Episode 5 conversations

[Stephanie]

Finally talk to the illusive Awohali! He went offline at the end, but I just kept talking.
Conversation with spies8awohali at 7/8/2010 11:57:40 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(12:24:35 AM) spies8stephanie: hi awohali
(12:24:41 AM) spies8stephanie: first time i've seen you
(12:25:00 AM) Spies8Awohali: Hello there Stephanie, liekwise. I am pleased to meet you.
(12:25:08 AM) spies8stephanie: likewise
(12:25:46 AM) spies8stephanie: so what are you making of game so far?
(12:26:36 AM) Spies8Awohali: It is an interesting roller coaster of sorts. Very few people stand out as being Citizen-l;ike, while many have done suspicious things. There are also too many people that I can not catch online, unfortunately.
(12:27:48 AM) spies8stephanie: and a few people do stand out to me as cit like: owen, tina, (themba, nita)
(12:28:33 AM) spies8stephanie: i think cit-like for me is mostly gut based on talking with them
(12:28:50 AM) spies8stephanie: spy-like is harder
(12:29:17 AM) spies8stephanie: and obv my gut isn't that good
(12:29:38 AM) Spies8Awohali: Indeed... Really a gut is important in gauging citizenness. What exactly, if anything specific, seems Cit-like about Owen and Tina?
(12:31:22 AM) spies8stephanie: tina, i was talking to when she first brought up her suspicions about alex
(12:31:39 AM) spies8stephanie: what alex was currently doing in the main chat
(12:31:58 AM) spies8stephanie: after alex flipped, i was convinced on her
(12:32:51 AM) spies8stephanie: owen i was actually suspicious of at one time, but talked to quite a bit and was leaning cit, but was glad to get some confirmation on it when he voted out isaac last night
(12:32:54 AM) Spies8Awohali: Did you worry at all that she did not actually wind up voting for him?
(12:33:00 AM) spies8stephanie: no
(12:33:24 AM) spies8stephanie: i think that was well-explained, by the last minute HQ remark by Zeke
(12:33:45 AM) spies8stephanie: everybody starts 2nd guessing themselves
(12:33:56 AM) spies8stephanie: and tina did and changed her vote
(12:34:32 AM) Spies8Awohali: I understand that, I just wanted to make sure by asking, and not assuming anything.
(12:35:25 AM) spies8stephanie: ok, sure -- and themba did the same thing -- switched at last hour -- i was also pretty sure she was cit
(12:36:27 AM) Spies8Awohali: And it turns out that she was, so that was a good call on your part. And I agree that Owen voting Isaac is a splendid sign. I do not know him very well yet, but I hope to eventually.
(12:37:25 AM) spies8stephanie: i hate to admit to being like jenny, but i def feel more sure of my cit reads than my spy reads
(12:37:50 AM) spies8stephanie: tho i am absolutely positive that one of my cit reads will end up being a spy in the end
(12:38:18 AM) Spies8Awohali: At least in your case, I am hoping, you are not actually focusing on Cit reads rather than Spy reads... Who are your top 3 suspects, by the way?
(12:38:36 AM) spies8stephanie: lawrence is still by far my top
(12:38:52 AM) spies8stephanie: chance
(12:39:17 AM) spies8stephanie: then maybe jasmine
(12:39:21 AM) spies8stephanie: kiara?
(12:39:43 AM) spies8stephanie: rondak?
(12:40:13 AM) spies8stephanie: there they are the 5 spies
(12:40:23 AM) Spies8Awohali: I see that we share similar suspicions on several fronts here. What is the main thing that bothers you about Lawrence?
(12:41:53 AM) spies8stephanie: when he first came into the republicans he told gabe, tina, & me (actually copied/pasted) that he had gut spy read on brod, most suspicious of jasmine, was going to make a case on isaac
(12:42:21 AM) spies8stephanie: that seemed a little suspicious to start with -- everyone that came over with him was a spy?
(12:43:36 AM) spies8stephanie: then he told tina under pressure that he would vote for either isaac or themba whom he had never met
(12:44:05 AM) spies8stephanie: when i asked him later about the isaac case, he just pointed me to jasmine's post on him
(12:44:42 AM) spies8stephanie: not making the case on spy-isaac that he he said he was going to seems a little more suspicious now
(12:49:29 AM) spies8stephanie: plus -- i'll just keep talking even tho you're not here -- cause i want to make this case on larry
(12:50:25 AM) spies8stephanie: plus -- his vote on me he said is based on his believe that i was voting with alexei
(12:51:11 AM) spies8stephanie: i told him, and tina confirmed (as any of republicans could), that alexei followed my vote onto dane
(12:51:58 AM) spies8stephanie: it appears that alex was jumping on cit wagons as best he could
(12:52:20 AM) spies8stephanie: when questioned about his reasons for voting dane he replied its what steph said
(12:52:46 AM) spies8stephanie: ok gn

[Stephanie]

Asking about the bribes like I thought I'd get a straight answer.
Conversation with spies8chance at 7/8/2010 9:59:28 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(10:00:06 PM) spies8stephanie: chance i am speculating about there having been private bribes
(10:00:18 PM) spies8stephanie: i think gerts
(10:00:24 PM) spies8stephanie: vote was bought
(10:00:42 PM) spies8chance: ah. gertie voted whom, again?
(10:00:45 PM) spies8stephanie: and that somehow either by briber or bribee caused the vote fog
(10:00:59 PM) spies8stephanie: she voted rondak, presumably
(10:01:30 PM) spies8stephanie: did you receive a bribe to nullify your vote?
(10:01:40 PM) spies8chance: how do you think th bribe and the vote fog are related?
(10:01:43 PM) spies8chance: no, i did not.
(10:02:23 PM) spies8stephanie: well, i think it makes more sense than the confusion theory
(10:03:07 PM) spies8chance: confusion theory?
(10:03:32 PM) spies8stephanie: that the fog was to cause confusion
(10:04:08 PM) spies8chance: i think it's likely one of claude/rondak is a spy, mostly becuase you were pushed up there in their place.
(10:04:33 PM) spies8stephanie: and i don't think that really holds water
(10:04:41 PM) spies8chance: why not?
(10:04:51 PM) spies8stephanie: neither one of them was likely to be exiled by owen
(10:05:08 PM) spies8chance: did the spies know that?
(10:05:10 PM) spies8stephanie: why use the fog power at that point
(10:05:28 PM) spies8stephanie: yea, i think everyone knew it
(10:06:04 PM) spies8chance: so you think the fog power was used so someone wouldnt reveal that they were bribed with their vote?
(10:06:11 PM) spies8stephanie: YES
(10:06:33 PM) spies8stephanie: and i suspect that you might have been also bribed
(10:06:45 PM) spies8chance: really? on what basis?
(10:07:06 PM) spies8stephanie: well, i suspect that the bribees are you and gert who were both made immune
(10:07:37 PM) spies8stephanie: you got lucky when claude stole your vote
(10:07:38 PM) spies8chance: why do you think bribes and exile immunity are in any way connected?
(10:07:47 PM) spies8chance: and why is that 'lucky'?
(10:08:14 PM) spies8stephanie: cause we don't know who you were bribed to vote for
(10:08:42 PM) spies8chance: first off, bribes are done for cash. not immunity. i'm not sure where you're getting that.
(10:08:52 PM) spies8stephanie: this all started cause i couldn't figure out why anyone would make gertrude immune
(10:09:17 PM) spies8chance: secondly - oh, i get it. you think i got lucky because claude stole my vote, so i couldn't vote for whoever i was 'bribed' to vote for.
(10:09:21 PM) spies8stephanie: i could see you, but i couldn't figure out why gert?
(10:10:02 PM) spies8chance: still, though, i wasn't bribed, and i don't see what connection you're drawing between bribes and immunity.
(10:10:27 PM) spies8chance: and do you think people who were bribed are spies? i was considering if dane was innocent or not on the way home tonight because of that.
(10:10:49 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't think it would be fair to let only one side offer bribes
(10:11:01 PM) spies8stephanie: so i haven't quite worked all that out yet
(10:11:18 PM) spies8chance: so you think there's a way for the cits to bribe people? interesting.
(10:11:46 PM) spies8stephanie: i think there would have to be -- tho i have no clue how that would actually work -- but it would seem fair
(10:12:35 PM) spies8stephanie: i think most people are thinking that bribers are spies
(10:13:59 PM) spies8chance: good point, but i don't, in general, like to try and 'game the mod'.
(10:14:08 PM) spies8chance: plus the only public bribe so far has been via the spies.
(10:14:53 PM) spies8stephanie: it was when sam said during exile 3 that we have had our first "public" bribe, that i immediately thought that there must have been private bribes
(10:15:28 PM) spies8stephanie: plus we're into episode 4 of "the bribe" and only 1 so far
(10:15:31 PM) spies8chance: oh i don't disagree there.
(10:15:52 PM) spies8chance: however, i wouldn't assume automatically that any private bribes were accepted.
(10:16:07 PM) spies8chance: i'm sure there was the option to accept or decline, like in dane's.
(10:16:35 PM) spies8stephanie: and private bribes would be way easier to accept, particularly in early round
(10:16:44 PM) spies8chance: how so?
(10:18:04 PM) spies8stephanie: how so? no stigma of having taken a bribe if it is public; in early rounds no one knows wtf is up and who is voting for whom
(10:18:24 PM) spies8chance: that's true, i guess.
(10:21:18 PM) spies8chance: but, again, not seeing the connection between bribes and immunity because cash is involved.
(10:21:47 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah well that's why everyone thinks i'm crazy
(10:22:09 PM) spies8chance: i'm not sure i'd go with crazy, if that makes you feel any better.
(10:22:22 PM) spies8stephanie:
(10:22:54 PM) spies8chance: however, i wasn't bribed, so i don't think gertie was (on basis of your immunity theory).
(10:38:30 PM) spies8chance: mind explaining to me why you voted for lawrence?
(10:39:18 PM) spies8stephanie: when he first came over to the republicans he was throwing around suspicions on his fellow democrats
(10:39:32 PM) spies8stephanie: suspecting everyone and hoping to have one stick
(10:40:03 PM) spies8stephanie: he was gut spy on broderick, most suspicious of jasmine, was preparing a case on isaac
(10:40:18 PM) spies8chance: so he offered up suspicions of the people he'd been with the longest? doesn't sound overly bad to me.
(10:40:20 PM) spies8stephanie: but never actually prepared that case
(10:40:34 PM) spies8chance: has he been away or something? i haven't seen him online.
(10:40:43 PM) spies8stephanie: he's never been here
(10:41:08 PM) spies8stephanie: so where he got all these suspicions from is a mystery
(10:41:24 PM) spies8chance: well, he was here prior to the switch, and he was with brod, jas, and isaac, so...
(10:42:33 PM) spies8stephanie: i thought it all way too odd: he was most suspicous of jasmine, but when tina pressed him on a vote he said isaac or themba whom he had never met
(10:42:41 PM) spies8stephanie: inconsistent at best
(10:43:14 PM) spies8chance: i would like to ask him about why he said themba. however, he did say he was making a case on isaac, so obviously he was suspicious of him.
(10:44:02 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah, but then never made the case
(10:44:19 PM) spies8stephanie: which i find even more suspicious now that i know isaac was a spy
(10:49:52 PM) spies8stephanie: and then there was his vote on me
(10:50:12 PM) spies8stephanie: which i try not to omgus too much, but omgus
(10:50:17 PM) spies8chance: hahaha.
(10:50:40 PM) spies8stephanie: i pointed out the fallacy in his theory that i voted with alexei and tina confirmed it to him, but
(10:50:48 PM) spies8stephanie: he continues to vote for me

