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Post by Chance on Aug 3, 2010 13:52:41 GMT -6
jenny flipped cit. jenny flipped cit. i'm the only one who didn't vote for her and she flipped cit. i knew i loved her. <3 jenny, rip. i have got to get my case on jasmine up before i'm imprisoned. when's imprisonment again? sam, help! chance needs to leave his mark on this burg somehow.
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Post by Chance on Aug 3, 2010 15:17:28 GMT -6
short version of why i think jasmine's a spy is up in the burg now. where the hell is everyone? hopefully if i'm imprisoned before i get all the quotes and shit together that'll be enough reasons that jasmine will get exiled. and hopefully if she doesn't respond until after i've already been imprisoned, someone will call her out on it. i remember that happening last season, with kathie, and no one ever did.
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Post by Chance on Aug 3, 2010 18:13:29 GMT -6
larry, me, stephanie, hambone, and kiara have posted so far to try and impeach jasmine. i apparently convinced larry to do so with my case on jasmine. we'll see what others think. claude is disinclined to participate, which comes as no surprise to anyone.
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Post by Chance on Aug 3, 2010 19:28:20 GMT -6
two thoughts.
a - hambone, kiara, and stephanie have all posted in the impeachment challenge, yet are not on aim, apparently. it's after exile and before imprisonment. the spies have to be talking. yeah, they have a board, but if i were a spy i'd want to be aiming with my spy buddies. so i wonder if they're not on invisible, and if they are... hm.
b - broderick's attitude. is it a strategy? is he being deliberately offensive so that no one will like him? the spies are sure to keep him around because of it. i wonder if that's not why.
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Post by Chance on Aug 3, 2010 21:37:15 GMT -6
follow these up tomorrow -
in other news, jas is apparently voting me because she thinks everything revolving around hal's no-exile comment is crap and i look suspicious for bringing it up. um, what? she's getting on my nerves. she's done nothing as far as i can tell but be in-character, yet she comes up with this out of the blue. well, at least she'll be the vote i need for my power to activate.
stephanie is the only person besides kiara that found out cory was the doc this episode. i want the bitch stone cold dead and gone. spy. awohali can wait. even though he's a spy too.
spies8jasmine 10:35 pm jenny isnt helping any with the suspcious smiley. -_- boo to jenny being a spy. i liked u.
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Post by Chance on Aug 4, 2010 21:08:18 GMT -6
imprisonment nine has started. here i go.
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Post by Chance on Aug 4, 2010 21:39:23 GMT -6
holy fucking safety belts, batman! i'm still alive?!
and broderick's gone?! did not expect that one at all.
okay, think logically and ignore the fact that you won't have to deal with broderick's bullshit anymore, chance. you can do it.
the obvious is that it's a frame of cinnamyn and a lighter frame of me.
be right back, gotta go get a chat for cinnamyn.
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Post by Chance on Aug 4, 2010 22:48:41 GMT -6
things are heating up in the group chat. claude has taken away cinnamyn's vote this round. mary and claude suspect cinnamyn - cinnamyn suspects the rolegroup (mostly kiara and claude, but owen, apparently, given how hard she's tried to show that he's a spy). i personally want to vote one of claude, kiara, or rondak.
given claude's and kiara's roles, lynching them might be difficult, but i really think one has to be a spy if not both. rondak's a worthless bandwagoning lurker and should be shot, but exiling will have to suffice.
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Post by Chance on Aug 4, 2010 23:12:34 GMT -6
heaven and hell - claude - role is scummy, roleclaim was scummy, switch from owen to cinnamyn this episode seems off. wrong on camilla, me, magalie, jenny. how much did he do on isaac? look into this. kiara - role could be scummy. hasn't done anything a spy couldn't have done. possibly forced into saying awohali didn't have a role. looks worse for jenny being cit. gertrude imprisoned right after she was granted entrance. mary - secondmost cit read. logical, seems to be trying to find spies. i don't think she'd have threatened to out me if she were a spy. owen - coasting. points for and against being a spy. helped exile alexei, exiled isaac, helped exile magalie, but how much of this could be bussing? order of scumminess (most to least) - claude, kiara, mary, owen. the lurkers - rondak - worthless. bandwagons. not only that, bandwagons spyishly. exile. dane - ? i know nothing about him. order of scumminess (most to least) - rondak, dane. everyone else - jasmine - bandwagoned me ep 1 for bad reasons, avoided awohali on them, slipped in the chat (i think), reaction to my investigation was scummy. however, the spies did not imprison me this episode, leading me to believe i could be wrong on her. hambone - ? nothing known. very nearly a lurker - was on a lot to win back his vote but that's about it. tunneled on jenny forever. don't know who he suspects now. cinnamyn - claude pushing her makes me think she's more cit. however, pushed owen as a spy pretty hard in tonight's chat. neutral read, leaning cit but could easily change. stephanie - probably my biggest cit read at this point. seems very honest and up-front, says anything that pops into her head. her theory that claude's role is more than it seems (that he gets to use it when x condition happens) seems off the wall, but i suppose it's not impossible. lawrence - new larry gives me a cit read. he suspects claude, which is a point in his favor as far as i'm concerned at the moment. order of scumminess (most to least) - jasmine, hambone, cinnamyn, lawrence, stephanie.
