Themba's space.

[Themba]

That is all.

Nina would so love this.

[Themba]

Ok, here's my thoughts for everyone in Team Republican.

~ BRODERICK ~

- When you first came over to the Republicans, you seemed to throw Jasmine to us as a possible target for an Exile vote... And to a lesser extent Lawrence. Today however, you defended Lawrence in the group chat and said that he was an easy target. Could you explain how / why your thoughts changed on him? Also do you think Jasmine is still a possible Spy?
- Stephanie accused and held onto her accusation of Dane for the end half of Episode One. Does that make her suspicious in your eyes? Why/why not?


~ JASMINE ~

- To be honest you seem a little lazy (i.e. not bothering to read posts) but at least you're upfront about it. My concern is though, if you're here at the end game, pretty much all we have to rely on is reading and re-reading old posts, threads and conversations. Do you think you will be able to be bothered doing that?
- You said it's pointless to read Claude's thread and do anything about him at that point - same with Chance as he couldn't be exiled in Episode Two. What would stop you from just posting your thoughts on them anyway? If you've got some good ideas and information, but then you get Exiled/Imprisoned, wouldn't it possibly be detrimental to the Cits to not share your thoughts?
- Stephanie accused and held onto her accusation of Dane for the end half of Episode One. Does that make her suspicious in your eyes? Why/why not?
- You said in your accusatory thread on Isaac that 'a spy would fight a hell of a lot more to stay then just roll over and give up'. Yet Alexei did just that. I am pretty sure you posted this thread AFTER the Alexei exile... Could you explain that? Or did you just not read the stuff on Alexei?


~ LAWRENCE ~

- Are you afraid of AIM?
- I like some of what you've picked up on through the chat threads and forum posts, however it still concerns me that you don't speak with many people directly. AIM is good in that it's instant - your responses can't be carefully thought about. And I am worried you're avoiding using it for some reason. Even today, whilst you did post that thread, you didn't log in and say hi to us.
- Your 'common targets' comment also concerns me. I don't think just because several people think that a person is a Spy, means that you should be investing all of your time looking for evidence which simply is not there. I may be talking about myself here of course, but this applies accross the board.


~ LILITH ~

- Easy one straight up: Are you a Cit or a Spy?
- You seem fascinated with the previous episodes' votes from the Republicans, moreso than the voting from the Democrats. Whilst we are a fascinating lot, the Democrats did actually exile 2 citizens...
- You have mentioned Zed twice in the group chats that I've seen - do you think he's a Spy? Is that because Savannah was so pushing for his Exile Episode One?


~ ISAAC ~

- Do you still FoS Jasmine as a Spy? Why/why not?
- When you said this to Margot: 'Everyone trusts no one so far...' what did you mean? Was Margot suspicious of you?
- You seem to use LOL a lot... Alexei did when he got nervous too... Are you a Spy?


~ KIARA ~

- You are the greatest mystery to me right now. You voted for me at last Exile. It was a quick but concise reasoning, yet I get the impression someone may have been in your ear about me. Care to share?
- What are your thoughts on me now?
- You seem to be one who does hang back a little in the chats, at least when I am around. Yet you were very active for the majority of the Challenge yesterday. Unsure as to whether you just watch what's happening, or if you're still catching up... Feel free to fill me in, as we haven't spoken one on one since you replaced Kiara #1.


~ ZEDEKIAH ~

- Will your SpyBuddies edit your responses to me this time too?
- You voted for me at last Exile. Your thoughts were flawed but there, so that's good. Are you planning on voting for me next Exile? If so, why?
- Who else are you suspicious of? Have you addressed these people directly?


~ STEPHANIE ~

- You and I fended off a possible Exiling last Episode. How do you feel about that and have you addressed the people who did vote for you? Are you aware of those who would have switched to you if Savannah had claimed?
- How's your Dane case coming along?
- Why did you leave the group chat just before when Dane was grilling you?


