Episode 3 - Private Chats

[Jenny]

Friday, June 25, 2010 01:25:08
[01:25] spies8allan: hey jenny
[01:25] spies8jenny: Hey Allan.
[01:25] spies8allan: hows it goin
[01:25] spies8jenny:
[01:25] spies8allan: why?
[01:25] spies8allan: what happened?
[01:25] spies8jenny: Savanny's gone
[01:25] spies8allan: ah, yea
[01:26] spies8jenny: Sorry about having to announce your role, but you were probably a dead man otherwise.
[01:26] spies8allan: i saw that
[01:26] spies8allan: well, it could be a good thing
[01:27] spies8allan: all we need is for the doc to see it
[01:27] spies8allan: cuz i mean i'll get to save someone to
[01:27] spies8jenny: Yep.

Friday, June 25, 2010 16:38:24
[16:38] spies8jenny: Hi Al.

Friday, June 25, 2010 16:39:06
[16:39] spies8allan: hey jenny whats goin on
[16:40] spies8jenny: Not a lot.
[16:40] spies8jenny: Break time, so not many people on, and I'm not exactly sure what the rule is for who we can talk to for now.
[16:40] spies8jenny: So I'm only talking to democrats that are former republicans for now just in case.
[16:41] spies8allan: yea i dunno
[16:41] spies8allan: lmao
[16:41] spies8allan: ok, so i'm happy that u and nita came with me
[16:41] spies8allan: i'm not gonna do much talking, but one person really riled me up last night
[16:41] spies8allan: and.... said something that really put up a red flag to me
[16:41] spies8jenny: Oh?
[16:41] spies8allan: i wish i woulda voted for steph like i thought about
[16:42] spies8allan: i voted with 25 minutes left... totally forgot and came home from work and was like OMG
[16:42] spies8allan: and so i voted savannah
[16:42] spies8jenny:
[16:42] spies8allan: but steph was all mad at me after the exile
[16:42] spies8jenny: Why was Stephi-kins mad at you?
[16:42] spies8allan: i was sad you had to out my role (but thanks for keeping me safe)
[16:42] spies8allan: and shes like... its your fault idiot.... don't lie
[16:42] spies8allan: and then she said,
[16:43] spies8allan: "And if you do lie don't admit it"
[16:43] spies8allan: i mean at least i'm an honest liar HA... but she was encouraging me to be shadier
[16:43] spies8jenny: I have a phone call, I'll read what you've said when I'm done.
[16:43] spies8allan: and it just made me think... hmm so is that YOUR strategy, lie and hide it
[16:44] spies8allan: i know its not solid evidence like other people collect
[16:44] spies8allan: but those statements are the things that stick out to me
[16:44] spies8allan: its k i'm gonna go
[16:44] spies8allan: i'll talk to u later


Monday, June 28, 2010 17:29:12
[17:29] spies8jenny: By the way Al, did you ever get around to asking Sam what would happen if a spy hit or a vig hit is used on you as far as your role goes?
[17:29] spies8allan: yes, but i think i'm going to keep that answer private
[17:30] spies8jenny: Okies. At least you know for if it ever comes up somehow.

Tuesday, June 29, 2010 14:31:19
[14:31] spies8jenny: Hi Al
[14:32] spies8jenny:
[14:32] spies8allan: hey jen
[14:32] spies8allan: whats goin on today
[14:33] spies8jenny: Not a lot. Did you see the bribe that came up?
[14:34] spies8allan: no i didn't
[14:34] spies8allan: let me go look
[14:34] spies8jenny: It's in the main burg.
[14:34] spies8jenny: Also, while you're doing that, did anyone use a role on you during the night phase?
[14:37] spies8allan: if they did i've not yet been notified
[14:37] spies8allan: so i guess no
[14:39] spies8jenny: Nothing? That's annoying, I would have thought at least one would have come up by now. Maybe another time.
[14:40] spies8allan: i told claude for the next night
[14:40] spies8allan: to use his thing on me
[14:41] spies8allan: that way we can know for sure he's being honest about the paramaters of what he says is his role
[14:45] spies8jenny: That's not a bad idea at least. Confirm both of you at once that way.
[14:45] spies8allan: exactly
[14:46] spies8allan: tho it doesn't confirm if he's pro-town
[14:46] spies8allan: just that his role is what he says it is
[14:46] spies8jenny: Which is a start at least.
[14:46] spies8jenny: If he's lying about that, then that'd raise some questions.
[14:47] spies8jenny: Just make sure that you pick someone as well, so that there is no question about it.
[14:47] spies8allan: mmhmm
[14:52] spies8allan: my battery is about to die
[14:52] spies8jenny: Okies, come back soon?
[14:52] spies8allan: oh i was just warning u
[14:52] spies8allan: if i disappear
[14:52] spies8allan: so who r u thinking of voting this exile?

