Fourth Episode Logs
Jul 6, 2010 20:01:58 GMT -6
Post by Zedekiah on Jul 6, 2010 20:01:58 GMT -6
I talked t' two good suspects an confirmed my suspicions with the others in the group. I'm a bit unsure this round
Monday, July 05, 2010
spies8zedekiah (6:23:28 PM): Hey there jenny, rushing t' go through my suspects ( and make suspects fer that matter) mind if I take a bit of yer time?
spies8jenny (6:23:36 PM): Sure!
spies8jenny (6:23:40 PM): What's up?
spies8zedekiah (6:24:29 PM): ok, how would ye say you scum hunt mostly? (one on one chats, logs, a bit of everything?)
spies8jenny (6:25:57 PM): A bit of everything really. Take a look at what's happened, and see if it makes sense for it to happen from a cit point of view, or a spy point of view. Helps me narrow down my list of who to watch that way, and if I'm lucky something will really stick out that doesn't make any sense at all as a cit.
spies8zedekiah (6:30:27 PM): You did not talk much about yer suspicion on round two, you also did not seem t' post a public vote, but for some reason yer vote does show in the thread count, can ye tell me more about yer vote on steph that round?
spies8jenny (6:31:34 PM): I wanted to vote you, but it was obvious to me that if I did that, it'd be the only one. Which is fairly useless when there's 3 other people getting voted that you don't agree for any of them as being spies. Stephi I knew was getting thought of and I was at least suspicious of her, so I tried to see if that would work. Not so much.
spies8zedekiah (6:32:36 PM): where (or how) did ye announce the vote on steph?
spies8jenny (6:32:52 PM): I talked to Themby about it, and it was also mentioned in the group chat.
spies8zedekiah (6:36:39 PM): So you did not even want t' bring up a case against me if you couldn't get an greement out o thers?
spies8jenny (6:37:41 PM): There were three cases on people I thought were cits, 2 of which I didn't even see were seriously being considered until a couple hours before the vote. I was more focused on trying to figure out how those even came up, especially the one on Savanny, and hoping to get votes off of them.
spies8zedekiah (6:40:11 PM): you have not confronted me much personally in regards t' yer supicions after day one, do you prefer not to base your case off of the suspect's words?
spies8jenny (6:42:10 PM): I just hadn't seen you around as much really. I was actually wondering where you'd been lately.
spies8zedekiah (6:42:48 PM): yeah I'm sorry about that, I've been busy.
spies8zedekiah (6:43:50 PM): so ye'd say I'm yer #1 supect for the whole game? if that's the case, why haven't ye posted a complete case on me at this point as ye did for mag?
spies8jenny (6:44:21 PM): I posted one on Maggie because it was the republican side that was going to decide the vote. I much prefer to discuss suspicions in AIM.
spies8jenny (6:44:36 PM): Can't exactly do that with the way it was set up last episode.
spies8zedekiah (6:45:56 PM): so then you like it better when an ally of your sumerizes the case after you bounce ideas off each other then.
spies8jenny (6:47:36 PM): Mostly because I'm not very good at just going "Let me make a speech for everyone about why you all should do this." If another person is able to do that and we agree on it, yay. I find it quicker to just go "Hey I'm thinking of voting Green Lantern, that whole weak to yellow thing seems weird to me. What do you think?"
spies8zedekiah (6:49:11 PM): I guess it's fine as long as it's your own ideas in the end, not a spy lead 'r somethin'
spies8zedekiah (6:49:54 PM): would you like me to explain anythin your suspect of? or is the evidence solid without input?
spies8jenny (6:51:27 PM): It's kind of why I really miss having Savanny around, we had a lot of the same ideas about things in general, and she was better at doing the whole "case" thing then I am.
And sure. I still don't get really what you were trying to explain about that first night. I remember asking you what you were doing for the couple hours after roles went out before I talked to you, and it seemed to detour into something about the night before.
spies8zedekiah (6:54:15 PM): To make it short, rather than the usual two hour explaination, I did nothing. at least nothing relevent, I could tell ye exactly what I was doing, but that's has nothing t' do with the game.
spies8zedekiah (6:54:48 PM): I closed the chat client an' thought it was over with, I didn't know I was online.
spies8jenny (6:56:20 PM): Why not jump in and start talking with a few people at least, especially since you'd been around for a while before the game started. It just seems weird that as soon as the game started, you decided that it would be a good time to take a break, when nothing up to that point would really matter as far as the actual game goes.
spies8zedekiah (7:00:31 PM): i guess I didn't really care as much as I was s'possed t', I never really chat or anythin much, I jus' figured that as you say it wouldn't matter, no team or anyhtin', I'm not goin t' catch a scum in the pre game, so why not wait t' narrow it down to half and really get things done in the game? 'sides as I said I was tired.
spies8jenny (7:02:02 PM): Okies, that's a fair enough point. But why not just say that when I asked you about it before? The whole reason it got to be such a big deal was because it turned into this giant story about things from the night before that wasn't even about when I was asking, and eventually it just started to make no sense what you were saying when it was just supposed to be a quick question.
spies8zedekiah (7:05:12 PM): I believe soemone asked for a "testamony" I was jus' playin up my character fer the game, I had already explained myself, if y'all are goin t' ask fer further clarification on why I was tired or whatever, I'll just go off and say it, relevent or not.
spies8zedekiah (7:08:02 PM): I suppose I may have misunderstood what you were asking me as well
spies8zedekiah (7:08:42 PM): [21:03] spies8jenny: How come you waited so long to talk with people last night?
[21:03] spies8alexei: ME?
[21:04] spies8alexei: sorry, caps
[21:04] spies8jenny: No I mean zeddy
[21:04] spies8alexei: ok
[21:04] spies8zedekiah: I got excited and ended up sleeping four hours...