Conversation with spies8gertrude at 7/8/2010 10:20:49 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(10:20:57 PM) spies8stephanie: hey gert
(10:21:08 PM) spies8gertrude: Hey there, Stephanie!
(10:21:26 PM) spies8stephanie: so did you take a bribe to get your immunity?
(10:21:32 PM) spies8gertrude: I did not.
(10:22:10 PM) spies8stephanie: let me try again...did you take a bribe?
(10:22:19 PM) spies8gertrude: No.
(10:22:38 PM) spies8gertrude: Care to try again?
(10:23:04 PM) spies8stephanie: is it possible that your immunity might have been caused by someone taking a bribe?
(10:23:20 PM) spies8gertrude: It's possible, I suppose. But I doubt it.
(10:23:36 PM) spies8stephanie: ok that's why everyone thinks i'm crazy
(10:23:46 PM) spies8stephanie: how are you otherwise?
(10:24:17 PM) spies8gertrude: I'm doing pretty good.
(10:24:21 PM) spies8gertrude: You?
(10:24:40 PM) spies8gertrude: I agree with you, by the way, that there have been private bribes.
(10:25:03 PM) spies8gertrude: Why express that there have been public ones if not.

[Stephanie]

Mostly incomprehensible chat (no wonder they think I'm crazy) with Tina. Some of it might make more sense when read along with the chat log that I was commenting on. Dane was comparing Lilith and Yuri.
Conversation with spies8tina at 7/8/2010 11:03:33 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(11:03:39 PM) spies8stephanie: tina?
(11:03:48 PM) spies8tina: Yes?
(11:04:03 PM) spies8stephanie: so that post that cinn just linked to
(11:04:19 PM) spies8stephanie: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=748
(11:04:43 PM) spies8tina: Yes?
(11:04:53 PM) spies8stephanie: issac says some concerns about claude, chance seems a little off
(11:05:09 PM) spies8tina: Claude I am fairly sure he is not partners with.
(11:05:12 PM) spies8stephanie: ok with that
(11:05:18 PM) spies8tina: Chance is up in the air.
(11:05:25 PM) spies8stephanie: but then he says lilith he hasn't talked to
(11:05:28 PM) spies8tina: I can see it going both ways very easily.
(11:05:31 PM) spies8stephanie: so has no read
(11:05:38 PM) spies8tina: For that reason, I am not ready to nominate him.
(11:05:52 PM) spies8tina: I want to see what Chance does when Claude is officially off limits.
(11:05:54 PM) spies8stephanie: there are 12 other people on the team, why say he has no read on lilith
(11:06:02 PM) spies8stephanie: did he have a read on mags?
(11:06:12 PM) spies8tina: Not sure on Magalie.
(11:06:22 PM) spies8tina: He said this about her *searches*.
(11:06:29 PM) spies8stephanie: just seems strange that he would single lilith out
(11:06:48 PM) spies8tina:
spies8tina (2:59:14 PM): Magalie. Almost for sure at this point.
spies8tina (2:59:36 PM): Seems to be a useless, abrassive and slightly scummy case going.
spies8isaac (2:59:57 PM): For good reasons too, it's just odd though with all the leads they already had and Zed telling me your guys strongest leads went there too.
spies8isaac (3:00:19 PM): Very abrassive and rude..,

(11:07:19 PM) spies8stephanie: the topic of thread, who are your suspicions?
(11:07:53 PM) spies8stephanie: and he mentions 2 and then says he doesn't have a read on lil?
(11:08:25 PM) spies8stephanie: sry
(11:08:45 PM) spies8stephanie: or maybe re-reading he's saying he does have a susp cause he hasn't talked to her
(11:09:25 PM) spies8stephanie: nvm -- just another crazy notion -- you are my recipient and grounder
(11:09:59 PM) spies8tina: I heard old-Lil was abrasive then disappeared.
(11:10:11 PM) spies8tina: I think first ep she showed up first about 24 hours to exile.
(11:10:49 PM) spies8stephanie: well i actully talked to her before teams, and she did say she was going to be away
(11:11:21 PM) spies8stephanie: but she wasn't abrasive, but maybe a little weird
(11:11:25 PM) spies8tina: It was announced, but her not being there could have made him throw it in.
(11:12:06 PM) spies8stephanie: yep, sry, on first read i thought i was onto something, but not on rereading
(11:22:09 PM) spies8stephanie: but i dont' think that's all lil does, do you?
(11:22:18 PM) spies8tina: Most of her ideas are gut based.
(11:22:43 PM) spies8stephanie: she does reread past events!
(11:23:18 PM) spies8tina: Right, he is overexaggerating a bit.
(11:28:14 PM) spies8stephanie: omg this is so irritating
(11:29:03 PM) spies8stephanie: the guru telling us about past events -- why doesn't he know anything about the current effing game?
(11:43:14 PM) spies8stephanie: but jenny helped her anyway?
(11:43:50 PM) spies8tina: Not sure. It sounds like Nita came to Jenny and said "I think you are a spy, I am third party that needs to eventually do a few things that will help you to win. Do not imprison me."
(11:44:13 PM) spies8stephanie: i still think jenny helped with allan claiming to nita
(11:44:23 PM) spies8stephanie: i know she denies it, but...
(11:50:47 PM) spies8stephanie: am i the only one that finds dane so irritating?
(11:50:58 PM) spies8tina: He is irritating.
(11:51:11 PM) spies8tina: I just cannot decide much on him.
(11:51:38 PM) spies8stephanie: i just want to start bitching at him, but just don't have quite enough energy left today to do it
(11:52:11 PM) spies8stephanie: my opinion has been useless ass cit since alex's flip
(11:52:24 PM) spies8stephanie: but i'm willing to reconsider to useless ass spy
(11:54:18 PM) spies8tina: Still lean cit, but it is a continually slipping read.
(11:54:56 PM) spies8stephanie: chance really seemed to be defending larry to me earlier when i talked to him
(11:55:10 PM) spies8stephanie: def making me lean more spy on chance
(11:55:16 PM) spies8tina: Heh.
(11:55:33 PM) spies8stephanie: why would anyone even bother defending larry?
(11:56:48 PM) spies8stephanie: this is actually the first time i've seen awohali
(11:57:23 PM) spies8stephanie: and we have to have this insane dribble
(12:09:41 AM) spies8stephanie: (12:09:11 AM) spies8jenny: When he came back from fake quitting, in fact the day before exile, was when he told Ni-Ni after asking my opinion about it.
(12:09:50 AM) spies8stephanie: so she admits she helped

