Episode 8 conversations

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8lawrence at 7/29/2010 9:09:04 AM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(9:09:04 AM) spies8lawrence: Good morning my dear Stephanie
(9:09:33 AM) spies8stephanie: hi larry
(9:09:44 AM) spies8stephanie: how was your break?
(9:09:44 AM) spies8lawrence: How are you?
(9:10:07 AM) spies8stephanie: i'm good
(9:10:53 AM) spies8stephanie: are you hoping to win your vote back this evening?
(9:11:07 AM) spies8lawrence: Unfortunately
(9:11:18 AM) spies8lawrence: I have a performance tonight
(9:11:32 AM) spies8lawrence: And I will not be around at the required time to earn my vote back
(9:11:41 AM) spies8lawrence: If I were here, I would be trying for it assuredly
(9:11:45 AM) spies8lawrence: But alas, I will not
(9:12:18 AM) spies8stephanie: ohhh that's too bad
(9:12:59 AM) spies8lawrence: Oh well, I am sure there will be other opportunites
(9:13:16 AM) spies8lawrence: So, could you please dispel some rumors for me?
(9:13:23 AM) spies8lawrence: I have no idea who you are voting for at this Exile
(9:13:31 AM) spies8lawrence: I mean, it is not like there is a guilty investigation on someone
(9:13:41 AM) spies8lawrence: We are completely in the dark!
(9:14:02 AM) spies8stephanie: lol
(9:14:49 AM) spies8stephanie: my suspect list after jenny is pretty much of a scrambled mess at the moment, tho
(9:15:18 AM) spies8lawrence: I am hoping we can glean some information from Jenny this round
(9:15:42 AM) spies8lawrence: Although, odds are, with her on the chopping block, she will probably avoid AIM in order to avoid giving up information
(9:16:32 AM) spies8stephanie: and she never gave up much info
(9:19:45 AM) spies8lawrence: AH
(9:19:51 AM) spies8lawrence: I just might earn my vote back this round
(9:21:03 AM) spies8stephanie: oh?
(9:22:13 AM) spies8lawrence: In my confessional there was a puzzle
(9:22:21 AM) spies8lawrence: At the bottom of the screen
(9:22:40 AM) spies8lawrence: And a message that the first to solve it would earn their vote back
(9:22:52 AM) spies8stephanie: well good luck!
(9:22:54 AM) spies8lawrence: It was simple, and I solved it
(9:23:08 AM) spies8lawrence: Thanks for the well wishes
(9:39:49 AM) spies8lawrence: May I ask why your suspect list after Jenny is in a mess?
(9:41:41 AM) spies8stephanie: for a long time my 4 spies were you, chance, kiara, and rondak
(9:41:55 AM) spies8stephanie: not sure about you anymore
(9:42:14 AM) spies8stephanie: owen and cory are somehow convinced that chance is cit
(9:42:15 AM) spies8lawrence: I will take that as a compliment =P
(9:42:32 AM) spies8stephanie: though i am not privvy to that info
(9:42:37 AM) spies8stephanie: kiara claimed
(9:43:06 AM) spies8stephanie: guess i might still be left with rondak?
(9:43:09 AM) spies8lawrence: I can see why that would make you change your mind
(9:53:50 AM) spies8stephanie: time for me to go kill some bugs. break a leg tonight. later

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8claude at 7/29/2010 7:17:22 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(7:17:22 PM) spies8claude: I really wish he'd just stop talking.
(7:17:42 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't understand why awohali would lie about his role
(7:17:59 PM) spies8claude: just a desperate gambit maybe
(7:18:03 PM) spies8claude: I'm not convinced that he did.
(7:18:13 PM) spies8claude: Do you know how to check the forums to see how many threads a person has created?
(7:18:21 PM) spies8stephanie: if he were going to do that, he should have done it earlier
(7:18:24 PM) spies8stephanie: no
(7:18:41 PM) spies8stephanie: and what diff would that make?
(7:18:49 PM) spies8claude: Because
(7:18:54 PM) spies8claude: if Awohali has a ridiculous # of posts
(7:19:00 PM) spies8claude: that probably means he was telling the truth about his role.
(7:19:07 PM) spies8claude: threads
(7:19:08 PM) spies8claude: not posts
(7:19:26 PM) spies8stephanie: i thought his role was conversations?
(7:19:38 PM) spies8claude: Yeah, but he'd have to put them in his confessional
(7:19:47 PM) spies8stephanie: ahh
(7:20:36 PM) spies8claude: I really just feel like we're getting played
(7:20:52 PM) spies8claude: Awohali had to figure that we would have Kiara check him
(7:21:23 PM) spies8stephanie: and i am guessing that it's kiara who is lying
(7:21:41 PM) spies8stephanie: which would also help explain why gert was imprisoned
(7:21:45 PM) spies8claude: Yeah
(7:24:19 PM) spies8stephanie: so i'd say possible
(7:25:05 PM) spies8stephanie: i only have 85 posts in my confessional
(7:26:40 PM) spies8stephanie: kiara could have a plan -- that awohali didn't have a role
(7:26:52 PM) spies8stephanie: that it was only a one-time gift or something
(7:31:43 PM) spies8stephanie: chance still seems like a spy
(7:32:00 PM) spies8stephanie: are we sure that his role makes him cit
(7:32:23 PM) spies8claude: I know he does
(7:32:24 PM) spies8claude: God
(7:32:33 PM) spies8claude: It drives me nuts
(7:33:15 PM) spies8claude: Are you willing to lynch Jenny today?
(7:33:52 PM) spies8stephanie: YES
(7:33:58 PM) spies8claude: Good
(7:34:03 PM) spies8claude: Because I sincerely believe that is correct.
(7:34:12 PM) spies8stephanie: i just wish we had exiled her last time!
(7:34:37 PM) spies8stephanie: who is going to be left nominating?
(7:34:49 PM) spies8claude: IDK
(7:34:53 PM) spies8stephanie: brod, ham, jenny, and someone?
(7:35:07 PM) spies8stephanie: with one of them winning their vote back?
(7:35:23 PM) spies8claude: Yeah I think that's right.
(7:35:36 PM) spies8stephanie: someone is jasmine?
(7:35:44 PM) spies8stephanie: where is she btw?
(7:35:55 PM) spies8claude: who knows
(7:48:03 PM) spies8stephanie: can't decide if chance is siding with jenny and kiara because he's a spy or
(7:48:16 PM) spies8stephanie: because he honestly thinks they are cits?
(7:48:24 PM) spies8claude: Hard to say.
(7:48:28 PM) spies8claude: Easier to figure out later.
(7:48:44 PM) spies8claude: When one of their alignments(jenny's perferably) is known
(7:48:45 PM) spies8stephanie: i guess, just bugs me
(7:49:43 PM) spies8stephanie: so i guess brod and ham would both be willing to nominate jenny?
(7:49:51 PM) spies8stephanie: so she will get nominated?
(7:50:04 PM) spies8claude: I'm asking Brod if he will nominate her.
(7:52:26 PM) spies8claude: If Kiara and Jenny are both Spies.
(7:52:32 PM) spies8claude: Then I really think that makes it likely that Chance is also
(7:52:35 PM) spies8claude: Role be damned.
(7:53:13 PM) spies8stephanie: i wish i'd had the opportunity while gert was still here to explore this mason thing a little further
(7:53:29 PM) spies8stephanie: did gert ever say that chance was cit?
(7:53:49 PM) spies8claude: yeah
(7:53:59 PM) spies8claude: She said they had a special subforum
(7:54:29 PM) spies8claude: Gert was convinced that he is a Citizen
(7:54:33 PM) spies8claude: But if that is just part of his role, shrug
(7:56:01 PM) spies8stephanie: we only have 1 more round of nominations?
(7:56:15 PM) spies8stephanie: i'll be glad to get back to regular voting
(8:01:33 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm glad i didn't have gert's role
(8:01:42 PM) spies8claude: heh
(8:02:01 PM) spies8stephanie: can't wait to see their subforum board
(8:15:46 PM) spies8stephanie: interesting that's the news jenny is telling
(8:16:32 PM) spies8claude: heh
(8:40:15 PM) spies8claude: So chance was saying that you 'almost' guessed how they became masons
(8:40:19 PM) spies8claude: Do you know what he was referring ot?
(8:40:20 PM) spies8claude: to
(8:40:26 PM) spies8stephanie: no
(8:41:16 PM) spies8stephanie: no clue
(8:41:28 PM) spies8stephanie: i knew there was something going on with chance
(8:41:37 PM) spies8claude: ?
(8:41:48 PM) spies8stephanie: because of how owen, cory, and mary
(8:41:54 PM) spies8stephanie: quit suspecting him
(8:42:03 PM) spies8stephanie: but i didn't know what
(8:42:08 PM) spies8claude: Well like
(8:42:12 PM) spies8claude: Oh I see.
(8:42:19 PM) spies8claude: Right, you just found out about the 'masons' stuff.
(8:42:25 PM) spies8claude: I hate the whole thing
(8:42:45 PM) spies8claude: And I'm partially of the opinion that chance is not a citizen, and Sam just decided to make a complete bastard role.
(8:42:52 PM) spies8stephanie: originally i was guessing some bribe thing
(8:43:04 PM) spies8stephanie: could that be the almost guessed?
(8:43:34 PM) spies8claude: Maybe.
(9:02:31 PM) spies8claude: Hambone says he's willing to nominate Jenny if he doesn't get his vote back
(9:02:34 PM) spies8claude: So at least that's something.
(9:03:16 PM) spies8stephanie: yep, that's good, but what if dane, jenny, jasmine are the 3?
(9:03:22 PM) spies8claude: shrug
(9:03:38 PM) spies8claude: I don't have any problems w/ Jasmine
(9:04:02 PM) spies8stephanie: well she does seem to have links to jenny
(9:04:16 PM) spies8claude: Because of what, that 'slip' while awohali was getting lyncheD?
(9:04:23 PM) spies8claude: IMO, Chance is just making something out of nothing there.
(9:04:42 PM) spies8stephanie: no just cause she's been pro-jenny the whole game, hasn't she?
(9:04:49 PM) spies8claude: Hmmm.
(9:04:58 PM) spies8claude: That I don't know about
(9:05:09 PM) spies8claude: I haven't seen her say much of anything re: Jenny
(9:06:11 PM) spies8stephanie: hmmm...i don't have any quotes at the ready, but i def got that impression last ep
(9:06:24 PM) spies8claude: I'll look for it
(9:41:24 PM) spies8stephanie: i knew kiara would have a plan...

