episode ix conversations

[Chance]

with cinnamyn.


spies8cinnamyn is available 8:32 pm
spies8chance 8:32 pm
hey cinn.
spies8cinnamyn 8:32 pm
aye boo
how u doin'
spies8chance 8:32 pm
trying to get jasmine impeached. you?
spies8cinnamyn 8:33 pm
lmbo
y.?
spies8chance 8:33 pm
cause i think she's a spy.
spies8cinnamyn 8:34 pm
wut 4.?
i think her vs. izaac sez a lot
spies8chance 8:34 pm
posted the short version in the burg.
spies8chance 8:35 pm
i don't think it says all that much, personally, since owen was going to vote isaac anyway according to something claude said a long time ago.
spies8cinnamyn 8:35 pm
i dont no, i jus' lyke her over hambone rite now
spies8chance 8:36 pm
i don't.
spies8cinnamyn 8:36 pm
hambone focused on jenny 4evr and she flipped cit..wut else haz he done
and he tried 2 threaten us las' nite in2 votin' him
spies8chance 8:36 pm
yeah, i saw that
'i won't care about the game wahhhh'
whiny bitch, but i think jasmine's a spy over him.
spies8cinnamyn 8:38 pm
i want 2 vote rondak or kiara
spies8chance 8:38 pm
i want to vote jasmine or rondak.
jenny flipping cit makes kiara look better imo.
spies8cinnamyn 8:38 pm
how.? i c no relashin
spies8chance 8:38 pm
kiara confirmed awohali was lying about jenny.
spies8cinnamyn 8:39 pm
ok
a spy wud no dat also
spies8chance 8:39 pm
yeah but would a spy have said that?
spies8chance 8:40 pm
the way i see it, if kiara's a spy, she could have said awohali did have a role, lynched jenny easy, and then said 'well i guess he lied about having gotten it after all'.
spies8cinnamyn 8:41 pm
meh
but jenny wuz gettin' lynched regardliss of wut kiara sed
spies8chance 8:41 pm
so why didn't kiaraspy just go along with it then?
that's what i'm saying.
spies8cinnamyn 8:43 pm
i guess i jus' dont c how it wud have mattered either way
spies8chance 8:43 pm
it would have been easier for a kiaraspy to say yes rather than no. in my opinion, anyway.
i'd much rather vote out jasmine/rondak.
if i'm alive.
i don't expect to be. :-P
spies8chance 8:45 pm
wanna see my next propaganda? :-D
spies8cinnamyn 8:45 pm
shure
spies8chance 8:45 pm

spies8cinnamyn 8:45 pm
i 4got i gotta finish da queschinz
spies8chance 8:45 pm
oops.
well it's that url.
spies8cinnamyn 8:46 pm
lmbo
spies8chance 8:46 pm
:-D
spies8chance 8:48 pm
who's the fourth spy?
if you say kiara, i say jasmine, and we both say rondak.
spies8cinnamyn 8:49 pm
itz gotta b sum1 from heaven/hell, and i dont think it wuz jus' kiara
spies8chance 8:49 pm
technically it could have been just one.
and it wasn't me.
:-P
spies8cinnamyn 8:49 pm
technically, but i think it wuz pritty poisoned
spies8chance 8:49 pm
i honestly do wonder about owen, but i think mary/claude is more likely if there's more than one.
after we claimed to owen we were basically in his back pocket. it made sense that he'd defend us.

[Chance]

with cinnamyn -


spies8cinnamyn is available 8:32 pm
spies8chance 8:32 pm
hey cinn.
spies8cinnamyn 8:32 pm
aye boo
how u doin'
spies8chance 8:32 pm
trying to get jasmine impeached. you?
spies8cinnamyn 8:33 pm
lmbo
y.?
spies8chance 8:33 pm
cause i think she's a spy.
spies8cinnamyn 8:34 pm
wut 4.?
i think her vs. izaac sez a lot
spies8chance 8:34 pm
posted the short version in the burg.
spies8chance 8:35 pm
i don't think it says all that much, personally, since owen was going to vote isaac anyway according to something claude said a long time ago.
spies8cinnamyn 8:35 pm
i dont no, i jus' lyke her over hambone rite now
spies8chance 8:36 pm
i don't.
spies8cinnamyn 8:36 pm
hambone focused on jenny 4evr and she flipped cit..wut else haz he done
and he tried 2 threaten us las' nite in2 votin' him
spies8chance 8:36 pm
yeah, i saw that
'i won't care about the game wahhhh'
whiny bitch, but i think jasmine's a spy over him.
spies8cinnamyn 8:38 pm
i want 2 vote rondak or kiara
spies8chance 8:38 pm
i want to vote jasmine or rondak.
jenny flipping cit makes kiara look better imo.
spies8cinnamyn 8:38 pm
how.? i c no relashin
spies8chance 8:38 pm
kiara confirmed awohali was lying about jenny.
spies8cinnamyn 8:39 pm
ok
a spy wud no dat also
spies8chance 8:39 pm
yeah but would a spy have said that?
spies8chance 8:40 pm
the way i see it, if kiara's a spy, she could have said awohali did have a role, lynched jenny easy, and then said 'well i guess he lied about having gotten it after all'.
spies8cinnamyn 8:41 pm
meh
but jenny wuz gettin' lynched regardliss of wut kiara sed
spies8chance 8:41 pm
so why didn't kiaraspy just go along with it then?
that's what i'm saying.
spies8cinnamyn 8:43 pm
i guess i jus' dont c how it wud have mattered either way
spies8chance 8:43 pm
it would have been easier for a kiaraspy to say yes rather than no. in my opinion, anyway.
i'd much rather vote out jasmine/rondak.
if i'm alive.
i don't expect to be. :-P
spies8chance 8:45 pm
wanna see my next propaganda? :-D
spies8cinnamyn 8:45 pm
shure
spies8chance 8:45 pm

