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[Gabriel]

Savannah

Savannah has been high on my list ever since she said this in chat last Thursday.



(07:07:30 PM) spies8tina: Has the lurker debate started yet?
(07:07:45 PM) spies8savannah: that would suck
(07:08:02 PM) spies8jenny: I don't think there's really been a need for that debate yet.
(07:08:26 PM) spies8tina: I just am assuming its an inevitable thing, and would rather get past it and down to actual spyhunting.
(07:09:10 PM) spies8tina: It just is a reasoning free move that really will not gather any information for us in the end, unless I am missing something major about it.
(07:09:56 PM) spies8gabriel: Its why lynch all lurkers is a bad policy, and even then sam does everything in his power to replace the character so... believe in sam!!
(07:10:12 PM) spies8savannah: well spies can be lurkers lol
(07:10:14 PM) spies8jenny: Agreed.
(07:10:16 PM) spies8savannah: but
(07:10:27 PM) spies8savannah: its probably NOT the best solution
(07:10:43 PM) spies8jenny: Yeah. If it seems like they're purposely hiding from stuff, then yes push at it.
(07:10:52 PM) spies8jenny: But just being quiet isn't really much of a reason to vote.
(07:10:53 PM) spies8tina: Well thats not really lurking.
(07:11:06 PM) spies8zedekiah: Sam will take care of lurker faster than we can for the most part
(07:11:39 PM) spies8tina: Right, just want to make sure thats something that we do not start confusing with what a good opening move is.
(07:12:25 PM) spies8savannah: i guess lurkers wind up getting lynched cause there really isnt much to go on the first round
(07:12:34 PM) spies8savannah: might as well get rid of someone not helping :\
(07:12:37 PM) spies8tina: That is a poor move though I think.
(07:12:50 PM) spies8savannah: i guess its better than falsely eliminating a good cit

i still maintain this is looking for any reason to vote an inactive.
in fact every time i talked to her about suspicions other tahn zed she immediately brought up kiara (who can be agreed to be an inactive) and allan (who isnt inactive but uh... is kinda in the background). i think she almost ignored the alexei case if what i saw elsewhere was any indication.

when asked about if zeke was the best lynch i got this out of her

(12:02:02 PM) spies8savannah: as of now im considering him
(12:02:06 PM) spies8savannah: not sure if hes the best atm

which if correct me if im wrong really makes me think she was keeping others in mind. it also makes me think she was looking at several likely citizen lynches, especially with how she tried to shift everything onto zeke right before exile and almost succeeded

also savannah had this to say when i first mentioned her name as a suspect in chat. correct me if im wrong but savannah hasnt done much but hop on every little thing that zeke's said right??/

(06:07:29 PM) spies8savannah: and he picked me?
(06:07:49 PM) spies8savannah: i find that odd lol no lie, considering i havent heard him mention my name before
(06:07:55 PM) spies8jenny: Yep, and we asked him why, and he said it was gut because of the part I just repasted.
(06:08:15 PM) spies8jenny: With the last line being what he thought of it.
(06:08:42 PM) spies8savannah: lmao
(06:09:01 PM) spies8savannah: clearly gabe hasnt been doing much scum hunting

this was sunday the 20th of june. she obvs had time to read the chat with alexei but she used the excuse just recently that she was away all day for fathers day and didnt have time to keep up.

(12:45:59 PM) spies8jenny: Hey Savanny, what did you think about the big chat last night from reading it?
(12:46:30 PM) spies8alexei: I may not be able to stay on long, I've gotta study for exams today
(12:46:45 PM) spies8tina: Can I get that part of the log I asked for at least?
(12:46:52 PM) spies8tina: My inbox is empty and sad.
(12:46:56 PM) spies8alexei: sure
(12:46:59 PM) spies8savannah: tbh it didnt really help my suspicions. im sitll very confused at what to do -_-

also savannah didnt do much last episode but mention zeke whenever the opprotunity was mentioned; i dont think i have much from her that openly discusses the Alexei case. she in fact got more frantic the closer to exile we got doing everything in her power to switch votes onto zeke, getting two (thembs and tina.)

or she would call me out on "so do you think zeke is town now?/" when i dont think i ever said that; all i said was i didnt think his stuff thursday was enough for a vote on him.

[Savannah]

Hi Gabbbbbbbbbe. Okay time for some responses!


