Episode 4 conversations

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8claude at 7/2/2010 7:04:08 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(7:04:22 PM) spies8stephanie: hi claude!
(7:04:42 PM) spies8claude: Ah, hello Stephanie.
(7:04:52 PM) spies8stephanie: nice to finally talk to you
(7:05:03 PM) spies8claude: 'Tis my pleasure.
(7:05:27 PM) spies8stephanie: so do you mind explaining your role to me?
(7:05:38 PM) spies8claude: Sure
(7:05:40 PM) spies8claude: I have 3 abilities
(7:05:49 PM) spies8claude: Nullify - I can prevent a person from voting for a day.
(7:05:58 PM) spies8claude: Veto - I can prevent a person from voting 2 people of my choice for a day.
(7:06:14 PM) spies8claude: Direct - I can limit a person to only being able to vote 3 people of my choice for a day.
(7:06:23 PM) spies8claude: I used Nullify and Veto so far.
(7:06:58 PM) spies8stephanie: so first exile you nullified chance?
(7:07:13 PM) spies8claude: Yeah
(7:07:33 PM) spies8stephanie: and 2nd exile?
(7:07:50 PM) spies8stephanie: and yesterday?
(7:08:06 PM) spies8claude: Chance again
(7:08:16 PM) spies8claude: I just Vetoed him that time, preventing him from voting myself or Jasmine
(7:08:30 PM) spies8claude: I spaced the fact that Jasmine had been moved to the other team by that time.
(7:08:44 PM) spies8stephanie: lol
(7:09:00 PM) spies8stephanie: and 3rd exile?
(7:09:11 PM) spies8claude: I haven't submitted anything yet
(7:09:15 PM) spies8claude: I can only use the Direct action this time
(7:09:30 PM) spies8claude: Waiting for Sam to tell me how the current game-state(only Owen being able to Vote) affects things.
(7:09:42 PM) spies8stephanie: wait we've had 3 exiles so far right?
(7:09:48 PM) spies8claude: Yeah.
(7:09:56 PM) spies8claude: I submit my ability after an exile, but before the next imprisonment
(7:10:14 PM) spies8stephanie: oh so i am one off
(7:10:22 PM) spies8stephanie: no wonder i am so confused
(7:10:55 PM) spies8stephanie: so first exile of camilla you didn't do anything?
(7:11:03 PM) spies8claude: I wasn't allowed to
(7:11:07 PM) spies8stephanie: ok
(7:11:09 PM) spies8claude: I actually tried to prevent Camilal from voting
(7:11:14 PM) spies8stephanie: i was confused
(7:12:21 PM) spies8stephanie: so you can use your power every episode?
(7:12:26 PM) spies8claude: Indeed
(7:12:35 PM) spies8claude: But I have to use each power once before I can use any of them again
(7:12:39 PM) spies8claude: No particular order though.
(7:13:23 PM) spies8stephanie: and you've picked chance cause you think he is a spy?
(7:13:29 PM) spies8claude: Yeah
(7:13:58 PM) spies8stephanie: and are pretty sure about that?
(7:14:40 PM) spies8claude: As sure as I can be.
(7:14:43 PM) spies8claude: I also think Isaac is scum though.
(7:14:51 PM) spies8claude: Especially after his antics yesterday.
(7:16:07 PM) spies8stephanie: i hardly saw anything of isaac
(7:16:12 PM) spies8stephanie: what antics?
(7:16:21 PM) spies8claude: I'll find the post.
(7:17:55 PM) spies8claude: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=burg&thread=807&page=1#4009
(7:19:41 PM) spies8stephanie: and why do you think that is antics?
(7:19:53 PM) spies8claude: men
(7:19:54 PM) spies8claude: er
(7:19:55 PM) spies8claude: meh
(7:19:57 PM) spies8claude: antics is just a word
(7:20:17 PM) spies8stephanie: i agreed with some his points on jasmine
(7:20:18 PM) spies8claude: But when you start out a post attacking one person(whom happens to be the person currently under the most suspicion)
(7:20:27 PM) spies8claude: And end up voting someone else, whom the first person is voting for
(7:20:32 PM) spies8claude: It shows tremendous insincerity.
(7:21:29 PM) spies8claude: It reads largely like he wanted to keep suspicion on Themba, without actually having to get his hands dirty by voting her, so he presented a 'case' on someone else.
(7:21:59 PM) spies8stephanie: i could see that i guess, just didn't think it when i read it
(7:23:41 PM) spies8stephanie: so chance and isaac, what do you think about the former reps nita, jenny, hambone, rondak?
(7:23:54 PM) spies8claude: I like Nita
(7:23:57 PM) spies8stephanie: and allan i guess
(7:24:08 PM) spies8stephanie: he''s next to invisible
(7:24:11 PM) spies8stephanie: forgot him
(7:24:51 PM) spies8claude: I'm starting to think that Jenny is using her 'helpfulness' as a smoke screen to not ever actually participate in the game.
(7:25:19 PM) spies8claude: I barely spoke w/ Hambone or Rondak. I talked with Allan a little. Some stuff he said bugged me, and some didn't, so I'm on the fence there.
