Mary's Episode 10 Conversations
Aug 11, 2010 7:53:58 GMT -6
Post by Mary on Aug 11, 2010 7:53:58 GMT -6
[02:25] spies8kiara: goodnight (morning?) mary, wasnt expecting to see you on
[02:25] spies8mary: Hi.
[02:25] spies8kiara: how are you?
[02:25] spies8mary: I've been so busy lately but I've been really wanting to talk with people.
[02:25] spies8mary: I'm glad someone finally logged in.
[02:25] spies8mary: I'm exhausted and reading people's suspicions.
[02:26] spies8kiara: lol some of them are more like novels, lol
[02:27] spies8kiara: i do have a major concern about owens, honestly
[02:27] spies8mary: Who do you think the three Spies are now?
[02:27] spies8kiara: my money is still on rondak. owen is rising. my #3 would be either dane or steph. what about you?
[02:28] spies8mary: It is bothering me that people are protecting Rondak for seemingly no reason.
[02:28] spies8mary: I just found a third protection.
[02:28] spies8mary: Hambone. I just posted if you want to read it.
[02:28] spies8kiara: checking
[02:30] spies8kiara: hambone has been raising flags for me. specifically in owens thread where he pretty much says 'i fos you but lol not really'. if i havent had such a strong cit readon him all game he'd be much higher up my list
[02:31] spies8mary: I haven't talked with Owen much but I got a decent Citizen read off him around episode 5-6.
[02:31] spies8mary: What do you find suspect about him?
[02:32] spies8kiara: there are two big things for me: one old, one new
[02:34] spies8kiara: old: i distinctly remember people saying that they were suspicious ok magalie because she was no help during ep3's challenge. why would a spy be of no help? because a fellow spy would likely win the power if the other side won. who were the top republican candidates? tina and owen. tina was a cit. you connect the dots.
[02:34] spies8mary: Was Owen the known candidate before that?
[02:35] spies8kiara: new: in his recent post, he made a comment about you giving him cit vibes because you made an important posts right before imprisonment because you were afarid you were going. this is valid to be, because i did the same thing when i posted my theory about isaac being the cover up. but owen waits unitl after imprisonment starts to post his big thread.
[02:35] spies8kiara: imho, yes, he was
[02:36] spies8kiara: i like owen, i really do. but right now, i have zero trust in him
[02:37] spies8mary: I think he said he sent that post to Stephanie and Claude?
[02:37] spies8kiara: i believe, because he alluded to that. but if it was me, id sent it to chance, the confirmed cit!
[02:38] spies8kiara: if that makes me crazy, please correct me
[02:38] spies8mary: I know, I find that odd as well. I was just thinking that before you said it.
[02:39] spies8mary: What's your case on Rondak? I'm reading his vote history right now.
[02:39] spies8mary: It's a pain to find old nominations.
[02:40] spies8kiara: it stinks. he was just as big of a wagoner as cinn was, and most the time from what i remember he gave no reason for his vote
[02:40] spies8kiara: even when old rondak voted alexie he was at the end of the wagon and gave crpa reasoning
[02:40] spies8mary: He was #5 on Alexei, last on the wagon I think.
[02:41] spies8mary: Ha.
[02:41] spies8mary: Yes.
[02:41] spies8kiara: ninja'd
[02:41] spies8kiara: i know everyone thinkgs im a dumb lurker spy, but ive been paying attention :-P
[02:42] spies8mary: I've never thought you were a Spy, actually.
[02:42] spies8kiara: well. near everyone then. lol
[02:42] spies8kiara: but you didnt refute the fact that i was dumb or a lurker. :-P
[02:42] spies8kiara: kidding!!!
[02:43] spies8mary: You're obviously not dumb.
[02:43] spies8mary: I think maybe you've lurked, but lurking can just mean busy sometimes.
[02:43] spies8mary: What did you make of the Cinnamyn vs. Rondak vote?
[02:44] spies8kiara: well, its hard for me to say, because im of the opinion theyre both spys
[02:44] spies8mary: It was 6-3 or so when I tried to count, and ended up 5--3-1 or so.
[02:44] spies8kiara: so for me, the only non-spy voter was you
[02:44] spies8mary: I asked everyone and it seemed Cinnamyn was a safe exile.
[02:45] spies8mary: And if crazy things happened, I thought #2 was a Spy too.