spies8cinnamyn 8:45 pm
i 4got i gotta finish da queschinz
spies8chance 8:45 pm
oops.
well it's that url.
spies8cinnamyn 8:46 pm
lmbo
spies8chance 8:46 pm
:-D
spies8chance 8:48 pm
who's the fourth spy?
if you say kiara, i say jasmine, and we both say rondak.
spies8cinnamyn 8:49 pm
itz gotta b sum1 from heaven/hell, and i dont think it wuz jus' kiara
spies8chance 8:49 pm
technically it could have been just one.
and it wasn't me.
:-P
spies8cinnamyn 8:49 pm
technically, but i think it wuz pritty poisoned
spies8chance 8:49 pm
i honestly do wonder about owen, but i think mary/claude is more likely if there's more than one.
after we claimed to owen we were basically in his back pocket. it made sense that he'd defend us.
spies8chance 8:51 pm
what about brod?
spies8cinnamyn 8:52 pm
suspishis but not a priority 4 me rite now
spies8chance 8:52 pm
i wonder if he's not being an ass specifically so the spies don't imprison him.
the term is 'goat', right?
spies8cinnamyn 8:53 pm
well i jus' feelz lyke he playz a lot of devils advocate and shit, but he never puts himself out there much
so wen we az a burg do sumthin' wrong he wantz 2 point fingerz
spies8chance 8:53 pm
also, what's 'cirie'd'?
yeah i know.
he wants to personally thank me if we lose, btw.
spies8cinnamyn 8:53 pm
*eyeroll*
spies8chance 8:53 pm
i've given this burg enough issues already, and he hopes i'm imprisoned.
i was a bitch to him today, though.
spies8cinnamyn 8:54 pm
cirie played survivor, she made it 2 final 4 and final 3 but got da axe cuz she wuz likeable 4 da jury
spies8chance 8:54 pm
very first words from him to me today were 'you're wrong, by the way'
spies8cinnamyn 8:54 pm
and she wuz sassy n' black
lmbo
spies8chance 8:54 pm
she got the axe because the jury liked her?
:-(
spies8cinnamyn 8:55 pm
yup
spies8chance 8:55 pm
that sucks.
spies8cinnamyn 8:55 pm
and back 2 owen
i think he gets a lot of unnecessary credit
spies8chance 8:55 pm
i think jenny flipping spy would have made him look worse, but i think you're right.
spies8cinnamyn 8:56 pm
he voted izaac tha round b4 he exiled, so it wud have lukked weird 4 him NOT 2 vote him again
and he only voted magalie after bein' swayed by cory
spies8chance 8:57 pm
he says he was one of the main pushes for alexei, too, but i just kind of took his word for that.
and on magalie, i still think claude's defense of her is fishy.
i think awohali jumping on it was fishy too, but he was a cit.
spies8cinnamyn 8:57 pm
well, claude defended magalie
it dont matter da way dat he did it, he DID defend her
and hard
spies8chance 8:58 pm
i know.
that's what i was saying.
he also got camilla exiled when he knew he could claim.
i've never liked that.
spies8cinnamyn 8:58 pm
but mary also rubs me da wrong way
spies8chance 8:58 pm
i wonder if she's still around?
spies8cinnamyn 8:58 pm
i dont lyke her no post policy
she dont leave a paper trail
spies8cinnamyn 9:00 pm
she also seemz 2 shy away frum da majority
but dont ever push hard 2 save da persun in da majority
spies8chance 9:00 pm
you said the same about jenny, though.
spies8cinnamyn 9:00 pm
but i think jenny bandwagoned on ppl
mary stayz away frum bandwagons
but dont push da alternativez
spies8chance 9:01 pm
she pushed me to cory and owen.
spies8cinnamyn 9:01 pm
her lawrence vote really strikes me az odd
she told me she had "vague cit readz" on all of kiara/zed/u
spies8cinnamyn 9:02 pm
so she voted lawrence..den let cory/gert/owen all vote zed.?
and she wuz in da heavenhell grup, so there shud have been communicashin
spies8chance 9:02 pm
i'm trying to remember if she was in the chatroom at the time. i'm gonna go l-SHIT.
i missed the nine-o-clock post.
motherfuck.
spies8cinnamyn 9:03 pm
well thatz wut she told me personally
again it seemz lyke a ploy 2 say "i told u so" afterwards
spies8cinnamyn 9:23 pm
doez broderick still not believe your alignment?
i think its obvious with gerties claim
spies8chance 9:24 pm
stephanie doesn't think i'm fully clear either, heh.
and no, broderick doesn't think i'm clear.
'gertie didn't tell me specifically so i'm going to disbelieve all the glaring evidence that points to chance as a clear citizen and suspect him for being scummy
heh.
disregarding the fact that, y'know, i was scummy on purpose.
spies8cinnamyn 9:26 pm
i dont no, i am definitely sum1 who wants hard pruf b4 i think sum1 iz confirmed
but..i dont think it gets more confirmed den masonz
spies8chance 9:26 pm
an investigation, maybe.
unless you're awohali.
;-)
spies8cinnamyn 9:32 pm
lmbo
spies8chance 9:32 pm
:-P
spies8cinnamyn 9:38 pm
aight boo im out 4 da nite, c u l8r
spies8chance 9:38 pm
later sexxxy.
spies8cinnamyn is available 9:06 pm
spies8cinnamyn 9:53 pm
whassup peachez
spies8chance 9:53 pm
hey sexy. ;-)
waiting to be imprisoned. you?
spies8cinnamyn 9:53 pm
well after broderick, at least im not worrying about that.!
spies8chance 9:53 pm
:-P yeah no kidding.