(7:26:12 PM) spies8stephanie: a lot of the dems were wishing you all had nominated jenny
(7:26:23 PM) spies8claude: Which dems?
(7:26:31 PM) spies8stephanie: i'll have to look
(7:26:40 PM) spies8stephanie: but i thought it fairly odd
(7:26:41 PM) spies8claude: I don't remember people on my side expressing any particular suspicion toward her.

(7:27:44 PM) spies8stephanie: i wasn't keeping up over here and so thought the dems perhaps had found something
(7:28:01 PM) spies8claude: Nothing that I'm aware of
(7:29:33 PM) spies8stephanie: (2:17:23 AM) spies8tina: If Jenny goes up from Dems, I will probably vote Jenny.
(7:30:23 PM) spies8stephanie: that was one i surprised at
(7:32:47 PM) spies8stephanie: the other ones i can't find and don't remember, they may have been in public chat
(7:33:07 PM) spies8claude: Ah, maybe I misunderstood you at first.
(7:33:30 PM) spies8claude: You mean that the people on your side were wishing we nominated Jenny
(7:34:16 PM) spies8stephanie: i sure thought i had seen people say that, but can't find
(7:36:01 PM) spies8stephanie: 9:46:57 PM) spies8lilith: (I was hoping for Jenny, lol)
(9:47:03 PM) spies8owen: Was also hoping for Jenny.

(7:36:12 PM) spies8stephanie: found it
(7:36:45 PM) spies8claude: right
(7:36:47 PM) spies8claude: so people on YOUR side
(7:36:49 PM) spies8claude: I get it now
(7:37:04 PM) spies8claude: At first it read like you were saying that people on my side wanted to nominate her
(7:37:14 PM) spies8stephanie: oh sry no
(7:43:02 PM) spies8stephanie: dinner time for me claude, good to talk to you

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8cory at 7/2/2010 5:54:38 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(5:54:43 PM) spies8stephanie: hi cory
(5:55:17 PM) spies8cory: Hi
(5:55:38 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't think i've talked to you at all yet?
(5:55:52 PM) spies8cory: Nope. First time.
(5:57:03 PM) spies8stephanie: so what did you think about exile last night?
(5:57:32 PM) spies8stephanie: you were a mags voter, right?
(5:57:36 PM) spies8cory: Yeah
(5:57:46 PM) spies8cory: It turned out just about as I expected
(5:57:54 PM) spies8cory: I didn't think the GOP would vote out our nominee
(5:58:26 PM) spies8stephanie: rly?
(5:58:54 PM) spies8stephanie: i would have guessed the other way round
(6:00:10 PM) spies8stephanie: and i did vote mags
(6:00:46 PM) spies8cory: In the revote. Who did you vote for originally?
(6:00:53 PM) spies8stephanie: lawrence
(6:01:06 PM) spies8cory: What made you vote him?
(6:01:08 PM) spies8stephanie: i still think he's a spy
(6:01:25 PM) spies8stephanie: he didn't make any sense
(6:02:03 PM) spies8stephanie: it was his whole thing about gut spy read on brod, most suspicious on jas, but if he had to vote would vote isaac or themba
(6:02:33 PM) spies8stephanie: that's what he told us the first time we talked to him, and i just can't seem to get past it
(6:02:55 PM) spies8stephanie: like he was trying to incriminate as many people as possible
(6:03:18 PM) spies8stephanie: all of the other new GOP's except new lilith
(6:03:42 PM) spies8stephanie: and if you are most susp of jas, why wouldn't you vote jas
(6:05:27 PM) spies8cory: I heard somewhere that you said you thought he was the doctor
(6:05:28 PM) spies8cory: Is this true?
(6:05:37 PM) spies8stephanie: NO
(6:05:44 PM) spies8cory: Okay, maybe I read wrong.
(6:05:58 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't know how this misinformation gets spread
(6:06:07 PM) spies8cory: Let me look. I thought I saw it in the chat earlier
(6:06:16 PM) spies8stephanie: i told ONE person that i had a guess that themba was the doc
(6:06:21 PM) spies8stephanie: it was just a guess
(6:06:40 PM) spies8stephanie: i did have an early cit read on her
(6:06:52 PM) spies8cory: Themba
(6:06:56 PM) spies8cory: You thought Themba was the doc?
(6:07:09 PM) spies8cory: Ok, that's what someone said in the chat earlier
(6:07:12 PM) spies8stephanie: it was a guess i was speculating on
(6:07:15 PM) spies8cory: I guess I confused it with Lawrence
(6:07:24 PM) spies8cory: Were you suspicious of Themba last episode?
(6:07:29 PM) spies8stephanie: NO
(6:07:53 PM) spies8stephanie: i've had a cit read on themba since day 1
(6:08:36 PM) spies8cory: BAsed on what?