[Jenny]

[13:55] spies8jenny: So how has the game been going since I last saw you?
[13:56] Spies8Awohali: It has been interesting, to say the least. Most of our drama has stemmed from a feud, but we have also faced the inactive bug from the likes of Margot and Magalie, both garnering suspicion recently, and Margot ultimately dying because of it.
[13:57] spies8jenny: I heard about Maggie a bit from Spice. Something about how she's coming off badly because of her attitude.
[14:11] Spies8Awohali: I apologize, I did not get an alert from your last message. And yes, Magalie's attitude is poor, but beyond that, she has been senseless so fa.
[14:12] Spies8Awohali: I literally have not been able to understand hardly anything that she has said to me, and this is bad.
[14:13] spies8jenny: Good to keep in mind then. Hopefully I will have some better luck.
[14:13] Spies8Awohali: If you do, I would loe to employ you as a translator.

Monday, June 28, 2010 23:09:59
[23:09] spies8jenny: So any thoughts on all this?
[23:10] Spies8Awohali: It depends on which 'this' we are talking about; the Magalie situation?
[23:10] spies8jenny: In general with what's come up.
[23:11] Spies8Awohali: Well, I will be honest; I am fairly suspicious of how your revelation of Allan's role went down. I do not make hasty decisions, so you are currently in no danger of getting a vote from me, but I am interested in getting to know you so that I may get a solid read on the situation.
[23:12] spies8jenny: Yeah, thursday was not a fun night for me.
[23:12] Spies8Awohali: I can't imagine that it was.
[23:14] spies8jenny: Three cases, all of them ones I hate. Spent a while trying to even figure out where the Savanny case even came from, because as far as I could tell she was getting votes for listing who she was suspicious of, hoping that Al or Ni-Ni would come online so we could discuss if we should bring up Al's role or not, seeing if there was any case out there at all that I even remotely agreed with.
[23:15] Spies8Awohali: Yes... I groaned at the thought of Savanmnah being the likely Exile target; it did not seem wie.
[23:15] Spies8Awohali: wise*
[23:16] spies8jenny: An hour before exile, only half the team even being online at the time, I figured that was cutting it close enough if we were going to get votes off of Al, and apologizing to Savanny afterwards ahead of time in case it ended up turning into a bandwagon on her, which it did.
[23:19] spies8jenny: Which really drives me nuts, because Al has been driving me bonkers ever since he told me his role and then preceded to do stuff that I can't even comprehend why he thought they were good ideas, and Savanny I had gotten along with the most, we always talked with each other when we were on, and we came to the same conclusions often about what was going on in the public chat at the time.
[23:20] spies8jenny: So I swear, if I find out Al is lying about his role or we get proof he's a spy? I'm exiling him so hard he'll be in spies7 wondering why there's constant talk of evil clowns.
[23:21] spies8jenny: And then after it's too late for it to even matter, Savanny tells me that SHE had a role too that she didn't want to claim because it was a messenger role that was rather pointless once everyone knew who it was. And then the next day I get even more annoyed by that because we could have still used that role to find out for sure if Al had a role or not!
[23:22] spies8jenny: Let's just say that when spies8 is over, and you guys are reading through all the old confessionals, there's a nice long rant waiting in mine for the start of episode 3.
[23:23] Spies8Awohali: When exactly did Savannah tell you that she had a role as well?
[23:23] spies8jenny: About 11, right as Sam was saying time was up.
[23:23] spies8jenny: She told Owen as well.
[23:23] Spies8Awohali: That was a rather silly time to wait to say so... She could have saved herself much sooner.
[23:24] spies8jenny: No here we go, it was actually while the exile was in motion, at 11 :20.
[23:24] spies8jenny: She said she didn't want to claim it, because of what the role was, and was hoping that we could turn it around and get votes on Stephi.
[23:25] Spies8Awohali: At least she was keeping in mind the importance of keeping roles secret... However there is a line where secrecy is outweighed by the need for survival.
[23:25] spies8jenny: Here we go, was looking through it again, she also felt that it wouldn't have mattered if she claimed since it was a role that could go either way alignment wise.
[23:26] Spies8Awohali: So that is one Citizen role gone, and we already have two other role claims with two additional roles being confirmed by Sam to exist.
[23:26] spies8jenny: Two confirmed by Sam?
[23:26] spies8jenny: Oh right, the exile blocker.
[23:26] spies8jenny: I forgot about that for a minute.
[23:26] Spies8Awohali: The Doctor being one, and the other being the fact that Chance was made immune from the last Exile.
[23:27] spies8jenny: Yeah I remembered the Doctor, forgot about Chance's exile blocking for a minute.
[23:27] Spies8Awohali: That is understandable; he was not on your team at the time.
[23:27] Spies8Awohali: This seems like an abundance of roles.
[23:28] spies8jenny: That's fairly normal, there's usually a good amount.
[23:29] Spies8Awohali: Indeed, but for 1 Cit role to be eliminated already... and two other roles having already been claimed. I do not like how early these roles are becoming public knowledge.
[23:30] spies8jenny: Not like I really wanted to bring it out, but I wasn't going to let the guy get himself exiled when he has the potential to be one of our stronger roles, and then after the fact go "Oh by the way, Al had a role. Yeah."
[23:31] Spies8Awohali: Yes, that, too, would have been bad. Unfortunately, if he does have a powerful role, the Spies now know it, and he will soon die anyway.
[23:31] spies8jenny: Well for the time being, it looks like they're wifoming themselves over if the doctor is protecting him or not.
[23:32] spies8jenny: Since he quite obviously wasn't the target last night phase.
[23:33] Spies8Awohali: That is possible, although it is pointless to spend too much time on things that we cannot know for sure.
[23:34] Spies8Awohali: Could you tell me who your top suspects were before the Savannah Exile, and how hard did you push them the night of the Exile?
[23:36] spies8jenny: Honestly, if it was my choice, I would have gotten rid of Zeddy that night. But there was no chance of him getting exiled that night unfortunately.

