Episode 5 - Converastions
Jul 10, 2010 2:18:32 GMT -6
Post by Claude on Jul 10, 2010 2:18:32 GMT -6
I guess that there will be many more of these this time around(though I don't know how much I'll talk to Chance or Kiara).
Mary:
spies8mary 11:57 pm
Hi.
spies8claude 11:58 pm
It's Mary.
spies8mary 11:58 pm
You must be relieved.
spies8claude 11:58 pm
I am!
Relieved that you are alive, and that I am.
I was sure that one of us was getting dead.
spies8mary 11:59 pm
Yes.
spies8claude 11:59 pm
Do you think you're going to help me lynch Chance today, Mary?
He really deserves it.
spies8mary 11:59 pm
I only got to tell Owen half of the things I wanted to this afternoon.
spies8claude 11:59 pm
Well, now you can tell him the other half. :-P
spies8mary 11:59 pm
So I'm really glad they picked Lilith.
spies8claude 12:00 am
That one is confusing
spies8mary 12:00 am
Do you trust Owen? I may have asked you this before.
spies8claude 12:00 am
Apparently they thought she was the Doc, based on some conversation.
I think I do.
He was voting Isaac yesterday.
spies8mary 12:00 am
Only two Spies are gone, right?
spies8claude 12:00 am
yeah
2 down, 5 to go.
spies8mary 12:01 am
I have seen Spies in this series go all the way after busing the first two Spies.
spies8claude 12:01 am
yeah
spies8mary 12:01 am
I don't think Owen could fool me, but you never know.
spies8mary 12:01 am
There are a few very clever people in this bunch. Not many, but a few.
spies8claude 12:02 am
I agree.
I don't know whether or not Owen is one of them.
spies8mary 12:02 am
He is.
We should do a group chat of people we pretty much trust.
spies8claude 12:03 am
I like that idea.
spies8mary 12:03 am
I think it would be helpful.
spies8claude 12:03 am
Except I don't know how many people that includes right now.
spies8mary 12:03 am
I know you don't trust Tina much.
You seem to go less on gut than I do.
spies8claude 12:03 am
She's grown on me some.
spies8mary 12:03 am
The evidence on her is bad.
spies8claude 12:04 am
I don't like that she bailedo n the Alexei wagon, but it could be an honest mistake.
spies8mary 12:04 am
But her cases seem good.
spies8claude 12:04 am
I don't think there is any other evidence.
spies8mary 12:05 am
Tina went after Themba for the whole "giving up" thing.
She made it too strong a piece of evidence in the Themba case, I think.
spies8claude 12:05 am
Ahhh.
I've been guilty of that before.
spies8mary 12:06 am
I don't think people who push cases and are wrong are scummy unless you find specific evidence that was interpreted intentionally the "bad" way.
That is why I am so strongly against Chance.
I have seen him use neutral or innocent evidence the "bad" way so many times.
spies8claude 12:07 am
Exactly
I feel the same way
But it's so hard to show examples of it
Because he always has some obscure 'other meaning' for it.
Also, the way he pushed on Lilith looks really bad now
spies8mary 12:08 am
I skimmed a chat from last night where he was like a little dog yapping at Awohali.
spies8claude 12:08 am
that too
spies8claude 12:08 am
Seems like he's just trying to push anywhere that isn't him.
spies8mary 12:09 am
Cinnamyn seemed to be continuing her protection of him tonight. I need to read her post again.
spies8claude 12:09 am
You noticed that too, eh?
spies8mary 12:11 am
The first question is a softball.
"Chance, do you find Magalie and Jasmine unhelpful?"
The second point is copied from me.
The third question, no one knows the answer for sure and it's not really relevant to alignment.
The fourth question is not really indicative of alignment. "Why were you mean to Awohali?"
spies8mary 12:13 am
Weak overall post.
spies8claude 12:14 am
Where are these questions?
spies8mary 12:15 am
Topic: shizz
You already replied to it.
spies8claude 12:16 am
Oh that.
I wish people understood what OMGUS really means
spies8mary 12:16 am
You're relatively confirmed town and she asks you eight questions in an effort to figure out your alignment?
And then asks Chance 4 softballs.
spies8claude 12:17 am
She told me she is leaning toward chance being a Spy.
spies8mary 12:17 am
When did this happen?
spies8claude 12:18 am
Earlier in private chat
spies8claude 12:18 am
But it felt like a 'hedging my bets' kind of thing
spies8mary 12:19 am
One of my notes on her is about her changes of opinion regarding Chance. And you, for that matter.
"im startin' 2 think dat u 2 iz both citz."
spies8claude 12:20 am
I remember that.
spies8mary 12:20 am
No reasoning.
spies8mary 12:21 am
If she's suspicious of Chance with reasons, that's notable.
spies8claude 12:21 am
Let's have a look at what she said
It's worth noting that, while we were having this conversation, she made NO mention of her 'shizz' post to me.
spies8claude 12:23 am
she said she's mainly suspicious of hambone
which seems like such a weak vote
spies8mary 12:23 am
That's her main suspect?
Valid point, actually.
spies8claude 12:26 am
What's a valid point?
She said she's suspicious of hambone because of his tunnel vision on Jenny
And of Magalie
Which I feel is the ultimate cop out vote right now
spies8mary 12:27 am
There is so much information from this exile.
spies8claude 12:27 am
I know right
I almost don't know where to start analyzing it.
spies8mary 12:28 am
I want to press on it from the top down. Chance, Gertrude, Jasmine, Lawrence, Magalie from direct interactions I've seen.
Jasmine being cleared by the interactions, the others looking worse.
Broderick argues that Jasmine could have been bussing.
Having been there exile 2, I think Jasmine's reactions were totally natural.
spies8claude 12:30 am
Broderick thinks I might be bussing too
spies8mary 12:30 am
What?
spies8claude 12:30 am
I think he just doesn't want to trust people.
He gave that impression yesterday
spies8claude 12:30 am
When I said that I thought I stood a good chance of getting Imprisoned, because the Spies will never be able to mislynch me now.
spies8mary 12:31 am
Ok. Isaac totally handled people differently.
spies8claude 12:31 am
I know right.
spies8mary 12:31 am
He wanted you and Jasmine exiled, in my opinion.
He wanted to LOOK like he suspected Chance.
"Isaac attacked Jasmine for not reading Chance's attack on Claude."
spies8claude 12:32 am
I thought that whole bit was hugely indicative of a relationship between Chance and Isaac
spies8mary 12:32 am
Try different combinations there and see what makes sense to you.
spies8mary 12:33 am
Spy attacked Spy for not reading a Spy's attack on a Cit.
spies8claude 12:33 am
lol..right
spies8mary 12:39 am
What is your big picture case on Chance?
spies8claude 12:39 am
I don't even know how to tie it all together anymore.
spies8mary 12:39 am
I think mine would be a combination of:
He's manipulative and not in an honest way.
spies8claude 12:40 am
He's just going to say 'provide examples'
So much of it is just that the core of his play seems dodgy.
spies8mary 12:40 am
His suspects are terribly reasoned and not solid.
spies8claude 12:40 am
Oh, you mean that trying to make a case on me for something that was a mistake on his part was bad of him? Who knew.
eyes:
spies8mary 12:40 am
And he and Isaac were weird about each other.
spies8claude 12:40 am
Yeah.
He just ignored Isaac
Which is honestly what I would expect from an experienced scum that had a novice scum latch onto them.
spies8claude 12:41 am
Like I told him yesterday..his case on me was laughably bad, and plenty of people said as much
But Isaac still tried to run with it anyway.
That should have given Chance pause, but it didn't
spies8mary 12:42 am
Has Chance's case on you matured?
Or is it all based on day one evidence?
Because that's a hallmark of scum.
spies8claude 12:43 am
It definitely hasn't, from what I can tell.
spies8mary 12:43 am
Latch on D1 and fail to reevaluate based on each day's information.
spies8claude 12:43 am
yeah
spies8mary 12:44 am
Devil's advocate, is there anything pro-Cit about Chance?
spies8claude 12:44 am
I've tried to look for anything
And I couldn't find it..which is probably bad on my part
But even his defense of Camilla seems bad to me
I just don't see a citizen putting their neck on the line to defend an unknown
spies8mary 12:45 am
I was watching and I didn't think Camilla was acting Citizenish.
spies8mary 12:46 am
I think in retrospect you pushed her into a corner and she reacted overdefensively.
spies8claude 12:46 am
yeah
She played poorly, and I saw it as her playing scummily
I have that problem sometimes.
I just hate giving people a pass for bad play, because it's such an easy way for scum to hide.
spies8mary 12:47 am
Why do you want to give Magalie a pass?
spies8claude 12:47 am
I don't feel like I have a legitimate behavior read on her
I think she is just a fucking idiot, and that would be the case regardless of alignment
Some of the stuff she has told us..I just can't believe a Spy would say.
spies8mary 12:48 am
Rondak is someone we can question and get information from his reactions.
spies8claude 12:48 am
Yeah
spies8mary 12:48 am
Magalie, I get next to nothing from each talk.
spies8claude 12:48 am
Exactly.
I plan to talk to Rondak if I ever see him around.
spies8claude 12:50 am
I didn't even realize that Cinnamyn posed so many questions to me
jesus christ
Gertrude[/size]
spies8claude 9:02 pm
Good evening Gertrude
spies8gertrude 9:02 pm
Quota filling, I see.
Hey.
spies8claude 9:03 pm
lol
You caught me.
spies8gertrude 9:03 pm
I try.
What's on your mind?
spies8claude 9:04 pm
I dunno
Who are you looking at as suspects these days?
spies8gertrude 9:05 pm
I'd say Rondak is the biggest one for me.
spies8claude 9:05 pm
He's top 3 for me as well.
spies8gertrude 9:05 pm
I remember.
You told me earlier
Chance, Rondak, Kiara.
spies8claude 9:06 pm
Oh okay.
Yeah
spies8gertrude 9:06 pm
Though I would assume Kiara moved to number 2 by now.
spies8claude 9:06 pm
Astute observation on your part.
spies8gertrude 9:07 pm
Mm.
You are not a difficult man to predict.
spies8claude 9:07 pm
It's true.
spies8gertrude 9:08 pm
I see that I've moved down for you.