(6:10:12 PM) spies8stephanie: the morning after the zeke grilling (where zeke had claimed that he didn't know how to use aim), themba was busy scouring her chat logs for evidence that he had to know how to use aim -- she thought he had claimed to have played spies before
(6:10:40 PM) spies8stephanie: she never found it, or found it and it was someone else, but i thought it cit-like that she was looking
(6:10:57 PM) spies8stephanie: and not just jumping on someone else's suspicions
(6:11:16 PM) spies8stephanie: and i talked to her quite a bit early on
(6:13:44 PM) spies8stephanie: so would you vote mags again?
(6:13:59 PM) spies8stephanie: this episode?
(6:14:11 PM) spies8cory: I'm not sure
(6:14:15 PM) spies8cory: Jenny has pinged my radar as well
(6:14:27 PM) spies8stephanie: tell me about jenny
(6:14:30 PM) spies8cory: I came close to voting her, but it would've done nothing in the end
(6:14:35 PM) spies8cory: Lots of stuff about Jenny
(6:14:41 PM) spies8cory: I suspect her for:
(6:15:02 PM) spies8cory: - Having the strategy of looking for Citizens instead of Spies. this strategy enables her to avoid flinging dirt at people
(6:15:24 PM) spies8cory: - Disappearing in the Republican chat when the subject of Alexei was discussed. Mary cited several points where this happened in a chat with me.
(6:16:00 PM) spies8cory: - Subtly defending Alexei, comparing him to Callahan from Spies 6 and fearing that he would be a recreation of that exile, but also telling me that she didn't mind seeing him get exiled. In the end, she voted against his exile.
(6:16:10 PM) spies8cory: - The claiming of Allan's role when he was in no danger of being exiled.
(6:17:11 PM) spies8stephanie: i haven't had a chance to talk to her again
(6:17:22 PM) spies8stephanie: about the whole claim thing
(6:20:43 PM) spies8stephanie: before the allan claim i was just mildly suspicious of jenny's lurking
(6:20:59 PM) spies8stephanie: she always invited you to chat and was always around, but never said much
(6:25:31 PM) spies8cory: Yeah, well
(6:25:33 PM) spies8cory: That's kind of part of it
(6:25:44 PM) spies8cory: She's around a lot but usually not looking for Spies.
(6:25:47 PM) spies8cory: Which bugs me
(6:25:51 PM) spies8cory: And also, sorry for my delayed responses
(6:25:54 PM) spies8cory: I'm in and out. Lo.
(6:26:44 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm also talking to mary so np



Conversation with spies8cory at 7/3/2010 8:29:36 AM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(8:29:42 AM) spies8stephanie: hi cory
(8:29:50 AM) spies8stephanie: you're up early thls morning
(8:32:52 AM) spies8cory: Hi
(8:32:56 AM) spies8cory: Really early
(8:33:04 AM) spies8cory: 5:30
(8:33:10 AM) spies8cory: 7:30 now
(8:34:30 AM) spies8stephanie: i am still trying to understand the claude/chance situation
(8:34:46 AM) spies8stephanie: do you understand what's going on with them?
(8:37:49 AM) spies8cory: Yeah
(8:37:53 AM) spies8cory: They've been at it since early on
(8:38:03 AM) spies8cory: Basically it all started in episode one
(8:38:22 AM) spies8cory: Chance thought Tina and I were communicating across teams because I referred to a conversation we had after the opening chat
(8:38:32 AM) spies8cory: Chance thought that teams had been decided then, and therefore concluded I was a Spy with Tina
(8:38:49 AM) spies8cory: Claude, who already suspected me at the time, latched onto this and thought it was further proof I was a spy
(8:39:05 AM) spies8cory: However, I pointed out that teams weren't decided till the next day, so Chance dropped it
(8:39:08 AM) spies8cory: He then attacked Claude
(8:39:17 AM) spies8cory: Because Claude didn't "check the facts"
(8:39:20 AM) spies8cory: Which is hypocritical
(8:39:35 AM) spies8cory: However, since then Chance has come up with other reasons for going after Claude
(8:39:38 AM) spies8cory: He has a whole thread about it
(8:40:06 AM) spies8stephanie: and claude's claim?
(8:40:18 AM) spies8cory: He claimed a role that will let him mess with people's votes
(8:40:22 AM) spies8cory: He's used it twice on Chance already
(8:40:25 AM) spies8stephanie: are you pretty sure it's real?
(8:40:30 AM) spies8cory: Chance thinks this is further proof that Claude is a Spy.
(8:40:32 AM) spies8cory: It's definitely real
(8:40:45 AM) spies8cory: Chance was definitely not able to vote in Episode 2
(8:40:55 AM) spies8cory: his vote came up as "No Vote" and he got no penalty for it
(8:41:00 AM) spies8cory: So something definitely happened there
(8:41:11 AM) spies8stephanie: yes, something def happened
(8:41:49 AM) spies8stephanie: maybe it's just that i am always leary of claims
(8:43:28 AM) spies8stephanie: and then how did chance get immunity from exile?
(8:43:56 AM) spies8cory: That's still unknown. Lol.
(8:45:22 AM) spies8stephanie: and the second time that claude used his power on chance, he just prevented him from voting for 2 people?
