episode vi conversations

[Chance]

with cory.


spies8cory is available 9:49 pm
spies8cory 9:49 pm
Lol
Steph's was written by me
...Or was it?!
spies8chance 9:49 pm
heh.
yours was written by me, so don't take it to heart.
spies8cory 9:50 pm
Ah good h
I need a little bit of heat.
spies8chance 9:50 pm
you're welcome.
gertie's first one was mine too.
that's kind of my theme.
spies8cory 9:50 pm
I kind of threw mindless suspicion on all of you guys
spies8chance 9:50 pm
did you write my third one?
spies8cory 9:50 pm
No you'll know when mine comes up
spies8chance 9:51 pm
haha.
spies8cory 9:51 pm
Mine are all written like Cinn
spies8chance 9:51 pm
bahaha.
spies8cory 9:51 pm
I wrote that Mary poem Lol
spies8chance 9:51 pm
i wrote in all different styles.
hahaha!
love, doc
way to go.
spies8cory 9:51 pm
I wrote one for everyone except Zed
Hoping to set him up
spies8chance 9:52 pm
hehe.
did you sign them all 'love doc'?
spies8cory 9:53 pm
The first six I did
After that I figured they'd figure it out h
spies8chance 9:53 pm
hah.
spies8chance 9:57 pm
you wrote yourself a critique?
hahahahaha.
spies8cory 9:57 pm
Yup
spies8chance 9:57 pm
you kinda set up cinnamyn too, heh.
spies8cory 9:57 pm
Lol!
Lol I think I know who wrote the 2nd one
spies8chance 10:30 pm
didn't you say awohali said jenny and magalie?
spies8cory 10:31 pm
Uhh
when?
spies8chance 10:31 pm
earlier tonight.
before my computer unplugged itself.
spies8cory 10:31 pm
He thought either Claude defended Magalie because she was a Spy and wanted to save her
Or that you are a Spy
And he thought Jenny bussed Magalie
spies8chance 10:32 pm
no, no, no.
bah, let me look in my archives.
spies8cory 10:32 pm
k, not sure what you're referring to
spies8chance 10:33 pm
spies8cory (7:27:56 PM):07/10: I will also let it be known that I am still all for the nomination of both Jenny and Magalie, but it does not seem like that is a possibility this round.
wasn't that this last episode?
spies8cory 10:33 pm
Oh yes
He posted that
He posted 2 other names though
I am considering going Retro and getting my groove on with a vote for Chance.
spies8cory 10:34 pm
I am considering going Retro and getting my groove on with a vote for Chance.
woops
I am also considering nominating Rondak, due to both his apparent "noobness" to the game that is contradicted by times where he seems to know what he is talking about, and to the fact that he was more or less saved from being nominated last episode by what is almost certainly Spy handiwork.
I will also let it be known that I am still all for the nomination of both Jenny and Magalie, but it does not seem like that is a possibility this round. I am stating it here so that nobody will be confused in thinking that I have magically forgotten them. Let it be known that they remain in my thoughts and prayers. Mostly my thoughts. Not really in my prayers at all.
That's the full post
I only pasted part of it
spies8chance 10:35 pm
thank you.
spies8chance 10:37 pm
please tell me i'm in the right episode and didn't just stick my foot in it.
spies8cory 10:37 pm
Episode five
spies8chance 10:39 pm
so i'm good?
spies8cory 10:41 pm
Let me see when he voted you
spies8chance 10:41 pm
after jenny and i put magalie at 2, right before you and tina switched.
his point about 'not wanting to spread out nominations is bull'. jenny had a nomination, i had two, magalie had two, and rondak had a few himself.
spies8cory 10:43 pm
Sorry Chance, took sleeping pill
Brain is slowly shutting off
Talk to me while it's still half on
spies8cory 10:44 pm
Before exile I want to go through the entire episode five chat log
I think your point is valid
spies8chance 10:45 pm
okidoke.
well, i'm about to go to bed.
soooo.
spies8cory 10:45 pm
Not a hugely strong one
But it's not bad like Claude is making it out ot be
spies8chance 10:45 pm
his attitude, what about that?
so can't you tell him that? he's obviously not going to listen to me.