1. i still maintain this is looking for any reason to vote an inactive.
in fact every time i talked to her about suspicions other tahn zed she immediately brought up kiara (who can be agreed to be an inactive) and allan (who isnt inactive but uh... is kinda in the background). i think she almost ignored the alexei case if what i saw elsewhere was any indication.

I'm not really sure what this has to do about my suspicions on Zek, and as I stated:

(07:10:16 PM) spies8savannah: but
(07:10:27 PM) spies8savannah: its probably NOT the best solution

No, I did not want to lynch an inactive, I was just giving it some thought. If I thought this, I would be jumping all over Kiara and Allan. Which I am not. I also have absolutely NO record of me bringing up either Kiara or Allan's name, so if you care to post that conversation it would be wonderful. I did not ignore the Alexei case either...I just thought that the Zek case was more suspicious.

I did bring up the Alexei case, however:

Tina and I before exile:

spies8tina (10:25:25 PM): Seriously, when was the last time ANYONE but me brought new stuff to light regarding that case.
spies8savannah (10:25:42 PM): the alexei case?
spies8tina (10:25:47 PM): Right.
spies8savannah (10:25:57 PM): i feel like people just wagoned it
spies8tina (10:25:59 PM): I think I am the only one actively pushing and questioning him nightly who is voting him
spies8savannah (10:25:59 PM):
spies8savannah (10:26:13 PM): thats one reason i wasnt confident with it
spies8savannah (10:26:14 PM): at all

Zed:

es8zedekiah (10:29:12 PM): Pardon me miss savannah, fer the sake of it, as someone who ain't on the bandwagon o' Alexei, what are yer last thoughts 'bout his alignment?
spies8savannah (10:29:39 PM): lol who knows, i think cit
spies8savannah (10:29:48 PM): could be a spy, but atm im leaning cit


I was never solid on him being town. Also, Gabriel, you never once mentioned the Alexei case to me I do not believe, so if you were curious on my stance I am not sure why you just didn't ask...


2. (12:02:02 PM) spies8savannah: as of now im considering him
(12:02:06 PM) spies8savannah: not sure if hes the best atm

which if correct me if im wrong really makes me think she was keeping others in mind. it also makes me think she was looking at several likely citizen lynches, especially with how she tried to shift everything onto zeke right before exile and almost succeeded

What date was this, Gabriel? I was keeping an open mind...I wasn't someone who just was like yeah Zed has to be a spy, if evidence that in my opinion was stronger I would have considered that and possibly changed my vote. It's never good to be 100% set on something, at any moment of time something could come up that makes you change your opinion.

Also: I didn't try to "shift anything" before exile. I got fustrated that Zed was continuting to make pointless remarks, as I stated, and I was wondering why no one was paying attention to it. I think Tina and Themba noticed what I meant however, which is why they changed their votes. It's not like I pushed them or anything, I was simply pointing out Zedekiah's actions.


3. also savannah had this to say when i first mentioned her name as a suspect in chat. correct me if im wrong but savannah hasnt done much but hop on every little thing that zeke's said right??/

(06:07:29 PM) spies8savannah: and he picked me?
(06:07:49 PM) spies8savannah: i find that odd lol no lie, considering i havent heard him mention my name before
(06:07:55 PM) spies8jenny: Yep, and we asked him why, and he said it was gut because of the part I just repasted.
(06:08:15 PM) spies8jenny: With the last line being what he thought of it.
(06:08:42 PM) spies8savannah: lmao
(06:09:01 PM) spies8savannah: clearly gabe hasnt been doing much scum hunting

I was just surprised as this was the first time my name was brought up.

Also this snipit:

savannah hasnt done much but hop on every little thing that zeke's said right??/

Is this past or present? Obviously I've been doing much more than that...I have made my suspicions know and open. Last episode, yeah Zed's strange wording were the basis of my votes. His explanation of his AIM dillemna was strange, and he continued to post gibberish and random remarks in the chatroom. He also didn't show any signs of scumhunting which was odd considering he was in the room on numerous occasions.

this was sunday the 20th of june. she obvs had time to read the chat with alexei but she used the excuse just recently that she was away all day for fathers day and didnt have time to keep up.