(8:45:46 AM) spies8stephanie: oh nvm i found that
(8:46:47 AM) spies8stephanie: something just smells fishy to me about this whole deal and i can't manage to put my finger on it
(8:46:58 AM) spies8cory: Yeah
(8:47:25 AM) spies8stephanie: did you notice sam said that we had our first "public" bribe this last episode
(8:47:47 AM) spies8stephanie: what if there was a previous bribe that was not public?
(8:48:17 AM) spies8stephanie: that took chance's vote away AND made him immune?
(8:48:18 AM) spies8cory: Good point
(8:48:34 AM) spies8cory: Well
(8:48:38 AM) spies8cory: I guess it depends on how bribes work
(8:49:31 AM) spies8cory: Sorry I'm in and out Lol
(8:49:39 AM) spies8stephanie: np
(8:52:03 AM) spies8cory: I think Chance has the better chance of being the bad guy of the two
(8:53:50 AM) spies8stephanie: no, on 2nd look sam says that chance's immunity was due to a role (so i take it that means not a bribe)

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8gertrude at 7/5/2010 10:53:50 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(10:54:00 PM) spies8stephanie: hi gert
(10:54:19 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't think i've talked to you, have i?
(11:27:56 PM) spies8gertrude: Hey, I'm so sorry.
(11:28:50 PM) spies8stephanie: so tell me what you are making of game so far, and what i really want to know is what you know about your immunity
(11:29:02 PM) spies8gertrude: Wow, finally someone asks me.
(11:29:40 PM) spies8gertrude: I have no clue what's up with my Immunity. But I find it very odd that no one is mentioning it, considering Chance, when he was Immune, was talked about incessantly.
(11:30:41 PM) spies8stephanie: did you get a message about it in your confessional, or just see it in the burg?
(11:30:51 PM) spies8gertrude: Just in the Burg, like everyone else.
(11:30:59 PM) spies8gertrude: Someone else told me I was Immune, ha.
(11:31:04 PM) spies8gertrude: I was like, "...?"
(11:34:17 PM) spies8stephanie: and do you know any reason why someone would make you immune?
(11:34:29 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm still trying to catch up on this side
(11:34:41 PM) spies8stephanie: but it looked like chance had a lot of suspicions on him
(11:34:47 PM) spies8stephanie: but i haven't seen that much on you
(11:35:04 PM) spies8gertrude: Well, I'm somewhat of a suspected person, so I would hope that a townie thought I was worth saving from the lynch.
(11:36:18 PM) spies8stephanie: you voted mags last time? are you thinking of voting her again?
(11:37:08 PM) spies8gertrude: No, I probably won't.
(11:38:34 PM) spies8stephanie: i would like to vote lawrence again, cause he is def on my spy list
(11:38:49 PM) spies8stephanie: but i hate to be a sole vote once again
(11:39:04 PM) spies8stephanie: and even if he is a spy there are still 5 others out there
(11:39:18 PM) spies8stephanie: so i haven't decided yet
(11:39:34 PM) spies8stephanie: who are you leaning towards if not mags?
(11:42:05 PM) spies8gertrude: Ugh, I don't know. I feel like I NEED to be a lone vote this time.
(11:42:20 PM) spies8gertrude: Because apparently I'm the biggest bandwagoner.
(11:42:44 PM) spies8stephanie: uh oh lol
(12:46:56 AM) spies8gertrude: Hi, are you still here?
(12:47:02 AM) spies8stephanie: yep
(12:47:06 AM) spies8gertrude: Great.
(12:47:17 AM) spies8stephanie: did you actually respond to brod?
(12:47:24 AM) spies8gertrude: Broderick has asked you a question over and over before, right?
(12:47:29 AM) spies8gertrude: I'm working on it.
(12:47:44 AM) spies8stephanie: more than once, yes
(12:48:04 AM) spies8gertrude: Do you remember what the specific questions were so I can find them?
(12:49:36 AM) spies8stephanie: the first one was about why zeke was suspicious
(12:49:53 AM) spies8gertrude: Just found that.
(12:50:22 AM) spies8stephanie: the second one was why lawrence was not an easy target
(12:50:45 AM) spies8stephanie: he's had run ins with a lot of people tho, i think
(12:50:51 AM) spies8gertrude: Yes.
(12:50:53 AM) spies8stephanie: got into it with lilith once
(12:50:56 AM) spies8gertrude: I am collecting them
(12:50:59 AM) spies8gertrude: Oh, really?
(12:51:48 AM) spies8stephanie: yeah, she stood up to him better than i did, as i recall
(12:52:20 AM) spies8stephanie: i think he's a cit with a baaaad spyhunting technique
(12:52:27 AM) spies8gertrude: Me too.
(12:52:33 AM) spies8gertrude: And I'm going to call him out for it.
(12:53:10 AM) spies8stephanie: you go girl, good luck
(12:53:20 AM) spies8gertrude: Ha, thanks.
(1:32:44 AM) spies8stephanie: i just finished reading your response!
(1:32:49 AM) spies8stephanie: excellent!
(1:35:21 AM) spies8gertrude: Ha, thank you!
