Episode 4 - Conversations
Jul 4, 2010 1:41:07 GMT -6
Post by Gertrude on Jul 4, 2010 1:41:07 GMT -6
[23:25] spies8tina: Hello.
[23:28] spies8gertrude: Hey there, Tina! Sorry, I wasn't on the computer for a bit.
[23:28] spies8gertrude: How are you?
[23:28] spies8tina: Decent, conflicted but decent.
[23:29] spies8gertrude: Conflicted?
[23:29] spies8tina: What did you get out of Isaac-Jasmine-Law when they were dems with you?
[23:29] spies8gertrude: Hm.
[23:29] spies8tina: Those three give me a headache.
[23:30] spies8gertrude: I personally didn't like Isaac. During one of the first chats, where Camilla and Chance were going at it with Claude, Isaac would have one biting thing to say to Claude every five minutes or so, and it was really odd and unnecessary.
[23:31] spies8gertrude: Lawrence was hardly ever around. He apparently does his homework, though, with his suspicion threads.
[23:32] spies8gertrude: And Jasmine, at first, seemed to piggyback on everything Cinnamyn said. That quickly faded though, as she and Chance had some sort of falling out.
[23:32] spies8gertrude: From then on it was just petty attacks at each other.
[23:32] spies8tina: Did anything ever happen between Chance and Isaac?
[23:32] spies8tina: That was an odd relationship from what I found.
[23:33] spies8gertrude: Not... that I know of?
[23:33] spies8tina: Ok. I just had a conversation with Isaac where he said if Chance lurked the way he did E2 and was not immune it would have been enough to get him his vote over Claude.
[23:34] spies8tina: Was Isaac a big "lynch all lurkers" proponent?
[23:35] spies8gertrude: Again, not that I can remember. He wasn't really a factor for much of the time
[23:37] spies8tina: So who do you really suspect at this point? It seems you have little opinion on the dems that left.
[23:38] spies8gertrude: That's a good question.
[23:39] spies8gertrude: But also I'd disagree.
[23:39] spies8gertrude: I do have an opinion on at least Isaac.
[23:40] spies8tina: Which is?
[23:40] spies8gertrude: The answer to your question. I suspect him. I suspected him back then, and I suspect him now.
[23:40] spies8gertrude: One second, addressing Broderick really quickly.
[23:42] spies8gertrude: Okay, so maybe that satisfied him.
[23:42] spies8gertrude: I also suspect Rondak
[23:43] spies8gertrude: And maybe Jenny.
[23:43] spies8tina: When did you become suspect of Isaac? I do not see that from you anywhere.
[23:43] spies8gertrude: Yes, I do have a problem with that.
[23:43] spies8gertrude: I didn't do a good job voicing my thoughts for a while
[23:44] spies8gertrude: However, in group chats and one-on-one, I began to slip in questions concerning Isaac and a few other people.
[23:44] spies8tina: Well what are your points on him. Key bullet ones.
[23:50] spies8gertrude: I don't have any. I know other people do, but I'm not going to forge their thoughts. My main thing is that his actions in Episode 1 were bizarre, unnecessary, and scummy to me.
[23:50] spies8tina: Any "this general type of thing" at least?
[23:53] spies8gertrude: General bandwagoning (not during votes, but chats), generally odd behavior, and generally defensive stances
[23:53] spies8tina: Heh. Nice "generals".
[23:53] spies8gertrude: Thank you. I put a lot of thought into them.
[23:54] spies8tina: He is one of my questions. I think he can easily be spy at this point, and if he was it would start making people that used be be unkown prob-cit.
[23:54] spies8gertrude: Like who?
[23:55] spies8tina: Lawrence and Jasmine become super likely citizen.
[23:55] spies8tina: Same with Claude.
[23:55] spies8gertrude: Interesting. Why is that?
[23:55] spies8tina: Jasmine and Claude obvious yes?
[23:55] spies8gertrude: And, if I may ask, where am I on the spectrum?
[23:55] spies8tina: What spectrum?
[23:56] spies8gertrude: Well, not necessarily.