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8cinnamyn at 7/29/2010 8:14:13 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(8:14:23 PM) spies8stephanie: hi cinn
(8:14:30 PM) spies8cinnamyn: aye grl
(8:14:52 PM) spies8stephanie: i guess it's expected that the first news jenny says is about kiara's result
(8:15:06 PM) spies8stephanie: did you see who was imprisoned?
(8:15:32 PM) spies8cinnamyn: yea
(8:15:39 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i am sad tho surprised it wuznt owen
(8:16:17 PM) spies8stephanie: and did you see that gert and chance have roles and were "masons"?
(8:16:40 PM) spies8cinnamyn: yea i red it
(8:16:43 PM) spies8cinnamyn: mite read it over again
(8:16:46 PM) spies8cinnamyn: 2 let it set in
(8:17:01 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah i'm still getting my head around it
(8:17:11 PM) spies8stephanie: i still think chance looks like a spy
(8:17:48 PM) spies8stephanie: and it looks like either kiara or awohali is lying
(8:17:54 PM) spies8cinnamyn: we still need 2 exile jenny
(8:18:00 PM) spies8stephanie: and i would go with kiara being the liar
(8:18:14 PM) spies8stephanie: i agree with jenny exile
(8:18:21 PM) spies8cinnamyn: jenny seemz 2 think dis magically clearz her
(8:18:23 PM) spies8cinnamyn: no lmbo
(8:20:35 PM) spies8cinnamyn: bcuz if n e 1 luks da mos' suspishis after a awohali exile, itz jenny
(8:21:02 PM) spies8cinnamyn: so she shud really b exiled regardliss of da whole investigashin nonsense
(8:21:59 PM) spies8stephanie: i just wish she had gone last time
(8:23:22 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i dont want her 2 win her vote back
(8:23:48 PM) spies8stephanie: actually i think it might be better if she did
(8:24:01 PM) spies8stephanie: i'd hate to have spies in charge on noms
(8:24:09 PM) spies8cinnamyn: mmm
(8:24:20 PM) spies8cinnamyn: but 1 person wont get dey vote back
(8:24:50 PM) spies8stephanie: i'd like that to be jasmine or dane
(8:26:14 PM) spies8cinnamyn: bcuz they r suspishis 2 u
(8:26:17 PM) spies8cinnamyn: or bcuz they r stupid
(8:26:26 PM) spies8cinnamyn: ideally id lyke sum1 suspishis 2 not get it
(8:27:21 PM) spies8stephanie: because they're never here
(8:42:40 PM) spies8cinnamyn: chance continuez 2 defend jenny
(8:44:49 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah, he's been doing it all night
(8:45:15 PM) spies8stephanie: i wish i'd had a chance to talk to gert about all of this before she left
(8:48:04 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm willing to give chance a bye for now, but i'm not convinced that all of this clears him
(8:48:34 PM) spies8cinnamyn: im jus' not goin' 2 buy hiz tryin' 2 protect jenny
(8:49:21 PM) spies8stephanie: i honestly think that he is just cit with no clue
(8:49:32 PM) spies8cinnamyn: me 2
(8:49:42 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i think he jus' lykes dat jenny thinks da same az him on a lot of thingz
(8:49:49 PM) spies8cinnamyn: but datz cuz he aint got no clue and she a spy, lmbo
(8:50:02 PM) spies8stephanie: but not willing to clear him forever -- and he still has owen way up on his susp. list?
(8:50:11 PM) spies8cinnamyn: datz wut he jus' told me
(8:50:25 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i dont no y he didnt come out wit' hiz suspishinz until now
(8:50:29 PM) spies8cinnamyn: itz da furst ive heard of it
(8:59:21 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah, i've said for a while that there were too many secrets being kept
(8:59:47 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i think itz hurting us
(8:59:49 PM) spies8stephanie: i was convinced that chance was spy
(9:00:04 PM) spies8stephanie: and if he had a claim, he should have come forth with it earlier
(9:00:34 PM) spies8stephanie: if cits just tell the truth, the spies have a much harder time hiding
(9:00:49 PM) spies8cinnamyn: and i think a spy WUZ hiding
(9:00:51 PM) spies8cinnamyn: in da cit group
(9:01:06 PM) spies8stephanie: who?
(9:01:25 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i dont no, but luk at da las' 2 exiles
(9:01:49 PM) spies8cinnamyn: owen and cory switch off of kiara and on 2 zed with gertie
(9:01:51 PM) spies8cinnamyn: zed iz cit
(9:02:16 PM) spies8cinnamyn: gert and owen vote awo wit' no reazin posted, awo wuz cit
(9:02:31 PM) spies8stephanie: who did you vote for on zeke exile?
(9:02:36 PM) spies8cinnamyn: kiara
(9:03:05 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i mean if dey were a big group, and dey STILL got citz exiled
(9:03:09 PM) spies8cinnamyn: and did so in secret, nonetheless
(9:03:17 PM) spies8cinnamyn: sumthing iz up
(9:04:31 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i mean wut wuz da point of dem never posting how dey were voting.
(9:05:16 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah, well they decided at last minute after the kiara claim
(9:05:35 PM) spies8stephanie: i had a whole total meltdown over it
(9:05:53 PM) spies8cinnamyn: and after kiara iz let in2 da cit group
(9:05:54 PM) spies8cinnamyn: gertie iz imp'd
(9:06:22 PM) spies8stephanie: exactly
(9:08:33 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i jus' dont lyke da way it went down
(9:08:45 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i think dey haz 2 b a spy in dat grup
(9:09:41 PM) spies8cinnamyn: but im not takin' my sightz off jenny
(9:12:27 PM) spies8stephanie: dane, the useless ass, ignores the question with one of his own?
(9:12:39 PM) spies8cinnamyn: r u surprised.?
(9:20:19 PM) spies8stephanie: dane doesn't know crap about spies8
(9:20:28 PM) spies8stephanie: he just keeps quoting prev games
(9:20:49 PM) spies8cinnamyn: lmbo
(9:20:50 PM) spies8cinnamyn: tru
(9:21:03 PM) spies8cinnamyn: 2 bad my time machine iz broken, we cud go back there
(9:21:36 PM) spies8stephanie: i thought he said he had read up on kiara's claim, but he doesn't know crap
(9:22:13 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i wud have thot hiz spy buddiez wud have informed him
(9:23:27 PM) spies8stephanie: omg, that looks like dane is spy, trying to give jenny an opportunity
(9:24:27 PM) spies8cinnamyn: well 2 b fair i aksed her da same queschin
(9:24:28 PM) spies8cinnamyn: in private
(9:25:09 PM) spies8stephanie: and did she have an answer?
(9:25:24 PM) spies8cinnamyn: same az wut she told dane
(9:25:42 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i told her 2 post a case, otherwise i wuz voting her 100% bcuz she iz riding the sidelinez
(9:26:06 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i want 2 c her step on sum toez.
(9:26:27 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i dont want nice nice jenny
(9:27:08 PM) spies8stephanie: but it's too late in my opinion
(9:27:26 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i no, but i still want 2 push her
(9:27:27 PM) spies8stephanie: anything she posts now could be wifom'd to death
(9:27:44 PM) spies8cinnamyn: we can use n e thing she sez after she iz exiled, problem iz she aint sed much she haz jus' followed
(9:27:45 PM) spies8stephanie: can't hurt to push her, i agree
(9:40:13 PM) spies8stephanie: and the bussing begins
(9:40:26 PM) spies8cinnamyn: lmbo.! so tru
(9:40:27 PM) spies8stephanie: kiara trying to save herself
(9:44:54 PM) spies8stephanie: jenny and dane, both metagaming A LOT
(9:45:07 PM) spies8stephanie: drives me nuts
(9:45:15 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i honestly dont care about past gamez

