I will put up what I am around for
spies8stephanie (6:17:20 PM): hey tina
spies8tina (6:17:26 PM): Heh.
spies8broderick (6:18:03 PM): Hi
spies8tina (6:18:03 PM): Never even noticed that you came online there.
spies8tina (6:18:39 PM): So anyway, what is the story with the newcomers? Apart from the obvious lil being replaced.
spies8gabriel (6:19:08 PM): youre like the only one ive gotten a chance to talk to. D: new lil hasnt even come back yet ;_;
spies8broderick (6:19:09 PM): I haven't met the old or new Lilith yet.
spies8broderick (6:19:44 PM): Lawrence and Isaac were pretty big lurkers during the first episode, especially in the group chats.
spies8tina (6:19:46 PM): I met new-lil briefly.
spies8broderick (6:19:56 PM): Though both have gotten a little bit better on that.
spies8kiara (6:19:59 PM): hiya!!!
spies8broderick (6:20:03 PM): Hi!
spies8gabriel (6:20:19 PM): hey kiara!!
spies8kiara (6:20:48 PM): yay new people!
spies8tina (6:20:55 PM): So we are getting a crew of people who no one knows anyone about?
spies8kiara (6:20:56 PM): hi broderick, lillith
spies8stephanie (6:21:15 PM): so even tho isaac was a lurker?
spies8stephanie (6:21:29 PM): you think jasmine is more suspicious?
spies8broderick (6:22:05 PM): Yeah I think Jasmine has the most suspicious things against her out of everyone that came over with me. Which is Lawrence, Isaac, and Jasmine that I've actually spoken to.
spies8tina (6:22:29 PM): What would those things be?
spies8broderick (6:23:37 PM): Jasmine apparently doesn't care about arguments/cases against another person, if it doesn't involve her in some way. I was reading one of the group chats that I missed, and she was asked to read something. But she couldn't be bothered to.
spies8broderick (6:24:19 PM): She makes statements as if she is extremely certain on them, when asked to elaborate or explain, she struggles.
spies8broderick (6:25:20 PM): A little over twenty minutes before the first Exile, I FoS'd Jasmine, Margot, and Gertrude for bandwagoning. Margot answered my questions, Gertrude explained her vote, and Jasmine said nothing until about five minutes before the exile.
spies8broderick (6:25:37 PM): She started yelling at me at how stupid it was. I thought it was fishy for her to overreact to an FoS.
spies8stephanie (6:26:50 PM): and you voted chance?
spies8broderick (6:27:25 PM): The first exile I did. The second I voted for Jasmine.
spies8tina (6:27:53 PM): If chance was not immune what do you think you would have done?
spies8gabriel (6:28:02 PM): 'cause chance wasn't available for exile? *see what tina said*
spies8broderick (6:29:39 PM): I'm not entirely sure. I think it would depend on whether or not things went the same as they did.
spies8broderick (6:30:01 PM): Part of me thinks the Chance and Claude could be two citizens who are tunneled on each other, because they simply can not stand the other.
spies8broderick (6:30:14 PM): Both have made statements that they would like the other to go, regardless of alignment.
spies8broderick (6:31:27 PM): I think I still would of voted for Jasmine, because she piqued my suspicions due to her overreaction right before the first exile.
spies8tina (6:32:23 PM): Do you have any questions for what is happening on this side?
spies8stephanie (6:32:34 PM): so the first exile, camilla imploded with the self votes, but did you all know that was going to happen?
spies8broderick (6:33:55 PM): No. No one had any idea that she would get penalties. She was pretty active before the exile day.
spies8broderick (6:34:41 PM): I haven't had a chance to read all of the Republican threads yet.
spies8stephanie (6:34:45 PM): so chance was a likely exile
spies8gabriel (6:34:48 PM): can you tell us more about what lead up to margots exile?
spies8broderick (6:34:52 PM): What happened with Alexei and Savannah?
spies8broderick (6:35:20 PM): Chance, Claude, and Camilla were pretty much neck and neck up to the exile. I think they all three had a decent shot of going.
spies8gabriel (6:35:51 PM): savannah... idk. she screamed spy to me. walked like a spy, talked like a spy. claimed a cit role to me after she was exiled. flipped citizen. im still kinda peeved about that
spies8broderick (6:36:54 PM): Claude revealed in a chat the he had blocked Chance's vote. I had a pretty rotten schedule for this episode. Margot got into the spotlight, I think partly because of my FoS which pointed out both her and Gertrude's votes.
spies8broderick (6:37:14 PM): The light was on both of them, same with Claude as usual. Chance was in it, even though he was blocked.
spies8gabriel (6:37:33 PM): so who in particular rode the margot vote.
spies8broderick (6:38:33 PM): I think the majority of the Democrat's had Margot, Gertrude, and Isaac some where on their lists of suspicions. Gertrude less so than Margot and Isaac. I'm unsure as to exactly where Isaac came from.
spies8broderick (6:39:05 PM): I think Margot was more than Gertrude because Margot seemed to deflect on to Gertrude.
spies8tina (6:39:18 PM): Do you know what the suspicion is about regardling Isaac?
spies8broderick (6:40:21 PM): For some people I think it has to do with a chat during episode one. It was a heated argument between Claude and Camilla. With a side of Chance. Isaac would randomly pipe in with his two cents.
spies8tina (6:40:53 PM): Original or just following popular opinion.
spies8broderick (6:41:20 PM): Cinnamyn was on Margot from the first episode. Magalie I'm sure was just bandwagoning on popular opinion.
spies8broderick (6:42:40 PM): I think one or two people had the original opinion, then it turned into popular. I think the largest issue with the Democrats was that a few people would voice suspicions, or something would be brought up about someone or multiple people. The others would feed off of that. They wouldn't look elsewhere, they would find their suspects from whom was already in the light. Or had something said about them.
spies8broderick (6:42:58 PM): I'm unsure as to where exactly the suspicion of Isaac stemmed from.
spies8tina (6:43:29 PM): Well if he was quiet and started coming in with what was on a whole the popular opinion, that sound a whole lot like Alexei.
spies8broderick (6:43:37 PM): Gertrude I think was on Margot, mostly as an OMGUS. A pity we aren't on the same team together, because I find it odd that she is the only Democrat to be on both lynch wagons.
spies8gabriel (6:44:14 PM): what about cory. and the other loud obnoxious people over there.
spies8tina (6:44:33 PM): Yes, welcome to our calm and collected side in advance.
spies8broderick (6:44:37 PM): Lawrence and Jasmine I think bandwagoned on Margot. Lawrence is one of those people I believe who finds their suspects in the limelight.
spies8broderick (6:45:03 PM): Haha. I was dearly hoping that Chance, Claude, and Jasmine would be broken up. If chance and Claude were not, I didn't want to be on that team. lol
spies8broderick (6:45:14 PM): Cory was rather quiet for episode two.
