Spies always messes with my head, messes with it 24/7, but if it ever interfered with my health I'd back off ASAP!

I wonder how Claude really felt during this round. He's an interesting guy for sure, but there are no confessionals! (BOOOOOOOOO)

[axman]

Sept 17, 2010 7:43:55 GMT -6 Nita said:

I wonder how Claude really felt during this round. He's an interesting guy for sure, but there are no confessionals! (BOOOOOOOOO)

I believe his response involved calling Judge Sam a "bastard mod." So, really taken as well as could be expected.

[Awohali]

Basically, if Mary is scum, this entire thing we've had going is going to collapse quicker than I anticipated. Quicker than a blonde on prom night, Cinnamyn on a corndog, Yuri on a lead, Jeff Francouer on balls out of the strikezone, a certain Spies alumni's boyfriend in bed, Dane to an argument, and Sam to BBUK Ben's penis the second Ben gives up the charade of being into the vag.

Pure awesomeness. Any post that disses Yuri AND Jeff Francoeur in the same paragraph is full of epic win!!