spies8cinnamyn 9:54 pm
wutever, hez baiting me i think so i will go after him and he can call it omgus
spies8cinnamyn 9:55 pm
which im not goin' 2 do, cuz i still think rolegroup shud b lukked at more
spies8chance 9:58 pm
i agree.
i sent you my final words. <3
spies8cinnamyn 9:58 pm
did u send it 2 errybody.?
spies8chance 9:58 pm
nope.
you, owen, stephanie.
spies8cinnamyn 9:58 pm
i thot it wuz gonna b "i sent u my final words..and errybody else" lmbo.1
spies8chance 9:58 pm
:-P
spies8cinnamyn 9:59 pm
tha problem i think will b getting the cits in da rolegroup 2 also lukk in2 da rolegroup
spies8chance 9:59 pm
claude, mary, kiara, and me are the only ones left.
spies8cinnamyn 10:00 pm
and owen.?
spies8chance 10:00 pm
oh yeah.
see, that bothers me, that i forget about him.
he's never around.
his stated reason for lurking was to avoid imprisonment.
but it still bothers me that cory was imprisoned over owen during the round that neither were immune.
spies8cinnamyn 10:01 pm
i can imagine it wud b hard 2 trust a grup of ppl 4 a long tyme and then realize theres a traitor. hard 2 turn on them but u have 2
spies8chance 10:01 pm
mhm.
spies8chance 10:10 pm
also feel free to post my pm when i'm gone, just in case stephanie and owen are both spies. :-P
spies8cinnamyn 10:10 pm
lmbo.!
i will
spies8chance 10:12 pm
interesting that owen the powercit is the first one safe.
spies8cinnamyn 10:12 pm
powercit my ass
not no more hez not
spies8chance 10:12 pm
no kidding heh.
spies8chance 10:20 pm
i like kiara for being the cat in the story.
spies8cinnamyn 10:20 pm
purrrrrrrrrrr
spies8chance 10:21 pm
gasp, you're admitting to being the cat which is the fourth spy! exileeeeee
spies8cinnamyn 10:22 pm
im not admitting 2 n e thing.! lies, slander.!!!
i jus' like cats
spies8chance 10:22 pm
hahaha, suuureee.
okay.
spies8chance 10:24 pm
don't let rondak slip by any more, k?
spies8cinnamyn 10:25 pm
im not
spies8chance 10:25 pm
kk
spies8chance 10:33 pm
uhhh.
spies8cinnamyn 10:33 pm
at least u dont have 2 post a goodbye.??
spies8chance 10:33 pm
is true.
spies8cinnamyn 10:34 pm
i want 2 do a little dance but i will refrain 2 keep it civil
spies8chance 10:34 pm
until after he leaves, anyway.
:-D
spies8cinnamyn 10:34 pm
so
sum1 in da rolegrup didnt die
another reazin 2 luk in2 them
spies8chance 10:35 pm
owen didn't die, again.
spies8cinnamyn 10:35 pm
the spy(ies) in there obv want 2 keep ppl around
exile safety in numbers
spies8chance 10:35 pm
yeah.
i wonder if this means all my suspicions are wrong?
spies8cinnamyn is available 11:00 pm
spies8cinnamyn 11:01 pm
im irritated
claude blocks my vote after i go 4 rolegroup
mary suspects NO ONE in the rolegroup
spies8chance 11:01 pm
i think you have good points on the rolegroup, personally.
i'm almost sure one of kiara/claude is a spy.
and i honestly think it's claude at this point.
wouldn't that be ironic.
spies8cinnamyn 11:02 pm
well i can't post on claude because it would be omgus
spies8chance 11:02 pm
people would say that for me, too.
spies8cinnamyn 11:02 pm
but i keep asking him y he blocked my vote and no answer
spies8cinnamyn 11:13 pm
claude knos he iz full of shit
spies8chance 11:14 pm
he's not saying anything.
i thought i had a valid question.
spies8cinnamyn 11:14 pm
and he figured hed come after me for not doing anything all game after i lead an awohali exile?
pleaz
spies8cinnamyn 11:40 pm
ppl wont publicly vote 4 them, espeshally if i dont have a vote
spies8chance 11:40 pm
why not?
spies8cinnamyn 11:40 pm
i dont think ppl will
the ppl inside of it wont
spies8chance 11:41 pm
inside = the rolegroup?
spies8cinnamyn 11:42 pm
yea
spies8cinnamyn 12:00 am
do u really think rondak wud b a better path dis exile.?
spies8chance 12:00 am
hmm.
to be honest, he's a lurker and i want him gone regardless, but i also think he's a bandwagoning spy.
claude, if a spy, is much more dangerous, though.
spies8cinnamyn 12:01 am
my fear iz, the votez split and rondak/claude get me exiled bcuz they both apparently suspect me
rondak bcuz i led the awohali exile
WHICH HE VOTED 4
spies8chance 12:02 am
i don't think you're a spy.
i think i can get mary to vote for rondak with me.
stephanie might follow me too.
spies8cinnamyn 12:02 am
well and 2 make it worse i dont have a vote
spies8chance 12:03 am
that still bothers me. claude's whole switch to you from owen bothers me.
spies8cinnamyn 12:04 am
i dont no about dane/hambone
or lawrence
spies8chance 12:04 am
i know nothing about dane and hambone, but i have a cit read on larry.
larry suspects claude.
spies8cinnamyn 12:05 am
i know dane suspected claude a loooong time ago
dont know about now
but i think hambone suspects rondak.?
spies8chance 12:05 am
i don't know.
spies8cinnamyn 12:06 am
i can never catch either online
spies8chance 12:06 am
hambone was online to win his vote back.
spies8chance 12:14 am
night babe.
spies8cinnamyn 12:14 am
nite punkin

