Mary's Episode 11 Conversations

[Mary]

[22:35] spies8mary: Hi.
[22:37] spies8stephanie: mary! where the heck have you been?
[22:37] spies8stephanie: you gotta get out of that hospital more
[22:37] spies8mary: I am so exhausted.
[22:37] spies8mary: I just read the exile transcript.
[22:38] spies8mary: What an amazing night. What happened?
[22:38] spies8stephanie: we caught a spy?
[22:38] spies8mary: Yes.
[22:38] spies8mary: But what happened?
[22:38] spies8stephanie: chance and i talked this morning
[22:39] spies8stephanie: and decided that that the rondak exile did not look that good to us
[22:39] spies8stephanie: chance wanted to go kiara
[22:39] spies8mary: It definitely doesn't look good now.
[22:39] spies8stephanie: but larry was easier
[22:40] spies8stephanie: cause owen and rondak were already on it
[22:40] spies8stephanie: and we kept looking for you
[22:40] spies8stephanie: but finally convinced hambone
[22:41] spies8mary: I think this makes Rondak look very Citizen.
[22:41] spies8stephanie: i think so too, but keeping him in the back pocket
[22:42] spies8mary: Who raised Lawrence first, you or Owen?
[22:42] spies8mary: I know he listed Lawrence as one of his spy list.
[22:42] spies8stephanie: well i was voting him back in ep 3
[22:42] spies8mary: Lawrence, Kiara, Dane, Rondak I think.
[22:42] spies8mary: No, I mean today.
[22:43] spies8stephanie: owen was voting him first
[22:44] spies8mary: I'm trying to track the movement of votes.
[22:44] spies8mary: So it was Chance and you and Owen
[22:44] spies8stephanie: owen was always on owen
[22:44] spies8mary: And then Rondak
[22:44] spies8mary: And then Hambone?
[22:44] spies8stephanie: on larry?
[22:44] spies8mary: In that order?
[22:45] spies8mary: Yes.
[22:45] spies8stephanie: owen was always on larry, i had said early on that i liked the case
[22:45] spies8stephanie: chance was off rondak this morning
[22:46] spies8stephanie: hambone we didn't convince until this evening
[22:46] spies8stephanie: rondak was already voting larry before any of us talked to him
[22:46] spies8stephanie: as a self-def vote
[22:47] spies8mary: Did you try to convince either Dane or Kiara?
[22:47] spies8stephanie: no
[22:47] spies8stephanie: and didn't tell them
[22:47] spies8mary: And how did you convince Hambone?
[22:47] spies8stephanie: i think we might have promised to vote rondak next, if larry was cit
[22:47] spies8mary: I'm not sure I would have swung to Lawrence from Rondak without some good evidence.
[22:48] spies8stephanie: i am sure thinking that dane/kiara are the two left
[22:48] spies8mary: Did you give Hambone evidence? What made the Rondak wagon look stinky?
[22:48] spies8stephanie: they have been voting for rondak as a block
[22:49] spies8stephanie: they both voted him in ep 6, during the mags exile
[22:49] spies8mary: It bothered me today that Jasmine was so adamant about him with no evidence, but that could just be her.
[22:49] spies8stephanie: they both voted him last ep
[22:49] spies8stephanie: and they both voted him tonight
[22:49] spies8mary: Who spotted that evidence?
[22:49] spies8mary: I never noticed that.
[22:50] spies8stephanie: not sure, might have been me this morning
[22:50] spies8stephanie: tho owen had a list of votes the other day and not sure if we talked about it then or not
[22:51] spies8mary: Is that what swung Hambone?
[22:51] spies8stephanie: idk exactly
[22:51] spies8mary: Who worked on him?
[22:51] spies8stephanie: owen and i were both talking to him, but i think it was chance that finally swung him
[22:51] spies8mary: All of you or just a few?
[22:51] spies8stephanie: all of us
[22:51] spies8mary: Ok.
[22:52] spies8mary: His switch looks pretty good for him.
[22:52] spies8stephanie: yeah
[22:52] spies8mary: Depending on how it went down.
[22:54] spies8mary: Were you nervous?
[22:54] spies8stephanie: YES
[22:54] spies8mary: My god I was nervous reading that chat log.
[22:54] spies8mary: CRIMINAL.
[22:54] spies8stephanie: ate a pint of strawberries and then switched to my fingernails
[22:55] spies8mary: Afterwards, it looks like Kiara said it might be busing.
[22:56] spies8stephanie: i'm still not sure what to make of kiara and jasmine in the aftermath
[22:56] spies8stephanie: (10:36:58 PM) spies8jasmine: i think u all need to make it seem like
(10:37:02 PM) spies8jasmine: your idea to lynch lawrence
(10:37:04 PM) spies8jasmine: was b/c of me
(10:37:07 PM) spies8jasmine: maybe they will imprison my ass

[22:56] spies8stephanie: could that be a spy trying to look good?
[22:57] spies8mary: She really bothered me today.
[22:57] spies8stephanie: there's no way the spies are ever going to imprison her
[22:57] spies8mary: She was irrationally certain on Rondak.
[22:57] spies8mary: It almost made me think about switching off.
[22:57] spies8stephanie: and a spy would be certain
[22:58] spies8mary: But I'm still not really thinking she's a Spy.
[22:58] spies8stephanie: she's my 3rd choice
[22:58] spies8mary: That definitely gave me the creeps about Rondak though. But his play was so scummy..
[22:58] spies8stephanie: kiara, dane, jasmine
[22:58] spies8stephanie: or dane, kiara, jasmine
[22:58] spies8mary: Hmm.
[22:59] spies8stephanie: did i tell you about imprisonment monday night?
[22:59] spies8mary: I'm thinking about the Lawrence flip.
[22:59] spies8stephanie: and how kiara, larry, and dane were all online for "hours" according to owen
[22:59] spies8mary: And who was skeptical of him early.
[22:59] spies8mary: Hmm?
[23:00] spies8stephanie: and then all left with about 1/2 hour to go
[23:00] spies8mary: I am scatterbrained today. You might have told me that, I forget.
[23:01] spies8stephanie: it sure looked like 3 spies plotting and then they left cause they already knew what was going to happen
[23:01] spies8mary: Did you talk to any of them?
[23:01] spies8stephanie: might have said hello to dane before he left -- can't remember
[23:04] spies8stephanie: nope i didn't
[23:05] spies8mary: I'm going to make some dinner. It's so late.
[23:05] spies8mary: If you're around tonight I'll check back in later.
[23:06] spies8stephanie: no i'm about to give up, but we'll see
[23:06] spies8stephanie: i got a little keyed up
[23:06] spies8stephanie: may not be able to sleep
[23:06] spies8mary: Yes.
[23:06] spies8mary: I want to go back and read all the old chats.

[Mary]

[13:35] spies8mary: Hi.
[13:36] spies8dane: hey
[13:36] spies8mary: Do you strongly believe Rondak is a Spy?
[13:37] spies8dane: I'm definitely less certain
[13:37] spies8dane: but my gut still says it is probably him and kiara
[13:37] spies8dane: not him and
[13:37] spies8dane: him or
[13:37] spies8mary: How did the last two exiles affect your opinion of him?
[13:38] spies8dane: cinnamyn exile i figured it was between two spies
[13:38] spies8dane: as for the lawrence exile...
[13:39] spies8dane: its possible one or both spies were forced by prior statements to follow chance or stay put
[13:39] spies8mary: That's what I thought too about Cinnamyn. She seemed to make up suspicions of him at the last minute and vice-versa.
[13:39] spies8dane: yup
[13:39] spies8dane: btw, you know we are the two major candidates after kiara, right?
[13:40] spies8mary: But now that we know Lawrence and Cinnamyn were both Spies, it seems less likely that the top three candidates for exile were all Spies, yes?
[13:40] spies8dane: less likely, but if the spies didn't know the lawrence wagon was coming...
[13:40] spies8mary: You would think that the Spies would have tried to get at least one Citizen exiled.
[13:40] spies8mary: That's true.
[13:40] spies8mary: I heard Owen and Stephanie led the exile of Lawrence. Is that true?
[13:41] spies8mary: And Chance helped?
[13:41] spies8dane: chance led the exile i believe
[13:41] spies8dane: owen was already on him
[13:41] spies8mary: I think Steph told me she and Owen had suspicions before Chance but I'm not certain.
[13:41] spies8dane: i'm not really sure how it happened
[13:41] spies8mary: So Rondak obviously switched to save himself.
[13:41] spies8mary: Why did Hambone switch?
[13:42] spies8dane: I heard he was strong armed into it
[13:42] spies8dane: but he had already been saying that he thought a rondak lynch would be too easy
[13:42] spies8mary: Yes.
[13:42] spies8mary: I was suspicious of him for that.
[13:42] spies8mary: Now, a lot less so.
[13:43] spies8mary: From my perspective right now, Owen looks very Citizen.
[13:43] spies8dane: hey, I gotta head out
[13:43] spies8mary: Ok.
[13:43] spies8dane: sorry to cut you short
[13:43] spies8mary: I'll talk to you later.
[13:43] spies8dane: ttyl
[13:43] spies8mary: Have a good Saturday.