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8cinnamyn at 7/7/2010 11:19:18 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(11:19:29 PM) spies8stephanie: congrats, girl
(11:21:17 PM) spies8cinnamyn: thx honey.! sorry i wuz gettin' my shit togetha 4 da nite
(11:21:21 PM) spies8cinnamyn: im jus' glad we got izaac
(11:21:29 PM) spies8stephanie: me too!
(11:22:08 PM) spies8stephanie: though, i ended up in the jenny camp
(11:22:19 PM) spies8cinnamyn: me 2, but still
(11:22:31 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i feel confident 2 dat we can get anotha 1 wit' mary owen n' me
(11:22:49 PM) spies8stephanie: i am so glad you won
(11:22:59 PM) spies8stephanie: i was worried it was going to be kiara
(11:23:21 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i lyke kiara, but i dont totally get her suspishinz
(11:23:38 PM) spies8stephanie: i just distrust her
(11:23:52 PM) spies8cinnamyn: y.?
(11:23:53 PM) spies8stephanie: no real suspicions
(11:23:57 PM) spies8cinnamyn: o
(11:24:34 PM) spies8stephanie: it's probably that she just doesn't agree with me
(11:25:08 PM) spies8stephanie: when she first started as new kiara, i told her i thought themba was a cit and told her exactly why
(11:25:30 PM) spies8stephanie: and she just ignored my advice and voted themba twice or thrice anyway
(11:25:36 PM) spies8cinnamyn: hmm
(11:25:41 PM) spies8cinnamyn: did she say y she didnt agree wit' u.?
(11:25:45 PM) spies8stephanie: nope
(11:26:08 PM) spies8stephanie: she was brand new and didn't have a clue, so it probably doens't mean a thing
(11:26:17 PM) spies8stephanie: but it means i don't really trust he
(11:26:19 PM) spies8stephanie: her
(11:26:38 PM) spies8cinnamyn: may b a spy gave her a gud enuf case against themba dat she wuz willin' 2 buy it
(11:26:45 PM) spies8cinnamyn: n' take advantage of sum1 new
(11:27:52 PM) spies8stephanie: well clearly themba was suspected
(11:28:00 PM) spies8stephanie: since she was exiled
(11:28:13 PM) spies8stephanie: so it wouldn't have to be a spy who convinced her
(11:29:07 PM) spies8cinnamyn: tru
(11:29:26 PM) spies8cinnamyn: doez n e 1 stand out 2 u az suspishis after izaac turned up spy.?
(11:29:54 PM) spies8stephanie: since i hardly talked to isaac, it doesn't give me much
(11:30:07 PM) spies8stephanie: he did seem to be on jasmine's ass a lot
(11:30:30 PM) spies8cinnamyn: yea he did
(11:30:44 PM) spies8cinnamyn: n' nobody really defended him eitha
(11:30:52 PM) spies8stephanie: but i don't really think that clears jas, or at least, i hope not
(11:31:18 PM) spies8stephanie: i may need to reconsider her, she's been in my spy column
(11:31:32 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i want 2 luk at da rondak voterz
(11:31:38 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i have not heard a gud reazin 2 exile him
(11:32:13 PM) spies8stephanie: well, i think i originally brought him up
(11:32:35 PM) spies8stephanie: with the stupidest reason in the world according to nita and kiara
(11:32:45 PM) spies8stephanie: the whole asking about bussing twice
(11:33:24 PM) spies8cinnamyn: but u didnt vote 4 him
(11:33:34 PM) spies8stephanie: which i still think is suspicious, but not enough to vote for him
(11:33:44 PM) spies8stephanie: but certainly enough to keep an eye on
(11:34:01 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i jus' dont get how rondak cud b da mos' suspishis out of errybody left
(11:34:29 PM) spies8stephanie: plus i thought i needed to bring it up, cause the first time he asked was privately in a chat with me
(11:34:54 PM) spies8stephanie: and i didn't know if he had brought it up privately with other people or not
(11:35:27 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah, rondak's pretty far down, when you compare him with jenny
(11:35:56 PM) spies8cinnamyn: when i asked lilith y she suspected him, it wuz bcuz she had a dream dat he wuz a spy
(11:35:59 PM) spies8cinnamyn: and wanted 2 test out her theory
(11:37:17 PM) spies8stephanie: wtf was up with the dream vote?
(11:37:29 PM) spies8stephanie: i like lilith, but wtf?
(11:37:41 PM) spies8cinnamyn: it wuz dat, combined with 1 snippet frum chat she found suspishis
(11:39:30 PM) spies8stephanie: so tina is worried about being imprisoned, but i think you and mary should be more worried
(11:40:02 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i think so 2
(11:40:19 PM) spies8stephanie: what do you think about mary and owen?
(11:40:34 PM) spies8stephanie: i told owen that he had to be cit, or we were doomed
(11:40:41 PM) spies8cinnamyn: tha only 2 ppl i got a cit read on frum da old demz were mary n' awohali
(11:40:45 PM) spies8cinnamyn: so i am gud wit' mary gettin her vote
(11:41:05 PM) spies8stephanie: i have never even seen awohali
(11:41:16 PM) spies8stephanie: much less talked to him
(11:41:24 PM) spies8cinnamyn: owen, i think wit' da way he showed hisself dis exile
(11:41:25 PM) spies8stephanie: but he seems solid from his posts
(11:41:27 PM) spies8cinnamyn: he a cit 4 shure
(11:41:55 PM) spies8cinnamyn: unless jenny also flips spy
(11:42:01 PM) spies8cinnamyn: which cud very well happen
(11:42:10 PM) spies8stephanie: do you still think jenny is spy?
(11:42:38 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't think the isaac flip says much about jenny, does it?
(11:42:47 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i personally dont think so
(11:43:06 PM) spies8cinnamyn: but, it doez make sum ppl more suspishis den i previously thot
(11:43:08 PM) spies8cinnamyn: lyke chance
(11:43:55 PM) spies8stephanie: chance?
(11:44:01 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm not seeing it
(11:44:19 PM) spies8cinnamyn: hiz post about a theory wit' jenny
(11:44:32 PM) spies8cinnamyn: cud have been an attempt 2 thro her under da bus
(11:44:36 PM) spies8cinnamyn: tho that wud rely on her bein' a cit..
(11:46:13 PM) spies8stephanie: i didn't think that post made any sense at all, since the first assumption was that gabe was the doc
(11:46:58 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i still dont no who the doc was, let alone b able 2 base a theory off of it
(11:47:07 PM) spies8cinnamyn: or still iz, i guess, if they still alive
(11:47:54 PM) spies8stephanie: well, i had one of my wild ass guesses that it was themba, but that proved to be just as bad as most of my wild ass guesses
(11:48:05 PM) spies8stephanie: but i don't think it was gabe
(11:48:14 PM) spies8cinnamyn: n' we no it aint nita
(11:48:18 PM) spies8cinnamyn: so..guess dey still alive
(11:48:20 PM) spies8stephanie: and i'm sure that gabe would not have told allan
(11:51:12 PM) spies8stephanie: tho he might have told nita...still i don't think he was doc
(11:51:52 PM) spies8stephanie: i have no idea what to make of mags
(11:52:03 PM) spies8stephanie: she's just totally off the wall crazy
(11:52:21 PM) spies8cinnamyn: she doez really, really weird thingz
(11:52:28 PM) spies8cinnamyn: but i think she used 2 playin' a difrent type of game
(11:52:35 PM) spies8stephanie: but at least she showed up tonight
(11:53:23 PM) spies8stephanie: and when i talked 1on1 with her, she seemed more or less ok
(11:53:28 PM) spies8cinnamyn: spies8magalie (10:46:28 PM): Jenny if you win this just know that I didnt vote for you
(11:53:35 PM) spies8cinnamyn: dat makes me think she out of her element
(11:53:51 PM) spies8cinnamyn: cuz she tryin' 2 get on jennyz gud side by sayin she didnt vote 4 her..lmbo
(11:53:54 PM) spies8stephanie: have to agree there
(11:55:46 PM) spies8cinnamyn: i still think itz weird dat she parroted nitas susipshins, but may b datz jus' cuz she wuz not around a lot n' wanted 2 luk lyke she wuz tryin'
(11:56:26 PM) spies8stephanie: oh i forgot about that..that was totally weird when i read she suspected me
(11:56:34 PM) spies8stephanie: i didn't even know who she was
(11:56:49 PM) spies8cinnamyn: but i mean..
(11:57:01 PM) spies8cinnamyn: she even admitted dat she wuz jus' tryin' 2 luk lyke she new wut wuz goin' on
(11:57:08 PM) spies8stephanie: i actually asked someone during imprisonment, who is that chick that looks like an older, sluttier kiara?