spies8gabriel (6:45:33 PM): odd 'cause he always struck me as the sort whod have to get his word in edgewise
spies8gabriel (6:45:51 PM): or at least thats the impression i got 'cause he was always an abrassive prick come exile time
spies8broderick (6:45:58 PM): It was mainly Chance/Claude/Jasmine who held the light in the group chats. Chance and Claude would fight a lot. Chance and Jasmine would, not to the degree of Chance/Claude.
spies8gabriel (6:46:51 PM): poor nita
i hope she can talk some sense into the dems
spies8broderick (6:46:58 PM): I think he is normally quiet, almost a watcher rather than a participator. I think if the whole mess of the first episode had never happened - then I doubt he would of been noticed.
spies8broderick (6:47:29 PM): Episode two, people were trying to turn the focus on the more quiet players.
spies8broderick (6:48:06 PM): Heh. Tina even got spotlight action over there. lol
spies8stephanie (6:48:20 PM): tina??
spies8broderick (6:48:38 PM): Yeah.
spies8gabriel (6:48:55 PM): who put focus onto tina?
spies8broderick (6:49:03 PM): A whole mess. lol
spies8tina (6:49:09 PM): I saw that, it is because he is an idiot who took a lot of what I said out of context.
spies8gabriel (6:49:26 PM): i mean.
spies8gabriel (6:49:36 PM): who??? who put tina in the spotlight over there?
spies8broderick (6:50:11 PM): It got out that Cory and Tina apparently had a conversation about Awohali. Awohali made a comment about no exiles after the opener's chat. I would have to go back to see who exactly said it. But apparently Tina was suspicious of Awohali for supporting no exiles.
spies8tina (6:50:20 PM): spies8tina (10:58:29 PM):Well ok, I was right about someone mentioning it, just out of contextspies8tina (10:59:26 PM):Either way, that guy is very new, and that is a lot coming from me, or is doing a great job faking it.spies8tina (11:00:01 PM):I think it doesn't matter much though. It does not seem like it was a serious comment.
spies8tina (6:50:24 PM): bleh copy
spies8stephanie (6:50:24 PM): oh wait i know this was all cause of the no vote crap
spies8tina (6:50:27 PM):
spies8tina (10:58:29 PM): Well ok, I was right about someone mentioning it, just out of context
spies8tina (10:59:26 PM): Either way, that guy is very new, and that is a lot coming from me, or is doing a great job faking it.
spies8tina (11:00:01 PM): I think it doesn't matter much though. It does not seem like it was a serious comment.
spies8tina (6:50:31 PM): There we go.
spies8broderick (6:50:45 PM): Chance and Claude apparently thought this conversation between Cory and Tina took place after the teams were divided, so though they had caught something.
spies8tina (6:50:46 PM): He decided not to include any of those lines from what I saw.
spies8stephanie (6:51:06 PM): this is the whole mess that dane was interested in
spies8tina (6:51:10 PM): Yep.
spies8stephanie (6:51:11 PM): and that got him my vote
spies8gabriel (6:51:15 PM): chance is an abrassive asshole thats right
spies8gabriel (6:51:19 PM): i kept thinking it was cory lol
spies8broderick (6:51:36 PM): Chance was under a lot of of scrutiny, for spreading misinformation.
spies8stephanie (6:51:36 PM): one of those c people
spies8gabriel (6:51:43 PM): he should be.
spies8gabriel (6:51:58 PM): i wouldnt be surprised if he was a spy that got protected last episode
spies8broderick (6:52:04 PM): He helped make another mess in terms of attributing something to Mary.
spies8broderick (6:52:47 PM): It was a rather large headache trying to sort it out. The biggest issue I found was that no one seemed to want to clarify whether or not the information was right. It turned into a soap opera honestly. lol
spies8stephanie (6:52:52 PM): hmm looking forward to being able to vote for chance
spies8tina (6:53:34 PM): Ok. I have to leave for an hour or so, but will be back.
spies8gabriel (6:53:44 PM): if the democrats dont stop sucking and actually get around to doing something besides bicker and have close exiles.
spies8tina (6:53:45 PM): With any luck one of the other three will be here by then too.
spies8gabriel (6:53:51 PM): k tina
spies8broderick (6:53:59 PM): Bye
spies8stephanie (7:32:39 PM): wb
spies8gabriel (7:32:45 PM): hey tina
spies8tina (7:32:57 PM): Should have figured they would not be here by now but had to hope.
spies8tina (7:33:02 PM): Miss anything important?
spies8gabriel (7:33:27 PM): just us talking.
spies8gabriel (7:33:58 PM): ive started to gain hope a spy role was used on vannah to obfuscate her alignment for an episode but idk.
spies8broderick (7:34:16 PM): lol
spies8tina (7:34:42 PM): Odd assumption but if that was true I would be happy.
spies8stephanie (7:35:03 PM): sry i brought that up, but i can't think that sam would really do that to us
spies8gabriel (7:35:24 PM): i think he would; at least a role would.
spies8broderick (7:35:33 PM): If he did, I think there would be some sort of clue
spies8stephanie (7:35:35 PM): her claim after the fact was just so weird
spies8gabriel (7:36:02 PM): i think if there is a clue its in how he handled the reveal.
spies8broderick (7:36:03 PM): Did she seem like a new player?
spies8gabriel (7:36:07 PM): no.
spies8stephanie (7:36:09 PM): no
spies8gabriel (7:36:11 PM): in fact i think i know who she was
spies8tina (7:36:12 PM): Def not.
spies8stephanie (7:36:26 PM): don't tell us gave
spies8stephanie (7:36:32 PM): gabe*
spies8gabriel (7:36:35 PM): not going to
spies8stephanie (7:36:38 PM): lol
spies8broderick (7:36:44 PM): If to her, it didn't loook like she was going to be exiled, she may of gambled on it.
spies8tina (7:37:12 PM): I think she knew that she was going.
spies8kiara (7:37:13 PM): brb
spies8stephanie (7:37:16 PM): it was def up in the air until the allan calim
spies8broderick (7:37:33 PM): That was the day of exile?
spies8tina (7:37:34 PM): People keep saying that, I do not think it was.
spies8stephanie (7:37:45 PM): another thing i still don't understand is why she didn't ever vote allan
spies8tina (7:38:07 PM): She thought Allan was citizen. That was said quite a bit.
spies8gabriel (7:38:08 PM): she purposefully kepth him out of her list of suspects
spies8stephanie (7:38:34 PM): she said that on exile day, but previous night she was laughing at me for thinking allan a cit
spies8broderick (7:38:40 PM): Maybe she new about his role?
spies8tina (7:39:03 PM): Why does this really matter though?
spies8broderick (7:39:17 PM): It doesn't really.
spies8tina (7:39:21 PM): It is done at this point, critique dead players is not helpful now.
spies8broderick (7:39:35 PM): Unless you think her alignment was messed with.
