Episode #9 Confessionals

[Lawrence]

Firstly, I apologize about the lack of confessional posts for episode 8. I was away two days, and I never got motivated to get caught up. Anyways, last round was excellent. No Spies got nominated, Jenny got Exiled, and now the Burg is confused. Spies love confusion. We can manipulate it to our advantage.

The Impeachment challenge is a sticky situation. We don't want Hambone to lose his vote, but I can't think of a convincing Citizen reason to give the vote to him. I have no choice but to support Jasmine here. Hambone losing his vote, however, is not the end of the world (though he certainly will be angry about it.) Even though I believe Hambone will have to be Exiled because of the twist and sheer numbers (someone will figure out that Hambone is a Spy based on the game not ending), we will still be able to pull out the win. I have a feeling that, though we are in a favorable position, the four of us will not win this game alive. We may win it with a smaller number than four, but busses will have to be made. Can't be helped.

This round, we are going to Imprison Owen. He is a safe choice for Imprisonment. Honestly, I feel bad for the guy having to go to extremes to play the game, so I think it will help him out to be bout, although that's not exactly why we're doing it. He's basically a saint based on voting record, and he's not Exileable.

[Lawrence]

Things are definitely looking up. When I sign on this morning, I see a case that Chance has posted on Jasmine. This gives me the reasoning I need to start posting for Hambone to get his vote back. Our victory will be much easier to obtain once he has a vote. Predictably, Jasmine was upset about people campaigning against her. However, when I talked to her on AIM, she seemed to trust me. I agreed with her suspicions, we talked over several things, and I have said I will look into Claude (something I was already planning on doing.)

I think that a case on Claude could work very well strategically. I would gain Citizen points for posting a case, it would take suspicion off of Cinnamyn and Mary for a bit (both are beginning to creep up on scum lists), and get another Citizen hopefully Exiled. Even if my plans fail, players who make cases are not generally suspected. Look at Jason's case on Yvette, for example. Or Cinnamyn's case on Awohali.

[Lawrence]

Broderick, I bid you adieu.

You were putting forth one of the best efforts in the Burg, for that I applaud you. For that, you also had to die. I know in my previous post I said Owen was doomed, but plans changed, and Mary presented logical arguments as to why Broderick was the play. This episode, I believe, is where I will make a play for great rewards. Tomorrow I plan on putting together a case on Claude. If my arguments are rational enough, I can probably swing the Exile onto him. Then, Citizens who bounce off of the suspicions (most likely Stephanie, Rondak) will become suspected. Chance supporting the case (which he will) will also play into "one member of the role group must be a Spy." It shall be an interesting episode, one where I hopefully can make my first real power play as a Spy (and, could be argued, my first real power play in three seasons of Spies. -_-)

[Lawrence]

I posted my case on Claude earlier today. It is not nearly as dramatic/eloquent as I hoped it would be, but it gets the job done. All of my points are valid from a Citizen perspective. I'm hoping this can take the heat off of Cinnamyn unnoticeably. I believe that Stephanie, Jasmine, and Chance all trust me to some degree, and will defend me for posting this case. Stephanie and Chance will both probably vote with me on this case, and I could garner support from others with well-reasoned arguments. I told Cinnamyn not to actively support the case so as not to make this chainsaw defense obvious.

If this goes well, we are easily in line to win this game.

[Lawrence]

I think my case on Claude is going to make people consider him in a way in which they may not have done so before. I know that Kiara was previously suspicious of Claude, but I believe this chat shows that my case has the potential to be successful.

