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Post by Stephanie on Aug 4, 2010 8:41:26 GMT -6
My conversations with B-Larry seem a little lack-luster:
Conversation with spies8lawrence at 8/3/2010 9:45:44 AM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(9:45:44 AM) spies8lawrence: Good morning my dear Stephanie
(9:45:58 AM) spies8stephanie: gm
(9:46:07 AM) spies8lawrence: How are you?
(9:46:19 AM) spies8stephanie: still in shock
(9:46:31 AM) spies8lawrence: I know, it's hard to believe.
(9:56:10 AM) spies8lawrence: DId you ever back up why you support Hambone over Jasmine?
(9:56:24 AM) spies8stephanie: Jasmine would vote for me
(9:56:40 AM) spies8lawrence: So it is a matter of self-preservation?
(9:58:11 AM) spies8stephanie: well i might be for hambone anyway, but when i am number 1 on jasmine's susp list; it becomes a no-brainer for me
(9:58:53 AM) spies8lawrence: So, if you weren't number one on Jasmines suspect list, you would still support Hambone?
(9:59:06 AM) spies8stephanie: probably
(9:59:27 AM) spies8stephanie: but would have to think harder on it
(9:59:45 AM) spies8stephanie: everyone seems to think that jasmine is a cit because of her interactions with isaac
(10:00:20 AM) spies8lawrence: That is what I was about to ask you about
(10:00:29 AM) spies8lawrence: Do you think it is a distancing ploy?
(10:00:42 AM) spies8stephanie: jasmine/isaac?
(10:00:52 AM) spies8lawrence: Yes
(10:01:25 AM) spies8stephanie: it didn't really seem like it at the time, but i need to look at it again
(10:02:25 AM) spies8stephanie: what do you think?
(10:03:03 AM) spies8lawrence: From what I have heard, it seems unlikely, though possible
(10:05:37 AM) spies8stephanie: and i'm second guessing myself about everything after jenny flipped
(10:06:03 AM) spies8lawrence: Fair enough, second guessing never hurts, and that was quite the shocking event.
(10:09:35 AM) spies8stephanie: and i'm not sure about hambone
(10:10:03 AM) spies8stephanie: he's been on jenny so long...i am not sure if he has anyone else on his list or not
(10:10:40 AM) spies8stephanie: i actually think he could step up and do some spy-hunting
(10:11:16 AM) spies8lawrence: It shall be interesting to observe his behavior now that the person he has been tunnelling on is gone.
(10:11:22 AM) spies8lawrence: We should be able to learn some things.
(10:20:11 AM) spies8stephanie: do you know why chance voted rondak?
(10:20:19 AM) spies8lawrence: No
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Post by Stephanie on Aug 4, 2010 8:42:29 GMT -6
Conversation with spies8broderick at 8/3/2010 10:17:46 AM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(10:18:00 AM) spies8stephanie: hi chef
(10:18:08 AM) spies8broderick: Hey Steph
(10:18:24 AM) spies8stephanie: i was looking again at the votes from last night
(10:18:36 AM) spies8stephanie: chance voted rondak?
(10:18:51 AM) spies8stephanie: and neither jenny nor hambone voted?
(10:19:14 AM) spies8broderick: they were in the HoR
(10:19:27 AM) spies8stephanie: oh of course
(10:19:28 AM) spies8stephanie: duh
(10:19:55 AM) spies8stephanie: what was up with chance?
(10:21:17 AM) spies8stephanie: he was protecting jenny earlier..so maybe that makes sense
(10:21:43 AM) spies8broderick: I dunno.
(10:28:56 AM) spies8broderick: We need a spy to be exiled
(10:29:31 AM) spies8stephanie: desperately
(10:31:14 AM) spies8broderick: mmhmm.
(10:33:47 AM) spies8broderick: Who or what are you thinking currently?
(10:33:55 AM) spies8broderick: btw. Jasmine posting when it doesn't count is kind of funny
(10:35:04 AM) spies8stephanie: i really feel like i am starting from scratch
(10:36:25 AM) spies8stephanie: yesterday i was thinking jenny, kiara and 2 of dane, rondak, larry
(10:36:38 AM) spies8stephanie: with maybe jasmine, claude, hambone as backups
(10:36:53 AM) spies8stephanie: but after flip, kiara is looking better
(10:36:59 AM) spies8stephanie: dane is looking better
(10:38:28 AM) spies8stephanie: gert's imprisonment still makes it look like a spy was in on her secret
(10:38:28 AM) spies8broderick: Why do they look better?