Or, I would assume so.
spies8claude 9:09 pm
Yeah
spies8gertrude 9:09 pm
Considering I was one of three choices for Allan yesterday.
spies8claude 9:09 pm
You were never getting lynched yesterday anyway, I just had to pick 3.
I didn't even use that ability today.
spies8gertrude 9:10 pm
Right, right.
What I was leading to, though, was why have I slid down?
spies8claude 9:10 pm
I dunno
You didn't really do much to begin with
It was more a lack of participation than anything else
spies8gertrude 9:11 pm
I understand.
Lots of time online, not so many points made.
spies8claude 9:11 pm
yeah, that exactly.
spies8gertrude 9:11 pm
I've been working on that. I hope it shows.
spies8claude 9:12 pm
Last night was very amusing.
spies8gertrude 9:12 pm
Ha.
spies8claude 9:12 pm
You were a big hit.
spies8gertrude 9:12 pm
I'm glad you thought so.
Stick around and there may be an encore performance tonight.
spies8claude 9:12 pm
Awesome
spies8gertrude 9:12 pm
Maybe. I don't want to overdo it.
spies8claude 9:13 pm
Gotta keep people wanting more eh
spies8gertrude 9:13 pm
Well, I just don't want it to become a "eh, another one." kinda thing.
spies8gertrude 9:17 pm
I noticed we had just gotten to the 15 minute mark. Does that mean we are done?
spies8claude 9:17 pm
What do you think of Kiara anyway
Naw
Unless you want us to be done
sniffle
spies8gertrude 9:18 pm
Never!
spies8claude 9:18 pm
chuckle
spies8gertrude 9:18 pm
I'm not sure what I think about Kiara.
I don't think you have too much on her, though.
spies8claude 9:18 pm
I don't either.
I feel like knowing either Rondak or Chance's alignment would shed some light on her.
spies8gertrude 9:19 pm
Mmm.
Hopefully Rondak's. Ha.
I know you feel otherwise.
spies8claude 9:19 pm
Eh
I wouldn't be terribly disappointed if it was Rondak
spies8gertrude 9:19 pm
I'm glad you're keeping your mind open, then.
spies8claude 9:19 pm
Well
then I would just want it to be chance the next day :-P
spies8gertrude 9:20 pm
Right.
Of course.
I would expect nothing less.
spies8claude 9:28 pm
I would hate to disappoint
Stephanie[/size]
spies8stephanie 7:29 pm
hi claude
are you relieved to still be here?
spies8claude 7:34 pm
I am!
I was pretty sure I was dying, especially when it was down to 7 people.
spies8stephanie 7:35 pm
i was more worried about tina, but have to agree i thought you were in grave danger
spies8claude 7:35 pm
And Mary..she is largely viewed as town and has a vote right now
Lilith getting killed is very informative, I think.
spies8stephanie 7:35 pm
but might have protection
spies8claude 7:35 pm
Someone REALLY believed she was the Doc.
spies8stephanie 7:36 pm
no one could be that naive, could they?
spies8claude 7:36 pm
Apparently.
spies8stephanie 7:37 pm
i've looked thru my chats with her
but not the main chat logs
and i'm stumped
spies8claude 7:38 pm
Apparently it was some conversation in the main chat.
So I guess I'll have to suffer through finding it
And see whom was there at the time.
spies8stephanie 7:38 pm
and there is soooo much stuff to look thru
spies8claude 7:38 pm
I agree :-(
I'm starting to see what Lilith saw in you. She said you were very innocent.
spies8stephanie 7:39 pm
i was there when somebody said that gabe had claimed to allan
spies8stephanie 7:39 pm
i might be able to find that
cause i said wtf, that can't be true
spies8claude 7:42 pm
That was the whole fake messenger bit or w/e?
spies8stephanie 7:43 pm
yeah that came out just a little bit later
but for a while i was screaming no gabe did not claim to allan
spies8claude 7:44 pm
Honestly, the idea that there is a scum version of that role is so weird.
spies8stephanie 7:44 pm
i don't think so
spies8claude 7:44 pm
It's such an obscure role though, to have it on both sides..I dunno
spies8claude 7:44 pm
I guess I can see the dynamic to everyone trying to figure out which messages are good.
spies8stephanie 7:46 pm
ok it's at midnight cdt on july 5th
(11:59:58 PM) spies8lilith: I just read something
(12:00:08 AM) spies8lilith: Chance says that Allan confirmed that Gabriel was the doctor??
spies8claude 7:49 pm
And that's it?
spies8stephanie 7:49 pm
no no
spies8claude 7:49 pm
I was going to say..you've got to be kidding me
spies8stephanie 7:51 pm
spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=burg&thread=822&post=4713
or not
spies8claude 7:52 pm
?
spies8stephanie 7:53 pm
scroll down it looks like 1:00 jenny's time
sure looks like it points to chance once again
spies8claude 7:55 pm
Shocking!
...
not really
I found something else interesting.
spies8claude 7:55 pm
When Owen is talking about why he suspects Isaac, Kiara says:
[23:19] spies8kiara: but owen, wasnt part of the reason why you voted isaac was the possible scum slip with themba?
That is a big sneaky-defense of deadspyisaac
spies8stephanie 7:56 pm
huh?
idk, i asked owen same thing
spies8claude 7:57 pm
Sometimes it's all in how you word things
spies8stephanie 7:57 pm
right after themba left
spies8claude 7:57 pm
The way that is worded, it reads like she is trying to lessen Owen's suspicions
How did you word it?
spies8stephanie 7:58 pm
idk, something like do you think this clears isaac now that themba has flipped cit
spies8claude 7:58 pm
I'll have to look it up
Could just be nothing, I suppose.
spies8stephanie 7:58 pm
i was a little pissed off with him for voting themba instead of mags
spies8claude 7:58 pm
haha
spies8stephanie 7:59 pm
[01:06] spies8lilith: Gabe was not the doctor. Allan is doing something fishy.
[01:06] spies8lilith: What?
[01:06] spies8chance: well, one of allan or lilith is a liar, then.
spies8claude 7:59 pm
And for the last 2 days, Chance has pushed on lilith whenever possible.
Man I hope he gets lynched.
spies8stephanie 8:00 pm
hell chance has pushed on e1 possible
and then some
spies8claude 8:00 pm
lol
spies8claude 8:03 pm
Kiara is tied to everyone I think is scum.
fascinating
Like this:
[23:36] spies8kiara: wasnt it steph who suspect rondak early on because he didnt know what bussing ment? it was a real dumb reason imo. and lilith was having a crazy hard time keeping people straight, like she couldnt remember who was on what team. that seems more like acting dumb to me, which i find worrisome
That reads as a subtle defense of Rondak to me, and is such a bad reason for her to be 'suspicious' of you and Lilith
spies8stephanie 8:04 pm
kiara's been on my watch list since i first saw her as new kiara
spies8claude 8:05 pm
Ahhh
I forgot that she replaced
spies8stephanie 8:05 pm
coming into the game with like a couple of hours to exile
spies8stephanie 8:05 pm
and told her i was voting savannah
i think that was the right exile
and told her themba was cit
and spelled out for her in excruciating detail why i thought themba was cit
and then she voted themba
spies8claude 8:06 pm
lol
Maybe she just didn't agree with you?
spies8stephanie 8:07 pm
yep, which is why she just went on the watch list and not on the spy list
Broderick[/size]
spies8claude 8:21 pm
I suppose I'll just talk to everyone
spies8broderick 8:21 pm
lol Hi Claude
spies8claude 8:23 pm
I don't really mind talking to you anyway, you're still pretty town to me.
spies8broderick 8:24 pm
I though I moved to your second tier?
spies8claude 8:24 pm
Yeah, but I still think you're town
Just not as sure as I was before?
Who are you looking at as suspects today anyway?
spies8broderick 8:26 pm
lol. Well I realized that I've voted Jasmine the last three ep's, and that is rather tunneling.
spies8claude 8:26 pm
It happens to the best of us.
I don't think Jasmine/Isaac was a bussing type of event.
spies8broderick 8:27 pm
lol well yah. but im surprised no one called me on it. I hadnt even realized it myself, til i was trying to think who i voted for the second ep, and i was like wtf. Jasmine three times in a row?!
So with that realization, also that she seems to be looking town for a lot of other epople, for reasons i fail to see.
spies8broderick 8:28 pm
I'm going to look more indepth at Gertrude, Chance, Cory maybe, and attempt to compile all stances from people on Isaac, and stances on people made by Isaac
See if that gets me anywhere
spies8claude 8:29 pm
That sounds sensible.
I'm starting to get bad vibes from Kiara and Rondak
spies8broderick 8:29 pm
Kiara is a big lurker for me.
Why bad vibes on those two?
spies8claude 8:30 pm
I feel like Kiara subtlely defended Isaac to Owen the other day
spies8claude 8:31 pm
Plus, her 'insight' on the vote fog ability really does read as inside info, as Cory said.
spies8broderick 8:33 pm
What did she say to Owen, and what do you mean what cory said?
spies8claude 8:33 pm
Let me just find the thread.
or threads
Kiara:
so i got a theory on this. what if the ability to hide who voted whom was isaacs ability? he knew he was going, so he figured better to use it than waste it? the spies as a whole didnt want to move their votes around too much because it could hurt them later on when more people have had their alignments revealed. isaac (bein the unknown voter at the time) slaps his vote onto steph pulling her into the top three and taking out claude and rondak. much confusion and speculation occurs over why the spies would do such a thing, and the only person who could be caught in a lie for switching their vote is the one gettin exiled anyway.
Cory:
Lots of guessing there, Kiara. You wouldn't happen to have inside knowledge on any of this, would you?
spies8broderick 8:34 pm
lol. How would he know he was going?
spies8claude 8:34 pm
He just gave up is what I think she was saying
Owen had been voting him the day before, and plenty of people were suspicious of him
It wasn't surprising that he got lynched.
spies8broderick 8:35 pm
True. That would imply he fabricated a family member dying.
I just cant think of any decent person who would do that
spies8claude 8:35 pm
Ah, nah.
I can't believe that someone would lie about that.
If anything, it may have played into why he just gave up though.
spies8broderick 8:36 pm
So gave up before he left?
spies8claude 8:36 pm
The other part(Kiara defending Isaac) is:
When Owen is talking about why he suspects Isaac, Kiara says:
[23:19] spies8kiara: but owen, wasnt part of the reason why you voted isaac was the possible scum slip with themba?