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Post by Chance on Aug 4, 2010 23:41:33 GMT -6
who i'd like to see exiled this round - claude, kiara, rondak, jasmine
who i'm currently fine with, but may change if one or more of the above flips cit - mary, owen, cinnamyn
who i can't see myself voting for in the near future - lawrence, stephanie
who i know absolutely nothing about and are thus a problem - hambone, dane
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Post by Chance on Aug 6, 2010 16:53:11 GMT -6
rondak's 'case' just happens to be on cinnamyn, the person currently suspected by most of the burg? yeah. don't think so. something's fishy there. dane's voting rondak and i think might get kiara to switch, plus me. i'm gonna try and get him lynched. he's bandwagoned all game long and is now pushing cinnamyn even though he's never suspected her? i call bullshit.
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Post by Chance on Aug 6, 2010 16:54:28 GMT -6
re: kiara - kiara saying awohali had a role would have been suicide. need to implement that in my jenny wagon thread.
jenny wagon thread. one piece of information we do have is that every spy was on her wagon. granted, awohali kind of contaminated the evidence with his fake claim, but it'd be stupid not to at least go through and see which votes look bad on her.
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Post by Chance on Aug 6, 2010 16:58:42 GMT -6
holy hell kiara is coming off as scummy in this chat.
spies8kiara is available 5:50 pm spies8chance 5:50 pm hey kiara, who you votin'? spies8kiara 5:51 pm honestly idk. cinn looks like the best option on paper, but i know someone is gonna go 'omfg bandwagon!' spies8chance 5:51 pm yeah. me. especially since rondak of all people is suddenly pushing her. his /one/ case so far in this game just happens to be made on the person currently most suspected by the burg? i don't think so. spies8kiara 5:52 pm rondak is my #2, so its an intersting delemia for me spies8chance 5:52 pm i would love to see rondak go over cinnamyn this round. not that i don't think cinnamyn couldn't be a spy, but rondak's pushing her this round when he's never suspected her before is beyond suspicious. he's bandwagoned ever since he replaced in and no one's really called him on it. spies8kiara 5:52 pm no, i agree he has spies8chance 5:53 pm i call bullshit. he's just trying to get /someone/ lynched. spies8kiara 5:53 pm but if thats the case, why imprison the one person pushing hardest on the target? spies8chance 5:54 pm easy frame. 'oh look, brod was imprisoned, clearly he was onto something with cinnamyn' claude even said as much earlier. spies8kiara 5:54 pm wifom fail spies8chance 5:54 pm exactly, but it's the only reason i can think of brod would be imprisoned over me or owen and it makes sense. the spies control one third of the populace right now. a voting block of four if they need it. pushing mislynches is getting easier and easier for them. spies8kiara 5:55 pm but lets be honest, they could have gotten cinn lynched if shes a cit without imprisoning brody to frame her spies8chance 5:56 pm i don't know. regardless of that, rondak's pushing her is bullshit. spies8kiara 5:57 pm id go as far as suspect spies8chance 5:57 pm i thought you said he was your #2?
she's defending her intention to vote for cinnamyn and at the same time saying 'well you could be right that rondak is a spy and cinnamyn a mislynch' so she can look good if/when cinn flips cit if she's exiled.
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Post by Chance on Aug 6, 2010 17:01:30 GMT -6
also (crap, what was i going to say? oh yeah) i wonder if rondak didn't have spy help building his 'case' on cinnamyn. the thread was up for it days ago yet he only posts it after cinnamyn has a heaping helping of suspicion from others.
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Post by Chance on Aug 6, 2010 17:46:03 GMT -6
trying to sway people from cinnamyn to rondak. kiara is definitely scummy right now - defending rondak even though he's her number two. claude's stance is 'rondak's scummy, but put him off until after cinnamyn'. both look like spies protecting a spy and getting ready to look good if he's lynched. if cinnamyn is exiled and flips cit they're both doomed. i need to talk to mary and stephanie. dane is on rondak and i will be as well.
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Post by Chance on Aug 6, 2010 17:49:48 GMT -6
this cinnamyn exile reeeeks. claude has realized his blunder, though, and now appears to be considering rondak. i'll post in the ep 9 group chat.
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Post by Chance on Aug 6, 2010 18:03:48 GMT -6
bah. this exile needs a fast derail. list of alive players:
claude - was originally pretty adamant about voting cinnamyn. seems to be considering rondak but i bet he votes cinnamyn anyway and the 'considering' will be to make him look better if cinnamyn flips cit. dane - voting rondak. i think he's a citizen based on this. mary - don't know. could vote either way. need to talk to her. stephanie - see mary. jasmine - no vote. owen - see mary. rondak - obviously not voting himself. presumably voting cinnamyn. cinnamyn - obviously not voting herself. cannot vote due to claude. hambone - not voting claude, but don't know whether he's voting cinnamyn or rondak. thinks mary had good points on rondak. UPDATE - has asked me who to vote for. i think i can sway him to rondak. kiara - scummy! most likely voting cinnamyn. tried to sway her but don't think i did. lawrence - voting cinnamyn according to the thread. swayable? don't know. chance - voting rondak.
that's -
cinnamyn (probably) - claude, kiara, lawrence, rondak rondak (probably) - dane, chance, hambone? no vote - cinnamyn, jasmine ? - mary, stephanie, owen
swinging this lynch away from cinnamyn looks possible. kiara and rondak are unlikely to change, but lawrence is possible if i get to talk to him, and if i get two of him, mary, stephanie, and owen, then claude may switch of his own accord.
