[23:58] spies8jenny: Well that went well
[23:59] spies8owen: As I'm sure you knew, saying I was voting you was a test.
[23:59] spies8owen: I mean, wait.
[23:59] spies8owen: Secret vote.
[23:59] spies8jenny: I'm sure we're allowed to claim whatever vote you want.
[00:00] spies8jenny: So you can say that the single vote that you only had was whatever you want to claim, it's just not officially in the records.
[00:02] spies8jenny: In any case, tonight really helps me out, since Isaac was one of those people I never really got to meet, and didn't have any real read on.
[00:02] spies8owen: I have to do Isaac reading
[00:02] spies8owen: I think he might have left some trails
[00:03] spies8jenny: That'd be helpful at least. Hopefully you got to talk to him more then I did.
[00:12] spies8jenny: Oh wow. I just found the song Sammy used for the spies8 trailer.
[00:17] spies8jenny: Anyways, after tonight I think I'm willing to agree that Stephi isn't a spy.
Either Isaac voted for Stephi, to explain the lack of tie, or the spies used the fog to push her into the third spot.
Either way, that doesn't make sense happening if she's a spy.
Friday, July 9, 2010 01:18:09
[01:18] spies8jenny: So how are you?
[01:18] spies8owen: I'm alright. Wish I would have gotten on sooner, but I had other things I had to attend to.
[01:18] spies8owen: How are you?
[01:18] spies8jenny: You just missed Dane by the way.
[01:19] spies8owen: Oh, fun.
[01:19] spies8owen: Was he fighting as always?
[01:19] spies8jenny: He just logged off because he was getting sick of trying to argue with Spice.
[01:19] spies8owen: I'm surprised he came on AIM.
[01:19] spies8jenny: About the points you just walked in on.
[01:20] spies8jenny: I'll go ahead and update the log again so you can see.
[01:20] spies8jenny: Since you kind of walked in right as I started my rage.
[01:23] spies8jenny: Updated it so you can see.
[01:23] spies8owen: Thank you.
[01:24] spies8jenny: Sorry about the lousy timing of you walking in there.
[01:27] spies8owen: Dane is moving up a bit for me.
[01:27] spies8jenny: As a spy you mean? How come?
[01:28] spies8owen: He seems to avoid AIM. When he comes on, all he does is fight.
[01:28] spies8owen: He questions people in simple ways like "who would you vote between?"
[01:28] spies8owen: I just don't see him doing much.
[01:28] spies8owen: Other than fighting.
[01:29] spies8jenny: I might agree with that, but considering how wonderfully that train of thought went with Harold last time, that's not going to do much for me this time around.
[01:30] spies8jenny: Especially since I've always had suspicions that they're the same person anyways.
[02:03] spies8jenny: Still reading the log?
[02:04] spies8owen: Nope, got caught up talking to Cory-kins a bit and watching BBUK. But I just went back to it.
[02:04] spies8owen: I'm at Dane's "4 citizens theory"
[02:04] spies8owen: I'm actually laughing at it.
[02:04] spies8owen: It's so extremely random.
[02:04] spies8owen: YEAH, FOUR CITIZENS WOULD HAVE VOTED NITA
[02:04] spies8jenny: I would have guessed 15 citizens and 4 spies.
[02:06] spies8jenny: Minimum.
[02:07] spies8owen: I just rolled AIM dice in another chat.
[02:07] spies8owen: I'm gonna say 9 citizens.
[02:07] spies8owen: AT LEAST.
[02:07] spies8owen: Definitely, you know.
[02:07] spies8jenny: Mine was serious by the way.
[02:07] spies8owen: Figured as much.
[02:07] spies8owen: I think a lot more than 4, too.
[02:08] spies8owen: I can't say for sure what I would have done.
[02:08] spies8owen: Since she was hunting still.
[02:09] spies8jenny: And in the end, she's still not a spy.
[02:11] spies8owen: Yep. And if we knew she was 3rd party, it would be kind of hard for her to get away with spy tasks, imo.
[02:11] spies8owen: Like once I found out she was 3rd party, there were things I could see right away that could have been tasks
[02:12] spies8owen: The no exile mainly.
[02:12] spies8jenny: I asked about that one. Apparently it wasn't one.
[02:18] spies8owen: Yeah, I heard as such. I wouldn't be surprised if it actually was one though.
[02:19] spies8owen: Not sure why she would lie to you, but it seemed odd coming from her.