spies8broderick (7:39:42 PM): *alignment reveal
spies8stephanie (7:39:44 PM): yeah probably it doesn't, i just keep coming back to the things i can't make sense of
spies8stephanie (7:40:11 PM): it's sort of like rondak
spies8stephanie (7:40:23 PM): i keep coming back to him
spies8tina (7:40:25 PM): I would not say impossible, but untill it is a sure thing that alignemnt reveal was messed with I am not going to consider it.
spies8tina (7:40:44 PM): Elfman is more into roleplaying then scumhunting.
spies8broderick (7:40:59 PM): He'll fit in with Magalie lol
spies8broderick (7:41:20 PM): Even though she is a total lunatic
spies8gabriel (7:41:45 PM): I got that from reading her chatlogs.
spies8stephanie (7:42:04 PM): yeah i think allan was off when he said nita was hiding behind her role
spies8stephanie (7:42:19 PM): if he had said rondak, i might have jumped on it
spies8stephanie (7:42:44 PM): obv.
spies8gabriel (7:42:47 PM): god allan just didnt like nita
spies8broderick (7:42:47 PM): Roleplaying is fine, as long as it is balanced with scumhunting and playing the game
spies8tina (7:42:52 PM): Nita is amazing, what she is doing is what looks like the perfect ammount of roleplay.
spies8stephanie (7:43:10 PM): i agree
spies8stephanie (7:43:22 PM): but i am sort of glad she is on other team
spies8tina (7:43:26 PM): It makes her a distinct player, yet she is very effective at everything she does.
spies8tina (7:43:42 PM): She is needed over there, but I miss her tons already.
spies8stephanie (7:44:21 PM): i just disagreed with her stance on looking for bussers
spies8stephanie (7:44:39 PM): she was fairly adamant about it
spies8tina (7:45:19 PM): It was pretty right though. You look for scummy, if it happens to be a busser then it is.
spies8tina (7:45:37 PM): You kinda took it to the opposite extreme.
spies8stephanie (7:45:47 PM): i did
spies8tina (7:46:14 PM): Why did you change that stance eventually anyways?
spies8stephanie (7:46:17 PM): and after talking to owen some more, i am off him
spies8stephanie (7:46:35 PM): but i still have my suspicions of rondak
spies8tina (7:46:51 PM): I mean, why did you not vote a Alexei voter?
spies8stephanie (7:46:57 PM): i didn't change that stance, just gave up on it for the time being
spies8tina (7:47:02 PM): Even someone like Themba who was on him untill last minute.
spies8stephanie (7:47:15 PM): themba is on my cit list
spies8tina (7:47:28 PM): Just had to wonder since Savannah was basically the polar opposite as to what you started the day looking for.
spies8stephanie (7:47:31 PM): and you, who also moved at the last minute
spies8stephanie (7:47:42 PM): i agree tina
spies8stephanie (7:48:08 PM): i started out looking at rondak and hambone
spies8stephanie (7:48:14 PM): then looked at owen
spies8broderick (7:48:20 PM): What was her stance on looking for bussers?
spies8stephanie (7:48:43 PM): it was "the dumbest thing she'd ever heard"
spies8broderick (7:49:32 PM): She didn't agree that looking for busses was productive, or that spys would buss their pals
spies8broderick (7:49:34 PM): ?
spies8tina (7:49:52 PM): She said just scumhunting was better.
spies8stephanie (7:50:04 PM): mostly i think that it wasn't productive
spies8tina (7:50:06 PM): While you should consider bussing, you can not limit yourself.
spies8stephanie (7:50:11 PM): better places to look
spies8stephanie (7:51:06 PM): which makes sense. but somehow just got caught under my craw
spies8tina (7:51:22 PM): Most people do not like it when people disagree with them.
spies8stephanie (7:51:43 PM): lol, yep, that's obviously true in my case
spies8tina (7:51:44 PM): I like it, when people agree with me too much I get paranoid.
spies8gabriel (7:51:58 PM): like with alex ? D:
spies8stephanie (7:52:12 PM): also true, which is why i was suspicious of hambone
spies8broderick (7:52:22 PM): Yeah. I think looking only at bussers isn't productive, however I think it needs to be looked at.
spies8tina (7:52:27 PM): That was a decent example, although him giving up the Zek wagon and at least claiming to have given up Dane wagon weighed heavier on me.
spies8broderick (7:52:32 PM): People who agree with you a lot, definitely get under my skin.
spies8broderick (7:52:38 PM): They tell you what you want to hear.
spies8stephanie (7:53:25 PM): kiara, are you still here?
spies8stephanie (7:54:02 PM): new kiara, on the other hand, has not agreed with me about anything
spies8stephanie (7:54:10 PM): and yet seems pretty reasonable
spies8tina (7:55:40 PM): I think she only recently got caught up.
spies8stephanie (7:56:37 PM): yeah so still way too early to make a judgment
spies8stephanie (7:56:43 PM): but i like her so far
spies8tina (7:56:53 PM): I still say I thought old-kiara was probably citizen.
spies8stephanie (7:57:36 PM): and new lilith is going to have the cleanest house in the world
spies8stephanie (7:57:45 PM): she's been away cleaning for hours
spies8gabriel (7:57:57 PM): yeah whats up with that D:
spies8stephanie (7:58:34 PM): thumbs!
spies8tina (7:58:40 PM): New lil was getting caught up last time I talked with her.
spies8gabriel (7:58:42 PM): THEMBS
spies8broderick (7:58:43 PM): Hi Themba.
spies8themba (7:58:43 PM): hiya! hiya new people
spies8tina (7:58:46 PM): Well, last and only.
spies8gabriel (7:58:51 PM): we only have noe new person
spies8stephanie (7:59:01 PM): only brod
spies8tina (7:59:15 PM): He is not as boring as the other side makes him sound.
spies8broderick (7:59:28 PM): lol. Magalie.
spies8tina (7:59:47 PM): Over there is just a large ammount of crazy folk, so normal people look boring.
spies8tina (7:59:54 PM): I am sure they would hate me as well.
spies8themba (7:59:54 PM): that was so funny.
spies8gabriel (8:00:12 PM): thembs whats up howd your break go huh uh huhuhuhuh?