[Chance]

with stephanie -


spies8stephanie is available 9:08 pm
spies8chance 9:08 pm
i missed it. :-(
now i have to wait a whole hour.
spies8stephanie 9:08 pm
another 52 mins
spies8chance 9:09 pm
yeah.
out of curiosity why do you not want jasmine to get her vote back?
not that i don't appreciate your efforts. :-)
spies8stephanie 9:10 pm
i am #1 on her suspect list
spies8stephanie 9:11 pm
is the easy answer
spies8chance 9:12 pm
heh.
what's the not easy answer?
spies8stephanie 9:14 pm
that i have had mild suspicions on her forever, mostly based on her being disruptive in chats and more interested in saving herself than in finding spies
spies8chance 9:14 pm
interesting.
spies8stephanie 9:14 pm
if it were not for isaac, i would have voted her before now
spies8chance 9:15 pm
did you see what i posted?
spies8stephanie 9:15 pm
course, i've also had some suspicions of hambone, but meh
yes
spies8chance 9:15 pm
what did you think?
spies8stephanie 9:15 pm
i think most people are thinking that jasmine is cit
and that it will be a hard case to sell
spies8chance 9:16 pm
mmph.
it'll be harder when i'm gone.
you're gonna have to do it. :-P
spies8stephanie 9:17 pm
why are you so sure that you are going to be gone?
spies8chance 9:18 pm
it makes sense. i'm the only clear cit.
plus i have a role.
i'm not lynchable.
unless you're broderick.
spies8stephanie 9:19 pm
huh?
spies8chance 9:19 pm
but he's an idiot.
spies8chance 9:19 pm
'gertrude didn't tell me specifically that chance was confirmed as a citizen so i'm going to ignore all evidence to the contrary and suspect him'
spies8stephanie 9:19 pm
why are you unlynchable? can you protect yourself from exile forever?
spies8chance 9:20 pm
no, i mean, no one's going to lynch me because gertrude cleared me from being a spy.
and technically i could only protect myself every other exile.
my role activates only if i get a vote, and if i'm immune, i can't be voted.
spies8stephanie 9:20 pm
ahh
spies8chance 9:21 pm
when is imprisonment, anyway?
spies8stephanie 9:21 pm
tomorrow
spies8chance 9:21 pm
blech.
spies8stephanie 9:22 pm
i agree with broderick, that you are not entirely clear
gert also said that jenny was spy
spies8chance 9:22 pm
sam didn't confirm to her that jenny was spy, though. there's a difference. :-P
spies8stephanie 9:22 pm
but you've certainly moved pretty far down on the list
spies8chance 9:22 pm
plus why else would i have protected her so much?
spies8stephanie 9:23 pm
so she'd think you were cit?
spies8chance 9:23 pm
sam confirmed me to her. :-P
same as he confirmed her to me.
spies8stephanie 9:23 pm
well so you say
spies8chance 9:23 pm
that was the entire premise the group was based on, hon.
spies8chance 9:24 pm
did you see the pm she sent me before she was imprisoned?
i posted it in the burg.
she confirms me right there.
spies8stephanie 9:24 pm
yes she confirms you, but i don't remember her confirming the source as sam
spies8chance 9:25 pm
okay, then ask claude. or mary. or owen.
don't take my word for it.
spies8stephanie 9:25 pm
did sam confirm you to them?
spies8chance 9:25 pm
remember how you were the closest to figuring out how it happened even though i couldn't say exactly why?
no, gertie told them sam confirmed me to her.
spies8stephanie 9:25 pm
oh ok
spies8stephanie 9:26 pm
yes i remember
spies8chance 9:26 pm
mm. :-)
spies8stephanie 9:26 pm
and?
spies8chance 9:26 pm
just curious as to whether you've given it any more thought.
spies8stephanie 9:27 pm
not much
spies8stephanie is available 9:41 pm
spies8stephanie 9:41 pm
so any hints?
spies8chance 9:42 pm
on an completely unrelated note, have you ever heard of hit and heal, or the prisoner's dilemma?
i think there was a game show with a final game based on it.
spies8stephanie 9:42 pm
no i haven't
spies8chance 9:43 pm
oh, okay.
spies8stephanie 9:43 pm
but i can and have googled it
spies8chance 9:44 pm
good for you! :-)
spies8stephanie 9:47 pm
and on another unrelated note, what are your thoughts on claude
spies8chance 9:48 pm
i wonder about him even more lately.
i don't think he's been looked at enough since the isaac exile.
spies8stephanie 9:48 pm
is it possible that his power comes not from his role, but from bribes?
spies8chance 9:48 pm
i don't know about that, but i do think his role could definitely be a spy role.
let's count the roles.
spies8stephanie 9:49 pm
i just keep wondering why he has used it so sporadically
spies8chance 9:49 pm
savannah. allan. alexei. isaac. me. gertie. claude. cory. spy messenger. kiara.
spies8chance 9:49 pm
am i missing anyone?
spies8stephanie 9:49 pm
he's "forgotten" to use it twide
twice
spies8chance 9:50 pm
hm.
in any case, that's ten roles if i haven't missed anyone.
savannah, allan, me, gertie, cory - definite citizens. alexei, isaac, spy messenger - definite spies.
claude, kiara - ?
spies8stephanie 9:53 pm
but i'm thinking that claude might only get to use his power when someone accepts a bribe?
spies8chance 9:53 pm
hmm.
spies8stephanie 9:53 pm
that's why he was reluctant originally to use it on allan, cause he wasn't sure he'd get it
and that's why he hasn't used it the last couple of rounds
spies8chance 9:54 pm
the only bribe i know of that's been accepted is the one allan accepted, though.
doesn't rule out private bribes, though.
but cinnamyn apparently declined a bribe. so did dane.
spies8stephanie 9:54 pm
i'm sure there must have been more
that were accepted and not made public
spies8chance 9:54 pm
there might have been. should have, actually, unless sam's saving something.
not necessarily accepted, though.
spies8stephanie 9:55 pm
well, i'm thinking the accepted ones are not made public, and the declined ones are?
spies8chance 9:55 pm
five minutes, btw.
spies8stephanie 9:55 pm
ty
spies8chance 9:55 pm
i don't think that's right.
spies8chance 9:55 pm
you'll laugh when you see mine. :-P
spies8stephanie 9:57 pm
it sure seems like hambone should be here trying to help himself
spies8chance 9:57 pm
he was here earlier, but yeah, i agree.
spies8stephanie 9:58 pm
mine are boring
spies8chance 10:00 pm
post!
spies8stephanie 10:00 pm
and hambone is here
spies8chance 10:01 pm
i reminded larry too.
spies8stephanie 10:01 pm
ceiling cat!
spies8chance 10:01 pm
:-D
four more.
spies8stephanie 10:02 pm
i might be able to stay awake for one more tonight
spies8chance 10:02 pm
i can't.
i have work in six hours.
spies8stephanie 10:03 pm
eeuuww
spies8chance 10:03 pm
mhm.
spies8chance 10:05 pm
i almost feel bad for jasmine.
spies8stephanie 10:06 pm
i might have except for the way she ranted at me in the chat
spies8chance 10:06 pm
heh.
i'm going to bed.
spies8stephanie 10:07 pm
sweet dreams
spies8chance 10:07 pm
larry might be doing one more with you.
i would like to wake up to jasmine's impeachment. :-)
spies8stephanie 10:07 pm
:-) h
spies8chance 10:07 pm
nighty night.
spies8stephanie is available 9:49 pm
spies8chance 10:10 pm
did you get my pm?
spies8stephanie 10:10 pm
YES
spies8chance 10:10 pm
eep, yelling.
hi.
spies8stephanie 10:35 pm
well congrats on still being here?
spies8chance 10:35 pm
i know, right?
i'm flabbergasted.
spies8stephanie 10:49 pm
i'm really thinking something is wrong with claude's role that he "forgot" to use it twice in a row
plus once before while he was waiting to use it on the senate
spies8chance 10:50 pm
honestly given the way he's been whining about the activities it wouldn't surprise me.
spies8stephanie 10:50 pm
i think it has to mean that his role power is dependant on something
he only gets in when ....?
spies8chance 10:51 pm
i don't know, but he messes with votes, and the spy vote fogger messed with votes.
spies8stephanie 10:51 pm
and that's also why he was reluctant to target allan, cause he wasn't sure he'd have a power or not
spies8chance 10:51 pm
kiara said that was isaac, but can we trust her?
spies8stephanie 10:54 pm
i hate my internet
i think claude is hiding something about his role... and the only reason i can think of is that it would make his role look scummy
spies8stephanie is available 11:00 pm
spies8chance 12:14 am
night steph.

