Vote Tallies E3

My vote will be on one of the following, unless something huge should happen:

Magalie - She is absolutely unhelpful to our team. She never is online very long, she has yet to give solid reasoning for suspicions. When she does give reasoning for suspicion, they are usually either completely senseless or copied from someone else. She has not, to my knowledge, questioned people to ascertain better suspicions.

She is also directly detrimental to our team. Last night, she missed the first challenge after saying she would reboot her computer right before it began. 2 hours later, she said she had just finished rebooting.
But what was truly harmful, was during the final challenge, in which she received her assignment on what to work on, and then logged off without doing anything. Because she had been given an assignment, those 5 flags were presumably being worked on already, so we did not have anyone else paying focus to them. That very well could have cost us the challenge victory.

She is suspicious in the way that she behaves, but primarily, I see her as dead weight who has demonstrated that she will not improve her game play as the game advances. The longer she is around, the more detrimental she becomes.


Jenny - Jenny behaved very oddly concerning role claiming for Allan in the last episode. She role claimed with an hour left at a time in which Allan did not even have the most votes, while citing the unknown votes, 3/5 of which were Allan himself, herself, and the other person that knew Allan had a role already.

She also apparently miscounted the votes, took Savannah's word for who was voting for who rather than checking for herself. I find this all to be very odd indeed.
She has also done helpful things, and is active and reasonable. Time will tell if that is enough reason to overturn the very odd events of last episode.


Claude - Claude has been very forceful in how he tries to push his suspects to be the ones voted out by means other than just a good case. He will say "I am certain, and if I'm wrong, you may Exile me next.". When he is then wrong, he role claims at the beginning of round 2, which seems like something a Citizen would have absolutely no need to do so early in an episode, before even testing the waters to see who would join a case against him. (Savannah and Allan being two examples of people with roles that did not claim them absurdly early, even under fire)

He has tried to assert that either himself or Chance must go, and it is seeming that he will be turning every one of his suspects into a "me or them" mentality, since he has done so with Camilla and Chance already.

The final reason I am considering voting Claude, is the inconsistency in his words regarding how he made his claim.

First, when I questioned why he made it so early, he said that it was a logical, calculated decision. Later, he admitted that he was in an emotional state when he did it, which also against his words of the first episode in which he talked about he citizens should never be emotional for any reason and that he did not play with emotion in these games.





I am currently undecided, but I plan to vote for one of those three.

I usually prefer to discuss my suspicions with people on AIM, but since this vote is going to come down to the Republicans in the end, and we can't talk with them personally to debate suspicions with, I'll go ahead and post my thoughts here so they can see it.

Currently I am planning on voting Maggie, because I've yet to see her do much of anything at all since coming to this team. And what little I have gotten to see hasn't helped make things better either.

When I asked several original democrats about Maggie, everyone had the same thing to say of her. That she was almost never on, and that if you disagreed with her on something, she'd try to bite your head off rather then talk about it. I originally thought that was just people overexaggerating and wanting to vent a little bit to someone that was wililng to listen.

And then days pass before I even see her. First I hear about her is Spice telling me that Maggie just told her Stephi-kins was her top suspect. And then when told that Stephi wasn't on the same team, goes on a small rant about "Why did Ni-Ni bring it up in the first place then?"

The first time I actually really saw her was yesterday. She apologized about missing the challenge on Monday saying things had come up that she wasn't expecting, and was surprised to hear there was more to the challenge in just an hour or so.

A few minutes into the first challenge with the spies players math problem, she says she has to reboot her computer. 2 hours later we've somehow managed to figure out the map coordinates enough to finish the leg, and she comes back on. And then when the final leg starts, she leaves 5 minutes into it again, and I don't recall seeing her for the rest of the night.

In between the two legs, we have a short chat where she asks me about why Ni-Ni was saying that Maggie talked to me about Stephi, and I explain the misunderstanding there. So far that's the only real chat we've had since opening day.

Maybe she's having the ultimate bad luck with life keeping her from the game right now, but we're almost two weeks into the game now, and nobody seems to be noticing her doing much of anything at all in the game.

The other thing that comes to mind for me, although I should make a disclaimer that this is a bit more hypothetical then the rest, and might mean nothing after all. With this ultimate power reward from the challenge, it's possible that the spies wanted to make sure the side that had more spies players on the team won the challenge to give them a better shot at getting the power, along with possibly making one or both of the imprisonment protections worthless. A lot of people in the democrats right now get the feeling that the spies are in control of the Republican vote in general, and if the spies felt the same way, it's possible that Maggie was purposely showing up just enough to not get penalized and then vanish to help make sure the "right" side won.