~ DANE ~

- Um. Do something. Explain why you're not doing anything. You can't just get a Spy to rollover Episode One and think it's ok to spend the rest of the game at MacDonalds chasing schoolgirls. Where are you?
- I get the feeling you may well have voted for me had you known Savannah had a role. If this is the case please confirm and explain. If it's not, please tell me who you would have switched to and why.
- Why would the Spies offer you a bribe?


~ TINA ~

- You pretty much slipped under the radar for your Zedekiah switch at the very last minute. I took the majority of the heat, yet my vote change was posted and yours was not. Do you think the majority of people just let it go because you originally helped with the Alexei case?
- Do you think it's odd that people would try and exile me for doing the same thing you did, but with clearer communication about it?
- You posted some good thoughts about Lawrence, then stated you'd be voting for him this coming Exile. He's now made his thread, and you've taken your vote off him. Can you explain what in particular about his thread has made you change your mind?


~ OWEN ~

- You were very chilled for the first episode, and suddenly became a little defensive in the group chats when Stephanie said she was slightly suspicious of you. Why?
- You were sure either Nita, Tina or yourself would be imprisoned, both the first round and the second - to be honest I think you provided a simple, logical reason why Alexei could be a spy, but the majority of the case was made by The Anagrams, and then Dane pushing the point home towards the end of the Episode. Why would the Spies imprison you?

[Jasmine]

- To be honest you seem a little lazy (i.e. not bothering to read posts) but at least you're upfront about it. My concern is though, if you're here at the end game, pretty much all we have to rely on is reading and re-reading old posts, threads and conversations. Do you think you will be able to be bothered doing that?
- You said it's pointless to read Claude's thread and do anything about him at that point - same with Chance as he couldn't be exiled in Episode Two. What would stop you from just posting your thoughts on them anyway? If you've got some good ideas and information, but then you get Exiled/Imprisoned, wouldn't it possibly be detrimental to the Cits to not share your thoughts?

I feel like these can be summed up pretty much together. I would read past conversations, and thoughts players had if I made it to the end. I do that currently as well. I think I;ve restated my point on this subject many times in the past. It hasn't changed. I don't think there is anything wrong with Chance posting his Claude thoughts. However, I didn't give a fuck to stop my thought process of the current exile vote to read it at that point..or comment on it. There much more going on that needed to be discussed, not Claude..who wasn't going to be exiled at that time.


- Stephanie accused and held onto her accusation of Dane for the end half of Episode One. Does that make her suspicious in your eyes? Why/why not?

Well, from what I gathered today..this statement isn't even true? Tina told me that she would have voted for Zed if she was online before the exile votes were revealed. And she confirmed this as well. Due to the HQ comment he made? So, now I'm a bit confused.


- You said in your accusatory thread on Isaac that 'a spy would fight a hell of a lot more to stay then just roll over and give up'. Yet Alexei did just that. I am pretty sure you posted this thread AFTER the Alexei exile... Could you explain that? Or did you just not read the stuff on Alexei?

And no, I didn't pay attention to the republicans when on the democrats. Not many of the democrats did..from my understanding. So before or after Alexei left, my thoughts on it didn't change..I didn't know Alexei or anything on him till coming over here and mixing with you guys.

[Tina]

themba said:

- You pretty much slipped under the radar for your Zedekiah switch at the very last minute. I took the majority of the heat, yet my vote change was posted and yours was not. Do you think the majority of people just let it go because you originally helped with the Alexei case?

I think that is a big part yes. Also I did post my reasoning for the change in the public chat. I can go and quote that for you if you want me to.

- Do you think it's odd that people would try and exile me for doing the same thing you did, but with clearer communication about it?

Not as odd as you think it is I am sure. The events both of us took leading up to the exile was very different, and that is a key difference between the two of us.

- You posted some good thoughts about Lawrence, then stated you'd be voting for him this coming Exile. He's now made his thread, and you've taken your vote off him. Can you explain what in particular about his thread has made you change your mind?