[Chance]

with mary -


spies8mary is available 10:58 pm
spies8chance 10:58 pm
something wrong?
spies8mary 10:58 pm
Hmm?
spies8chance 10:58 pm
you left the chatroom.
spies8mary 10:58 pm
I did?
I must have disconnected.
[20:54] spies8chance: has left the chat
[20:54] spies8owen: has left the chat
[20:54] spies8mary: has left the chat
[20:54] spies8cinnamyn: has left the chat
[20:54] spiesXTonisha: has left the chat
[20:54] spies8stephanie: has left the chat
[20:54] JinjosandJiggies: has left the chat
Can you reinvite me?
spies8chance 10:59 pm
just did. :-)
spies8mary is available 11:00 pm
spies8mary 11:49 pm
My top five suspects are in that other group.
I think she's full of it.
spies8chance 11:50 pm
i think she's got some good points, actually.
i don't understand your position on dane and hambone.
that might be because i never talk to them, though.
spies8mary 11:50 pm
What would you like explained?
spies8chance 11:50 pm
how much of you thinking hambone is a spy is based on jenny flipping citizen?
spies8mary 11:50 pm
Basically they have both coasted through the game based on voting Alexei exile 1.
Right?
spies8chance 11:51 pm
as far as i know.
spies8mary 11:51 pm
And yet they were #4 and #5 on the wagon.
spies8chance 11:51 pm
i definitely classify dane as a lurker at this point and would be fine with voting him on principle.
spies8mary 11:51 pm
With no cases whatsoever.
And in fact they seemed to try to distract the debate from the Alexei case.
spies8chance 11:51 pm
can you show where this is the case
?
spies8mary 11:51 pm
It's in a group chat.
From the Republicans.
Search for "Tina y yo" I think.
spies8chance 11:52 pm
okay. i'll ask you about it tomorrow. i really need to get to bed soon, but let's continue this.
spies8mary 11:52 pm
Where Nita says she made a case on Alexei.
Ok.
How are you feeling lately?
You were sick for all of July.
spies8chance 11:52 pm
i'm a lot better, actually.
spies8mary 11:52 pm
That's good.
spies8chance 11:52 pm
and yes, i was sick and gone for most of july. :-(
spies8mary 11:53 pm
Wherever you were sticking your nose, you shouldn't put it there so much anymore.
spies8chance 11:53 pm
but cory's just sleeping. :-(
spies8mary 11:53 pm
Yes.
I miss him.
spies8chance 11:53 pm
why? he's just asleep. he'll wake up for exile ten, just you watch.
spies8mary 11:53 pm
I am sad about so many nice people being gone.
I wish Owen was around. He is fun to talk with.
spies8chance 11:54 pm
i do get a cit read on him based on chats.
spies8mary 11:54 pm
Yes.
But it fades the longer I go without talking to him.
spies8chance 11:55 pm
i agree.
do you think the spies not imprisoning me means i'm wrong about jasmine?
spies8mary 11:55 pm
I don't like it when people coast on reputation.
Hmm.
I did think you would be the one to go.
spies8chance 11:55 pm
i did too.
never thought broderick would be.
spies8mary 11:55 pm
Who were your suspects?
spies8chance 11:55 pm
i was sure the spies were saving him for the final mislynch.
jasmine and rondak for sure. i think i mentioned owen to one or two people.
i know i mentioned i was becoming more suspicious of claude.
that's all, i think.
spies8chance 11:57 pm
i remember thinking owen, jenny, jasmine, and rondak made sense as the last four spies, but that was a while back and i don't think i mentioned that to anyone besides gertie.
and anyway jenny flipped cit like i thought she would.
spies8mary 11:58 pm
Maybe they kept you around for your suspicions of Owen and/or Claude.
spies8chance 11:59 pm
maybe.
spies8chance 11:59 pm
i would like a vote at this exile.
spies8mary 11:59 pm
Or maybe because you suspect Jasmine. It's tough to say. Or maybe Broderick was more right.
Or maybe it was a frame-up.
A vote on what?
spies8chance 11:59 pm
my first immediate thought when broderick was imprisoned was 'the spies are framing cinnamyn and i'.
rephrase. i would like someone to vote for me at this exile.
spies8mary 12:00 am
Who suspected Broderick?
I can vote for you if it's not a close exile.
spies8chance 12:00 am
okay, thanks.
i'm not sure anyone suspected broderick.
spies8mary 12:00 am
He seemed to suspect Cinnamyn and Jasmine.
I think.
spies8chance 12:01 am
definitely cinnamyn.
apparently jasmine as well, from what i read.
spies8chance 12:14 am
good night mary.