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8lilith at 7/7/2010 8:48:38 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(8:48:53 PM) spies8stephanie: hi lil
(8:49:20 PM) spies8lilith: Hey
(8:49:35 PM) spies8stephanie: o
(8:49:45 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm not sure what to think about claude
(8:50:13 PM) spies8lilith: I think if he is town he has tunnel vision.
(8:50:15 PM) spies8lilith: :-P
(8:50:39 PM) spies8lilith: Maybe me having an openmind about everything is bad because I keep changing it, LOL.
(8:50:58 PM) spies8stephanie: what are you making of the vote fog?
(8:51:15 PM) spies8lilith: Either Rondak or Claude trying to keep themselves out of the top 3.
(8:51:20 PM) spies8lilith: Or someone trying to screw with us.
(8:51:42 PM) spies8stephanie: my thoughts now are leaning towards being connected with a bribe somehow
(8:51:53 PM) spies8lilith: I think it could also *POSSIBLY* be a citizen's role who just didn't want Rondak or Claude to go up... OR an inventor role who gave somebody this 1-time ability.
(8:52:03 PM) spies8lilith: Are bribes made public?
(8:52:09 PM) spies8stephanie: one was
(8:52:17 PM) spies8lilith: I just assumed they all were :-P.
(8:52:18 PM) spies8lilith: lol
(8:52:32 PM) spies8stephanie: last exile sam said we have had our first public bribe
(8:52:39 PM) spies8lilith: Ahhhh, ok.
(8:52:50 PM) spies8stephanie: which immediately led me down the private bribe path
(8:53:20 PM) spies8stephanie: i was actually very interested in seeing if gertrude had a vote this time
(8:53:29 PM) spies8lilith: ?
(8:53:35 PM) spies8lilith: What do you mean a vote?
(8:53:36 PM) spies8lilith: lol
(8:53:37 PM) spies8stephanie: or if her immunity also took away her vote
(8:53:47 PM) spies8lilith: oooo
(8:53:55 PM) spies8stephanie: a vote for nomination
(8:54:29 PM) spies8stephanie: still don't understand why anyone would make gertrude immune
(8:54:37 PM) spies8stephanie: except gertrude
(8:54:45 PM) spies8stephanie: was she on anybody's radar?
(8:54:53 PM) spies8lilith: Chance was immune before.
(8:55:03 PM) spies8lilith: She wasn't on teh radar, making me think it's kinda randomish?
(8:55:27 PM) spies8stephanie: sam's post said that it was the result of a role
(8:55:32 PM) spies8stephanie: who knows
(8:56:53 PM) spies8stephanie: i had some complicated theory about claude's role being totally bogus and chance's immunity and no-vote being due to a bribe
(8:57:01 PM) spies8stephanie: and the same thing happened with gert
(8:57:15 PM) spies8stephanie: but there are way too many holes in the theory
(8:57:21 PM) spies8stephanie: as tina pointed out to me
(8:57:53 PM) spies8stephanie: anyway we should know if allan can confirm claude's role
(8:58:08 PM) spies8lilith: Allan supposedly did, but only to Claude in private PM (huh?).
(8:58:26 PM) spies8stephanie: what good does that do?
(8:58:35 PM) spies8lilith: I don't know.
(8:58:56 PM) spies8stephanie: gonna ask claude...
(8:59:25 PM) spies8stephanie: or try to
(9:01:40 PM) spies8stephanie: and allan's never around to ask
(9:01:55 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't think dane is actually playing the game
(9:03:44 PM) spies8lilith: Has he done anything recently?
(9:03:57 PM) spies8stephanie: he hasn't done anything ever as far as i can tell
(9:04:24 PM) spies8stephanie: tried to confuse the vote fog thread by saying something wrong about ties
(9:04:53 PM) spies8stephanie: picked me out to vote and hasn't voted anyone else, or even looked at anyone else
(9:05:00 PM) spies8stephanie: or even kept up at all
(9:05:01 PM) spies8lilith: Oh, I thought that was just him being dumb, I already know he isn't a very smart person, LOL.
(9:06:00 PM) spies8stephanie: the two people i'd like imprisoned: dane and broderick
(9:06:07 PM) spies8lilith: Really?
(9:06:10 PM) spies8lilith: Ooo! Imprisoned!
(9:06:16 PM) spies8lilith: I don't think that'll happen yet, LOL.
(9:06:27 PM) spies8lilith: I have a theory they are going after the innocent original republicans.
(9:06:28 PM) spies8stephanie: no, but i can keep hoping
(9:06:39 PM) spies8lilith: And by innocent, I mean "widely-viewed as citizen" people.
(9:06:43 PM) spies8stephanie: cause the doc is there?
(9:06:45 PM) spies8lilith: I think you or Tina will be next.
(9:06:49 PM) spies8lilith: Not just the doctor.
(9:07:03 PM) spies8lilith: But the whole "More reps. than the dem." side thing strikes me as odd.
(9:07:13 PM) spies8lilith: Like a rumor made up by the spies or something.
(9:07:21 PM) spies8stephanie: jenny?
(9:07:42 PM) spies8lilith: And thinking about it, if they DO keep imprisoning original republicans, people will say "Look! We only hit 1 spy from the original republicans, there has to be more, let's exile them first" ... or something
(9:07:46 PM) spies8lilith: Jenny what?
(9:07:59 PM) spies8stephanie: jenny might be source of that rumor?
(9:08:09 PM) spies8lilith: She is?
(9:08:19 PM) spies8stephanie: just speculating
(9:08:20 PM) spies8lilith: I thought it was something people on the Dem side said, lol.
(9:08:59 PM) spies8stephanie: and jen was on dem side for a while
(9:09:13 PM) spies8stephanie: maybe rondak -- he voted no-exile didn't her?
(9:09:19 PM) spies8stephanie: he*
(9:09:32 PM) spies8lilith: No idea who came up with the idea :-P.
(9:10:07 PM) spies8stephanie: i still can't believe i could be next -- geez i'm up for exile
(9:10:15 PM) spies8stephanie: how could i be imprisoned?
(9:10:51 PM) spies8lilith: Because of how you were up for exile, people are going to begin assuming you are a citizen. If EVERYONE thinks that, you might be a threat to the spies.
(9:11:13 PM) spies8lilith: Gabe and Nita have been prisoned. The only thing they both had was they were largely thought of as citizen and both republicans :-P.
(9:11:25 PM) spies8lilith: I think they are doing the "imprison someone who people htink are citizens" strategy
(9:11:35 PM) spies8lilith: I did get that idea from someone else, but it makes sense.
(9:11:56 PM) spies8lilith: Along with hunting for the doctor, along with maybe the original republican side had less spies and they want that side wiped out first.
(9:32:52 PM) spies8stephanie: ok, i found that allan confirmed claude's role
(9:33:02 PM) spies8stephanie: poop
(9:56:28 PM) spies8lilith:
(9:56:34 PM) spies8lilith: I thought it said you sent me a message, lol
(10:04:37 PM) spies8stephanie: i thought mary was the vampire
(10:05:28 PM) spies8lilith: I'm the good vampire, she's the spy mean one ;-).
(10:05:29 PM) spies8lilith: :-P
(10:17:57 PM) spies8stephanie: damn does this mean jasmine is cit
(10:18:02 PM) spies8lilith: No
(10:18:08 PM) spies8lilith: I thought they might be bussing eachother.
(10:18:15 PM) spies8stephanie: oh i hope so
(10:18:23 PM) spies8lilith: The only reason Isaac would sound insincere in his accusations, is if he intended to BUS Jasmine.
(10:19:04 PM) spies8lilith: Did you think it was him, yes?
(10:19:18 PM) spies8stephanie: think who was what?
(10:19:27 PM) spies8lilith: Did you think Isaac was a spy?
(10:19:39 PM) spies8stephanie: totally on the fence
(10:19:48 PM) spies8stephanie: not much of a read of him at all
(10:20:28 PM) spies8stephanie: i thought of the jas/isaac pair that jas was more likely
(10:20:39 PM) spies8stephanie: i hardly talked to isaac at all
(10:21:02 PM) spies8stephanie: and, of course, i never believed in the themba/isaac spy pair
(10:42:27 PM) spies8stephanie: even brod?
(10:42:32 PM) spies8lilith: Yes
(10:48:15 PM) spies8stephanie: ahhhhh
(10:48:38 PM) spies8stephanie: not kiara, i don't trust her
(11:56:49 PM) spies8lilith: I have a feeling you might be imprisoned.
(11:57:22 PM) spies8lilith: Or if they think I am the doctor and that the citizens think that, I might be imprisoned >_<. But moreso you, lol.
(11:57:47 PM) spies8stephanie: tina told me that she was worried
(11:58:02 PM) spies8stephanie: but i think cinn and mary should be more worried
(11:59:21 PM) spies8stephanie: i still think that i was up for exile, how could i be imprisoned?
(11:59:42 PM) spies8stephanie: does that mean that dane, larry, and jenny are giving up on ever exiling me?
(11:59:56 PM) spies8stephanie: and then who would they vote for?
(12:00:48 AM) spies8stephanie: it would be interesting tho -- especially if they voted as a block again
(12:02:52 AM) spies8lilith: I am convincing Jenny it isn't you ;-).
(12:03:14 AM) spies8stephanie: lol, have you figured out why she thinks it IS me?
(12:03:20 AM) spies8lilith: That was exaggerated, Jenny just told me she agrees it isn't you, lol.
(12:03:38 AM) spies8lilith: I'd have to go back and read, but I'm fairly confident she never gave me an answer.
(12:03:42 AM) spies8stephanie: oh crap, jenny going along with the crowd again
(12:03:58 AM) spies8stephanie: and jenny never really giving any answers again
(12:06:33 AM) spies8stephanie: oh and who does she think it is now?
(12:06:41 AM) spies8stephanie: and does she have a reason?
(12:06:47 AM) spies8stephanie: inquiring mind want to know
(12:09:02 AM) spies8lilith: Her reasons for not suspecting you wer ebecause you were up in the nominees in the vote anonymosity.
(12:09:08 AM) spies8lilith: I am not talking to her currently, lol.
(12:09:28 AM) spies8stephanie: well that's a sucky reason
(12:09:50 AM) spies8stephanie: i still think the fog had to do with a bribe
(12:27:37 AM) spies8stephanie: it will interesting to see if dane and larry follow jenny

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8gertrude at 7/9/2010 6:55:58 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(6:56:04 PM) spies8stephanie: hi gertrude
(6:56:21 PM) spies8gertrude: Hey there, Stephanie!
(6:56:23 PM) spies8gertrude: What's up?
(6:56:27 PM) spies8gertrude: I didn't take a bribe.
(6:56:29 PM) spies8stephanie: that post you made last night
(6:56:35 PM) spies8stephanie: brightened my whole day
(6:56:38 PM) spies8gertrude: Aww.
(6:56:45 PM) spies8gertrude: Which one?
(6:56:55 PM) spies8stephanie: you in chat alone with yourself
(6:57:02 PM) spies8gertrude: Oh, ha.
(6:57:06 PM) spies8stephanie: i spit coffeeon the screen when i read it this morning
(6:57:25 PM) spies8gertrude: Haha, thank you, thank you.
(6:58:04 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm not sure jenny got it
(6:58:13 PM) spies8stephanie: she siad to me this morning...
(6:58:30 PM) spies8stephanie: (9:30:11 AM) spies8jenny: Yeah just finished reading it.
(9:30:35 AM) spies8jenny: Also I think Sammy was testing AIM accounts at the time, because I happened to see "jenny" log into the room at once point, and I was in bed by then.
(6:58:43 PM) spies8gertrude: Hahahahahaha.
(7:00:26 PM) spies8gertrude: Love her.
(7:00:57 PM) spies8stephanie: i didn't even try to explain just said something like that's odd in the middle of the night
(7:01:26 PM) spies8gertrude: Hahaha.
(7:01:32 PM) spies8gertrude: I had a lot of fun last night.