[02:20] spies8jenny: Her line of thinking was apparently that there was so much stuff going on over on your side, that she felt it would be a good idea to keep things as simple as possible, and not have you also worrying about who we put up as well as your own nomination, and figuring out who to assign ultimate cosmic power and itty bitty living space to.
[02:21] spies8owen: Makes sense.
[02:21] spies8jenny: She wasn't the first one to bring it up either.
[02:21] spies8jenny: I think that was Claude.
[02:21] spies8owen: Ahh, probably not a task then.
[02:21] spies8owen: Unless she jumped on it when she saw the opportunity.
[02:21] spies8owen: But the reasons sound reasonable enough.
[02:21] spies8owen: Reasonable reasons are always great.
[02:22] spies8jenny: Like I said to... someone, I forget who, maybe hali, I always felt she meant well with some of her ideas, but was a pain to talk to sometimes.
[02:23] spies8jenny: The no exile thing was one of them.
[02:24] spies8owen: I know what you mean. She could get stubborn.
[02:24] spies8owen: But much respect for her, she always kept me calm.
[02:24] spies8owen: Question.
[02:24] spies8jenny: Sure.
[02:24] spies8owen: What are your thoughts on Broderick?
[02:25] spies8owen: I feel like he's doing a 180 for me.
[02:25] spies8jenny: I keep flipping with him right now. Sometimes he'll say something that makes me think he's a cit, and then 5 minutes later he'll say something that makes me shoot the other way.
[02:25] spies8owen: At first I'm thinking "he asks questions, good"
[02:25] spies8owen: Sometimes I think "he's pressuring people into slipups"
[02:25] spies8owen: Blah.
[02:26] spies8owen: Town players, too.
[02:26] spies8owen: And he's one of the only ones that wasn't TOO suspicious of Isaac, but made sure to keep him in his "looking at" category.
[02:26] spies8owen: And told me how distasteful it would be to lynch him.
[02:27] spies8jenny: Because of him being gone?
[02:27] spies8owen: I'm sorry, I know it's a horrible situation, but if I think he's a spy, it's not distasteful.
[02:27] spies8owen: If I voted him out because I didn't like him while this was happening and he wasn't here to defend himself, that's distasteful.
[02:27] spies8jenny: Think of it as revenge for doing it to Ni-Ni right?
[02:27] spies8jenny:
[02:28] spies8owen: Good call. She wasn't gonna be around to do anything.
[02:28] spies8owen: Also, if the Magalie/Isaac connection was there as others are saying (I have to look more into it)
[02:29] spies8owen: I think Brod connects a bit to it as well.
[02:29] spies8owen: He didn't vote Magalie in the revote.
[02:29] spies8jenny: And then there's always his stone impersonation.
[02:29] spies8jenny: That whole "Spies are just sure to win this" remark
[02:29] spies8owen: Hated that.
[02:30] spies8owen: He called my choice of Mary fishy today, then said he "wasn't saying Owen is a bad guy."
[02:30] spies8owen: Fence sitting on me.
[02:30] spies8owen: Though, others kinda forced him into giving his overall opinion of me.
[02:31] spies8jenny: He was trying to say it was fishy but not suspicious.
[02:31] spies8jenny: I'm not sure if he realizes they're synonyms or not.
[02:31] spies8owen: Hahahaha
[02:31] spies8owen: I don't think it was a poor decision. Tina didn't want to be selected and Mary is the one I had talked about Isaac to the most after that.
[02:32] spies8jenny: I personally agreed with it, since Mary's always come off cit to me.
[02:33] spies8owen: I had two good nights of conversation with her back to back leading up to my decision, so yeah, I don't see what's fishy about it. Especially considering I feel like she gave me the most legitimate stuff on Isaac. Claude's stuff was a little over the top, her stuff wasn't reaching for reasons.
[02:33] spies8owen: /shortrant
[02:33] spies8owen: No caps though.
[02:33] spies8jenny: Or 36 point font.
[02:34] spies8owen: What exactly set you off?
[02:34] spies8owen: Nvm.
[02:34] spies8owen: Cinn.
[02:35] spies8owen: She mentioned you not saving Sav the other night.
[02:35] spies8owen: I told her that you DID try to patch things up with Sav and I.
[02:35] spies8jenny: I've been hearing this nonsense ever since that exile happened about "Oh, I shouldn't have said Al's claim, he wasn't in danger, why didn't I try to help the others if I thought they were cit" and I'm flattered that they think I'm that much of a great speaking, but what in blazes do these people think I was going to be able to do?
[02:35] spies8owen: Told me when she was on so we could work things out, etc.
[02:35] spies8owen: I just said you didn't really PUSH for an alternative.