That is a big sneaky-defense of deadspyisaac
spies8broderick 8:37 pm
It cant be considered a scumslip anymore, since Themba isn't a spy
spies8claude 8:37 pm
Right.
That's not what I was saying; sorry.
I just feel like the way Kiara put that was trying to deflate Owen's suspicions of Isaac
spies8broderick 8:38 pm
ahh K.
Who did she vote for?
spies8claude 8:39 pm
I guess she nominated me.
spies8claude 8:40 pm
I find that to be a little off, considering that she didn't know anything about me at all, and there were plenty of people from her team that should have expressed some idea of suspicion towards
But meh.
spies8broderick 8:41 pm
I think the last time I chatted with her, back before the merge. She was a bit suspect of Lilith
WB
spies8claude 8:47 pm
Thanks
spies8broderick 8:59 pm
Huh
spies8claude 8:59 pm
?
spies8broderick 9:00 pm
tuesday june 29th right before midnight CST time. So i'td tech be about 50 minutes past the start of wednesday june 20th
spies8claude 9:00 pm
That was awhile ago..what happened?
spies8broderick 9:00 pm
well, of the old republicans the ones who worry me the most would be themba and stephanie, with honorable mentions from dane and tina. from you new guys it would be lawrence, but thats mostly second hand information
Themba and Stephanie worry Kiara the most. With minors on Dane and Tina. OrigReps.
spies8claude 9:01 pm
lol
spies8broderick 9:01 pm
about 21 hours later
spies8broderick 9:01 pm
themba, dane, lawrernce. even steph and tina a bit.
stephanie is a minor, not a major any more
spies8claude 9:01 pm
and lawrence has moved up
spies8broderick 9:02 pm
dane is a major and not a minor
spies8claude 9:02 pm
that too
Dane, whom was obvtown after his interactions with Alexei
So the ones that she wasn't suspicious of were..Rondak and Jenny?
spies8broderick 9:03 pm
Huh?
spies8claude 9:03 pm
She didn't express any suspicion towards Rondak or Jenny, right?
spies8broderick 9:04 pm
Kiara also suspected Lilith at the time too
Don't believe so
Though they were on the opposite team, so probably wasnt going to mention them
spies8claude 9:04 pm
So she suspected a bunch of people that we either now KNOW are tonw, or, can reasonably believe to be so?
Ahhh okay.
That's fair.
spies8broderick 9:06 pm
I huh'd it, cus they switched around in less than 24 hours
spies8claude 9:06 pm
Yeah
Shows a lack of consistency..like she remembered the people she was claiming to be suspicious of, but, not really the details of it.
spies8broderick 9:07 pm
I think it shows a lack of effort as well
spies8claude 9:07 pm
indeed
spies8broderick 9:07 pm
Over all it seems to be she hasn't had opportunity to look into them. But that was two eps ago.
spies8broderick 9:19 pm
Do you know what her reasons were for nominating you?
spies8claude 9:19 pm
She thought my role was scummy
spies8broderick 9:19 pm
But now she thinks your a cit?
spies8claude 9:19 pm
I'm not sure what she thinks now
spies8broderick 9:20 pm
spies8broderick (21:10:49): Who are your current suspects?
spies8kiara (21:12:41): tina rodnak magalie
spies8claude 9:20 pm
magalie
such a copout 'suspect'
I wonder why though
spies8broderick 9:20 pm
lol I asked her, and then she went offline
spies8claude 9:20 pm
lol
nice
spies8broderick 9:21 pm
lol. I think more internet issues than avoidance. She poofed right after you did earlier
spies8claude 9:21 pm
Yeah
I'm sure it was a coincidence
spies8broderick 9:31 pm
Gotta question. Is it just me or is an OMGUS accusation against you recent?
spies8claude 9:31 pm
Hmm?
OMGUS is such a dumb accusation
spies8broderick 9:32 pm
People saying that you OMGUS, recent yes?
spies8claude 9:32 pm
Just Kiara I think
but yeah, recent
spies8broderick 9:32 pm
Cinnamyn did in her post
spies8claude 9:32 pm
Which post
spies8broderick 9:32 pm
spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=991
spies8claude 9:33 pm
Ohhhh
Interesting development
I was just asking her whom she is suspicious of
and she didn't mention any of that really
spies8broderick 9:34 pm
cus gertrude just said you OMGUS to me, and I found it interesting this increase in saying you OMGUS
spies8claude 9:34 pm
Gertrude too, eh?
I think people really don't understand what OMGUS means.
Being suspicious of people for making bad cases on you is natural.
spies8broderick 9:35 pm
Voting them for voting fo ryou. oh suspecting them because they suspect you. No?
spies8broderick 9:35 pm
*or
spies8claude 9:35 pm
It's not that simple.
If someone has a legitimate case against you, and you try to make up a case against them, that is OMGUS
When someone makes bad points against you, and the act of them doing so makes you suspicious..that is not OMGUS, it's normal.
spies8broderick 9:36 pm
TRying to make a case against them because they made one against you.
I dont think it matters whether legitimate or not
spies8claude 9:36 pm
What else are you going to think? "Wow, those points against me are awful..but hey, the person is probably still town."
It absolutely, 100% matters.
If it didn't, a scum would just have to make a case on everyone in the game
and then anytime someone suspected them they could just say 'OMGUS'
It's interesting that 3 people at once would come up with this, though.
spies8broderick 9:37 pm
I found it as well
spies8broderick 9:37 pm
I was always under the impression that OMGUS was suspecting/voting for someone merely for the act of them suspecting/voting fo ryou. Had no relation to their reasons
Was all about the act
spies8claude 9:38 pm
I'm pretty sure Awohali expressed suspicion toward me at some point
But I've never felt that he was anything but town.
And Rondak hasn't said anything about me, and I think he is a Spy.
spies8broderick 9:40 pm
lol
Jenny[/size]
spies8claude 9:02 pm
What shall we talk about
spies8jenny 9:03 pm
Hi Claude!
spies8claude 9:03 pm
:-)
spies8jenny 9:03 pm
How are you?
spies8claude 9:03 pm
How are you
doh you beat me to it
spies8jenny 9:03 pm
Hah, beat you to it.
spies8claude 9:03 pm
I'm bored :-(
spies8jenny 9:03 pm
I'm Jenny
spies8claude 9:03 pm
Quick and witty too!
spies8jenny 9:04 pm
Really need to get around to updating my confessional. Been lazier on that then usual, since I've been busy with stuff around the house.
spies8claude 9:05 pm
Well, it's hard to do much of anything when you're spending days on hold w/ Comcast
spies8jenny 9:05 pm
Oh yeah, how that ended?
They figured out what we could have told them 2 hours ago, that the box was defective.
So we're going to get that fixed up sunday.
spies8claude 9:05 pm
That is my favorite.
When it's like..thanks for telling me what I already worked out!
spies8jenny 9:06 pm
Yes, we're sure the bloody cables are plugged in right, you don't have to keep asking about it.
spies8claude 9:07 pm
I know right
spies8jenny 9:07 pm
Yes it's on. *sigh*
spies8claude 9:07 pm
Yes, we already tried to restart it. Yes, it's turne don.
etc
spies8jenny 9:07 pm
I mean, I guess they do have to go through some of that stuff.
Because people can be really stupid.
But it doesn't make it any less annoying.
spies8claude 9:07 pm
It seems like once they get past the first 1-2 things, they could assume htat you tried the rest
or at least just believe you that you did, and not make you redo it all
spies8jenny 9:08 pm
I can sympathize a little bit, I've had to deal with some "special" phone calls at work before.
spies8claude 9:08 pm
What do you do?
spies8jenny 9:08 pm
Don't want to say, alias reasons.
spies8claude 9:08 pm
Oh, sorry.
spies8jenny 9:08 pm
No problem
Simplified version is retail.
spies8claude 9:09 pm
fair enough
spies8jenny 9:10 pm
Trust me, you get some calls at times that will make you want to reach into the phone and beat them senseless.
WE DON'T EVEN CARRY THAT KIND OF ITEM, IT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE IF YOU KEEP ASKING ME FOR 20 MINUTES.
spies8claude 9:11 pm
lol
I know how that goes.
spies8jenny 9:12 pm
So to an extent I can sympathize with the comcast people, but it doesn't make it any less annoying to get asked stuff like if the box is on.
spies8claude 9:14 pm
So, whom are you suspicious of these days
spies8jenny 9:14 pm
Well right now, I'm hoping to get more info about Hammy, Hali, and Lawry. Which is a pain because all three of them are usually rather limited in time that they are online.
spies8claude 9:17 pm
None of them interest me at all. :-P Let me know how it goes though.
spies8jenny 9:17 pm
Especially Lawry, since I've had a whole two chats with him.
spies8claude 9:29 pm
Yeah, I haven't talked to Lawrence at all really.
spies8jenny 9:29 pm
Well at least Al is back finally.
spies8claude 9:30 pm
Is he? Cool.
spies8jenny 9:30 pm
I was just talking to him, he's just restarting something right now I think.
allan[/size]
spies8allan 10:24 pm
who did u use your power on this time?
spies8claude 11:54 pm
No one.
spies8allan 11:54 pm
ah, right
spies8claude 11:54 pm
Now that I have all 3 again, I wanted to wait until Game Day 6, when I can target voters.
spies8allan 11:54 pm
i remember the PM now
spies8claude 11:57 pm
So, whom did you target with the ability?
spies8allan 12:01 am
see the chat
hambone - dane/gert/cory
spies8claude 12:01 am
Interesting
Why those 3?
spies8allan 12:02 am
didn't want to pick anyone that was up for nomination this time
was on vacay, left before it was over
spies8claude 12:02 am
Ahhh okay.
spies8allan 12:02 am
and so Gert u knew i have suspected
and dane has been on my list, but a lil lower
however, now is very high
and cory was just a wildcard that had no real reason
spies8claude 12:03 am
I really don't see how Dane can be a Spy, honestly.
The way he and Alexei got into it seemed very sincere, and the Spies tried to bribe him..
spies8allan 12:04 am
i'm looking at the ppl that voted for steph
that coulda totally been a cover
$5... no one is taking that
so have a spy bribe a spy
makes him look innocent
by "refusing"
spies8claude 12:05 am
I suppose.