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Post by Chance on Aug 6, 2010 18:12:32 GMT -6
UPDATE
hambone's voting rondak. mary, however, is voting cinnamyn. i need to convince her to change.
cinnamyn (probably) - claude, kiara, lawrence, rondak, mary rondak (probably) - dane, chance, hambone no vote - cinnamyn, jasmine ? - stephanie, owen
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Post by Chance on Aug 6, 2010 18:34:08 GMT -6
to do:
show mathematically that we cannot take jasmine to the final exile.
analyze the jenny-wagon.
make a point that claude could have not used his role on purpose so that, should a spy not be exiled, he would have all his rolepowers to use at final exile. or at least see how mathematically likely that is.
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Post by Chance on Aug 6, 2010 18:39:01 GMT -6
also, all of my current top four suspects that can vote are on cinnamyn. can we say 'mislynch city'?
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Post by Chance on Aug 6, 2010 18:48:43 GMT -6
UPDATE
owen posted in the thread that he's voting cinn. i forgot. crap.
cinnamyn (probably) - claude, kiara, lawrence, rondak, mary, owen rondak (probably) - dane, chance, hambone no vote - cinnamyn, jasmine ? - stephanie
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Post by Chance on Aug 6, 2010 19:56:24 GMT -6
well, i failed in swaying the exile. obviously i wouldn't mind cinnamyn flipping spy, but if she flips cit then rondak, claude, and kiara are all spies in my book.
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Post by Chance on Aug 9, 2010 14:52:42 GMT -6
well, cinn flipped spy, shoot me now.
no time to dwell on that, though. i think the last three spies are probably kiara/dane/rondak. claude is a possibility as well, although, he stated on cinnamyn the entire time so he looks a little better. kiara was defending rondak to me in our chat, yet she voted him at exile - i bet she tries to say i swayed her. i can prove i didn't, though, which means i'm going to be imprisoned - which means i need to talk to stephanie and mary and tell them to exile kiara after i'm gone. or at the very least, rondak, who needs to go asap because all he's doing is wagoning and lurking. two things i found while trying to compile a jenny wagon analysis thread that went nowhere thanks to awohali -
spies8jenny (21:03:36): The way I see it, I don't see how it makes sense for the spies to put Maggie into the senate as their first spy into the group. They could easiliy play the wifom card with just about anyone in the game, and there has to be one person at least that they could put up with some sway over her. There is no way they would have expected her to be able to sway votes on her own. It makes more sense to me though if there was already a spy in the group, and they got her in to try to sneak in an easier majority. The others that were on the senate at the time were Owen, Cory, Mary, and Spice. Out of them, I've said to people that I'd have picked either Mary or Spice as being that person over Owen or Cory, if my theory is correct.
--jenny was right. cinn was on the senate when the spies picked magalie. given that the spies picked magalie (who could be trusted to just vote and have no one question her) rather than a more active, noted spy, i wonder what that means for owen and mary (who were also on the senate)? i tend to think this makes them look better.
spies8broderick (20:00:52): "You can ask jasmine jenny claude hambone or kiara. I also don't want to hear about me not contributing when I come up with the first piece of discussion the entire episode (about if kiara's role didn't work on awohali because after he used up his one-use role, he reverted to a normal citizen, as per sam's usual policy) and was the only one to even make a post in the burg in a 24 hour period."
this is a big reason i'm starting to suspect dane. that and he's just as big a lurker as rondak, he's been tunneling on stephanie (a big cit read of mine) all game long, and he needs to die either way.
however, i think i'm going to make him exile immune if i make it through this imprisonment. if he's a spy, he's not as dangerous as kiara and he's less likely to stay around than rondak, whom people really need to start focusing on. so if i make him immune, people will focus on kiara/rondak like they need to. also, if dane is actually a citizen then i think he's probably ripe for a mislynch, and the spies might push him. if they can't, i might throw a roadblock in their way.
however, this is probably moot since i'm probably going to be imprisoned this round. picking up the fire, though, now that it's getting down to the wire, so it's about time they imprison me and ruin all my fun.
jasmine is still in the back of my mind as well, but on the back burner as she thankfully got her vote taken away.
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Post by Chance on Sept 26, 2010 18:49:48 GMT -6
Stupid, stupid, STUPID.
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Post by Jenny on Sept 26, 2010 22:17:46 GMT -6
And here I thought you protected dane because you were listening to what I said about him.
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