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8claude at 7/9/2010 9:29:24 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(9:29:28 PM) spies8stephanie: hi claude
(9:29:35 PM) spies8stephanie: are you relieved to still be here?
(9:34:47 PM) spies8claude: I am!
(9:34:59 PM) spies8claude: I was pretty sure I was dying, especially when it was down to 7 people.
(9:35:26 PM) spies8stephanie: i was more worried about tina, but have to agree i thought you were in grave danger
(9:35:41 PM) spies8claude: And Mary..she is largely viewed as town and has a vote right now
(9:35:49 PM) spies8claude: Lilith getting killed is very informative, I think.
(9:35:50 PM) spies8stephanie: but might have protection
(9:35:54 PM) spies8claude: Someone REALLY believed she was the Doc.
(9:36:06 PM) spies8stephanie: no one could be that naive, could they?
(9:36:13 PM) spies8claude: Apparently.
(9:37:39 PM) spies8stephanie: i've looked thru my chats with her
(9:37:46 PM) spies8stephanie: but not the main chat logs
(9:37:57 PM) spies8stephanie: and i'm stumped
(9:38:02 PM) spies8claude: Apparently it was some conversation in the main chat.
(9:38:10 PM) spies8claude: So I guess I'll have to suffer through finding it
(9:38:14 PM) spies8claude: And see whom was there at the time.
(9:38:19 PM) spies8stephanie: and there is soooo much stuff to look thru
(9:38:23 PM) spies8claude: I agree :-(
(9:38:48 PM) spies8claude: I'm starting to see what Lilith saw in you. She said you were very innocent.
(9:39:12 PM) spies8stephanie: i was there when somebody said that gabe had claimed to allan
(9:39:49 PM) spies8stephanie: i might be able to find that
(9:39:59 PM) spies8stephanie: cause i said wtf, that can't be true
(9:42:41 PM) spies8claude: That was the whole fake messenger bit or w/e?
(9:43:50 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah that came out just a little bit later
(9:44:08 PM) spies8stephanie: but for a while i was screaming no gabe did not claim to allan
(9:44:10 PM) spies8claude: Honestly, the idea that there is a scum version of that role is so weird.
(9:44:24 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't think so
(9:44:39 PM) spies8claude: It's such an obscure role though, to have it on both sides..I dunno
(9:44:56 PM) spies8claude: I guess I can see the dynamic to everyone trying to figure out which messages are good.
(9:46:56 PM) spies8stephanie: ok it's at midnight cdt on july 5th
(9:47:18 PM) spies8stephanie: (11:59:58 PM) spies8lilith: I just read something
(12:00:08 AM) spies8lilith: Chance says that Allan confirmed that Gabriel was the doctor??

(9:49:19 PM) spies8claude: And that's it?
(9:49:26 PM) spies8stephanie: no no
(9:49:38 PM) spies8claude: I was going to say..you've got to be kidding me
(9:51:36 PM) spies8stephanie: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=burg&thread=822&post=4713
(9:52:46 PM) spies8stephanie: or not
(9:52:53 PM) spies8claude: ?
(9:53:40 PM) spies8stephanie: scroll down it looks like 1:00 jenny's time
(9:55:14 PM) spies8stephanie: sure looks like it points to chance once again
(9:55:21 PM) spies8claude: Shocking!
(9:55:23 PM) spies8claude: ...
(9:55:24 PM) spies8claude: not really
(9:55:30 PM) spies8claude: I found something else interesting.
(9:55:40 PM) spies8claude: When Owen is talking about why he suspects Isaac, Kiara says:
(9:55:41 PM) spies8claude: [23:19] spies8kiara: but owen, wasnt part of the reason why you voted isaac was the possible scum slip with themba?
(9:55:57 PM) spies8claude: That is a big sneaky-defense of deadspyisaac
(9:56:44 PM) spies8stephanie: huh?
(9:56:54 PM) spies8stephanie: idk, i asked owen same thing
(9:57:08 PM) spies8claude: Sometimes it's all in how you word things
(9:57:09 PM) spies8stephanie: right after themba left
(9:57:22 PM) spies8claude: The way that is worded, it reads like she is trying to lessen Owen's suspicions
(9:57:26 PM) spies8claude: How did you word it?
(9:58:06 PM) spies8stephanie: idk, something like do you think this clears isaac now that themba has flipped cit
(9:58:18 PM) spies8claude: I'll have to look it up
(9:58:22 PM) spies8claude: Could just be nothing, I suppose.
(9:58:34 PM) spies8stephanie: i was a little pissed off with him for voting themba instead of mags
(9:58:40 PM) spies8claude: haha
(9:59:08 PM) spies8stephanie: [01:06] spies8lilith: Gabe was not the doctor. Allan is doing something fishy.
[01:06] spies8lilith: What?
[01:06] spies8chance: well, one of allan or lilith is a liar, then.

(9:59:42 PM) spies8claude: And for the last 2 days, Chance has pushed on lilith whenever possible.
(9:59:54 PM) spies8claude: Man I hope he gets lynched.
(10:00:00 PM) spies8stephanie: hell chance has pushed on e1 possible
(10:00:02 PM) spies8stephanie: and then some
(10:00:08 PM) spies8claude: lol
(10:03:20 PM) spies8claude: Kiara is tied to everyone I think is scum.
(10:03:28 PM) spies8claude: fascinating
(10:03:59 PM) spies8claude: Like this:
(10:04:00 PM) spies8claude: [23:36] spies8kiara: wasnt it steph who suspect rondak early on because he didnt know what bussing ment? it was a real dumb reason imo. and lilith was having a crazy hard time keeping people straight, like she couldnt remember who was on what team. that seems more like acting dumb to me, which i find worrisome
(10:04:18 PM) spies8claude: That reads as a subtle defense of Rondak to me, and is such a bad reason for her to be 'suspicious' of you and Lilith
(10:04:46 PM) spies8stephanie: kiara's been on my watch list since i first saw her as new kiara
(10:04:58 PM) spies8claude: Ahhh
(10:05:01 PM) spies8claude: I forgot that she replaced
(10:05:02 PM) spies8stephanie: coming into the game with like a couple of hours to exile
(10:05:20 PM) spies8stephanie: and told her i was voting savannah
(10:05:32 PM) spies8stephanie: i think that was the right exile
(10:05:43 PM) spies8stephanie: and told her themba was cit
(10:06:12 PM) spies8stephanie: and spelled out for her in excruciating detail why i thought themba was cit
(10:06:19 PM) spies8stephanie: and then she voted themba
(10:06:24 PM) spies8claude: lol
(10:06:30 PM) spies8claude: Maybe she just didn't agree with you?
(10:07:09 PM) spies8stephanie: yep, which is why she just went on the watch list and not on the spy list