(10:39:01 AM) spies8stephanie: kiara i thought was lying about awohali's role, but now it's clear that she wasn't
(10:39:18 AM) spies8stephanie: dane i thought was jenny's spy partner
(10:39:33 AM) spies8stephanie: but that's not the case
(10:39:50 AM) spies8stephanie: they could both still be spies, but part of the case against them has evaporated
(10:41:27 AM) spies8broderick: Yeah. I dont think neither are cleared. Kiara didn't even believe her own role usage.
(10:42:53 AM) spies8broderick: If both or either one are citizens, their actions are getting in the way of a cit-read
(10:42:54 AM) spies8stephanie: and kiara knew about gert's role
(10:43:24 AM) spies8broderick: Did you say anything before 'and kiara knew' and after I said 'yeah. I dont' ?
(10:43:30 AM) spies8broderick: Seems my internet dropped
(10:44:14 AM) spies8stephanie: (10:42:53 AM) spies8broderick: If both or either one are citizens, their actions are getting in the way of a cit-read
(10:42:54 AM) spies8stephanie: and kiara knew about gert's role
(10:44:19 AM) spies8stephanie: is what i saw
(10:44:25 AM) spies8broderick: oh ok
(10:45:21 AM) spies8stephanie: what do you think about claude?
(10:45:53 AM) spies8stephanie: the first time he didn't use his role, he told me that he just forgot
(10:46:07 AM) spies8stephanie: i don't have a clue about this time
(10:46:16 AM) spies8broderick: I think he is a possible spy. I've never seen him as a total cit, even with his role which isnt necessarily a cit role.
(10:46:48 AM) spies8broderick: His behavior is just.. deplorable. I think he actually gave an answer when I asked him last episode towards the beginning.
(10:46:57 AM) spies8broderick: Yeah, I asked him if he blocked Jenny.
(10:47:05 AM) spies8broderick: He was pretty much like 'why?'
(10:47:15 AM) spies8broderick: I dont see why he would simply not answer your question
(10:48:45 AM) spies8stephanie: i am still wondering about his role...is there some part of it that we don't know about that has prevented him from using it?
(10:49:56 AM) spies8broderick: Maybe. I've questioned whether or not he has told the whole truth the whole time
(10:54:42 AM) spies8stephanie: ep 2 he took chance's vote away completely
(10:55:11 AM) spies8stephanie: and then he wouldn't let chance vote for him and who else?
(10:55:39 AM) spies8stephanie: and then he targeted allan, and then owen
(10:56:20 AM) spies8stephanie: nvm -- i was thinking out loud
(11:00:48 AM) spies8broderick: There is a list in the 'jazzy suspecting claude' thread
(11:01:14 AM) spies8stephanie: i was trying to link it to spies being exiled but that didn't work anyway
(11:01:16 AM) spies8stephanie: thanks
(11:03:41 AM) spies8stephanie: so who or what are you thinking these days?
(11:04:55 AM) spies8broderick: Cinnamyn is probably my number one. After that it gets really muddled. dane/rondak/mary/claude/kiara/lawrence
(11:06:38 AM) spies8stephanie: part of the reason i was suspicious of cinn was because she switched off jenny and voted awohali
(11:06:48 AM) spies8stephanie: but that doesn't make sense anymore
(11:06:57 AM) spies8stephanie: why do you have her number 1?
(11:08:50 AM) spies8broderick: Well I think that she votes by popular name. She had hopped off Awohali by exile 6. She then hopped back on him when his name was popular. Her reasoning for getting of getting back on him is the same reason she went off him in the first place. She did similar hop with Jenny I think, though I haven't tracked down specific timeline of her suspecting Jenny.
(11:09:42 AM) spies8broderick: Her suspecting me is entirely OMGUS. Which i told her and she admitted to episode 7. last night in the chat she said I don't do anything and that I sit back. I gave her two instances of recently not sitting back, and she seemed to ignore it and change her reasoning.