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8hambone at 7/29/2010 8:37:08 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(8:37:44 PM) spies8stephanie: i wish we'd had the opportunity to talk to gert about all of this
(8:37:58 PM) spies8stephanie: cause now we're stuck with just believing chance
(8:38:08 PM) spies8stephanie: and he still looks like a spy to me
(8:38:40 PM) spies8hambone: what do u mean
(8:38:43 PM) spies8hambone: im very confused right now
(8:43:32 PM) spies8stephanie: me too hambone
(8:43:46 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm just still not convinced chance is a cit
(8:44:10 PM) spies8stephanie: and i wish gert had spilled some of this before
(8:45:27 PM) spies8hambone: yea
(8:55:12 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm certainly going with the 2 confirmed cits, gert and awohali, and voting jenny this round
(8:55:21 PM) spies8stephanie: assuming that she's nom.
(9:12:30 PM) spies8hambone: yeah
(9:12:33 PM) spies8hambone: im doing the same
(9:12:39 PM) spies8hambone: i dont care what kiara says
(9:13:51 PM) spies8stephanie: and it's interesting that gert is imprisoned just after kiara found out about her role
(9:41:08 PM) spies8stephanie: and the bussing begins...
(9:45:26 PM) spies8hambone: what bussing
(9:45:32 PM) spies8hambone: sorry im not following the chatroom
(9:45:46 PM) spies8stephanie: kiara says we should vote jenny anyway
(9:46:02 PM) spies8hambone: HUH
(9:46:09 PM) spies8hambone: does she have a reason
(9:46:16 PM) spies8stephanie: i told claude she would have a plan
(9:47:05 PM) spies8stephanie: (9:39:31 PM) spies8kiara: hey, sorry guys back. oh, and to clear up some obvious confusion, i still think jenny is a spy and will vote her if she is nominated. weather awohali is lying or not i still find her the most scummy

(9:47:14 PM) spies8hambone: yeah
(9:47:16 PM) spies8hambone: i just read that
(9:47:17 PM) spies8hambone: ok
(9:47:18 PM) spies8hambone: thats good
(9:47:21 PM) spies8hambone: im glad she said that
(9:47:26 PM) spies8hambone: but now it makes her look WEIRD imo
(9:47:41 PM) spies8hambone: maybe she knows jenny is a sinking ship
(9:47:45 PM) spies8hambone: and shes just not trying to save her
(9:47:47 PM) spies8stephanie: exactly
(9:56:30 PM) spies8stephanie: why can you talk now?
(9:57:04 PM) spies8hambone: i was watching survivor
(9:57:06 PM) spies8hambone: the episode ended
(9:57:14 PM) spies8stephanie: ahh
(9:57:18 PM) spies8hambone:
(9:57:22 PM) spies8hambone: IM A GEEK
(9:57:24 PM) spies8hambone: *hits steph*

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8lawrence at 7/29/2010 10:07:25 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(10:07:58 PM) spies8stephanie: kiara first came into tonight and said that awohali didn't have a role
(10:08:19 PM) spies8lawrence: Isn't that what she is saying now?
(10:08:23 PM) spies8stephanie: yes
(10:08:33 PM) spies8lawrence: I'm sorry, I fail to see where you are going with this
(10:08:44 PM) spies8stephanie: then she disappeared while we all discussed
(10:09:01 PM) spies8stephanie: and most of us decided that kiara and jenny were both spies
(10:09:37 PM) spies8stephanie: and then kiara re-appeared and said she thought jenny was a spy, but that awohali was lying
(10:10:04 PM) spies8lawrence: I'm sorry, I don't see what is suspicious about this
(10:10:54 PM) spies8stephanie: ok...either i am not explaining well..or perhaps it is not suspicious
(10:11:32 PM) spies8stephanie: we were all talking about why kiara would lie about awohali's role
(10:11:33 PM) spies8lawrence: Saying that Awohali didn't have a role does not have an effect on Jenny's alignment
(10:11:53 PM) spies8lawrence: The only reason for Kiara to lie about Awohali's role is for Kiara and Jenny to both be criminals.
(10:12:14 PM) spies8stephanie: well, if awohali did have a role then clearly jenny is spy
(10:12:29 PM) spies8lawrence: Saying Awohali doesn't have a role only says Awohali strongly believed Jenny was a criminal, and was willing to create a fake role in order for us to lynch her.
(10:12:41 PM) spies8lawrence: But she is saying that Awohali doesn't have a role.
(10:12:49 PM) spies8stephanie: and if awohali did have a role then kiara is spy
(10:12:57 PM) spies8lawrence: Correct.
(10:13:11 PM) spies8lawrence: However, as far as I know, we have no information other than Kiara's role about Awohali's "role."
(10:13:13 PM) spies8stephanie: if awohali did not have role then why did he claim to have one
(10:13:33 PM) spies8lawrence: He believed Jenny was a criminal so strongly, he would do anything to get us to Exile her?
(10:13:41 PM) spies8lawrence: That is the only argument I can come up with
(10:13:55 PM) spies8stephanie: possibility, and i even asked awohali about that
(10:14:08 PM) spies8stephanie: and he said his role was real
(10:14:14 PM) spies8stephanie: tho who knows?
(10:14:36 PM) spies8lawrence: Why would he tell one person that the role was fake? That would defeat the purpose of his "strategy." (I don't think highly of it, but that's personal opinion.)
(10:14:58 PM) spies8stephanie: i agree
(10:15:41 PM) spies8stephanie: i suspect that jenny and kiara are both spies and awohali was telling the truth
(10:16:14 PM) spies8stephanie: kiara-spy tried to get us to move off jenny by saying the role was fake
(10:16:24 PM) spies8lawrence: That is fine, but do you have evidence to support that claim besides "Awohali was telling the truth?"
(10:16:48 PM) spies8stephanie: and now she's trying not to get caught up in the suspicions by telling us to exile jenny anyway
(10:17:10 PM) spies8stephanie: no evidence
(10:17:31 PM) spies8lawrence: Wouldn't it be easier for her to say that Awohali's role was real, bus Jenny, and look Citizen out of the deal?
(10:17:31 PM) spies8stephanie: though i did point to him not claiming earlier
(10:18:22 PM) spies8stephanie: yep, if they knew ahead of time that no one would move off jenny
(10:19:28 PM) spies8lawrence: They could ensure that no one would move off of Jenny by saying Awohali has a role
(10:19:56 PM) spies8stephanie: i think they were trying to save jenny
(10:20:00 PM) spies8stephanie: and it didn't work
(10:20:34 PM) spies8stephanie: and then kiara started back-tracking
(10:20:51 PM) spies8lawrence: How has she backtracked?
(10:25:45 PM) spies8stephanie: well i don't see that she did, in fact, she claims she never tried to make any conclusions from awohali not having a role
(10:25:56 PM) spies8stephanie: which is suspicious itself
(10:26:11 PM) spies8lawrence: I don't see how that is suspicious
(10:26:18 PM) spies8lawrence: However, have you asked our question to Dane yet?
(10:26:29 PM) spies8lawrence: I will do it if you haven't, he is online
(10:27:01 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah, i have, and was totally unsatisfied with answer
(10:27:05 PM) spies8stephanie: so try again

[Stephanie]

Sorry, Chance, but it was feeble....