[21:04] spies8savannah: oh i talk in caps all the time
[21:04] spies8zedekiah: I didn't htink I should be seen by folks like that
[21:04] spies8jenny: You fell asleep after roles went out?
[21:04] spies8rondak: Many apologies, I am here and ready to discuss.
[21:04] spies8savannah: lol i did too but just didnt wake up
[21:04] spies8savannah: XD
[21:04] spies8zedekiah: no the night before, only slept four hours
[21:05] spies8zedekiah: I'm fine t'day
[21:05] spies8jenny: Oh ok. But you were around lots during the opening, why not talk with people for so long after the roles went out, and the game really started?
[21:05] spies8stephanie: i talked to zeke before assignments went out
[21:07] spies8jenny: I remember you told me before that you hadn't talked with anyone yet after roles went out, and it was a couple hours after that had happened, so it seemed weird.
[21:07] spies8zedekiah: Well, I got sort of sidetracked with other stuff online, sorry I couldn't oblidge >_>
[21:07] spies8zedekiah: and I was tired, and I had closed my chat
spies8zedekiah (7:09:25 PM): I basically explained as much by this point, but after y'all asked fer further clarification it got messy
spies8zedekiah (7:13:42 PM): any other questions? about the hq thing or whatever?
spies8jenny (7:14:17 PM): Not for the moment, asking some other people stuff. Thanks though
Monday, July 05, 2010
spies8zedekiah (5:30:25 PM): howdy
spies8rondak (5:36:55 PM): I'm skirting revealing my identity here.
spies8rondak (5:37:05 PM): But I work hard labor outdoors during the summer.
spies8rondak (5:37:14 PM): And I witnessed someone almost die.
spies8zedekiah (5:37:26 PM): of exaustion?
spies8rondak (5:37:28 PM): No.
spies8rondak (5:37:39 PM): I do tree work.
spies8rondak (5:38:00 PM): Best friend was caught without harnesses sixty feet up in the air after a trunk had ripped on him.
spies8rondak (5:38:09 PM): I had to climb up to save his life.
spies8zedekiah (5:38:44 PM): wow! yer a good man
spies8rondak (5:39:01 PM): It's whatever, anyone at the job would have done it, I had harnesses attached to me so it was pretty safe.
spies8rondak (5:39:39 PM): But needless to say I wasn't in the mood for much talking after the round -- you are probably right, I should have just voted Jenny or bandwagoned Magalie, but I felt as if I knew nothing about the going ons, so I just voted NE, told Jenny my situation, and left.
spies8zedekiah (5:40:09 PM): so it was at the start of the round then?
spies8rondak (5:40:19 PM): No, it was the night of the exile.
spies8rondak (5:40:30 PM): Mid-afternoon, I believe.
spies8rondak (5:40:41 PM): Week previously I worked a 80 hour work week.
spies8zedekiah (5:41:20 PM): ah I see, hard t' get a game done anyways then
spies8rondak (5:41:35 PM): Well, yes, but I planned on using the night before to get caught up since we got off early.
spies8rondak (5:42:02 PM): But, yeah, fail at that.
spies8rondak (5:44:29 PM): Do you have anything else for me?
spies8zedekiah (5:44:53 PM): we can continue in group if youi want, I have no more to say about the last round
spies8rondak (5:45:07 PM): Have you read the chat logs for today?
spies8zedekiah (5:45:27 PM): a bit, why?
spies8rondak (5:45:56 PM): I was curious to hear your thoughts if you did.
spies8zedekiah (5:48:35 PM): Well I mostly agree on the jenny case, if you want to ask any questions on me, I'd answer, but otherwise it's basically the same as is always being brought up
spies8rondak (5:51:41 PM): Did you read the fight between Cinnamyn and I?
spies8zedekiah (5:52:14 PM): I'll do that, jus' a sec here
spies8rondak (5:52:33 PM): Alright.
spies8zedekiah (5:57:41 PM): Ok, done
spies8rondak (5:58:00 PM): I think she has some valid points, and you definitely are not my #1 suspect anymore.
spies8zedekiah (5:58:45 PM): well it usualy does sound better when I ain't sayin it.
spies8rondak (5:58:57 PM): I got a little frustrated at the whole thing, though, mainly because of the communication, and that, well, the person who was pretty behind the case (Jenny) left me out to dry.
spies8rondak (5:59:17 PM): Yes, yes it does. It was rather embarassing, but I guess that happens sometimes.
spies8zedekiah (6:00:52 PM): a few more questions, what was your reason for not announcing yer round two vote (on sav)
spies8rondak (6:01:13 PM): It was a last minute decision, literally.
spies8rondak (6:01:26 PM): I should have posted who it was between, though.
spies8zedekiah (6:02:10 PM): So would ye say yer work, etc keeps ye from making most of your own cases?
spies8rondak (6:02:32 PM): Well my work, and this is my first time playing mafia.
spies8rondak (6:02:42 PM): So I'm still getting the hang of it.
spies8rondak (6:03:00 PM): My boss goes through these spurts where he'll work us for 80 hours a week, then bitch about giving us overtime, and knock us down to 40.
spies8rondak (6:03:11 PM): So I expect to have a short week soon.
spies8rondak (6:03:23 PM): I had yesterday and today off, and as you can see, I've tried to participate in the chats and such.
spies8zedekiah (6:04:56 PM): well that's understandable. ah well this question is a bit ooc so feel free not to answer it, but if not from a mafia site where did ya hear about this sort o game?
spies8rondak (6:05:07 PM): I played in Sam's Survivor games.
spies8rondak (6:05:17 PM): And he posts advertisement on Survivor boards I visit.