I like his responses. They make sense as someone who seems to prefer a posting version of the game. He also raises a few valid points in his post. Combine that with the feeling that almost everyone is just jumping on him as an exile of someone who is not around a whole lot to defend themselves, I do not like it anymore.

[Owen]

You know I've been waiting for questions. *blushes again*

- You were very chilled for the first episode, and suddenly became a little defensive in the group chats when Stephanie said she was slightly suspicious of you. Why?

I don't know if I'd describe myself as "very chilled" for the first episode, but I guess comparatively, I am one of the more relaxed people in the group.

Stephanie's reasons for suspecting me were because I said that it was never a sure thing that Alexei was going to be exiled. For anyone who has played Spies before, you know that votes can always change up at the last minute, ESPECIALLY in early exiles. The first example that comes to my head is Spies 7 Perry/Marcus. The fact that she was was suspecting me because I wasn't naive enough to think that things couldn't change up is what caused me to get "a little defensive." It was the reasoning and lack of logic that bothered me, not the suspicion.

Though, I can admittedly get over-defensive, as we've discussed with each other.

- You were sure either Nita, Tina or yourself would be imprisoned, both the first round and the second - to be honest I think you provided a simple, logical reason why Alexei could be a spy, but the majority of the case was made by The Anagrams, and then Dane pushing the point home towards the end of the Episode. Why would the Spies imprison you?

To me, Nita was an obvious choice for the doctor to save. If the Spies had the same feeling, they would go for someone that also contributed on the case against Alexei and stuck to it. Tina, as you know, didn't stick to that. That left myself and Nita. Which one of us is more likely to be protected? Nita. Makes sense.

There are other things that I think could have worked against me, too. I was completely left out of Zeddy's post. The other people left out of it were inactives. Then there's the whole "Owen?! Really?!" comments when I received a vote from Allan. I think a lot of it had to do with it being an un-announced vote, but it also seemed like people were legitimately surprised that he voted me.

The Spies have the objective to eliminate citizens and they have a few ways to do that, but mainly it's getting someone mislynched or imprisoning them. Hard to believe that things like this (stuff mentioned above) make the Spies think "oh, lets get Owen mislynched." You yourself said that you thought it could have been me, and I even think you announced as such in the chat.

Anything else, you know my number, girl.

[Stephanie]

Jun 30, 2010 23:50:02 GMT -6 Themba said:

~ STEPHANIE ~

- You and I fended off a possible Exiling last Episode. How do you feel about that and have you addressed the people who did vote for you? Are you aware of those who would have switched to you if Savannah had claimed?
- How's your Dane case coming along?
- Why did you leave the group chat just before when Dane was grilling you?

Have I addrssed the people who did vote for me? No, Jenny is on other team, and Savannah is gone.
No one has said to me that they would have voted for me if Savannah had claimed. So no I am not aware. The team, I suspect, would have been in a total state of chaos if our two top suspects, Allan and Savannah, had both claimed. So who knows?
Dane case? I thought you knew I mostly gave up on that, or at least put it on hold, after the Alexei flip.
Dane has never grilled me. I left the chat where Broderick was not grilling me, but asking me the same question over and over again when I had already answered it. And then he started yelling at me in large font type. I didn't feel the need to stick around for it.

[Themba]

I did mean Brod, not Dane - thanks Steph.

And every one for their answers thus far

[Themba]

Well, from what I gathered today..this statement isn't even true? Tina told me that she would have voted for Zed if she was online before the exile votes were revealed. And she confirmed this as well. Due to the HQ comment he made? So, now I'm a bit confused.

Yup it is true - she still voted for Dane to the end of the Episode. Shoulda/coulda/woulda's aside, I'd like your thoughts on her picking her preferred Spy at the time, and sticking to it. I ask this because you were originally suspicious of some people back in the Democrats, but you didn't end up voting for them because you didn't think anyone would vote with you. From what I've read anyway.