[Chance]

with claude.


spies8claude is available 11:02 pm
spies8chance 11:02 pm
hey claude.
spies8claude 11:05 pm
hey
I feel like Broderick getting imprisoned speaks badly for Owen
spies8chance 11:06 pm
why's that?
spies8claude 11:06 pm
like..you were pretty obviously the most likely person to get imprisoned today
spies8chance 11:06 pm
yes, yes i was. heh.
spies8claude 11:06 pm
And once you were, there would be no excuse for Owen to keep living
But instead Broderick dies.
I mean..really? Broderick?
spies8chance 11:06 pm
yeah, i was shocked.

[Chance]

with larry -

spies8lawrence 9:52 pm
Speaking of that
spies8chance 9:52 pm
hi.
spies8lawrence 9:52 pm
I believe Claude
Is a criminal
spies8chance 9:52 pm
then lynch him. :-)
spies8lawrence 9:52 pm
I'm going to present my arguments tomorrow
spies8lawrence 9:52 pm
Do you have any points to add?
spies8chance 9:52 pm
episode 1 - camilla.
spies8lawrence 9:52 pm
I've got that
spies8chance 9:52 pm
and the subsequent roleclaim by claude.
spies8lawrence 9:53 pm
His voting record is horrible
Especially if you are a Citizen (and the thing with Gertrude makes you look like one)
spies8chance 9:53 pm
the only one he's been right on is isaac.
he's been wrong on camilla, wrong on me, wrong on magalie, wrong on jenny.
spies8lawrence 9:54 pm
The role irks me too
How he's used it
Owen? Seriously?
spies8chance 9:58 pm
yes, seriously.
spies8lawrence 9:59 pm
And now why Cinnamyn over Owen?
spies8chance 9:59 pm
are you talking about me or claude?
spies8lawrence 9:59 pm
Both were on the Senate, and he said he trusted Owen the least on the Senate.
spies8chance 9:59 pm
does claude suspect cinnamyn? i must have missed that.
spies8lawrence 9:59 pm
He is using his role on her this round.
So I assume so.
spies8chance 9:59 pm
eyeroll.

[Chance]

with hambone.

spies8hambone is available 6:59 pm
spies8hambone 6:59 pm
WHO DO I VOTE FOR
spies8chance 6:59 pm
rondak.
spies8hambone 6:59 pm
i just read ur thing with claude
and i dunno what to do
spies8chance 7:00 pm
kiara defending rondak even though he's her number two, plus claude taking away cinnamyn's vote this round so she couldn't vote to save herself (this is before brod's imprisonment which frames cinnamyn pretty well), plus rondak finally pushing on someone but oh wait! it's the one person lots of people currently suspect, what a surprise.
this cinnamyn exile reeeeks.
spies8chance 7:03 pm
i think you should vote hambone.
....not hambone.
rondak.
haha.
spies8hambone 7:06 pm
ugh
WAIT
if i do this
this makes me a wagoner!
ive never been a wagoner
spies8chance 7:06 pm
voting cinnamyn makes you more of a wagoner.
voting rondak makes you 'convinced'.
spies8hambone 7:06 pm
well obviously
i suspect rondak more than her
i made a case on brondak
like
a month ago?
if u can recall
spies8chance 7:07 pm
i do, vaguely
spies8chance 7:10 pm
if you legitimately suspect rondak more than cinnamyn then no one can call you a bandwagoner for voting him over her.
spies8hambone 7:10 pm
oh i dont care if ppl call me it
its just, arrogance, i guess =P
spies8chance 7:11 pm
:-P
so have you decided?
spies8hambone 7:11 pm
so far ive only made my own cases
spies8chance 7:11 pm
i'm keeping a running tally, trying to sway the exile here you know. :-P
spies8hambone 7:11 pm
and ppl have been following me
yeah yea yea
ill vote for brondak
if ur wrong
spies8chance 7:11 pm
okay cool.
spies8hambone 7:11 pm
im a fuck u
and not in a good way
spies8chance 7:11 pm
please do sexy ;-)
hehe.
spies8hambone 7:11 pm
:-(
lol
spies8chance 7:11 pm
i don't think i'm wrong.
spies8hambone 7:11 pm
i wont be around for exile
rather
i wont be around in 30 seconds
i have to go get lots of liquor
and beer
for a party tonight
spies8chance 7:11 pm
kbye!
spies8hambone 7:11 pm
so
if ppl are like WTF
he didnt vote DANE
u know
ill go post now saying ive changed my vote
but yea
if they wanna know why
u can be my spokesman
until im back
spies8chance 7:12 pm
sure.
spies8hambone 7:16 pm
bye
spies8chance 7:16 pm
bye