in fact claude hasn't said anything since i posted that quote.
spies8cory 10:45 pm
He just IM'd me
And linked me to Steph's post
spies8chance 10:45 pm
which one?
spies8cory 10:46 pm
The one where Steph posted that dialog with Magalie
spies8chance 10:53 pm
yawn. claude is booooring.
spies8chance 11:00 pm
i'm still here for a few minutes if you want to talk. but i'm tired of claude.
spies8cory 11:00 pm
I'm tired in general
Passing out
I'll catch you tomorrow
spies8cory is available 1:57 pm
spies8chance 1:57 pm
so i'm going to make a 'calling you out on your bullshit' thread.
'you' being nonspecifically awohali, broderick, and stephanie.
spies8cory 1:58 pm
Hm?
I suppose you fail to mention Claude because it's assumed he's included
spies8chance 1:58 pm
dissecting their reasons for voting me last round and showing that they're entirely crap.
eh, there's no point in doing claude. he voted me because he's always voted me and is always going to, regardless of what i say.
awohali voted me even though he agreed with all my defenses.
stephanie's reasons are already explained crap.
spies8chance 1:59 pm
i don't know what brod's were other than 'you misrepresent me, wah' which i don't.
spies8cory 2:00 pm
I'm really liking an awohali vote right now
Looked into Kiara, liking her less
spies8chance 2:00 pm
so am i. i thought about it more last night.
spies8cory 2:00 pm
A vote for her that is
spies8chance 2:01 pm
trouble is i'm not sure we can get him nominated. our little group of five only has me and gertrude in the house.
spies8cory 2:02 pm
Ugh
I might be able to get Hambone on board
spies8chance 2:02 pm
i'll talk to jenny.
spies8cory 2:02 pm
If he's not a Spy, that will suck for us
spies8chance 2:02 pm
mmm.
spies8cory 2:03 pm
I also want to be sure he's the one I want out
Or, well, we
spies8chance 2:03 pm
well, to be honest, being more suspicious of awohali makes me less suspicious of jasmine.
spies8cory 2:03 pm
Next time I see him
I'm telling him straight up I think his ass is a spy
spies8chance 2:03 pm
since they're the two that the whole jasmine-avoiding-awohali thing happened around.
spies8cory 2:06 pm
Ugh I really hope Tina doesn't get knocked out this episode
spies8chance 2:06 pm
so allan did in fact make owen immune?
spies8cory 2:06 pm
Pretty sure he did
spies8cory 2:13 pm
I feel like hitting a Spy this episode just needs to happen
When there's no logical reason for that to be the cae
From a statistical standpoint, we stand a greater chance of winning than we did when we started the game
spies8chance 2:13 pm
well, logically, we have to hit all the spies to win. :-P
as of right now i suspect awohali more than i do jasmine.
and i don't think they're spies together.
spies8cory 2:14 pm
Explain again your JasMan suspicon?
Also where the FUCK is Mary?
That bitch is hiding
spies8chance 2:15 pm
the fact that she bandwagon voted me episode one and almost got me lynched for a stated reason that ended up being a lie, and avoiding awohali when he tried to pin her down about it for like three episodes.
spies8chance 2:15 pm
and yeah, mary's absence is unnerving especially since she knows about me (and very likely knows about gertie).
spies8cory 2:16 pm
She has not been online in four days.
spies8chance 2:18 pm
listen to your fourth critique, by the way.
also you have another one up.
oooh, listen to that one too! <3
spies8cory 2:20 pm
Lol Owen definitely wrote the 2nd to lat one of mine
spies8chance 2:20 pm
:-P
spies8cory 2:21 pm
He seems to think I am a retard deep down inside
spies8chance 2:21 pm
nahhh.
spies8cory 2:21 pm
And that dying this episode will "prove" it to him
spies8chance 2:21 pm
:-P
spies8cory 2:21 pm
Lol whatever that means!
spies8chance 2:21 pm
you're not a retard.
spies8cory 2:21 pm
But apparently getting imprisoned shall prove it to him!