The night of exile was just a mess. Al has his first real chat with the group since returning from quitting, and promptly tells Hammy that he lied about how much he read into the Lexi case.

And then after that, I find out that Gabe isn't the only one looking into Savanny, and I have no idea where it's even coming from, and then somebody brings up Themby as a case, and I realize that it's going to be a very long night for me.
[23:38] spies8jenny: I remember telling several people that I was not a fan of any of the cases that were coming up, to see what they said in response, and everyone sounded pretty set in their vote to my dismay.
[23:39] Spies8Awohali: Did you bring forth any evidence or reasons as to why they should vote people that you did suspect?
[23:41] spies8jenny: I had a few people agree that Stephi was strange, but they were more suspicious of Savanny then Stephi, for I don't even know why.

The Zeddy case for our group was like what Lucky and Claude were for you guys, argued up down left right and in 3D, and nobody wanted to go with it. Stephi was a more recent suspicion of mine and I certainly didn't have anything on her that was going to give me the ability to override three other cases.
[23:42] Spies8Awohali: I see. So for the most part, people seemed fairly set in their ways in voting for Savannah?
[23:42] spies8jenny: Or Al.
[23:43] spies8jenny: But especially on Savanny after the claim went out.
[23:43] Spies8Awohali: I can see why... I am still confused as to why Savannah would allow that to happen to her and not role claim herself, after seeing how well it worked for Allan.
[23:43] spies8jenny: I actually thought we'd gotten at least a couple people to vote with Savanny and I and go with Stephi-kins. Apparently not so much, since we were the only two on her.
[23:47] spies8jenny: After the votes were finalized, I pretty much spent the whole exile talking with Savanny saying our goodbyes, her telling me about her role, and joking about using kathie's cats to spy on the living players.
[23:49] Spies8Awohali: Did it ever occur to you to ask if Savannah had any possible way of saving herself, knowing near the end that she was overwhelmingly the Exile choice?
[23:50] spies8jenny: I told her several times before the deadline came, that if she had a role she should do it soon since time was running out. I think I forgot to say earlier, but that was part of the reason I thought an hour was cutting it close to bring up Al, I wanted to give her time to say something after it was out, since I had a feeling it would get ugly for her afterwards.
[23:51] Spies8Awohali: I can not imagine why she would roleclaim after the deadline, given those circumstances, then.
[23:53] spies8jenny: [21:03] spies8jenny: Alright, well since you're apparently on the chopping block, I might as well ask. Did you get a role?
[21:03] spies8savannah: well there is still a chance i wont be exiled
[21:03] spies8savannah: so i dont think its smart to discuss that just yet
[23:53] spies8jenny: [22:19] spies8jenny: Okies, now I'm really getting worried about you getting exiled after all that. That's the other reason I did it an hour before exile, in case you had something you needed to let out as well. One role claim is crazy enough. Two would have exploded our brains.
[22:19] spies8jenny: If we did it in the last 5 minutes.
[22:20] spies8savannah: let me see where votes are at
[23:54] spies8jenny: And after it was too late