[Mary]

[16:37] spies8hambone: yo
[16:38] spies8mary: Hi.
[16:38] spies8hambone: so did u read over the thing i posted
[16:38] spies8mary: It's nice to see you. It's been a while.
[16:38] spies8hambone: yeah
[16:38] spies8hambone: ive been wanting to talk with you for a while now, love
[16:38] spies8mary: I am reading the forum right now. Is it in there?
[16:38] spies8mary: Don't "love" me if you're just going to turn around and bus me, Hambone.
[16:38] spies8hambone: :-)
[16:38] spies8mary: Love is forever.
[16:38] spies8hambone: excuse me
[16:38] spies8hambone: how many spies have u bussed
[16:38] spies8hambone: hm?
[16:39] spies8mary: Let's see.
[16:39] spies8mary: I voted for Chance instead of Cinnamyn.
[16:39] spies8hambone: Magalie!?
[16:40] spies8mary: Did I vote that crazy bitch?
[16:40] spies8hambone: Isaac?
[16:40] spies8mary: Maybe I did.
[16:40] spies8hambone: :-)
[16:40] spies8mary: Ok, it's 2-2.
[16:40] spies8hambone: no
[16:40] spies8hambone: u voted for magalie twice
[16:40] spies8hambone: and lawrence once
[16:40] spies8mary: You still owe me a song. You've been lazy.
[16:40] spies8hambone: its 2-3
[16:40] spies8hambone: my final cut pro is NOW working again
[16:41] spies8mary: And you can't bus someone twice.
[16:41] spies8hambone: i installed a new version yesterday
[16:41] spies8hambone: and yes you can!
[16:41] spies8mary: If they don't get hit in the face it's not a bus.
[16:41] spies8hambone: im my world u can sister
[16:41] spies8hambone: no
[16:41] spies8hambone: u bussed u little mrs. busser
[16:41] spies8hambone: we cant lose each other though
[16:41] spies8mary: I also voted for Jasmine instead of you.
[16:41] spies8mary: That made me feel good.
[16:41] spies8hambone: huh
[16:41] spies8hambone: when was this
[16:41] spies8mary: To get her vote back.
[16:41] spies8hambone: oh
[16:41] spies8hambone: yeah
[16:41] spies8hambone: u made me cry
[16:41] spies8hambone: all 3 of u guys did
[16:42] spies8mary: I knew you were going to win.
[16:42] spies8mary: Everyone hates her.
[16:42] spies8mary: If she is Cassidy I will laugh.
[16:42] spies8hambone: haha
[16:42] spies8hambone: the only reason u know who i am
[16:42] spies8hambone: is cuz i was dumb
[16:42] spies8hambone: and forgot to set something to private
[16:42] spies8hambone: on my damn youtube account
[16:42] spies8mary: You have no idea who I am, do you?
[16:42] spies8hambone: no idea
[16:43] spies8hambone: i knew who lawrence was
[16:43] spies8hambone: he thought it was me who accused him lol
[16:43] spies8mary: That's almost funny.
[16:43] spies8hambone: i told him i was harold
[16:43] spies8hambone: lol
[16:43] spies8mary: That's hilarious.
[16:43] spies8mary: I know about Harold.
[16:43] spies8mary: He looked like a total tool.
[16:43] spies8hambone: are u HIM!?
[16:44] spies8mary: Do I sound like someone you know?
[16:44] spies8hambone: im assuming u know who i am
[16:44] spies8hambone: since u know who i am!
[16:44] spies8hambone: wait
[16:44] spies8hambone: im assuming i know who you are
[16:44] spies8hambone: since u know who i am!
[16:44] spies8mary: You're probably wrong.
[16:44] spies8hambone: so i dont know you?
[16:44] spies8mary: You're famous.
[16:44] spies8hambone: well who the eff are ya
[16:44] spies8hambone: im... F-f-f-f-f-f famous
[16:44] spies8mary: There was all sorts of Yurination going on last game.
[16:44] spies8hambone:
[16:44] spies8mary: And you made a video.
[16:45] spies8hambone: yes
[16:45] spies8hambone: ive made 3 songs and 2 video confessionals in this game
[16:45] spies8mary: Your room looked like it was actually in the most miserable corner of Russia.
[16:45] spies8hambone: prolly making a 3rd video confesh tonight
[16:45] spies8hambone: so who are u
[16:45] spies8hambone: i wont post it in my confessional
[16:45] spies8hambone: lawrence thinks u were Julia
[16:45] spies8hambone: i said no
[16:45] spies8mary: I think you deserve a surprise for after the game.
[16:46] spies8hambone: :-)
[16:46] spies8mary: After we win.
[16:46] spies8hambone: hehehehe
[16:46] spies8hambone: I think CYN was julia
[16:46] spies8hambone: i wish i voted her out!
[16:46] spies8hambone: for that
[16:46] spies8mary: That would be cool.
[16:46] spies8hambone: cinn told me she made only video confessionals
[16:46] spies8hambone: so that was a bingo for me
[16:46] spies8mary: Do we need to do anything much this episode?
[16:46] spies8hambone: what are u gonna do
[16:46] spies8hambone: im going after kiara or dane
[16:46] spies8hambone: idc which
[16:46] spies8hambone: cuz HAMMY says at LEAST one is def. a spy :-D
[16:47] spies8mary: It's tough, because at one point or another I've found them all "somewhat Cit".
[16:47] spies8hambone: mhm
[16:47] spies8mary: But it will have to be one of them.
[16:47] spies8hambone: Jasmine looks bad right now imo
[16:47] spies8mary: Yes.
[16:47] spies8hambone: all that bullshit of her trying to "PROTECT" rondak i found as pure bullshit
[16:47] spies8hambone: she can say whatever she wants
[16:47] spies8hambone: cuz in the end
[16:47] spies8hambone: she doesnt have to vote
[16:47] spies8mary: The odds of me ever busing you are very slim after what you did to Lawrence.
[16:47] spies8mary: You were the swing vote.
[16:47] spies8mary: Why would a Spy do that?
[16:48] spies8mary: Answer: because he's a knucklehead Spy.
[16:48] spies8mary: It was brilliant.
[16:48] spies8hambone: a spy that is still trying to redeem himself for being Yuri!
[16:48] spies8hambone: im still tryin to catch spies here :-D
[16:49] spies8mary: You have played almost a perfect game.
[16:49] spies8mary: There was never really a time when you were in danger.
[16:49] spies8mary: Maybe when Jenny got exiled, but that turned around quickly.
[16:50] spies8hambone: im still yet to be voted for :-D
[16:50] spies8mary: Yes.
[16:50] spies8hambone: hehehehe
[16:50] spies8mary: And no Citizen has voted for me.
[16:50] spies8hambone: thats why i made a huge deal over that self vote
[16:50] spies8hambone: lol
[16:50] spies8hambone: sam gave me a penalty
[16:50] spies8hambone: and i was like
[16:50] spies8hambone: 0_0
[16:50] spies8hambone: WHAT
[16:50] spies8hambone: THE
[16:50] spies8hambone: FUCKKKK
[16:50] spies8mary: I really really hope we are both alive to the end.