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spies8broderick (8:00:13 PM): I think she only called me boring because I was trying to talk to her about her suspicions, and all she wanted to do was roleplay around
spies8broderick (8:00:45 PM): Be back in a few minutes
spies8themba (8:03:09 PM): hey gabeeee. break was good. needed. i actually got to do a bit of reading for a change which was nice! how was yours?
spies8stephanie (8:03:44 PM): i got some laundry done -- that was good
spies8gabriel (8:04:36 PM): i should be doing laundry but i dont have any detergent D:
spies8themba (8:04:55 PM): haha i did laundry too!
spies8themba (8:04:58 PM): Dear Sam,
spies8themba (8:05:02 PM): Thanks for the laundry time.
spies8themba (8:05:10 PM): Love, the Republicans.
spies8stephanie (8:05:10 PM): i swear it seems like sometimes i seem to spend my entire life either washing clothes or washing dishes
spies8themba (8:05:42 PM): i prefer washing dishes to cooking though
spies8themba (8:06:25 PM): brb
spies8broderick (8:06:26 PM): k i'm back.
spies8stephanie (8:06:39 PM): and i prefer throwing away the empty pizza boxes to either
spies8gabriel (8:06:56 PM): wheres owen hes usually online by now
spies8broderick (8:07:08 PM): I prefer cooking to doing laundry. lol
spies8stephanie (8:07:09 PM): i talked to him this morning
spies8gabriel (8:07:26 PM): i love cooking more than i love cleaning
spies8stephanie (8:07:51 PM): i'd do laundry for any man who would cook for me
spies8broderick (8:08:59 PM): lol
spies8themba (8:11:05 PM): what steph said
spies8stephanie (8:11:21 PM): brod, i am still trying to get my head around the first dems exile
spies8stephanie (8:11:32 PM): where all the c players were up
spies8broderick (8:12:13 PM): lol. almost all. Cinnamyn wasn't.
spies8gabriel (8:12:21 PM): and cory
spies8stephanie (8:12:49 PM): but you suspected some players for bandwagoning?
spies8broderick (8:12:52 PM): Cory too.
spies8broderick (8:13:26 PM): Yeah. Margot, Gertrude, and Jasmine. Their votes in the tally thread looked the most bandwagony
spies8broderick (8:15:29 PM): Claude suspected Cory towards the beginning of the episode, apparently Cory was asking Claude questions, while not volunteering any information himself. Supposedly it is normal for people to spontaneously give up information about themselves with out any prodding.
spies8themba (8:16:30 PM): I am interested in people who voted Margot. She seemed very much a new, struggling Cit to me.
spies8stephanie (8:16:43 PM): that's evidently why allan voted owen in our first exile
spies8themba (8:16:52 PM): and LOL @ Brod. That's completely normal...
spies8broderick (8:17:01 PM): So Claude attributed Cory to being pushy, and rather on the abrasive side. Claude later admitted that he wasn't even interested in having a conversation, and when the relevant bits of the conversation were outed. It pretty much broke up a chunk of Claude's case and reasoning against Cory. Which led to the entire misinformation crap regarding Chance.
spies8broderick (8:18:07 PM): The Claude suspecting Cory ordeal led to the misinformation, because it was said that Mary called Cory pushy by Chance. which brought Chance into the limelight. Claude later got onto Camilla about two statements she made.
spies8broderick (8:19:09 PM): With Margot I think the majority of the suspicion against her dealt with her vote. It looked bandwagongy, then when she explained it she deflected onto Gertrude
spies8broderick (8:20:10 PM): During the first episode she had suspected Claude, yet got her suspicion of Camilla from Claude. Which didn't seem to make sense. She ultimately voted Camilla over Claude, because Claude was more active.
spies8broderick (8:20:16 PM): I think she was easy to jump on to.
spies8themba (8:20:20 PM): Fascinating. You voted Jasmine last round? Jasmine voted Chance Episode 1. Was it Chance or Cory who had immunity Episode 2?
spies8broderick (8:20:31 PM): Chance
spies8themba (8:21:05 PM): Ty. And that's why she couldn't be bothered reading anything on him, because she couldn't vote for him anyway? Is that right? Sorry just checking my understanding.
spies8broderick (8:21:31 PM): Jasmine?
spies8themba (8:21:37 PM): Yes Jasmine.
spies8broderick (8:21:53 PM): She made statements that she didn't want to talk about him, since he couldn't be voted for. But she would still antagonize him in chats.
spies8themba (8:22:16 PM): Can I ask why you voted for her last episode?
spies8broderick (8:22:35 PM): She seemed pretty certain he was a spy.
spies8broderick (8:22:38 PM): Sure.
spies8broderick (8:23:39 PM): Before exile one, about twenty minutes before I FoS'd Margot, Gertrude, and Jasmine for their votes. All three looked bandwagony. Margot answered my questions about hers, Gertrude explained hers, and Jasmine didn't really respond until about five minutes before the exile.
spies8broderick (8:23:46 PM): When she yelled at me about it being stupid.
spies8broderick (8:24:16 PM): That piqued my suspicion of her, it was a complete overreaction to an FoS, which essentially means nothing. Just a statement that I am suspicious of you for your vote.
spies8themba (8:24:45 PM): So you voted for her because she yelled at you, overreacted to your FoS and you thought she was bandwagonning?
spies8broderick (8:25:12 PM): I voted for her because she makes statements concerning her opinions, but when she is asked to elabroate or give reasons why, she struggles.
spies8themba (8:25:36 PM): Interesting. I am intrigued by her. Isaac too.
spies8broderick (8:26:00 PM): Yes Chance was unvotable last episode.
spies8broderick (8:26:22 PM): However I assume that if you are 100% certain that he is a spy, you would have some sort of case prepared with evidence to show for it.
spies8broderick (8:26:35 PM): In your confessional at the least.
spies8themba (8:26:38 PM): That's what I was wondering.
spies8themba (8:26:48 PM): Ready to go after the episode ended.
spies8themba (8:27:16 PM): Or I would just post it anyway, and leave it there to be read. Just in case I was imprisoned.
spies8broderick (8:27:25 PM): She would say that she would have to go look for the relavent bits.
spies8themba (8:28:45 PM): I wonder if the spies knew there would be a team swap before the cits did.
spies8stephanie (8:29:20 PM): i doubt it
spies8stephanie (8:29:33 PM): i think everyone knew there was a swap coming up
spies8broderick (8:29:54 PM): I assumed there would be one eventually
spies8stephanie (8:29:56 PM): tho after exile 1, there might have been some swap
spies8themba (8:30:50 PM): Just thinking why someone wouldn't bother making a case on their main suspicion... It's interesting. Kinda like Allan and his 'CBF reading'.
spies8stephanie (8:30:52 PM): i think the swap was all pre-planned and not a result of any voting
spies8stephanie (8:31:07 PM): CBF?
spies8themba (8:31:22 PM): Can't Be F&cked.
spies8stephanie (8:31:51 PM): allan is one weird bird
spies8stephanie (8:32:31 PM): i'm still trying to get over his "i don't want to talk to you" statement
spies8themba (8:32:37 PM): Indeedy. I can't wait to see what happens with him.
spies8tina (8:33:00 PM): I am thinking he follows someone around for a majority of the game and that is about it.
spies8themba (8:33:07 PM): So shoddy. The whole thing. Stoner screwed up that whole episode.
spies8stephanie (8:33:41 PM): huh?
spies8broderick (8:33:56 PM): He largely doesn't talk much at all?
spies8tina (8:34:24 PM): Thats a fair assesment.