spies8lawrence (2:33:02 PM): Good afternoon Kiara
spies8kiara (2:33:20 PM): hey lawrence whats up?
spies8lawrence (2:33:58 PM): Taking it easy
spies8lawrence (2:34:12 PM): I used the morning to investigate someone, kind of taking a break to chat on AIM
spies8kiara (2:35:16 PM): im planning on going over old stuff myself today, just a matter of motivating myself lol. havent accomlished anything at all today, lazy all around lol
spies8lawrence (2:35:17 PM): Yourself?
spies8lawrence (2:35:28 PM): It is difficult to motivate yourself.
spies8lawrence (2:35:40 PM): Especially on an internet game. The internet is the king of all distractions.
spies8kiara (2:36:30 PM): lol well im in total lazy mode. ive also been trying to get myself to do some laudry, but have yet to succeed. im real tired for some reason
spies8lawrence (2:36:47 PM): Lazy summer afternoon, its understandable.
spies8kiara (2:38:10 PM): so, what are your thoughts on current events? im not sure what surprises me more, awohali lying, jenny being a cit, or broderick getting imprisoned
spies8lawrence (2:38:42 PM): I'd say Broderick getting Imprisoned is the most shocking of the three, although none are expected.
spies8kiara (2:39:20 PM): my jaw dropped on that one
spies8lawrence (2:40:09 PM): I was expecting either Chance or Owen to get hit
spies8kiara (2:41:22 PM): i thought chance was a sure bet
spies8lawrence (2:42:15 PM): What are you thinking about the upcoming Exile?
spies8kiara (2:43:49 PM): if i were to rank everyone, dane, owen, rondak, claude, and jasmine would be at the top though not in that order. if i had to vote right now, itd probably be claude, but thats could change if i find a stronger reason for someone else. like i said im planning on reviewing a lot of stuff today
spies8lawrence (2:44:17 PM): Funnily enough, the person I went over today was Claude
spies8kiara (2:44:42 PM): any revealations?
spies8lawrence (2:44:56 PM): I will be very surprised if he is a Citizen
spies8lawrence (2:45:30 PM): spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=burg&thread=1483&page=1#9466
spies8lawrence (2:46:56 PM): I know my thoughts are kind of randomly placed throughout the post, but I believe he is probably a criminal
spies8lawrence (2:48:20 PM): Any thoughts?
spies8kiara (2:49:47 PM): i agree with it a lot. though i may be able to answer one part. he has to use all 3 aspects of his role before he can reuse them. taking cinn's vote away may have been his only option so he couldnt limit her the way he did owen. but i dont know what he did with his role since limiting owen so idk if thats true or not
spies8lawrence (2:50:12 PM): Ah, thank you
spies8lawrence (2:50:30 PM): I did not know if the role worked like that, or a quota of uses for each ability, or he got to choose how he used it.
spies8lawrence (2:50:57 PM): I know he said he "forgot" to use his role the round after the Zedekiah exile, and I believe he forgot during the Jenny exile round too.
spies8lawrence (2:51:02 PM): *"Forgot"
spies8kiara (2:51:06 PM): thats the impression im under anyway
spies8kiara (2:51:30 PM): he forogt?
spies8lawrence (2:51:51 PM): Yes
spies8lawrence (2:51:56 PM): I find that strange
spies8kiara (2:51:56 PM): hmm
spies8kiara (2:52:02 PM): that is odd
spies8lawrence (2:52:17 PM): It seems like a role ability is something you would be more apt to remember than conversations or something like that
spies8lawrence (2:52:24 PM): Speaking of that, what did you learn from your role this round?
spies8kiara (2:52:57 PM): with no real good options, i used it on margot. no role, but didnt expect one
spies8lawrence (2:53:43 PM): It's understandable
spies8kiara (2:55:50 PM): i believe claude nominated isaac in the vote fog round, which thinking about it i find very odd considering his constant tunneling of chance
spies8lawrence (2:58:21 PM): In addition to everything I posted
spies8lawrence (2:58:30 PM): Odds are there is a criminal in the role group
spies8lawrence (2:58:35 PM): He's a prime candidate
spies8kiara (2:58:41 PM): agreed on both counts
spies8lawrence (3:01:22 PM): Honestly, the thing I find most suspicious of him
spies8lawrence (3:01:33 PM): Is the lack of effort
spies8lawrence (3:01:43 PM): Chance was his "safe suspicion," I believe
spies8lawrence (3:01:50 PM): And now he's just bandwagoning
spies8kiara (3:04:17 PM): chance was great for him, an easy vote without having to justify it. shit started to fall apart for the role group when awohali got his vote back because with him and steph voting chance, there was a possibility he could actually go. i think thats what lead to the charge against awohali. and if thats the case, it looks scummy for those who pushed hardest for him
spies8lawrence (3:05:04 PM): That's an interesting viewpoint
spies8lawrence (3:05:41 PM): Hmm. . . very interesting
spies8kiara (3:08:11 PM): his voters that round were cinn, rondak, and owen (plus gert and chance), all 3 of whom are not above suspicion by any mean. though im actually a bit surprised mary strade away from gert and chance and voted jenny instead, ill have to ask her about that
spies8lawrence (3:10:32 PM): Just based on my suspicion of Claude, I believe Cinnamyn isn't as likely to be a criminal, though she is shady.
spies8lawrence (3:10:52 PM): Rondak could be a lazy replacement, but his activity is not where it should be whatsoever.
spies8lawrence (3:10:59 PM): And the longer Owen lives
spies8lawrence (3:11:06 PM): The more suspicious he becomes
spies8lawrence (3:12:19 PM): Not sure what to make of Mary's vote without hearing her rationale for it
spies8kiara (3:12:57 PM): i dont like the lazy replacement idea, though. you, me, and lilith all manage just fine. i dont think sam would have filled his replacement list with people he thought would need replacing
spies8lawrence (3:13:18 PM): There are always disappointments
spies8lawrence (3:13:31 PM): I don't think he casted our predecessors thinking they would be replaces
spies8lawrence (3:13:33 PM): *replaced
spies8kiara (3:14:02 PM): no no, obviously. im saying i dont think he would pick people to be replacement if they were 'lazy'
spies8lawrence (3:14:22 PM): Oh no, I'm not saying Rondak is intentionally being lazy
spies8lawrence (3:14:37 PM): He may just not have the right mindset for replacing someone
spies8lawrence (3:14:41 PM): Or he may be busy in real life
spies8lawrence (3:14:54 PM): Not contributing isn't exactly a scumtell, I don't think
spies8kiara (3:15:10 PM): true
spies8lawrence (3:44:52 PM): I must leave for the small town festival
spies8lawrence (3:44:56 PM): I will be on later this evening though
spies8lawrence (3:45:00 PM): Have a good afternoon, Kiara