[16:51] spies8mary: It will be a lot more fun that way at the finale.
[16:51] spies8hambone: :-)
[16:51] spies8hambone: we make a good team me thinks
[16:51] spies8hambone: RIGHT anton?
[16:51] spies8mary: And we will get to mess around with the last two Citizens even though they don't know they're screwed.
[16:51] spies8hambone: oh ya!
[16:51] spies8hambone: heheheh
[16:51] spies8mary: At final 4.
[16:51] spies8hambone: cuz u have the tiebreaker
[16:51] spies8mary: You think?
[16:51] spies8mary: That would be nice.
[16:51] spies8hambone: huh
[16:52] spies8mary: Plus, Jasmine doesn't have a vote.
[16:52] spies8hambone: ok
[16:52] spies8hambone: lets make sure
[16:52] spies8hambone: lets see here is the ppl still alive:
[16:52] spies8mary: There are 8 now.
[16:52] spies8hambone: Chance, Steph, Me, You, Dane, Kiara, Rondak, Jasmine
[16:52] spies8hambone: yes, 8
[16:52] spies8hambone: me exile KIARA
[16:52] spies8hambone: imprison CHANCE
[16:52] spies8hambone: then we've got 6
[16:52] spies8mary: Yes.
[16:52] spies8hambone: me and steph can hit up dane
[16:53] spies8hambone: rondak or you joins us
[16:53] spies8hambone: game over
[16:53] spies8hambone: u can even fake ur vote
[16:53] spies8mary: Yes.
[16:53] spies8hambone: just dont make too good of a case
[16:53] spies8hambone: especially if u say ur voitn for me
[16:53] spies8mary: Right.
[16:53] spies8mary: As for Kiara.
[16:53] spies8mary: We don't want a last-minute flip.
[16:53] spies8mary: Like on Lawrence.
[16:53] spies8hambone: i dont think thats possible
[16:54] spies8mary: Are people solid on her?
[16:54] spies8hambone: no
[16:54] spies8hambone: but shes the best shot we've got
[16:54] spies8hambone: she was pissed at lawrence's blindside
[16:54] spies8mary: Yes.
[16:54] spies8hambone: so was dane
[16:54] spies8hambone: he left the chat
[16:54] spies8mary: Chance thinks she's a Spy. I think Steph does too.
[16:54] spies8hambone: and even today, when dane was trying to see why chance is "cleared"
[16:54] spies8hambone: dane got pissy
[16:54] spies8hambone: and just left the cvhat
[16:54] spies8hambone: chat*
[16:54] spies8mary: You and I should probably split our votes.
[16:54] spies8mary: Not intentionally
[16:54] spies8mary: But if possible.
[16:55] spies8mary: One on Dane one on Kiara.
[16:55] spies8hambone: mhm
[16:55] spies8mary: I am going to try to keep mine up in the air as long as possible.
[16:55] spies8hambone: i feel like its SO obvious
[16:55] spies8hambone: that im a spy
[16:55] spies8mary: Not anymore.
[16:55] spies8mary: I will be able to defend you based on the Lawrence exile.
[16:56] spies8hambone: ok
[16:56] spies8hambone: do u still have some say in things?
[16:56] spies8mary: Without really getting in trouble because it's true.
[16:56] spies8hambone: ok
[16:56] spies8mary: Do people trust me?
[16:56] spies8mary: Not totally.
[16:56] spies8mary: Steph and Chance at one point said I was their top Cit read.
[16:56] spies8mary: So I'm ok.
[16:56] spies8hambone: ok good
[16:58] spies8mary: But if a wagon on Kiara looks too big it might make them worry.
[16:58] spies8mary: So I will probably lean Dane but keep investigating Kiara.
[16:58] spies8mary: Time for a quick Citizen chat.
[16:59] spies8mary: What do you think of Dane?
[17:00] spies8hambone: dane is a fucking annoying weasel spy shit
[17:00] spies8hambone: ive been saying all game that his character is perfect to hide behind
[17:00] spies8mary: Ok.
[17:01] spies8mary: Do you have any better argument than that?
[17:01] spies8hambone: him being jenny's best friend makes total sense
[17:01] spies8hambone: he was bein all buddy buddy with her
[17:01] spies8hambone: so after she got exiled he could go
[17:01] spies8hambone: SEEE
[17:01] spies8mary: Do you think he's voted like a Spy?
[17:01] spies8hambone: i think hes voting like a douchebag would vote, rly
[17:01] spies8hambone: and he can get away with it
[17:02] spies8hambone: and now just recently with the lawrence blindside
[17:02] spies8hambone: he was so taken away he quit the chat
[17:02] spies8mary: Ok.
[17:02] spies8hambone: to me that right there was basically an admission
[17:02] spies8mary: Ok.
[17:02] spies8hambone: Ok.
[17:02] spies8hambone: Ok.
[17:02] spies8mary: I have to go buy some fabric before the store closes.
[17:02] spies8mary: But I will be back.
[17:02] spies8mary: Ok.
[17:02] spies8hambone: are u gonna smother me in ur fabrics
[17:02] spies8hambone: when im asleep
[17:02] spies8mary: No.
[17:02] spies8hambone: dam :-(
[17:02] spies8mary: I'm going to make a dress.
[17:02] spies8hambone: mary....
[17:02] spies8mary: To wear to the finale.
[17:02] spies8hambone: i wanna be the last spy alive
[17:03] spies8mary: Do you want me to make you anything?
[17:03] spies8hambone: lol
[17:03] spies8hambone: yes
[17:03] spies8mary: A tuxedo?
[17:03] spies8mary: A track suit?
[17:03] spies8hambone: Ooooo
[17:03] spies8hambone: hmmmm ok this is what i want
[17:03] spies8hambone: a want to wear a chicken costume
[17:03] spies8mary: Ok.
[17:03] spies8hambone: but
[17:03] spies8hambone: its also a tux
[17:03] spies8mary: I will get lots of yellow feather boas.
[17:03] spies8hambone: a Chicken Costume Tux
[17:03] spies8mary: And sew them on to a yellow tux.
[17:04] spies8hambone: and i want a fake beard
[17:04] spies8hambone: made of ur hair
[17:04] spies8mary: You may have to supply the chicken head.
[17:04] spies8hambone: ok
[17:04] spies8mary: It's not really my thing.
[17:04] spies8hambone: *kills chicken*
[17:04] spies8hambone: Here!
[17:04] spies8mary: Perfect.
[17:04] spies8hambone: :-D
[17:04] spies8hambone: UH OH
[17:04] spies8mary: About the right size.
[17:04] spies8hambone: i might kill u too
[17:04] spies8hambone: *hold knife to marys head*
[17:04] spies8mary: Bad idea.
[17:04] spies8hambone: i wanna be the last spy alive 0_0
[17:04] spies8mary: Never bring a knife to an icepick fight.
[17:04] spies8mary: Bye.
[17:04] spies8hambone: :-D
[17:04] spies8mary: I'll be back shortly.
[17:04] spies8hambone: i have a new song
[17:04] spies8hambone: uploading
[17:04] spies8mary: Oh good.
[17:04] spies8mary: Link it.
[17:05] spies8hambone: message me when ur back sista
[17:05] spies8mary: Ok.
[17:05] spies8mary: Ok.
[17:05] spies8hambone: Ok.