(1:36:26 AM) spies8stephanie: i just never want to talk with brod again
(1:36:36 AM) spies8gertrude: ^


Conversation with spies8lilith at 7/6/2010 1:22:07 AM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(1:22:07 AM) spies8lilith: I am hereforth making a request of the mafia to kill Broderick, would you like to assist me in writing up this proposal? (LOL)
(1:22:17 AM) spies8stephanie: lol yes
(1:22:28 AM) spies8stephanie: oh wait
(1:22:46 AM) spies8stephanie: i was going to say i had already put that request in my confessional
(1:22:52 AM) spies8stephanie: but i think that was dane
(1:23:11 AM) spies8stephanie: i think gert would be on board
(1:24:45 AM) spies8lilith: I want to be the one that posts it, just to piss him off :-D
(1:25:26 AM) spies8stephanie: go for it!
(1:25:58 AM) spies8stephanie: i just want to disengage with broderick
(1:26:06 AM) spies8stephanie: i don't ever want to talk to him again

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8mary at 7/2/2010 5:50:48 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(5:50:57 PM) spies8stephanie: hi mary
(6:15:40 PM) spies8mary: Hi.
(6:16:06 PM) spies8stephanie: just trying to talk to the people i haven't seen in a while
(6:16:34 PM) spies8mary: I'm not sure we've ever spoken about the game.
(6:16:40 PM) spies8stephanie: right
(6:17:03 PM) spies8mary: What did you think of last night's Exile?
(6:17:31 PM) spies8stephanie: ugh
(6:17:34 PM) spies8stephanie: not much
(6:17:49 PM) spies8stephanie: i voted for lawrence and mags
(6:17:49 PM) spies8mary: What do you think of Zed?
(6:17:52 PM) spies8mary: Yes.
(6:18:06 PM) spies8stephanie: i think zeke is fairly clueless cit
(6:18:12 PM) spies8mary: Why Cit?
(6:18:30 PM) spies8stephanie: because of the way alexei attacked him in our first chat
(6:18:46 PM) spies8stephanie: i think alex was looking for an easy target
(6:18:58 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm not entirely sold on this
(6:19:05 PM) spies8mary: Ok.
(6:19:15 PM) spies8mary: Who came up with that argument first, you or Tina?
(6:19:19 PM) spies8mary: Or both independently?
(6:19:35 PM) spies8stephanie: it could possibly have been a spy on spy distraction, but i don't think so right now
(6:19:53 PM) spies8stephanie: came up with it first, idk, i thought it was obvious
(6:20:18 PM) spies8stephanie: and that's why i moved dane off my suspect list
(6:20:27 PM) spies8mary: Why's that?
(6:20:35 PM) spies8mary: Because he and Alexei fought?
(6:22:08 PM) spies8stephanie: themba put an early omgus vote on dane, and then i built a case on dane, and then alex jumped on it
(6:22:16 PM) spies8mary: Ok.
(6:22:20 PM) spies8mary: That makes sense.
(6:22:25 PM) spies8stephanie: still looking for an easy target evidently
(6:22:34 PM) spies8mary: You suspected Lawrence yesterday.
(6:22:38 PM) spies8mary: Why?
(6:22:39 PM) spies8stephanie: still do
(6:22:54 PM) spies8stephanie: he made no sense when he first got to the dems
(6:23:25 PM) spies8mary: His vote on Themba was terrible.
(6:24:01 PM) spies8stephanie: our first conversation with him, he said he had a gut spy read on broderick, most suspicious of jasmine, but if he had to vote right then would vote isaac or themba
(6:24:07 PM) spies8mary: And then he switched to you which looked like OMGUS.
(6:24:18 PM) spies8stephanie: looked like someone trying to throw around as many suspicions as possible
(6:24:35 PM) spies8mary: Did Tina back off of him because you suspected Lawrence?
(6:24:41 PM) spies8stephanie: idk
(6:24:49 PM) spies8mary: She made a case and then dropped it.
(6:25:00 PM) spies8mary: Right after you agreed with it.
(6:25:18 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah, idk, i think she just found someone who looked more suspicious
(6:25:20 PM) spies8mary: Did you get much of a read on Rondak?
(6:25:33 PM) spies8stephanie: which is i guess how lawrence is slipping under the radar
(6:25:44 PM) spies8stephanie: haha
(6:26:03 PM) spies8mary: I guess that's a no.
(6:26:11 PM) spies8mary: You seemed to suspect him a little at one point.
(6:26:18 PM) spies8stephanie: i brought forth an early suspicion of rondak that has been called the stupidest thing ever by more people than i can count
(6:26:28 PM) spies8mary: Oh, the bussed thing.
(6:26:43 PM) spies8mary: How about Owen?
(6:26:48 PM) spies8mary: Is he a Cit?
(6:27:03 PM) spies8stephanie: omg i sure hope so
(6:27:21 PM) spies8stephanie: i said when i sent him my 7 answers that if he was a spy we are doomed
(6:27:24 PM) spies8mary: He looks ok to me.