Conversation with spies8chance at 7/30/2010 6:37:23 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(6:37:23 PM) spies8chance: hey steph.
(6:37:33 PM) spies8stephanie: hey devil
(6:37:37 PM) spies8chance: whatcha up to?
(6:37:51 PM) spies8stephanie: a friday beer
(6:38:07 PM) spies8chance: sweet.
(6:38:19 PM) spies8chance: so how do you feel about investigations?
(6:38:49 PM) spies8stephanie: what investigations? kiaras?
(6:38:54 PM) spies8chance: nah, mine.
(6:38:59 PM) spies8chance: gertrude dying gave me one.
(6:39:10 PM) spies8stephanie: sweet
(6:39:25 PM) spies8chance: i already used it. :-P
(6:39:37 PM) spies8chance: would you like to be exiled before or after jenny? spy. :-)
(6:39:54 PM) spies8stephanie: yours was worth about as much as kiara's then?
(6:40:04 PM) spies8chance: you mean awohali's?
(6:40:13 PM) spies8chance: because i'm actually not lying about mine, heh.
(6:40:35 PM) spies8stephanie: uh.. yeah you are
(6:40:41 PM) spies8chance: only, i'm not.
(6:40:42 PM) spies8stephanie: just like kiara
(6:40:50 PM) spies8chance: what does kiara have to do with anything?
(6:41:02 PM) spies8stephanie: she lied about investigation
(6:41:05 PM) spies8stephanie: and so are you
(6:41:13 PM) spies8chance: when did kiara lie about an investigation?
(6:41:24 PM) spies8stephanie: i think awohali had a role
(6:41:39 PM) spies8chance: oh, so you think kiara's lying and saying awohali didn't?
(6:41:50 PM) spies8stephanie: yep
(6:42:21 PM) spies8chance: interesting. gertie's flipping cit makes me a cit, though, so what about mine?
(6:42:31 PM) spies8stephanie: idk
(6:42:59 PM) spies8chance: you think i'm lying?
(6:43:01 PM) spies8stephanie: all i can say is that you are lying if you investigated me and found me a spy
(6:43:14 PM) spies8chance: mmm... okay.
(6:43:15 PM) spies8stephanie: don't know whether that means you are spy
(6:43:26 PM) spies8stephanie: or whether this is some feeble spy trap
(6:43:28 PM) spies8chance: that seems like a citizen reaction. okay, i believe you. :-P
(6:43:32 PM) spies8chance: and it's not feeble!
(6:43:41 PM) spies8chance: i figure i might as well do something before i die.
(6:43:45 PM) spies8stephanie: ;-)
(6:43:52 PM) spies8chance: i tried it on jasmine and kiara, too.
(6:43:56 PM) spies8stephanie: you think you are next imprisoned
(6:43:58 PM) spies8stephanie: ?
(6:44:04 PM) spies8chance: kiara's didn't work because jasmine went running straight to claude and kiara when i tested her.
(6:44:22 PM) spies8chance: and yes, i do.
(6:44:44 PM) spies8stephanie: so what did you mean when you said i came closest to guessing how you became a mason?
(6:44:55 PM) spies8chance: i can't say directly.
(6:44:56 PM) spies8chance: but you did.
(6:45:00 PM) spies8chance: a while back.
(6:45:08 PM) spies8stephanie: something to do with a bribe?
(6:45:14 PM) spies8chance: i can neither confirm nor deny.
(6:45:20 PM) spies8stephanie: mmmk
(6:45:59 PM) spies8stephanie: so who are you thinking of voting?
(6:46:10 PM) spies8stephanie: you didn't seem very suspicious of jenny last night
(6:46:14 PM) spies8chance: i don't think it matters, since jenny's being exiled regardless.
(6:46:28 PM) spies8stephanie: it always matters
(6:46:30 PM) spies8chance: i'm not, really. i have a very hard time believing kiara as a spy would defend jenny like that.
(6:46:43 PM) spies8chance: i'm much more set on jasmine being a spy.
(6:47:16 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah idk about jasmine. i was def leaning spy on her at one time
(6:47:28 PM) spies8stephanie: but e1 seems to think that isaac more or less cleared her
(6:47:32 PM) spies8chance: her actions during episode 1 were scummy as hell.
(6:47:33 PM) spies8chance: i don't.
(6:47:40 PM) spies8chance: she scumslipped during the awohali exile.
(6:48:31 PM) spies8stephanie: what did she again? somehow knew awohali was cit before the reveal?
(6:49:11 PM) spies8chance: yes.
(6:49:20 PM) spies8stephanie: i was pretty sure he was cit before the reveal
(6:49:28 PM) spies8chance: immediately before the reveal, started jumping on jenny because of awohali.
(6:50:59 PM) spies8stephanie: that could just mean that she was like me and believed awohali was cit
(6:51:18 PM) spies8chance: it could if she didn't immediately backtrack on it when i called her out.
(6:51:23 PM) spies8chance: but i gotta go for now. later
(6:51:27 PM) spies8stephanie: later

[Stephanie]

Broderick has been growing on me:

Conversation with spies8broderick at 7/30/2010 11:00:27 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(11:00:38 PM) spies8stephanie: hi chef, you still around?
(11:19:49 PM) spies8broderick: Hey
(11:20:09 PM) spies8stephanie: so did you see all of the news?
(11:20:27 PM) spies8stephanie: dane got his vote back due to jenny loving him?
(11:20:36 PM) spies8broderick: The what? and the what?
(11:21:22 PM) spies8stephanie: Dane gave 35 to Hambone, 35 to Jasmine, 30 to Jenny.
Hambone gave 34 to Dane, 33 to Jasmine, 33 to Jenny.
Jasmine gave 30 to Dane, 30 to Hambone, 40 to Jenny.
Jenny gave 98 to Dane, 1 to Hambone, 1 to Jasmine.

Totals:

Dane: 162
Jenny: 103
Jasmine: 69
Hambone: 66

(11:22:00 PM) spies8stephanie: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=1372
(11:22:23 PM) spies8broderick: what the hell
(11:23:24 PM) spies8stephanie: i was really hoping that dane would be the one who NEVER got his vote back
(11:24:12 PM) spies8broderick: I just about fucking shit my pants. Rondak... Dane.. Claude... I thought it was it for the nominees. Then Jenny showed up.
(11:24:16 PM) spies8broderick: Either him or Jasmine
(11:24:32 PM) spies8stephanie: tell me about jasmine
(11:24:36 PM) spies8broderick: Penalties - Claude (no convo, 2nd time - 3), Dane (no convo, 2nd time -3).
(11:24:43 PM) spies8broderick: Oh dear lol penalties
(11:25:02 PM) spies8broderick: She doesn't seem to ever pay attention. Even when she is here, which seems limited.
(11:25:51 PM) spies8broderick: Why would Jenny want to give Dane his vote back. Just beause he might not vote her or something?
(11:26:05 PM) spies8stephanie: she said cause he was the most cit to her
(11:26:36 PM) spies8broderick: I think he wants to vote her out if i remember right
(11:27:05 PM) spies8broderick: Did those totals come from each player or something?
(11:27:50 PM) spies8stephanie: just posted the chat
(11:28:02 PM) spies8stephanie: the totals were in their confessionals
(11:28:07 PM) spies8broderick: ohh
(11:28:13 PM) spies8stephanie: jasmine posted and jenny agreed
(11:29:27 PM) spies8stephanie: jasmine seemed out of character to me tonight
(11:29:50 PM) spies8stephanie: she im'd me and started asking questions about who i suspected
(11:30:04 PM) spies8stephanie: and then in the chat seemed to have a lot of game talk
(11:30:43 PM) spies8stephanie: when i've seen her previously, she just talked nonsense
(11:31:07 PM) spies8broderick: Yeah. I've noticed that athe majority of her AIM stuff, and even board stuff is mostly fluff
(11:32:28 PM) spies8stephanie: made me think that she and jenny were trying to set up dane for a bad exile
(11:33:11 PM) spies8stephanie: it's probably just another of my crazy theories and i am getting ahead of myself assuming jenny is spy already
(11:33:25 PM) spies8stephanie: but jasmine looked odd to me tonight
(11:34:42 PM) spies8broderick: how so? from what you just said about th eIm/group chat?
(11:35:20 PM) spies8stephanie: she just looked out of character -- having so much talk about game stuff
(11:35:46 PM) spies8stephanie: and she was pushing dane as a suspect
(11:35:56 PM) spies8broderick: huh
(11:36:04 PM) spies8broderick: I wonder why dane
(11:37:18 PM) spies8stephanie: idk
(11:37:35 PM) spies8stephanie: my conversation with jasmine was earlier
(11:37:49 PM) spies8broderick: I talked to her for a few mninutes this morning, but she went afk in the middle of it
(11:38:15 PM) spies8stephanie: and didn't strike me until jenny went so cit on dane and gave him his vote back
(11:38:44 PM) spies8broderick: Owen and I were talking about Jenny defending Dane last night
(11:38:50 PM) spies8broderick: How she seems to do it regularly
(11:38:54 PM) spies8stephanie: owen?
(11:38:57 PM) spies8stephanie: is he back?
(11:39:09 PM) spies8broderick: Yeah. He was on late last night. About 2am CDT
(11:39:27 PM) spies8stephanie: oh good
(11:39:48 PM) spies8stephanie: yea jenny was defending dane from way back in ep 1
(11:40:14 PM) spies8broderick: Why?
(11:40:39 PM) spies8stephanie: well i voted dane ep 1, i thought he was suspicious even then
(11:41:10 PM) spies8stephanie: and went around telling others why i thought he was suspicious
(11:42:11 PM) spies8stephanie: when i got to jenny, she said she thought she knew he was in RL and that made her not suspicious of him
(11:42:55 PM) spies8broderick: lol?
(11:45:54 PM) spies8stephanie: (11:21:47 PM) spies8jenny: I think I know who it is, and assuming I'm right, the person is fairly stubborn and set in their ways usually, and would get fairly snippy when presented with another way of doing something.