[02:35] spies8owen: Which is true.
[02:36] spies8jenny: Because, yeah that was going to happen. I was going to be able to get people to completely change their minds on not one, not two, but three people in about an hour from practically nothing.
[02:37] spies8owen: I don't think you alone were going to be able to change the vote.
[02:37] spies8owen: Agreed.
[02:37] spies8jenny: Unless Sam was about to give me 3 investigative results, that was not happening.
[02:38] spies8jenny: And yet, that's what everyone seems to think I should have been able to accomplish, and then try to say I'm suspicious because I'm not a bloody miracle worker.
[02:39] spies8owen: It's definitely not something I suspect you for. My reasons for suspecting you is admittedly playstyle.
[02:39] spies8owen: Which as you saw last time, wasn't enough to lynch you.
[02:39] spies8jenny: At the very least, Hammy comes to mind with that one, and I know there are others with that as well besides Spice.
[02:39] spies8owen: It would have felt wrong lynching someone on playstyle when there's someone who is doing scummy things.
[02:41] spies8owen: Because, by god, I've looked for stuff on you -- and it always comes back to playstyle.
[02:41] spies8jenny: Which is why I don't really see you being a spy at all. The whole thing with the spy messenger, and that being a really good time to get rid of a citizen, without getting much of the blame, and then picking a spy anyways, unless you're trey I don't see that happening from a spy.
[02:41] spies8owen: LOL
[02:42] spies8owen: Trey reference is what cracked me up.
[02:42] spies8jenny:
[02:43] spies8owen: One of my first few thoughts when I picked Mary was "did I just give Trey voting power?" Yay for pessimism. My first thought is that I made the wrong decision. My second thought is she's a busser. My third thought... Trey?
[02:44] spies8owen: But fortunately I'm only pessimistic until I think things over.
[02:44] spies8jenny: But yeah, that's why I got sick of it earlier. Spice just happened to be the one pushing it, when I finally got tired of that ridiculous argument.
[02:45] spies8owen: You can do it Jenny!
[02:45] spies8owen: SWITCH UP THE VOTE.
[02:45] spies8owen: If you don't switch this next vote up dramatically... you're scummy.
[02:45] spies8owen: You must convince everyone to vote who you want.
[02:46] spies8jenny: Maybe if I develop some over-the-internet mind control powers tonight.
[02:47] spies8jenny: Or at least Jedi Mind Tricks.
[02:47] spies8jenny: Certainly seems like there's enough weak minded around here for that to work on.
[02:47] spies8jenny: Some days, I tell ya.
[02:50] spies8jenny: And with the kind of timing that makes me think someone has a sense of humor, Maggie comes on.
[02:57] spies8jenny: On the bright side, as ridiculous as the stuff on me is, at least I haven't had to be nervous about imprisonments lately. Not much chance of me getting imprisoned if they think I'd be an easy exile.
[03:03] spies8owen: Mmhmm, I highly doubt you'd be imprisoned.
[03:03] spies8owen: I feel like one my immunty runs out, I'll be heading out.
[03:03] spies8owen: once*
[03:04] spies8owen: I don't think anyone suspects me.
[03:04] spies8owen: So there's not much of a chance at getting me mislynched.
[03:04] spies8owen: Only one other way to get rid of a citizen.
[03:11] spies8jenny: Well let's hope not at least.
Friday, July 9, 2010 14:52:45
[14:52] spies8jenny: Hi Owen!
[14:53] spies8owen: Hey Jenny, how goes it?
[14:53] spies8jenny: At work, but it's rather slow right now. So I might as well be getting paid to play spies right now.
[14:53] spies8jenny: Dane is rather upset with Mary as you can see.
[14:54] spies8jenny: Apparently Mary didn't want to talk to him when he was trying to ask her questions about things earlier, and then went "Fine if she doesn't want to discuss anything with me I won't give her the option."
[14:55] spies8jenny: Hopefully he'll let it drop later, since that's never a good long term plan.
[14:55] spies8jenny: But I'm really not sure why Mary would be refusing to talk to Dane.
[14:57] spies8jenny: Maybe you can talk with her and see what's going on there.
[14:59] spies8owen: Dane messaged me about it.
[14:59] spies8owen: He's messaged everyone about it, I'm sure.
[14:59] spies8owen: I'm trying to discuss other things with Mary and then have him having me play messenger to her.
[14:59] spies8owen: Blah.
[15:10] spies8jenny: And what is with everyone always being smug with each other in the group chat. That's not going to help anything.
[15:11] spies8owen: I've come to the conclusion over my time on the internet that some people are just assholes.