spies8themba (8:34:30 PM): I was perfectly happy with my vote on him. I was sure he was a giant big Spy. Then he role claims. Or Jenny does on his behalf. Then I had to switch to Savannah, or you Steph. Neither of which I was comfortable about.
spies8themba (8:34:40 PM): And when he does talk Broderick, he lies 50% of the time.
spies8themba (8:34:43 PM): Helpful as.
spies8tina (8:35:21 PM): So I have a question about dem side.
spies8tina (8:35:28 PM): You said people were interested in inactives last exile.
spies8tina (8:35:35 PM): How come Lawrences name did not come up?
spies8tina (8:35:44 PM): I see almost nothing from him.
spies8tina (8:35:55 PM): Does he live in private chats or something?
spies8broderick (8:37:00 PM): Well people tried to turn the limelight on the quieter people. It largely wasn't that successful. Lawrence I have no idea if he does talk privately with people. I never saw him on much. The one time I privately spoke to him, he congratulated me on my post which he took as a synopsis of one of the group chats.
spies8broderick (8:37:29 PM): I think he is definitely one of the players who takes their suspects from other people. Not much originality from him.
spies8stephanie (8:37:30 PM): he only had 3 votes in the poll
spies8broderick (8:38:05 PM): Him suspecting me because apparently I ask a lot of questions but don't give my own opinion, I had to laugh at. Considering he is rarely ever in any chats that I am in. lol
spies8themba (8:38:26 PM): Just rereading his thoughts now.
spies8themba (8:38:34 PM): He put both Chance and Claude "on hold".
spies8tina (8:38:55 PM): Yes. That was odd.
spies8themba (8:38:55 PM): Can I do that? Nita will kill me. Wait... Huh! She's not here to kill me!
spies8themba (8:39:05 PM): Tina will kill me instead
spies8broderick (8:39:17 PM): I imagine Claude because of his role and Chance because he was blocked.
spies8tina (8:39:18 PM): I have to take over for her in punishing poor logic.
spies8tina (8:39:29 PM): Well you have to ignore them why?
spies8tina (8:39:39 PM): You should still question/push/etc them.
spies8tina (8:39:53 PM): It would be stupid to let them slip away.
spies8themba (8:40:00 PM): Q) Do you know if Lawrence's posts are from IM's, or has he taken all of the quotes he's used from the team chat threads?
spies8tina (8:40:03 PM): They are a part of the game still.
spies8broderick (8:40:17 PM): I assume it was for episode two only. Not the entire game.
spies8broderick (8:40:37 PM): I have no idea. My guess would be from the team chat threads.
spies8themba (8:40:55 PM): Interesting.
spies8broderick (8:43:17 PM): For me, when ever I was in a chat with him. I never noticed he was there. He very rarely spoke.
spies8themba (8:43:25 PM): "Jasmine at least seems to have a prsence, small and flufft as it may be. Margot to me is invisible and forgettable, which seems more like a spy trying to sneak by."
spies8stephanie (8:44:25 PM): and that's probably why margot is gone?
spies8themba (8:45:14 PM): Jasmine doesn't seem small and fluffy to me. She seems to be posting a bit around.
spies8broderick (8:45:28 PM): I wonder if he and Margot were ever in a chat together.
spies8broderick (8:45:48 PM): Lawrence's reasons for voting for Margot, looked to me like he was wanting to vote her and then searching for reasons to.
spies8themba (8:45:57 PM): yes.
spies8stephanie (8:46:30 PM): but margot was more or less invisible and forgettable?
spies8stephanie (8:46:34 PM): no?
spies8themba (8:47:12 PM): She was obviously not that forgettable, as she was voted... Kinda the opposite really.
spies8broderick (8:47:20 PM): Yes and no
spies8broderick (8:47:37 PM): She wasn't a loud person as say Claude or Cinnamyn, or Jasmine even.
spies8tina (8:47:49 PM): Margot is worried about being "misinterpreted"; she voted Camilla over Claude due to effort, and she's pushing Gertie. Jasmine is still pretty much an enigma.
I think at this point, I will be voting Margot over Jasmine for one primary reason--Jasmine at least seems to have a prsence, small and flufft as it may be.
spies8tina (8:48:16 PM): Is it just me or is that voting someone for the same reason you are voting them.
spies8broderick (8:48:17 PM): lol
spies8stephanie (8:48:36 PM): huh?
spies8tina (8:48:43 PM): Seriously.
spies8tina (8:48:51 PM): It is quite similar.
spies8broderick (8:48:56 PM): Yeah it does. It also seems to be he is contradicting himself.
spies8broderick (8:49:23 PM): Jasmine is an enigma, but has a presence - small and flufft as it may be
spies8broderick (8:49:40 PM): I assume he typoed and meant fluffy. lol
spies8stephanie (8:52:29 PM): so in the jasmine/isaac debate, are they 2 cits? or 1 cit? or 0 cit?
spies8themba (8:53:14 PM): that is a question we need the 2 of them here to help answer!
spies8stephanie (8:53:22 PM): def
spies8themba (8:53:28 PM): * waits *
spies8themba (8:53:37 PM): have they been on yet?
spies8stephanie (8:53:51 PM): not that i have seen
spies8stephanie (8:53:56 PM): i was on this morning
spies8stephanie (8:54:03 PM): and gone all afternoon
spies8themba (8:54:29 PM): Hmmm. Well let's hope they show up soon. I can't wait to meet them properly. Lawrence too.
spies8stephanie (8:54:40 PM): YES
spies8stephanie (8:55:35 PM): going to bed now...good to talk to you brod
spies8stephanie (8:55:46 PM): and the rest of you old reps
spies8broderick (8:55:50 PM): Jasmine I dont think gets on much at this time. Lawrence and Isaac meh.
spies8broderick (8:55:56 PM): Good to see ya Stephanie
spies8themba (8:55:57 PM): Nighttttt Steph
spies8broderick (8:56:04 PM): I personally doubt that they are both citizens.
spies8themba (8:56:30 PM): I think you may well be right.
spies8kiara (8:57:58 PM): i guys, sorry i afk'd for so long. on at work g2g now, cya tomorrow
spies8themba (8:58:40 PM): See you later Kiara. I'll chat to you another time hopefully.
spies8broderick (9:00:11 PM): lol. Alexei must of been a new player and a new spy
spies8tina (9:01:03 PM): You reading up what happened there?
spies8themba (9:01:10 PM): brb
spies8broderick (9:01:47 PM): Yeah. I'm reading all of the threads from oldest to newest.
spies8broderick (9:03:03 PM): What happened with Zedekiah? He was being questioned and left or something?
spies8tina (9:03:52 PM): Apparently right after the game started he did not talk with anyone but stayed online.
spies8broderick (9:04:18 PM): Ohh
spies8broderick (9:06:57 PM): Nita and yourself were the first to suspect Alexei?