spies8zedekiah (6:05:33 PM): oh, okay then
spies8zedekiah (6:05:59 PM): why did ye vote for sav?
spies8rondak (6:06:29 PM): It was a last minute bandwagon vote.
spies8rondak (6:06:41 PM): I really wasn't confident in any of the three targets (Sav, Allan, Themba)
spies8zedekiah (6:07:33 PM): so you did not feel I was suspect at that time?
spies8rondak (6:08:04 PM): I was suspicious, but I wasn't focused on you, no.
spies8rondak (6:08:51 PM): Seeing in that we exiled two cits, I think whatever we did really isn't working.
spies8zedekiah (6:10:31 PM): yeah... well thanks fer the chat, it has answered what I wanted to ask, but it sure won't be going in any confessional....
spies8rondak (6:10:51 PM): Why not?
spies8zedekiah (6:11:15 PM): eh I dun want t' make any out of character trouble
spies8rondak (6:11:18 PM): You can remove the relevant parts, if you want.
spies8rondak (6:11:29 PM): But it really won't be read for another month or two.
spies8zedekiah (6:12:43 PM): well I guess, shouldn't get ye into too much trouble with sam, well thanks rondak, later partner
spies8rondak (6:13:01 PM): Farewell, Zedekiah.
Tuesday, July 06, 2010
spies8lilith (5:50:25 PM): Hey!
spies8zedekiah (5:50:42 PM): Howdy Lilith! What's up?
spies8lilith (5:50:45 PM): I just wanted to run down my list of who looks like they'll be nominated and what I think- to see what you think as well, if you want? :-p
spies8zedekiah (5:50:56 PM): Sure
spies8lilith (5:51:49 PM): Steph I am fairly confident is a citizen, so I am not happy with that one.
Jenny I am very unsure of, she acts spyish, but some of her ACTIONS I can't see a spy ever doing. Why reveal that you KNEW Nita was a third-party. Also, if Jenny was a spy and knew, why kill someone you knew wasn't town-aligned?
spies8lilith (5:53:28 PM): I don't like the term WIFOM, because to me it sounds like an excuse, but I feel like Jenny's actions don't make sense, ALTHOUGH, I did just realize that Jenny knew a LONG time ago that Nita was a third-agent. So maybe if the spies DID talk about it for awhile, it would eventually get to them and want to kill her already. :-P... I don't know >_<.
spies8lilith (5:54:25 PM): Isaac I only thought was mafia because of him and Themba and I felt he was insincere when he said he suspected Themba.
spies8zedekiah (5:55:14 PM): I suppose so, I reckon they may have been getting rid of all the alexei case starters, perhaps Jenny knew nita knew who the doc was?
spies8lilith (5:56:15 PM): Why do you think Nita knew who the doctor was?
spies8zedekiah (5:56:51 PM): i'm just saying what scum would find most likely.
spies8zedekiah (5:57:39 PM): or maybe they just ment to do the obvious choice so we don't get a read on them, since tina and you got immunity nita may have been the next choice o' theirs
spies8zedekiah (6:03:30 PM): i have my doubts that stephanie is scum too, but it's a bit hard t' get a read on her, I'd lean more towards isaac from what I've heard so far
spies8zedekiah (6:05:02 PM): Who do you think is scum then?
spies8zedekiah (6:06:28 PM): Rondak?
spies8lilith (6:06:44 PM): No, I don't have enough read on Rodnak.
spies8lilith (6:06:52 PM): I'm basicing it off a dream and that weird comment, LOL.
spies8lilith (6:07:06 PM): I am mostly just not comfortable with who I thought was going up, although I am warming up to Isaac being nomminated.
spies8lilith (6:07:11 PM): Claude I didn't realize was up there.
spies8zedekiah (6:07:33 PM): I'll tell ye a bit of the case I had on rondak yesterday.
spies8zedekiah (6:09:04 PM): I talked to him and asked why he did not have a vote in last round, he explained it was somethin' personal, it wasn't a provable reason but I'll trust him on it, the point is he's been busy and such.
spies8zedekiah (6:10:11 PM): But then he also admitted that his first two votes were just bandwagons with no reason behind them, it seems he is new an' prefers t' look up the case at the last minnute, which is why he did not announce his Sav vote
spies8zedekiah (6:13:38 PM): I have also noticed this, he don't really seem t' hunt scum, he come t' chat neutral, an usualy leaves when things get heated, it makes him hard t' read an blend into the background, most of his chat consist of roleplay,"*chuckles*" or "*nods*". he cliams he's from Sam's survivor games which I guess might explain it a bit.
spies8zedekiah (6:15:01 PM): his odd behavior is explained, but I still suspect him fer some reason.....
spies8lilith (6:15:28 PM): Based off of that info, I would want to see him nommed just to see how he acts under pressure. I am really unsure at this moment though.
spies8lilith (6:15:50 PM): I am thinking back to Isaac and how he acted and thinking maybe he voted Jasmine instead of Themba because he was bussing Jasmine.
spies8zedekiah (6:16:36 PM): What d' ya think about mag? she had a zillion votes last round, but she seems t' slipped of everyone's radar.
spies8lilith (6:17:15 PM): I really have no idea. Haven't really read up on it to be honest.
spies8lilith (6:17:31 PM): Mag said before Themba's allegience was revealed that Themba was a spy.
spies8lilith (6:17:46 PM): Which I just thought was odd. Hadn't Mag given up? Had Mag looked at Themba?