[23:20] spies8jenny: I think this is probably the last chance you have to say if you had a role, if the event starting does not make that too late.
[23:20] spies8savannah: i did.
[23:20] spies8savannah: but its not important now lol
[23:20] spies8jenny: ...
[23:20] spies8jenny: YES IT WAAAAS
[23:56] Spies8Awohali: When she said this, " [21:03] spies8savannah: well there is still a chance i wont be exiled
[21:03] spies8savannah: so i dont think its smart to discuss that just yet " did that not sound to you like an implied role?
[23:56] spies8jenny: It did actually, which is why I brought it up the second time after Al's came out.
[23:58] spies8jenny: Exile comes around and she still hasn't done anything with it, and I figure she just must not have had anything, but I ask again while exile is going because what could it hurt.
[23:58] Spies8Awohali: I think that had you shown that chat lnie to people considering voting her, though, that could ahve had the power to change some minds.
[23:58] spies8jenny: As I said earlier.

Thursday stunk.
[23:59] Spies8Awohali: It appears that way.
[00:00] spies8jenny: implying having a role vs an actual role claim? I was hoping Savanny would stay, and even I would have had to side with Al on that.
[00:00] Spies8Awohali: Savannah and Allan were not the only two choices available, though.
[00:01] spies8jenny: Of course not, but with everyone rather set in their votes, it would have taken a "Darla will be behind a Carly exile" for anything to have budged.
[00:01] spies8jenny: Or something of equal major noteworthiness.
[00:02] Spies8Awohali: An implied roleclaim could have very well been enough. It certainly would not have hurt to try.
[00:03] spies8jenny: From what I saw last game, implied roleclaims just meant more votes on them until they squealed.
[00:03] spies8jenny: The last thing I wanted was more votes on Savanny after all that.
[00:04] Spies8Awohali: I imagine that this game is not the last game.
[00:04] Spies8Awohali: You said yourself that at that point in time, she appeared to be a goner. More votes could not have possibly hurt.
[00:07] spies8jenny: What does this not being the last game have to do with anything?

And it does hurt if you're trying to convince people to go on someone else entierly and not vote her. Last time I saw an implied roleclaim come up in this group, people started voting and threatening to vote them until they fully claimed. And when I was hoping to get them off of her, and not wasting what little time we had trying to press for a roleclaim she didn't want to make, I didn't exactly think bringing up an implied roleclaim would do any favors.
[00:08] spies8jenny: And dang it Al, stay online already! Why on earth are you logging in and then leaving 10 seconds later!
[00:08] Spies8Awohali: Because assuming that things in this game will go as they did in the last game is not a good idea. And had there been more heat on her, she would have had to fully roleclaim, and then she would have been better off, yes? Especially in the last 10 minutes or so, I can not understand the harm in releasing that chat line.
[00:10] spies8jenny: Honestly I didn't put a whole lot of thought into that particular line. I just read it, saw that it implied a rold, and made sure to keep poking her about claiming if she had something. I didn't think for a moment that bringing it up in the chat would do any good.
[00:11] spies8jenny: Challenge should be starting up in a couple minutes for us.
[00:12] Spies8Awohali: I find it odd that it stood out to you as an implied role claim, and that you would then see it as not that important. And yes, our challenge should begin quite soon.
[00:12] spies8jenny: in the fort and the confessional he says.
[00:13] spies8jenny: If you're still awake when we're done, I'll be glad to talk to you about it more later.
[00:14] Spies8Awohali: Indeed, depending on how long it takes, this may be possible. I will not be able to remain on line super late, though.
[00:14] spies8jenny: Well I'm certainly on more often then Maggie is, so it shouldn't be hard to catch me again.
[00:15] Spies8Awohali: That is very true; we shall have bountiful time to discuss these matters, I am certain.