[Mary]

[12:54] spies8chance: hey mary.
[12:56] spies8mary: Hi.
[12:57] spies8chance: how're you? also my font keeps resetting.
[12:57] spies8mary: I'm good. And your font is fine.
[12:57] spies8mary: I just got done working an hour or two ago and I'm exhausted.
[12:57] spies8chance: there we go. let's see if it stays.
[12:57] spies8chance: yeah i just got home myself.
[12:58] spies8mary: Kiara, Dane and I were reviewing old group chats and votes.
[12:58] spies8chance: and?
[12:58] spies8mary: It seems they want Stephanie exiled.
[12:58] spies8mary: Or at least Kiara does.
[12:59] spies8chance: of course she does.
[12:59] spies8chance: nevermind the fact that stephanie was one of the instigators of the lawrence exile.
[12:59] spies8mary: Dane seems to be wavering between her and Rondak, but is looking at Hambone as well.
[12:59] spies8mary: That's what I asked her.
[13:00] spies8mary: She said it was more you and Owen?
[13:00] spies8chance: it was all three of us.
[13:00] spies8chance: stephanie talked to rondak, and owen and i talked to hambone.
[13:00] spies8mary: I went back and looked at exile 3 and 4.
[13:01] spies8chance: those were the first two after the merge, right?
[13:01] spies8mary: Isaac made a big post complaining that the Republicans were only attacking Democrats. Remember?
[13:01] spies8chance: yes.
[13:01] spies8mary: He wasn't being attacked, so it was weird.
[13:01] spies8mary: You know who was being attacked?
[13:02] spies8mary: Jasmine and Lawrence.
[13:03] spies8mary: Then, exile 4, Lawrence got upset at Stephanie for going after the people she thought bused Alexei.
[13:03] spies8mary: He said it was stupid to go after busers.
[13:03] spies8mary: I think that's probably a pretty good indication that a Spy was on the bus, don't you think?
[13:04] spies8chance: clarification - you think a spy bussed alexei?
[13:05] spies8mary: I think it makes sense given that evidence, plus
[13:05] spies8mary: My readings of those group chats have always made me think the voting wasn't entirely sincere.
[13:05] spies8chance: i remember the thread you put up about it.
[13:05] spies8mary: Hambone switched his vote immediately after Nita nad Tina showed him the case.
[13:06] spies8mary: Dane and him got in a fight and kind of distracted everyone from the issue and then talked about Themba.
[13:06] spies8mary: Then later, Dane fought with Steph and called her a liar.
[13:06] spies8mary: But voted Alexei instead of Steph.
[13:07] spies8mary: And later, Rondak voted, but I'm not really thinking he's a Spy anymore.
[13:07] spies8chance: dane and stephanie have fought all game long.
[13:07] spies8chance: i agree, but why did you vote him last round?
[13:07] spies8mary: Because the interactions between him and Cinnamyn looked fake.
[13:07] spies8mary: She suddenly brought him up as her "#1 suspect all game"
[13:08] spies8mary: Even though she hadn't mentioned him for weeks.
[13:08] spies8mary: And he wasn't interested in voting her until I mentioned her, and then he moved her to the top of his suspect list.
[13:08] spies8mary: But at this point, I don't think he's a Spy.
[13:09] spies8chance: i don't either. i think that was cinnamyn trying to save herself, and rondak's general bandwagoning.
[13:09] spies8mary: Mostly because I don't see why the Spies would allow all three suspects in episode 9 and 10 to be Spies.
[13:09] spies8chance: plus he's been the alternate to two spies in a row.
[13:09] spies8mary: Don't you agree?
[13:09] spies8chance: i do.
[13:09] spies8chance: something bothers me about the lawrence exile, though -
[13:10] spies8chance: how likely is it that all three spies would have voted rondak last round? it looks like what happened, given how scummy kiara and dane look now, but i'm not certain it's likely.
[13:10] spies8chance: owen trusted stephanie completely.
[13:10] spies8chance: i don't see him being imprisoned by her, given that she was his highest cit read besides me.
[13:10] spies8chance: if stephanie's a spy she could have ridden owen to the end of the game.
[13:11] spies8mary: Ok.
[13:11] spies8mary: I agree, it's unlikely that Steph's a spy.
[13:12] spies8mary: Kiara, Dane, Mary, Lawrence voted Rondak?
[13:12] spies8chance: yes.
[13:12] spies8chance: lawrence flipped spy.
[13:12] spies8mary: In a close exile, near endgame, I can see taking a risk like that.
[13:12] spies8chance: kiara and dane have been on rondak over a spy twice in a row.
[13:12] spies8mary: Yes.
[13:13] spies8chance: i do have a meta-reason for being bothered by that exile, though.
[13:13] spies8mary: Right now, the Spies need to exile how many of us to win?
[13:13] spies8chance: apparently owen was the one who accused lawrence correctly two episodes ago.
[13:13] spies8mary: Ok.
[13:13] spies8chance: and apparently lawrence was confidentialanon.
[13:13] spies8mary: Who's that?
[13:13] spies8chance: who came in later and said 'dang, but good job with the blindside'
[13:14] spies8chance: so for him to actually come on on his real aim and confirm that it was a blindside?
[13:14] spies8chance: i dunno. he could be clearing a spy partner that voted him.
[13:14] spies8chance: but again, that's entirely meta and wifom.
[13:14] spies8mary: Owen, Chance, Steph, Rondak, Hambone
[13:14] spies8mary: In that order.
[13:14] spies8chance: owen thought it could point at hambone.
[13:15] spies8mary: If Hambone's a Spy, he made a really weird play.
[13:15] spies8mary: Unless Rondak is also a Spy.
[13:15] spies8chance: i agree. i've basically controlled hambone's vote the past two rounds.
[13:15] spies8mary: If Rondak is a Spy then those two together make sense.
[13:15] spies8mary: Otherwise, not so much.
[13:16] spies8chance: i don't think hambone/rondak is a scumpair. i think it's very likely that at least one of kiara/dane is.
[13:16] spies8chance: i also didn't like how jasmine tried to take credit for the lawrence exile, when she had next to nothing to do with it.
[13:17] spies8mary: Jasmine had me wondering all the day of Lawrence's exile.
[13:18] spies8mary: She was way too positive about Rondak, with no evidence.
[13:18] spies8chance: did she talk to you at all about changing to lawrence?
[13:18] spies8chance: ....oh really?
[13:18] spies8mary: And it was a very late defense of him.
[13:18] spies8chance: because as soon as i got online before exile she was pushing me to change my vote to lawrence.
[13:18] spies8mary: As if she knew Rondak was getting exiled and she wanted to look good afterwards.
[13:18] spies8chance: so she pushed rondak to you, and lawrence to me?
[13:18] spies8mary: No.
[13:18] spies8mary: She was incredibly adamant about not exiling Rondak.
[13:19] spies8chance: oh.
[13:19] spies8mary: Which I couldn't understand, because there was no evidence.
[13:19] spies8chance: i read 'positive about rondak' as that she wanted you to lynch him.
[13:19] spies8mary: And my case on him was, I thought, good at the time.
[13:19] spies8mary: She totally ignored it and just said "don't vote him".
[13:20] spies8mary: Which I don't see someone doing unless they're positive about their alignment.
[13:20] spies8mary: Like Cory and Owen were about you when I made a case.
[13:20] spies8chance: i haven't forgotten her early actions, either, and i do think jasmine needs to be exiled eventually.
[13:20] spies8mary: Not now though.
[13:20] spies8chance: yes.
[13:21] spies8mary: I don't think it makes sense.
[13:21] spies8chance: i was just going to say 'not now'.
[13:21] spies8mary: Do you think Kiara is making any good points in her posts?
[13:22] spies8mary: This is not a good argument:
[13:22] spies8mary: "i think the savannah wagon ep2 was a great place to wagon for spies. in fact, all of dane, steph, and rondak voted her. everyone else who did not are dead non-spies with the expections of me (and i know im a cit) and hambone (and i think hes a cit)"
[13:23] spies8chance: she doesn't even say why she thinks that.
[13:23] spies8chance: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=burg&thread=1679
[13:24] spies8mary: Wow.
[13:24] spies8mary: *drools*