spies8broderick (9:07:02 PM): When did Owen come in?
spies8tina (9:07:40 PM): Owen joined in a bit that night when I talked with him.
spies8tina (9:08:00 PM): So he was in it before most others were.
spies8gabriel (9:08:15 PM): in fact i think owen did provide part of the case on alex
spies8broderick (9:08:23 PM): Ahh. How come you didn't vote for Alexei?
spies8tina (9:09:20 PM): The night before exile he told me that he was voting for Dane. After I discussed that suspicion with him, he realized a lot of it was based in a misconception, and said he would vote Steph.
spies8tina (9:09:34 PM): At that point he was refusing the vote either of the other two getting any suspicion.
spies8tina (9:09:50 PM): Right before the exile, Zek called the Burg "HQ"
spies8tina (9:10:05 PM): That one pushed me over the edge on it.
spies8tina (9:10:31 PM): If either of those two did not occur I do not think I would have moved.
spies8broderick (9:11:28 PM): Ah okay. What were his reasons for voting for Stephanie?
spies8broderick (9:11:48 PM): What was Zedekiah's reason for calling it HQ?
spies8tina (9:12:26 PM): No one really knows on the HQ thing. Nita later dug up that he had called it headquarters before and no one had noticed though.
spies8tina (9:13:15 PM): Steph vote was odd. He said that a lot of the reason that Steph was suspecting Dane was reaching, but she had a few good points. The ones that he considered good points were what I disproved, so he switched there.
spies8tina (9:13:38 PM): It was very unusual, but I expected some resistance instead of 100% dooming himself.
spies8tina (9:14:08 PM): Turns out he never moved his vote, but what he said had me going.
spies8broderick (9:14:41 PM): Oh so no one has asked Zedekiah about the HQ thing?
spies8tina (9:15:14 PM): I think it was mentioned, let me look at logs.
spies8lilith (9:15:20 PM): Ello mates!
spies8broderick (9:15:27 PM): Hi Lilith.
spies8lilith (9:15:33 PM): Ello Mr. Broderick
spies8broderick (9:15:43 PM): If Zedekiah has called the Burg HQ, that is a pretty large slip.
spies8tina (9:15:58 PM): spies8zedekiah (7:17:16 PM): oh I see, I need t' watch my mouth
spies8zedekiah (7:17:39 PM): keep my militia talk out o the game when I can
spies8lilith (9:16:22 PM):
spies8lilith (9:16:44 PM): The keep my militia talk sounds like mafia covering it up, but saying he needs to watch his mouth would be too obvious for a mafia to say... lol.
spies8tina (9:16:45 PM): It is confusing over here.
spies8lilith (9:17:50 PM): Who is XTonisha? lol
spies8broderick (9:17:53 PM): Yeah.
spies8broderick (9:17:55 PM): A viewer
spies8tina (9:18:02 PM): [22:14] spies8hambone: can we post important stuff on the board or no
[22:14] spies8hambone: is that allowed
[22:14] spies8rondak: I was about to ask that, good sir.
[22:15] spies8zedekiah: of course, the board is our headquarters
spies8tina (9:18:16 PM): That was something Nita later pointed out from much earlier in the game.
spies8broderick (9:18:27 PM): Did you guys not have a 'meet your fellow republicans' threads, where character bios were posted?
spies8tina (9:18:34 PM): We did.
spies8broderick (9:19:16 PM): Looks like Sam whisked them away.
spies8broderick (9:19:39 PM): Wanted to see what Zedekiah's character was.
spies8gabriel (9:20:00 PM): OH HEY LILITH
spies8lilith (9:20:32 PM): Hello Mr. Gabriel
spies8lilith (9:20:35 PM): Angel of death .
spies8lilith (9:20:36 PM): lol
spies8broderick (9:20:42 PM): Well he knows that HQ is what they called the Spies private forum. If he had already played spies, he would know that so would already avoid using those words.
spies8broderick (9:20:46 PM): Heh.
spies8broderick (9:21:43 PM): Or did someone tell him about the HQ?
spies8gabriel (9:23:00 PM): i dont think anyone said anything to him until the slip that got him in hot water
spies8lilith (9:23:17 PM): Who point out the slip?
spies8lilith (9:24:00 PM): Just curious. From my perspective, it is likely he is mafia. But there is always the possibility whoever pointed it out is mafia trying to incrimintae someone else for their usage of words. (What if he was a mafia in a past Spies game and thus used that word?)
spies8broderick (9:24:02 PM): Calling the Burg HQ?
spies8tina (9:24:11 PM): [21:48] spies8zedekiah: but if he's town he should read our own dang HQ
spies8lilith (9:24:14 PM): I think too much though, so everything to me just cancels everything out, lol.
spies8tina (9:24:15 PM): That was the line.
spies8broderick (9:25:00 PM): Is that in reference to Dane or someone reading the Democrats board?
spies8tina (9:25:17 PM): I think "he" was Allan.
spies8broderick (9:26:13 PM): Oh. That doesn't really seem to be a reference to a Spy HQ, so it could be legitimate accidental useage, rather than a slip.
spies8tina (9:26:37 PM): Right, it was just another "what?" in a long chain of stuff from him.
spies8lilith (9:27:12 PM): Although, from a psychological perspective, it could be a freduian slip of constantly seeing a HQ thread in the forums. There are so many ways you can look at things and analyze them and argue from either perspective.
spies8lilith (9:28:08 PM): For me personally I am just going to talk to him and see if I can get a read about his alignment. I've decided instead of trying to catch up on everything I missed, I'm just going to meet the people and see how they act today. It'll be easier on me (I'm a replacement btw ).
spies8broderick (9:28:51 PM): Haha. Well I never got to meet the old Lilith.
spies8lilith (9:29:28 PM):
spies8broderick (9:29:50 PM): I heard she talked about 100mph
spies8lilith (9:30:12 PM): From what I can see from the confessionals of old Lilith, she wasn't really on that much anyways, lol.
spies8broderick (9:30:33 PM): She was on vacation/away fro the first episode.
spies8gabriel (9:31:09 PM): haha
btw lilith, brod im kinda easier to get ahold of in private im cause i sometyimes dont notice chatting in here until like thirty minutes in
spies8lilith (9:31:22 PM): Ok .
spies8broderick (9:31:30 PM): K
spies8lilith (9:31:57 PM): Were yall both on the side that voted out Alexei?
spies8gabriel (9:32:47 PM): i was one of the ones who voted alex. brod was a dem. tina built the case on alex.
spies8gabriel (9:33:04 PM): but out of everyone here i was the only one who *did* vote alex
spies8broderick (9:33:27 PM): Why did you vote for him Gabriel?
spies8lilith (9:33:31 PM): I already talked to Tina about what went down. I guess to me a spy getting voted off and what led up to that and how people reacted is the main thing that interests me at this moment.
spies8tina (9:33:32 PM): I was on the side that was voting him untill about an hour before exile.