Hambone seems pretty mad at you.
spies8allan 12:34 am
he's a moron
this is what i delt with
all rounds 1 and 2
which is why i quit
spies8claude 12:35 am
ahhh
Well, don't give in to it.
spies8allan 12:42 am
man he gets me so upset
he's so persuasive
spies8claude 12:43 am
Eh
spies8allan 12:43 am
he's good at forcing an arguement down your throat
spies8claude 12:43 am
I don't think he's particularly persuasive
his argument is terrible
spies8allan 12:43 am
and it just distracts from everything else
i'd rather talk about u and chance than this go round again
spies8claude 12:43 am
haha
spies8allan 12:44 am
quite literally most of what i said in my explination
was copy/pasted from things i said before
hambone[/size]
Your Cupid background doesn't go very well with your tough guy photo
spies8hambone 12:03 am
:-)
spies8claude 12:03 am
You like that smilie eh.
So why are you giving Allan a hard time
spies8hambone 12:10 am
he used UR role on ME!
:-( :-(
and jenny isnt LISTED
spies8claude 12:10 am
Oh right
spies8hambone 12:10 am
so im not letting him have a 15 min comversation
spies8claude 12:11 am
He said he just chose people that he didn't think would b e nominated..+ Gert.
Since he couldn't be around or w/e
spies8hambone 12:11 am
mhm
spies8claude 12:11 am
Doesn't make a ton of sense.
But when does Allan ever :-(
spies8hambone 12:12 am
he said he chose gert and dane
cuz he suspect them a lil
idk why he choose cory
thats dumb
but ok
spies8claude 12:21 am
so why is Jenny your main suspect?
spies8hambone 12:21 am
where have u been
lol
and YES we do speak
why u saying we dont speak
maybe not 1 on 1
but in the chatrooms we do all the time
spies8claude 12:22 am
Do we?
I'll take your word for it, I don't really remember much important converastion between us.
spies8hambone 12:22 am
we dont rly talk 1 on 1
but we can start if u want
spies8claude 12:23 am
It's not really a big deal to me.
spies8hambone 12:23 am
lol
why not
are u only talking to me right now
cuz u want that 15 second convo?
minute
spies8claude 12:24 am
eh
More or less.
spies8hambone 12:24 am
-__-
ugh
spies8claude 12:24 am
But having a read on you helps
I literally had no thoughts on you earlier when I was making my summary thoughts post
spies8hambone 12:24 am
thats not a good thing
but i can say the same
about many of u
spies8claude 12:25 am
That's true.
spies8hambone 12:25 am
im almost too busy for this game
spies8claude 12:25 am
it's alot more involved with this chat stuff
I'm used to purely forum-based
spies8hambone 12:26 am
ya
Awohali[/size]
spies8claude 12:06 am
Mahalo!
I bet I misspelled that
Spies8Awohali 12:06 am
I believe you are correct, though it is the language of another people.
spies8claude 12:07 am
Ah well, I tried.
Who do you think you'll nominate today
Spies8Awohali 12:08 am
It was a good attempt! I am very torn at the moment... It will not be you, if you are wondering about that. I feel it will be either Jenny, Magalie, Chance, or Rondak most likely.
I plan to talk extensively with Kiara if possible, as well.
spies8claude 12:09 am
I definitely agree with some of those choices, and Jenny/Magalie is understandable, even if not an avenue I would pursue.
Spies8Awohali 12:11 am
Yes, I understand your stance on Jenny, and I have taken it into consideration myself, as well. I still think there is some merit in finding out who she is, for she has done some very odd things and does not hunt, but... I am open to other possibilities.
Who are your top three for this round?
spies8claude 12:11 am
Chance, Kiara, Rondak
Spies8Awohali 12:12 am
It appears that we are on similar wavelengths, then. I am assuming you prefer Chance above the other two?
spies8claude 12:13 am
Ah..yeah.
Spies8Awohali 12:15 am
I am starting to believe that it might be better if he goes, though if there is ever support for a Magalie lynch, I will jump aboard it happily.
spies8claude 12:15 am
I really wish this game had a Vig
Magalie is just so..I don't even know what the word is.
I Feel a lynch on her will be purely based on personality.
Spies8Awohali 12:17 am
I have been adamant on myself to focus on her actions and not her methods
spies8claude 12:17 am
that seems pretty tough.
Spies8Awohali 12:17 am
And I still feel as if there are oddities that remain unexplained. Her votes are not based on anything substantial, she has been caught outright in lies
spies8claude 12:17 am
Magalie?
Yeah for sure
Spies8Awohali 12:17 am
Indeed.
spies8claude 12:18 am
Honestly, I'm pretty sure she will get lynched eventually.
And I won't be surprised if she's a Spy.
Spies8Awohali 12:18 am
I do hope so. Owen mentioned an interesting point, which I believe I mentioned in Round 2 or 3, which is that because of her personality, people might be even more hesitant to get rid of her late in the game than now, being afraid of a misexile
And Owen cited Spies7Kathie, who seemed to be in a similar situation.
spies8claude 12:19 am
Yeah well.
Spies8Awohali 12:20 am
Of course, all it takes is someone to remind everyone of that possibility.
spies8claude 12:27 am
It seems like many people are on the same wavelength right now
with Kiara and Rondak being candidates, I mean
I'm not sure what to make of that.
Spies8Awohali 12:27 am
It almost seems too good to be true.
Rondak makes a lot of sense though, ignoring all suspicions, on the nomination vote situation alone.
spies8claude 12:28 am
I agree
And it definitely seems like Kiara has subtlely defended him at least once
That is kind of putting the cart before the horse though.
Spies8Awohali 12:29 am
Yes, I would much rather see Rondak's flip before Kiara's
Cory[/size]
spies8cory is available 12:10 am
spies8claude 12:10 am
So, Isaac down.
Now what?
spies8cory 12:11 am
Lol I was just about to message you
Do you get the feeling this scum team mostly consists of inexperienced players?
spies8claude 12:12 am
Yes, I absolutely do.
spies8cory 12:12 am
Things like Lilith getting killed
spies8claude 12:12 am
Plus maybe one or two guys that know what they're doing, and arej ust hoping the rest of their team doesn't implicate them somehow
spies8cory 12:12 am
Isaac and Alexei weren't exactly top notch
spies8claude 12:12 am
I know right...Lilith
Did they really think she might be the Doc?
spies8cory 12:13 am
Yeah. She came out of nowhere yesterday and today just throwing out glaring hints
After several game days of staying hidden
After that save in episode two
Seems fishy
Yet they took the bait. Lol.
spies8claude 12:13 am
Right
She was online for 2 minutes Day 1.
She would have to have thrown a dart at a board, blindfolded, to make a doc protection.
spies8cory 12:13 am
Yeah, that's true
spies8claude 12:13 am
2 minutes is hyperbole of course, but still.
spies8cory 12:14 am
She was gone most of the day, out of town
Then got replaced shortly after
spies8claude 12:14 am
I laughed when they said that was why people thought she was killed
spies8cory 12:14 am
Also funny is how Kiara kind of attacked you in the Rondak thread
spies8claude 12:14 am
yeah.
spies8claude 12:15 am
Or her 'idea' about who used the vote fog.
spies8cory 12:15 am
God, that was terrible
Watch it be 100% true. Lol.
spies8claude 12:15 am
She might as well have said 'Here is what my scumbuddy Isaac did'
I just can't see how she came up with that unless she just knew it..it was absurd
spies8cory 12:15 am
Yeah
"Hey here's a crazy theory, I mean, even if it's true, we'll never know, but lol here it is anyway"
She's looking for street credit by doing that.
spies8claude 12:16 am
yeah
spies8cory 12:16 am
Her top suspect is Tina
spies8cory 12:17 am
She also is not paying attention to the game
spies8claude 12:17 am
What do you mean
spies8cory 12:17 am
She wasn't really aware that Isaac and Jasmine were fighting
When i brought it up to her earlier
spies8claude 12:17 am
lol
spies8cory 12:17 am
She had no idea what I was talking about
Her reason for suspecting Tina is that Tina didn't want the vote that Owen could donate
Yet she played hard in the challenge
Anyway, aside from her and Rondak
spies8claude 12:19 am
Why would that be suspicious..
spies8cory 12:19 am
I think Broderick might look better as a result of Isaac going
spies8cory 12:19 am
He was one of the first on Isaac's case about lurking
Also, as of yesterday, he was trying to get me to vote Lilith
Not sure why a Spy would try to do that if they knew they were going to kill her.
spies8claude 12:19 am
Yeah
spies8cory 12:21 am
Did Mary talk to you much about Isaac prior to placing her vote?
spies8claude 12:21 am
A bit
I honestly felt like she was feeling me out on a Jenny vote more than anything else.
She ultimately agreed with me that Isaac should go, but eh.
spies8cory 12:22 am
Really? That's odd
Because she was kind of defending Jenny to me last episode
Sort of
spies8claude 12:22 am
I could be misinterpreting? IDK
spies8cory 12:22 am
Like, I asked her about Jenny and she thought that the fact Jenny came forward with Nita was not optimal Spy play or whatever
It's just odd how she "waited to see what everyone was doing" before she voted.
spies8cory 12:23 am
Out of the Isaac voters, excluding myself, I think her vote is the most likely bus
You, Tina, Owen, and Jasmine, those votes didn't look contrived really
spies8claude 12:24 am
I don't think yours does either.
You were too early to vote him for it to be a bus IMO
Though you're crafty enough to pull it off, shrug
spies8cory 12:25 am
Fortunately I'm not a Spy!
spies8claude 12:25 am
Well you said it, so it must be true!
spies8cory 12:25 am
Lol. Definitely
Case cloesd.
spies8claude 12:28 am
It feels OMGUS-ish, but like
Kiara wanting to nominate me yesterday..blah
I can't make sense out of it.
spies8cory 12:29 am
Did she drop it?
spies8claude 12:29 am
I'm not sure if she did or not
She's busy accusing me of OMGUS as it stands.
I get very annoyed when people use that term incorrectly.
spies8cory 12:31 am
Yeah
I know
spies8claude 12:31 am
it's like
if someone makes a case on you that sucks
spies8cory 12:31 am
It's not OMGUS if you have valid basis for your suspicion
spies8claude 12:31 am
What are you going to do, not say anything?
