On Magalie

Best case ever.

Magalie, how do you plead?

But Owen has an "O" in his name so that makes him scummier.

Good catch hambOne

I think that is a very appropriate smilie for this game of mafia.

Tina, I assume this was the post that Magalie was complaining about last night, that you also said you would expound upon?

Ok but seriously. Here is some reasoning.

1) Voting history

At exile 1, Magalie votes for Gertrude for undocumented reasoning. This is later revealed to be mostly due to get people to stop bothering her, and she thought that Gert was really a cit. I am not sure if her thoughts of Claude, who was a top vote getter, had surfaced or not.

At exile 2, Magalie partied apparently after voting Margot for "either having something going on in life or being a lurking spy". Claude suspicion is at least starting to show up at this point.

Exile 3 she does not vote, but apparently suspects Claude the most from a conversation we had once merge happened.

spies8magalie (7:30:03 PM): He only suspected me after awohali suspected me
spies8magalie (7:30:50 PM): I been suspected him
spies8tina (7:31:21 PM): So he was looking for an easy vote?
spies8magalie (7:34:25 PM): Yes

So we are about 20 days into the game at this point and her only suspect is based on OMGUS. Also it is on someone with a role, and someone who is probably a citizen at this point.

At this point Magalie has no clue who she suspects. Just says that she will vote the highest vote getter who is a cit because we are all dumbasses or something like that.

I still have zero clue who Magalie thinks is a spy.

2) Lack of spy hunting.

The following is all the reason for voting I have found from Magalie

E2


E4 thread


After E4
spies8magalie (7:30:03 PM): He only suspected me after awohali suspected me
spies8magalie (7:30:50 PM): I been suspected him
spies8tina (7:31:21 PM): So he was looking for an easy vote?
spies8magalie (7:34:25 PM): Yes

Now
spies8magalie (11:56:38 PM): Im like okay Umm... I dont know what to believe Im not even sure about my suspects anymore

3) Others Findings

By Cinnamon
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4) Things that make me go *twitch*

Mary has a few decent things
spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=772

spies8magalie (12:03:33 AM): the whole time I was in this game I wanted to look like a spy to ward off the imprisonments so now my strategy is coming back to bite me in the ass

spies8magalie (12:06:10 AM): Tina
spies8magalie (12:06:18 AM): If anything happens to you
spies8magalie (12:06:36 AM): I didnt do it because Im not a spy

You do realize Savanny is dead right?

As much as this is a despicable action on Magalie's part, and I think Sam should just modkill her for it, it is very unlikely that this is some super clever spy move. She is just being spiteful town.

Yes Allan, we worked that out.

And it didn't come today, because Owen received said message today.

So unless people think that Magalie is faking this whole thing(which is possible, but so absurdly unlikely), the conclusion has to be that she is town.

I think Sam should modkill her, or something, but I do NOT think that the correct way to resolve this is for the town to lynch her. It's not the town's job to punish these kind of play violations.

I can't see that revealing the contents of a secret spy message is in anyway against the rules. It didn't seem to be against the rules when Allan did it.

I have not been privvy to all of the secret spy messages, but it sure seems like there are a lot of them floating about. It would not surprise me if Magalie's was a last ditch effort invented by Mags and her spy-buddies. If Mags is a cit and received this message, it seems like a more reasonable approach would have been to talk to the senate voters privately and tell them about it. (Did I just use reasonable and Mags in the same sentence?)

I appreciated Owen's explanation of his Mags vote in the nominations thread. I encourage the rest of the senate to do likewise.

What Magalie did is incredibly unsporting, and she should face some kind of consequence for it. Whether or not the message was legitimate doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter that it's not against 'the rules' in technicality. It is against the spirit of the game.

It's also not indicative of her being a Spy. It is just the opposite. The notion that this is some well-conceived plan is just ridiculous. She got mad that she is being lynched(especially considering that Tina nominated her), and acted childishly 'in revenge'. When she says 'if I'm going down I'm going down with my team', she can only be referring to trying to make the Citizens lose.

I'm sure she's going to get lynched anyway, for a bunch of reasons that essentially boil down to 'on principle'. This is not a valid reason to lynch someone. It is almost always just going to be 'Free kill for the Spies'.

I had one semi-lucid conversation with Magalie. FWIW, now that she's known spy, she told me:

(12:44:08 AM) spies8magalie: these days I been trying to get more dirt on Claude because I honestly think hes the spy that holds all the other spies together
(12:49:34 AM) spies8magalie: and lilith
(12:52:29 AM) spies8magalie: Not that she only made it known that she sided with him but used him as an excuse to get chance out. Nothing about chance is spyish but more of a whiny girl but other then that I really dont think we have anything to worry about chance.