(11:46:19 PM) spies8broderick: How is that a cit/spy tell?
(11:46:26 PM) spies8stephanie: not
(11:46:52 PM) spies8stephanie: not at all
(11:47:30 PM) spies8stephanie: just that she's been defending him the whole game, without much reason
(11:47:34 PM) spies8broderick: If it was 'they do this and this while a citizen'. Then maybe yeah. But that isn't one.
(11:48:49 PM) spies8stephanie: my wifom meter is telling me that jenny and jasmine are spies, and dane is a cit
(11:49:18 PM) spies8stephanie: but my wifom meter has never been calibrated and proved faulty on most occasions
(11:49:26 PM) spies8broderick: lol
(11:49:41 PM) spies8broderick: My gut has said Jasmine since the beginning. It also said Chance and Gertrude. So..
(11:49:57 PM) spies8stephanie: i still think chance looks like a spy
(11:50:06 PM) spies8broderick: Which I can't fault my gut for two people to intentionally act like scum.
(11:50:10 PM) spies8stephanie: talks like a spy, acts like a spy
(11:50:18 PM) spies8broderick: He does, and I have a hard time believing that he is acitizen.
(11:50:50 PM) spies8stephanie: did he try to trap you today in his lame, feeble scum-trap?
(11:51:00 PM) spies8broderick: Could be that I'm still quite irritated at the whole thing. That I was compiling information ont he two of them for th elongest time, voted him like half this game.. and he's been 'confirmed' since like the first episode
(11:51:39 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah that was part of my meltdown after the zeke exile
(11:51:40 PM) spies8broderick: While they, from my perspective anyhow - intentionally made themselves looked scummy while playingw with their roles. But did they secretly spy hunt for reals?
(11:52:10 PM) spies8stephanie: i was literally screaming and cussing at owen and cory for voting zeke instead of chance
(11:52:38 PM) spies8broderick: I did not understand that at all. It makes sense now. But they should of voted Lawrence in that case I think.
(11:52:41 PM) spies8stephanie: and they told me they really had reasons to believe that chance was cit
(11:52:57 PM) spies8stephanie: but didn't ever tell me the reasons
(11:53:18 PM) spies8broderick: From what I remember - they said it was convo's that chance and Isaac had together, which made him look citizen.
(11:53:37 PM) spies8broderick: I remember Awohali asking about them, and Sam kind of reminding that asking for convo's is a no no - since he was in the chat at the time
(11:53:55 PM) spies8stephanie: that was their excuse, but anybody could have seen thru that
(11:54:03 PM) spies8stephanie: that was no good reason at all
(11:54:05 PM) spies8broderick: That was like the reason Zedekiah was pretty much a citizen as well. Because of convo's he sent cory kind of illegally - over the line amount -
(11:54:16 PM) spies8stephanie: i asked about that extensively and it didn't stand up
(11:54:30 PM) spies8broderick: Then for them to choose Chance s the more cit out of the two - even though they were deemed cit for the same reason
(11:54:50 PM) spies8stephanie: exactly
(11:55:04 PM) spies8stephanie: it didn't stand up to the first bit of scrutiny
(11:55:09 PM) spies8broderick: It makes sense now, that the real reason was his role or whatever. But doesn't make it much better. lol
(11:55:18 PM) spies8broderick: Zed a believe citizen was exiled because of Kiara
(11:55:27 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah i still get mad about it
(11:55:54 PM) spies8stephanie: i think kiara is lying about awohali
(11:56:07 PM) spies8broderick: Kiara is a mess.
(11:56:10 PM) spies8stephanie: she's number 2 on my spy list
(11:56:19 PM) spies8broderick: I didn't think she was a citizen before her claim, and I still don't
(11:56:24 PM) spies8broderick: Her role has not been confirmed
(11:56:53 PM) spies8broderick: Plus the whole thing about revealing things to her like right after she claimed - that was just dumb
(11:56:57 PM) spies8stephanie: i actually suspect that her role is true to some extent
(11:57:34 PM) spies8broderick: What part?
(11:57:38 PM) spies8stephanie: i think she gets to investigate dead people, but i think that the whole more than 1 investigation due to guessing is a fabrication
(11:57:50 PM) spies8stephanie: so i think she investigated cits
(11:58:02 PM) spies8stephanie: and threw in the spies
(11:58:22 PM) spies8stephanie: and the reason for more than 1 investigation to make her role look like a cit role
(11:58:35 PM) spies8broderick: Yeah
(11:59:02 PM) spies8broderick: Pretty much what makes it look citizen the most, the guessing of the alignments.
(11:59:16 PM) spies8broderick: Though that part I dont believe really lol
(12:00:36 AM) spies8stephanie: what do you think about rondak and lawrence?
(12:00:47 AM) spies8stephanie: i had larry on my spy list forever
(12:00:55 AM) spies8stephanie: but new larry idk about
(12:01:16 AM) spies8broderick: Rondak isnt doing anything
(12:01:35 AM) spies8broderick: He has had enough time to catch up and have an opinion on something - but he doesn
(12:01:37 AM) spies8stephanie: he just seems odd to me
(12:01:52 AM) spies8broderick: tI just remembered his "slip" to hambone from awhile back
(12:02:02 AM) spies8broderick: I felt more cit about old lawrence than I do new lawrence
(12:02:36 AM) spies8stephanie: rly? just the opposite of me -- i was convinced old larry was spy
(12:03:26 AM) spies8stephanie: i haven't been able to get a good read on either one of them
(12:03:53 AM) spies8stephanie: but at the moment i'd pick rondak for a spy over larry
(12:04:02 AM) spies8broderick: Yeah. I thought out of Isaac/Lawrence that Isaac was the spy. There was also the possible spyslip of Isaac's that Lawrence brought to light. New Lawrence just seems more.. groupthinky to me. He has also said a few odd things
(12:04:54 AM) spies8broderick: I'm not sure whether Rondak just is a total noobie and is floundering with understanding or what. But I would have to look it up. But he contradicted himself. He showed he understood the difference between a citizen and a spy - then claimed he didn't. Then showed againlater that he did
(12:05:42 AM) spies8stephanie: i think he must be a RL buddy of old rondak
(12:06:03 AM) spies8stephanie: they both came from survivor backgrounds
(12:06:39 AM) spies8stephanie: so i think old rondak said i can't play anymore, let my buddy, new rondak, play
(12:07:47 AM) spies8stephanie: and what about cinnamyn?
(12:07:58 AM) spies8broderick: lol. I think she is a spy
(12:08:03 AM) spies8stephanie: another one i can't get a read on
(12:08:19 AM) spies8stephanie: why?
(12:08:24 AM) spies8broderick: I made a semi case about her. About her dropping suspects and stuff
(12:09:00 AM) spies8broderick: She dropped awohali and myself as suspects and pick up Jenny the night of exile 6. Then last episode she was back on AWohali, for the same reason she dropped him in the first place
(12:09:10 AM) spies8stephanie: i thought she was suspicious of jenny at some point, but she wouldn't budge off her awohali vote last round
(12:09:42 AM) spies8broderick: When I talked to her at the beginning of ep6. She suspected Kiara, Zed, Awohali, and myself as an OMGUS.
(12:09:51 AM) spies8broderick: The night of exile 6, she suspected Zed, Kiara, and Jenny
(12:10:05 AM) spies8broderick: Then Awohali was back as a suspect when he was geting attention
(12:10:20 AM) spies8stephanie: she voted kiara tho, right?
(12:10:28 AM) spies8broderick: Yes
(12:10:46 AM) spies8broderick: Which at the time Kiara was a popular name going around. Same with Zedekiah.
(12:10:51 AM) spies8stephanie: she wasn't around for the claim
(12:11:08 AM) spies8broderick: She made it a point to stress that it had nothing to do with them being popular
(12:11:12 AM) spies8broderick: I dont think so
(12:12:26 AM) spies8stephanie: and this time she's back with jenny again
(12:12:33 AM) spies8broderick: Yes.
(12:12:46 AM) spies8broderick: I don't think she dropped Jenny last episode when she was after Awohali
(12:12:54 AM) spies8broderick: But I can't be certain. I would have to look
(12:13:06 AM) spies8stephanie: i begged her last time to vote jenny instead of awohali
(12:13:28 AM) spies8broderick: She told Awohali that she wouldn't change because of his role claim
(12:15:32 AM) spies8stephanie: so my current spy list is jenny, kiara, jasmine, and one of larry, rondak, and cinnamyn
(12:15:57 AM) spies8stephanie: looks like a lot of girls
(12:16:05 AM) spies8broderick: May be just a crazy thing, but seems too many females
(12:16:07 AM) spies8broderick: lol
(12:18:15 AM) spies8stephanie: i'm off to bed -- later
(12:18:21 AM) spies8broderick: Night