(6:27:30 PM) spies8mary: But I've never spoken with him.
(6:27:43 PM) spies8mary: Did anyone look bad on the Savannah wagon?
(6:28:04 PM) spies8stephanie: oddly i had mild suspicions of owen at one time and also of gabe, but have since but those aaway
(6:28:12 PM) spies8stephanie: we all looked bad
(6:28:16 PM) spies8stephanie: ugh
(6:28:35 PM) spies8mary: Who are your top suspects now?
(6:28:40 PM) spies8stephanie: i still think tho that savannah looked worse than anyone
(6:28:49 PM) spies8stephanie: why didn't she claim earlier?
(6:29:08 PM) spies8stephanie: i still have larry as my top suspect
(6:29:19 PM) spies8mary: I don't know. I only know she claimed Messenger after votes were closed.
(6:29:24 PM) spies8stephanie: and of course am just getting to talk to everyone again
(6:29:32 PM) spies8stephanie: but why wait?
(6:29:46 PM) spies8stephanie: totally diff than claude
(6:30:07 PM) spies8stephanie: how about your suspects?
(6:30:15 PM) spies8mary: Claude's claim was bad regardless of his alignment.
(6:30:20 PM) spies8mary: Maybe a little better for a Spy.
(6:30:45 PM) spies8mary: My top few from my team are Magalie, Chance and Jenny.
(6:30:51 PM) spies8mary: Isaac from your team.
(6:31:04 PM) spies8mary: Lawrence looks sketchy too.
(6:31:22 PM) spies8stephanie: mags is ridiculous
(6:31:27 PM) spies8stephanie: ugh
(6:31:32 PM) spies8stephanie: tell me about chance
(6:32:14 PM) spies8mary: Chance I got a real strong read on early.
(6:32:21 PM) spies8mary: Manipulative.
(6:32:32 PM) spies8mary: Episode 2 his vote was stolen and he just lurked.
(6:32:49 PM) spies8mary: Threw snowballs at Claude and watched Margot go down.
(6:33:06 PM) spies8mary: Got a sketchy role used on him.
(6:33:25 PM) spies8mary: Hasn't asked me anything but listed me in his top 6 spy suspects.
(6:33:34 PM) spies8mary: Has very few spy reads.
(6:33:44 PM) spies8mary: Yesterday he said "Rondak and Jenny"
(6:34:02 PM) spies8mary: I asked for details, he says nice things about Jenny and says he doesn't really know Rondak.
(6:34:21 PM) spies8stephanie: that's iffy
(6:34:38 PM) spies8mary: Magalie is not in his list of 6 spies.
(6:34:44 PM) spies8stephanie: did you notice last night that sam said we had our first "public" bribe?
(6:34:49 PM) spies8mary: When we ask who he's voting for, he said "Magalie".
(6:35:19 PM) spies8stephanie: he did vote mags, right?
(6:35:26 PM) spies8mary: I think so.
(6:35:33 PM) spies8mary: So why's she not in his 6 spies list?
(6:35:45 PM) spies8mary: That he made yesterday morning?
(6:35:55 PM) spies8stephanie: good question
(6:36:29 PM) spies8mary: I was in his list and he took me off the moment I started a chat with him.
(6:36:32 PM) spies8mary: Really weird.
(6:36:42 PM) spies8mary: Sorry, also chatting with Jasmine.
(6:36:47 PM) spies8mary: What do you think of her?
(6:37:53 PM) spies8stephanie: i think she is disruptive in chats
(6:38:23 PM) spies8stephanie: she seems more concerned with her own personal safety than in spy hunting
(6:38:27 PM) spies8mary: What do you think of her suspects?
(6:38:41 PM) spies8stephanie: all over the place?
(6:38:46 PM) spies8mary: Really?
(6:38:59 PM) spies8stephanie: isaac
(6:39:03 PM) spies8mary: I've seen Chance and Isaac mostly
(6:39:13 PM) spies8stephanie: then voted themba and yes chance
(6:39:38 PM) spies8stephanie: but she doesn't ever talk them much
(6:40:06 PM) spies8mary: Who else did she suspect?
(6:40:10 PM) spies8mary: I saw her mention you.
(6:40:25 PM) spies8stephanie: probably
(6:41:05 PM) spies8mary: What do you think of Isaac?
(6:41:17 PM) spies8stephanie: i have not talked to him that much
(6:41:51 PM) spies8stephanie: have not got much of a read on him
(6:42:06 PM) spies8stephanie: how about you?
(6:42:36 PM) spies8mary: He blended into the background a lot in our group chats the first two days.
(6:42:58 PM) spies8mary: Jasmine and I compared notes and his suspicions didn't seem very consistent.
(6:43:27 PM) spies8mary: And his vote for Jasmine kind of looked weird.
(6:43:40 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah, jas was right about a lot of people seem vaguely suspicious of him, but nothing there when they looked
(6:43:44 PM) spies8mary: He couldn't come up with a top three of suspects.
(6:43:56 PM) spies8mary: And then ended up voting for the #3 he came up with later.