spies8gabriel (9:34:25 PM): i voted him kinda of because of the case and i didnt like how he was acting in chat, public or private. just sort of reminded me of scum ive played against in the past
spies8lilith (9:34:26 PM): Who were the other two people that were goin to recieve votes that Alexei said he didn't support voting either of them?
spies8tina (9:34:57 PM): Zek and Dane, although he did vote Dane, just had said the night before that he was not.
spies8gabriel (9:35:57 PM): i think his mindset was OMG GOING TO VOTE FOR ANYONE WHO ISNT ME so hed live another episode or something like that
spies8broderick (9:37:32 PM): Why not vote for Zedekiah then. Before exile, who was looking to receive more votes, DAne of Zed?
spies8themba (9:37:41 PM): backkkk
spies8broderick (9:37:45 PM): *Dane or Zed?
spies8tina (9:37:50 PM): He had talked himself into a position where voting Zek was suicide.
spies8broderick (9:37:51 PM): Welcome back
spies8tina (9:37:57 PM): Zek was getting more votes.
spies8gabriel (9:38:06 PM): basically
spies8tina (9:38:07 PM): People were just pissed at Dane.
spies8themba (9:38:08 PM): TY. Lemme see what you've been chatting about.
spies8tina (9:38:18 PM): Dane belongs on dem side.
spies8broderick (9:38:25 PM): Ah okay. From a self survival standpoint, voting Dane was silly.
spies8themba (9:38:26 PM): Hahaha
spies8broderick (9:38:44 PM): Unless it looked like Dane would get more votes than zedekiah
spies8gabriel (9:38:47 PM): honestly alex seemed to have given up just like
spies8gabriel (9:38:54 PM): the day before exile
spies8gabriel (9:39:06 PM): we didnt even see him at all (or barely) the day of
spies8tina (9:39:07 PM): He came to me trying again the night before, thats where he said he was changing off of Dane.
spies8broderick (9:40:05 PM): My guess is he was a newbie.
spies8themba (9:41:58 PM): I think you are right Broderick. Was a good result.
spies8broderick (9:45:32 PM): What about Savannah last episode?
spies8themba (9:45:58 PM): Ugh. Last episode was a shambles. Shambles.
spies8themba (9:46:35 PM): For me, it came down to choosing Savannah or Jenny. Cause I wasn't voting myself and there was a good chance I'd be exiled after Jenny outed Allan.
spies8tina (9:49:05 PM): Savannah was interesting. The posts from Gabe and Nita in the topic Gabe made, and the additon in the thread I made was mainly what it was.
spies8tina (9:49:23 PM): It was an odd one though, almost everyone expressed a little bit of suspicion though.
spies8tina (9:49:37 PM): It was hard to tell where the votes were going though.
spies8tina (9:50:02 PM): It was about two hours before untill Savannah was the visable front runner in public votes iirc.
spies8themba (9:50:03 PM): Once Allan's role was revealed, it could have easily been me, Steph or Jenny.
spies8themba (9:50:09 PM): From where I sat anyway.
spies8themba (9:50:18 PM): I mean Savannah. Not Jenny.
spies8tina (9:50:42 PM): That is about right, although at that point it was most likely Savannah.
spies8tina (9:50:53 PM): I think it was either Steph or Savannah at that point.
spies8themba (9:51:30 PM): I think Dane would've switched to me. And I think if the others saw Nita's vote they would have too. Well some of them anyway.
spies8tina (9:51:43 PM): That is true.
spies8broderick (9:52:04 PM): Do you think that some people followed Nita's vote because of what happened with Alexei?
spies8themba (9:52:10 PM): Hell yes.
spies8broderick (9:52:18 PM): Or even your own, Tina?
spies8themba (9:52:21 PM): Nita was a big influence on some people.
spies8tina (9:52:29 PM): Well, Nita is someone who is smart, and make things easy to follow.
spies8broderick (9:52:55 PM): She is viewed as largely citizen then?
spies8themba (9:53:00 PM): Her interrogation skills are impressive. You can almost hear here ticking questions off a list.
spies8themba (9:53:14 PM): She is by most I believe Broderick.
spies8tina (9:53:17 PM): I would like to think I command a little more sway in my suspicions then others, but she was in control.
spies8themba (9:53:23 PM): Most people think the Doc saved her.
spies8tina (9:53:24 PM): Not most, all.
spies8broderick (9:53:42 PM): Ah okay.
spies8tina (9:53:43 PM): I do not think anyone thinks Nita is not at least probably citizen.
spies8themba (9:54:07 PM): I'd agree with 'probably'. But not 'definitely'.
spies8broderick (9:54:45 PM): My opinion on that kind of situation is that yes they are probable citizens and are not likely to lie to you or attempt to manipulate you; yet unless they are the/a cop. They are not going to to be all knowing.
spies8broderick (9:55:20 PM): I don't agree with following for the sake of following unless it is a cop guilty.
spies8themba (9:55:33 PM): Likewise.
spies8tina (9:55:55 PM): If you think someone is citizen and that they are good at spy hunting, following to an extent is good.
spies8tina (9:56:07 PM): Someone needs to be the sheep.
spies8tina (9:56:18 PM): Too many shepards causes problems.
spies8broderick (9:57:52 PM): Good at spy hunting doesn't equate to infallible.
spies8lilith (9:57:53 PM): I like Tina's point. XD Following someone you think is a citizen and good at finding spies is a good thing. But you still need to think for yourself. I think that's what I'll have to do till I get situated. I keep feeling like my approach to the game and figuring things out will keep changing. Because I feel like it'
spies8lilith (9:58:06 PM): s hard to read people, lol. I keep looking at things from different perspectives.
spies8tina (9:58:18 PM): Of course it is not infallible.
spies8tina (9:58:43 PM): You need to people whos opinions you can trust though.
spies8themba (9:58:56 PM): Definitely not infallible!
spies8lilith (9:59:10 PM): And I am not a fan of the intense logical talk (such as I saw in Zed's post) that I am aware comes from experienced forum players, but it kind of intimidates me to be honest because A) I know I am not a good arguer when it comes to using impressive words and B) I am aware that some skilled mafia players as mafia can be equally convincing as when they are town and it scares me, haha.
spies8broderick (9:59:33 PM): I agree with that. However too many sheep who follow simply for the sake of following is worse than too many leaders.
spies8tina (9:59:55 PM): They both are bad for entirely different reasons.
spies8lilith (9:59:57 PM): Everyone keeps talking about the past in a matter-of-fact way and it kind of doesn't help because I can't read passion or true feelings in the way they talk about it. Lol.
spiesXTonisha (9:59:58 PM): tldr
spies8themba (10:00:48 PM): on the threads can be different to here lilith. don't forget that. you'll get a better feel for people by doing what you said - talking one on one.
spies8broderick (10:00:49 PM): Huh Lilith?