[13:24] spies8chance: thought you'd like it.
[13:24] spies8mary: I'll try it out later if we get a Spy.
[13:24] spies8chance: awesome.
[13:24] spies8mary: What do you think Spy strategy would be at this point in the game?
[13:25] spies8mary: Think like a Spy to catch a Spy.
[13:25] spies8chance: if i was a spy, i'd want to keep my partners alive, but if i saw them going down i'd be the first one to hammer them.
[13:25] spies8mary: Obviously, the strategy would be a lot different for Jasmine, who doesn't have a vote and is unlikely to be voted.
[13:25] spies8chance: i've won mafia games as lone scum before.
[13:26] spies8mary: I think Jasmine can say anything she wants right now and get away with it.
[13:26] spies8chance: which is why i'm leery about the lawrence exile.
[13:26] spies8chance: that's true.
[13:26] spies8mary: She has sad that me, Hambone, Dane, Kiara, and Stephanie are Spies in the past several days.
[13:26] spies8chance: now she's positive that kiara's a cit.
[13:26] spies8mary: One moment, phone.
[13:26] spies8chance: if we exile kiara and she isn't a spy, i think we should exile jasmine. we're going to have to at some point anyway.
[13:27] spies8chance: i need to shower, mary, but i'll be back in a half hour or so.
[13:31] spies8mary: Ok.
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[13:50] spies8chance: back.
[13:52] spies8mary: Hi.
[13:52] spies8mary: Do Kiara and Jasmine make sense together as Spies?
[13:53] spies8chance: hymm.
[13:53] spies8chance: at this second, with jasmine rabidly defending kiara, they could be a scumteam.
[13:53] spies8mary: Has Jasmine explained why she's defending Kiara?
[13:53] spies8chance: nope, she's just endorsed the stephanie case.
[13:54] spies8mary: I think she's behaving like she did on Rondak.
[13:54] spies8chance: i do too.
[13:54] spies8chance: did she ever answer you definitively?
[13:54] spies8mary: Phone.
[14:06] spies8mary: Back.
[14:06] spies8mary: And I haven't been able to ask Jasmine about her Rondak or Kiara opinions.
[14:07] spies8mary: It seems unusual that a Spy would so aggressively defend another Spy this late in the game, don't you think?
[14:07] spies8chance: not if that spy was voteless.
[14:07] spies8mary: True.
[14:07] spies8mary: That changes her accountability.
[14:07] spies8chance: yes, it does.
[14:08] spies8mary: What do you think of Dane?
[14:08] spies8chance: i think he looks scummy for one of the same reasons kiara does.
[14:08] spies8mary: Who has he spoken to you about exiling?
[14:10] spies8chance: dane hasn't spoken to me.
[14:11] spies8mary: He voted Alexei, then went after Savannah, Steph and Themba.
[14:11] spies8mary: I don't remember reading about him playing a major role in those exiles. Do you?
[14:12] spies8chance: i don't think he's played a major role in any exile to date.
[14:12] spies8mary: Then nominated Rondak, Zed and Lawrence
[14:12] spies8mary: And voted Jenny.
[14:12] spies8mary: When he nominated Zed, he didn't particularly suspect him.
[14:13] spies8mary: He said he was just doing it to give Owen options.
[14:13] spies8chance: mm.
[14:13] spies8chance: i'm getting kiara riled up.
[14:14] spies8chance: i hope she's not just a scummy, frustrated cit.
[14:14] spies8chance: do you remember the points i made against kiara about her defending rondak?
[14:15] spies8mary: You said she switched from defending him to voting him rather quickly.
[14:15] spies8chance: kiara keeps insisting she didn't defend him. i think she did and posted chat snippets where i thought she was.
[14:17] spies8mary: spies8chance (5:53:32 PM): i call bullshit. he's just trying to get /someone/ lynched.
spies8kiara (5:53:53 PM): but if thats the case, why imprison the one person pushing hardest on the target?
[14:17] spies8mary: What was she talking about there?
[14:17] spies8chance: broderick's imprisonment.
[14:19] spies8mary: "Why would Rondak imprison Brod if he was just going to bus Cinnamyn anyway."
[14:19] spies8mary: spies8chance (5:56:45 PM): regardless of that, rondak's pushing her is bullshit.
spies8kiara (5:57:08 PM): id go as far as suspect
spies8chance (5:57:35 PM): i thought you said he was your #2?
[14:20] spies8mary: So there, she's saying Rondak is suspect for pushing a Cinn exile?
[14:20] spies8chance: yes.
[14:25] spies8mary: Remember Cinnamyn pushing the idea that it was more likely the Spies were in the "roleholders" group?
[14:25] spies8chance: yes.
[14:25] spies8mary: Since then, both Spies have been outside that group.
[14:26] spies8mary: She said this about Kiara, on that tangent.
[14:26] spies8mary: spies8cinnamyn 11:26 pm
and mary i suspect kiara still 4 her earlier ackshinz and y i voted her (prevoting allan, believing tina even tho she suspected her) combined with how she claimed her role and how quickly the rolegroup believed it
makes me think it wuz an inside job
and kiara iz paired with sum1 else in there
[14:27] spies8chance: yeah, i never liked that point in particular.
[14:27] spies8chance: but i'm not willing to vote stephanie this round.
[14:27] spies8mary: She seemed to push Kiara that entire exile, but didn't really have reasons or know who Kiara suspected.
[14:28] spies8mary: spies8cinnamyn 11:27 pm
and she haz not dun 1 thing that has made me think cit about her
spies8mary 11:27 pm
Who are Kiara's suspects?
spies8cinnamyn 11:27 pm
gud queschin
[14:28] spies8mary: spies8mary 11:33 pm
So you think Owen knew Kiara's claim was coming?
spies8cinnamyn 11:33 pm
very likely
[14:29] spies8mary: spies8mary 11:36 pm
Ok.
That's a plus.
Cinnamyn, what do you think of Dane?
You mentioned you don't know much?
spies8cinnamyn 11:37 pm
i dont think n e thing of him
[14:29] spies8mary: That one is really weird.
[14:30] spies8mary: To have no opinion on someone after over a month.
[14:30] spies8chance: owen has since flipped cit, so... hm.
[14:43] spies8chance: i would be okay with a dane lynch this time around, and i'm honestly having second thoughts about kiara.
[14:43] spies8chance: my concern is that hambone has voted kiara and is now gone.
[14:43] spies8mary: Cinnamyn attacked Kiara.
[14:43] spies8mary: But not strongly.
[14:44] spies8chance: could have been distancing.
[14:44] spies8mary: That's what I'm trying to figure out.
[14:44] spies8mary: She seems to have dropped Kiara as a suspect right after that exile.
[14:44] spies8mary: I need to find her talking about Lawrence.
[14:44] spies8mary: To see if she talked the same way she did about Dane.
[14:45] spies8chance: spies8kiara 4:44 pm
right now, in my mind, steph and dane are likely the last pair because of the repeated crossvoting with eachother and lawrence. i targeted steph because i have more on her than him
[14:45] spies8mary: That's pretty weak evidence.
[14:45] spies8chance: i agree.
[14:45] spies8chance: bah, font.
[14:45] spies8mary: And why target Steph instead of Dane?
[14:45] spies8chance: she had more on her than him?
[14:46] spies8mary: Steph has a few things that make her look fairly Cit.
[14:46] spies8mary: Dane does not.
[14:46] spies8chance: i agree.
[14:46] spies8mary: If you had to pick something pro-Cit Dane has done this game, what would it be?
[14:46] spies8mary: Cory says hi, by the way.
[14:47] spies8chance: i honestly can't think anything off the top of my head except for the alexei exile, which doesn't actually - he does? where?!
[14:47] spies8mary: Would you like me to send a message?
[14:47] spies8chance: tell him i'm avenging him like i said i would, and to keep the bed warm because i'll see him soon.
[14:48] spies8mary: I think he's all choked up.
[14:49] spies8chance: knowing cory, it's probably nervous laughter.
[14:49] spies8mary: He doesn't know how to let his true self out.
[14:49] spies8mary: I suggested I try using the icepick.
[14:49] spies8chance: which is why he needs me.
[14:49] spies8mary: But he said he's afraid of blood.
[14:49] spies8chance: no, don't do that. i'd like my cory in one piece, please. :-(
[14:50] spies8chance: however, dane you can icepick to your heart's content.
[14:50] spies8mary: It just makes small, indetectable holes.