I ain't agreein with that Awohali. I said we got no way of knowin.


[23:09] spies8claude: I think it is very likely that their side has 4+ spies.
[23:09] spies8cinnamyn: i wud have 2, but it wud cum secund 2 my team
[23:09] spies8jenny: I'd want to look at both so that we'd have an informed decision.
[23:09] spies8Nita: Claude we got no way of knowin that


[23:32] spies8claude: I feel like Spies were in control of the repubs yesterday.
[23:32] spies8claude: And still are.
[23:32] spies8Nita: Claude, we ain't got no way of knowin what's even goin on there
[23:33] spies8Nita: Why you sayin that? Also you gettin us off topic

I basically 110% agree with everything Awohali is saying. I still haven't even really met Chance or Magalie. And you can add Jenny to the list because of my case on her and the Allan roleclaim she did. And throw in Claude as well. Basically, what Awohali said. Me and him discussed this a couple days ago, and we have very similar thoughts on our suspects.

(Note: sorry I haven't been online lately... Lots of work, but I should be at exile whenever that is, anddd maybe online late late tonight possibly)

I think I'll prolly be voting for Chance or Claude this time. Might as well see the alignment of one.

This gonna be controversial but I decide my vote y I'm stickin to it. I'm votin no exile. Normally this ain't my thing but this be a special case y I splain why.

Two nights ago we Democrats talk in the chat bout who we gonna nominate. Before that talk I thinkin bout nominatin Magalie. Magalie, she lyin y she contradictin y she lazy. All the good reasons detailed above by Awohali y Jenny y Cinnamyn. She also gonna be a huge distraction all game cause so long as she here she gonna be the easy option.

But there a problem:

spies8jasmine (22:54:16): I feel like Sam gave us to much shti to do, im so pissed. -_-
spies8jasmine (22:54:37): ultimate power vote, three peoples names for immunity, exile vote, list in case we dont make it to the live exile and cant vote between those two picks

These Republicans, they winnin y complainin bout it! Too much work? Too bad. Great power, great responsibility, you know how that go.

So while I thinkin Magalie the best option I no can make nobody do nothin. I read the public chat from last night y just 1.5 people expressin any opinion on Magalie at all, despite 3 posts from Democrats clearly spellin out why she suspicious:

Jasmine say she ain't gonna exile Magalie

spies8jasmine (22:58:37): The more I look at it though, the more it looks to be Magalie
spies8jasmine (22:58:41): and if Magalie is the one up there
spies8jasmine (22:58:45): I think it's going to be BS to exile her.
spies8jasmine (22:58:57): deranged citizen, is wat she screams out to be..for me anyways.
spies8jasmine (22:59:8): she wasnt around
spies8jasmine (22:59:16): but when she was, she was yelling
spies8jasmine (22:59:19): always in character
spies8jasmine (22:59:24): i think she was just citizen, bored as hell

(BTW Jasmine I think what you say es dumb - wit all these people to meet y things to do how anyone be bored? You makin excuses for her?)

Tina say Lawrence interested in exilin Magalie. How true es this? I no know because Lawrence no there to say "si" o "no". But the Republicans suspect him, so nobody care bout what he think anyway:

spies8stephanie (10:51:38 PM): i only talked to larry for like 2 minutes
spies8stephanie (10:51:49 PM): and i immediately thought he was spy
spies8tina (10:52:06 PM): He is odd.
spies8tina (10:52:17 PM): Suspicions are canned and just the popular ones.
spies8tina (10:52:31 PM): Apparently he is very interested in exiling Magalie though.

The Republicans ain't payin attention to what the case es on Magalie, so they ain't gonna make a good decision on her. I'm guessin this applies to everyone else the Democrats thinkin of nominatin (Chance, Claude, Jenny) because I no see major discussion from the Republicans on them either.

So what be the point of givin the Republicans a votin target they know nothin bout y don't care enough to learn? I think it only give people a lazy option. So I votin no exile because if we no provide an alternative the Republicans gotta focus on what's en front of them wit no distractions.

Here's the best description I've seen of tonight's process:

I am trying to reach Sam to find out how much time the Republicans will have to decide at live Exile, and whether there will be a formal process for making and comparing cases and whether there will be time provided.

Since Sam says "immediately", I think it's best to assume the Republicans will have no additional time to prepare, and that we will need to make our cases strong and brief for the Republicans to review in the few moments Sam gives them to decide.

"FOS", anyone?

Nita, what are you doing talking to Jasmine?

(or is that from a chat log of the other tribes?)

EDIT: going to work now, bbl

Es from their chat log Hambone.

i think i'm nominating mags at this point. could go for rondak, but i don't think that will make much difference.