spies8lilith (10:00:54 PM): At this moment I am just rambing because I feel very lost and have no one to connect to, LOL.
spies8themba (10:01:05 PM): awe
spies8broderick (10:01:13 PM): Forum mafia is definitely different than Spies.
spies8lilith (10:01:59 PM): I am trying to see the passion in people's suspscions because my theory is a mafia player, even if really good, can't fake the same passion and thought a citizen has in their suspcions. But at the moment I'm getting the same "cold" feeling from everyone, lol.
spies8gabriel (10:03:13 PM): i still say vannah walked like a duck talked like aduck quacked like a duck
spies8tina (10:03:37 PM): This side seems to be the more monotone and serious side. That may explain the "cold" feeling.
spies8tina (10:03:45 PM): We seem to get more done though.
spies8themba (10:03:52 PM): it could be also lilith that it's still early on, so people are still feeling eachother out. however i think this cast is very different to a few others i've watched.
spies8gabriel (10:03:55 PM): i still say vannah is a duck
spies8themba (10:04:03 PM): and what tina said. so serious. all the time.
spies8gabriel (10:04:12 PM): quack quack quack vannahduck
spies8themba (10:04:21 PM): lol Gabe
spies8tina (10:05:06 PM): What are your thoughts on what you have heard so far though Lil?
spies8broderick (10:05:30 PM): lol Lilith. This side definitely seems more laid back compared to the Democrats.
spies8tina (10:05:45 PM): We are all "boring".
spies8tina (10:05:58 PM): Why do you think the "who do you like talking to" poll was so close?
spies8tina (10:06:15 PM): Heck I was tied for second and you see how super fun lovin' I am.
spies8themba (10:06:22 PM): dull, duller and dullest.
spies8lilith (10:06:24 PM): Well, to be completely honest, I've been more-so attempting to read the people I've talked to then what they've talked about. And I keep getting conflicting ideas about everyone I talked to. One thing that stands out to me at the moment is that Savannah was an innocent (known fact) and her suspect was Zed, and she tried hard to get people to vote for him (from what I hear). So from my mind, an innocent suspect Zed. That's the only sure-fire information I have right now, LOL.
spies8lilith (10:07:38 PM): Like Gabriel's being thinking it was Savannah and the way he admits to it makes me think he was a town that just had a bad hunch. But the way he just stated he still thinks it's her makes me feel like he may be mafia just trying to point out he could be wrong. So I keep getting conflicted ideas about people. And I
spies8lilith (10:08:14 PM): 'm not afraid to share my thought outloud, cuz I like seeing people's reactions, and I'm not afraid to say that I'm looking for reactions, because I just think it'll make the mafia more nervous to respond if they know that's what I'm looking for, lol.
spies8lilith (10:08:30 PM): And now I feel like I'm typing 100 mph like the old lilith supposedly did, LOL.
spies8themba (10:08:38 PM): hahaha
spies8lilith (10:09:48 PM): Yaaaa, those are my thoughts right now, LOL.
spies8lilith (10:10:59 PM): Any responses?
spies8tina (10:11:24 PM): Well, is that your way of saying your top suspect is Zek?
spies8broderick (10:11:25 PM): Haha. Nah I don't think you are talking as much as the Old Lilith.
spies8gabriel (10:11:27 PM): nothing. ill admit to reaching for straws on the "vannah must still be a spy!!! BUTHAYNA!!!!" bit D:
spies8broderick (10:11:41 PM): One of the group chats, she had about five/six repsonses in the span of the same timestamp. lol
spies8tina (10:11:45 PM): What does buthyna mean?
spies8tina (10:11:59 PM): Have never heard that one before.
spies8gabriel (10:12:02 PM): a reference to last season
spies8broderick (10:12:33 PM): Buthayna was thought of a spy, she was attempted to be exile for multiple episodes.
spies8tina (10:12:38 PM): Thought it was something like WFIOM that I was going to need to learn.
spies8lilith (10:12:44 PM): I would like to speak to Zek (Zed?) at the moment to get a read. But if I had to vote right now, the fact that a confirmed citizen strongly suspected him makes me want to vote him and the whole HQ thing, which I am currently thinking may be a mafia slip. But I don't want to be too centered on my thinking, I want to be open minded so I don't get focused in on someone wrong, lol.
spies8tina (10:13:17 PM): That is a good thing.
spies8broderick (10:13:37 PM): What about a confirmed citizen suspecting him, makes you want to vote him?
spies8lilith (10:14:33 PM): Well, right now, whoever I talk to has his or her suspscions on one person. But it could always being a mafia trying to mislead us. We know Savaanah was a citizen, so we know her suspcions are genuine and to me that means more than most people still alive, because whatever percentage of people still alive are mafia trying to misguide us, lol.
spies8lilith (10:14:43 PM): What percentage of people are usually spies in this series? lol
spies8broderick (10:14:54 PM): There are seven spies
spies8broderick (10:15:26 PM): Six alive
spies8broderick (10:15:41 PM): 21 citizens alive
spies8broderick (10:15:49 PM): That is wrong
spies8lilith (10:15:50 PM): 21??
spies8lilith (10:15:56 PM): I thought our team had 13, lol
spies8broderick (10:16:24 PM): 20 ctizens alive
spies8lilith (10:16:50 PM): oooo
spies8lilith (10:16:51 PM): citizzens
spies8lilith (10:16:54 PM): i thought u meant overall
spies8lilith (10:17:25 PM): and we get to exile 2, and they only kill 1 each round?
spies8broderick (10:17:30 PM): Haha nope. Thirty players started the game. 23 citizens and 7 spies. 3 citizens and 1 spy have gone.
spies8broderick (10:17:42 PM): Yes
spies8broderick (10:17:49 PM): Eventually the two teams will merge.
spies8tina (10:18:34 PM): It actually may be interesting if they did not.
spies8tina (10:18:50 PM): That would make for an odd game, but a fun one.
spies8lilith (10:19:04 PM): I would rather us merge, two different teams makes it odd. I was going to ask about someone they realized they were on the other team so there's really nothing I can do about that person or question them, etc., lol.
spies8broderick (10:19:07 PM): As long as there were spies on both teams.
spies8gabriel (10:20:01 PM): yeah... thats the odd bit.
spies8lilith (10:23:45 PM): For the spy kill it can be anyone from either team?
spies8broderick (10:24:07 PM): Though it would make connections between the spies a bit more difficult.
spies8themba (10:24:08 PM): yep
spies8lilith (10:24:17 PM): Interesting
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spies8themba (10:24:39 PM): Gotta give them a chance too
spies8broderick (10:48:31 PM): lol. All of the joke references to chance. Hard to not laugh when someone says chance but isn't talking about Chance.
spies8themba (10:51:02 PM): haha! well i gtg. i will talk to you all later
spies8broderick (10:55:30 PM): I think I'm gonna duck out too. Good Night.