What riddle is this!
spies8chance 2:21 pm
??
spies8cory 2:21 pm
He riddles my mind, that Owen.
spies8chance 2:22 pm
i notice you're avoiding mentioning your most recent critique =-O
spies8cory 2:24 pm
I just responded to it Lol
spies8chance 2:24 pm
awh
spies8chance 2:28 pm
dick.
spies8cory 2:36 pm
This game is depressingly slow
spies8chance 2:36 pm
:-(
spies8cory 2:37 pm
Where the hell is everyone?
Cinnamyn hasn't been on in five fucking days
Dane four
Kiara five
spies8chance 2:39 pm
cinnamyn had a family emergency.
the other two, i dunno.
spies8cory 2:44 pm
Awohali's vote on Jenny in episode four was "tentative"
Any idea what his vote was about?
spies8chance 2:46 pm
not really. i think it was the whole fluffness factor.
spies8cory 2:52 pm
Lol even Rondak wants you out
There are Spies riding this wagon
spies8chance 2:53 pm
rondak does, huh?
interesting.
spies8cory 2:53 pm
(01:48:25 PM) spies8rondak: And getting rid of a distracting citizen would make the spy-finding tasks easier.
(01:48:45 PM) spies8rondak: However, that could work for only a couple more episodes before the spies start outnumbering the citizens.
(01:50:53 PM) spies8Cory: Who do you find to be distracting?
(01:51:47 PM) spies8rondak: Chance


spies8chance 2:54 pm
idiot.
spies8cory 2:54 pm
Or Spy.
spies8chance 2:55 pm
or both.
spies8cory 3:00 pm
Ya Rondak = Spy
If I had to guess I would shoot him with a vig bullet
Just his theories seem to line up with what I perceive to be the spy agenda here
These Spies are digging the Claude VS Chance fight
Because both are Cits
spies8chance 3:02 pm
possibly.
spies8chance 3:02 pm
so...
for - owen tina, cory, gertrude, ?mary?
against - claude, stephanie, broderick, awohali, jasmine, rondak
actually, put jasmine in ?s
spies8cory 3:03 pm
For an awohali exile?
spies8chance 3:03 pm
and to be quite honest it's not even a claude vs chance fight, it's claude tunneling me and me saying lolwhatever
and no, that's just afor/against me in general
spies8cory 3:04 pm
Even if you get nominated we should have a good shot of avoiding you getting exiled.
Mary should not be willing to vote you
So we currently control four out of five seats
Three out of five if Tina goes
Three out of six if someone wins who is against you
Three out of Seven if the Spies pick someone
spies8chance 3:06 pm
who was the main person behind the isaac exile?
spies8chance 3:06 pm
was it claude, or was it tina?
spies8cory 3:06 pm
A little of both
spies8chance 3:07 pm
if you had to pick one?
spies8cory 3:07 pm
not sure I can't really recall Tina's contributions
Claude posted his main case against him in the nomination / suspicion thread
Rondak is slimy
Trying to make me think you and Claude could be spies together. Lol.
I shot it down and he suddenly had to leave.
spies8chance 3:08 pm
hah.
want to know something interesting?
spies8cory 3:08 pm
What?
spies8chance 3:09 pm
twice in a row, awohali has been on the wagon most likely to rival a spy's.
jenny during the isaac lynch, and me during the magalie lynch.
spies8cory 3:10 pm
one thing making me second guess on Awohali is he was after her fairly early
Not sure how sincere his early attacks were
spies8chance 3:10 pm
jenny?
spies8cory 3:10 pm
He voted her e2, e3
magalie
spies8chance 3:10 pm
relatively safe votes, i'd say.
considering the republicans had control of exile 3.
spies8cory 3:10 pm
E3 for sure
spies8chance 3:17 pm
going to find every instance i can of hal agreeing with my defenses. have three so far.
spies8chance (1:47:33 PM):which is why it wouldn't surprise me if lilith was imprisoned next. Spies8Awohali (1:47:43 PM):Yes, I doubt that it came from Savannah. That is very interesting. Interesting indeed. Spies8Awohali (1:47:46 PM):Why Lilith? spies8chance (1:48:25 PM):she was very vocal about the fact that she /knew/ gabriel wasn't the doctor, before this came to light. and very reticent about explaining /how/ she knew. spies8chance (1:48:47 PM):well, just look at her posts in the vote thread about why she was going to vote allan. Spies8Awohali (1:49:16 PM):And they will most likely not like that. All of her posts are edited, so I have not seen what they truly said.
spies8chance 3:26 pm
also in episode three awohali was verrrry interested in the details of allan's roleclaim.
spies8cory 3:26 pm
Got examples of that?