Monday, July 05, 2010
spies8zedekiah (7:17:13 PM): howdy hambone
spies8hambone (7:17:21 PM): hey
spies8hambone (7:17:25 PM): sup brotha
spies8zedekiah (7:17:52 PM): I've talked t' most of my suspects, that being rondak and jenny
spies8zedekiah (7:18:27 PM): just thought you'd like t' hear a bit about the jenny thing
spies8hambone (7:18:31 PM): yes please
spies8hambone (7:18:46 PM): ive reached the point where im so set on her being a spy
spies8hambone (7:18:51 PM): that i cant see her not being one at all
spies8zedekiah (7:19:23 PM): when I asked her about why she voted steph round two she said this:
spies8zedekiah (7:19:32 PM): spies8jenny 6:31 pm
I wanted to vote you, but it was obvious to me that if I did that, it'd be the only one. Which is fairly useless when there's 3 other people getting voted that you don't agree for any of them as being spies. Stephi I knew was getting thought of and I was at least suspicious of her, so I tried to see if that would work. Not so much.
spies8zedekiah (7:20:03 PM): to me it sounds as if she won't vote unless she can get a bandwaggon before hand
spies8zedekiah (7:20:32 PM): what do you think?
spies8hambone (7:21:02 PM): that would explain her voting for u very early and not budging
spies8hambone (7:21:12 PM): and just today shes doing that again
spies8hambone (7:21:22 PM): it seems like shes trying to avoid being the bandwagon
spies8hambone (7:21:45 PM): so she just votes early instead, doesnt budge, and basically wastes her vote
spies8zedekiah (7:22:43 PM): sorry have t' cut this short fer now, later!
Monday, July 05, 2010
spies8mary (9:07:42 PM): Hi.
spies8zedekiah (9:07:49 PM): Hello
spies8mary (9:07:57 PM): We haven't spoken.
spies8zedekiah (9:08:17 PM): I'm sorry 'bout that, nice t' meet ya (again)
spies8mary (9:08:33 PM): All I know about you, I learned from your posts and group chats.
spies8mary (9:08:45 PM): Why didn't you vote for Alexei?
spies8zedekiah (9:09:59 PM): I had my vote on allan for being incative, I didn't want t' change my vote until I got an explaination out of him, which unfortunately came 2 min before votes were locked
spies8mary (9:10:19 PM): Did you suspect Alexei or like Tina's and Nita's evidence?
spies8mary (9:10:32 PM): He attacked you pretty hard.
spies8zedekiah (9:11:18 PM): yeah, I'd have probably suspected him next.
spies8zedekiah (9:11:54 PM): the whole thing on me was a bit odd IMO, but it didn't pan out well
spies8mary (9:12:17 PM): I agreed with most of your suspicions post.
spies8mary (9:12:47 PM): In retrospect Themba was a wrong vote.
spies8zedekiah (9:14:19 PM): Yeah, it created some evidence, but I still thought it best at the time....
spies8mary (9:14:24 PM): What do you think now of your other suspects from back then?
spies8mary (9:15:23 PM): It looks like mostly Stephanie and Jenny.
spies8zedekiah (9:16:15 PM): I questioned jenny a bit today, I may nominate her, but I'm still tryin' t' catch up to everything
spies8mary (9:16:30 PM): I am torn about her telling the Nita story.
spies8mary (9:16:53 PM): It is a risky play if she's a spy, don't you think?
spies8zedekiah (9:18:34 PM): I suppose, she seems to be on the inside o' everything. it's a bit hard t' tell, once you say "it can't be them" since in the end that's an ideal scum works towards
spies8zedekiah (9:18:45 PM): sorry if that's a bit confusin'
spies8mary (9:19:39 PM): I don't understand why she didn't get a full list of Nita's goals.
spies8mary (9:19:58 PM): More importantly, I think she willfully ignored a lot of the Alexei evidence to vote you instead.
spies8zedekiah (9:20:43 PM): She didn't seem t' question him, that's for sure
spies8mary (9:20:49 PM): My case on her is that she was weird in group chat just about every time Alexei's name was brought up.
spies8mary (9:21:22 PM): She ignored evidence people showed her, changed the topic, and went quiet when asked questions about him.
spies8mary (9:21:33 PM): And stuck to you like glue.
spies8mary (9:21:50 PM): For an old reason.
spies8zedekiah (9:21:58 PM): Yeah, I didn't get that, even she said it wasn't much
spies8zedekiah (9:22:11 PM): but she suspects me even now
spies8mary (9:22:15 PM): Yes.
spies8mary (9:22:20 PM): You're in her top three.
spies8zedekiah (9:24:01 PM): even when I talked t' her earlier all she had to ask about was the pre day one incident, she didn't bring up "HQ", my votes or anythin'
spies8mary (9:24:22 PM): Who do you think the six spies are?
spies8zedekiah (9:26:28 PM): I really couldn't even begin t' link that many, obvously the cases on Sav and themba didn't work, at this point I'd trust a random number generator for acuracy if I were in owen's shoes
spies8zedekiah (9:27:40 PM): if I were to say my bigest suspects, Jenny, mag, allan (until he can prove his role) an maybe rondak
spies8zedekiah (9:27:59 PM): I talked t' him today and he cleared a bit of it
spies8mary (9:28:33 PM): If Allan proves he has a role, will that clear him for you?
spies8zedekiah (9:29:18 PM): yup, that'd be pretty good, I wouldn't say it's a 100% town role for sure, but it's the best for now.
spies8mary (9:29:55 PM): My top four are Chance, Isaac, Jenny and Magalie.
spies8mary (9:30:23 PM): I haven't seen Chance have many suspicions nor reasons for them.
spies8mary (9:31:07 PM): I've seen Isaac change his suspicions pretty wildly in short periods of time.
spies8mary (9:31:37 PM): And Magalie, she lied about her suspicions two or three times, which is a major problem in my book.
spies8mary (9:38:59 PM): Thank you for the chat.
spies8zedekiah (9:39:18 PM): thanks, sorry I didn't talk more
spies8mary (9:39:22 PM): I'm going to try to catch Owen before I leave.