I'm still missing about half, but I'll get to them.
Mary:
spies8mary 11:57 pm
Hi.
spies8claude 11:58 pm
It's Mary.
spies8mary 11:58 pm
You must be relieved.
spies8claude 11:58 pm
I am!
Relieved that you are alive, and that I am.
I was sure that one of us was getting dead.
spies8mary 11:59 pm
Yes.
spies8claude 11:59 pm
Do you think you're going to help me lynch Chance today, Mary?
He really deserves it.
spies8mary 11:59 pm
I only got to tell Owen half of the things I wanted to this afternoon.
spies8claude 11:59 pm
Well, now you can tell him the other half. :-P
spies8mary 11:59 pm
So I'm really glad they picked Lilith.
spies8claude 12:00 am
That one is confusing
spies8mary 12:00 am
Do you trust Owen? I may have asked you this before.
spies8claude 12:00 am
Apparently they thought she was the Doc, based on some conversation.
I think I do.
He was voting Isaac yesterday.
spies8mary 12:00 am
Only two Spies are gone, right?
spies8claude 12:00 am
yeah
2 down, 5 to go.
spies8mary 12:01 am
I have seen Spies in this series go all the way after busing the first two Spies.
spies8claude 12:01 am
yeah
spies8mary 12:01 am
I don't think Owen could fool me, but you never know.
spies8mary 12:01 am
There are a few very clever people in this bunch. Not many, but a few.
spies8claude 12:02 am
I agree.
I don't know whether or not Owen is one of them.
spies8mary 12:02 am
He is.
We should do a group chat of people we pretty much trust.
spies8claude 12:03 am
I like that idea.
spies8mary 12:03 am
I think it would be helpful.
spies8claude 12:03 am
Except I don't know how many people that includes right now.
spies8mary 12:03 am
I know you don't trust Tina much.
You seem to go less on gut than I do.
spies8claude 12:03 am
She's grown on me some.
spies8mary 12:03 am
The evidence on her is bad.
spies8claude 12:04 am
I don't like that she bailedo n the Alexei wagon, but it could be an honest mistake.
spies8mary 12:04 am
But her cases seem good.
spies8claude 12:04 am
I don't think there is any other evidence.
spies8mary 12:05 am
Tina went after Themba for the whole "giving up" thing.
She made it too strong a piece of evidence in the Themba case, I think.
spies8claude 12:05 am
Ahhh.
I've been guilty of that before.
spies8mary 12:06 am
I don't think people who push cases and are wrong are scummy unless you find specific evidence that was interpreted intentionally the "bad" way.
That is why I am so strongly against Chance.
I have seen him use neutral or innocent evidence the "bad" way so many times.
spies8claude 12:07 am
Exactly
I feel the same way
But it's so hard to show examples of it
Because he always has some obscure 'other meaning' for it.
Also, the way he pushed on Lilith looks really bad now
spies8mary 12:08 am
I skimmed a chat from last night where he was like a little dog yapping at Awohali.
spies8claude 12:08 am
that too
spies8claude 12:08 am
Seems like he's just trying to push anywhere that isn't him.
spies8mary 12:09 am
Cinnamyn seemed to be continuing her protection of him tonight. I need to read her post again.
spies8claude 12:09 am
You noticed that too, eh?
spies8mary 12:11 am
The first question is a softball.
"Chance, do you find Magalie and Jasmine unhelpful?"
The second point is copied from me.
The third question, no one knows the answer for sure and it's not really relevant to alignment.
The fourth question is not really indicative of alignment. "Why were you mean to Awohali?"
spies8mary 12:13 am
Weak overall post.
spies8claude 12:14 am
Where are these questions?
spies8mary 12:15 am
Topic: shizz
You already replied to it.
spies8claude 12:16 am
Oh that.
I wish people understood what OMGUS really means
spies8mary 12:16 am
You're relatively confirmed town and she asks you eight questions in an effort to figure out your alignment?
And then asks Chance 4 softballs.
spies8claude 12:17 am
She told me she is leaning toward chance being a Spy.
spies8mary 12:17 am
When did this happen?
spies8claude 12:18 am
Earlier in private chat
spies8claude 12:18 am
But it felt like a 'hedging my bets' kind of thing
spies8mary 12:19 am
One of my notes on her is about her changes of opinion regarding Chance. And you, for that matter.
"im startin' 2 think dat u 2 iz both citz."
spies8claude 12:20 am
I remember that.
spies8mary 12:20 am
No reasoning.
spies8mary 12:21 am
If she's suspicious of Chance with reasons, that's notable.
spies8claude 12:21 am
Let's have a look at what she said
It's worth noting that, while we were having this conversation, she made NO mention of her 'shizz' post to me.
spies8claude 12:23 am
she said she's mainly suspicious of hambone
which seems like such a weak vote
spies8mary 12:23 am
That's her main suspect?
Valid point, actually.
spies8claude 12:26 am
What's a valid point?
She said she's suspicious of hambone because of his tunnel vision on Jenny
And of Magalie
Which I feel is the ultimate cop out vote right now
spies8mary 12:27 am
There is so much information from this exile.
spies8claude 12:27 am
I know right
I almost don't know where to start analyzing it.
spies8mary 12:28 am
I want to press on it from the top down. Chance, Gertrude, Jasmine, Lawrence, Magalie from direct interactions I've seen.
Jasmine being cleared by the interactions, the others looking worse.
Broderick argues that Jasmine could have been bussing.
Having been there exile 2, I think Jasmine's reactions were totally natural.
spies8claude 12:30 am
Broderick thinks I might be bussing too
spies8mary 12:30 am
What?
spies8claude 12:30 am
I think he just doesn't want to trust people.
He gave that impression yesterday
spies8claude 12:30 am
When I said that I thought I stood a good chance of getting Imprisoned, because the Spies will never be able to mislynch me now.
spies8mary 12:31 am
Ok. Isaac totally handled people differently.
spies8claude 12:31 am
I know right.
spies8mary 12:31 am
He wanted you and Jasmine exiled, in my opinion.
He wanted to LOOK like he suspected Chance.
"Isaac attacked Jasmine for not reading Chance's attack on Claude."
spies8claude 12:32 am
I thought that whole bit was hugely indicative of a relationship between Chance and Isaac
spies8mary 12:32 am
Try different combinations there and see what makes sense to you.
spies8mary 12:33 am
Spy attacked Spy for not reading a Spy's attack on a Cit.
spies8claude 12:33 am
lol..right
spies8mary 12:39 am
What is your big picture case on Chance?
spies8claude 12:39 am
I don't even know how to tie it all together anymore.
spies8mary 12:39 am
I think mine would be a combination of:
He's manipulative and not in an honest way.
spies8claude 12:40 am
He's just going to say 'provide examples'
So much of it is just that the core of his play seems dodgy.
spies8mary 12:40 am
His suspects are terribly reasoned and not solid.
spies8claude 12:40 am
Oh, you mean that trying to make a case on me for something that was a mistake on his part was bad of him? Who knew.
eyes:spies8mary 12:40 am
And he and Isaac were weird about each other.
spies8claude 12:40 am
Yeah.
He just ignored Isaac
Which is honestly what I would expect from an experienced scum that had a novice scum latch onto them.
spies8claude 12:41 am
Like I told him yesterday..his case on me was laughably bad, and plenty of people said as much
But Isaac still tried to run with it anyway.
That should have given Chance pause, but it didn't
spies8mary 12:42 am
Has Chance's case on you matured?
Or is it all based on day one evidence?
Because that's a hallmark of scum.
spies8claude 12:43 am
It definitely hasn't, from what I can tell.
spies8mary 12:43 am
Latch on D1 and fail to reevaluate based on each day's information.
spies8claude 12:43 am
yeah
spies8mary 12:44 am
Devil's advocate, is there anything pro-Cit about Chance?
spies8claude 12:44 am
I've tried to look for anything
And I couldn't find it..which is probably bad on my part
But even his defense of Camilla seems bad to me
I just don't see a citizen putting their neck on the line to defend an unknown
spies8mary 12:45 am
I was watching and I didn't think Camilla was acting Citizenish.
spies8mary 12:46 am
I think in retrospect you pushed her into a corner and she reacted overdefensively.
spies8claude 12:46 am
yeah
She played poorly, and I saw it as her playing scummily
I have that problem sometimes.
I just hate giving people a pass for bad play, because it's such an easy way for scum to hide.
spies8mary 12:47 am
Why do you want to give Magalie a pass?
spies8claude 12:47 am
I don't feel like I have a legitimate behavior read on her
I think she is just a fucking idiot, and that would be the case regardless of alignment
Some of the stuff she has told us..I just can't believe a Spy would say.
spies8mary 12:48 am
Rondak is someone we can question and get information from his reactions.
spies8claude 12:48 am
Yeah
spies8mary 12:48 am
Magalie, I get next to nothing from each talk.
spies8claude 12:48 am
Exactly.
I plan to talk to Rondak if I ever see him around.
spies8claude 12:50 am
I didn't even realize that Cinnamyn posed so many questions to me
jesus christ
Gertrude[/size]
spies8claude 9:02 pm
Good evening Gertrude
spies8gertrude 9:02 pm
Quota filling, I see.
Hey.
spies8claude 9:03 pm
lol
You caught me.
spies8gertrude 9:03 pm
I try.
What's on your mind?
spies8claude 9:04 pm
I dunno
Who are you looking at as suspects these days?
spies8gertrude 9:05 pm
I'd say Rondak is the biggest one for me.
spies8claude 9:05 pm
He's top 3 for me as well.
spies8gertrude 9:05 pm
I remember.
You told me earlier
Chance, Rondak, Kiara.
spies8claude 9:06 pm
Oh okay.
Yeah
spies8gertrude 9:06 pm
Though I would assume Kiara moved to number 2 by now.
spies8claude 9:06 pm
Astute observation on your part.
spies8gertrude 9:07 pm
Mm.
You are not a difficult man to predict.
spies8claude 9:07 pm
It's true.
spies8gertrude 9:08 pm
I see that I've moved down for you.
Or, I would assume so.
spies8claude 9:09 pm
Yeah
spies8gertrude 9:09 pm
Considering I was one of three choices for Allan yesterday.
spies8claude 9:09 pm
You were never getting lynched yesterday anyway, I just had to pick 3.