[15:11] spies8owen: Much moreso on the net.
[15:12] spies8jenny: Well that much is stating the obvious, but it still seems like it's moreso then what I normally see.
[15:37] spies8owen: *adds another person to the list of people who Dane has fought with*
[15:38] spies8owen: You'd think he has the task of getting into altercations.
[15:38] spies8jenny: I think that's just the way he is though, like how Ni-Ni could be incredibly stubborn about things.
[16:14] spies8jenny: On the bright side, at least it's with several people, and not just one specific person for 5 episodes.
[16:47] spies8jenny: Have to head out in a few minutes to leave work.
Saturday, July 10, 2010 01:50:58
[01:50] spies8jenny: Hi Owen!
[01:51] spies8owen: Hey Jenny.
[01:51] spies8owen: Well, since I just told Allan.
[01:51] spies8owen: I got a message today right after imp.
[01:51] spies8owen: hi owen it's me again, you were supposed to pretend like gabe was the dr ~! allan passed the test and you failed he is pissed at you now and thinks you could be a spy but idk dont really think soz. we know about L and her friend and the exile protecter too thanks to nitts. she says isaac had a role but she doesn't know what. im out of words. good luck
[01:51] spies8owen: Again, MORE BULLSHIT!
[01:51] spies8owen: Nitts? Nitts?
[01:51] spies8owen: And then "I'm out of words. good luck"
[01:51] spies8owen: Why waste time on that?
[01:52] spies8jenny: That was just painful to read.
[01:52] spies8owen: I know.
[01:52] spies8jenny: My poor head.
[01:52] spies8owen: I laughed through it.
[01:52] spies8owen: It was the only way I wouldn't get angry.
[01:53] spies8owen: Insulting our intelligence, really.
[01:53] spies8jenny: Trying to decide if the stupidity in there implies the exile protector being a town role though.
[01:54] spies8jenny: As ridiculous as Ni-Ni ever finding out about it, let alone her telling the spies about it is, it does imply that they would have to have found out about it.
[01:54] spies8owen: I think Nita
[01:54] spies8owen: Is away for the week.
[01:54] spies8owen: That's the best part.
[01:54] spies8jenny: She just got back today
[01:54] spies8owen: LOL
[01:54] spies8jenny: As far as I know
[01:54] spies8owen: I highly doubt she had time to spill all of that.
[01:54] spies8jenny: She said she'd be out til Friday
[01:55] spies8owen: Ridiculous.
[01:55] spies8jenny: Not to mention completely ignoring what she was.
[01:55] spies8owen: I was gonna respond to the message with "ROFL"
[01:55] spies8owen: Still contemplating it.
[01:56] spies8jenny: Plus side, I think we can assume it's not Lawry.
[01:56] spies8jenny: Since he's been away.
[01:59] spies8jenny: Just so much ridiculousness in it.
[02:00] spies8jenny: It's still trying to pretend to be Savanny?
[02:00] spies8jenny: That doesn't even remotely look like how she talked.
[02:05] spies8owen: Yep, still using the guise of Savannah.
[02:05] spies8owen: She talked nothing like that.
[02:05] spies8owen: It's truly insulting if they want me to believe that.
[02:06] spies8jenny: I half want to tell them that I'll roast their carcasses over an open fire, and leave them for the birds to peck on for how badly they're representing Savanny.
[02:07] spies8owen: LOL
[02:07] spies8jenny: But that wouldn't really accomplish much.
[02:08] spies8owen: You could if you'd like. I'll put that as part of my response.
[02:08] spies8jenny: Ask them if they prefer to be marinated in cow dung or pig dung.
Saturday, July 10, 2010 22:16:37
[22:16] spies8jenny: Did you see who just got their vote back?
[22:16] spies8owen: Unfortunately.
[22:17] spies8jenny: Oy.
[22:17] spies8owen: Breathe in, breathe out.
[22:21] spies8owen: She was the one clear name I had in my head at the moment to get nominated.
[22:22] spies8owen: Otherwise, I'm unsure how to approach all of this.
[22:22] spies8jenny: Well she can still get nominated.
[22:22] spies8jenny: It's not like her getting a vote changes that.
[22:22] spies8owen: Yep, and is only gonna be 1/5th of the vote.
[22:23] spies8owen: Has anyone had any theories about why she was given the vote?
[22:23] spies8owen: It makes sense they'd give it to her regardless of her alignment.
[22:23] spies8jenny: Well my own theories are that either she's a spy and figure nobody will call on it, or that the spies are hoping she'll end up exiling herself.