(12:45:59 PM) spies8jenny: Hey Savanny, what did you think about the big chat last night from reading it?
(12:46:30 PM) spies8alexei: I may not be able to stay on long, I've gotta study for exams today
(12:46:45 PM) spies8tina: Can I get that part of the log I asked for at least?
(12:46:52 PM) spies8tina: My inbox is empty and sad.
(12:46:56 PM) spies8alexei: sure
(12:46:59 PM) spies8savannah: tbh it didnt really help my suspicions. im sitll very confused at what to do -_-

I was away Saturday when the case was posted...which is what I said. I got back Sunday around 11ish which is around the time this chat took place. I was very confused as most of the evidence appeared while I was away and I needed time to read up and try to sort through it all.


4. also savannah didnt do much last episode but mention zeke whenever the opprotunity was mentioned; i dont think i have much from her that openly discusses the Alexei case. she in fact got more frantic the closer to exile we got doing everything in her power to switch votes onto zeke, getting two (thembs and tina.)

As mentioned...I got back Sunday around 11ish. The Alexei evidence sprouted up while I was gone so there wasn't clearly much mention from me about the case. I also had only one conversation with Alexei between the time I got back and exile, so it was difficult to try and piece together his stance with the evidence, in a pretty short amount of time [and I was out part of the afternoon]. As I already mentioned, I didn't get frantic, nor did I do everything in my power. How is pointing out Zeke's comments getting frantic--please explain to me.


5. or she would call me out on "so do you think zeke is town now?/" when i dont think i ever said that; all i said was i didnt think his stuff thursday was enough for a vote on him.

I'm kind of confused with what you are trying to say in the above, so please explain.


Hope this helppps. Feel free to ask for clarification.

~Vannah

[Stephanie]

[21:30] spies8savannah: okay zed
[21:30] spies8Nita: But he ain't postin nothin so why should I change my vote?
[21:30] spies8savannah: see my point
[21:30] spies8savannah: POSTING USELESS INFORMATION
[21:30] spies8hambone: ya
[21:30] spies8savannah: and somehow
[21:30] spies8savannah: no one finds this supicious
[21:30] spies8savannah: like i feel like im talking to a wall half the time
[21:30] spies8savannah: x_______x
...
[21:31] spies8savannah: okay and this happens every chat...
[21:31] spies8Nita: I see what you're sayin now
[21:32] spies8savannah: tina you constantly say that
[21:32] spies8savannah: but doing absolutely nothing
[21:32] spies8savannah: is a big
[21:32] spies8savannah: FLASHING LIGHT
...
[21:33] spies8savannah: that yall came up with this alexei case after zed was in major hot water
[21:34] spies8themba: you don't think his lay-down approach is a little suss sav?
[21:34] spies8savannah: lol its not as suspicious as zed not having contributed anything
[21:34] spies8tina: Actually, I brought up Alexei spy almost immediately after his first posts.
[21:34] spies8savannah: and admitting to saying useless things

Above is the chat right before exile. I'll let everyone characterize it as frantic, or not frantic for themselves. It did seem to me that you were pushing pretty hard for Z, Savannah. And I think that pushing for your suspects is a good thing, but some of this doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Themba points out Alexei's lay down and die approach and you respond that Z is more suspicious cause he hasn't done anything? And says useless stuff? Girl, I could make that case on most of the burg, including myself and you. I certainly tried to make it on Dane.

[Savannah]

Well at the time I was thinking at least Alexei was doing crap. Zed was still posting gibberish and not scumhunting. Maybe that was wrong of me...but I was just upset with Zed getting away with posting crap and no one really questioning it.

[Nita]

I have a bunch of suspects for this exile, ain't picked one out yet. This as good as any to outline the suspicious things I see Savannah do.


Uno: Gabriel's point: Savannah fence sittin on lurkers

See the clip he post in his first post. She start out sayin she no wanna exile lurkers, ends keepin her options open


Dos: Some fact checkin

Saturday afternoon I talk to Savannah y tell her what I ended up postin in the burg, the suspicious things I observe bout Alexei.

spies8Nita: So the hombre exaggerates, he don't know details, he don't question his suspects, and he no get the facts right
spies8Nita: Sounds like a spy no?
spies8Nita: So I'm wonderin if he is
spies8Savannah: possibly but i think he might just be looking for leads?
spies8Nita: How he lookin for leads if he not askin nothin?
spies8Savannah: true :\
spies8Savannah: kind of like trying to pull things out of thin air lol
spies8Nita: Si, that's what I think
spies8Savannah: its worth checking up on

She check up on it with Alexei o other players? No.