Tuesday, June 29, 2010 17:56:06
[17:56] spies8jenny: Hi Hali!
[17:56] Spies8Awohali: Hello, Jenny. How are you?
[17:56] spies8jenny: I'm doing well.
[17:56] Spies8Awohali: That is good to hear. Well rested for the challenge?
[17:57] spies8jenny: Yep!
[17:57] spies8jenny: And I have pizza!
[17:57] spies8jenny:
[17:57] Spies8Awohali: A good source of energy, for sure. I enjoy the taste of pizza, but it is so unnatural that I do not partake of it often
[17:58] spies8jenny: But it tastes so good!

I think I might need a drink to go with the challenge though.
[17:59] Spies8Awohali: Yes, I drank many glasses of water last night during our challenge
[17:59] Spies8Awohali: And was still tired after it was over.
[20:59] spies8jenny: Ni-Ni's worried that people that are vets would be targeted by the spies moreso then the new players from what I'm talking to her with. I can understand where she's coming from, although I don't think that's a real issue to worry about.
[21:02] Spies8Awohali: I can understand it, too, but I think she is voerreacting heavily.
[21:02] spies8jenny: I agree, but I'd rather not start a fight about it when we got more important things to deal with.
[21:04] Spies8Awohali: Agreed. I just think she is silly.
[21:05] spies8jenny: I'll save the chat for later, just in case by some bit of ridiculousness we need it for some reason.
[21:06] spies8jenny: No need to cause an argument over it, when I don't think Ni-Ni is a spy anyways, and like I said, we got more important things to argue about if we want to start arguing.
[21:06] Spies8Awohali: Indeed... That seems like a good po9liy. Although if you are used to psoting all chats, I still see no reason not to.
[21:07] Spies8Awohali: Nita is more upset with me than she is with you. She made that clear to me in IM's.
[21:07] spies8jenny: I got it in my confessional
[21:07] spies8jenny: Okies, I be right back so I can get my sibling.
[21:07] Spies8Awohali: That sounds like fun, enjoy yourself.
[21:23] spies8jenny: I hated that map challenge. It took me about 5 minutes to find those three items, and 20 minutes later we're still figuring out how to write them down.
[21:23] spies8jenny:
[21:26] Spies8Awohali: Yes... I hated it as well, epecially since the numbers were uneven.
[21:26] Spies8Awohali: It would have been a lot less confusing had they matched up on either side and up and down.
[21:26] spies8jenny: And if we had a system to list it that made sense.
[21:27] Spies8Awohali: Yes... That could have very well made all the difference for us,
[21:27] spies8jenny: I'm sure it helped.
[21:28] Spies8Awohali: We can not worry about it any longer, though, for it is in the past. This last challenge is what matters.
[21:28] spies8jenny: Hopefully it makes more sense.
[21:28] spies8jenny: And that the other team all falls asleep.
[21:29] Spies8Awohali: I am thinking that it will be a very long challenge, since all of tomorrow is given for catching up time.
[21:29] spies8jenny: Maybe.
[21:30] Spies8Awohali: If anything, longer is better since we are 15 minutes behind.
[21:31] spies8jenny: You know, Maggie left to reboot her computer 2 hours ago, and she still hasn't come back.
[21:32] spies8jenny: I wonder if something happened to her?
[21:32] Spies8Awohali: Oh, I know... I noted that. She probably just did not want to participate.
[21:32] spies8jenny: But she would get more votes on herself if she didn't.
[21:34] spies8jenny: I dunno what is going on with her.
[21:35] Spies8Awohali: She does not act... Within reasonable means very often.
[22:45] spies8jenny: To be fair, I think Claude had a point earlier, the republicans were having everything happen to them. Some protection on their side could be a good thing.
[22:46] Spies8Awohali: It is true, to a degree. Still, I would much rather be deciding who is gone rather than the other team, that I do not know as well.
[22:47] spies8jenny: Me too, but bright side of things right?
[22:47] Spies8Awohali: Unless, of course, the SPies really do have a large presence on the other team, and thus will be able to make sure that the immunity is given to people that won't be needing it anyway
[22:48] spies8jenny: But it also means we'll have more information to go on from that side too.
[22:48] spies8jenny: From who decides who gets what, in addition to who they eliminate at the final exile.
[22:49] Spies8Awohali: Yes, I am looking forward to that.