(11:10:07 AM) spies8broderick: She said she suspected me awhile ago but that it dissipated. The only time i've heard that she suspected me was during episode 6, and I called OMGUS on it.
(11:10:46 AM) spies8broderick: I think her not responding to my case against her, really could be a null tell since apparently quite a few people did not know it even existed. Which is shame on their part
(11:14:37 AM) spies8stephanie: and do you think cinn has changed?
(11:15:15 AM) spies8stephanie: i never saw the one who everyone enjoyed talking to the most
(11:15:49 AM) spies8broderick: What do you mean changed?
(11:16:23 AM) spies8stephanie: it seems like the first couple of ep, cinn was much more active
(11:16:34 AM) spies8broderick: oh yeah.
(11:16:34 AM) spies8stephanie: but i wasn't in her team then
(11:16:59 AM) spies8broderick: She has. I named her a disappointment. Both to Cory episodes ago, and when asked that question for th einquisition
(11:22:40 AM) spies8stephanie: and did she go with the vote flow during the first couple of ep?
(11:24:09 AM) spies8broderick: She voted Margot/Margot/Mags
(11:27:48 AM) spies8stephanie: i've got to go kill some bugs...cya later
(11:27:56 AM) spies8broderick: cya
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Post by Stephanie on Aug 4, 2010 8:47:17 GMT -6
Very interesting conversation with Chance! The prisoner's dilemma?? He keeps giving me clues and I'm too stupid to figure them out. I am such a failure. Ugh.
Conversation with spies8chance at 8/3/2010 9:08:29 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(9:08:29 PM) spies8chance: i missed it. :-(
(9:08:34 PM) spies8chance: now i have to wait a whole hour.
(9:08:48 PM) spies8stephanie: another 52 mins
(9:08:52 PM) spies8chance: yeah.
(9:09:02 PM) spies8chance: out of curiosity why do you not want jasmine to get her vote back?
(9:09:07 PM) spies8chance: not that i don't appreciate your efforts. :-)
(9:10:17 PM) spies8stephanie: i am #1 on her suspect list
(9:10:52 PM) spies8stephanie: is the easy answer
(9:12:35 PM) spies8chance: heh.
(9:12:39 PM) spies8chance: what's the not easy answer?
(9:14:27 PM) spies8stephanie: that i have had mild suspicions on her forever, mostly based on her being disruptive in chats and more interested in saving herself than in finding spies
(9:14:41 PM) spies8chance: interesting.
(9:14:43 PM) spies8stephanie: if it were not for isaac, i would have voted her before now
(9:14:52 PM) spies8chance: did you see what i posted?
(9:15:02 PM) spies8stephanie: course, i've also had some suspicions of hambone, but meh
(9:15:13 PM) spies8stephanie: yes
(9:15:18 PM) spies8chance: what did you think?
(9:15:43 PM) spies8stephanie: i think most people are thinking that jasmine is cit
(9:15:53 PM) spies8stephanie: and that it will be a hard case to sell
(9:15:54 PM) spies8chance: mmph.
(9:16:02 PM) spies8chance: it'll be harder when i'm gone.
(9:16:05 PM) spies8chance: you're gonna have to do it. :-P
(9:17:34 PM) spies8stephanie: why are you so sure that you are going to be gone?
(9:18:06 PM) spies8chance: it makes sense. i'm the only clear cit.
(9:18:14 PM) spies8chance: plus i have a role.
(9:18:49 PM) spies8chance: i'm not lynchable.
(9:18:52 PM) spies8chance: unless you're broderick.
(9:19:03 PM) spies8stephanie: huh?
(9:19:08 PM) spies8chance: but he's an idiot.
(9:19:35 PM) spies8chance: 'gertrude didn't tell me specifically that chance was confirmed as a citizen so i'm going to ignore all evidence to the contrary and suspect him'
(9:19:40 PM) spies8stephanie: why are you unlynchable? can you protect yourself from exile forever?
(9:19:55 PM) spies8chance: no, i mean, no one's going to lynch me because gertrude cleared me from being a spy.
(9:20:10 PM) spies8chance: and technically i could only protect myself every other exile.
(9:20:21 PM) spies8chance: my role activates only if i get a vote, and if i'm immune, i can't be voted.
