EP8 Convos

[Bizarrondak]

19:11:11 spies8stephanie: hi rondak
19:12:53 Brondak (spies8rondak): hello
19:13:09 spies8stephanie: may i ask who you are voting?
19:13:39 Brondak (spies8rondak): lastly I checked, awohali
19:13:51 spies8stephanie: oh dear
19:13:53 Brondak (spies8rondak): but I've changed like 10 times already
19:14:11 Brondak (spies8rondak): who are you voting?
19:14:17 spies8stephanie: jenny
19:15:04 spies8stephanie: i think the case on awohali is pretty weak
19:15:05 Brondak (spies8rondak): it looks like there might be a tie
19:15:33 Brondak (spies8rondak): Someone said I was planning on voting on him
19:15:42 Brondak (spies8rondak): Then he said he hadn't talked with me
19:15:46 Brondak (spies8rondak): I started a conversation
19:15:52 Brondak (spies8rondak): and then he said "now you want to talk?"
19:16:17 Brondak (spies8rondak): I genuinely wanted to chat.
19:16:29 Brondak (spies8rondak): He could've swayed my vote.
19:16:58 spies8stephanie: ugh
19:17:24 spies8stephanie: he does seem to be panicking a little
19:17:35 spies8stephanie: he's usually not so snarky
19:18:16 spies8stephanie: but panic i guess is to be expected when you're under the gun like he is
19:18:48 spies8stephanie: how do you figure a tie?
19:19:01 spies8stephanie: i thought if you voted jenny you might cause a tie
19:19:29 Brondak (spies8rondak): I thought it was 3-on-3 right now
19:19:41 Brondak (spies8rondak): with the others spread on chance and claude
19:20:06 spies8stephanie: i thought chance, gert, claude were on awohali
19:20:20 spies8stephanie: and cinnamyn
19:20:31 spies8stephanie: only mary and me on jenny
19:20:40 spies8stephanie: but i haven't been around this afternoon
19:21:22 spies8stephanie: oh and awohali on jenny
19:21:39 spies8stephanie: owen is a big unknown
19:21:48 Brondak (spies8rondak): I thought Claude was on Chance
19:21:55 spies8stephanie: nope
19:22:01 spies8stephanie: i think he's given up on chance
19:22:14 Brondak (spies8rondak): lol

[Bizarrondak]

22:46:56 spies8stephanie: rondak
22:47:15 spies8stephanie: what are you thinking now?
22:48:17 Brondak (spies8rondak): Unless the spies are very inactive, my next suspects are Chance and Jenny
22:48:25 Brondak (spies8rondak): although Claude might be one as well
22:48:40 spies8stephanie: and dane!
22:49:44 Brondak (spies8rondak): anybody could be a spy at this point
22:50:32 spies8stephanie: but jenny is certainly odds on
22:50:37 spies8stephanie: after that...
22:52:24 Brondak (spies8rondak): she seemed to be like "HAh HA!"
23:02:38 Brondak (spies8rondak): hmmm
23:10:04 spies8stephanie: do you think jenny is going to try to mount a defense?
23:10:23 Brondak (spies8rondak): maybe she'll try to ignore
23:10:24 Brondak (spies8rondak): it
23:11:38 Brondak (spies8rondak): if she's in then hali was a good lynch4info
23:14:04 spies8stephanie: i'm interested to see if she tries to defend dane or not
23:16:47 Brondak (spies8rondak): since I don't think Awohali had any reason to throw Jenny under the bus if he was a cit, Jenny is an obvious suspect

[Bizarrondak]