Not necessarily spyish behavior
Depends
spies8chance 3:27 pm
Spies8Awohali: Allan roleclaimed? This is news to me.
Spies8Awohali: I have not heard this... Would someone mind a summary?
Spies8Awohali: Is there information of this role in the Burg? If so, I have missed it.
Spies8Awohali: If this portion of the chat could be posted for examining, I would greatly appreciate it.
spies8cory 3:28 pm
You'd think he'd have known about it if he was a spy
spies8chance 3:28 pm
[14:32] Spies8Awohali: Is it in the Republican forum?
spies8chance 3:32 pm
hehe, roleslip
[19:14] spies8gertrude: has joined the chat
[19:14] spies8chance: haha, speak of the devil.
spies8cory 3:32 pm
Nobody would know!
spies8chance 3:32 pm
it was in case i had to claim later, doofus. :-P
spies8cory 3:33 pm
That's called breadcrumb nubcake
spies8chance 3:33 pm
i'm aware, raptor boy
spies8cory 3:33 pm
The thing about Awohali and Allan's role is odd
spies8cory 3:34 pm
If he's a spy he'd no doubt have been clued in about the role by his spy partners over on the republican side.
spies8chance 3:34 pm
so maybe he went overboard to 'prove' he didn't know about it.
spies8chance 3:37 pm
awohali on isaac.
[15:40] Spies8Awohali: The main case seems to be that Jasmine hates him and Claude suspects him. I will admit that I have not paid very close attention to it during the past episode, since he was on the other team, but it was not very developed before the team switch.
[15:41] Spies8Awohali: Yes, it grew after the switch, but I did not pay close attention to it. During the chat, he was called out for voting Jasmine with Themba, despite stating that he also suspected Themba somewhat.
spies8chance 3:42 pm
[23:16] Spies8Awohali: Magalie, Chance. It makes no difference to Awohali. He would not mind seeing either of them go.
spies8chance 3:47 pm
awohali on magalie.
[00:59] Spies8Awohali: Honestly she should be removed from the game jsut for trying to work against Citizens, if she is a Citizen. Regardless of the information being false, it is a pathetic thing for her to try.
[01:01] spies8claude: I know everyone wants to lynch her 'on principle'
[01:02] spies8claude: But that is not a legitimate game strategy.
[01:02] spies8claude: Sam should just RFG her or something.
[01:03] Spies8Awohali: I agree, I would gladly lose a Citizen from our ranks if it means getting out a spiteful, useless player
[01:03] Spies8Awohali: But with legitimate suspects available, I do not think it is the ebst time to use an Exile on her.
spies8cory 3:48 pm
Bingo
[00:59] Spies8Awohali: Honestly she should be removed from the game jsut for trying to work against Citizens, if she is a Citizen. Regardless of the information being false, it is a pathetic thing for her to try.
spies8chance 3:48 pm
mhmm.
spies8cory 3:48 pm
This is bullshit
spies8chance 3:48 pm
yes, yes it is.
spies8cory 3:48 pm
Claude is the only one who thought Magalie would get modkilled
Nobody else believed that bullshit
spies8chance 3:48 pm
win?
i think so.
spies8chance 3:59 pm
hm.
do i call out stephanie and broderick in the same thread, or turn it into a case on awohali?
pondering.
thoughts?
spies8cory 4:00 pm
Hmm
Whatever you do
Don't make it a defensive post
Otherwise these scumbags will jump on you
spies8chance 4:01 pm
i'll pm you what i have so far. you can decide if it's 'defensive' or not.
spies8chance 4:02 pm
sent.
spies8cory 4:03 pm
change the end to make it more of a demand for his explanation
spies8cory 4:03 pm
Or alternatively you can try to trap him
ask him first
Wait for response
If his response contradicts those things he agrees with, nail him

[Chance]

with awohali -


Spies8Awohali is available 9:15 pm
spies8chance 9:15 pm
'sup hal.
