No Exile...?

[Themba]

Hi all,

Seeming as every one is offline atm, I thought I'd jot down some thoughts about voting a No Vote in the upcoming Exile. I don't know if this option has been used in previous series of Spies, however I think we should at least consider it, as Sam does nothing without a purpose in this game.

Good things:
1) It doesn't appear that every one has signed in for the game yet, or at least into our Republican pages. If people vote for someone who is away, they may be exiling an important role.
2) There have been a few problems with AIM and there doesn't seem to have been much discussion between Republicans yet. This gives us very little information to work of off, and with Spies amongst us, the chances of voting off a Citizen increase.
3) A No Exile will give us more time to filter information and gather thoughts.
4) The information about those who do not agree and vote a to Exile may come in handy later down the road.
5) Voting someone off who has a role would be the shittest thing to happen in the very first Exile. I would assume those who do have roles will be looking for people they assume to be Citizen to trust and share their information with - this may give them a little bit more time to do just that.
6) It may lull some spies into a false sense of security and they may relax a little.

Bad things:
1) It may be indicative of absolutely nothing in terms of Citizen/Spy alliance.
2) We may miss an opportunity to eliminate a Spy if there is a general agreeance within the group.
3) If every one votes a No Exile, it will not give us an indication of people's alliances further into the game.
4) If people know it's going to be a No Vote, they may decide 'Meh, why scumhunt this Episode?'

I'd like to hear every one's thoughts should they choose to share them.

[Nita]

We got 3 more days before we gotta vote someone out, so I think it's too early to be talkin about this no exile stuff. Your last point is the most important, muneca. No exile this early's like sayin "I give up" for the rest of the episode.

The thing Nita here's havin a hard time with is how to start talkin about the game, cause all I know how to do is to chat, ask bout stories bout families and life. Any advice on how to do this would be excelente.

[Themba]

Hmmm... Well looking at the Group Chat Jen's just logged, it seems like they got started by talking about food and it flowed from there. Talking about basic stuff is good to start with anyway IMO - allows you to get a 'feel' for the person.

PS -
The chat gets interesting about halfway down (21:05) when Jen quizzes Zede.

[Nita]

Si, yo lo veo, I saw that. Gonna post a recap in the chat thread so maybe that will help people talk bout the game, but I dunno what else to do or what to ask so early.

[Hambone]

If voting "no exile" is our best option, meaning we have no suspicions of other people as a group consensus, then we should do that. But like Nita chica chica just said, we've still got 2 days, so something might still happen that's significant (I read over the Zed thing and I srsly don't know what to think of it, lolol)

[Allan]

I do not agree with a "No Exile." At least taking a stab in the dark... we can get lucky. Regardless we'll learn something, and we won't keep wondering about "so and so"

[Jenny]

Jun 18, 2010 13:25:14 GMT -6 Allan said:

I do not agree with a "No Exile." At least taking a stab in the dark... we can get lucky. Regardless we'll learn something, and we won't keep wondering about "so and so"

Agreed. If we don't exile anyone, we'll be right back where we started next time, with no new information, and more time for the spies to kill us.

[Savannah]

I'm hoping the point doesn't come down to where "No Exile" would be an option, but if so it probably isn't such a good idea. I mean this pretty much guarantees a spy to have a free ride for a round--not cool!!

[Dane]

Episode 1 We exile. The End. And you are Suspicious for suggesting to do otherwise.

[Hambone]

oh ok I just asked a question about this in another thread, but i understand now. but there is a chance that our stab in the dark will kill a good citizen with a role!

[Nita]

Cept we ain't lookin just for a person to kill Hambone. We're looking for liars and manipulators and people usin bad logic and people leadin everyone astray. So it ain't just stabbin, there's a method to who you exile.

[Dane]

Yo muscle, the POINT of this thread is so no one gets voted out by surprise. By sunday, the person who is getting voted out will know, and theyll have time to claim their role. Remember, there IS a doctor, so outing your role isn't a death sentence.

[Hambone]

Danish,

Yeah I definitely agree that we should voice our votes and not just vote randomly and DEFINITELY not vote without telling everyone who we are voting for and WHY. but right now we dont have a good candidate to lynch so we just have to keep talking to each other until someone cracks or snaps or whatever.

P.S. im still deciding whether or not im going to allow u to call me muscle, danish

[Bizarrondak]

Greetings.

I, too, agree that a no exile would be very unfortunate. As citizens and adventurers, it is necessary that we move this adventure forward rather than stalling like a mage without a spellbook. Our best chance is to exile the most suspicious, and wish for the best. Even if incorrect, at least, as other adventurers have echoed, we will be able to cross that name off our list.

We still do have time to decide on our exile. Nearly two days. Hopefully, we will discover more as we continue this investigation. I look forward to discussing with my fellow adventurers this evening.

Godspeed. And a especially fond farewell to the beautiful lasses.

[Alexei]

I, too, agree that No Exile would be a very bad move to make. Even if we get a villager, it still brings us a step closer. No Exile leaves us right where we were before, uninformed and no progress being made. I also agree that we need to voice our votes and state why we are doing so, but No Exile is not the answer.

[Owen]

No, Marcus. No.

As I told a few of you on AIM, I'm very opposed to a no-lynch. Personally, I'd rather have a cold sore... no offense, Mary.

The main reason as to why we shouldn't do this has been mentioned already, and it's the fact that we'd be in the exact same position as we're in right now, but perhaps down a member via imprisonment. Even if we mislynch, that'll give us more to go off of than just simply postponing things for a round.

Don't blame you for throwing some discussion out there though.