[Isaac]

Jun 30, 2010 23:50:02 GMT -6 Themba said:

~ ISAAC ~

- Do you still FoS Jasmine as a Spy? Why/why not?
- When you said this to Margot: 'Everyone trusts no one so far...' what did you mean? Was Margot suspicious of you?
- You seem to use LOL a lot... Alexei did when he got nervous too... Are you a Spy?

Wow, took me awhile to realize this was a thread with something important in it . Anyway let me break down the questions and answer them:

1) The point of my entire thread on Jasmine was to put the facts out there for later reference in case I was imprisoned that night. No where is there did I vote or really FOS here as a spy. I think her actions warranted some closer looks by others which was truly the purpose of the post. Do I think she's a spy? Well I don't think there is enough evidence either way, which was the purpose of the post.

2) Margot was clearly nervous and tried too hard with her arguments and comments because she assumed we were all going to lynch her. She was uncomfortable with this game style as she'd supposedly never played it before and I was just trying to convey that we are all in the same boat and that none of us really know whats going of or who to trust. As for was she suspicious of me, well I have no idea.

3) I'm just generally in a good mood which is why I use it and I love games like this. And no, I'm not.

Think that was all the questions, let me know otherwise and I'll clear them up.

[Dane]

Themba, please stop asking questions I already addressed and answered.
- Um. Do something. Explain why you're not doing anything. You can't just get a Spy to rollover Episode One and think it's ok to spend the rest of the game at MacDonalds chasing schoolgirls. Where are you?

I already told you that Sunday and most of monday I was out on personal matters, and since we couldn't post on the board over the weekend and I didn't have easy internet access sunday and monday, I wasn't able to post. You already know this. Since I got back, I participated in the challenge, went into a long discussion on why claude's role is probably that of a spy, got into a heated argument with newlilith over her "scumhunting methods" explained to people my suspects and why my reasons for suspecting them hadn't changed since last episode, and basically tried to play catchup. So screw you.

- I get the feeling you may well have voted for me had you known Savannah had a role. If this is the case please confirm and explain. If it's not, please tell me who you would have switched to and why.

Again, I already told you my answer to this, that I suspect both you and stephanie, but stephanie more so than you. I would have voted her. The reasons she gave for her votes, the way she pushed unreasonably hard that there had to be bussers on the alexei wagon and we should only be looking there, the way she refused to vote alexei despite thinking he was an obvious spy simply because he was supporting her vote. All these reasons I've already addressed.


- Why would the Spies offer you a bribe?

Hey look, another question that I answered; this one i answered in two separate group chats (you were in both). I Don't Know. It could be because they didn't want me to vote one of my suspects (aka you and stephanie), thought I would be more willing to give up my vote since I'd been gone most of the episode, wanted to frame you or stephanie, wanted to frame me, or any other reasons. There is no way to know at this point.

[Broderick]

- When you first came over to the Republicans, you seemed to throw Jasmine to us as a possible target for an Exile vote... And to a lesser extent Lawrence. Today however, you defended Lawrence in the group chat and said that he was an easy target. Could you explain how / why your thoughts changed on him? Also do you think Jasmine is still a possible Spy?

I don't feel that I threw anyone as a possible exile target. People asked me what my opinions were of my fellow exDemocrats, so I told them.

I suppose it could be looked at that I was defending Lawrence. I was trying to ascertain who of his suspecters had actually sought him out to discuss with and question him. I am not in the business of voting for someone off of second hand knowledge with out at least attempting to verify that it is valid. I still think he is suspicious because of his practice of seemingly finding his suspects out of those who have seen the limelight. I now understand how he gets them, because he scumhunts through chat logs first. Obviously someone will say it first. Do I think it is a productive means of finding scum? No, because he waits until the end to actually discuss with people, and then he misses out on the current activities. I told him this, and asked him similar questions.