(9:20:49 PM) spies8stephanie: ahh
(9:21:30 PM) spies8chance: when is imprisonment, anyway?
(9:21:35 PM) spies8stephanie: tomorrow
(9:21:39 PM) spies8chance: blech.
(9:22:08 PM) spies8stephanie: i agree with broderick, that you are not entirely clear
(9:22:18 PM) spies8stephanie: gert also said that jenny was spy
(9:22:31 PM) spies8chance: sam didn't confirm to her that jenny was spy, though. there's a difference. :-P
(9:22:39 PM) spies8stephanie: but you've certainly moved pretty far down on the list
(9:22:41 PM) spies8chance: plus why else would i have protected her so much?
(9:23:00 PM) spies8stephanie: so she'd think you were cit?
(9:23:09 PM) spies8chance: sam confirmed me to her. :-P
(9:23:14 PM) spies8chance: same as he confirmed her to me.
(9:23:20 PM) spies8stephanie: well so you say
(9:23:34 PM) spies8chance: that was the entire premise the group was based on, hon.
(9:23:50 PM) spies8chance: did you see the pm she sent me before she was imprisoned?
(9:23:53 PM) spies8chance: i posted it in the burg.
(9:23:55 PM) spies8chance: she confirms me right there.
(9:24:42 PM) spies8stephanie: yes she confirms you, but i don't remember her confirming the source as sam
(9:25:00 PM) spies8chance: okay, then ask claude. or mary. or owen.
(9:25:03 PM) spies8chance: don't take my word for it.
(9:25:29 PM) spies8stephanie: did sam confirm you to them?
(9:25:31 PM) spies8chance: remember how you were the closest to figuring out how it happened even though i couldn't say exactly why?
(9:25:39 PM) spies8chance: no, gertie told them sam confirmed me to her.
(9:25:45 PM) spies8stephanie: oh ok
(9:26:00 PM) spies8stephanie: yes i remember
(9:26:05 PM) spies8chance: mm. :-)
(9:26:21 PM) spies8stephanie: and?
(9:26:34 PM) spies8chance: just curious as to whether you've given it any more thought.
(9:26:57 PM) spies8stephanie: not much
(9:41:35 PM) spies8stephanie: so any hints?
(9:42:17 PM) spies8chance: on an completely unrelated note, have you ever heard of hit and heal, or the prisoner's dilemma?
(9:42:35 PM) spies8chance: i think there was a game show with a final game based on it.
(9:42:44 PM) spies8stephanie: no i haven't
(9:42:50 PM) spies8chance: oh, okay.
(9:43:45 PM) spies8stephanie: but i can and have googled it
(9:43:54 PM) spies8chance: good for you! :-)
(9:47:41 PM) spies8stephanie: and on another unrelated note, what are your thoughts on claude
(9:47:53 PM) spies8chance: i wonder about him even more lately.
(9:48:00 PM) spies8chance: i don't think he's been looked at enough since the isaac exile.
(9:48:21 PM) spies8stephanie: is it possible that his power comes not from his role, but from bribes?
(9:48:41 PM) spies8chance: i don't know about that, but i do think his role could definitely be a spy role.
(9:48:48 PM) spies8chance: let's count the roles.
(9:49:10 PM) spies8stephanie: i just keep wondering why he has used it so sporadically
(9:49:40 PM) spies8chance: savannah. allan. alexei. isaac. me. gertie. claude. cory. spy messenger. kiara.
(9:49:43 PM) spies8chance: am i missing anyone?
(9:49:46 PM) spies8stephanie: he's "forgotten" to use it twide
(9:49:53 PM) spies8stephanie: twice
(9:50:15 PM) spies8chance: hm.
(9:50:23 PM) spies8chance: in any case, that's ten roles if i haven't missed anyone.
(9:50:44 PM) spies8chance: savannah, allan, me, gertie, cory - definite citizens. alexei, isaac, spy messenger - definite spies.
(9:50:47 PM) spies8chance: claude, kiara - ?
(9:53:16 PM) spies8stephanie: but i'm thinking that claude might only get to use his power when someone accepts a bribe?
(9:53:29 PM) spies8chance: hmm.
