Going after a POTENTIAL (we dont even know there IS one) busser right now is a very bad move because there are people that voted poorly last week AND people that are very suspicious right now.
I think what Nita might be trying to say (please correct me if im wrong chica), and I know me and Owen were talkin about this last night, is that it's just a horrible move right now to go after someone who voted for a Spy because if we all did lynch said person, then there's still a huge chance that we just killed an innocent Citizen who was helping us.
If Dane were here right now he'd shout "GO AFTER THE SUSPICIOUS PEOPLE. THE END!!" so thats what we gotta do.
I have to go to work now but I will post approx. 3 cases later... On Z, Themba, and Jenny.
How do you know we voted poorly?
Moving on.
This, and a little of what the rest of the gang had discussed in the suspicions thread, is why I changed to Alexei:
22:26] spies8owen: What points of Steph's did you agree with about Dane?
[22:27] spies8owen: That's for you, Alexei (if there was any confusion)
[22:27] spies8alexei: it's not the fact that he was looking at the dem's board that I think he is a spy, it's the fact that he was supposedly focused on one player on the dem's side that gets me suspicious
[22:28] spies8owen: Ahh, gotcha.
[22:28] spies8themba: spies8tina (5:52:40 PM):Can you summarize that case for me?spies8alexei (5:52:52 PM):it's what steph told me[22:28] spies8gabriel: uh where was he focused on cory? also looking at the dems boards leads me to think that cory wwas never really that in that much a danger of being exiled so if thats why...
[22:28] spies8themba: so i am assuming you agree with all of steph's argument?[22:30] spies8alexei: no.
[22:31] spies8alexei: the one where she said Dane didn't know who was on our team this morning. I was there for that chat, so I heard him ask.
[22:31] spies8alexei: amazingly enough to you guys, I disagree with the one that he looks at the dem's board
[22:32] spies8alexei: it's the fact that he was focsued on one player in them that made me suspicious.
[22:32] spies8alexei: and the quick-lynch on you, themba, I agree with as well
[22:32] spies8themba: so why would you say to tina then that you agree with all of it? as in it's what she told you?
[22:32] spies8themba: yeah that was shit. but look at all the discussion out of it![22:33] spies8alexei: reading it, I can see she asked me to summarize the argument
[22:33] spies8alexei: which I did
[22:33] spies8alexei: I didn't say I agreed with all of it
[22:34] spies8themba: well, to me 'it's what jen said' kinda makes me think you did agree with all of her points. as if you didn't agree with one or more, i'd assume that you'd say so. [22:34] spies8themba: but i may be wrong.
[22:34] spies8themba: * steph - not jen. sorry ladies1[22:35] spies8alexei: again, that was a summary of the argument, what Steph told me is the summary
[22:35] spies8alexei: I don't agree with everything there
[22:35] spies8themba: ok[22:35] spies8alexei: is that clear? Or should I try to explain it better?
[22:36] spies8themba: nope. clear for me tyvm.[22:36] spies8alexei: ok, that's good
[22:36] spies8stephanie: i've gotta run for a bit -- sry, i hate to miss anything bbl
[22:36] spies8stephanie: has left the chat
[22:37] spies8alexei: bye
[22:37] spies8alexei: so, themba, your conclusions?
[22:37] spies8alexei: I won't take offense to it at all, I know the nature of this game
[22:38] spies8themba: I don't have any solid conclusions about it right now. What I do know though is:
[22:38] spies8themba: My vote will be taken off Dane for the moment and put on Alexei for the following reasons:[22:38] spies8alexei: ok
[22:39] spies8themba: 1) The Dane / inno comment. 2) The possible sheeping of Steph's ideas to make an opposing bandwagon on Dane. [22:39] spies8alexei: ok, I understand
[22:39] spies8themba: That's all I have at the moment. It is subject to change. But as much as I think Dane is silly, I am not as convinced he's Maffy as I am convinced you are. [22:39] spies8alexei: thank you, Themba
[22:39] spies8themba: np
[22:41] spies8alexei: and, I'm not sure how I can convince you otherwise without saying everything I have ever said over again, so all I'll say on the matter is this:
[22:41] spies8alexei: half of my case depends entirely on Zed
[22:42] spies8zedekiah: why me?