[23:16] spies8jenny: Honestly I think that no matter who we put up, unless something super bizzare happens on our side before exile, it'll be on whoever they picked.
[23:17] Spies8Awohali: That is most likely to be the case... I am fearful that by decidingh to vote No Exile, we are taking away the accountability of everyone on our team this episode.
[23:17] spies8jenny: That's why I was hoping to try for an idea where we put up a "To the Republicans" topic about our own likely choices.
[23:18] Spies8Awohali: That may be a good compromise.
[23:19] spies8jenny: A few people shot it down though because there'd still be lack of personal communication, but really there isn't any perfect way of doing this.
[23:20] Spies8Awohali: Indeed, I did mention that there would still be no communication between our nominee and some of the other team
[23:20] spies8jenny: We're either going to end up doing a No exile on our side, and just have the Democrats freemason it for the next few days, or we're going to have to put up someone that several people on the other side will not have met.
[23:21] Spies8Awohali: Yes... Neither option is ideal.
[23:21] Spies8Awohali: But it is the popsition we are in.
[23:31] spies8jenny: I really do think Ni-Ni isn't a spy, but she can be aggrivating to talk to sometimes.
[23:31] Spies8Awohali: She seems to always want her way... Has she been of this mindset the entire game?
[23:32] spies8jenny: Yeah, she's rather set in her ways for the most part. I think she means well, but she is rather stubborn.
[23:33] Spies8Awohali: Indeed... Unfortunately, I automatically butt heads with people that try to enforce their own way. It could be a messy few days.
[23:33] Spies8Awohali: I just do not like the idea of a wasted episode.
[23:33] spies8jenny: The last thing we need is any episodes happening of a reborn freemason team.
[23:34] Spies8Awohali: I am not sure of what you are referring to.
[23:35] spies8jenny: Spies7 had teams too. It was based on conspiracy theories, so the teams were Illuminati, and Freemasons. There was one point where they had a similar situation to what we have now, except that everyone would vote between the final two people not just one team, but everyone sort of decided that the Illuminati had more suspicious people, and they'd vote out whoever the Illuminati brought up. That ended up leading to several days of freemasons not even bothering to log on for more then an hour or two at a time, if at all.
[23:36] Spies8Awohali: Yes... That is a perfect example of what I would like to avoid here. Even if we say that we will not let it happen, it most likely will.
[23:38] spies8jenny: That's why I'm hoping that we at least try to have an actual vote, and do our best to at least inform the other team of why the top few suspects people are likely going to vote between are suspicious, and maybe even have those people post something to respond to those suspicions.
[23:39] spies8jenny: And before you say anything too, Ni-Ni already said the same thing, but yes I know I'd likely be one of those people that would be brought up, and it'll stink to be me for a while if we end up doing that, but it's still better then having half the game sit on our hands and watch paint dry.
[23:39] spies8jenny: "My that shade of blue is really drying quite well don't you think?"
[23:41] Spies8Awohali: Yes, I do agree with you in this regard, and you are one of the people I would consider nominating, though there are other likely candidates in my mind.
[23:45] spies8jenny: The other disturbing similarity is that both of these instances are right after a break. Last time it came up, some of the freemasons even went as far to say that they were on an extended break for the time being.
[23:45] spies8jenny: And even shot down one of the cits that was trying to promote discussion.
[23:46] Spies8Awohali: And we even have a few people still on extended breaks, such as Chance.
[23:50] spies8jenny: Lucky at least announecd he'd be out in that away thread.
[23:50] spies8jenny: Looks like he should be back tomorrow according to it.
[23:51] Spies8Awohali: Indeed, and apparently he has returned as of several minutes ago.
[23:51] spies8jenny: Well that's good.
[23:51] Spies8Awohali: It certainly i.
[00:16] spies8jenny: Like I said. She means well, but she's rather stubborn.
[00:18] Spies8Awohali: Yes she is.