Monday, July 05, 2010
spies8zedekiah (6:23:28 PM): Hey there jenny, rushing t' go through my suspects ( and make suspects fer that matter) mind if I take a bit of yer time?
spies8jenny (6:23:36 PM): Sure!
spies8jenny (6:23:40 PM): What's up?
spies8zedekiah (6:24:29 PM): ok, how would ye say you scum hunt mostly? (one on one chats, logs, a bit of everything?)
spies8jenny (6:25:57 PM): A bit of everything really. Take a look at what's happened, and see if it makes sense for it to happen from a cit point of view, or a spy point of view. Helps me narrow down my list of who to watch that way, and if I'm lucky something will really stick out that doesn't make any sense at all as a cit.
spies8zedekiah (6:30:27 PM): You did not talk much about yer suspicion on round two, you also did not seem t' post a public vote, but for some reason yer vote does show in the thread count, can ye tell me more about yer vote on steph that round?
spies8jenny (6:31:34 PM): I wanted to vote you, but it was obvious to me that if I did that, it'd be the only one. Which is fairly useless when there's 3 other people getting voted that you don't agree for any of them as being spies. Stephi I knew was getting thought of and I was at least suspicious of her, so I tried to see if that would work. Not so much.
spies8zedekiah (6:32:36 PM): where (or how) did ye announce the vote on steph?
spies8jenny (6:32:52 PM): I talked to Themby about it, and it was also mentioned in the group chat.
spies8zedekiah (6:36:39 PM): So you did not even want t' bring up a case against me if you couldn't get an greement out o thers?
spies8jenny (6:37:41 PM): There were three cases on people I thought were cits, 2 of which I didn't even see were seriously being considered until a couple hours before the vote. I was more focused on trying to figure out how those even came up, especially the one on Savanny, and hoping to get votes off of them.
spies8zedekiah (6:40:11 PM): you have not confronted me much personally in regards t' yer supicions after day one, do you prefer not to base your case off of the suspect's words?
spies8jenny (6:42:10 PM): I just hadn't seen you around as much really. I was actually wondering where you'd been lately.
spies8zedekiah (6:42:48 PM): yeah I'm sorry about that, I've been busy.
spies8zedekiah (6:43:50 PM): so ye'd say I'm yer #1 supect for the whole game? if that's the case, why haven't ye posted a complete case on me at this point as ye did for mag?
spies8jenny (6:44:21 PM): I posted one on Maggie because it was the republican side that was going to decide the vote. I much prefer to discuss suspicions in AIM.
spies8jenny (6:44:36 PM): Can't exactly do that with the way it was set up last episode.
spies8zedekiah (6:45:56 PM): so then you like it better when an ally of your sumerizes the case after you bounce ideas off each other then.
spies8jenny (6:47:36 PM): Mostly because I'm not very good at just going "Let me make a speech for everyone about why you all should do this." If another person is able to do that and we agree on it, yay. I find it quicker to just go "Hey I'm thinking of voting Green Lantern, that whole weak to yellow thing seems weird to me. What do you think?"
spies8zedekiah (6:49:11 PM): I guess it's fine as long as it's your own ideas in the end, not a spy lead 'r somethin'
spies8zedekiah (6:49:54 PM): would you like me to explain anythin your suspect of? or is the evidence solid without input?
spies8jenny (6:51:27 PM): It's kind of why I really miss having Savanny around, we had a lot of the same ideas about things in general, and she was better at doing the whole "case" thing then I am.
And sure. I still don't get really what you were trying to explain about that first night. I remember asking you what you were doing for the couple hours after roles went out before I talked to you, and it seemed to detour into something about the night before.
spies8zedekiah (6:54:15 PM): To make it short, rather than the usual two hour explaination, I did nothing. at least nothing relevent, I could tell ye exactly what I was doing, but that's has nothing t' do with the game.
spies8zedekiah (6:54:48 PM): I closed the chat client an' thought it was over with, I didn't know I was online.
spies8jenny (6:56:20 PM): Why not jump in and start talking with a few people at least, especially since you'd been around for a while before the game started. It just seems weird that as soon as the game started, you decided that it would be a good time to take a break, when nothing up to that point would really matter as far as the actual game goes.
spies8zedekiah (7:00:31 PM): i guess I didn't really care as much as I was s'possed t', I never really chat or anythin much, I jus' figured that as you say it wouldn't matter, no team or anyhtin', I'm not goin t' catch a scum in the pre game, so why not wait t' narrow it down to half and really get things done in the game? 'sides as I said I was tired.
spies8jenny (7:02:02 PM): Okies, that's a fair enough point. But why not just say that when I asked you about it before? The whole reason it got to be such a big deal was because it turned into this giant story about things from the night before that wasn't even about when I was asking, and eventually it just started to make no sense what you were saying when it was just supposed to be a quick question.
spies8zedekiah (7:05:12 PM): I believe soemone asked for a "testamony" I was jus' playin up my character fer the game, I had already explained myself, if y'all are goin t' ask fer further clarification on why I was tired or whatever, I'll just go off and say it, relevent or not.
spies8zedekiah (7:08:02 PM): I suppose I may have misunderstood what you were asking me as well
spies8zedekiah (7:08:42 PM): [21:03] spies8jenny: How come you waited so long to talk with people last night?
[21:03] spies8alexei: ME?
[21:04] spies8alexei: sorry, caps
[21:04] spies8jenny: No I mean zeddy
[21:04] spies8alexei: ok
[21:04] spies8zedekiah: I got excited and ended up sleeping four hours...