I didn't even use that ability today.
spies8gertrude 9:10 pm
Right, right.
What I was leading to, though, was why have I slid down?
spies8claude 9:10 pm
I dunno
You didn't really do much to begin with
It was more a lack of participation than anything else
spies8gertrude 9:11 pm
I understand.
Lots of time online, not so many points made.
spies8claude 9:11 pm
yeah, that exactly.
spies8gertrude 9:11 pm
I've been working on that. I hope it shows.
spies8claude 9:12 pm
Last night was very amusing.
spies8gertrude 9:12 pm
Ha.
spies8claude 9:12 pm
You were a big hit.
spies8gertrude 9:12 pm
I'm glad you thought so.
Stick around and there may be an encore performance tonight.
spies8claude 9:12 pm
Awesome
spies8gertrude 9:12 pm
Maybe. I don't want to overdo it.
spies8claude 9:13 pm
Gotta keep people wanting more eh
spies8gertrude 9:13 pm
Well, I just don't want it to become a "eh, another one." kinda thing.
spies8gertrude 9:17 pm
I noticed we had just gotten to the 15 minute mark. Does that mean we are done?
spies8claude 9:17 pm
What do you think of Kiara anyway
Naw
Unless you want us to be done
sniffle
spies8gertrude 9:18 pm
Never!
spies8claude 9:18 pm
chuckle
spies8gertrude 9:18 pm
I'm not sure what I think about Kiara.
I don't think you have too much on her, though.
spies8claude 9:18 pm
I don't either.
I feel like knowing either Rondak or Chance's alignment would shed some light on her.
spies8gertrude 9:19 pm
Mmm.
Hopefully Rondak's. Ha.
I know you feel otherwise.
spies8claude 9:19 pm
Eh
I wouldn't be terribly disappointed if it was Rondak
spies8gertrude 9:19 pm
I'm glad you're keeping your mind open, then.
spies8claude 9:19 pm
Well
then I would just want it to be chance the next day :-P
spies8gertrude 9:20 pm
Right.
Of course.
I would expect nothing less.
spies8claude 9:28 pm
I would hate to disappoint
Stephanie[/size]
spies8stephanie 7:29 pm
hi claude
are you relieved to still be here?
spies8claude 7:34 pm
I am!
I was pretty sure I was dying, especially when it was down to 7 people.
spies8stephanie 7:35 pm
i was more worried about tina, but have to agree i thought you were in grave danger
spies8claude 7:35 pm
And Mary..she is largely viewed as town and has a vote right now
Lilith getting killed is very informative, I think.
spies8stephanie 7:35 pm
but might have protection
spies8claude 7:35 pm
Someone REALLY believed she was the Doc.
spies8stephanie 7:36 pm
no one could be that naive, could they?
spies8claude 7:36 pm
Apparently.
spies8stephanie 7:37 pm
i've looked thru my chats with her
but not the main chat logs
and i'm stumped
spies8claude 7:38 pm
Apparently it was some conversation in the main chat.
So I guess I'll have to suffer through finding it
And see whom was there at the time.
spies8stephanie 7:38 pm
and there is soooo much stuff to look thru
spies8claude 7:38 pm
I agree :-(
I'm starting to see what Lilith saw in you. She said you were very innocent.
spies8stephanie 7:39 pm
i was there when somebody said that gabe had claimed to allan
spies8stephanie 7:39 pm
i might be able to find that
cause i said wtf, that can't be true
spies8claude 7:42 pm
That was the whole fake messenger bit or w/e?
spies8stephanie 7:43 pm
yeah that came out just a little bit later
but for a while i was screaming no gabe did not claim to allan
spies8claude 7:44 pm
Honestly, the idea that there is a scum version of that role is so weird.
spies8stephanie 7:44 pm
i don't think so
spies8claude 7:44 pm
It's such an obscure role though, to have it on both sides..I dunno
spies8claude 7:44 pm
I guess I can see the dynamic to everyone trying to figure out which messages are good.
spies8stephanie 7:46 pm
ok it's at midnight cdt on july 5th
(11:59:58 PM) spies8lilith: I just read something
(12:00:08 AM) spies8lilith: Chance says that Allan confirmed that Gabriel was the doctor??
spies8claude 7:49 pm
And that's it?
spies8stephanie 7:49 pm
no no
spies8claude 7:49 pm
I was going to say..you've got to be kidding me
spies8stephanie 7:51 pm
spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=burg&thread=822&post=4713
or not
spies8claude 7:52 pm
?
spies8stephanie 7:53 pm
scroll down it looks like 1:00 jenny's time
sure looks like it points to chance once again
spies8claude 7:55 pm
Shocking!
...
not really
I found something else interesting.
spies8claude 7:55 pm
When Owen is talking about why he suspects Isaac, Kiara says:
[23:19] spies8kiara: but owen, wasnt part of the reason why you voted isaac was the possible scum slip with themba?
That is a big sneaky-defense of deadspyisaac
spies8stephanie 7:56 pm
huh?
idk, i asked owen same thing
spies8claude 7:57 pm
Sometimes it's all in how you word things
spies8stephanie 7:57 pm
right after themba left
spies8claude 7:57 pm
The way that is worded, it reads like she is trying to lessen Owen's suspicions
How did you word it?
spies8stephanie 7:58 pm
idk, something like do you think this clears isaac now that themba has flipped cit
spies8claude 7:58 pm
I'll have to look it up
Could just be nothing, I suppose.
spies8stephanie 7:58 pm
i was a little pissed off with him for voting themba instead of mags
spies8claude 7:58 pm
haha
spies8stephanie 7:59 pm
[01:06] spies8lilith: Gabe was not the doctor. Allan is doing something fishy.
[01:06] spies8lilith: What?
[01:06] spies8chance: well, one of allan or lilith is a liar, then.
spies8claude 7:59 pm
And for the last 2 days, Chance has pushed on lilith whenever possible.
Man I hope he gets lynched.
spies8stephanie 8:00 pm
hell chance has pushed on e1 possible
and then some
spies8claude 8:00 pm
lol
spies8claude 8:03 pm
Kiara is tied to everyone I think is scum.
fascinating
Like this:
[23:36] spies8kiara: wasnt it steph who suspect rondak early on because he didnt know what bussing ment? it was a real dumb reason imo. and lilith was having a crazy hard time keeping people straight, like she couldnt remember who was on what team. that seems more like acting dumb to me, which i find worrisome
That reads as a subtle defense of Rondak to me, and is such a bad reason for her to be 'suspicious' of you and Lilith
spies8stephanie 8:04 pm
kiara's been on my watch list since i first saw her as new kiara
spies8claude 8:05 pm
Ahhh
I forgot that she replaced
spies8stephanie 8:05 pm
coming into the game with like a couple of hours to exile
spies8stephanie 8:05 pm
and told her i was voting savannah
i think that was the right exile
and told her themba was cit
and spelled out for her in excruciating detail why i thought themba was cit
and then she voted themba
spies8claude 8:06 pm
lol
Maybe she just didn't agree with you?
spies8stephanie 8:07 pm
yep, which is why she just went on the watch list and not on the spy list
Broderick[/size]
spies8claude 8:21 pm
I suppose I'll just talk to everyone
spies8broderick 8:21 pm
lol Hi Claude
spies8claude 8:23 pm
I don't really mind talking to you anyway, you're still pretty town to me.
spies8broderick 8:24 pm
I though I moved to your second tier?
spies8claude 8:24 pm
Yeah, but I still think you're town
Just not as sure as I was before?
Who are you looking at as suspects today anyway?
spies8broderick 8:26 pm
lol. Well I realized that I've voted Jasmine the last three ep's, and that is rather tunneling.
spies8claude 8:26 pm
It happens to the best of us.
I don't think Jasmine/Isaac was a bussing type of event.
spies8broderick 8:27 pm
lol well yah. but im surprised no one called me on it. I hadnt even realized it myself, til i was trying to think who i voted for the second ep, and i was like wtf. Jasmine three times in a row?!
So with that realization, also that she seems to be looking town for a lot of other epople, for reasons i fail to see.
spies8broderick 8:28 pm
I'm going to look more indepth at Gertrude, Chance, Cory maybe, and attempt to compile all stances from people on Isaac, and stances on people made by Isaac
See if that gets me anywhere
spies8claude 8:29 pm
That sounds sensible.
I'm starting to get bad vibes from Kiara and Rondak
spies8broderick 8:29 pm
Kiara is a big lurker for me.
Why bad vibes on those two?
spies8claude 8:30 pm
I feel like Kiara subtlely defended Isaac to Owen the other day
spies8claude 8:31 pm
Plus, her 'insight' on the vote fog ability really does read as inside info, as Cory said.
spies8broderick 8:33 pm
What did she say to Owen, and what do you mean what cory said?
spies8claude 8:33 pm
Let me just find the thread.
or threads
Kiara:
so i got a theory on this. what if the ability to hide who voted whom was isaacs ability? he knew he was going, so he figured better to use it than waste it? the spies as a whole didnt want to move their votes around too much because it could hurt them later on when more people have had their alignments revealed. isaac (bein the unknown voter at the time) slaps his vote onto steph pulling her into the top three and taking out claude and rondak. much confusion and speculation occurs over why the spies would do such a thing, and the only person who could be caught in a lie for switching their vote is the one gettin exiled anyway.
Cory:
Lots of guessing there, Kiara. You wouldn't happen to have inside knowledge on any of this, would you?
spies8broderick 8:34 pm
lol. How would he know he was going?
spies8claude 8:34 pm
He just gave up is what I think she was saying
Owen had been voting him the day before, and plenty of people were suspicious of him
It wasn't surprising that he got lynched.
spies8broderick 8:35 pm
True. That would imply he fabricated a family member dying.
I just cant think of any decent person who would do that
spies8claude 8:35 pm
Ah, nah.
I can't believe that someone would lie about that.
If anything, it may have played into why he just gave up though.
spies8broderick 8:36 pm
So gave up before he left?
spies8claude 8:36 pm
The other part(Kiara defending Isaac) is:
When Owen is talking about why he suspects Isaac, Kiara says:
[23:19] spies8kiara: but owen, wasnt part of the reason why you voted isaac was the possible scum slip with themba?