[14:50] spies8chance: you can use the shiny new one i got you.
[14:50] spies8mary: Ok, so we really need to figure this one out.
[14:50] spies8mary: I think the Spies are in Dane, Kiara, Hambone, Jasmine.
[14:50] spies8chance: well, i'd be okay with dane. however, i don't think a dane lynch will tell us anything about kiara and we'll be back where we started.
[14:50] spies8mary: I don't think Rondak is a Spy. It just doesn't add up.
[14:50] spies8mary: You aren't one.
[14:51] spies8chance: i don't think stephanie is a spy either.
[14:51] spies8chance: and i don't really think you're a spy either.
[14:51] spies8chance: rondak's been up against both cinnamyn and lawrence. i think he's cit.
[14:51] spies8mary: Steph, I feel like she was genuinely after Lawrence.
[14:51] spies8mary: She dropped it for a bit when he was being replaced.
[14:52] spies8chance: according to kiara, stephanie and lawrence crossvoting was all distancing.
[14:52] spies8mary: Do you think Sam would have allowed two Spies to replace in?
[14:52] spies8chance: i think sam would have replaced anyone, spy or cit. i don't think that's much of a tell.
[14:52] spies8mary: Lawrence and Rondak were both given a very long time.
[14:52] spies8chance: kiara is a replacement herself.
[14:53] spies8mary: I think in previous games, Sam just killed inactives off.
[14:53] spies8mary: True.
[14:53] spies8mary: Wow.
[14:53] spies8chance: this is the last season, though, i bet he got lots of applications.
[14:53] spies8mary: Alexei, Isaac, Magalie, Lawrence the inactive.
[14:54] spies8mary: Dane supposedly was bribed by the Spies.
[14:54] spies8mary: To give up his vote. Which episode was that?
[14:55] spies8chance: early on. i think it was three.
[14:56] spies8mary: What was going on then. Why would the Spies do that to one of their own instead of to a Cit?
[14:56] spies8mary: That was the Magalie Themba episode.
[14:56] spies8chance: it was early on, one vote wasn't going to mean a lot.
[14:57] spies8chance: could be a way to make dane look more cit for precisely that reason.
[14:57] spies8chance: sam specifically said spies could bribe themselves.
[14:57] spies8mary: I would assume so.
[15:01] spies8mary: Cory says hi.
[15:01] spies8mary: and "Tell him this shanker will never be within his grasp."
[15:01] spies8chance: how are you talking to him?
[15:01] spies8chance: hahaha, poor guy's in denial.
[15:01] spies8mary: He'll snap out of it.
[15:02] spies8chance: hopefully soon.
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[15:31] spies8chance: mary, who are you voting now?
[15:32] spies8mary: I think Dane is more likely to be a Spy than Kiara.
[15:33] spies8chance: at this point i agree.
[15:33] spies8chance: kiara has things that point to her being a cit and things that point to her being a spy.
[15:33] spies8chance: dane just has things that point to him being a spy.
[15:34] spies8mary: I am still reading about Lawrence's and Cinnamyn's interactions with them.
[15:34] spies8mary: There's not much to find.
[15:34] spies8mary: The main thing to figure out is whether Cinnamyn was busing Kiara or not.
[15:36] spies8chance: how likely was it that kiara was going to go when cinn bussed her?
[15:36] spies8chance: i.e. during the zed exile.
[15:37] spies8mary: Fairly certain. I think.
[15:38] spies8mary: It looks like Dane and Lawrence voted each other immediately after Lawrence replaced in.
[15:40] spies8chance: talking to dane and rondak.
[15:40] spies8chance: rondak's voting stephanie for the banter between her and lawrence, which is retarded.
[15:40] spies8chance: dane is apparently voting rondak.
[15:40] spies8mary: SENATE: Owen, Mary, Cinnamyn, Cory, Claude, Stephanie, Gertrude
[15:41] spies8mary: I think Owen and Cory were pretty firm on Kiara due to the Zed-Isaac thing.
[15:41] spies8mary: Stephanie was only anti-Zed.
[15:41] spies8mary: But voted Kiara.
[15:41] spies8mary: I think Claude voted you or Kiara.
[15:42] spies8chance: me, i'm pretty sure.
[15:42] spies8mary: So I think Cinnamyn saw a 4-1-1 vote or something like that.
[15:42] spies8mary: And chose accordingly.
[15:44] spies8mary: in order of scumminess, imma say 1. kiara 2. claude 3. mary 4. owen
[15:46] spies8mary: Interestingly
[15:46] spies8chance: well, talking to dane has accomplished nothing other than to cement the fact that he's an antagonistic retard in my mind.
[15:46] spies8chance: heh.
[15:46] spies8mary: When Cinnamyn made that weird post about Claude
[15:46] spies8mary: Right after Claude helped exile Isaac
[15:47] spies8mary: She added this about Kiara
[15:47] spies8mary: kiara expressed a dissenting opinion against u, n' lo n' behold now she iz 1 of ur suspects.
[15:47] spies8chance: which defends kiara.
[15:47] spies8mary: Kind of attacking Claude for suspecting Kiara
[15:47] spies8mary: Yes.
[15:47] spies8chance: tangent - i wonder why claude was imprisoned?
[15:48] spies8chance: the broderick imprisonment pointed right to cinnamyn. i wonder if his imprisonment points to someone?
[15:48] spies8chance: i'd really like to exile dane at the moment.
[15:48] spies8mary: Oh weird.
[15:48] spies8mary: Remember when she attacked you for attacking Awohali?
[15:48] spies8chance: cinnamyn or kiara?
[15:48] spies8mary: Cinnamyn
[15:49] spies8mary: She attacked you but not Dane.
[15:49] spies8mary: "i found ur jumping on awohali in las' nites chat 2 b an obvious attempt 4 u 2 deflect attenshin off of urself. 4 completeness' sake, herez da porshin im talkin' bout"
[15:49] spies8mary: I thought it was mostly Dane.
[15:49] spies8chance: hindsight - cinnamyn's 180 on awohali should have been a sign.
[15:50] spies8mary: I had a mild Cit read on Kiara for a while.
[15:50] spies8mary: For the way she was asking questions around the time of the Jenny exile.
[15:50] spies8mary: Sorry, the Zed exile.
[15:51] spies8mary: Her claim really didn't do much for me.
[15:51] spies8chance: in hindsight, i think the whole rolegroup saving kiara business was 'omg save the roleeee'
[15:51] spies8chance: which could have been a mistake.
[15:52] spies8mary: Yes.
[15:52] spies8chance: but i'm more confident on dane at this point than kiara.
[15:52] spies8mary: It's possible Kiara and Dane are both Spies.
[15:52] spies8mary: I think it's more likely that Dane and Jasmine are Spies.
[15:52] spies8mary: Which one fits better for you with Jasmine?
[15:52] spies8chance: that's a possibility.
[15:52] spies8chance: with jasmine? hm.
[15:53] spies8chance: neither one of them have really mentioned jasmine.
[15:53] spies8mary: I haven't found much interaction.
[15:53] spies8chance: but assuming jasmine is a spy, she's rabidly defending kiara right now.
[15:53] spies8mary: That would imply that Jasmine wants to look good afterwards.
[15:53] spies8mary: And thus Dane is a Spy.
[15:53] spies8chance: i agree.
[15:53] spies8mary: It's bad logic to use though.
[15:53] spies8mary: But it feels right.
[15:53] spies8chance: i don't think so.
[15:54] spies8chance: i do think that we can't expect to know jasmine's every thought, but putting the facts together and coming to that conclusion fits.
[15:54] spies8chance: so you think we should exile dane?
[16:00] spies8chance: i'm voting him, and i think rondak will.
[16:02] spies8mary: I think so, but I'm still reading. It's an important decision.
[16:02] spies8mary: Why do you think exiling Kiara will give more information?
[16:03] spies8chance: simply put - she's done more, and would leave more interactions with players. that's really all i meant.
[16:03] spies8mary: That's true.
[16:17] spies8chance: hm.
[16:17] spies8chance: i hope we have the votes to exile dane.
[16:17] spies8chance: turning to the technical aspect of an exile always sucks. :-P
[16:18] spies8mary: You never seem to have trouble drumming up votes.
[16:18] spies8mary: Have you asked anyone about it?
[16:18] spies8chance: for myself, no. :-P
[16:18] spies8chance: rondak.
[16:18] spies8chance: kiara's away, apparently.
[16:18] spies8mary: Stephanie is voting for Kiara?
[16:19] spies8chance: i haven't gotten to talk to her about dane.