[Chance]

with dane.


spies8dane is available 5:48 pm
spies8chance 5:48 pm
hi dane.
spies8dane 5:48 pm
well look who it is
been awhile
spies8chance 5:48 pm
not my fault. :-P
anyway, what's up?
spies8dane 5:48 pm
exile already, lol
seems most likely that cinnamyn will go
i'm' apparently on everyones spy list
but no one can give a good reason
spies8chance 5:49 pm
i don't like it, personally. rondak's one case just happens to be on the person currently most suspected? yeah i don't think so.
spies8dane 5:49 pm
you call that a case?
lol
spies8chance 5:49 pm
i'd love to see rondak go over cinnamyn today.
spies8dane 5:49 pm
my vote is on rondak
same for cinnamyn
spies8chance 5:49 pm
not that i don't think cinnamyn could be a spy. i just think rondak is much more likely.
mine is going to be.
cinnamyn don't have a vote.
spies8dane 5:50 pm
mary also suspects him, but said she will probably vote cinnamyn
spies8chance 5:50 pm
i'll see if i can talk to her before exile, but swaying mary is going to be difficult.
i think i might manage rondak, though.
...not rondak.
lawrence.
spies8dane 5:51 pm
ROFL
yeah, try to get lawrence to switch to rondak
see what happens
me suspecting rondak is WHY lawrence has me on his spy list
spies8chance 5:52 pm
:-P
spies8chance 5:56 pm
kiara is coming off very scummy in this chat.
spies8dane 5:56 pm
what chat?
spies8chance 5:56 pm
the one i'm having with her right now.
spies8dane 5:57 pm
kiara is a maybe for me right now, but not in the top 4
brb
spies8chance 5:57 pm
spies8kiara 5:55 pm
but lets be honest, they could have gotten cinn lynched if shes a cit without imprisoning brody to frame her
spies8dane 5:59 pm
thats pretty true
spies8chance 6:00 pm
i think imprisoning brod definitely made it easier. look at claude.
'oh brod was imprisoned over chance and owen, he must have been into something with cinnamyn'
it was an easy frame.
spies8dane 6:01 pm
i'm taking brod's imprisonment as both a null-tell and a gift from the gods
spies8chance 6:01 pm
i don't think it's a nulltell at all.
spies8dane 6:02 pm
hmmm
spies could have done it to point us to cinnamyn
or they could have done it because he was pushing on spy cinnamyn
or they could have done it to fuck with us
we won't know why they did it till cinnamyn flips
spies8chance 6:03 pm
i think if he was pushing on spy cinnamyn they'd have gone elsewhere with their imprisonment.
spies8dane 6:03 pm
so stop the cinnamyn exile
you are the "certified cit" right
spies8chance 6:03 pm
yeah, and that's what i'm trying to do.
but there's no one online to convince.
spies8dane 6:04 pm
lol, true enough
speaking of which, I need beverages
I shall return
spies8chance 6:04 pm
okay. i'm leaving in about half an hour, but will be back before exile.
spies8dane 6:19 pm
back
spies8chance 6:19 pm
wb.
kiara is defending rondak.
who is apparently her #2 suspect after cinnamyn.
spies8dane 6:21 pm
how?
and bring it to the group chat
spies8chance 6:21 pm
didn't realize there was one. everyone was away.

[Chance]

with kiara.