[23:56] spies8gertrude: Of Cit to Spy.
[23:56] spies8tina: Pretty neutral. No one on new-reps talked about you.
[23:56] spies8tina: I just have past votes to go off of.
[23:57] spies8gertrude: Mm.
[23:57] spies8gertrude: In my mind, that makes me suspect.
[23:59] spies8gertrude: Plus I'm Immune from Exile.
[00:02] spies8tina: Being immune means very little. Someone who thinks it is is foolish.
[00:03] spies8gertrude: I should quote you on that.
[00:04] spies8tina: Well, it is what Jenny called WFIOM.
[00:04] spies8gertrude: Close enough,
[00:04] spies8gertrude: WIFOM*
[00:04] spies8tina: It can be done to frame a cit.
[00:05] spies8tina: I can see a cit doing it to someone who they think is outside chance of being exiled they have a cit read on.
[00:25] spies8tina: Anyway, was that a drawn out way of saying you are nomming Isaac?
[00:25] spies8gertrude: I honestly haven't decided.
[00:25] spies8tina: Well, your temporary vote at least.
[00:26] spies8gertrude: Yes.
[00:26] spies8tina: Who else are you considering?
[00:26] spies8gertrude: It depends on what Claude does with his role
[00:27] spies8tina: What if Claude targets non-Owen, which I think is what is happening.
[00:27] spies8tina: I think I heard someone say he was targeting Allan afterall.
[00:27] spies8tina: Need to look back through logs though.
[00:27] spies8gertrude: Then I won't have any current qualms with Claude.
[00:27] spies8tina: So anyone apart from Claude?
[00:28] spies8gertrude: Sure. I could see myself nominating Magalie again, Jenny, or Rondak.
[00:29] spies8tina: Isaac is your top pick though?
[00:29] spies8tina: More or less in the order you said them?
[00:29] spies8gertrude: Yes ma'am.
[00:29] spies8gertrude: Um..
[00:29] spies8gertrude: I'm not sure about the second bit.
[00:30] spies8gertrude: But I don't know. So, sure, let's go with that.
[00:30] spies8tina: Heh.
[00:30] spies8tina: During second vote you said you were somewhat suspect of Isaac?
[00:31] spies8gertrude: I'm sorry, is that a question or a statement?
[00:31] spies8tina: Statement I am checking if its true.
[00:32] spies8gertrude: Yes, then.
[00:33] spies8tina: Were you discussing it with others then? I just am wondering what was going on with him this whole time.
[00:33] spies8tina: I saw a small wagon show up on him E2, then he came over to reps, at one point appeared to be vote leader, then only got one vote.
[00:34] spies8tina: Trying to figure out what the main points on him were.
[00:34] spies8tina: Jasmine isn't much help, linking to logs is not a case.
[00:34] spies8tina: Her and Isaac need to learn that.
(At this point I got tired of answering her questions, was rude to Broderick, and logged off.)
~~~~~
[23:26] spies8owen: Hello Gertrude.
[23:28] spies8gertrude: Hey there, Owen!
[23:28] spies8gertrude: Sorry about that, I was away from the keyboard for a while
[23:29] spies8owen: Were you kidnapped?
[23:31] spies8gertrude: Should I have been..?
[23:33] spies8owen: No, I'm not claiming kidnapper to you.
[23:33] spies8owen:
[23:33] spies8owen: Anyway, how's it going?
[23:33] spies8gertrude: Oh, ha.
[23:33] spies8gertrude: I'm doing all right. I'm watching BBUK right now. Yourself, sire?
[23:34] spies8owen: Ohhh, another BBUK watcher. Excellent.
[23:34] spies8owen: I'm a bit stressed.
[23:34] spies8gertrude: Mm. I would be too. I'd read a good book, but I guess my suggestion would be to go for a run?
[23:35] spies8owen: I haven't read a book since Amelia Bedelia.
[23:35] spies8gertrude: Get out of town!
[23:35] spies8gertrude: *leaves*
[23:36] spies8gertrude: No? Ok.