[Mary]

[18:58] spies8chance: mary, are you voting dane?
[18:58] spies8mary: Yes.
[18:58] spies8chance: okay.
[18:59] spies8chance: steph and hambone are too.

[Mary]

[18:54] spies8mary: I'm not finding it. I think I'm incorrect.
[18:54] spies8stephanie: yeah well rondak may have lied to me about his vote
[18:54] spies8stephanie: as well as dane
[19:13] spies8stephanie: well that's good, rondak wasn't lieing to me
[19:13] spies8mary: Is anyone else voting for you?
[19:13] spies8stephanie: i don't think so
[19:13] spies8stephanie: since jasmine can't vote
[19:15] spies8stephanie: i don't like this
[19:15] spies8mary: I can't imagine him acting any differently.
[19:20] spies8stephanie: well crap
[19:21] spies8stephanie: are we really sure chance is a cit?
[19:21] spies8mary: Yes.
[19:21] spies8stephanie: jasmine and kiara
[19:22] spies8mary: I will go back and make sure, but Gertrude was very convincing.
[19:22] spies8stephanie: dane was suspicious
[19:33] spies8mary: I have a feeling one of us two will be Imprisoned.
[19:33] spies8stephanie: i'm thinking it might actually be chance this time
[19:33] spies8mary: I guess it depends on who's right and who's wrong with their suspicions.
[19:34] spies8mary: Kiara-Jasmine
[19:34] spies8stephanie: well i am pretty sure about you and chance
[19:34] spies8mary: Kiara-Hambone
[19:34] spies8stephanie: and i think hambone is cit
[19:34] spies8mary: Jasmine-Hambone
[19:34] spies8stephanie: so that leaves kiara/jasmine/rondak
[19:34] spies8stephanie: and i am leaning cit on ronka
[19:34] spies8mary: I will be pretty surprised now if Rondak is a Spy.
[19:35] spies8stephanie: so it sure looks like kiara/jasmine to me
[19:35] spies8mary: That would mean the top three candidates the last two exiles were all Spies.
[19:36] spies8mary: I don't know why the Spies would do that instead of just ganging up and getting a Cit out.
[19:36] spies8mary: So I think Rondak is probably a Cit.
[19:36] spies8stephanie: i agree
[19:36] spies8stephanie: i just think now it has to be kiara/jasmine
[19:36] spies8mary: Jasmine has never lifted a finger to catch Spies.
[19:37] spies8stephanie: neither has kiara
[19:37] spies8mary: Except once WAY back.
[19:37] spies8mary: But she didn't vote the Spy she said she caught.
[19:37] spies8mary: And it was Isaac.
[19:37] spies8stephanie: under the fog?
[19:37] spies8mary: No, in episode 2.
[19:37] spies8mary: She and I compared notes and saw that Isaac had switched suspicions.
[19:38] spies8mary: And put Margot as his #1 when she wasn't even on the top 3 Isaac gave me.
[19:38] spies8mary: It felt like she was cooperating, but in retrospect, she may have just been playing along.
[19:39] spies8mary: Because she ended up voting for Margot.
[19:40] spies8stephanie: i just keep wishing that we had exiled kiara back in episode 6
[19:40] spies8stephanie: instead of zeke
[19:40] spies8stephanie: i still think it was odd that she didn't claim to cinnamyn
[19:41] spies8stephanie: but waiting to claim to owen and cory
[19:43] spies8mary: Ok, here's a thought.
[19:44] spies8mary: Have you seen Jasmine give any evidence on anyone?
[19:44] spies8stephanie: not much
[19:44] spies8stephanie: she posted that casse on isaac
[19:44] spies8mary: I talked to Kiara for quite a bit today and she came across fairly well.
[19:44] spies8stephanie: also one on claude
[19:44] spies8stephanie: kiara is a spy
[19:44] spies8mary: Yes, but she doesn't seem to make mistakes.
[19:44] spies8stephanie: who has kiara voted?
[19:45] spies8mary: Kiara has voted
[19:45] spies8stephanie: for a spy?
[19:45] spies8stephanie: i don't think so
[19:45] spies8mary: Themba, Rondak, Chance, Jenny
[19:45] spies8mary: You
[19:45] spies8stephanie: claude
[19:46] spies8stephanie: you think she's just misguided cit?
[19:46] spies8mary: I think we need to get everyone talking about each other.
[19:46] spies8mary: I want to hear more out of Jasmine. If she's a Spy, she'll have trouble talking about her partner.
[19:47] spies8mary: Notice, when she talks about you and me being Spies she just spits it out effortlessly.
[19:47] spies8mary: I want to hear her talk more about Kiara, Hambone and Rondak.
[19:47] spies8stephanie: yep, and doesn't want to say anything else
[19:47] spies8mary: I can't believe she just left.
[19:48] spies8stephanie: (9:25:32 PM) spies8jasmine: i do read things, and your a spy.
(9:25:34 PM) spies8jasmine: night