20:11:27 spies8lawrence: Hello my good sir Rondak
20:11:38 Brondak (spies8rondak): Evening, Mr. Lawrence
20:11:45 spies8lawrence: How are you this fine evening?
20:11:52 Brondak (spies8rondak): Just peachy, and you?
20:12:19 spies8lawrence: Quite well . . . excited that we again have eight members of our cast on AIM
20:13:11 Brondak (spies8rondak): it was a busy week
20:13:20 spies8lawrence: I quite like the activity
20:13:27 spies8lawrence: The first few nights I was here were slow
20:14:09 Brondak (spies8rondak): yeah, I arrived here suring a break, so everything was pretty inactive
20:14:19 spies8lawrence: Understandable
20:26:26 Brondak (spies8rondak): I think I'll just vote randomly
20:26:36 Brondak (spies8rondak): unless I'vegot a strong feeling
20:26:49 spies8lawrence: This is a joke, right?
20:27:02 Brondak (spies8rondak): nope
20:27:19 Brondak (spies8rondak): I've been thinking about it
20:27:43 Brondak (spies8rondak): and due to everybody making a case on different people is bound to bias the senate
20:28:13 Brondak (spies8rondak): That would allow the spies to stay off the radar
20:29:54 spies8lawrence: No offense, but this is terrible
20:30:33 spies8lawrence: You should never vote randomly
20:33:07 Brondak (spies8rondak): why
20:33:33 spies8lawrence: The only weapon we have against the criminals in our midst is our vote
20:33:34 Brondak (spies8rondak): voting randomly might provoke unexpected reactions from some
20:33:56 spies8lawrence: By randomly voting, you are leaving the outcome of the game to random chance
20:34:43 Brondak (spies8rondak): But that way you can discover things you normally wouldn't
20:36:30 spies8lawrence: I agree, but the same strategy could be achieved in a more calculated manner, I believe
20:36:37 spies8lawrence: However, I do like that you are thinking along those lines
20:36:57 Brondak (spies8rondak): I decided since I came here that I wouldn't play conservatively

[Bizarrondak]