(6:44:59 PM) spies8stephanie: i had a run in with broderick the other night, he just drives me crazy
(6:45:19 PM) spies8mary: He is the next person I need to read up on.
(6:45:26 PM) spies8stephanie: saw he tried the same thing with lilith last night
(6:45:31 PM) spies8mary: He managed to make very little impression on me in two weeks.
(6:45:37 PM) spies8stephanie: lucky you
(6:45:44 PM) spies8mary: He fought with Nita today.
(6:45:53 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm leaning cit on him, but just want to stay away
(6:46:20 PM) spies8stephanie: cause that seems to be his technique for spy-hunting, have a fight with everyone
(6:46:52 PM) spies8mary: I hope he doesn't start anything with me.
(6:46:59 PM) spies8mary: That's how Dr. Crowhurst got hurt.
(6:47:08 PM) spies8stephanie: broderick?
(6:47:27 PM) spies8mary: Dr. Crowhurst was my fiance.
(6:47:48 PM) spies8mary: He's a doctor at my hospital.
(6:47:52 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah i saw the drama from last night
(6:48:00 PM) spies8mary: Ok.
(6:48:07 PM) spies8stephanie: that was horrible
(6:48:20 PM) spies8mary: Yes. What Simon did to him was awful.
(6:48:24 PM) spies8mary: Even if he deserved it a little.
(6:48:27 PM) spies8mary: For lying.
(6:48:51 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah, lying not good
(6:49:14 PM) spies8mary: Now the police want to talk to me about what happened so I have to hide when they knock.
(6:49:45 PM) spies8stephanie: they will find you eventually, you should just talk to them
(6:50:49 PM) spies8stephanie: so, jenny?
(6:50:55 PM) spies8mary: Yes.
(6:51:06 PM) spies8mary: I don't like how she dodged the topic of Alexei aa lot.
(6:51:09 PM) spies8mary: In your group chats.
(6:51:11 PM) spies8stephanie: i haven't had a chance to talk with her since the claim
(6:51:16 PM) spies8mary: Did you notice that?
(6:51:24 PM) spies8stephanie: sure
(6:51:32 PM) spies8stephanie: her only suspect was zeke
(6:51:33 PM) spies8stephanie: ever
(6:51:35 PM) spies8mary: Right.
(6:51:47 PM) spies8mary: Everyone brought up evidence and she never discussed it
(6:51:53 PM) spies8mary: Got dead silent when it came up.
(6:52:01 PM) spies8stephanie: she got silent a lot
(6:52:03 PM) spies8mary: And just stayed locked on Zed.
(6:52:20 PM) spies8stephanie: has anyone talked to allan?
(6:52:25 PM) spies8mary: Not much.
(6:52:39 PM) spies8mary: He pops in and leaves pretty fast.
(6:52:45 PM) spies8mary: And seems disinterested.
(6:53:04 PM) spies8mary: But apparently he trusted her on day two before any voting or anything.
(6:54:10 PM) spies8stephanie: after the savannah exile, i actually tried to talk to him and he got mad at me and said he didn't want to talk to me anymore
(6:54:55 PM) spies8mary: Ok.
(6:54:57 PM) spies8stephanie: i had thought he was pretty reasonable in the few short chats i'd had with him until the hambone case
(6:55:35 PM) spies8mary: We didn't ask him any more about his role considering Jenny claimed it and not him.
(6:55:40 PM) spies8stephanie: and i thought the hambone case was pretty weak and said so in the chat, but in the meantime, allan had confessed to lying
(6:55:42 PM) spies8mary: His voting is terrible though.
(6:56:10 PM) spies8stephanie: he's never here, so i think his voting has to be terrible
(6:56:15 PM) spies8stephanie: same with lawrence
(6:56:35 PM) spies8stephanie: lawrence claims to read the chat logs etc, but it's not the same
(6:56:36 PM) spies8mary: I haven't gotten to know Hambone much.
(6:56:53 PM) spies8mary: His posts look ok, he looks enthusiastic about spyhunting and interested.
(6:57:03 PM) spies8mary: What's your take on him from the first two weeks?
(6:57:45 PM) spies8stephanie: when i originally started looking for bussers on the alex wagon, his name came up
(6:58:03 PM) spies8stephanie: also labeled the stupidist thing ever
(6:58:20 PM) spies8stephanie: sry just bugs me
(6:58:39 PM) spies8stephanie: gabe had a good opinion of him, so maybe he's ok
(6:59:28 PM) spies8stephanie: hambone seemed to be sucking up to everyone originally which is why i thought he was suspicious
(7:00:16 PM) spies8mary: Is that not what he was doing?
(7:00:20 PM) spies8stephanie: but i later discovered that he is from a survivor background, not mafia, so maybe it makes sense
(7:00:25 PM) spies8mary: Ok.
(7:00:53 PM) spies8mary: Gertrude has been like that for all three episodes. At first it looked innocent but I am starting to look at her more closely.
(7:01:02 PM) spies8mary: She is very image conscious.
(7:01:16 PM) spies8mary: Yesterday, she didn't want to be seen voting on a bandwagon.