Spies8Awohali 9:16 pm
Greetings, Chance.
spies8chance 9:16 pm
so i'm curious.
can i have your reasons for voting me, please?
Spies8Awohali 9:16 pm
You can indeed, though I am eating dinner, so they may not come rapidly
spies8chance 9:16 pm
okay.
Spies8Awohali 9:19 pm
I shall type between bites as I chew. Anyway, it begins, of course, in Episode one with the ordeal involving Cory/Tina and also Claude. I see no reason to explain that as it has been explained many times and we are both aware of it. Then, your disappearance in Episode 2. I realize you were unable to vote, but that is hardly a reason to stop hunting. You were also protected in Exile 2. I think an Exile protection role sounds more Spy-ish. Obviously that is my own opinion and can not be proven or even evidenced because it is complete speculation.
spies8chance 9:20 pm
i hardly think you can classify me as 'disappearing' in episode two. that's when i did most of my pushing for claude being a spy.
Spies8Awohali 9:22 pm
There is also the matter of Scum hunting. I am not aware of you having done a great deal of it. Your suspicions have often been sketchy beyond your top one or two, and they seem to change depending on what time of day you have been asked. I do not have specific examples at the moment, but I can supply them, though you should be aware. In terms of interrogating, you seem far more interested in why I suspect you rather than figuring out if you should suspect me, at least to my face.
spies8chance 9:23 pm
well, if it makes you feel any better, i wanted your reasons for voting me so i could blow them apart in the case i'm putting up against you tomorrow.
and as of right now, i can, so thanks for that.
Spies8Awohali 9:23 pm
That is an interesting plan, though I do not see how attempting to blow through steel with a lighter is a wise idea.
spies8chance 9:23 pm
steel, huh.
Spies8Awohali 9:23 pm
However, you are free to your own endeavors, of course.
spies8chance 9:24 pm
considering that you've agreed with every point i've made regarding your reasons for voting me, i hardly think your reasons now can hold much water.
in fact i blew apart your second reason already.
Spies8Awohali 9:24 pm
Could you cite proof of me agreeing with "Every" point?
I am always willing to agreee to the possibility of a point, when the point is possible. That does mean I find it likely to be true.
spies8chance 9:25 pm
considering that i've been through every group chat since the merge? yes, yes i can.
Spies8Awohali 9:25 pm
It is possible that you are in fact Ryan Seacrest roleplaying as Chance. I agree to that, yet I do not find it to be likely.
spies8chance 9:25 pm
let me ask you this, then.
do you think that i spread misinformation?
Spies8Awohali 9:26 pm
I know that you did Episode one. I am not aware of you doing so since then, at least not anything o great importance.
spies8chance 9:27 pm
are you referring to the case i made for cory/tina/claude being spies together?
or are you referring to mary?
Spies8Awohali 9:27 pm
The first one. We cleared the second one about Maryup.
spies8chance 9:28 pm
okay, so the first one, which has been retracted and nulled since about three days after it was made, and has since been dropped by everyone except for you, apparently, and claude (who will latch onto anything in order to suspect me)?
Spies8Awohali 9:29 pm
It was retracted, yes, but I would hardly consider it nulled, nor do I believe that it has been dropped by everyone else. Regardless of whether it was a mistake or not, you used it as evidence against Claude for the next two and a half episodes, despite it being you that convinced him of its initial veracity.
spies8chance 9:29 pm
and the fact that i no longer really consider claude to be a spy is something you've given no thought to?
Spies8Awohali 9:30 pm
You stopped considering him a Spy after the majority of the players in the game stopped considering him a viable lynch option. I can not see how that could be used as a point in your favor.
spies8chance 9:31 pm
you're implying that that's the reason i stopped considering him a spy, and you're wrong.
Spies8Awohali 9:31 pm
I do not imply that; I simply note that it is a possibility that I have to consider.
spies8chance 9:32 pm
in any case, the point boils down to that you agree with my defenses in public and yet you vote me anyway, putting me up as the mislynch to magalie, who turned out to be a spy.
you did the same thing with jenny when isaac was the spy.