21:39:25 Spies8Cinnamyn: whassup rondak boo
21:39:53 Brondak (spies8rondak): hey cinnyminny
21:40:04 Brondak (spies8rondak): Being Senate is a tough job
21:40:09 Spies8Cinnamyn: lmbo.! i no rite
21:40:13 Spies8Cinnamyn: wut r u thinkin'.?
21:40:32 Brondak (spies8rondak): I will go back to my initial suspicion of Claude vs. Chance
21:40:40 Brondak (spies8rondak): I think at least one of those two is a spy
21:41:10 Brondak (spies8rondak): I said I was going to go with my gut feelings, but I've got indigestion
21:41:28 Spies8Cinnamyn: lmbo
21:41:40 Spies8Cinnamyn: wut were ur gut feelingz.?
21:42:13 Brondak (spies8rondak): I kept rotating between you, Chance and Claude
21:42:19 Brondak (spies8rondak): based only on the cases in the Burg
21:43:03 Brondak (spies8rondak): How do you decide who to vote for?
21:43:17 Spies8Cinnamyn: on who i think iz da most spyish based on my interacshinz and cases posted on dem
21:43:21 Spies8Cinnamyn: so i am goin' wit awohali
21:44:55 Brondak (spies8rondak): Because he's being too defensive?
21:45:09 Spies8Cinnamyn: well i posted a case on him in da burg, did u c it.?
21:45:13 Spies8Cinnamyn: but he iz rather defensive
21:45:38 Brondak (spies8rondak): that was my same logic to nom Chance last week
21:46:27 Spies8Cinnamyn: i think there iz a way 4 every1 2 b defensive, citz dont want 2 b exiled either. but i think if u defend urself by insulting da ppl who made a case on u, it iz spyish
21:46:29 Spies8Cinnamyn: which awohali haz dun
21:47:34 Brondak (spies8rondak): exactly
21:47:42 Brondak (spies8rondak): that or you're a douche
21:47:56 Spies8Cinnamyn: im a douche.?!?! lmbo.!
21:48:19 Brondak (spies8rondak): well, if you act that way
21:48:36 Brondak (spies8rondak): I think Awo is acting mildly like a jerk
21:48:48 Brondak (spies8rondak): But that cold be interpreted in many ways
21:48:50 Spies8Cinnamyn: tru. i think he findz himself untouchable and iz mad i pointed thingz out about him
21:49:00 Spies8Cinnamyn: but i laid out my suspishinz and he called them redickliss
21:49:10 Spies8Cinnamyn: and den iznt responding 2 dem bcuz he findz dem redickliss.? fishy
21:50:49 Brondak (spies8rondak): let's see what happens
21:50:56 Brondak (spies8rondak): maybe he's just an ass xD
21:52:53 Spies8Cinnamyn: i tend 2 think he iz a spy azz
21:53:27 Spies8Cinnamyn: wut about claude n' chance, r u voting 1 of dem.?
22:00:42 Brondak (spies8rondak): It's like playing roulette
22:00:49 Brondak (spies8rondak): I've got so many suspects that I keep switching
22:03:31 Spies8Cinnamyn: who do u suspect.?
22:04:42 Brondak (spies8rondak): My top three right now are Chance, claude and Awohali
22:04:50 Brondak (spies8rondak): followed by Jenny
22:05:05 Brondak (spies8rondak): but it has changed throughout the day
22:06:30 Spies8Cinnamyn: iz chance ur top.?
22:09:53 Brondak (spies8rondak): hmmm was
22:10:11 Brondak (spies8rondak): Partly because I hadn't heard anything from anybody
22:24:30 Spies8Cinnamyn: so r u basing ur vote based on wut other ppl say.?
22:25:03 Brondak (spies8rondak): yup
22:25:16 Brondak (spies8rondak): that and the group chats
22:28:19 Brondak (spies8rondak): just playing the game and having fun
22:28:31 Spies8Cinnamyn: gud 4 u lmbo
22:28:36 Spies8Cinnamyn: 2 many ppl take it so seriously
22:30:06 Brondak (spies8rondak): brod and hali for instance
22:30:09 Brondak (spies8rondak): sometimes chnce
22:30:14 Brondak (spies8rondak): too bad cory was imprisoned
22:30:25 Brondak (spies8rondak): he was intense, but at least he was fun to RP with

[Bizarrondak]

I know this might get me exiled, but I just love pissing off aggressive people, lol