(7:01:22 PM) spies8mary: Because she was on one the first two exiles.
(7:03:03 PM) spies8stephanie: but i thought she voted mags yesterdy?
(7:06:37 PM) spies8mary: Yes.
(7:06:42 PM) spies8mary: So she failed at her mission.
(7:42:28 PM) spies8stephanie: dinner time for me mary, good to talk to you
(7:42:43 PM) spies8mary: You too. Have a nice weekend if I don't see you.
(7:42:54 PM) spies8stephanie: ty

[Stephanie]

My new crazy theory, explained to Tina, who just shot it full of holes:
Conversation with spies8tina at 7/7/2010 8:03:50 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(8:03:57 PM) spies8stephanie: hi tina
(8:04:09 PM) spies8tina: Hello.
(8:04:39 PM) spies8stephanie: how are you?
(8:04:54 PM) spies8tina: Not bad, more or less just waiting to see flip.
(8:04:56 PM) spies8stephanie: have you figured out anything about the vote shroud?
(8:05:05 PM) spies8tina: Nope. I think it is just a distraction.
(8:05:19 PM) spies8tina: Not like any of the three vote people were in danger of being exiled.
(8:05:46 PM) spies8stephanie: when will we find out if claude actually targeted allan?
(8:06:09 PM) spies8tina: I think he did, although you would have to ask Allan to be sure.
(8:06:36 PM) spies8stephanie: i have another one of my crazy theories
(8:07:02 PM) spies8stephanie: that claude's role is totally bogus
(8:07:56 PM) spies8tina: I don't think it can be.
(8:08:09 PM) spies8tina: He made Chance not be able to vote, Chance did not vote, and Chance got no penalty votes.
(8:08:31 PM) spies8tina: Unless Sam is interfering in the game to help a fakeclaim, the role is real.
(8:08:39 PM) spies8stephanie: let me explain
(8:08:50 PM) spies8stephanie: i think there have been private bribes
(8:09:15 PM) spies8stephanie: sam said in the last exile that we had our first "public" bribe
(8:09:50 PM) spies8stephanie: i think chance took the first public bribe that gave him immunity from exile and took away his vote
(8:10:17 PM) spies8stephanie: i think that gertrude took the second bribe that did the same
(8:10:33 PM) spies8stephanie: all would be exposed now, so we have the vote shroud
(8:10:49 PM) spies8stephanie: first private*
(8:10:55 PM) spies8tina: So you think they are spies together?
(8:11:14 PM) spies8stephanie: not necessarily
(8:11:35 PM) spies8stephanie: but think claude could be a spy who just made up his role
(8:11:48 PM) spies8tina: Why would he make up something proveable?
(8:11:52 PM) spies8stephanie: cause he knew chance's vote was going to disappear
(8:11:56 PM) spies8tina: And that needs to be continually proven.
(8:12:26 PM) spies8stephanie: his claim timing was susp
(8:12:37 PM) spies8stephanie: it's risky, but might pay off
(8:12:50 PM) spies8tina: I don't think what you are suggesting is impossible, but I do think it is improbable.
(8:12:55 PM) spies8stephanie: of course, he didn't know about allan at the time
(8:13:04 PM) spies8stephanie: he could always claim he was blocked
(8:13:17 PM) spies8tina: Would require multiple taken bribes, Chance to be a spy, whoever Claude targeted E2 to be a spy.
(8:13:22 PM) spies8stephanie: but i think allan could prove it
(8:13:46 PM) spies8tina: I think Claude has his role.
(8:14:01 PM) spies8stephanie: no i think part of the condition of the bribe would be that you can't discuss it
(8:14:13 PM) spies8stephanie: i know another crazy theory
(8:14:32 PM) spies8stephanie: but if for some reason allan was not the target, it will look a little better
(8:14:46 PM) spies8tina: That is another improbability in this case especially. It would be like telling Chance "Claude is a spy, but you cannot tell anyone why you know he is a spy".
(8:14:52 PM) spies8stephanie: if allan can confirm it, then it's just crazy
(8:16:11 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah, that doesn't really work does it?
(8:16:31 PM) spies8tina: I would bet a whole lot on Claude having his role, what is up to debate is his alignment.
(8:17:15 PM) spies8stephanie: ok, i am still guessing that the vote shroud has to do with bribes somehow
(8:17:30 PM) spies8stephanie: the way sam said first public bribe
(8:17:43 PM) spies8stephanie: just made me think there had to have been private bribes
(8:18:06 PM) spies8stephanie: and we certainly haven't come up with any other reason for it
(8:18:33 PM) spies8stephanie: looks like it might have been a one-time deal, i'd have saved it for a better time for the confusion factor
(8:18:53 PM) spies8tina: It said "A role caused it" I think.
(8:19:12 PM) spies8tina: Unless a role is the briber and not a factional thing.
(8:20:13 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah, that's the other thing that doesn't exactly fit into my theory
(8:20:25 PM) spies8stephanie: a role caused the immunity
(8:21:22 PM) spies8stephanie: but i can just ignore that...it could be the briber