[23:37] spies8owen: I'm dictator. I make those rules.
[23:38] spies8owen: I'll probably be responsible for more citizen deaths than Pol Pot.
[23:38] spies8owen:
[23:38] spies8gertrude: I'm an English teacher, not history.
[23:38] spies8gertrude: Cambodia..?
[23:39] spies8owen: I'm a gym teacher, not geography.
[23:39] spies8gertrude: Touché.
[23:39] spies8owen: I bleed red, white, and blue. In that order.
[23:39] spies8owen: And stars and stripes and glitter and shit.
[23:40] spies8gertrude: How could you not be happy when you have glitter and ribbons?
[23:43] spies8owen: You bring up a good point.
[23:45] spies8owen: You're excused for the moment. Bored...Broderick is grilling you.
[23:45] spies8owen: I know how it is.
[23:45] spies8gertrude: Thank you, sire.
[23:45] spies8gertrude: Tina is, as well.
[23:45] spies8owen: Tina is a beast.
[23:46] spies8owen: In a good way, of course.
[23:46] spies8owen: I'm not talking about her mangled knee or whatever.
[23:54] spies8gertrude: I dislike Broderick.
[23:54] spies8gertrude: I feel like while interrogating people, he (intentionally or not) bullies them at the same time, which hinders the outcome.
[23:56] spies8owen: I've noticed he asks the same question over and over.
[23:56] spies8gertrude: Yes.
[23:56] spies8gertrude: Which only frustrates his target
[23:56] spies8owen: When he interrogated me, I wasn't feelin' it.
[23:56] spies8owen: I don't mind being questioned, but he twisted some things.
[23:57] spies8owen: I was telling him that it's dumb for a citizen to lie, etc.
[23:57] spies8owen: And he twisted it into "so you think that it's stupid to lie if you have a role as a citizen?
[23:57] spies8owen: "
[23:57] spies8owen: Which is a completely different subject.
[23:58] spies8gertrude: Indeed.
[23:58] spies8gertrude: Claude does things similar to that.
[23:58] spies8gertrude: I find myself often saying, "I didn't say that. Let me clarify."
[23:28] spies8gertrude: Hey there, Tina! Sorry, I wasn't on the computer for a bit.
[23:28] spies8gertrude: How are you?
[23:28] spies8tina: Decent, conflicted but decent.
[23:29] spies8gertrude: Conflicted?
[23:29] spies8tina: What did you get out of Isaac-Jasmine-Law when they were dems with you?
[23:29] spies8gertrude: Hm.
[23:29] spies8tina: Those three give me a headache.
[23:30] spies8gertrude: I personally didn't like Isaac. During one of the first chats, where Camilla and Chance were going at it with Claude, Isaac would have one biting thing to say to Claude every five minutes or so, and it was really odd and unnecessary.
[23:31] spies8gertrude: Lawrence was hardly ever around. He apparently does his homework, though, with his suspicion threads.
[23:32] spies8gertrude: And Jasmine, at first, seemed to piggyback on everything Cinnamyn said. That quickly faded though, as she and Chance had some sort of falling out.
[23:32] spies8gertrude: From then on it was just petty attacks at each other.
[23:32] spies8tina: Did anything ever happen between Chance and Isaac?
[23:32] spies8tina: That was an odd relationship from what I found.
[23:33] spies8gertrude: Not... that I know of?
[23:33] spies8tina: Ok. I just had a conversation with Isaac where he said if Chance lurked the way he did E2 and was not immune it would have been enough to get him his vote over Claude.
[23:34] spies8tina: Was Isaac a big "lynch all lurkers" proponent?
[23:35] spies8gertrude: Again, not that I can remember. He wasn't really a factor for much of the time
[23:37] spies8tina: So who do you really suspect at this point? It seems you have little opinion on the dems that left.
[23:38] spies8gertrude: That's a good question.
[23:39] spies8gertrude: But also I'd disagree.
[23:39] spies8gertrude: I do have an opinion on at least Isaac.
[23:40] spies8tina: Which is?