Conversation with spies8broderick at 8/1/2010 10:33:45 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(10:33:56 PM) spies8stephanie: hi chef
(10:34:34 PM) spies8broderick: Hey
(10:35:02 PM) spies8stephanie: i am going to be excited to see one of my suspects voted off
(10:35:19 PM) spies8stephanie: i was beginning to feel like claude :-(
(10:35:26 PM) spies8broderick: lol
(10:36:11 PM) spies8broderick: My gut is starting to question it, since like there seems to be like no resistance and largely this episode has seemed quiet. But, could be bad seafood lol
(10:36:42 PM) spies8broderick: Just too many scummy people around here
(10:37:12 PM) spies8stephanie: i think when confirmed cit says his investigaton says you are a spy
(10:37:20 PM) spies8stephanie: you are dead
(10:37:33 PM) spies8broderick: Yeah.
(10:37:34 PM) spies8stephanie: only thing you can do is try to position your team
(10:38:00 PM) spies8broderick: I thought there would be a lot more resistance when Claude brought up that Kiara could just check Awohali - that it would create a door which Jenny could slip through. But, no. lol
(10:38:49 PM) spies8broderick: I think this episode just got screwed p with the Awohali/Kiara/Jenny stuff and the Gertrude/Chance stuff.
(10:38:52 PM) spies8stephanie: and a lot of us were suspicious of jenny before
(10:39:19 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm still not sure about kiara
(10:40:23 PM) spies8broderick: I was suspicious of her before, and kind of put her middle burner with others jumping on her. Then she was saved and Zeke got exiled and her role came out and iwas pissed
(10:40:23 PM) spies8stephanie: and yeah i think the gert/chance stuff was screwing us up for a quite a while
(10:41:09 PM) spies8broderick: That shit has just screwed up my brain. Would've been nice for it to happen before break, so we could all just recollect ourselves - those who didn't know any ways. lol
(10:41:18 PM) spies8stephanie: my blood pressure still goes up when i think about the kiara/zeke exile
(10:41:44 PM) spies8broderick: lol. Mine does too. Same with thinking about Chance/Gertrude and time wasted.
(10:42:05 PM) spies8stephanie: i knew something was up with chance -- tho i didn't know what
(10:42:16 PM) spies8stephanie: and this episode has almost been like a break
(10:42:55 PM) spies8broderick: I suspected there was a role involved, given their behaviors in relation to the other. Yeah, pretty slow. But there are still three spies out there.
(10:43:30 PM) spies8stephanie: and my list is now jenny, kiara, dane, & ?
(10:43:46 PM) spies8stephanie: and i'm not all that sure about kiara and dane
(10:44:14 PM) spies8stephanie: rondak, larry, maybe even jasmine or cinnamyn for number 4?
(10:44:50 PM) spies8broderick: I think Cinnamyn is a spy. Probably one of Rondak/Dane. Rondak is total newbie, but total scummy at the same time. Dane is the same way, but not newbie.
(10:45:10 PM) spies8broderick: Some times it is hard to really judge a person when there isn't much info on them.
(10:47:53 PM) spies8stephanie: what do you think about kiara?
(10:48:31 PM) spies8broderick: She is a spy possibility. Albiet a total sloppy one.
(10:49:05 PM) spies8stephanie: and cinnamyn i put on the list because she was suspicious of jenny in the past, but this last time
(10:49:15 PM) spies8stephanie: wouldn't change off awohali
(10:49:37 PM) spies8stephanie: in spite of me begging her to, and in spite of awohali's claim
(10:50:14 PM) spies8broderick: Yeah. I suspected Cinnamyn before the Awohali claim came out.
(10:50:25 PM) spies8broderick: I thought all three of the cases on Awohali were crap
(10:51:21 PM) spies8stephanie: though i tend to think that cinnamyn was just seduced by jenny
(10:52:35 PM) spies8stephanie: she did tell me that jenny
(10:52:40 PM) spies8stephanie: (10:32:36 PM) spies8cinnamyn: she keepz butterin' me up 1 on 1
(10:53:24 PM) spies8broderick: lol?
(10:53:31 PM) spies8broderick: I thought Cinnamyn suspected Jenny last episode
(10:53:56 PM) spies8stephanie: no cinnamyn was one who posted case on awohali
(10:54:07 PM) spies8stephanie: tho she did suspect jenny before that
(10:54:18 PM) spies8broderick: I know that. but the night of zed going, Cinnamyn had Jenny in her top three
(10:54:46 PM) spies8broderick: I dont recall hearing anything about her dropping Jenny as a suspect last episode
(10:55:12 PM) spies8stephanie: well, she was stuck on awohali last episode
(10:55:30 PM) spies8stephanie: i tried a couple of times to convince her to switch
(10:55:52 PM) spies8broderick: Yeah. She told Awohali that she wasnt going to switch
(10:56:09 PM) spies8broderick: Which just kind of makes it funny that she is completely on his side now
(10:56:27 PM) spies8stephanie: yep
(10:56:39 PM) spies8stephanie: but i am thinking mis-guided cit at the moment
(10:57:09 PM) spies8broderick: well I will agree to disagree for the time being lol
(10:59:36 PM) spies8stephanie: (10:56:51 PM) spies8cinnamyn: steph i feel lyke dis iz my fault
(10:57:06 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah well it is
(10:57:21 PM) spies8stephanie: i thought you were suspicious of jenny at one time?
(10:57:37 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i wuz
(10:57:57 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i nominated her da same round izaac went
(11:01:05 PM) spies8broderick: lol?
(11:01:16 PM) spies8stephanie: is this the same theory about why jenny gave dane her vote back?
(11:01:23 PM) spies8broderick: Why not say, 'i suspected her just the other episode'
(11:01:30 PM) spies8broderick: huh?
(11:02:09 PM) spies8stephanie: that was cinn just after the awohali exile
(11:02:34 PM) spies8stephanie: and when jenny tells you her theory about mary/cinnamyn, let's see if applies to dane
(11:03:06 PM) spies8broderick: lol K. I just wonder why Cinnamyn wouldn't say something more recent, than 'i nominated her @ Isaac exile'
(11:05:50 PM) spies8stephanie: nope actually don't think it applies to dane nvm
(11:13:10 PM) spies8stephanie: picking mary, i am sure because mary voted her last round, more omgus
(11:13:35 PM) spies8broderick: lol
(11:13:42 PM) spies8broderick: Mary did vot eher
(11:14:42 PM) spies8stephanie: and cinnamyn was easily manipulated into putting up a case on awohali
(11:14:56 PM) spies8broderick: lol what?
(11:15:04 PM) spies8broderick: I think she jumped on the awohali train
(11:15:20 PM) spies8stephanie: she did, but i think she had encouragement
(11:15:27 PM) spies8stephanie: from jenny and chance
(11:15:37 PM) spies8broderick: Hmm
(11:16:28 PM) spies8stephanie: (9:57:38 PM) spies8cinnamyn: chance menshined a suspishin of him 2 me last round, but nothing major
(9:57:48 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i decided 2 luk into him and made da post, and jenny sed she suspected him 2

(11:16:46 PM) spies8broderick: lol
(11:16:56 PM) spies8broderick: She told me that morning that she was going to post something on him.
(11:17:32 PM) spies8broderick: I think Mary, or maybe tina. I remember someone mentioning befor eMags was given her vote back - that the spy capatain would get theirs back
(11:19:57 PM) spies8broderick: spies8mary (20:21:54):I bet the Spy team captain gets to pick one Senator too.
(11:20:32 PM) spies8stephanie: hmm
(11:20:40 PM) spies8broderick: Was said @ the time of Owen deciding who to pick for the Senate.
(11:22:09 PM) spies8stephanie: i've had a cit read on mary forever
(11:22:42 PM) spies8stephanie: if she's a spy, she might just win
(11:23:09 PM) spies8broderick: I've had a rather neutral read on her for the longest time. However there are things which have floated around in my head about her since about the beginning
(11:23:33 PM) spies8broderick: Plus something which I just remembered
(11:23:54 PM) spies8broderick: She never seems to post her thoughts publicly
(11:24:24 PM) spies8broderick: At the beginning of the game, in the democrats only i think. we did some chat mafia
(11:24:46 PM) spies8broderick: her and jas were scum together. jas said mary called all the shots. I mentioned it to MAry, and she said that Jas did
(11:25:01 PM) spies8stephanie: lol
(11:25:17 PM) spies8stephanie: she was really fighting to save awohali
(11:25:24 PM) spies8broderick: Mary was?
(11:25:29 PM) spies8stephanie: yes!
(11:25:35 PM) spies8broderick: Why would she fight so much, it was before he claimed yes?
(11:25:47 PM) spies8stephanie: way before he claimed
(11:26:05 PM) spies8stephanie: if he had followed her advice a little more, he might still be here
(11:26:16 PM) spies8broderick: I know I was on his side always, but I only really argued for him once he claimed
(11:26:18 PM) spies8broderick: hm?
(11:28:55 PM) spies8stephanie: (8:01:12 PM) spies8mary: Are you a spy?
(8:01:14 PM) Spies8Awohali: Ha, Mary is a champion indeed.
(8:01:35 PM) spies8mary: If not, I'll be there.
(8:01:56 PM) spies8mary: I think Broderick is probably a Citizen too.
(8:02:22 PM) Spies8Awohali: I lean that way as well.
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(11:29:16 PM) spies8stephanie: (8:01:04 PM) spies8stephanie: bbl -- mary i hope i have you in my corner if i ever am an exile threat