[02:45] spies8mary: So worst case scenario, we got a different Spy.
[02:46] spies8kiara: fair enough, and consistant with what others said. but my question is this: you voted chance to active his role, obviously. but why?
[02:46] spies8mary: I told him two things.
[02:46] spies8mary: One, it's more fun this way.
[02:47] spies8mary: And two, he'd have a chance to think it through and focus the exile in a pro-Cit manner.
[02:47] spies8mary: I haven't talked to him yet, but I'm not certain he accomplished that.
[02:47] spies8mary: I'm not sure why he protected Dane.
[02:47] spies8kiara: and therein lies the rub
[02:49] spies8kiara: im of a different opinion. it didnt give him a pro-cit focus, it allowed him to do the same thing i critisized claude for: hijacking the exile
[02:50] spies8mary: Well, I'm fascinated to hear his thought process.
[02:50] spies8kiara: get in line lol
[02:50] spies8mary: Dane is on my short spy list, but maybe Chance has a good argument against that.
[02:51] spies8mary: Also, for all I know, Chance has a trick up his sleeve as a confirmed Citizen.
[02:52] spies8mary: And giving him that power really can only help, at least that's how I thought when I did it.
[02:53] spies8kiara: personally i was fine with it when he wanted to protect gertrude. but had he asked my last round, id have said no. especially seeing how hard he was lobbying votes for a rondak exile. the fuck?
[02:53] spies8mary: Well, Rondak's a Spy.
[02:54] spies8mary: So I didn't have a huge problem with the lobbying.
[02:55] spies8mary: I think I just found something.
[02:55] spies8kiara: no no, your missing my point. if he wanted votes for rondak so bad, why would he waste on on him?
[02:55] spies8kiara: what?
[02:55] spies8mary: "This time, I'll nominate solely based on my past self's diary. "
[02:55] spies8kiara: waste one on*
[02:55] spies8kiara: ron or larry?
[02:55] spies8mary: Rondak nominated Chance at #6. That was his reasoning.
[02:56] spies8mary: Right before Rondak #1 left though:
[02:56] spies8mary: "My vote was for Jenny. She was consistently my top suspect and I never wavered."
[02:56] spies8kiara: do you have links for those?
[02:57] spies8mary: I'll post this observation now.
[02:57] spies8mary: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=burg&thread=931&post=5042
[02:58] spies8mary: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=burg&thread=1156&post=6660
[02:59] spies8mary: Hmm.
[03:00] spies8mary: He also claimed to have reasons for voting Alexei before Tina and Nita posted their case.
[03:00] spies8mary: "I had my own reasons for the Alexei vote before the Nita/Tina"
[03:00] spies8mary: I have never seen those.
[03:00] spies8kiara: *scoff*
[03:01] spies8kiara: ok, this might be really superficial, but i have to ask
[03:02] spies8kiara: im looking a the burg. i see a post from sam saying kiara was replace. i see one for lilith. i see one for lawrence. i dont see one for rondak. i thought there was one, but where is it?
[03:02] spies8mary: There was one.
[03:03] spies8kiara: wait wait
[03:03] spies8mary: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=1109
[03:03] spies8kiara: it was posted by them judge apollo
[03:04] spies8kiara: thats why i couldnt find it
[03:04] spies8kiara: minor panic averted, lol
[03:09] spies8kiara: i asked because i had to verify that he was in fact replaced between those posts. it is a bit damning, but the jenny one was on th 7th whereas his replacement was on the 16th. a lot can happen in a week. unfortunately he has no vote for ep5 so its a hard call.
[03:10] spies8mary: Let's see.
[03:12] spies8mary: He did not join group chat on the 7th.
[03:12] spies8mary: Nor at all in episode 5.
[03:12] spies8mary: And was not at Exile 4.
[03:13] spies8mary: So I assume he disappeared for good and never posted after he made that Jenny statement.
[03:13] spies8kiara: if thats true it is reasonalbe to assume he would not have posted anything in his confessional to change b-rondak's mind
[03:13] spies8mary: Which leaves no explanation for his statement about his Chance vote.
[03:13] spies8kiara: that is a very good point, and id love to hear his explaination
[03:28] spies8kiara: ok, its way past my bedtime, lol. nite mary, hopefully ill see you tomorrow
[03:28] spies8mary: Ok.