[Lawrence]

This is the most paranoid I've been at an Exile, but I think Dane's stupidity may save us. If the votes fall wrong and Cinnamyn ends up Exiled, I look absolutely horrible for leading basically a chainsaw defense against her by attacking Claude. My reasoning on Claude is still solid, but you can't argue against a flip. According to the official Spy HQ running vote count, myself, Stephanie, Kiara, and Chance are all voting for Claude. This is opposed by Claude, Rondak, and Owen voting for Cinnamyn. Dane is on Rondak. Mary and Hambone are undecided. Cinnamyn and Jasmine can't vote.

Actually, this is pretty bad. Even with Dane moving to Rondak, if Mary decides to bus Cinnamyn (which I fear she is planning on doing), then Cinnamyn gets Exiled (unless Hambone votes for Claude, which is doubtful). This may just be a tied Exile, if Hambone goes Rondak and Mary goes Cinnamyn, in which it would all come down to a tense revote. Of course, Owen brought up a good point on Claude not being a Spy. However, I would look bad if I am persuaded by it.

[Lawrence]

Stephanie going off of Cinnmyn means the support is no longer there. I am bussing Cinnamyn now. I just hope this isn't too obvious of a slide-on vote. My post I believe is convincing enough.

On a side note, if we can get Dane to defend Cinnamyn based on my vote for her, he will look quite bad.