[23:40] spies8gertrude: The answer to your question. I suspect him. I suspected him back then, and I suspect him now.
[23:40] spies8gertrude: One second, addressing Broderick really quickly.
[23:42] spies8gertrude: Okay, so maybe that satisfied him.
[23:42] spies8gertrude: I also suspect Rondak
[23:43] spies8gertrude: And maybe Jenny.
[23:43] spies8tina: When did you become suspect of Isaac? I do not see that from you anywhere.
[23:43] spies8gertrude: Yes, I do have a problem with that.
[23:43] spies8gertrude: I didn't do a good job voicing my thoughts for a while
[23:44] spies8gertrude: However, in group chats and one-on-one, I began to slip in questions concerning Isaac and a few other people.
[23:44] spies8tina: Well what are your points on him. Key bullet ones.
[23:50] spies8gertrude: I don't have any. I know other people do, but I'm not going to forge their thoughts. My main thing is that his actions in Episode 1 were bizarre, unnecessary, and scummy to me.
[23:50] spies8tina: Any "this general type of thing" at least?
[23:53] spies8gertrude: General bandwagoning (not during votes, but chats), generally odd behavior, and generally defensive stances
[23:53] spies8tina: Heh. Nice "generals".
[23:53] spies8gertrude: Thank you. I put a lot of thought into them.
[23:54] spies8tina: He is one of my questions. I think he can easily be spy at this point, and if he was it would start making people that used be be unkown prob-cit.
[23:54] spies8gertrude: Like who?
[23:55] spies8tina: Lawrence and Jasmine become super likely citizen.
[23:55] spies8tina: Same with Claude.
[23:55] spies8gertrude: Interesting. Why is that?
[23:55] spies8tina: Jasmine and Claude obvious yes?
[23:55] spies8gertrude: And, if I may ask, where am I on the spectrum?
[23:55] spies8tina: What spectrum?
[23:56] spies8gertrude: Well, not necessarily.
[23:56] spies8gertrude: Of Cit to Spy.
[23:56] spies8tina: Pretty neutral. No one on new-reps talked about you.
[23:56] spies8tina: I just have past votes to go off of.
[23:57] spies8gertrude: Mm.
[23:57] spies8gertrude: In my mind, that makes me suspect.
[23:59] spies8gertrude: Plus I'm Immune from Exile.
[00:02] spies8tina: Being immune means very little. Someone who thinks it is is foolish.
[00:03] spies8gertrude: I should quote you on that.
[00:04] spies8tina: Well, it is what Jenny called WFIOM.
[00:04] spies8gertrude: Close enough,
[00:04] spies8gertrude: WIFOM*
[00:04] spies8tina: It can be done to frame a cit.
[00:05] spies8tina: I can see a cit doing it to someone who they think is outside chance of being exiled they have a cit read on.
[00:25] spies8tina: Anyway, was that a drawn out way of saying you are nomming Isaac?
[00:25] spies8gertrude: I honestly haven't decided.
[00:25] spies8tina: Well, your temporary vote at least.
[00:26] spies8gertrude: Yes.
[00:26] spies8tina: Who else are you considering?
[00:26] spies8gertrude: It depends on what Claude does with his role
[00:27] spies8tina: What if Claude targets non-Owen, which I think is what is happening.
[00:27] spies8tina: I think I heard someone say he was targeting Allan afterall.
[00:27] spies8tina: Need to look back through logs though.
[00:27] spies8gertrude: Then I won't have any current qualms with Claude.
[00:27] spies8tina: So anyone apart from Claude?
[00:28] spies8gertrude: Sure. I could see myself nominating Magalie again, Jenny, or Rondak.
[00:29] spies8tina: Isaac is your top pick though?
[00:29] spies8tina: More or less in the order you said them?
[00:29] spies8gertrude: Yes ma'am.
[00:29] spies8gertrude: Um..
[00:29] spies8gertrude: I'm not sure about the second bit.
[00:30] spies8gertrude: But I don't know. So, sure, let's go with that.
[00:30] spies8tina: Heh.