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22:13:34 Brondak (spies8rondak): what's up
22:14:10 Spies8Awohali: Ah, so when called out, you are suddeny interested in speaking with me?
22:16:07 Spies8Awohali: I have heard that you intend to vote for me potentially. Could you explain why?
22:17:13 Brondak (spies8rondak): Mainly for that kind of attitude
22:17:51 Spies8Awohali: So you find an attitude to be a valid reason to exile someone?
22:17:56 Brondak (spies8rondak): yes
22:18:20 Brondak (spies8rondak): even though the main objective of the game is exiling Spies, I'd like to have fun playing as well
22:18:26 Brondak (spies8rondak): and dude, you have to admit
22:18:52 Brondak (spies8rondak): if you're going to burst everytime someone thinks about voting on you, someone's bound to suspect something
22:19:10 Spies8Awohali: Should I instead encourage people to vote for me?
22:19:24 Brondak (spies8rondak): No, but you don't have to be rude, or try to belittle their arguments
22:19:39 Brondak (spies8rondak): you could very well refute them without recurring to insults or aggressive comebacks
22:19:58 Spies8Awohali: If an argument is invalid, I have the duty to treat it as such. I do not simply say "These shoes suck" and walk away. I refute them with reason, and I do not insult or belittle people.
22:20:16 Brondak (spies8rondak): nad if they're not meant to be aggressive, I and other players interpret it as such
22:20:34 Spies8Awohali: I will be aggressive in defending myself, for that is my nature. I will not be eliminated under poor reasonings and lose my chance to play this game without a fight.
22:21:30 Brondak (spies8rondak): I respect that
22:21:48 Spies8Awohali: I thank you for that, but though you say that you respect it, you intend to vote for me because of it.
22:22:41 Brondak (spies8rondak): Respect does not equal agreement
22:23:07 Brondak (spies8rondak): Even if you say that's how you are, I still perceive it as something suspicious
22:23:40 Spies8Awohali: I am sorry that you feel that way, for I will not roll over and play dead and watch myself be Exiled anyway.
22:25:14 Spies8Awohali: What I shall say is this; if I am Exiled, know that it is entirely Jenny and Chance who suddenly suspected me, after I voted for both of them and tied them together, and people have all climbed aboard out of nowhere.
22:25:48 Brondak (spies8rondak): noted
22:26:10 Spies8Awohali: But I will not be Exiled, so that will not be an issue.
22:26:31 Brondak (spies8rondak): ok
22:27:06 Brondak (spies8rondak): Chances are, you are not a spy, and if you are exiled as a citizen, at least I'll confirm some suspicions
22:28:25 Spies8Awohali: I do not agree with the idea of lynching someone you see as a likely Citizen for the sake of confirming suspicions, however, if my death leads to their deaths, I can live with that, despite the fact that I will be dead.
22:28:42 Brondak (spies8rondak): I do not see you as a likely citizen
22:28:53 Brondak (spies8rondak): I just said that probabilistically speaking, you may not be one
22:29:20 Brondak (spies8rondak): let me correct the ambiguity
22:29:40 Spies8Awohali: An important distinction, for certain.
22:29:42 Brondak (spies8rondak): Probabilistically speaking, you may be a citizen, but your attitude makes me be inclined to think otherwise
22:30:36 Spies8Awohali: So are, of course false, but that is not a debatable subject for either of us,
22:31:52 Brondak (spies8rondak): the thing is, you never know who is lying
22:32:02 Brondak (spies8rondak): At least in RL mafia you get nonverbal cues
22:32:27 Brondak (spies8rondak): Here you can correct anything before you say it as if you had time to rehearse each and every line
22:33:04 Spies8Awohali: That is true, though that applies to everyone in the game, so I do not see that as valid reasoning for any one specific suspicion against someone.
22:33:30 Spies8Awohali: You could be lying to me with every word at the moment. It is possible. It is a matter of likelyhood that is important, and for that, you need actions and motives beyond the words.
22:34:15 Brondak (spies8rondak): true
22:34:44 Brondak (spies8rondak): but, I decide how I play
22:35:22 Brondak (spies8rondak): Maybe I'm not a seasoned vet, but I'll just go with what I want, which may not necessarily be seen as the "smart" choice.
22:36:32 Spies8Awohali: I can assure you that generally speaking, voting for someone's attitude is not a smart choice, especially here.
22:37:51 Brondak (spies8rondak): true, but since it's the last game, and my first, why settle for normal playing?
22:38:03 Spies8Awohali: Would'nt you like to win?
22:38:37 Brondak (spies8rondak): I don't see anything special on winning, besides there's lots of people that have played before
22:38:49 Spies8Awohali: What is the point of playing, then?
22:39:02 Brondak (spies8rondak): I'd rather play my own way and be eliminated when people find me too irritating than playing safe
22:39:20 Brondak (spies8rondak): The point of playing, for me, is having fun
22:39:44 Spies8Awohali: And it is fun to vote for people for more or less nothing pertaining to the actual game?
22:40:30 Brondak (spies8rondak): I'm having fun following my own strategy
22:41:07 Spies8Awohali: And in the meantime, this 'strategy', which consists of nothing, more or less, shall end the game for me and ruin my fun for no reason at all.
22:41:28 Brondak (spies8rondak): sorry
22:41:36 Brondak (spies8rondak): nothing personal, it's just a game.
22:42:28 Spies8Awohali: A game that I shall not lose due to whims.
22:42:40 Brondak (spies8rondak): good luck with that
22:42:49 Spies8Awohali: And no luck to you. We have nothing to discuss.
22:43:14 Brondak (spies8rondak):