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8cory at 7/9/2010 9:30:55 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(9:31:05 PM) spies8stephanie: hi cory
(9:31:13 PM) spies8cory: Hi
(9:31:31 PM) spies8stephanie: so did you make anything of lilith being chosen?
(9:31:58 PM) spies8stephanie: cause i can't believe that the doc claimed to her
(9:32:06 PM) spies8cory: She hinted at having a role and possibly being the doctor.
(9:32:13 PM) spies8cory: Whether or not it's true, the spies must have thought it was.
(9:33:05 PM) spies8stephanie: or they thought she was a safe exile -- not protected
(9:33:24 PM) spies8stephanie: and maybe she had a role
(9:33:29 PM) spies8cory: Possible
(9:33:34 PM) spies8stephanie: but i don't think she could be doc either
(9:33:35 PM) spies8cory: There were a few people going after Lilith
(9:33:38 PM) spies8cory: Most noteably, Broderick
(9:33:48 PM) spies8stephanie: course, i thought themba was, so what do i know?
(9:34:03 PM) spies8stephanie: brod goes after everyone
(9:34:25 PM) spies8stephanie: i think lil got mad about it and went after him
(9:35:48 PM) spies8cory: Either way, it seems odd that Broderick, as a Spy, would try to go after Lilith
(9:35:54 PM) spies8cory: If he knew they would be imprisoning her.
(9:36:38 PM) spies8stephanie: maybe testing the waters?
(9:37:13 PM) spies8stephanie: and seeing if people would vote her, before deciding on an imprisonment
(9:38:01 PM) spies8cory: Maybe
(10:01:45 PM) spies8cory: So
(10:01:55 PM) spies8cory: Stephanie!
(10:02:05 PM) spies8stephanie: yes?
(10:02:13 PM) spies8cory: Who are you suspecting now?
(10:02:20 PM) spies8stephanie: larry still
(10:02:30 PM) spies8stephanie: chance has def moved way up
(10:02:39 PM) spies8cory: Based on?
(10:02:53 PM) spies8stephanie: based on claude being confirmed by allan
(10:03:04 PM) spies8stephanie: at least his role is confirmed
(10:03:47 PM) spies8stephanie: plus i got to see him in chat some more last night
(10:03:57 PM) spies8stephanie: i hadn't really seen much of him yet
(10:05:34 PM) spies8cory: True
(10:05:45 PM) spies8cory: Someone said that his confusion over the doctor nonsenes might be a point in his favor
(10:05:47 PM) spies8cory: Several people, in fact
(10:05:49 PM) spies8cory: I'm not sure
(10:05:52 PM) spies8cory: Do you know what I'm referring to?
(10:06:45 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah, i don't see how that's a point in his favor tho
(10:07:30 PM) spies8cory: I think the idea is that a Spy might be less likely to use something they know is false to try to get Jenny out
(10:07:38 PM) spies8cory: Who else do you suspect?
(10:09:43 PM) spies8stephanie: jasmine, kiara, rondak are my other 3 picks, but could change at any moment
(10:10:04 PM) spies8stephanie: how about you?
(10:10:58 PM) spies8cory: Rondak, not sure about Chance, Lawrence
(10:11:01 PM) spies8cory: Why Jasmine?
(10:11:07 PM) spies8cory: Seems like an odd pick, considering Isaac and she had a fight
(10:11:10 PM) spies8cory: Do you think it was faked?
(10:19:49 PM) spies8cory: Hmm?
(10:20:35 PM) spies8stephanie: sry
(10:20:45 PM) spies8stephanie: jas just rubs me the wrong way
(10:20:56 PM) spies8stephanie: so she went on my list
(10:21:10 PM) spies8stephanie: as i said, possible to change at any moment

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8allan at 7/10/2010 5:30:14 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(5:30:24 PM) spies8stephanie: hi allan
(5:31:09 PM) spies8allan: oh hey steph
(5:31:18 PM) spies8stephanie: how are you doing?
(5:31:50 PM) spies8allan: i'm hungry
(5:31:52 PM) spies8allan: lol
(5:31:53 PM) spies8allan: how r u?
(5:31:57 PM) spies8stephanie: ok
(5:32:20 PM) spies8stephanie: may i ask why you picked hambone for the vote limit?
(5:33:01 PM) spies8allan: if u want the full thing i kindly will ask u to read the chat, but i can give cliffnotes
(5:33:13 PM) spies8stephanie: cliffnotes are good
(5:34:14 PM) spies8allan: i don't think ham is a spy, but i don't think he agrees with me
(5:34:52 PM) spies8stephanie: well, he's been pretty focused on jenny,jenny,jenny
(5:35:04 PM) spies8allan: and before that me
(5:35:10 PM) spies8stephanie: right
(5:36:27 PM) spies8stephanie: so are you also thinking of voting getrude, dane, and who was the third?
(5:36:36 PM) spies8allan: it was cory
(5:36:49 PM) spies8allan: originally i thought gert, now dane is higher up
(5:36:57 PM) spies8allan: for voting for u
(5:37:07 PM) spies8allan: that mess is fishy
(5:37:18 PM) spies8stephanie: dane was my original suspicion
(5:37:51 PM) spies8stephanie: but after alexei voted for him, and then alexei flipped spy, i backed off
(5:38:18 PM) spies8allan: alexei was upset at the bus maybe?
(5:38:19 PM) spies8allan: idk
(5:40:15 PM) spies8stephanie: i originally thought alex was over-eager cit bouncing from suspicion to suspicion -- zeke to dane
(5:40:51 PM) spies8stephanie: after he flipped spy, i thought he was bouncing from cit-wagon to cit-wagon
(5:41:01 PM) spies8allan: its possible
(5:41:13 PM) spies8allan: i'm also think about lawrence
(5:41:24 PM) spies8stephanie: but who knows, dane was not really in danger, so he could have been trying to make fellow spy look cit
(5:41:46 PM) spies8stephanie: lawrence has looked scummy to me from the minute i met him
(5:42:08 PM) spies8stephanie: but i was thinking of voting chance this time
(5:42:51 PM) spies8allan: chance is also starting to sound like a good option
(5:43:12 PM) spies8stephanie: i'd actually like to have both of them up for nomination
(5:43:33 PM) spies8allan: Chance/Lawrence/Rondak
(5:43:42 PM) spies8allan: would be ideal to me
(5:43:44 PM) spies8stephanie: that sounds great
(5:44:37 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't know what to think about jenny
(5:44:50 PM) spies8stephanie: i've been back and forth on her so many times, my head spins
(5:44:54 PM) spies8allan: *sigh* i don't quite know as much anymore
(5:45:19 PM) spies8stephanie: she's done some scummy things, but she's also done some cit things
(5:45:26 PM) spies8stephanie: like not imprisoning you
(5:45:28 PM) spies8allan: i still think she woulda found a way to let me get killed early on
(5:45:45 PM) spies8allan: but i don't trust her like i did before

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8hambone at 7/10/2010 1:20:11 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(1:20:11 PM) spies8hambone: hi
(1:21:13 PM) spies8stephanie: hi long chin
(1:22:15 PM) spies8hambone: hello wideface
(1:23:19 PM) spies8stephanie: so i am thinking of voting chance this round
(1:23:29 PM) spies8stephanie: giving up on larry for the time being
(1:23:37 PM) spies8stephanie: what do you think?
(1:23:43 PM) spies8hambone: go for it
(1:23:54 PM) spies8hambone: idc what anyone does this week!
(1:23:57 PM) spies8hambone: including myself
(1:24:23 PM) spies8stephanie: huh?
(1:25:05 PM) spies8hambone: allan used his role on me
(1:25:12 PM) spies8hambone: i can only vote for dane or gert
(1:25:22 PM) spies8stephanie: oh dang i forgot about that
(1:25:35 PM) spies8stephanie: go for dane
(1:34:50 PM) spies8stephanie: is mary going somewhere with this?
(1:36:10 PM) spies8hambone: no idea
(1:36:15 PM) spies8hambone: this bitch always questions me

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8mary at 7/10/2010 12:57:50 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(12:57:50 PM) spies8mary: Hi.
(12:57:57 PM) spies8stephanie: hi mary
(12:58:03 PM) spies8stephanie: how are you doing?
(12:58:08 PM) spies8mary: I saw your message late last night.
(12:58:09 PM) spies8mary: Ok.
(12:58:33 PM) spies8mary: Who do you want to see exiled next?
(12:58:42 PM) spies8mary: I don't get to pick.
(12:58:50 PM) spies8stephanie: i am thinking chance
(12:59:03 PM) spies8stephanie: of course, i'd also like to see lawrence gone
(12:59:18 PM) spies8stephanie: but i can't seem to get a momentum rolling for him
(12:59:51 PM) spies8mary: The people with the strongest connections to Isaac should go, in order.
(1:00:01 PM) spies8mary: That will obviously change if we get another spy.
(1:00:12 PM) spies8mary: Or if we see more connections to Alexei.
(1:00:22 PM) spies8stephanie: and who do you think has the strongest connection to isaac?
(1:00:27 PM) spies8mary: Chance.
(1:00:46 PM) spies8mary: In the opposite direction, Jasmine and Claude.
(1:01:09 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah i still don't know what to think about jasmine
(1:01:14 PM) spies8mary: Why are you thinking Chance?
(1:01:49 PM) spies8stephanie: i've finally gotten to talk to the c's some
(1:02:15 PM) spies8mary: What do you think of them now?
(1:02:15 PM) spies8stephanie: and think chance is the scum among them
(1:02:18 PM) spies8mary: Ok.
(1:02:27 PM) spies8stephanie: chance was defending larry to me
(1:02:34 PM) spies8mary: Oh?
(1:02:40 PM) spies8mary: How so?
(1:02:42 PM) spies8stephanie: which certainly makes him scummy in my eyes
(1:03:55 PM) spies8stephanie: (10:40:18 PM) spies8chance: so he offered up suspicions of the people he'd been with the longest? doesn't sound overly bad to me.
(1:05:06 PM) spies8stephanie: looking back on it, he may have just been arguing with me
(1:05:08 PM) spies8mary: Did you suspect Claude for a while?
(1:05:15 PM) spies8stephanie: yes!
(1:05:19 PM) spies8mary: What changed?
(1:05:27 PM) spies8stephanie: when i thought he had refused to target allan
(1:05:55 PM) spies8stephanie: when he did target allan, it confirmed his role
(1:06:08 PM) spies8mary: I reread your exile one group chats last night.
(1:06:18 PM) spies8stephanie: zzzzzzzzz
(1:06:22 PM) spies8mary: Not at all.
(1:06:26 PM) spies8mary: They were fascinating.
(1:06:30 PM) spies8stephanie: rly?
(1:06:33 PM) spies8mary: Who do you think bussed?
(1:06:45 PM) spies8mary: I already went over them looking specifically for Jenny and Tina.
(1:06:47 PM) spies8stephanie: right now, i'd guess rondak
(1:06:55 PM) spies8mary: But this time I looked for possible bussing of Alexei.
(1:06:59 PM) spies8stephanie: but a guess
(1:07:14 PM) spies8stephanie: my original guess was rondak and/or hambone
(1:07:34 PM) spies8stephanie: then when owen started arguing with me about it, i started suspecting him
(1:07:36 PM) spies8mary: Why them?
(1:07:46 PM) spies8stephanie: gut mostly
(1:07:50 PM) spies8mary: Ok.
(1:07:57 PM) spies8mary: Ok so here's how it went down.
(1:08:02 PM) spies8stephanie: hambone seemed to be over-friendly to me
(1:08:04 PM) spies8mary: Tell me if I get anything wrong.
(1:08:23 PM) spies8mary: Nita comes up with a case with Tina and posts it, 4pm.
(1:08:44 PM) spies8mary: Dane's first reaction is to deflect.
(1:08:48 PM) spies8mary: [16:23] spies8dane: who is your biggest suspect after that? (DEFLECTS)
(1:09:23 PM) spies8mary: Then Dane attacks Hambone for misrepresenting Dane to Alexei.
(1:09:37 PM) spies8mary: [16:33] spies8dane: was it you or her that described it as such to alexei?
(starts a big fight with hambone)
(1:09:43 PM) spies8mary: They fight for quite some time.
(1:10:16 PM) spies8mary: Tina calls out Alexei for redirecting a question to Gabriel.
(1:10:18 PM) spies8mary: [17:01] spies8tina: He asked you what you thought on Zek immediately after I asked him.
[17:02] spies8dane: which if i remember was because a lot of people were being quiet and only a few were talking
[17:02] spies8dane: but i was buzzed, so i may be remembering incorrectly
(DEFENDS ALEXEI for switching question to Gabe)
(1:10:34 PM) spies8mary: Dane explains it away as a good thing.
(1:10:56 PM) spies8mary: Then again
(1:10:59 PM) spies8mary: [17:03] spies8dane: sounds to me like alexei basically reported on what the rumors going around were
[17:03] spies8dane: either he was trying to get sheep to follow him
[17:03] spies8dane: or he was a sheep who followed what he was told by others
(OPENING OPTIONS FOR ALEXEI)
(1:11:33 PM) spies8mary: Then changes the topic to Hambone and leaves chat:
(1:11:46 PM) spies8mary: [17:04] spies8dane: did you tell alexei that I attacked themba, (Hambone)?