[03:28] spies8mary: Sleep well.
[03:28] spies8mary: It was good to talk to you again.
[03:28] spies8kiara: likewise, take care
[02:25] spies8mary: Hi.
[02:25] spies8kiara: how are you?
[02:25] spies8mary: I've been so busy lately but I've been really wanting to talk with people.
[02:25] spies8mary: I'm glad someone finally logged in.
[02:25] spies8mary: I'm exhausted and reading people's suspicions.
[02:26] spies8kiara: lol some of them are more like novels, lol
[02:27] spies8kiara: i do have a major concern about owens, honestly
[02:27] spies8mary: Who do you think the three Spies are now?
[02:27] spies8kiara: my money is still on rondak. owen is rising. my #3 would be either dane or steph. what about you?
[02:28] spies8mary: It is bothering me that people are protecting Rondak for seemingly no reason.
[02:28] spies8mary: I just found a third protection.
[02:28] spies8mary: Hambone. I just posted if you want to read it.
[02:28] spies8kiara: checking
[02:30] spies8kiara: hambone has been raising flags for me. specifically in owens thread where he pretty much says 'i fos you but lol not really'. if i havent had such a strong cit readon him all game he'd be much higher up my list
[02:31] spies8mary: I haven't talked with Owen much but I got a decent Citizen read off him around episode 5-6.
[02:31] spies8mary: What do you find suspect about him?
[02:32] spies8kiara: there are two big things for me: one old, one new
[02:34] spies8kiara: old: i distinctly remember people saying that they were suspicious ok magalie because she was no help during ep3's challenge. why would a spy be of no help? because a fellow spy would likely win the power if the other side won. who were the top republican candidates? tina and owen. tina was a cit. you connect the dots.
[02:34] spies8mary: Was Owen the known candidate before that?
[02:35] spies8kiara: new: in his recent post, he made a comment about you giving him cit vibes because you made an important posts right before imprisonment because you were afarid you were going. this is valid to be, because i did the same thing when i posted my theory about isaac being the cover up. but owen waits unitl after imprisonment starts to post his big thread.
[02:35] spies8kiara: imho, yes, he was
[02:36] spies8kiara: i like owen, i really do. but right now, i have zero trust in him
[02:37] spies8mary: I think he said he sent that post to Stephanie and Claude?
[02:37] spies8kiara: i believe, because he alluded to that. but if it was me, id sent it to chance, the confirmed cit!
[02:38] spies8kiara: if that makes me crazy, please correct me
[02:38] spies8mary: I know, I find that odd as well. I was just thinking that before you said it.
[02:39] spies8mary: What's your case on Rondak? I'm reading his vote history right now.
[02:39] spies8mary: It's a pain to find old nominations.
[02:40] spies8kiara: it stinks. he was just as big of a wagoner as cinn was, and most the time from what i remember he gave no reason for his vote
[02:40] spies8kiara: even when old rondak voted alexie he was at the end of the wagon and gave crpa reasoning
[02:40] spies8mary: He was #5 on Alexei, last on the wagon I think.
[02:41] spies8mary: Ha.
[02:41] spies8mary: Yes.
[02:41] spies8kiara: ninja'd
[02:41] spies8kiara: i know everyone thinkgs im a dumb lurker spy, but ive been paying attention :-P
[02:42] spies8mary: I've never thought you were a Spy, actually.
[02:42] spies8kiara: well. near everyone then. lol
[02:42] spies8kiara: but you didnt refute the fact that i was dumb or a lurker. :-P
[02:42] spies8kiara: kidding!!!
[02:43] spies8mary: You're obviously not dumb.
[02:43] spies8mary: I think maybe you've lurked, but lurking can just mean busy sometimes.
[02:43] spies8mary: What did you make of the Cinnamyn vs. Rondak vote?
[02:44] spies8kiara: well, its hard for me to say, because im of the opinion theyre both spys
[02:44] spies8mary: It was 6-3 or so when I tried to count, and ended up 5--3-1 or so.
[02:44] spies8kiara: so for me, the only non-spy voter was you
[02:44] spies8mary: I asked everyone and it seemed Cinnamyn was a safe exile.
[02:45] spies8mary: And if crazy things happened, I thought #2 was a Spy too.
[02:45] spies8mary: So worst case scenario, we got a different Spy.