Another reason why Savannah say she vote Zedekiah, not Alexei, from last night public chat:

spies8Savannah: it wasnt all that he said. alexei had at least posted suspicions and was talking about his ideas.
spies8Savannah: zed had posted nothing at the time
spies8Savannah: and was talking gibberish in the chats.
spies8Savannah: i thought that was warrant enough for my vote toward alexei.
spies8Savannah: zed*

Let's do some goin back, si?

Savannah say Alexei postin suspicions. I go back y Alexei make one post with suspicions: day before exile, late evenin, he say he votin Dane.

Savannah say Zedekiah ain't postin suspicions. I go back y Zedekiah make one post with suspicions too: day before exile, early evenin, he say he votin Allan. Same as Alexei.

Savannah say Alexei talkin bout his ideas. Cept I prove to her that his ideas be lies, exaggerations, y factually wrong. She also say she only talk to him a little, so what ideas she talkin bout?

Savannah sayin Zedekiah talkin gibberish. That be the reputation the hombre got but really it ain't all he do.

Maybe Savannah exaggeratin how Alexei play the game y underminin Zedekiah.


Tres: Savannah prefers liars

This really gets me, from the group chat:
spies8Nita: So you read the case, you see the argument that the suspicions y ideas Alexei postin be lies, mistakes, y exaggerations
spies8Savannah: yep
spies8Savannah: but i say to myself
spies8Nita: Y you still think that's better, more townlike, than Zed y his gibberish?
spies8Savannah: hey he posted something
spies8Savannah: zed didnt even post anything
spies8Savannah: really

When is lyin ever better than postin somethin? Alexei proven to be a liar, Savannah say she know that, y she still votin Zedekiah because bein silly is worse than lyin.


Cuatro: Savannah tryin to push people onto Zedekiah at the chat right before exile

I think she panickin. Stephanie post it above.

[Savannah]

Here Nita:


Saturday afternoon I talk to Savannah y tell her what I ended up postin in the burg, the suspicious things I observe bout Alexei.

spies8Nita: So the hombre exaggerates, he don't know details, he don't question his suspects, and he no get the facts right
spies8Nita: Sounds like a spy no?
spies8Nita: So I'm wonderin if he is
spies8Savannah: possibly but i think he might just be looking for leads?
spies8Nita: How he lookin for leads if he not askin nothin?
spies8Savannah: true :\
spies8Savannah: kind of like trying to pull things out of thin air lol
spies8Nita: Si, that's what I think
spies8Savannah: its worth checking up on

She check up on it with Alexei o other players? No.

Saturday afternoon Nita? I already stated I left Saturday afternoon, sorry that I was packing and didn't have alot of time to check up on Saturday. And I did talk with Alexei on Sunday, as I stated. Didn't really give me a ton of time, though.

Another reason why Savannah say she vote Zedekiah, not Alexei, from last night public chat:

spies8Savannah: it wasnt all that he said. alexei had at least posted suspicions and was talking about his ideas.
spies8Savannah: zed had posted nothing at the time
spies8Savannah: and was talking gibberish in the chats.
spies8Savannah: i thought that was warrant enough for my vote toward alexei.
spies8Savannah: zed*

Let's do some goin back, si?

Savannah say Alexei postin suspicions. I go back y Alexei make one post with suspicions: day before exile, late evenin, he say he votin Dane.

Savannah say Zedekiah ain't postin suspicions. I go back y Zedekiah make one post with suspicions too: day before exile, early evenin, he say he votin Allan. Same as Alexei.

Savannah say Alexei talkin bout his ideas. Cept I prove to her that his ideas be lies, exaggerations, y factually wrong. She also say she only talk to him a little, so what ideas she talkin bout?

Savannah sayin Zedekiah talkin gibberish. That be the reputation the hombre got but really it ain't all he do.

Maybe Savannah exaggeratin how Alexei play the game y underminin Zedekiah.

Lmao, I'm undermining Zed? I'm sorry that I didn't see anything logical posted...is that just me? Also, I didn't see Alexei posting gibberish in the chats--that def. worked in his favor.