(1:12:19 PM) spies8mary: Three hours later, Alexei sticks Dane into his supects awkwardly.
(1:12:44 PM) spies8mary: [20:38] spies8alexei: has joined the chat
[20:44] spies8alexei: Zed then Dane
[20:48] spies8jenny: Sounds to me like you're saying Zed is your first suspect, followed by Dane.
[20:49] spies8alexei: Dane right now
[20:49] spies8alexei: It was Zed, but changed to Dane
(1:12:53 PM) spies8mary: says he's voting Dane.
(1:13:10 PM) spies8mary: Alexei posts a conversation with you.
(1:13:21 PM) spies8mary: Dane logs back in exactly then
(1:13:29 PM) spies8mary: And reports Alexei to Sam for pasting that.
(1:13:51 PM) spies8mary: [20:59] spies8dane: alright, well lets get this party started
[20:59] spies8dane: stephanie
[20:59] spies8dane: you suspect me because I payed attention to the other team?
(REDIRECTS TO STEPHANIE)
(1:13:57 PM) spies8mary: Ok so anyhow
(1:14:07 PM) spies8mary: This entire time, Dane's vote has been on you, right?
(1:14:52 PM) spies8stephanie: his first vote was for alex
(1:14:56 PM) spies8stephanie: and then me
(1:15:09 PM) spies8mary: Themba, then you, then Alex as far as I can tell.
(1:15:24 PM) spies8mary: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=784
(1:15:37 PM) spies8stephanie: oh, yeah, he never actually voted themba tho
(1:15:45 PM) spies8mary: But he voted you.
(1:15:53 PM) spies8mary: This entire conversation he was voting you.
(1:16:03 PM) spies8mary: Now he starts arguing with you.
(1:16:25 PM) spies8mary: spies8dane: and most of the reasons he is suspicious is BECAUSE he is pushing on me
[21:26] spies8dane: on false grounds
(1:16:41 PM) spies8mary: Why does he switch his vote from you to Alexei right then?
(1:16:50 PM) spies8mary: You are the one "lying" to Alexei.
(1:17:02 PM) spies8mary: Dane is voting you and suspicious of you.
(1:17:34 PM) spies8mary: The Alexei wagon is at 4.
(1:17:48 PM) spies8mary: Nita, Tina, Owen, Gabe, in order.
(1:18:38 PM) spies8mary: That same period of time, Hambone is picking fights.
(1:18:44 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't think dane actually got suspicious of me until i voted him
(1:19:03 PM) spies8mary: You voted him before this whole Alexei thing happened, right?
(1:19:35 PM) spies8stephanie: the alex suspicions started first
(1:20:09 PM) spies8mary: Yes.
(1:20:09 PM) spies8stephanie: i later had dane suspicions based on his paying more attention to the other team
(1:20:12 PM) spies8mary: Yes.
(1:20:17 PM) spies8mary: Ok so here's how it went.
(1:20:25 PM) spies8mary: Case posted, 4pm
(1:20:33 PM) spies8stephanie: and i talked to a lot of people about my dane suspicions
(1:20:36 PM) spies8mary: Wagon is 4, 5pm.
(1:20:36 PM) spies8stephanie: including alex
(1:20:45 PM) spies8mary: Dane's vote is on you
(1:21:15 PM) spies8mary: Nope, it's on Themba.
(1:21:19 PM) spies8mary: One moment, phone.
(1:22:54 PM) spies8stephanie: i first discussed dane with alex on 6/18 at 10:30pm
(1:25:44 PM) spies8mary: Hambone agreed to the Alexei case the moment he read it, it seems.
(1:26:25 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't actually remember seeing that
(1:26:35 PM) spies8stephanie: but do remember talking with gabe about bussers
(1:26:48 PM) spies8mary: [16:28] spies8hambone: who came up with the alexei thing anyway
(1:26:59 PM) spies8stephanie: and he dismissed hambone -- said that hambone had actually helped make the alex case
(1:27:04 PM) spies8mary: [16:29] spies8hambone: cuz i was just told it about 20 min ago
[16:29] spies8jenny: I think Nita and Tina did.
[16:29] spies8hambone: and its pretty good
(1:53:42 PM) spies8mary: Who said Hambone helped make the Alexei case? Gabriel?
(1:58:22 PM) spies8stephanie: yes
(1:58:53 PM) spies8mary: I don't see it at all.
(1:59:07 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm looking -- it was in a private chat
(1:59:13 PM) spies8mary: It looks like he just jumped onboard right away.
(2:03:04 PM) spies8stephanie: ok i'm wrong
(2:03:42 PM) spies8stephanie: it was owen who worked on the cases
(2:03:52 PM) spies8stephanie: (12:32:43 AM) spies8gabriel: chances are at least one spy was on him...
(12:32:55 AM) spies8gabriel: owen i think actually worked on the case with the anagrams
(12:33:10 AM) spies8gabriel: sooooo that leaves rondak and hambone

(2:03:54 PM) spies8mary: Yes.
(2:03:58 PM) spies8mary: That's what I thought.
(2:04:15 PM) spies8stephanie: sorry, that's why i need to keep rereading
(2:04:19 PM) spies8mary: So Hambone jumped onboard within 20 minutes of hearing about it.
(2:04:21 PM) spies8stephanie: my memory is iffy
(2:04:29 PM) spies8mary: Did you find his jump to be sincere?
(2:04:40 PM) spies8stephanie: not at the time
(2:05:38 PM) spies8stephanie: (12:36:43 AM) spies8stephanie: i thought he was going to vote dane
(12:36:50 AM) spies8stephanie: for quite a while
(12:37:36 AM) spies8gabriel: sod i
(2:06:12 PM) spies8mary: What's your take on him right now?
(2:06:44 PM) spies8stephanie: neutral
(2:07:15 PM) spies8mary: I don't like that he's locked on Jenny without reevaluating the case.
(2:07:32 PM) spies8stephanie: i think he has some good points on jenny, but he seems to ignore a bunch of things on jenny as well
(2:07:46 PM) spies8mary: What do you think of Dane?
(2:07:53 PM) spies8stephanie: yuck
(2:08:15 PM) spies8stephanie: my gut still says spy, but
(2:08:34 PM) spies8stephanie: after alexei flipped spy, i don't really think dane could be
(2:08:46 PM) spies8stephanie: or he certainly dropped in my suspicion list
(2:08:48 PM) spies8mary: Because of the way they went at it?
(2:09:15 PM) spies8stephanie: cause i think alex was looking for a cit wagon to jump on
(2:09:29 PM) spies8stephanie: first he looked at zeke, and then he jumped over to dane
(2:10:08 PM) spies8mary: Who is left from your original team?
(2:10:28 PM) spies8stephanie: jenny, owen, tina, zeke, dane, rondak
(2:10:37 PM) spies8stephanie: new kiara, sort of
(2:10:46 PM) spies8mary: Jenny, Tina, you, Dane, Hambone, Owen, Kiara, Zed
(2:10:56 PM) spies8stephanie: oh and ham
(2:12:37 PM) spies8stephanie: there was quite a bit of speculation that the spies would imprison all of the original dems
(2:12:49 PM) spies8mary: Why?
(2:12:56 PM) spies8stephanie: but they got lilith instead
(2:13:39 PM) spies8stephanie: followed the speculation that nita was saved, and therefore the doc was an original oops republican i meant
(2:13:52 PM) spies8mary: Ok.
(2:15:22 PM) spies8stephanie: i've got some stuff to do, but i'll be back a little later
(2:15:27 PM) spies8mary: Ok.