[00:30] spies8tina: During second vote you said you were somewhat suspect of Isaac?
[00:31] spies8gertrude: I'm sorry, is that a question or a statement?
[00:31] spies8tina: Statement I am checking if its true.
[00:32] spies8gertrude: Yes, then.
[00:33] spies8tina: Were you discussing it with others then? I just am wondering what was going on with him this whole time.
[00:33] spies8tina: I saw a small wagon show up on him E2, then he came over to reps, at one point appeared to be vote leader, then only got one vote.
[00:34] spies8tina: Trying to figure out what the main points on him were.
[00:34] spies8tina: Jasmine isn't much help, linking to logs is not a case.
[00:34] spies8tina: Her and Isaac need to learn that.
(At this point I got tired of answering her questions, was rude to Broderick, and logged off.)
~~~~~
[23:26] spies8owen: Hello Gertrude.
[23:28] spies8gertrude: Hey there, Owen!
[23:28] spies8gertrude: Sorry about that, I was away from the keyboard for a while
[23:29] spies8owen: Were you kidnapped?
[23:31] spies8gertrude: Should I have been..?
[23:33] spies8owen: No, I'm not claiming kidnapper to you.
[23:33] spies8owen:
[23:33] spies8owen: Anyway, how's it going?
[23:33] spies8gertrude: Oh, ha.
[23:33] spies8gertrude: I'm doing all right. I'm watching BBUK right now. Yourself, sire?
[23:34] spies8owen: Ohhh, another BBUK watcher. Excellent.
[23:34] spies8owen: I'm a bit stressed.
[23:34] spies8gertrude: Mm. I would be too. I'd read a good book, but I guess my suggestion would be to go for a run?
[23:35] spies8owen: I haven't read a book since Amelia Bedelia.
[23:35] spies8gertrude: Get out of town!
[23:35] spies8gertrude: *leaves*
[23:36] spies8gertrude: No? Ok.
[23:37] spies8owen: I'm dictator. I make those rules.
[23:38] spies8owen: I'll probably be responsible for more citizen deaths than Pol Pot.
[23:38] spies8owen:
[23:38] spies8gertrude: I'm an English teacher, not history.
[23:38] spies8gertrude: Cambodia..?
[23:39] spies8owen: I'm a gym teacher, not geography.
[23:39] spies8gertrude: Touché.
[23:39] spies8owen: I bleed red, white, and blue. In that order.
[23:39] spies8owen: And stars and stripes and glitter and shit.
[23:40] spies8gertrude: How could you not be happy when you have glitter and ribbons?
[23:43] spies8owen: You bring up a good point.
[23:45] spies8owen: You're excused for the moment. Bored...Broderick is grilling you.
[23:45] spies8owen: I know how it is.
[23:45] spies8gertrude: Thank you, sire.
[23:45] spies8gertrude: Tina is, as well.
[23:45] spies8owen: Tina is a beast.
[23:46] spies8owen: In a good way, of course.
[23:46] spies8owen: I'm not talking about her mangled knee or whatever.
[23:54] spies8gertrude: I dislike Broderick.
[23:54] spies8gertrude: I feel like while interrogating people, he (intentionally or not) bullies them at the same time, which hinders the outcome.
[23:56] spies8owen: I've noticed he asks the same question over and over.
[23:56] spies8gertrude: Yes.
[23:56] spies8gertrude: Which only frustrates his target
[23:56] spies8owen: When he interrogated me, I wasn't feelin' it.
[23:56] spies8owen: I don't mind being questioned, but he twisted some things.
[23:57] spies8owen: I was telling him that it's dumb for a citizen to lie, etc.
[23:57] spies8owen: And he twisted it into "so you think that it's stupid to lie if you have a role as a citizen?
[23:57] spies8owen: "
[23:57] spies8owen: Which is a completely different subject.
[23:58] spies8gertrude: Indeed.
[23:58] spies8gertrude: Claude does things similar to that.
[23:58] spies8gertrude: I find myself often saying, "I didn't say that. Let me clarify."