(9:53:47 PM) spies8stephanie: that's why he was reluctant originally to use it on allan, cause he wasn't sure he'd get it
(9:54:00 PM) spies8stephanie: and that's why he hasn't used it the last couple of rounds
(9:54:04 PM) spies8chance: the only bribe i know of that's been accepted is the one allan accepted, though.
(9:54:13 PM) spies8chance: doesn't rule out private bribes, though.
(9:54:18 PM) spies8chance: but cinnamyn apparently declined a bribe. so did dane.
(9:54:22 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm sure there must have been more
(9:54:34 PM) spies8stephanie: that were accepted and not made public
(9:54:37 PM) spies8chance: there might have been. should have, actually, unless sam's saving something.
(9:54:42 PM) spies8chance: not necessarily accepted, though.
(9:55:04 PM) spies8stephanie: well, i'm thinking the accepted ones are not made public, and the declined ones are?
(9:55:06 PM) spies8chance: five minutes, btw.
(9:55:10 PM) spies8stephanie: ty
(9:55:12 PM) spies8chance: i don't think that's right.
(9:55:40 PM) spies8chance: you'll laugh when you see mine. :-P
(9:57:37 PM) spies8stephanie: it sure seems like hambone should be here trying to help himself
(9:57:47 PM) spies8chance: he was here earlier, but yeah, i agree.
(9:58:04 PM) spies8stephanie: mine are boring
(10:00:13 PM) spies8chance: post!
(10:00:30 PM) spies8stephanie: and hambone is here
(10:01:05 PM) spies8chance: i reminded larry too.
(10:01:11 PM) spies8stephanie: ceiling cat!
(10:01:18 PM) spies8chance: :-D
(10:01:44 PM) spies8chance: four more.
(10:02:25 PM) spies8stephanie: i might be able to stay awake for one more tonight
(10:02:31 PM) spies8chance: i can't.
(10:02:36 PM) spies8chance: i have work in six hours.
(10:03:27 PM) spies8stephanie: eeuuww
(10:03:32 PM) spies8chance: mhm.
(10:05:43 PM) spies8chance: i almost feel bad for jasmine.
(10:06:14 PM) spies8stephanie: i might have except for the way she ranted at me in the chat
(10:06:19 PM) spies8chance: heh.
(10:06:51 PM) spies8chance: i'm going to bed.
(10:07:01 PM) spies8stephanie: sweet dreams
(10:07:02 PM) spies8chance: larry might be doing one more with you.
(10:07:14 PM) spies8chance: i would like to wake up to jasmine's impeachment. :-)
(10:07:26 PM) spies8stephanie: :-)
(10:07:30 PM) spies8chance: nighty night.
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Post by Stephanie on Aug 4, 2010 8:48:59 GMT -6
Conversation with spies8claude at 8/3/2010 9:27:45 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(9:27:57 PM) spies8stephanie: hey claude, you still around?
(9:28:04 PM) spies8claude: yeah
(9:28:21 PM) spies8stephanie: did gert tell you that sam confirmed chance?
(9:28:30 PM) spies8stephanie: or just that she thought chance was cit
(9:28:46 PM) spies8claude: She said Sam confirmed him as a citizen.
(9:29:09 PM) spies8stephanie: i wonder why she didn't include that in her dying words
(9:29:20 PM) spies8claude: dunno
(9:29:24 PM) spies8claude: She told enough of us, though.
(9:30:03 PM) spies8stephanie: do i really have to give up on chance being a spy?
(9:30:28 PM) spies8claude: Probably
(9:30:33 PM) spies8claude: I honestly almost quit over the whole thing
(9:30:43 PM) spies8claude: For Sam to design a role that encourages a town to act scummy is just..
(9:30:46 PM) spies8claude: really hard for me to take.
(9:31:07 PM) spies8stephanie: he's convinced he's going to be imprisoned, but idk
(9:31:14 PM) spies8claude: I hope so.
(9:31:17 PM) spies8claude: And then I hope Owen is next
(9:31:27 PM) spies8claude: Because the more time that passes w/o him being imprisoned, the more leery of him I get.
(9:32:13 PM) spies8stephanie: well, i think they had to wait to get the doc
(9:32:20 PM) spies8claude: shrug
(9:32:50 PM) spies8stephanie: and then i'm not sure how many other times he was protected, but agree that it starts to put suspicion on him
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