I feel that he is an easy target, because I believe almost every one on our team has mentioned him in some manner of suspicion. If he were on AIM and had a larger more active presence in the day to day, I doubt he would be such a large topic of conversation. Because he is not here to defend himself, unless in thread posts - he is an easy target.

I do still think Jasmine is a possible spy.

- Stephanie accused and held onto her accusation of Dane for the end half of Episode One. Does that make her suspicious in your eyes? Why/why not?

To me it looked like she 'accused' him later during the day before Exile, though hard to tell with not knowing what timezone the timestamps are from. I believe she admitted that there were a bunch of reasons that Zedekiah was suspicious, and had she been around for the Exile chat, she would of switched to him over his HQ comment. I don't call that holding on to her Dane suspicions. Factually she did, since she couldn't be around to make the switch she said she probably would of done. I didn't see that her suspicions on Dane developed or moved passed the argument that he was paying more attention to the Democrats than his own Republican team. Nor did I see that she asked Dane about his suspicions or anything else, it looked to me that she focused on one bit and that was it. I would expect someone to try and further their understanding of the player they suspect and are going to vote for.

Which brings me to, why doesn't Stephanie suspect Lilith for having issues with keeping the Republicans and Democrats straight. Or is that a completely different issue?

[Jasmine]

Yup it is true - she still voted for Dane to the end of the Episode. Shoulda/coulda/woulda's aside, I'd like your thoughts on her picking her preferred Spy at the time, and sticking to it. I ask this because you were originally suspicious of some people back in the Democrats, but you didn't end up voting for them because you didn't think anyone would vote with you. From what I've read anyway.

I don't even think you know what you are asking. The thing is, Stephanie stated that she would have swapped her vote to Zed if she was online before the exile voting was due. Therefore her choice would not have been Dane at all--but Zed? So i don't get how she stuck to that at all? Or what your asking? If your asking my thought on Dane getting a vote from Stephanie, I also talked to Steph about Dane not even being her suspect anymore because Alexei ended up being a spy.

And I voted Margot over Isaac, once again, because nobody would discuss Isaac..and I wasn't going to rashly vote the guy out, if I was truly the only one suspecting him..it was too soon if that was the case, for me anyways.

I feel like your kicking a dead horse. You need some new questions, gurl.

[Kiara]

- You are the greatest mystery to me right now. You voted for me at last Exile. It was a quick but concise reasoning, yet I get the impression someone may have been in your ear about me. Care to share?

no one was in my ear. at least not that i consciously realized. here is what i saw of you from the first round that made me suspicious

first you cast what looks like a spite vote against dane. you say your reason are that hes lynching someone for no other reason than generating a discussion topic, but your lynching them for participation in the discussion. you also say he make no attempts to scumhunt any further than that. but i dont see much else from you around that time either

next you switch to alexei. the bit you post as your reason doesnt make much sense to me, and then you add that theres the stuff the rest of the guys posted and it doesnt need to add. comes off as wagon jumping to me

when alexei came to the realization that he was doomed and gave his little fairwell speech, you were the one that said it looked as if he was admitting being a spy. i really dont get that impression, even now knowing that he was in fact a spy. i kind of get the impression that you were just trying to stamp your seal on the exile so that when he did flip spy you could use that as you leading the exile instead of following it

then you flip your vote to zedekiah at the last minute. and at first im assuming that you just posted you were voting him with no reasons, because of the comment nita made. if thats the case its really hypocritical because you said danes vote for you screams of attempting a bandwagon because it has no detail, just forcefulness which is what im guessing you did. oh and he was the first to say hes voting for you so how is that bandwagoning?

when you finally do add your reasons they all seem real flimsy to me. the only one that has any real merit is the hq one. but your switching your vote from someone who you think admitted being a spy to someone who may or may not have made a slip? your here to kill spies, if you arent one. you know a spy, you vote them. period. you later on tried to backpedal and say 'oh well who knows if he actual was giving up or not' and that you were 45/55 on the two of them, but your actions dont match up with that for me. also did you ever stop to think that maybe zed is lying about being do because he doesnt want the spies to think hes some great veteran and metagame kill him?

it looked more to me that you were using savannahs (who we know is a cit) aggression to switch your vote. that way if alexei is saved and later turns out to be a spy savannah could be implicated for making the final push to try and change the vote. if memory serves it ended up being 6-4, one more person forces a tie.