[21:04] spies8savannah: oh i talk in caps all the time
[21:04] spies8zedekiah: I didn't htink I should be seen by folks like that
[21:04] spies8jenny: You fell asleep after roles went out?
[21:04] spies8rondak: Many apologies, I am here and ready to discuss.
[21:04] spies8savannah: lol i did too but just didnt wake up
[21:04] spies8savannah: XD
[21:04] spies8zedekiah: no the night before, only slept four hours
[21:05] spies8zedekiah: I'm fine t'day
[21:05] spies8jenny: Oh ok. But you were around lots during the opening, why not talk with people for so long after the roles went out, and the game really started?
[21:05] spies8stephanie: i talked to zeke before assignments went out
[21:07] spies8jenny: I remember you told me before that you hadn't talked with anyone yet after roles went out, and it was a couple hours after that had happened, so it seemed weird.
[21:07] spies8zedekiah: Well, I got sort of sidetracked with other stuff online, sorry I couldn't oblidge >_>
[21:07] spies8zedekiah: and I was tired, and I had closed my chat
spies8zedekiah (7:09:25 PM): I basically explained as much by this point, but after y'all asked fer further clarification it got messy
spies8zedekiah (7:13:42 PM): any other questions? about the hq thing or whatever?
spies8jenny (7:14:17 PM): Not for the moment, asking some other people stuff. Thanks though
Monday, July 05, 2010
spies8zedekiah (5:30:25 PM): howdy
spies8rondak (5:36:55 PM): I'm skirting revealing my identity here.
spies8rondak (5:37:05 PM): But I work hard labor outdoors during the summer.
spies8rondak (5:37:14 PM): And I witnessed someone almost die.
spies8zedekiah (5:37:26 PM): of exaustion?
spies8rondak (5:37:28 PM): No.
spies8rondak (5:37:39 PM): I do tree work.
spies8rondak (5:38:00 PM): Best friend was caught without harnesses sixty feet up in the air after a trunk had ripped on him.
spies8rondak (5:38:09 PM): I had to climb up to save his life.
spies8zedekiah (5:38:44 PM): wow! yer a good man
spies8rondak (5:39:01 PM): It's whatever, anyone at the job would have done it, I had harnesses attached to me so it was pretty safe.
spies8rondak (5:39:39 PM): But needless to say I wasn't in the mood for much talking after the round -- you are probably right, I should have just voted Jenny or bandwagoned Magalie, but I felt as if I knew nothing about the going ons, so I just voted NE, told Jenny my situation, and left.
spies8zedekiah (5:40:09 PM): so it was at the start of the round then?
spies8rondak (5:40:19 PM): No, it was the night of the exile.
spies8rondak (5:40:30 PM): Mid-afternoon, I believe.
spies8rondak (5:40:41 PM): Week previously I worked a 80 hour work week.
spies8zedekiah (5:41:20 PM): ah I see, hard t' get a game done anyways then
spies8rondak (5:41:35 PM): Well, yes, but I planned on using the night before to get caught up since we got off early.
spies8rondak (5:42:02 PM): But, yeah, fail at that.
spies8rondak (5:44:29 PM): Do you have anything else for me?
spies8zedekiah (5:44:53 PM): we can continue in group if youi want, I have no more to say about the last round
spies8rondak (5:45:07 PM): Have you read the chat logs for today?
spies8zedekiah (5:45:27 PM): a bit, why?
spies8rondak (5:45:56 PM): I was curious to hear your thoughts if you did.
spies8zedekiah (5:48:35 PM): Well I mostly agree on the jenny case, if you want to ask any questions on me, I'd answer, but otherwise it's basically the same as is always being brought up
spies8rondak (5:51:41 PM): Did you read the fight between Cinnamyn and I?
spies8zedekiah (5:52:14 PM): I'll do that, jus' a sec here
spies8rondak (5:52:33 PM): Alright.
spies8zedekiah (5:57:41 PM): Ok, done
spies8rondak (5:58:00 PM): I think she has some valid points, and you definitely are not my #1 suspect anymore.
spies8zedekiah (5:58:45 PM): well it usualy does sound better when I ain't sayin it.
spies8rondak (5:58:57 PM): I got a little frustrated at the whole thing, though, mainly because of the communication, and that, well, the person who was pretty behind the case (Jenny) left me out to dry.
spies8rondak (5:59:17 PM): Yes, yes it does. It was rather embarassing, but I guess that happens sometimes.
spies8zedekiah (6:00:52 PM): a few more questions, what was your reason for not announcing yer round two vote (on sav)
spies8rondak (6:01:13 PM): It was a last minute decision, literally.
spies8rondak (6:01:26 PM): I should have posted who it was between, though.
spies8zedekiah (6:02:10 PM): So would ye say yer work, etc keeps ye from making most of your own cases?
spies8rondak (6:02:32 PM): Well my work, and this is my first time playing mafia.
spies8rondak (6:02:42 PM): So I'm still getting the hang of it.
spies8rondak (6:03:00 PM): My boss goes through these spurts where he'll work us for 80 hours a week, then bitch about giving us overtime, and knock us down to 40.
spies8rondak (6:03:11 PM): So I expect to have a short week soon.
spies8rondak (6:03:23 PM): I had yesterday and today off, and as you can see, I've tried to participate in the chats and such.
spies8zedekiah (6:04:56 PM): well that's understandable. ah well this question is a bit ooc so feel free not to answer it, but if not from a mafia site where did ya hear about this sort o game?
spies8rondak (6:05:07 PM): I played in Sam's Survivor games.
spies8rondak (6:05:17 PM): And he posts advertisement on Survivor boards I visit.
spies8zedekiah (6:05:33 PM): oh, okay then
spies8zedekiah (6:05:59 PM): why did ye vote for sav?