That is a big sneaky-defense of deadspyisaac
spies8broderick 8:37 pm
It cant be considered a scumslip anymore, since Themba isn't a spy
spies8claude 8:37 pm
Right.
That's not what I was saying; sorry.
I just feel like the way Kiara put that was trying to deflate Owen's suspicions of Isaac
spies8broderick 8:38 pm
ahh K.
Who did she vote for?
spies8claude 8:39 pm
I guess she nominated me.
spies8claude 8:40 pm
I find that to be a little off, considering that she didn't know anything about me at all, and there were plenty of people from her team that should have expressed some idea of suspicion towards
But meh.
spies8broderick 8:41 pm
I think the last time I chatted with her, back before the merge. She was a bit suspect of Lilith
WB
spies8claude 8:47 pm
Thanks
spies8broderick 8:59 pm
Huh
spies8claude 8:59 pm
?
spies8broderick 9:00 pm
tuesday june 29th right before midnight CST time. So i'td tech be about 50 minutes past the start of wednesday june 20th
spies8claude 9:00 pm
That was awhile ago..what happened?
spies8broderick 9:00 pm
well, of the old republicans the ones who worry me the most would be themba and stephanie, with honorable mentions from dane and tina. from you new guys it would be lawrence, but thats mostly second hand information
Themba and Stephanie worry Kiara the most. With minors on Dane and Tina. OrigReps.
spies8claude 9:01 pm
lol
spies8broderick 9:01 pm
about 21 hours later
spies8broderick 9:01 pm
themba, dane, lawrernce. even steph and tina a bit.
stephanie is a minor, not a major any more
spies8claude 9:01 pm
and lawrence has moved up
spies8broderick 9:02 pm
dane is a major and not a minor
spies8claude 9:02 pm
that too
Dane, whom was obvtown after his interactions with Alexei
So the ones that she wasn't suspicious of were..Rondak and Jenny?
spies8broderick 9:03 pm
Huh?
spies8claude 9:03 pm
She didn't express any suspicion towards Rondak or Jenny, right?
spies8broderick 9:04 pm
Kiara also suspected Lilith at the time too
Don't believe so
Though they were on the opposite team, so probably wasnt going to mention them
spies8claude 9:04 pm
So she suspected a bunch of people that we either now KNOW are tonw, or, can reasonably believe to be so?
Ahhh okay.
That's fair.
spies8broderick 9:06 pm
I huh'd it, cus they switched around in less than 24 hours
spies8claude 9:06 pm
Yeah
Shows a lack of consistency..like she remembered the people she was claiming to be suspicious of, but, not really the details of it.
spies8broderick 9:07 pm
I think it shows a lack of effort as well
spies8claude 9:07 pm
indeed
spies8broderick 9:07 pm
Over all it seems to be she hasn't had opportunity to look into them. But that was two eps ago.
spies8broderick 9:19 pm
Do you know what her reasons were for nominating you?
spies8claude 9:19 pm
She thought my role was scummy
spies8broderick 9:19 pm
But now she thinks your a cit?
spies8claude 9:19 pm
I'm not sure what she thinks now
spies8broderick 9:20 pm
spies8broderick (21:10:49): Who are your current suspects?
spies8kiara (21:12:41): tina rodnak magalie
spies8claude 9:20 pm
magalie
such a copout 'suspect'
I wonder why though
spies8broderick 9:20 pm
lol I asked her, and then she went offline
spies8claude 9:20 pm
lol
nice
spies8broderick 9:21 pm
lol. I think more internet issues than avoidance. She poofed right after you did earlier
spies8claude 9:21 pm
Yeah
I'm sure it was a coincidence
spies8broderick 9:31 pm
Gotta question. Is it just me or is an OMGUS accusation against you recent?
spies8claude 9:31 pm
Hmm?
OMGUS is such a dumb accusation
spies8broderick 9:32 pm
People saying that you OMGUS, recent yes?
spies8claude 9:32 pm
Just Kiara I think
but yeah, recent
spies8broderick 9:32 pm
Cinnamyn did in her post
spies8claude 9:32 pm
Which post
spies8broderick 9:32 pm
spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=991
spies8claude 9:33 pm
Ohhhh
Interesting development
I was just asking her whom she is suspicious of
and she didn't mention any of that really
spies8broderick 9:34 pm
cus gertrude just said you OMGUS to me, and I found it interesting this increase in saying you OMGUS
spies8claude 9:34 pm
Gertrude too, eh?
I think people really don't understand what OMGUS means.
Being suspicious of people for making bad cases on you is natural.
spies8broderick 9:35 pm
Voting them for voting fo ryou. oh suspecting them because they suspect you. No?
spies8broderick 9:35 pm
*or
spies8claude 9:35 pm
It's not that simple.
If someone has a legitimate case against you, and you try to make up a case against them, that is OMGUS
When someone makes bad points against you, and the act of them doing so makes you suspicious..that is not OMGUS, it's normal.
spies8broderick 9:36 pm
TRying to make a case against them because they made one against you.
I dont think it matters whether legitimate or not
spies8claude 9:36 pm
What else are you going to think? "Wow, those points against me are awful..but hey, the person is probably still town."
It absolutely, 100% matters.
If it didn't, a scum would just have to make a case on everyone in the game
and then anytime someone suspected them they could just say 'OMGUS'
It's interesting that 3 people at once would come up with this, though.
spies8broderick 9:37 pm
I found it as well
spies8broderick 9:37 pm
I was always under the impression that OMGUS was suspecting/voting for someone merely for the act of them suspecting/voting fo ryou. Had no relation to their reasons
Was all about the act
spies8claude 9:38 pm
I'm pretty sure Awohali expressed suspicion toward me at some point
But I've never felt that he was anything but town.
And Rondak hasn't said anything about me, and I think he is a Spy.
spies8broderick 9:40 pm
lol
Jenny[/size]
spies8claude 9:02 pm
What shall we talk about
spies8jenny 9:03 pm
Hi Claude!
spies8claude 9:03 pm
:-)
spies8jenny 9:03 pm
How are you?
spies8claude 9:03 pm
How are you
doh you beat me to it
spies8jenny 9:03 pm
Hah, beat you to it.
spies8claude 9:03 pm
I'm bored :-(
spies8jenny 9:03 pm
I'm Jenny
spies8claude 9:03 pm
Quick and witty too!
spies8jenny 9:04 pm
Really need to get around to updating my confessional. Been lazier on that then usual, since I've been busy with stuff around the house.
spies8claude 9:05 pm
Well, it's hard to do much of anything when you're spending days on hold w/ Comcast
spies8jenny 9:05 pm
Oh yeah, how that ended?
They figured out what we could have told them 2 hours ago, that the box was defective.
So we're going to get that fixed up sunday.
spies8claude 9:05 pm
That is my favorite.
When it's like..thanks for telling me what I already worked out!
spies8jenny 9:06 pm
Yes, we're sure the bloody cables are plugged in right, you don't have to keep asking about it.
spies8claude 9:07 pm
I know right
spies8jenny 9:07 pm
Yes it's on. *sigh*
spies8claude 9:07 pm
Yes, we already tried to restart it. Yes, it's turne don.
etc
spies8jenny 9:07 pm
I mean, I guess they do have to go through some of that stuff.
Because people can be really stupid.
But it doesn't make it any less annoying.
spies8claude 9:07 pm
It seems like once they get past the first 1-2 things, they could assume htat you tried the rest
or at least just believe you that you did, and not make you redo it all
spies8jenny 9:08 pm
I can sympathize a little bit, I've had to deal with some "special" phone calls at work before.
spies8claude 9:08 pm
What do you do?
spies8jenny 9:08 pm
Don't want to say, alias reasons.
spies8claude 9:08 pm
Oh, sorry.
spies8jenny 9:08 pm
No problem
Simplified version is retail.
spies8claude 9:09 pm
fair enough
spies8jenny 9:10 pm
Trust me, you get some calls at times that will make you want to reach into the phone and beat them senseless.
WE DON'T EVEN CARRY THAT KIND OF ITEM, IT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE IF YOU KEEP ASKING ME FOR 20 MINUTES.
spies8claude 9:11 pm
lol
I know how that goes.
spies8jenny 9:12 pm
So to an extent I can sympathize with the comcast people, but it doesn't make it any less annoying to get asked stuff like if the box is on.
spies8claude 9:14 pm
So, whom are you suspicious of these days
spies8jenny 9:14 pm
Well right now, I'm hoping to get more info about Hammy, Hali, and Lawry. Which is a pain because all three of them are usually rather limited in time that they are online.
spies8claude 9:17 pm
None of them interest me at all. :-P Let me know how it goes though.
spies8jenny 9:17 pm
Especially Lawry, since I've had a whole two chats with him.
spies8claude 9:29 pm
Yeah, I haven't talked to Lawrence at all really.
spies8jenny 9:29 pm
Well at least Al is back finally.
spies8claude 9:30 pm
Is he? Cool.
spies8jenny 9:30 pm
I was just talking to him, he's just restarting something right now I think.
allan[/size]
spies8allan 10:24 pm
who did u use your power on this time?
spies8claude 11:54 pm
No one.
spies8allan 11:54 pm
ah, right
spies8claude 11:54 pm
Now that I have all 3 again, I wanted to wait until Game Day 6, when I can target voters.
spies8allan 11:54 pm
i remember the PM now
spies8claude 11:57 pm
So, whom did you target with the ability?
spies8allan 12:01 am
see the chat
hambone - dane/gert/cory
spies8claude 12:01 am
Interesting
Why those 3?
spies8allan 12:02 am
didn't want to pick anyone that was up for nomination this time
was on vacay, left before it was over
spies8claude 12:02 am
Ahhh okay.
spies8allan 12:02 am
and so Gert u knew i have suspected
and dane has been on my list, but a lil lower
however, now is very high
and cory was just a wildcard that had no real reason
spies8claude 12:03 am
I really don't see how Dane can be a Spy, honestly.
The way he and Alexei got into it seemed very sincere, and the Spies tried to bribe him..
spies8allan 12:04 am
i'm looking at the ppl that voted for steph
that coulda totally been a cover
$5... no one is taking that
so have a spy bribe a spy
makes him look innocent
by "refusing"
spies8claude 12:05 am
I suppose.