- What are your thoughts on me now?

since then not much has changed. your arguments are mostly aggression or fluff. for example when hambone posted stuff against you say well what thoughts have you had until now as if simply because this is his first big post its automatically invalid because he hasnt been screaming out his every thought to date. you accuse him of trying to rally a mob against you but he also posted a case against jenny in the same thread and would have posted one against zed but got cut off by the imprisonment story and derailed by you.

your reasons for you not being a spy in the episode 2 voting thread are all weak. #1 is that you a citizen (that id call fail logic) #2 is that you have nothing to hide, but would we know? none of us are mindreaders, so again its at your word. #3 is 'a spy wouldnt do that' which is also fail logic because then a spy would do what a spy wouldnt do just to say that if they were a spy they wouldnt do that. #4 is that zed could be a spy, which is true about everyone! so in none of your arguements for your defense do you post anything of substance.

then in your voting for savannah you say she seems wishy-washy on her own reasons for suspecting people, yet claims I'm suspicious for the same thing. thats literally the pot calling the kettle black, because no your doing the exact same thing! and you pretty much have been. have we already forgotten the alexie/zed 45/55/45 mess? you say she started to lead votes on stephanie, which seems somewhat out of nowhere. but she said in her initial post that steph was someone she might vote for and then went on the explain in detail why she was casting such a vote. then you say she jumped on allan and you when she smelled blood? umm, a lot of people were on allan until the claim and she didnt vote for you, even though you would have been the easier wagon so idk what your trying to say here.

- You seem to be one who does hang back a little in the chats, at least when I am around. Yet you were very active for the majority of the Challenge yesterday. Unsure as to whether you just watch what's happening, or if you're still catching up... Feel free to fill me in, as we haven't spoken one on one since you replaced Kiara #1.

thats because in the challenge i had something to occupy myself with. i just said 'i got number 5' and went and did number 5. when if finished it i tried organizing what else needed to be done. it was easy because it was concrete. the large group chats i get lost in. you have several people talking at once in multiple different conversations most of who have large personalities. i end up reading more then talking, then get distracted with something else and dont pay attention to the chat. i try and read up on what i missed best i can. but i much rather perfer talking to people one on one. as for why we havent talked, thats mostly just poor timing. i think the only time ive really seen you one was when we were working on the challenge

[Themba]

Thanks Dane, I needed those questions re-addressed because I did in fact lose my AIM's with you, Brod and I. So thank you for taking the time to re-write it, whingeing aside.

Jasmine, it's a really simple question. Let me try one more time:
Stephanie voted someone by herself, without the 'approval' or support of anyone else from the Republicans at the time (Alexei jumped on later). Do you think that this move makes her more or less of a Spy? I ask you this because you decided not to vote one of your suspicions for essentially this same reason, and you also seemed to be curious of Steph in the first grilling of her yesterday in the group chat with Broderick. I hope that simplifies my line of thought for you.

Lilith, it's up to you to decide what questions are or are not pointless? I am entitled to the right to ask you whatever I like. It does not mean that I have not listened to you, though we haven't really spoken about much apart from me privately. I am curious as to why you're so interested in the Republicans, yet not so much in the old Democrats. I asked you straight up whether you're a Spy or not because you seem to play 'confused' a lot in the chats when I've been present, so it's a joke on that.

Kiara - as I said to Lilith yesterday, I am not re-addressing these concerns again. Same goes for you Tina. I argue your logic is flawed, as you will see after the Exile when I do flip Citizen. No Spy I've ever seen put this much detail into explaining their actions and their reasonings behind them - whether or not you think they're valid is not actually all that relevant. I hope all of those who are thinking of voting me will reconsider, however I won't be online on AIM to discuss this with any of you one on one.