[Stephanie]

The last conversation here was after the challenge was announced...I really don't want Jenny to win her vote back, but I am guessing that she probably will.

Conversation with spies8jenny at 7/7/2010 11:19:36 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(11:19:36 PM) spies8jenny: Hi Stephi-kins!
(11:19:46 PM) spies8stephanie: hi?
(11:20:17 PM) spies8jenny: How are you doing lately?
(11:21:17 PM) spies8stephanie: survived exile, so i guess ok
(11:21:29 PM) spies8jenny: Certainly went well tonight.
Conversation with spies8jenny at 7/9/2010 9:27:49 AM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(9:27:49 AM) spies8jenny: Seems to be rather quiet this morning.
(9:29:04 AM) spies8stephanie: hey jenny, yep
(9:29:21 AM) spies8stephanie: did you read gertrude's chat by herself last night?
(9:29:21 AM) spies8jenny: Not a lot so far.
(9:29:38 AM) spies8stephanie: funniest thing i've seen in a while
(9:30:11 AM) spies8jenny: Yeah just finished reading it.
(9:30:35 AM) spies8jenny: Also I think Sammy was testing AIM accounts at the time, because I happened to see "jenny" log into the room at once point, and I was in bed by then.
(9:31:30 AM) spies8stephanie: that's odd
(10:21:02 AM) spies8stephanie: i'm off to kill some bugs -- see you later
(10:21:02 AM) spies8jenny <AUTO-REPLY>: At work.

Conversation with spies8jenny at 7/10/2010 1:23:46 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(1:23:46 PM) spies8jenny: Hi Stephi-kins!

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8zedekiah at 7/11/2010 7:15:57 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(7:16:02 PM) spies8stephanie: hi zeke
(7:16:10 PM) spies8zedekiah: Hey there Steph!
(7:16:26 PM) spies8zedekiah: gettin a chat in for this contest?
(7:16:32 PM) spies8stephanie: no
(7:17:05 PM) spies8stephanie: there are a million people i haven't talked to; i'm wondering about who's trying to influence your vote
(7:18:21 PM) spies8zedekiah: I don't really know if anyone's tryin' t' influence me, I just talked to jenny and cory a bit, they didn't really talk much 'bout their suspects
(7:18:54 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah, well, jenny and cory, i think are competing to win their vote back
(7:19:06 PM) spies8stephanie: so who are you thinking about voting?
(7:19:33 PM) spies8stephanie: i keep refusing to talk to jenny privately btw
(7:19:43 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't want her to win
(7:20:55 PM) spies8stephanie: it's odd; she had plenty of opportunities to talk to me before and never did, and now she wants to?
(7:21:00 PM) spies8zedekiah: yeah jen is still a top suspect for me, I'm trying t' get some read on mag and mary too
(7:21:23 PM) spies8stephanie: i think mary is cit for now
(7:21:34 PM) spies8zedekiah: any reason?
(7:21:41 PM) spies8stephanie: mostly gut
(7:22:04 PM) spies8stephanie: jen has done some very suspicious things, but she's done some cit things to
(7:22:17 PM) spies8stephanie: if jen is spy, i think allan also is spy
(7:22:56 PM) spies8zedekiah: I could see that
(7:23:07 PM) spies8stephanie: and i haven't seen enough of mags to know anything except that i think she does too many drugs
(7:24:01 PM) spies8stephanie: chance and lawrence are still my top spy picks
(7:25:13 PM) spies8zedekiah: he seemed t' say it was out o the blue, what are yer thought on him?
(7:25:31 PM) spies8stephanie: well i was very suspicious of claude
(7:25:44 PM) spies8stephanie: i thought his whole role was bogus
(7:26:03 PM) spies8stephanie: and that was why he originally refused to target allan
(7:26:27 PM) spies8stephanie: but then he did, and so at least claude's role is confirmed
(7:26:37 PM) spies8zedekiah: it's a vote restriciton or somethin right? who'd allan use it on?
(7:27:00 PM) spies8stephanie: and after talking to the both of them, i def think claude is the cit of the duo
(7:27:13 PM) spies8stephanie: allan used it on hambone
(7:27:27 PM) spies8stephanie: restricting him to dane, gert, and somebody
(7:27:55 PM) spies8stephanie: and i actually talked to allan this round and asked him about it
(7:28:41 PM) spies8zedekiah: I get a cit read on ham, it would be beyond stupid for this t' be a scum fake role.
(7:29:44 PM) spies8stephanie: this afternoon when i first got to the chat, chance was trying to explain his vote for magalie
(7:29:54 PM) spies8stephanie: and he didn't make any sense at all
(7:30:04 PM) spies8stephanie: he said he had "no read" on her
(7:30:40 PM) spies8stephanie: i can't understand why you'd vote for someone that you had no-read on
(7:32:26 PM) spies8stephanie: and this is the second time he's voted for her
(7:33:01 PM) spies8zedekiah: well maybe he jus ment he ain't talked t' her, I haven't either, but I think the whole waggon and dropping o' her stinks of a scum bus
(7:33:52 PM) spies8stephanie: and plus the spies giving her the vote back would fit into that
(7:34:05 PM) spies8stephanie: i think?
(7:35:34 PM) spies8zedekiah: it's so scummy it's confusin'
(7:35:37 PM) spies8stephanie: and i think if you are going to vote a lurker, you should at least vote one that you think suspicious
(7:36:35 PM) spies8stephanie: i think his now saying that he has no-read on her is trying to avoid fingerpointing later when she turns up cit
(7:36:51 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm voting her, but heck don't blame me if she's cit

[Stephanie]

(8:34:41 PM) spies8stephanie: hey owen
(8:34:47 PM) spies8stephanie: haven't seen much of you lately
(8:35:08 PM) spies8owen: That's because I've been busy refusing to share my thoughts.
(8:35:10 PM) spies8stephanie: have you talked to mags much?
(8:35:12 PM) spies8owen: Kidding.
(8:35:16 PM) spies8owen: That's what Broderick would say though.
(8:35:21 PM) spies8owen: I don't like him at all.
(8:35:33 PM) spies8owen: "Senate isn't sharing their thoughts." Anyone that asks me shit will get an answer.
(8:35:43 PM) spies8owen: I have NEVER talked to Mags 1 on 1.
(8:35:43 PM) spies8stephanie: i've posted at least once a plea for the spies to imprison him and dane
(8:36:33 PM) spies8stephanie: so the spies put her on the senate to just confuse things?
(8:36:45 PM) spies8stephanie: or do you think she
(8:36:48 PM) spies8stephanie: s a spy
(8:37:15 PM) spies8stephanie: i just think she does too many drugs
(8:37:21 PM) spies8owen: Can't really tell. It's a lot of WIFOM.
(8:37:30 PM) spies8stephanie: yep
(8:40:00 PM) spies8stephanie: so what is the senate thinking?
(8:40:14 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm hoping its larry or chance
(8:40:38 PM) spies8owen: Larry or Rondak for me.
(8:41:14 PM) spies8stephanie: larry, as i suspect you realize, would get my vote
(8:41:27 PM) spies8stephanie: between those 2
(8:42:00 PM) spies8stephanie: my spy list is currently larry and chance
(8:42:20 PM) spies8owen: Or perhaps Magalie. She's the type that if you don't lynch her early, more and more people are not gonna be willing to lynch her later for fear of a misexile.
(8:42:23 PM) spies8stephanie: then some combination of rondak, jasmine, kiara, and mags
(8:42:24 PM) spies8owen: But she could easily be a spy.
(8:43:24 PM) spies8stephanie: i'd really like to see either chance or larry gone tho
(8:43:30 PM) spies8stephanie: mags could be a spy
(8:43:42 PM) spies8stephanie: but i'm pretty sure that both larry and chance are
(8:44:41 PM) spies8owen: Has anyone ever presented anything to you on Chance?
(8:44:44 PM) spies8owen: Because they haven't to me.
(8:44:55 PM) spies8owen: I feel like he's being made out to be an easy target.
(8:45:01 PM) spies8stephanie: i've talked to claude about him
(8:45:10 PM) spies8owen: Claude didn't even give me examples.
(8:45:13 PM) spies8owen: It really bothers me.
(8:45:29 PM) spies8owen: He says I just don't suspect him because I wasn't around him early when he was doing scummy things.
(8:45:31 PM) spies8owen: It's a cop out.
(8:45:38 PM) spies8stephanie: and this afternoon in chat chance said he was voting mags even tho he has "no read" on her
(8:45:56 PM) spies8stephanie: it confirmed my suspicions on him
(8:47:06 PM) spies8stephanie: he was trying to defend it by saying that lurkers should be lynched, but we have enough lurkers that you should be able to find one that you have better than "no read" on
(8:47:28 PM) spies8stephanie: it was like he was saying he was voting mags, but don't blame him when she turns up cit
(8:47:37 PM) spies8stephanie: looked very fishy to me
(8:47:39 PM) spies8owen: That's how he explained it?
(8:47:49 PM) spies8owen: Just "lurkers should be lynched?"
(8:48:08 PM) spies8stephanie: no, he never really explained it
(8:48:17 PM) spies8owen: I agree that Magalie is a great option for a lurker lynch because it's almost impossible to read her.
(8:48:25 PM) spies8owen: But without reasonings, that's a bit fishy.
(8:48:30 PM) spies8stephanie: you can read the chat logs, but i couldn't ever get him to explain it