Hambone seems pretty mad at you.
spies8allan 12:34 am
he's a moron
this is what i delt with
all rounds 1 and 2
which is why i quit
spies8claude 12:35 am
ahhh
Well, don't give in to it.
spies8allan 12:42 am
man he gets me so upset
he's so persuasive
spies8claude 12:43 am
Eh
spies8allan 12:43 am
he's good at forcing an arguement down your throat
spies8claude 12:43 am
I don't think he's particularly persuasive
his argument is terrible
spies8allan 12:43 am
and it just distracts from everything else
i'd rather talk about u and chance than this go round again
spies8claude 12:43 am
haha
spies8allan 12:44 am
quite literally most of what i said in my explination
was copy/pasted from things i said before
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Your Cupid background doesn't go very well with your tough guy photo
spies8hambone 12:03 am
:-)
spies8claude 12:03 am
You like that smilie eh.
So why are you giving Allan a hard time
spies8hambone 12:10 am
he used UR role on ME!
:-( :-(
and jenny isnt LISTED
spies8claude 12:10 am
Oh right
spies8hambone 12:10 am
so im not letting him have a 15 min comversation
spies8claude 12:11 am
He said he just chose people that he didn't think would b e nominated..+ Gert.
Since he couldn't be around or w/e
spies8hambone 12:11 am
mhm
spies8claude 12:11 am
Doesn't make a ton of sense.
But when does Allan ever :-(
spies8hambone 12:12 am
he said he chose gert and dane
cuz he suspect them a lil
idk why he choose cory
thats dumb
but ok
spies8claude 12:21 am
so why is Jenny your main suspect?
spies8hambone 12:21 am
where have u been
lol
and YES we do speak
why u saying we dont speak
maybe not 1 on 1
but in the chatrooms we do all the time
spies8claude 12:22 am
Do we?
I'll take your word for it, I don't really remember much important converastion between us.
spies8hambone 12:22 am
we dont rly talk 1 on 1
but we can start if u want
spies8claude 12:23 am
It's not really a big deal to me.
spies8hambone 12:23 am
lol
why not
are u only talking to me right now
cuz u want that 15 second convo?
minute
spies8claude 12:24 am
eh
More or less.
spies8hambone 12:24 am
-__-
ugh
spies8claude 12:24 am
But having a read on you helps
I literally had no thoughts on you earlier when I was making my summary thoughts post
spies8hambone 12:24 am
thats not a good thing
but i can say the same
about many of u
spies8claude 12:25 am
That's true.
spies8hambone 12:25 am
im almost too busy for this game
spies8claude 12:25 am
it's alot more involved with this chat stuff
I'm used to purely forum-based
spies8hambone 12:26 am
ya
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spies8claude 12:06 am
Mahalo!
I bet I misspelled that
Spies8Awohali 12:06 am
I believe you are correct, though it is the language of another people.
spies8claude 12:07 am
Ah well, I tried.
Who do you think you'll nominate today
Spies8Awohali 12:08 am
It was a good attempt! I am very torn at the moment... It will not be you, if you are wondering about that. I feel it will be either Jenny, Magalie, Chance, or Rondak most likely.
I plan to talk extensively with Kiara if possible, as well.
spies8claude 12:09 am
I definitely agree with some of those choices, and Jenny/Magalie is understandable, even if not an avenue I would pursue.
Spies8Awohali 12:11 am
Yes, I understand your stance on Jenny, and I have taken it into consideration myself, as well. I still think there is some merit in finding out who she is, for she has done some very odd things and does not hunt, but... I am open to other possibilities.
Who are your top three for this round?
spies8claude 12:11 am
Chance, Kiara, Rondak
Spies8Awohali 12:12 am
It appears that we are on similar wavelengths, then. I am assuming you prefer Chance above the other two?
spies8claude 12:13 am
Ah..yeah.
Spies8Awohali 12:15 am
I am starting to believe that it might be better if he goes, though if there is ever support for a Magalie lynch, I will jump aboard it happily.
spies8claude 12:15 am
I really wish this game had a Vig
Magalie is just so..I don't even know what the word is.
I Feel a lynch on her will be purely based on personality.
Spies8Awohali 12:17 am
I have been adamant on myself to focus on her actions and not her methods
spies8claude 12:17 am
that seems pretty tough.
Spies8Awohali 12:17 am
And I still feel as if there are oddities that remain unexplained. Her votes are not based on anything substantial, she has been caught outright in lies
spies8claude 12:17 am
Magalie?
Yeah for sure
Spies8Awohali 12:17 am
Indeed.
spies8claude 12:18 am
Honestly, I'm pretty sure she will get lynched eventually.
And I won't be surprised if she's a Spy.
Spies8Awohali 12:18 am
I do hope so. Owen mentioned an interesting point, which I believe I mentioned in Round 2 or 3, which is that because of her personality, people might be even more hesitant to get rid of her late in the game than now, being afraid of a misexile
And Owen cited Spies7Kathie, who seemed to be in a similar situation.
spies8claude 12:19 am
Yeah well.
Spies8Awohali 12:20 am
Of course, all it takes is someone to remind everyone of that possibility.
spies8claude 12:27 am
It seems like many people are on the same wavelength right now
with Kiara and Rondak being candidates, I mean
I'm not sure what to make of that.
Spies8Awohali 12:27 am
It almost seems too good to be true.
Rondak makes a lot of sense though, ignoring all suspicions, on the nomination vote situation alone.
spies8claude 12:28 am
I agree
And it definitely seems like Kiara has subtlely defended him at least once
That is kind of putting the cart before the horse though.
Spies8Awohali 12:29 am
Yes, I would much rather see Rondak's flip before Kiara's
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spies8cory is available 12:10 am
spies8claude 12:10 am
So, Isaac down.
Now what?
spies8cory 12:11 am
Lol I was just about to message you
Do you get the feeling this scum team mostly consists of inexperienced players?
spies8claude 12:12 am
Yes, I absolutely do.
spies8cory 12:12 am
Things like Lilith getting killed
spies8claude 12:12 am
Plus maybe one or two guys that know what they're doing, and arej ust hoping the rest of their team doesn't implicate them somehow
spies8cory 12:12 am
Isaac and Alexei weren't exactly top notch
spies8claude 12:12 am
I know right...Lilith
Did they really think she might be the Doc?
spies8cory 12:13 am
Yeah. She came out of nowhere yesterday and today just throwing out glaring hints
After several game days of staying hidden
After that save in episode two
Seems fishy
Yet they took the bait. Lol.
spies8claude 12:13 am
Right
She was online for 2 minutes Day 1.
She would have to have thrown a dart at a board, blindfolded, to make a doc protection.
spies8cory 12:13 am
Yeah, that's true
spies8claude 12:13 am
2 minutes is hyperbole of course, but still.
spies8cory 12:14 am
She was gone most of the day, out of town
Then got replaced shortly after
spies8claude 12:14 am
I laughed when they said that was why people thought she was killed
spies8cory 12:14 am
Also funny is how Kiara kind of attacked you in the Rondak thread
spies8claude 12:14 am
yeah.
spies8claude 12:15 am
Or her 'idea' about who used the vote fog.
spies8cory 12:15 am
God, that was terrible
Watch it be 100% true. Lol.
spies8claude 12:15 am
She might as well have said 'Here is what my scumbuddy Isaac did'
I just can't see how she came up with that unless she just knew it..it was absurd
spies8cory 12:15 am
Yeah
"Hey here's a crazy theory, I mean, even if it's true, we'll never know, but lol here it is anyway"
She's looking for street credit by doing that.
spies8claude 12:16 am
yeah
spies8cory 12:16 am
Her top suspect is Tina
spies8cory 12:17 am
She also is not paying attention to the game
spies8claude 12:17 am
What do you mean
spies8cory 12:17 am
She wasn't really aware that Isaac and Jasmine were fighting
When i brought it up to her earlier
spies8claude 12:17 am
lol
spies8cory 12:17 am
She had no idea what I was talking about
Her reason for suspecting Tina is that Tina didn't want the vote that Owen could donate
Yet she played hard in the challenge
Anyway, aside from her and Rondak
spies8claude 12:19 am
Why would that be suspicious..
spies8cory 12:19 am
I think Broderick might look better as a result of Isaac going
spies8cory 12:19 am
He was one of the first on Isaac's case about lurking
Also, as of yesterday, he was trying to get me to vote Lilith
Not sure why a Spy would try to do that if they knew they were going to kill her.
spies8claude 12:19 am
Yeah
spies8cory 12:21 am
Did Mary talk to you much about Isaac prior to placing her vote?
spies8claude 12:21 am
A bit
I honestly felt like she was feeling me out on a Jenny vote more than anything else.
She ultimately agreed with me that Isaac should go, but eh.
spies8cory 12:22 am
Really? That's odd
Because she was kind of defending Jenny to me last episode
Sort of
spies8claude 12:22 am
I could be misinterpreting? IDK
spies8cory 12:22 am
Like, I asked her about Jenny and she thought that the fact Jenny came forward with Nita was not optimal Spy play or whatever
It's just odd how she "waited to see what everyone was doing" before she voted.
spies8cory 12:23 am
Out of the Isaac voters, excluding myself, I think her vote is the most likely bus
You, Tina, Owen, and Jasmine, those votes didn't look contrived really
spies8claude 12:24 am
I don't think yours does either.
You were too early to vote him for it to be a bus IMO
Though you're crafty enough to pull it off, shrug
spies8cory 12:25 am
Fortunately I'm not a Spy!
spies8claude 12:25 am
Well you said it, so it must be true!
spies8cory 12:25 am
Lol. Definitely
Case cloesd.
spies8claude 12:28 am
It feels OMGUS-ish, but like
Kiara wanting to nominate me yesterday..blah
I can't make sense out of it.
spies8cory 12:29 am
Did she drop it?
spies8claude 12:29 am
I'm not sure if she did or not
She's busy accusing me of OMGUS as it stands.
I get very annoyed when people use that term incorrectly.
spies8cory 12:31 am
Yeah
I know
spies8claude 12:31 am
it's like
if someone makes a case on you that sucks
spies8cory 12:31 am
It's not OMGUS if you have valid basis for your suspicion
spies8claude 12:31 am
What are you going to do, not say anything?
I'm still missing about half, but I'll get to them.