Tres: Savannah prefers liars

This really gets me, from the group chat:
spies8Nita: So you read the case, you see the argument that the suspicions y ideas Alexei postin be lies, mistakes, y exaggerations
spies8Savannah: yep
spies8Savannah: but i say to myself
spies8Nita: Y you still think that's better, more townlike, than Zed y his gibberish?
spies8Savannah: hey he posted something
spies8Savannah: zed didnt even post anything
spies8Savannah: really

When is lyin ever better than postin somethin? Alexei proven to be a liar, Savannah say she know that, y she still votin Zedekiah because bein silly is worse than lyin.

I don't endorse lying and that really wasn't something I was thinking about at the time of voting. Maybe I should have been thinking about Alexei and his lies, but at the time I was thinking about the gibberish and comments I was seeing. Also, citizens have been known to lie in the past. Not sure why, but it's not something that's never been seen before.

Cuatro: Savannah tryin to push people onto Zedekiah at the chat right before exile

I think she panickin. Stephanie post it above.

I'm still confused how I tried pushing people...which I have already explained my logic. Zed pushed people himself. Just because I pointed out his actions doesn't mean I pushed anyone. It would be different if I crafted some outlandish or flouncy case, but I did no such thing.

[Owen]

In addition to what's been posted, here are some of my concerns about Ms. Savannah.

- Disregards Zed's attempt at hunting/giving input:

spies8Nita: So what you all think of Zedekiah? Spy o no?
spies8Stephanie: he's still on my watch list, but i am leaning cit
spies8Jenny: He leans spy enough to me that I wouldn't mind voting him.
spies8Themba: Spy
spies8Gabriel: im thinking cit.
spies8Owen: I'm not closing the door on it because of some of the things he's said -- and the voting situation is still a bit confusing to me.
spies8Savannah: why does it make you question me, gabriel
spies8Savannah: to be honest his post didnt show anything note worthy
spies8Owen: But I don't believe I'll be voting for him. A big thing I was worried about was his lack of input, but his post was solid.
spies8Gabriel: because i want to hear more on why exactly you think some of his statements are superficial
spies8Savannah: i think any one could have made those assumptions
spies8Themba: exactly.
spies8Nita: Por ejemplo? Example?
spies8Themba: there was nothing groundbreaking in his thread.
spies8Nita: Goin through what the hombre say
spies8Owen: I wasn't expecting anything groundbreaking. Tell me who has offered groundbreaking information?
spies8Themba: Alexei.
spies8Owen: SO TRUE.
spies8Nita: Good one
spies8Themba: < Win.
spies8Savannah: i can give examples if you want, just tell which of his bullets
spies8Savannah: every single on of them is superficial and can be described as such -_-


Coming from someone who hasn't had many original thoughts of her own, at least from what I've seen, this bothers me. It also concerns me that two of the people most questioned in Zed's thread are the ones that have the biggest issues with it.

If anyone else feels like Zed's thread was completely useless and seemed un-genuine, speak up or forever hold your peace.

- Likes to present new targets.

Examples:
- slight fence-sitting about lynching lurkers.
- quick to agree with Gabe about the busing of Alexei. Was this mentioned to anyone BEFORE Gabe brought it up?
- looking at the biggest targets as her top suspects. Could obviously be coincidental
- [23:54] spies8savannah: lmao i feel like im kind of being the target of this when i was not the only one to vote for zed nor be the only onesuspicious of him. -- MORE TARGETS.

Creating tons of targets, quick to take suspicion off of herself and throw it right onto others instead of convincing us of her innocence -- these can definitely be traits of (selfish) town looking out only for themselves, but they're also things that concern me. As Zed said, the spies objective is to eliminate town -- the more targets out there for the spies to take out, the better. (FOR the spies, not the town)

I know this is nothing ground-breaking, but trust me, these aren't superficial thoughts. You're making my scumdar ping a bit.

[Savannah]

Hi Owen!