[19:48] spies8stephanie: lol
[19:48] spies8mary: She had no interest in the truth.
[19:48] spies8mary: I wish we could exile her.
[19:48] spies8mary: But it just doesn't make sense to.
[19:49] spies8stephanie: i think it makes more sense to exile kiara first
[19:49] spies8stephanie: but i am absolutely certain that jasmine is spy
[19:49] spies8stephanie: so i could go along with that
[19:49] spies8mary: I think so, yes.
[19:49] spies8mary: Do you think we could learn something from Imprisonment if we each express a different suspect beforehand?
[19:49] spies8stephanie: i think there was a whole lot of fishiness going on with her getting her vote back
[19:50] spies8mary: And see who gets Imprisoned?
[19:50] spies8stephanie: dane was so funny
[19:50] spies8mary: Dane was Dane to the very end.
[19:50] spies8stephanie: he actually talked to me after the last exile and before imprisonment
[19:50] spies8mary: I was really hoping he was just being a crabapple Spy.
[19:50] spies8stephanie: i thought he was fishing around for who to imprison
[19:51] spies8stephanie: since he never talked to me before
[19:51] spies8mary: What if you say you suspect Kiara, and I say I suspect Jasmine most
[19:51] spies8mary: And Chance makes a push on Hambone or Rondak.
[19:52] spies8mary: Do you think the Spies will Imprison whoever's suspecting one of their own?
[19:52] spies8mary: It makes sense that they would.
[19:52] spies8stephanie: it does
[19:52] spies8stephanie: except that chance is really only confirmed cit
[19:52] spies8mary: I think Darla tried this in Spies5.
[19:52] spies8stephanie: and i think they might go for him
[19:53] spies8mary: He's been confirmed for a long time.
[19:53] spies8stephanie: they might think they could get one of us exiled
[19:53] spies8mary: Didn't he claim at Exile 8?
[19:53] spies8stephanie: yeah, but has been pushing for cits
[19:53] spies8stephanie: rondak
[19:54] spies8mary: He pushed for Lawrence.
[19:54] spies8stephanie: and he still looks like a spy to me
[19:54] spies8mary: He could be a traitor, I suppose.
[19:54] spies8stephanie: but i don't think we would ever exile chance
[19:54] spies8mary: His name is the Devil, after all.
[19:54] spies8stephanie: and that's what the spies have got to be thinking at this point
[19:55] spies8stephanie: is who would make a good mis-lynch
[19:55] spies8mary: I think you and I are more likely to get picked.
[19:55] spies8stephanie: but i am certainly willing to make a case on kiara and see
[19:55] spies8mary: Because we think better.
[19:55] spies8mary: If you are a Spy, you're one of the best ones ever.
[19:55] spies8stephanie: lol and you
[19:56] spies8mary: I will be really shocked.
[19:56] spies8mary: Kiara wanted me to vote you today and it just wasn't going to happen.
[19:56] spies8mary: She wasn't pushy about it, but I think she was feeling it out.
[19:56] spies8stephanie: which might point to you going
[19:57] spies8stephanie: so she can exile me?
[19:57] spies8stephanie: cause it looked like she could get rondak on board
[19:57] spies8mary: You said they only need one vote no matter what?
[19:57] spies8stephanie: one vote?
[19:58] spies8mary: One Citizen vote
[19:58] spies8mary: To help them misexile?
[19:58] spies8stephanie: if there are 2 spies with vote
[19:58] spies8stephanie: which we don't think there are
[19:58] spies8mary: spies8stephanie: otherwise it will take all 3 cits to vote out a spy
[19:58] spies8stephanie: and 5 voters
[19:58] spies8mary: Right.
[19:59] spies8stephanie: but it does mean that cits need to stick together
[19:59] spies8stephanie: i dont' think we should be splitting our votes between kiara and jasmine
[20:00] spies8mary: Well, two of you, me, Chance will be around. Almost definitely.
[20:00] spies8stephanie: we need to pick one
[20:00] spies8mary: A Jasmine vote doesn't make sense.
[20:00] spies8mary: If she is a Spy at final 2, we win, right?
[20:00] spies8stephanie: i would think so
[20:01] spies8stephanie: but i guess it would depend on who final 2 are
[20:01] spies8stephanie: rondak and hambone? could be confused into voting each other?
[20:02] spies8stephanie: but i think it will final 3
[20:02] spies8stephanie: 3 + jasmine
[20:03] spies8mary: There were 8 tonight
[20:03] spies8stephanie: still if it's you, hambone, and rondak
[20:03] spies8mary: There will be 6 at the next exile.
[20:03] spies8stephanie: 7 voters
[20:03] spies8mary: Then 4, then 2 at exile.
[20:03] spies8mary: Right?
[20:04] spies8mary: So if the last exile is 2 people, Jasmine plus a Cit, we win.
[20:04] spies8mary: Because she doesn't have a vote.
[20:04] spies8stephanie: oh yes
[20:04] spies8mary: Am I doing that right?
[20:05] spies8stephanie: it seems odd, cause i always think of it coming down to 2 cits v spy
[20:05] spies8stephanie: but you're right it could be 1 cit v spy
[20:05] spies8stephanie: if jasmine were spy
[20:07] spies8mary: I just had a thought.
[20:07] spies8mary: It has bothered me that Lawrence voted Cinnamyn.
[20:07] spies8mary: When he could have voted Rondak. It's bizarre unless Rondak is a Spy, right?
[20:08] spies8mary: What might explain that instead, if Rondak is a Cit
[20:08] spies8mary: Is that if the Spies know one Spy doesn't have a vote
[20:09] spies8mary: That they are in big trouble and need two Spies to survive to the end, not just one.
[20:09] spies8mary: And might be more likely to bus.
[20:09] spies8stephanie: when jasmine was against hambone to get her vote back
[20:10] spies8stephanie: both cinn and law were helping her
[20:10] spies8stephanie: and i think they decided that having a spy without a vote would be an easy place to hide out
[20:10] spies8stephanie: and law changed to voting for hambone
[20:10] spies8mary: Yes.
[20:10] spies8stephanie: and cinn just quit helping jasmine
[20:11] spies8mary: That would make sense.
[20:11] spies8mary: Ok, I think this is how we should do it.
[20:12] spies8mary: We have a few stories of who the final two Spies are.
[20:12] spies8stephanie: i do think its odd that kiara and jasmine have both switched to suspecting me
[20:12] spies8mary: If we each tell the story in detail, I think they will probably panic if one of the stories is scary accurate.
[20:12] spies8mary: Don't you think?
[20:13] spies8mary: They will be afraid that that person will push that story successfully and will roll up the last two Spies.
[20:13] spies8stephanie: i think it's worth a try, but i am not convinced it will work
[20:13] spies8mary: So they will Imprison them and call WIFOM.
[20:13] spies8mary: Well, if Chance gets imprisoned it might not say anything.
[20:13] spies8mary: Which is why you and I should make the two "good" cases.
[20:13] spies8mary: And if one of us goes instead of Chance, that says a lot.
[20:14] spies8mary: I can make the case on Kiara if you want.
[20:14] spies8stephanie: whatever
[20:14] spies8stephanie: i can send you my jasmine case
[20:14] spies8mary: Or maybe we both make the case.
[20:14] spies8mary: And see if one of us gets taken instead of Chance.
[20:15] spies8stephanie: oh that might make more sense
[20:15] spies8stephanie: if we both go after kiara
[20:15] spies8mary: Yes.
[20:15] spies8mary: We can have Chance go after someone else.
[20:15] spies8stephanie: and see if it's us or chance
[20:15] spies8mary: Chance can go after Hambone, say.
[20:16] spies8stephanie: no chance can just be quiet like normal
[20:16] spies8stephanie: or yeah he can go after rondak or hambone
[20:16] spies8mary: If he is wrong
[20:16] spies8mary: They will want to keep him again.
[20:17] spies8mary: If he's right or we're wrong, they'll probably take him and leave us.
[20:17] spies8mary: I think that makes sense.
[20:17] spies8stephanie: i think it would give us a better indication about kiara
[20:17] spies8stephanie: since we are both sold on jasmine as spy
[20:19] spies8stephanie: imprisonment isn't until friday?
[20:19] spies8mary: Let's see.
[20:19] spies8mary: Tomorrow and Wednesday are days off. Imprisonment #12 will be Friday.
[20:20] spies8mary: Who do you think Chance's case should be on? Hambone and Rondak?
[20:20] spies8stephanie: i don't know, let him choose whoever he's more comfortable with
[20:20] spies8mary: Or maybe you and one of them.
[20:21] spies8stephanie: i'm pretty sure anyone who suspects me will be kept around
[20:22] spies8stephanie: the spies are going to have to mislynch someone
[20:22] spies8mary: If Jasmine is a Spy
[20:22] spies8stephanie: and so anyone who voices suspicions of a cit is going to be kept
[20:22] spies8mary: We get two more chances to find her partner, I think.
[20:23] spies8stephanie: it sure seems like it
[20:24] spies8stephanie: and so the spies are going to be desperate to mislynch anyone they can
[20:24] spies8mary: I think that's why Lawrence bused Cinnamyn.
[20:25] spies8mary: To try to get one spy looking better.
[20:25] spies8mary: If it was Alexei, Isaac, Magalie, Cinnamyn, Lawrence, Jasmine, Kiara, they looked really bad all game.
[20:26] spies8mary: It's actually kind of sad it's taken us this long to get them all.
[20:26] spies8stephanie: lol we had the help of citizens like dane and awohali
[20:26] spies8mary: Awohali.
[20:28] spies8stephanie: are you talking to rondak? i see he is on
[20:28] spies8mary: No.
[20:28] spies8mary: I usually say two things to him and then he stops responding.
[20:28] spies8stephanie: yes he's very odd
[20:29] spies8stephanie: hard to talk to
[20:29] spies8mary: We should probably have our future chats in the group chat room.
[20:29] spies8mary: It must be so boring for the viewers now.
[20:29] spies8stephanie: ahhh
[20:38] spies8stephanie: talking to rondak
[20:39] spies8stephanie: (10:39:14 PM) spies8rondak: I'm leaning toward mary, hambone and you

[20:41] spies8mary: As the Spies?
[20:42] spies8stephanie: yep
[20:47] spies8stephanie: (10:43:11 PM) spies8stephanie: but hambone and i were part of the group that voted larry over you
(10:43:18 PM) spies8stephanie: why do you think we are spies?
(10:43:55 PM) spies8rondak: wifom
(10:45:52 PM) spies8stephanie: and we also voted out cinnamyn
(10:46:09 PM) spies8stephanie: do you really think the spies would continue to vote out their own
(10:46:12 PM) spies8rondak: I'll have to think about it
(10:46:19 PM) spies8rondak: g2g
(10:46:23 PM) spies8stephanie: as opposed to kiara who has never voted a spy?
(10:46:28 PM) spies8rondak: I need tofinish some work

[20:47] spies8stephanie: maybe he is a spy
[20:48] spies8mary: Holy crap.
[20:48] spies8mary: So I'm a Spy for not voting him and you two are Spies for voting him.
[20:49] spies8stephanie: i think he was right on one point spies8rondak: I'll have to think about it
[20:51] spies8mary: Ugh.
[20:52] spies8mary: I'm going to sleep on it. I'm exhausted.
[20:52] spies8stephanie: ok i'll start my case on kiara
[20:52] spies8mary: I will see you tomorrow. I don't plan to miss the days off, so if we can get people talking, all the better.
[20:52] spies8stephanie: i think it's a good plan
[20:52] spies8mary: Go have your dream dinner.
[20:52] spies8mary: I'm still drooling about it.
[20:52] spies8stephanie: eeew that would be good
[20:53] spies8mary: Yeah.