[Bizarrondak]

0:30:13 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): hey Rondak
0:30:20 Brondak (spies8rondak): hey
0:30:48 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): Whats goin on?
0:31:28 Brondak (spies8rondak): I've got a bit of a headache
0:31:59 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): That sucks
0:32:49 Brondak (spies8rondak): how you doin'?
0:33:19 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): Good.
0:34:04 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): How are things going with game info and stuff?
0:34:36 Brondak (spies8rondak): good, I've still got to make sense of the voting history
0:34:40 Brondak (spies8rondak): but I'm getting there
0:37:20 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): Thats good.
0:37:26 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): Got any thoughts currently?
0:40:19 Brondak (spies8rondak): jenny's toast
0:42:12 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): Do you think she is a spy?
0:43:25 Brondak (spies8rondak): either that or a third party
0:43:40 Brondak (spies8rondak): I don't understand her reason for nominating me
0:43:44 Brondak (spies8rondak): reasoning*
0:44:31 Brondak (spies8rondak): mainly I'm voting for her out of a combination of suspicion, A-Rondak's confessionals, bandwagoning and OMGUS
0:45:39 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): Why not vote her last episode?
0:49:11 Brondak (spies8rondak): at that moment I though my vote wouln't make a difference, and awohali mildly provoked me
0:49:23 Brondak (spies8rondak): I switched my votes a lot lst episode
0:50:05 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): What do you mean wouldn't make a difference? By voting for Jenny?
0:50:12 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): How did Awohali provoke you?
0:51:33 Brondak (spies8rondak): I had announced my plan to vote for him
0:51:53 Brondak (spies8rondak): then he said in group chat that we hadn't talked 1-to-1
0:52:00 Brondak (spies8rondak): so I began a chat with him
0:52:10 Brondak (spies8rondak): and he began with "now you want to talk?!"
0:52:20 Brondak (spies8rondak): and the whole conversation spiraled downwards
0:53:13 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): He had a point there. you said you were going to vote for someone whom you'd never spoken directly to, yes?
0:53:27 Brondak (spies8rondak): yes
0:53:36 Brondak (spies8rondak): but when I wanted to talk with him, he brushed me off
0:53:47 Brondak (spies8rondak): I genuinely wanted to have a chat with him
0:56:10 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): Shouldn't you of talked with him, or at least made an attempt to before saying you were going to vote fo rhim?
0:56:14 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): When did this happen?
0:56:43 Brondak (spies8rondak): a think a day before eviction
0:58:25 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): Why did you decide to vote for Awohali, when I guess he wasn't on the list of people you suspected?
0:58:55 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): I mean you said you voted him because he mildly provoked you. But why did you say you were going to vote him in the first place, and over people you said you suspected?
1:00:41 Brondak (spies8rondak): I mostly suspected his aggressiveness
1:01:08 Brondak (spies8rondak): Or maybe was interpreting his responses to have more sarcasm than intended
1:01:13 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): Why is that suspicious?
1:01:19 Brondak (spies8rondak): I think it was lack of good comunication
1:01:42 Brondak (spies8rondak): I perceived that instead of refuting arguments made against him, he was attacking the argumenters instead
1:02:05 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): Uhm, was this before or after he refuted the cases made against him?
1:02:14 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): Did you see those
1:02:15 Spies8broderick (spies8broderick): ?
1:08:50 Brondak (spies8rondak): that was before, and I saw his rebuttals but wasn't convinced
1:08:57 Brondak (spies8rondak): sorry, i've got to go now
1:09:01 Brondak (spies8rondak): my head is killing me
1:09:04 Brondak (spies8rondak): ttyl

[Bizarrondak]