[22:42] spies8themba: i am happy to hear it all.
[22:42] spies8alexei: because it's how I responded to your case and what I said in it, not you personally
[22:43] spies8alexei: also, I am not the only one who didn't speak for a good portion of it
[22:43] spies8zedekiah: so it's all final tomorrow at 10 central?
[22:44] spies8zedekiah: we all really need t' have our say soon then
[22:44] spies8gabriel: yep.
[22:44] spies8alexei: yeah
[22:45] spies8jenny: On the good side, we had about 11 of us on earlier.
[22:45] spies8jenny:
[22:45] spies8alexei: yeah
[22:46] spies8themba: Jenny, I'd like to hear your thoughts, if you wouldn't mind. Are you still planning on voting Zed?
[22:46] spies8gabriel: yeah honestly; I'd still have liked a more... civil meeting earlier
[22:46] spies8alexei: it could have been more civil
[22:46] spies8alexei: in fact, it was until dane showed up...
[22:46] spies8gabriel: as it stood all the going back and forth between alexei, dane, and steph kinda turned me off from wawtching
[22:48] spies8jenny: Just saw your question, sorry. Yeah I'll probably stick with Zeddy for now (sorry Zeddy )
[22:48] spies8themba: Cool. TY.
[22:49] spies8alexei: I don't know what to say
[22:49] spies8zedekiah: eh, I guess if ya think me guiltyish
[22:49] spies8jenny: Day one just stinks sometimes.
[22:49] spies8themba: Is Rondak here?
[22:49] spies8alexei: If it turns out it is the end for me tonight, I want you to know it has been an honour playing with you all
[22:49] spies8jenny: I think so.
[22:50] spies8alexei: and even when I'm dead, I will follow the game to see how it plays out
[22:50] spies8zedekiah: you'd know jenny, yer the one on first off last, inviting everyone it's amazin'!
[22:50] spies8jenny: Well that's good. The spectators like having players stick around.
[22:51] spies8themba: I'd love to hear from Rondak too. Haven't had a chance to hear many of his thoughts.
[22:51] spies8jenny: Well how else can I be a good stenographer for the room, right?
[22:51] spies8gabriel: aww thanks Alexei!! and i feel the same regardless of whatever your alignment, even if i think youre a spy
[22:51] spies8alexei: I appreciate it, dane
[22:51] spies8alexei: er.. Gabe
[22:52] spies8alexei: wow, I fail
[22:52] spies8themba: Yeah that is a nice thing to say Alexei, all the best if you do go.
[22:52] spies8gabriel: and if you are a spy we'll make sure more of your buddies join you so youre not all lonely in the spy ll!!!
[22:52] spies8jenny: LOL
[22:52] spies8alexei: lol
[22:52] spies8jenny: Preferably 6 buddies to play with.
[22:54] spies8alexei: Also, I hope you understand that I am not taking any of this personally, and I do not blame you or think any less of any of you. I know the nature of this game, and if I took everything seriously, no one would play with me. I appreciate your honesty, and I hope that one day I will get to play with all of you again one day
[22:55] spies8alexei: and with that, I have to leave. Goodbye, my friends, for perhaps the last time
[22:56] spies8zedekiah: ya ain't comin to chat before exile?
[22:56] spies8zedekiah: bye
[22:56] spies8themba: Bye Alexei
[22:56] spies8gabriel: bye!!
[22:56] spies8gabriel: come see us before exile. D:
[22:58] spies8alexei: I will, of course, I forgot about that
[22:58] spies8alexei: until then
[22:58] spies8alexei: I bid you farewell]
[22:58] spies8jenny: Have a good night!
[22:58] spies8alexei: you too
[22:59] spies8alexei: and, once again, I appreciate your honesty.
[22:59] spies8alexei: has left the chat
[22:59] spies8themba: did he just admit to being a spy? or was that just me? [22:59] spies8jenny: I don't think so.
[23:00] spies8jenny: I think he was just semi-depressed about possibly being the first gone.
[23:00] spies8jenny: I know I would be.
[23:00] spies8themba: true. but i reckon he is and did.