spies8rondak (6:06:29 PM): It was a last minute bandwagon vote.
spies8rondak (6:06:41 PM): I really wasn't confident in any of the three targets (Sav, Allan, Themba)
spies8zedekiah (6:07:33 PM): so you did not feel I was suspect at that time?
spies8rondak (6:08:04 PM): I was suspicious, but I wasn't focused on you, no.
spies8rondak (6:08:51 PM): Seeing in that we exiled two cits, I think whatever we did really isn't working.
spies8zedekiah (6:10:31 PM): yeah... well thanks fer the chat, it has answered what I wanted to ask, but it sure won't be going in any confessional....
spies8rondak (6:10:51 PM): Why not?
spies8zedekiah (6:11:15 PM): eh I dun want t' make any out of character trouble
spies8rondak (6:11:18 PM): You can remove the relevant parts, if you want.
spies8rondak (6:11:29 PM): But it really won't be read for another month or two.
spies8zedekiah (6:12:43 PM): well I guess, shouldn't get ye into too much trouble with sam, well thanks rondak, later partner
spies8rondak (6:13:01 PM): Farewell, Zedekiah.
Tuesday, July 06, 2010
spies8lilith (5:50:25 PM): Hey!
spies8zedekiah (5:50:42 PM): Howdy Lilith! What's up?
spies8lilith (5:50:45 PM): I just wanted to run down my list of who looks like they'll be nominated and what I think- to see what you think as well, if you want? :-p
spies8zedekiah (5:50:56 PM): Sure
spies8lilith (5:51:49 PM): Steph I am fairly confident is a citizen, so I am not happy with that one.
Jenny I am very unsure of, she acts spyish, but some of her ACTIONS I can't see a spy ever doing. Why reveal that you KNEW Nita was a third-party. Also, if Jenny was a spy and knew, why kill someone you knew wasn't town-aligned?
spies8lilith (5:53:28 PM): I don't like the term WIFOM, because to me it sounds like an excuse, but I feel like Jenny's actions don't make sense, ALTHOUGH, I did just realize that Jenny knew a LONG time ago that Nita was a third-agent. So maybe if the spies DID talk about it for awhile, it would eventually get to them and want to kill her already. :-P... I don't know >_<.
spies8lilith (5:54:25 PM): Isaac I only thought was mafia because of him and Themba and I felt he was insincere when he said he suspected Themba.
spies8zedekiah (5:55:14 PM): I suppose so, I reckon they may have been getting rid of all the alexei case starters, perhaps Jenny knew nita knew who the doc was?
spies8lilith (5:56:15 PM): Why do you think Nita knew who the doctor was?
spies8zedekiah (5:56:51 PM): i'm just saying what scum would find most likely.
spies8zedekiah (5:57:39 PM): or maybe they just ment to do the obvious choice so we don't get a read on them, since tina and you got immunity nita may have been the next choice o' theirs
spies8zedekiah (6:03:30 PM): i have my doubts that stephanie is scum too, but it's a bit hard t' get a read on her, I'd lean more towards isaac from what I've heard so far
spies8zedekiah (6:05:02 PM): Who do you think is scum then?
spies8zedekiah (6:06:28 PM): Rondak?
spies8lilith (6:06:44 PM): No, I don't have enough read on Rodnak.
spies8lilith (6:06:52 PM): I'm basicing it off a dream and that weird comment, LOL.
spies8lilith (6:07:06 PM): I am mostly just not comfortable with who I thought was going up, although I am warming up to Isaac being nomminated.
spies8lilith (6:07:11 PM): Claude I didn't realize was up there.
spies8zedekiah (6:07:33 PM): I'll tell ye a bit of the case I had on rondak yesterday.
spies8zedekiah (6:09:04 PM): I talked to him and asked why he did not have a vote in last round, he explained it was somethin' personal, it wasn't a provable reason but I'll trust him on it, the point is he's been busy and such.
spies8zedekiah (6:10:11 PM): But then he also admitted that his first two votes were just bandwagons with no reason behind them, it seems he is new an' prefers t' look up the case at the last minnute, which is why he did not announce his Sav vote
spies8zedekiah (6:13:38 PM): I have also noticed this, he don't really seem t' hunt scum, he come t' chat neutral, an usualy leaves when things get heated, it makes him hard t' read an blend into the background, most of his chat consist of roleplay,"*chuckles*" or "*nods*". he cliams he's from Sam's survivor games which I guess might explain it a bit.
spies8zedekiah (6:15:01 PM): his odd behavior is explained, but I still suspect him fer some reason.....
spies8lilith (6:15:28 PM): Based off of that info, I would want to see him nommed just to see how he acts under pressure. I am really unsure at this moment though.
spies8lilith (6:15:50 PM): I am thinking back to Isaac and how he acted and thinking maybe he voted Jasmine instead of Themba because he was bussing Jasmine.
spies8zedekiah (6:16:36 PM): What d' ya think about mag? she had a zillion votes last round, but she seems t' slipped of everyone's radar.
spies8lilith (6:17:15 PM): I really have no idea. Haven't really read up on it to be honest.
spies8lilith (6:17:31 PM): Mag said before Themba's allegience was revealed that Themba was a spy.
spies8lilith (6:17:46 PM): Which I just thought was odd. Hadn't Mag given up? Had Mag looked at Themba?
