~~Claude~~
July 17, 2010
(10:59:26 PM) spies8Cory: You there?
(10:59:31 PM) spies8claude: I am.
(10:59:34 PM) spies8Cory: Ok
(10:59:48 PM) spies8Cory: Got a few things to tell you.
(10:59:55 PM) spies8claude: Go ahead.
(10:59:59 PM) spies8Cory: 1) I am the Doctor
(11:00:06 PM) spies8Cory: 2) Owen is a Citizen
(11:00:12 PM) spies8Cory: 3) Hi
(11:00:19 PM) spies8claude: What does 2 have to do with 1.
(11:00:35 PM) spies8Cory: You know how you're sure I am a Citizen based on subtle shit like my confessional comment?
(11:00:43 PM) spies8claude: Sure.
(11:00:52 PM) spies8Cory: When I claimed to Owen his initial reaction was "Holy shit so Nita was your save?"
(11:00:56 PM) spies8Cory: Which was entirely incorrect
(11:01:08 PM) spies8Cory: As a Spy he would know who it was
(11:01:17 PM) spies8claude: You don't think a Spy would just play dumb there?
(11:01:23 PM) spies8Cory: It took him all of two seconds to type it out
(11:01:26 PM) spies8Cory: It was a reaction
(11:01:28 PM) spies8claude: Hmm.
(11:01:30 PM) spies8claude: Alright.
(11:01:34 PM) spies8Cory: There's other stuff, as well
(11:01:41 PM) spies8Cory: For example, Lilith
(11:01:42 PM) spies8Cory: Was a setup
(11:01:48 PM) spies8Cory: All Owen's doing
(11:01:57 PM) spies8claude: What do you mean?
(11:01:57 PM) spies8Cory: He basically wasted an imprisonment if he is a Spy. Lol.
(11:02:11 PM) spies8Cory: It was Owen & Lilith's idea to make her run around screaming that she was the doctor.
(11:02:22 PM) spies8Cory: To keep Tina from getting axed.
(11:02:38 PM) spies8claude: So, why are you telling me this?
(11:02:48 PM) spies8Cory: Because I'm going to get imprisoned next week more than liekly
(11:02:50 PM) spies8Cory: Tina is gone
(11:02:51 PM) spies8Cory: She knew
(11:03:06 PM) spies8claude: Who did you save?
(11:03:09 PM) spies8Cory: Gabriel
(11:03:11 PM) spies8Cory: Episode two
(11:03:34 PM) spies8Cory: Owen learned of Allan's message the same night I told him about it
(11:03:40 PM) spies8Cory: So we knew it was bullshit from the start.
(11:03:54 PM) spies8claude: Seems like a weird save target.
(11:03:54 PM) spies8Cory: As for why I picked Gabriel
(11:04:04 PM) spies8Cory: It was a somewhat selfish choice
(11:04:12 PM) spies8Cory: I had chosen Cinnamyn for episode one, but there was no imprisonment of course
(11:04:18 PM) spies8Cory: I wanted to keep an entertaining player in
(11:04:22 PM) spies8Cory: But he also voted Alexei
(11:04:27 PM) spies8Cory: So figured he had a decent shot of getting chosen
(11:04:37 PM) spies8Cory: Then there was also Dane's stupid public post "hay doc plz save Nita"
(11:04:42 PM) spies8claude: Sigh.
(11:04:54 PM) spies8claude: I'm not sure what to think now.
(11:05:03 PM) spies8Cory: Remember when I asked you a while back
(11:05:05 PM) spies8Cory: Let me find it
(11:05:15 PM) spies8Cory: It had something to do with you assuming that Gabriel was the doctor I think
(11:05:30 PM) spies8Cory: I asked you because if you truly did assume that I found it to be a big point in your favor, because obviously I knew that was incorrect
(11:05:41 PM) spies8Cory: And the Spies would know this since he was saved.
(11:05:57 PM) spies8claude: I see.
(11:06:03 PM) spies8claude: I don't remember that conversation that well.
(11:06:36 PM) spies8Cory: (10:56:54 PM) spies8Cory: (10:46:39 PM) spies8claude: And if they were planning on imprisoning her anyway(if Jenny is a Spy), then Jenny would just out Nita immediately. This makes her look great, and very much lessens the chance of Nita getting another Doc save.
(10:57:00 PM) spies8Cory: Is your assumption here that Nita was saved?
(10:57:10 PM) spies8claude: I thought that was established fact or something
(10:57:12 PM) spies8claude: That she got saved on N1
(10:57:25 PM) spies8Cory: I think that rumor started as a result of that spy message
(11:06:42 PM) spies8Cory: Anyways, no point in me lying
(11:07:01 PM) spies8Cory: I'd have to know who the doc truly is/was to pull this off as a scum gambit
(11:07:07 PM) spies8claude: I know.