spies8chance 5:50 pm
hey kiara, who you votin'?
spies8kiara 5:51 pm
honestly idk. cinn looks like the best option on paper, but i know someone is gonna go 'omfg bandwagon!'
spies8chance 5:51 pm
yeah. me.
especially since rondak of all people is suddenly pushing her.
his /one/ case so far in this game just happens to be made on the person currently most suspected by the burg? i don't think so.
spies8kiara 5:52 pm
rondak is my #2, so its an intersting delemia for me
spies8chance 5:52 pm
i would love to see rondak go over cinnamyn this round.
not that i don't think cinnamyn couldn't be a spy, but rondak's pushing her this round when he's never suspected her before is beyond suspicious.
he's bandwagoned ever since he replaced in and no one's really called him on it.
spies8kiara 5:52 pm
no, i agree he has
spies8chance 5:53 pm
i call bullshit. he's just trying to get /someone/ lynched.
spies8kiara 5:53 pm
but if thats the case, why imprison the one person pushing hardest on the target?
spies8chance 5:54 pm
easy frame.
'oh look, brod was imprisoned, clearly he was onto something with cinnamyn'
claude even said as much earlier.
spies8kiara 5:54 pm
wifom fail
spies8chance 5:54 pm
exactly, but it's the only reason i can think of brod would be imprisoned over me or owen and it makes sense.
the spies control one third of the populace right now.
a voting block of four if they need it.
pushing mislynches is getting easier and easier for them.
spies8kiara 5:55 pm
but lets be honest, they could have gotten cinn lynched if shes a cit without imprisoning brody to frame her
spies8chance 5:56 pm
i don't know.
regardless of that, rondak's pushing her is bullshit.
spies8kiara 5:57 pm
id go as far as suspect
spies8chance 5:57 pm
i thought you said he was your #2?
spies8kiara 5:58 pm
i think calling it pure pull shit is a bit hasty. just because i suspect someone doesnt mean i ignore everything they say. (for more information on the topic, see tina getting me not to vote allan)
spies8chance 5:59 pm
i haven't ignored it. i think it's possible he had help (i.e. spy help) to build it.
because really?
broderick goes, everyone basically jumps on cinnamyn, and /then/ rondak posts his case?
which the thread was up for /days/ ago?
spies8kiara 5:59 pm
lol thats not exactly what i ment
spies8kiara 6:02 pm
im not saying pretend it wasnt written, im saying automatically dismiss it as being false. which is why id say his posting it was suspect where as you call it pure bull shit. for me the bigger thing is the timing. people were starting to push the 'policy lynch' as lawrence likes to call it, so he regurgitates something hes read elsewhere and calls it his own. but that still could just be a townie realizing 'oh shit i need to do something or ill die'. and i dont like using the logic 'hes too dumb to come up with it himself'. thats been used by a lot of people against a lot of people, mostly with fail results
brb laundry
spies8kiara 6:13 pm
back
spies8chance 6:14 pm
wb.
i wasn't saying he was too dumb to come up with it himself, i was saying it doesn't sound like him and i wouldn't be surprised if he got input from the other spies.
spies8kiara 6:15 pm
how doesnt it sound like him?
spies8chance 6:15 pm
given the way he types?
it just doesn;t.
spies8kiara 6:16 pm
typing on the forum and typing on aim are different
spies8chance 6:16 pm
it wasn't just his punctuation or capitalization, it was the way he said certain things. i couldn't point them out to you but to me it doesn't sound like just rondak.
in any case, the veracity of his case isn't the point here, it's the timing and the fact that it's on cinnamyn.
spies8kiara 6:18 pm
i guess with the brody imprisonment it could be his way of taking more credit than he really deserves hoping to extend his shelf life.
honestly, bussing makes the most sense to me
spies8chance 6:19 pm
at this stage, when the spies control a third of the vote? i don't think so.
spies8kiara 6:19 pm
but cinn was a prime target. maybe if it was closer to half id agree. but if a spy is likely going to be lynched, the best bet for the rest is to have someone else look good for it
spies8chance 6:20 pm
that's true, but she wasn't a 'prime target' until broderick's case. and broderick has been notably wrong pretty much all game long.
spies8kiara 6:22 pm
lmao, mostly true. she may not have been prime until after brodys post, but i think there was enough suspicion among everyone else that only a small spark was really needed to ignite it. and brody did post well before imprisonment, yes? there was a lot of time for that wagon to gain speed
spies8chance 6:23 pm
he did, and cinn refuted it well, i thought.
and i don't think cinnamyn was a big suspect before.
spies8kiara 6:24 pm
not big, but suspect
spies8chance 6:24 pm
which is precisely why rondak pushing her so hard is suspicious.
considering he has /never/ been suspicious of her.
spies8kiara 6:25 pm
is hard to right word? i really dont find his case to be push hard? did he push it in the chat that im not aware of?
spies8chance 6:25 pm
for rondak, /any/ push is hard considering he /doesn't/ push.
he has yet to actually push for anyone to be lynched.
that i know of, at least.
spies8kiara 6:27 pm
if it was anyone other than cinn he was targeting id probably feel better about lynching him before her. but her record is just a wagony, and shes been doing it most the game, whereas brondak had only been doing it since he replaced.
spies8chance 6:28 pm
i wouldn't say that her record is as wagony. i can recall several times she wasn't on the exile.
spies8kiara 6:29 pm
2. margot first round, which doesnt count. and me, which would have been right if i hadnt claimed
spies8chance 6:30 pm
why doesn't margot count?
and wasn't she on magalie one of the times she wasn't exiled?
spies8kiara 6:32 pm
i dont count round 1 because being the first round a vote on just about anyone can be justified because theres so little to go on. also, its one of the few rounds where she actually posted who she was voting, and actually did it early (not allowing her to wagon). as for magalie, yes, she was. in fact the round she was nominated and themba went, the only people left alive who nomed her are you and cinn
spies8kiara 6:33 pm
and her noming a spy gives her no pointes because i dont think anyone expected your guys' nom to be exiled over our nom. so if there ever was a safe spy on spy vote, thats it
spies8chance 6:33 pm
i agree with that, actually.
spies8kiara 6:33 pm
so if it did happen, process of elimination says its her
spies8chance 6:33 pm
however, i still believe rondak to be the bigger bandwagoner, first of all.
spies8kiara 6:34 pm
i could see merit in that arguement, yet
spies8kiara 6:37 pm
also, afaik, rondak was the last person on the alexei exile. which doesnt score him any points
spies8chance 6:38 pm
mm.
spies8kiara 6:40 pm
question: do you know who rondak voted ep 5? the exile thread doesnt have him recieving a penality nom for not voting, and one round lawrence didnt vote put was away and it said so in the exile post
spies8chance 6:40 pm
is who he voted not in the vote log?
spies8kiara 6:42 pm
he never posted
and sam never said
spies8chance 6:42 pm
we should ask.
spies8kiara 6:42 pm
and im 95% sure that round claude said he didnt use his power
spies8kiara 6:49 pm
theres some stuff i got to take care of before dark, ill be back in a bit
spies8kiara is away 6:49 pm
Stay in touch. Send spies8kiara a text message
spies8chance 6:49 pm
okay.