Responses:

Disregards Zed's attempt at hunting/giving input

spies8Nita: So what you all think of Zedekiah? Spy o no?
spies8Stephanie: he's still on my watch list, but i am leaning cit
spies8Jenny: He leans spy enough to me that I wouldn't mind voting him.
spies8Themba: Spy
spies8Gabriel: im thinking cit.
spies8Owen: I'm not closing the door on it because of some of the things he's said -- and the voting situation is still a bit confusing to me.
spies8Savannah: why does it make you question me, gabriel
spies8Savannah: to be honest his post didnt show anything note worthy
spies8Owen: But I don't believe I'll be voting for him. A big thing I was worried about was his lack of input, but his post was solid.
spies8Gabriel: because i want to hear more on why exactly you think some of his statements are superficial
spies8Savannah: i think any one could have made those assumptions
spies8Themba: exactly.
spies8Nita: Por ejemplo? Example?
spies8Themba: there was nothing groundbreaking in his thread.
spies8Nita: Goin through what the hombre say
spies8Owen: I wasn't expecting anything groundbreaking. Tell me who has offered groundbreaking information?
spies8Themba: Alexei.
spies8Owen: SO TRUE.
spies8Nita: Good one
spies8Themba: < Win.
spies8Savannah: i can give examples if you want, just tell which of his bullets
spies8Savannah: every single on of them is superficial and can be described as such -_-

Coming from someone who hasn't had many original thoughts of her own, at least from what I've seen, this bothers me. It also concerns me that two of the people most questioned in Zed's thread are the ones that have the biggest issues with it.

If anyone else feels like Zed's thread was completely useless and seemed un-genuine, speak up or forever hold your peace.

Themba did agree with me last night. I will say that I did go back and look over Zed's points, and I am happy that he has attempted to do scum hunting. I admit I was kind of critical about him. I agree with his point about Themba, so it is my fault for being so stern. My apology.

Also: I haven't had many thoughts of my own? Not sure what you mean by this...I have brought up my suspicions and they are all varied. So yeah. Sorry if other people feel a similar way. :\


Examples:
- slight fence-sitting about lynching lurkers.
- quick to agree with Gabe about the busing of Alexei. Was this mentioned to anyone BEFORE Gabe brought it up?
- looking at the biggest targets as her top suspects. Could obviously be coincidental
- [23:54] spies8savannah: lmao i feel like im kind of being the target of this when i was not the only one to vote for zed nor be the only onesuspicious of him. -- MORE TARGETS.

1. I explained the lynching lurkers thing, and I said I would not suggest doing it. Can't help you there.

2. I think it is possible that Alexei was bussed (as do other people...) but I'm not saying he was.

3. The biggest targets are my top suspects? I wasn't aware there were any "big targets" Owen, care to fill us in?

4. It is the truth, I'm not bringing up any more targets lol. Just stating the fact.

Creating tons of targets, quick to take suspicion off of herself and throw it right onto others instead of convincing us of her innocence -- these can definitely be traits of (selfish) town looking out only for themselves, but they're also things that concern me. As Zed said, the spies objective is to eliminate town -- the more targets out there for the spies to take out, the better. (FOR the spies, not the town)

I didn't create a ton of targets...at all. Very confused what you mean there. I'm just saying if you think one of the Zed voters was a spy, then you should look at all the suspects. Which has been happening.

[Owen]

3. The biggest targets are my top suspects? I wasn't aware there were any "big targets" Owen, care to fill us in?

Zed - Was gang-raped in chat and possibly set up as a first lynch by the Spies. As you saw, Alexei pushed hard on him. Big target on his back.

Themba - The popular name going around since the first Exile ended. Big target on her back.

It could be coincidental that your top suspects are the ones with the most heat on them, and in that case, you could have just said that.

[Savannah]

Zed I wouldn't say is a "top suspect" of mine atm. I am leaning Themba, Stephanie, Jenny and Zed still...but I wouldn't consider him a "top suspect". I pretty much think of all my suspects on the same level atm.

[Dane]

Just adding my say in here, still have about 15 tabs of new material from tonight to go through -_-

1. Veldt, you just got moved up my suspicion list and into my top 3, moving Lord Zed down to #4.

2. Just gotta say, I agree that most of what Zed posted was not groundbreaking, had been covered previously, or was obvious. Or false. Or dumb. Just saying.

3. Definitely gotta agree that you seem to try to diffuse suspicion among as many different people as you can.

[Savannah]

Jun 24, 2010 1:31:59 GMT -6 Dane said:

Just adding my say in here, still have about 15 tabs of new material from tonight to go through -_-

1. Veldt, you just got moved up my suspicion list and into my top 3, moving Lord Zed down to #4.

Is this based on what has been discussed here or other suspicions? Also: I would like to know how I am trying to diffuse suspicion, lol? I'm not accusing anyone like I said...I just said each person that voted for Zed (who still could be a spy...) is at fault.