[02:46] spies8kiara: fair enough, and consistant with what others said. but my question is this: you voted chance to active his role, obviously. but why?
[02:46] spies8mary: I told him two things.
[02:46] spies8mary: One, it's more fun this way.
[02:47] spies8mary: And two, he'd have a chance to think it through and focus the exile in a pro-Cit manner.
[02:47] spies8mary: I haven't talked to him yet, but I'm not certain he accomplished that.
[02:47] spies8mary: I'm not sure why he protected Dane.
[02:47] spies8kiara: and therein lies the rub
[02:49] spies8kiara: im of a different opinion. it didnt give him a pro-cit focus, it allowed him to do the same thing i critisized claude for: hijacking the exile
[02:50] spies8mary: Well, I'm fascinated to hear his thought process.
[02:50] spies8kiara: get in line lol
[02:50] spies8mary: Dane is on my short spy list, but maybe Chance has a good argument against that.
[02:51] spies8mary: Also, for all I know, Chance has a trick up his sleeve as a confirmed Citizen.
[02:52] spies8mary: And giving him that power really can only help, at least that's how I thought when I did it.
[02:53] spies8kiara: personally i was fine with it when he wanted to protect gertrude. but had he asked my last round, id have said no. especially seeing how hard he was lobbying votes for a rondak exile. the fuck?
[02:53] spies8mary: Well, Rondak's a Spy.
[02:54] spies8mary: So I didn't have a huge problem with the lobbying.
[02:55] spies8mary: I think I just found something.
[02:55] spies8kiara: no no, your missing my point. if he wanted votes for rondak so bad, why would he waste on on him?
[02:55] spies8kiara: what?
[02:55] spies8mary: "This time, I'll nominate solely based on my past self's diary. "
[02:55] spies8kiara: waste one on*
[02:55] spies8kiara: ron or larry?
[02:55] spies8mary: Rondak nominated Chance at #6. That was his reasoning.
[02:56] spies8mary: Right before Rondak #1 left though:
[02:56] spies8mary: "My vote was for Jenny. She was consistently my top suspect and I never wavered."
[02:56] spies8kiara: do you have links for those?
[02:57] spies8mary: I'll post this observation now.
[02:57] spies8mary: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=burg&thread=931&post=5042
[02:58] spies8mary: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=burg&thread=1156&post=6660
[02:59] spies8mary: Hmm.
[03:00] spies8mary: He also claimed to have reasons for voting Alexei before Tina and Nita posted their case.
[03:00] spies8mary: "I had my own reasons for the Alexei vote before the Nita/Tina"
[03:00] spies8mary: I have never seen those.
[03:00] spies8kiara: *scoff*
[03:01] spies8kiara: ok, this might be really superficial, but i have to ask
[03:02] spies8kiara: im looking a the burg. i see a post from sam saying kiara was replace. i see one for lilith. i see one for lawrence. i dont see one for rondak. i thought there was one, but where is it?
[03:02] spies8mary: There was one.
[03:03] spies8kiara: wait wait
[03:03] spies8mary: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=1109
[03:03] spies8kiara: it was posted by them judge apollo
[03:04] spies8kiara: thats why i couldnt find it
[03:04] spies8kiara: minor panic averted, lol
[03:09] spies8kiara: i asked because i had to verify that he was in fact replaced between those posts. it is a bit damning, but the jenny one was on th 7th whereas his replacement was on the 16th. a lot can happen in a week. unfortunately he has no vote for ep5 so its a hard call.
[03:10] spies8mary: Let's see.
[03:12] spies8mary: He did not join group chat on the 7th.
[03:12] spies8mary: Nor at all in episode 5.
[03:12] spies8mary: And was not at Exile 4.
[03:13] spies8mary: So I assume he disappeared for good and never posted after he made that Jenny statement.
[03:13] spies8kiara: if thats true it is reasonalbe to assume he would not have posted anything in his confessional to change b-rondak's mind
[03:13] spies8mary: Which leaves no explanation for his statement about his Chance vote.
[03:13] spies8kiara: that is a very good point, and id love to hear his explaination
[03:28] spies8kiara: ok, its way past my bedtime, lol. nite mary, hopefully ill see you tomorrow
[03:28] spies8mary: Ok.
[03:28] spies8mary: Sleep well.
[03:28] spies8mary: It was good to talk to you again.
[03:28] spies8kiara: likewise, take care