2:08:34 spies8owen: Hey Brondak. didn't even notice you were on until my 2nd Buddy List Jenny told me.
2:08:36 spies8owen: How goes it?
2:08:56 Brondak (spies8rondak): Everything is going perfect
2:09:02 Brondak (spies8rondak): Where were you?
2:09:13 spies8owen: Had a health issue, sir.
2:10:09 spies8owen: I'm good to go now though, or that's what I'm telling myself so that I'm completely active.
2:10:34 Brondak (spies8rondak): How was dictatorship?
2:10:43 spies8owen: Overwhelming.
2:11:16 spies8owen: Obviously trusted my intentions the most having the power, but I'm admittedly not much of a leader.
2:11:59 Brondak (spies8rondak): weren't you scared of imprisonment?
2:12:09 spies8owen: Had 2 rounds of immunity.
2:12:16 spies8owen: Was protected by Gertrude after that.
2:14:10 Brondak (spies8rondak): sounds like a sweet deal lol
2:15:28 spies8owen: Minus the stress of being looked upon to make big decisions & and protecting Gert/Chance and be secretive about it, it was.
2:15:38 spies8owen: being*
2:17:22 Brondak (spies8rondak): so are you part of the masons?
2:17:35 Brondak (spies8rondak): or were gert/chance the only ones?
2:17:49 spies8owen: I'm not a mason. Only Chance/Gert.
2:21:16 Brondak (spies8rondak): I heard that Masons are normally recruited
2:21:22 Brondak (spies8rondak): and if the leader dies, everybody dies
2:21:27 Brondak (spies8rondak): but I guess it's not the case here
2:21:38 spies8owen: In epicmafia, if they try to recruit a mafia, they all die too.
2:21:45 spies8owen: But yeah, they weren't able to recruit.
2:22:46 spies8owen: Anyway good sir, what are your thoughts on Kiara saying Awo was roleless?
2:24:45 spies8owen: In the night, I hear em' talk, coldest story ever told. Somewhere far along this road he lost his role. To a woman so heartless
2:24:46 spies8owen: ?
2:25:19 Brondak (spies8rondak): there are two possibilities
2:25:26 Brondak (spies8rondak): either Awohali lied or Kiara lied
2:25:33 spies8owen: Truth.
2:25:40 Brondak (spies8rondak): since Awohali would gain nothing by lying
2:25:45 spies8owen: Confirmed cit.
2:25:49 spies8owen: More likely to trust him.
2:25:58 Brondak (spies8rondak): and he even adopted that attitude in the exhile
2:26:08 spies8owen: Kiara, on the other hand, would make a lot of sense to lie about it.
2:26:15 spies8owen: Considering the amount of "town" roles out there.
2:26:21 spies8owen: One less role being out there looks good for her.
2:26:27 Brondak (spies8rondak): I'm also suspicious about Jenny
2:26:36 Brondak (spies8rondak): I don't understand her nominating me
2:26:49 Brondak (spies8rondak): she seems to be a little scared
2:27:16 spies8owen: I was on Jenny early, after Isaac flipped scum, not so much. Reason I originally suspected her was her playstyle -- she's experienced yet doesn't take stances or push anything.
2:28:16 spies8owen: I asked her if she's not scum, does she think any are nominated.
2:28:25 spies8owen: She mentioned you after that.
2:30:25 Brondak (spies8rondak): I'm thinking she nommed me for self preservation
2:31:55 spies8owen: Seems likely. I have a hard time believing that Awo was lying.
2:32:08 spies8owen: Even as he was leaving the chat and the votes were for him to go, he stuck with it.
2:33:14 spies8owen: Don't think you have much to worry about though. I'm not one to naively assume that someone is DEFINITELY going to be lynched, but unless Jenny is a magician, don't see her getting out of this shit.
2:33:50 Brondak (spies8rondak): she seems to be dismissing Awo's claims
2:33:57 Brondak (spies8rondak): but nobody is buying it