Monday, July 05, 2010
spies8zedekiah (7:17:13 PM): howdy hambone
spies8hambone (7:17:21 PM): hey
spies8hambone (7:17:25 PM): sup brotha
spies8zedekiah (7:17:52 PM): I've talked t' most of my suspects, that being rondak and jenny
spies8zedekiah (7:18:27 PM): just thought you'd like t' hear a bit about the jenny thing
spies8hambone (7:18:31 PM): yes please
spies8hambone (7:18:46 PM): ive reached the point where im so set on her being a spy
spies8hambone (7:18:51 PM): that i cant see her not being one at all
spies8zedekiah (7:19:23 PM): when I asked her about why she voted steph round two she said this:
spies8zedekiah (7:19:32 PM): spies8jenny 6:31 pm
I wanted to vote you, but it was obvious to me that if I did that, it'd be the only one. Which is fairly useless when there's 3 other people getting voted that you don't agree for any of them as being spies. Stephi I knew was getting thought of and I was at least suspicious of her, so I tried to see if that would work. Not so much.
spies8zedekiah (7:20:03 PM): to me it sounds as if she won't vote unless she can get a bandwaggon before hand
spies8zedekiah (7:20:32 PM): what do you think?
spies8hambone (7:21:02 PM): that would explain her voting for u very early and not budging
spies8hambone (7:21:12 PM): and just today shes doing that again
spies8hambone (7:21:22 PM): it seems like shes trying to avoid being the bandwagon
spies8hambone (7:21:45 PM): so she just votes early instead, doesnt budge, and basically wastes her vote
spies8zedekiah (7:22:43 PM): sorry have t' cut this short fer now, later!
Monday, July 05, 2010
spies8mary (9:07:42 PM): Hi.
spies8zedekiah (9:07:49 PM): Hello
spies8mary (9:07:57 PM): We haven't spoken.
spies8zedekiah (9:08:17 PM): I'm sorry 'bout that, nice t' meet ya (again)
spies8mary (9:08:33 PM): All I know about you, I learned from your posts and group chats.
spies8mary (9:08:45 PM): Why didn't you vote for Alexei?
spies8zedekiah (9:09:59 PM): I had my vote on allan for being incative, I didn't want t' change my vote until I got an explaination out of him, which unfortunately came 2 min before votes were locked
spies8mary (9:10:19 PM): Did you suspect Alexei or like Tina's and Nita's evidence?
spies8mary (9:10:32 PM): He attacked you pretty hard.
spies8zedekiah (9:11:18 PM): yeah, I'd have probably suspected him next.
spies8zedekiah (9:11:54 PM): the whole thing on me was a bit odd IMO, but it didn't pan out well
spies8mary (9:12:17 PM): I agreed with most of your suspicions post.
spies8mary (9:12:47 PM): In retrospect Themba was a wrong vote.
spies8zedekiah (9:14:19 PM): Yeah, it created some evidence, but I still thought it best at the time....
spies8mary (9:14:24 PM): What do you think now of your other suspects from back then?
spies8mary (9:15:23 PM): It looks like mostly Stephanie and Jenny.
spies8zedekiah (9:16:15 PM): I questioned jenny a bit today, I may nominate her, but I'm still tryin' t' catch up to everything
spies8mary (9:16:30 PM): I am torn about her telling the Nita story.
spies8mary (9:16:53 PM): It is a risky play if she's a spy, don't you think?
spies8zedekiah (9:18:34 PM): I suppose, she seems to be on the inside o' everything. it's a bit hard t' tell, once you say "it can't be them" since in the end that's an ideal scum works towards
spies8zedekiah (9:18:45 PM): sorry if that's a bit confusin'
spies8mary (9:19:39 PM): I don't understand why she didn't get a full list of Nita's goals.
spies8mary (9:19:58 PM): More importantly, I think she willfully ignored a lot of the Alexei evidence to vote you instead.
spies8zedekiah (9:20:43 PM): She didn't seem t' question him, that's for sure
spies8mary (9:20:49 PM): My case on her is that she was weird in group chat just about every time Alexei's name was brought up.
spies8mary (9:21:22 PM): She ignored evidence people showed her, changed the topic, and went quiet when asked questions about him.
spies8mary (9:21:33 PM): And stuck to you like glue.
spies8mary (9:21:50 PM): For an old reason.
spies8zedekiah (9:21:58 PM): Yeah, I didn't get that, even she said it wasn't much
spies8zedekiah (9:22:11 PM): but she suspects me even now
spies8mary (9:22:15 PM): Yes.
spies8mary (9:22:20 PM): You're in her top three.
spies8zedekiah (9:24:01 PM): even when I talked t' her earlier all she had to ask about was the pre day one incident, she didn't bring up "HQ", my votes or anythin'
spies8mary (9:24:22 PM): Who do you think the six spies are?
spies8zedekiah (9:26:28 PM): I really couldn't even begin t' link that many, obvously the cases on Sav and themba didn't work, at this point I'd trust a random number generator for acuracy if I were in owen's shoes
spies8zedekiah (9:27:40 PM): if I were to say my bigest suspects, Jenny, mag, allan (until he can prove his role) an maybe rondak
spies8zedekiah (9:27:59 PM): I talked t' him today and he cleared a bit of it
spies8mary (9:28:33 PM): If Allan proves he has a role, will that clear him for you?
spies8zedekiah (9:29:18 PM): yup, that'd be pretty good, I wouldn't say it's a 100% town role for sure, but it's the best for now.
spies8mary (9:29:55 PM): My top four are Chance, Isaac, Jenny and Magalie.
spies8mary (9:30:23 PM): I haven't seen Chance have many suspicions nor reasons for them.
spies8mary (9:31:07 PM): I've seen Isaac change his suspicions pretty wildly in short periods of time.
spies8mary (9:31:37 PM): And Magalie, she lied about her suspicions two or three times, which is a major problem in my book.
spies8mary (9:38:59 PM): Thank you for the chat.
spies8zedekiah (9:39:18 PM): thanks, sorry I didn't talk more
spies8mary (9:39:22 PM): I'm going to try to catch Owen before I leave.