(11:29:30 PM) spies8broderick: She'll be where if he isn't a spy?
(11:29:45 PM) spies8stephanie: in my corner
(11:29:53 PM) spies8broderick: oh
(11:29:53 PM) spies8stephanie: forgot the first line
(11:29:56 PM) spies8stephanie: its last
(11:31:27 PM) spies8stephanie: that was 2 hours before exile and we had already been working on a way to save awohali for a couple of hours
(11:32:02 PM) spies8stephanie: i really thought if we got rondak, we might have a tie
(11:32:42 PM) spies8broderick: ugh, it just pisses me off that he was exiled
(11:32:44 PM) spies8stephanie: and could get claude
(11:33:07 PM) spies8broderick: Claude, the ass who pretty much just sat out 'so he wouldn't raise flags'
(11:33:47 PM) spies8stephanie: is it still possible for him to be a spy?
(11:33:54 PM) spies8broderick: Claude?
(11:33:57 PM) spies8stephanie: yea
(11:34:00 PM) spies8broderick: I think so.
(11:34:10 PM) spies8broderick: I don't think he has ever been 'confirmed citizen' or anything
(11:34:24 PM) spies8stephanie: and what has he been doing with his role?
(11:34:27 PM) spies8stephanie: nothing?
(11:34:34 PM) spies8broderick: Nothing
(11:34:38 PM) spies8broderick: He hasn't been using it
(11:34:51 PM) spies8stephanie: odd
(11:35:03 PM) spies8stephanie: after using it on owen!@!#@
(11:35:58 PM) spies8broderick: he gave a reason why, but I can't remember
(11:36:16 PM) spies8stephanie: he still doesn't trust owen
(11:36:31 PM) spies8stephanie: or didn't
(11:36:37 PM) spies8broderick: Him, Chance, Kiara, and Jenny were discussing OwenSpy
(11:36:45 PM) spies8broderick: I believe, according to Kiara(?) I think
(11:37:00 PM) spies8stephanie: chance has mentioned owen-spy recently
(11:37:46 PM) spies8broderick: Ugh. Chance can go jump off a cliff for all i care. Tired of dealing with him
(11:38:42 PM) spies8stephanie: hehe -- i have thought that it would have been an entirely different game if chance had been exiled in ep 1 or 2
(11:39:15 PM) spies8broderick: mmhmm
(11:39:55 PM) spies8broderick: Even if he hadn't. It would been totally different if there wasn't the whole 'I'm in a Secret Club, so I can't play Publicly' thing going on. lol
(11:40:27 PM) spies8stephanie: yep
(11:41:25 PM) spies8stephanie: plus it was like i'm in a secret club and trying to look as suspicious as possible, but won't tell you haha
(11:41:36 PM) spies8broderick: lol
(11:41:49 PM) spies8broderick: lol. I dont want to think about that shit anymore. Just makes my blood boil
(11:48:26 PM) spies8stephanie: ok, i just put my vote in my confessional
(11:48:40 PM) spies8stephanie: in case of catastrophic computer failure tomorrow
(11:48:46 PM) spies8broderick: lol
(11:48:58 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm off to bed see you tomorrow
(11:49:05 PM) spies8broderick: Cya

[Stephanie]

Owen is back!

Conversation with spies8owen at 8/1/2010 11:12:08 AM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(11:12:08 AM) spies8owen: Hey Steph. Long time no talk.
(11:12:21 AM) spies8stephanie: owen!
(11:12:33 AM) spies8stephanie: wb
(11:12:38 AM) spies8owen: My sleep schedule is so screwed up. :/
(11:12:50 AM) spies8owen: Haven't slept yet. I might as well be in a different time zone.
(11:13:00 AM) spies8owen: Australia would probably work.
(11:13:23 AM) spies8stephanie: lol there was a rumor you had moved to japan
(11:14:17 AM) spies8owen: Hahaha. Anyway, how've you been?
(11:14:35 AM) spies8stephanie: well i am still here -- so that's good
(11:14:48 AM) spies8stephanie: other than that, not so much
(11:15:15 AM) spies8owen: I saw your apology to Cory. It was beautiful.
(11:15:26 AM) spies8stephanie: lol
(11:15:49 AM) spies8owen: I told you, dear.
(11:16:03 AM) spies8stephanie: i actually meant most of it -- i had calmed down by imprisonment
(11:16:28 AM) spies8stephanie: yes, and i told you that zeke was cit, and would have told you that awohali was cit
(11:16:32 AM) spies8owen: Ahh, that's good. I didn't enjoy our night of bickering.
(11:16:47 AM) spies8stephanie: i really did just have a meltdown
(11:16:58 AM) spies8owen: Understandable.
(11:17:04 AM) spies8owen: I've been on the verge of one all game.
(11:17:25 AM) spies8stephanie: so what are you thinking these days?
(11:17:39 AM) spies8owen: I'm thinking that I don't see any reason not to trust Awo.
(11:17:56 AM) spies8owen: Confirmed citizen, even stuck to it on his way out.
(11:18:01 AM) spies8owen: Really don't think he'd screw us like that.
(11:18:11 AM) spies8stephanie: i agree
(11:18:37 AM) spies8owen: And my thinking as to why Kiara would say Awo has a role is because there's WAY too many town roles.
(11:18:42 AM) spies8owen: doesn't have a role****
(11:19:23 AM) spies8owen: That'd make sense if she and Jenny were spies together and she still planned on voting her. Otherwise she would have just said the role was real.
(11:19:36 AM) spies8owen: The less town roles out there (Awo), the more Kiara's can look real.
(11:20:32 AM) spies8stephanie: i've been thinking that kiara's is a real spy role
(11:20:41 AM) spies8stephanie: that she added the guessing part to
(11:20:42 AM) spies8owen: Or not real at all.
(11:21:15 AM) spies8stephanie: possible that it's totally faked
(11:21:40 AM) spies8stephanie: but how would she know for sure that gabe, lilith didn't have roles
(11:21:44 AM) spies8owen: It seems pretty intricate, but someone with a fake role would want it to seem intricate.
(11:21:46 AM) spies8stephanie: seems risky
(11:21:49 AM) spies8owen: Yeah, that's a good point.
(11:21:52 AM) spies8owen: And she knew doc wasn't dead.
(11:22:32 AM) spies8stephanie: i think she added the guessing part to make it look like a cit role
(11:22:41 AM) spies8owen: Very possible.
(11:23:14 AM) spies8owen: You're right though, pretty tough to know that Gabe/Lilith didn't have roles.
(11:23:31 AM) spies8stephanie: the extra investigations would come the dead spies -- who she didn't really need to investigate
(11:24:24 AM) spies8owen: Who else do you think could connect to Jenny?
(11:24:40 AM) spies8owen: Someone she's always defended to me = Dane.
(11:24:50 AM) spies8owen: For someone that rarely takes stances, she does with him.
(11:24:53 AM) spies8stephanie: i keep going back and forth on dane
(11:25:00 AM) spies8owen: Though I've been wondering if she's TRYING to make herself seem connected to Dane.
(11:25:24 AM) spies8stephanie: yep the 98 love points a little too much
(11:26:00 AM) spies8stephanie: of course, my personal opinion of dane also keeps getting in my way
(11:27:55 AM) spies8stephanie: and now dane is protecting kiara?
(11:27:59 AM) spies8stephanie: not good
(11:32:53 AM) spies8owen: Not sure if he's protecting Kiara. The theory makes sense. Last season Irulan did say she'd become a vanilla citizen after her one-use role.
(11:33:01 AM) spies8owen: So, since Awo used his already, he might appear roleless.
(11:33:31 AM) spies8stephanie: possible, but seems unlikely
(11:33:50 AM) spies8owen: If Kiara didn't know about Cory, we could test this theory, since his would fall under the same category.
(11:38:49 AM) spies8stephanie: is there something in ep 4 or 5 that he doesn't want us looking at?
(11:38:52 AM) spies8stephanie: odd
(11:39:02 AM) spies8owen: Yeah, I'm not sure why those rounds wouldn't be important.
(11:39:05 AM) spies8owen: She was in danger epi 4.
(11:39:09 AM) spies8owen: Should look at that too.
(11:41:37 AM) spies8stephanie: i just really dislike dane directing me on what to do
(11:41:50 AM) spies8stephanie: just like his original post on how to bold our votes
(11:41:57 AM) spies8stephanie: really rubs me the wrong way
(11:41:59 AM) spies8owen: Have you still never bolded a vote?
(11:42:05 AM) spies8stephanie: nope
(11:42:09 AM) spies8owen: Hahahaha.
(11:42:25 AM) spies8owen: Don't have to do what he says, do your own thang.
(11:59:17 AM) spies8stephanie: looking back thru my jenny posts, she asked me about 3 times why i voted for dane ep 1?
(11:59:58 AM) spies8owen: She defends Dane a lot in our convos.
(12:00:26 PM) spies8stephanie: yep it's not just a recent thing
(12:03:10 PM) spies8stephanie: after the kiara claim, i think jenny started discussing the number of roles quite a bit
(12:03:29 PM) spies8stephanie: and saying that there were not enough cit roles
(12:03:50 PM) spies8owen: That could make some sense. She didn't know about Chance/Gert at that point. or SHOULDN'T have.
(12:04:09 PM) spies8stephanie: ahh
(12:04:11 PM) spies8stephanie: that's true
(12:04:16 PM) spies8owen: Could be defending Kiara though.
(12:04:17 PM) spies8stephanie: i'd forgotten that
(12:05:42 PM) spies8owen: On Dane:
(12:05:43 PM) spies8owen: (1:29:59 AM) spies8jenny: I might agree with that, but considering how wonderfully that train of thought went with Harold last time, that's not going to do much for me this time around.
(1:30:33 AM) spies8jenny: Especially since I've always had suspicions that they're the same person anyways.
(12:06:01 PM) spies8owen: When I said that when he comes on AIM, all he does is fight.
(12:07:53 PM) spies8stephanie: she said something very similar to me very early on
(12:08:25 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't think she mentioned harold specifically, or if she did, it didn't mean anything to me
(12:09:16 PM) spies8owen: Another thing if Jenny flip scum.
(12:09:24 PM) spies8owen: Is why in the hell would they get you nominated?
(12:09:36 PM) spies8owen: I made it pretty clear to people I talked to that I wasn't voting you.
(12:09:47 PM) spies8owen: Makes me think that the spies were really disconnected from me.
(12:10:39 PM) spies8stephanie: makes no sense, plus i think i would have been nominated anyway
(12:10:40 PM) spies8owen: Or Isaac used the vote coverup when he was leaving just because he figured he would be nominated.
(12:10:52 PM) spies8owen: It was poorly used.
(12:10:56 PM) spies8owen: Or it seems that way.
(12:11:06 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah, maybe it was use it then or not at all, cause he was gonna be dead
(12:12:42 PM) spies8stephanie: what about jasmine?
(12:13:00 PM) spies8owen: What about her?
(12:13:02 PM) spies8stephanie: i have a note written down that i thought jasmine was defending jenny at some point
(12:13:07 PM) spies8stephanie: but i can't find where
(12:13:14 PM) spies8stephanie: and she's voted against her
(12:13:19 PM) spies8owen: I haven't talked to Jasmine since we were Republicans together, I think.
(12:13:27 PM) spies8owen: Mmhmm, voted her when she went on vacation, right?
(12:13:50 PM) spies8owen: Her and Isaac seemed to legitimately dislike each other too.
(12:14:16 PM) spies8owen: Spies can dislike each other though, so I'm unsure on her as of now.
(12:14:35 PM) spies8stephanie: friday night in chat, jasmine seemed oddly lucid and on point to me
(12:14:57 PM) spies8stephanie: she usually has just been disruptive
(12:15:14 PM) spies8owen: Yeah, whenever I've seen her in logs, she's usually OMGUS'ing.
(12:15:27 PM) spies8owen: She seemed experienced?
(12:15:34 PM) spies8owen: That'd go against how I've felt about her.
(12:15:55 PM) spies8stephanie: not experienced, but talking about the game
(12:16:03 PM) spies8owen: That's a nice change.
(12:16:15 PM) spies8owen: Though I lmfao every time I see Hambone calling her pic hot.
(12:16:58 PM) spies8stephanie: hehe
(12:22:01 PM) spies8stephanie: i've gotta go -- good to see you back -- hope to see you later