[Kiara]

Jul 1, 2010 17:19:27 GMT -6 Themba said:

Kiara - as I said to Lilith yesterday, I am not re-addressing these concerns again.

Jun 23, 2010 21:44:10 GMT -6 Themba said:

Reasons why Themba is not a Spy:

2) Because everything she has thought, every action she has taken, has been laid out clearly for all to see. She has nothing to hide.

its nice to know that everything you think and do is out in the open, especially considering lilith and i are replacements and werent really around for that. <3

[Themba]

So new you haven't had time to read spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=gop&action=display&thread=426

?

You weren't really around, yet you voted for me last and Episode and are again this Episode, without reading it? Interesting.

[Lilith]

I am entitled to the right to ask you whatever I like. It does not mean that I have not listened to you, though we haven't really spoken about much apart from me privately. I am curious as to why you're so interested in the Republicans, yet not so much in the old Democrats.

I do think you're entitled to ask questions, but if you are a citizen, why ask a pointless question?

We have talked for a short bit one-on-one, and in that short bit, I had informed you that I didn't think Zed was mafia after reading how Alexei and him interacted. Part of the reason I don't feel like you are listenting to me.

Also, this "I am focusing on old Republican votes" is a misrepresentation of me and makes me feel as if you weren't listening to me. I told you in the conversation that I am lookng about how you talk about your suspcions, I think it was even clear from the conversation that I didn't know who you had voted for, I was just curious as to your reasons.

When I've talked to democrats, I've asked them about their suspscions and some about their previous votes and reasons. When I've talked to the republicans, the same.

[Kiara]

your twisting my words. did i ever actually ask you a single question here? no. your the one who said 'im not talking about it' instead of saying 'i already addressed it heres the link'. also, i never said i didnt read that, or didnt know your stance on things. i would just figure someone would be more willing to explain things to the newer people. besides, you said my vote for you last round was quick but concise reasoning so dont start calling foul now

[Themba]

I am not going to argue with you Kiara, I am not interested in that. I wish you'd chosen to discuss this with me privately. Good luck next round.

[Lawrence]

Jun 30, 2010 23:50:02 GMT -6 Themba said:

~ LAWRENCE ~

- Are you afraid of AIM?
- I like some of what you've picked up on through the chat threads and forum posts, however it still concerns me that you don't speak with many people directly. AIM is good in that it's instant - your responses can't be carefully thought about. And I am worried you're avoiding using it for some reason. Even today, whilst you did post that thread, you didn't log in and say hi to us.
- Your 'common targets' comment also concerns me. I don't think just because several people think that a person is a Spy, means that you should be investing all of your time looking for evidence which simply is not there. I may be talking about myself here of course, but this applies accross the board.

No, I am not afraid of AIM. But in general I only get to spend a couple hours a day there. I am completely unable to log on at work, but do my best to spend my downtime reading the forum. At home, I unfortunately have a life.

Among that life is a weekly commitment on Wednesday evenings. That's why I voted against exile on Wednesdays. Basically from the time I get home to work until bedtime, I'm busy and away from the computer. I logged on yesterday to make sure I got the post I'd been working on at home got posted, but had to go to bed so I couldn't log on to AIM.

The common targets was really just a place to start. I fully intend to move on from there to study up on others. But I do only have so much time in a day.

[Zedekiah]

- Will your SpyBuddies edit your responses to me this time too?
yeah sure fine, the spies say hi, now go visit Alexei after this.

- You voted for me at last Exile. Your thoughts were flawed but there, so that's good. Are you planning on voting for me next Exile? If so, why?
Yes, I reckon I'd like t' say how contradictory every single action you bring is, and how utterly lazy yer own scum hunting style is

- Who else are you suspicious of? Have you addressed these people directly? Lawrence was a main suspect, I've talked t' him today, but I honestly haven't got a a lot this round.