Spies8Awohali 9:33 pm
Again, how have I agreed with your defenses publicly when I have steadily maintained publicly that I suspect you? I posted a summarized case on you in Episode 3, and have been forthright with people about you in AIM.
spies8chance 9:34 pm
if you really want quotes i have them on tap.
are you saying you haven't agreed with my defenses publically?
Spies8Awohali 9:34 pm
I voted for Magalie twice before she was Exiled; I was happy to see her gone. If you believe that I, as a Spy, would have any desire to protet Magalie, you are in great error. I saw her lynch as being Spy-led, so I did not join it last episode, and I still feel that it was Spy led and am fine for not voting for her.
Not in the capacity that you're trying to say it was.
spies8chance 9:35 pm
interesting. that's not your stated reason for not voting magalie.
Spies8Awohali 9:35 pm
I would be glad to see your examples so that I may correct you. And I ahve agreed fully on some points, but definitely not all.
spies8chance 9:35 pm
you've agreed with every point i've made in response to a question you've asked.
Spies8Awohali 9:35 pm
I did not wish to scare you and Jenny off
spies8chance 9:35 pm
i would consider that 'all'.
Spies8Awohali 9:36 pm
Refer to what I said earlier about the difference between agreeing that something is possible and agreeing that something simply "is".
spies8chance 9:36 pm
so the fact that you blatantly jumped onto claude's 'let sam take care of magalie, don't exile her' defense was a sham?
spies8chance (12:18:21 AM): which, as it happens, is the reason i voted magalie over someone like lawrence or zedekiah.
…
Spies8Awohali (12:20:11 AM): I can understand that. Sometimes, given the nominating situation, voting for a top suspect is not always the way to go.
Spies8Awohali 9:37 pm
No, if she was a Citizen, she should have been eliminated for horrendous sportsmanship.
spies8chance 9:37 pm
there was absolutely no chance that sam would modkill magalie.
Spies8Awohali 9:37 pm
You are not Sam, are you?
spies8chance 9:38 pm
oh, so you're going to call me out on an absolute, but not claude?
but in any case, magalie broke no rules.
sam had no cause for modkilling her.
so yes, i can safely say that magalie would not have been modkilled by sam.
Spies8Awohali 9:38 pm
Claude's stance that Magalie could not have been a Citizen was clearly ridiculous
spies8chance 9:39 pm
so you thought she was a spy, but didn't want to exile her.
Spies8Awohali 9:39 pm
You should already know the falsehood of that statement evidenced by my two previous votes for her.
spies8chance 9:40 pm
episode two you had claude the citizen casemaker going after margot. it was safe enough for you to vote for magalie then.
episode three was even safer considering the republicans had control of the exile.
and yet twice now, when a spy could be lynched, you're found on the opposing wagon.
i find it very hard to believe that this is a coincidence.
Spies8Awohali 9:41 pm
And you truly believe that I, as a Spy, would not want to finally cash in on my Magalie suspicions by voting her the episode she was eliminated?
Spies8Awohali 9:48 pm
If you can not answer that, how about a general question: Do you think it more likely that the Spies would want to protect Magalie, or get credit for getting rid of her?
spies8chance 9:48 pm
oh, i wasn't aware you asked a question. my window didn't blink.
after losing isaac i don't think you'd be so hasty to lose another partner, no.
and given that the spies had the gall to make her a senate voter.... i don't know.
perhaps the spies thought she'd slide through as crazy lurker bitch.
Spies8Awohali 9:51 pm
That is quite all right. And Cory and I discussed this situation earlier today,a ctually.
spies8chance 9:51 pm
bah, i don't even know what to think about cory.
he's very attractive, but that's about all i have on him.
Spies8Awohali 9:51 pm
Their move makes sense; nominate her and hope that a few Citizens think that she is getting framed. Meanwhile, bus her. If she is eliminated, the Spies look good for eliminating her and have Citizens to go after. If she remains, the Spies have a vote in the Senate.
spies8chance 9:52 pm
i don't know.
Spies8Awohali 9:53 pm
It is only speculation, but it makes sense to me.
spies8awohali is offline