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8hambone at 8/2/2010 12:35:44 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(12:35:44 PM) spies8hambone: hey
(12:35:53 PM) spies8stephanie: hey long chin
(12:39:54 PM) spies8stephanie: busy day today with all of the questions
(12:40:38 PM) spies8hambone: yup
(12:40:40 PM) spies8hambone: and im making a lot now
(12:40:44 PM) spies8hambone: im gettting pissed off
(12:40:49 PM) spies8hambone: with the game
(12:40:52 PM) spies8hambone: and everyone who is dying
(12:40:58 PM) spies8hambone: its time i make some statements
(12:41:11 PM) spies8hambone: especially before i possiblly lose my vote
(12:41:18 PM) spies8hambone: cuz if i do then i might not make any cases
(12:42:07 PM) spies8stephanie: on the other hand, it might be more satisfying to make cases and have your candidate exiled, even without a vote
(12:42:32 PM) spies8stephanie: i was really frustrated with the zeke exile
(12:43:02 PM) spies8stephanie: and just a little less so with awohali's
(12:49:48 PM) spies8hambone: mhm
(12:57:04 PM) spies8stephanie: you've been pretty focused on jenny; it will be interesting to see what your new cases will be
(12:57:14 PM) spies8stephanie: what are you thinking about kiara?
(12:57:54 PM) spies8stephanie: i am leaning spy on her
(12:58:19 PM) spies8stephanie: i think her role is real, but that she added the part about extra investigations for guessing
(12:58:34 PM) spies8stephanie: to make the role look like a cit-role instead of a spy-role
(1:02:48 PM) spies8hambone: kiara and jasmine i have 0 idea
(1:02:51 PM) spies8hambone: same with brody
(1:03:01 PM) spies8hambone: kiara im slightly leaning spy though as well
(1:03:12 PM) spies8hambone: because she voted for jenny 2 weeks ago with admittingly no reason why
(1:03:52 PM) spies8stephanie: broderick and i got off to a rocky start, but i've started to like him more lately
(1:04:02 PM) spies8stephanie: has he calmed down some?
(1:04:13 PM) spies8hambone: ya
(1:04:21 PM) spies8stephanie: i've always been cit on him tho
(1:04:44 PM) spies8stephanie: i posted in my confessional a plea for the spies to take him
(1:05:15 PM) spies8stephanie: i asked sam to pass it along to them
(1:05:23 PM) spies8stephanie: but i don't suppose he did
(1:05:47 PM) spies8stephanie: i think lilith and jasmine did the same
(1:06:00 PM) spies8hambone: lol wtf
(1:12:17 PM) spies8stephanie: so who are your 3 spy picks after jenny?
(1:12:30 PM) spies8hambone: ur not the first to ask me this haha
(1:12:36 PM) spies8hambone: brondak and dane, and ?
(1:12:39 PM) spies8hambone: well
(1:12:41 PM) spies8hambone: it depends
(1:12:43 PM) spies8hambone: on how dane
(1:12:45 PM) spies8hambone: answers the questions
(1:12:47 PM) spies8hambone: im about to ask him
(1:12:53 PM) spies8hambone: hbu?
(1:13:03 PM) spies8stephanie: kiara
(1:13:18 PM) spies8hambone: 2 more!
(1:13:43 PM) spies8stephanie: and then i've got a pool of dane, rondak, jasmine, perhaps even claude for the final 2
(1:13:59 PM) spies8stephanie: probably in more or less that order
(1:14:11 PM) spies8stephanie: might even throw you in there
(1:14:11 PM) spies8hambone: haha
(1:14:18 PM) spies8hambone: so we're in the same boat as usual, u and me
(1:14:32 PM) spies8stephanie: oh and larry
(1:14:44 PM) spies8stephanie: dane, rondak, larry, jasmine
(1:14:51 PM) spies8stephanie: for the initial pool
(1:14:59 PM) spies8stephanie: with you and claude as backups
(1:15:20 PM) spies8hambone: ME? :-D
(1:15:44 PM) spies8stephanie: you're pretty far down on the list
(1:15:56 PM) spies8hambone: id love to hear why im a spy :-)
(1:16:11 PM) spies8hambone: or a backup suspect even
(1:16:25 PM) spies8stephanie: i'll be sure and let you know when i figure out why you're a spy
(1:16:35 PM) spies8hambone: ahhahaha
(1:16:39 PM) spies8hambone: lol <3
(1:16:53 PM) spies8hambone: im the same way
(1:17:08 PM) spies8hambone: there are several ppl i suspect but like, based off nothin but gut
(1:18:52 PM) spies8stephanie: and i am of course assuming that jenny flips spy
(1:18:59 PM) spies8hambone: she will
(1:19:04 PM) spies8stephanie: if she flips cit i am going to be totally lost
(1:19:29 PM) spies8stephanie: i am confident that she will
(1:19:30 PM) spies8hambone: YOU!?
(1:19:32 PM) spies8hambone: what about ME
(1:19:35 PM) spies8hambone: ill be lost
(1:19:41 PM) spies8stephanie: rofl
(1:21:41 PM) spies8hambone: im making a very good post right now
(1:21:53 PM) spies8stephanie: yay!
(1:21:54 PM) spies8hambone: i feel like ive been slacking ever since allan used that role on me
(1:22:00 PM) spies8hambone: cuz that put me down a lot
(1:25:59 PM) spies8hambone: whats chances role called?
(1:26:03 PM) spies8hambone: i forget
(1:33:16 PM) spies8stephanie: the devil?
(1:34:13 PM) spies8stephanie: or a mason?
(1:36:42 PM) spies8hambone: devil
(1:40:08 PM) spies8hambone: okkk
(1:40:11 PM) spies8hambone: i posted like half of it
(1:40:27 PM) spies8stephanie: *runs to read*
(1:41:08 PM) spies8hambone: refresh it
(1:41:10 PM) spies8hambone: i edited somethin
(1:44:45 PM) spies8stephanie: some good questions -- i am looking forward to the answers!
(1:44:51 PM) spies8hambone: same :-)
(1:52:53 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm out for a bit - bbl