(11:07:18 PM) spies8claude: Which is unlikely, but possible. I guess it's just the timing of it that bothers me.
(11:07:24 PM) spies8claude: No way for me to verify, etc.
(11:07:30 PM) spies8claude: But I trusted you before, so.
(11:07:38 PM) spies8Cory: Well, like I said
(11:07:43 PM) spies8Cory: I'll probably be getting axed next wek
(11:07:44 PM) spies8Cory: week*
(11:07:52 PM) spies8Cory: I just need someone to know
(11:07:53 PM) spies8claude: Why you and not Owen?
(11:08:00 PM) spies8Cory: Owen's getting immunity
(11:08:06 PM) spies8Cory: That's why Tina left this week
(11:08:19 PM) spies8Cory: There's a role out there using it on him. They don't want me to say who they are.
(11:08:22 PM) spies8Cory: Otherwise I'd tell you
(11:08:57 PM) spies8claude: Immunity from..what? Exile?
(11:09:01 PM) spies8Cory: Imprisonment
(11:09:06 PM) spies8claude: lol
(11:09:14 PM) spies8claude: So there's a Doc and a role that gives imprisonment immunity?
(11:09:17 PM) spies8Cory: Oh
(11:09:18 PM) spies8Cory: Lol
(11:09:18 PM) spies8Cory: No
(11:09:25 PM) spies8Cory: I only get one save
(11:09:27 PM) spies8Cory: I'm a vanilla cit now
(11:09:45 PM) spies8claude: That's the worst Doc ever. :-(
(11:09:48 PM) spies8Cory: Yup
(11:09:51 PM) spies8Cory: Check out Spies 7
(11:09:55 PM) spies8Cory: The doc in that game worked the same way
(11:10:03 PM) spies8Cory: Sam was crafty and didn't make it public knowledge
(11:10:13 PM) spies8Cory: He even alluded to the possibility of a second save in the imprisonment 3 story
(11:10:16 PM) spies8Cory: But, alas, I am vanilla now
(11:10:30 PM) spies8Cory: Otherwise I would not be letting Owen take the immunity. Lol.
(11:10:51 PM) spies8claude: I still don't get why it's me that you're telling.
(11:10:56 PM) spies8claude: There's really no one else?
(11:11:02 PM) spies8Cory: I think you're a Citizen
(11:11:10 PM) spies8Cory: Pretty firmly
(11:11:29 PM) spies8Cory: Misguided
(11:11:31 PM) spies8Cory: But a Citizen
(11:11:35 PM) spies8claude: There have to be other people you think the same of, and I'm probably the one(or one of a very few) people that would here this from you and NOT just immediately accept it.
(11:11:49 PM) spies8Cory: Nobody as strongly as you, sadly
(11:11:49 PM) spies8claude: I guess it'll work itself out one way or another anyway.
(11:11:54 PM) spies8Cory: You based on a lot of shit
(11:11:55 PM) spies8Cory: Not just Isaac.
(11:12:16 PM) spies8Cory: I told Tina for largely the same reason
(11:12:20 PM) spies8Cory: I just had a strong feeling she was a cit
(11:12:27 PM) spies8Cory: I told Nita before Owen
(11:12:31 PM) spies8claude: chuckle
(11:12:38 PM) spies8Cory: And I hadn't planned to tell anyone until after Gabriel was eliminated
(11:12:58 PM) spies8claude: I really don't see why Gabe didn't just come forward and say he was Saved.
(11:13:04 PM) spies8Cory: He didn't know
(11:13:09 PM) spies8claude: lol
(11:13:14 PM) spies8Cory: Lol
(11:13:18 PM) spies8Cory: Poor kid
(11:13:23 PM) spies8claude: It's so inconsistent to tell everyone 'The Doc saved someone!'
(11:13:25 PM) spies8Cory: Fucking spies raped him
(11:13:27 PM) spies8claude: but not tell that person that it was them
(11:13:56 PM) spies8Cory: This also fuels my theory there's at least one good, veteran Spies player on the Spy team
(11:14:06 PM) spies8Cory: Because whoever killed Gabriel knows the doctor in Spies works this way
(11:14:19 PM) spies8claude: Just for the sake of clarity, I'm not suspicious of Owen, and I never was. I just trust him least amongst the 4 people with votes.
(11:14:20 PM) spies8Cory: Otherwise they never would have chanced a second shot at him
(11:14:29 PM) spies8claude: Yeah.
(11:15:22 PM) spies8claude: If Owen really doesn't want to lynch Chance, I'm okay with a Kiara lynch also.
(11:16:04 PM) spies8claude: I know everyone just doesn't get it, but this is just how I'm used to playing my roles. I trust my own analysis over that of anyone(and sometimes everyone) else. Sometimes it leads to dead citizens, but in general it doesn't.
(11:21:01 PM) spies8Cory: Making a chat for us