[22:38] spies8jenny: I'm just staying out of that group chat.
[22:38] spies8jenny: Maybe when everyone is done with Beverly Hills 90210.
[22:41] spies8owen: Beverly Hills 90210w(e)ned.
[22:42] spies8owen: I've actually said that in my head after lynching correctly. I was hoping not to ever have to say it to someone in the game to not embarrass myself.
[22:42] spies8owen: But alas, you had to say Beverly Hills 90210.
[22:42] spies8jenny:
[23:18] spies8owen: Who do you think you'll be nominating this time?
[23:20] spies8jenny: Oh man, I'm still trying to figure that out.
[23:20] spies8owen: I'm right there with you (on who I want to see nominated)
[23:20] spies8jenny: I actually was considering going back to maggie earlier, even before this while thing with her came up.
[23:21] spies8owen: I'd like you to consider something that Tina and I thought of yesterday.
[23:21] spies8owen:
spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=809[23:21] spies8jenny: the thing about nobody voting her yesterday?
[23:21] spies8owen: Does that make you think another spy was in that group of new democrats?
[23:21] spies8owen: new repubs*
[23:22] spies8jenny: Oh no this is the topic Isaac made.
[23:22] spies8owen: Mmhmm.
[23:22] spies8owen: He seems overly protective of the ex-Democrats.
[23:23] spies8owen: At the time, there wasn't much pressure on him.
[23:23] spies8jenny: Not sure really. It's possible, but it might have just been a genuine frustration simply because of himself as well. It's kind of hard to tell since I'm not sure of the extent of who was on who then.
[23:23] spies8owen: It was on Law.
[23:23] spies8jenny: Hmmm.
[23:24] spies8owen: I was frustrated about similar things, but I didn't feel like it was big enough to where someone needed to post a huge speech about it on the Burg.
[23:27] spies8owen: When he was asked in episode 3 by a few people he said Isaac or Themba. However, before saying that he said that Jasmine was the most suspicious to him, he had done no investigating on Isaac yet, had a gut feeling about Brod.
[23:27] spies8owen: No investigating = worth a vote.
[23:27] spies8owen: When you think Jasmine is most suspicious?
[23:27] spies8owen: Then he ends up voting Stephi.
[23:27] spies8owen: Law, that is.
[23:28] spies8jenny: I was wondering who you were talking about there yeah.
[23:28] spies8owen: Just seemed like a bunch of distancing.
[23:28] spies8jenny: Possibly. It's been hard for me to get much from him with the guy gone so much.
[23:28] spies8owen: Very true
[23:29] spies8owen: He did actually have a few good thoughts in his "investigating."
[23:29] spies8owen: But he's not on AIM enough.
[23:29] spies8owen: He does a lot of reading though.
[23:31] spies8owen: (11:13:35 PM) spies8broderick: rofl. such a talkative senate def gives a sense of faith and 'we know what we're doing'
[23:31] spies8owen: I really do not like him.
[23:31] spies8owen: He and Dane make me want to avoid the chats.
[23:32] spies8jenny: As for the topic itself, it looks like Jas agreed with him a bit, so it looks like there was at least some general feeling about it.
[23:33] spies8owen: I've been extremely calm and quiet about how much they irk me, but I'm not sure how much longer I can do that.
[23:33] spies8owen: Broderick is a borderline bully who likes to get our spirits down and Dane is so immmature that he has to block people.
[23:33] spies8owen: I can't deal.
[23:36] spies8owen: I'm expecting a 16pt font all caps rant from myself soon.
[23:37] spies8jenny: Dane I can understand a little of his frustration from at the time, since Mary apparently expected him to be willing to talk about suspects, after refusing to say so herself at the time.
Worth blocking over? Not really, but I can see why it'd be a little annoying.
[23:38] spies8owen: Apparently Dane had avoided telling her stuff previously.
[23:38] spies8owen: So she was wary of saying anything since imprisonment was coming up.
[23:39] spies8jenny: Well it looks like the two of them have more or less worked it out now, which is good.
[23:44] spies8jenny: What'd you end up doing with that horrible Savanny impersonator?
[23:47] spies8owen: Haven't responded.
[23:47] spies8owen: Oh crap.
[23:47] spies8owen: Wait, I still have another day.
[00:03] spies8jenny: Apparently Al is paranoid about there being more tasks around.
[00:06] spies8jenny: [00:03] spies8jenny: Speaking of which.
[00:03] spies8jenny: Apparently Al is paranoid about there being more tasks around.
Meebo ate one of them, don't feel like researching which.