[Jenny]

Wednesday, June 30, 2010 21:04:28
[21:04] spies8jenny: Hi Lucky! Haven't seen you since before the original teams were set!
[21:04] spies8chance: i know! :-(
[21:04] spies8jenny: Just got back from toy story 3, so I'm just seeing what's new in the forum so far.
[21:05] spies8chance: gotcha. was it good?
[21:05] spies8jenny: Yeah, it's a good movie. Definitely going to be the last of them, there is no way they're going to try to do more after how they played out the ending.
[21:06] spies8chance: there are only certain movies i think can go past three movies, so it's probably a good thing.
[21:08] spies8jenny: That and I think they just couldn't get some of the people back anymore, so it'd be hard to keep going anyways. They took out Bo Peep for example which was odd.
[21:08] spies8chance: aww. i liked bo peep.
[21:08] spies8jenny: I guess the voice actor couldn't come back or something.
[21:08] spies8chance: ah.
[21:09] spies8jenny: I dunno for sure though.
[21:10] spies8chance: hey, can you clear up something for me?
[21:10] spies8chance: i hear people talking about you and a roleclaim and allan and i'm really kind of confused.
[21:12] spies8jenny: Sure, what would you like to know?
[21:12] spies8chance: did you claim a role, or did allan?
[21:12] spies8chance: or did allan claim to you?
[21:12] spies8jenny: Just in general what happened, or something specific?
[21:12] spies8chance: yeah, just in general for starters. :-)
[21:12] spies8chance: thanks.
[21:14] spies8jenny: Okies, well Al claimed to me the friday after the game started, so two days into the game, so I knew about that for a while. At the last exile, I got the impression that Al was the one with the lead in votes for the exile, and neither Al or Ni-Ni who Al also claimed to just the day before were online. I was hoping that he would come on and say something himself, but an hour before the deadline I felt was cutting it close as it was considering only half of our team was even on.
[21:14] spies8chance: what did al claim to you?
[21:15] spies8jenny: You didn't hear about that either?
[21:15] spies8jenny: Okies well.
[21:15] spies8chance: no, i didn't. :-(
[21:15] spies8jenny: He says that whenever a role gets used on him, he is able to use that role as well for the phase. So if a doctor protects him, he gets a doctor protection to use and so on.
[21:15] spies8chance: oh, interesting.
[21:16] spies8jenny: He refuses to say what happens if a spy or vig hit is placed on him as far as his role goes, and that's probably for the best for now.
[21:17] spies8chance: i.e. if the spies try to imprison him?
[21:17] spies8jenny: Or if we have a vigilante power that tries to do the same.
[21:17] spies8chance: ah.
[21:17] spies8jenny: I had him check with Sammy, and he got an answer but he's going to keep that to himself, for good reason.
[21:17] spies8jenny: Since we weren't sure when he first claimed to me.
[21:18] spies8chance: gotcha.
[21:18] spies8chance: okay, now can i ask another question?
[21:18] spies8jenny: Sure.
[21:18] spies8chance: why did you have the impression that al was in the lead for exile?
[21:20] spies8jenny: Because I was counting at least 4 votes on Al at the time, and I had been talking with Savanny for a while, who said she thought she had 3 votes on herself. I didn't bother to double check since I didn't like any of the big cases for exile that night, and I figured Savanny would likely at least know how many votes were on herself. I'd think most people would be self concious about that sort of thing.
[21:20] spies8jenny: Add that to the fact that we could have had vote changes nobody knew about, and I still say it wasn't a horrible idea in the end, since they were still only a vote or so apart when I brought it up, even if it was in the other direction.
[21:21] spies8chance: hmm. i don't know if i would have brought it up myself - i don't like to betray confidences. but it may have saved allan from exile, so maybe you did the right thing.
[21:21] spies8chance: how did allan feel about it?
[21:21] spies8jenny: Thursday really stunk for me though. Al, and Savanny were the big two cases that night, and Themby was somewhere in third. And I didn't think any of them were spies.
[21:22] spies8jenny: Well when he finally got on two hours after exile (he actually forgot exile was that night. Typical.) he read over what happened and said thanks for doing so.
[21:23] spies8jenny: And yeah, I wasn't exactly happy about having to bring up the role, but revealing it would be better then letting him get himself exiled.
[21:23] spies8jenny: And then going "Oh hey by the way Al roleclaimed to me before."
[21:24] spies8chance: which is kind of what happened with savannah, isn't it?
[21:24] spies8jenny: Savanny roleclaimed to a few people after the deadline was passed.
[21:24] spies8jenny: Myself she told about 20 minutes after the deadline, in the middle of the exile.
[21:25] spies8chance: that makes no sense. sigh.
[21:26] spies8jenny: The role she claimed was a messenger role. Annonymous messages aren't exactly helpful when everyone knows where it comes from, plus it's a role that could go either way. That's why she felt it wouldn't help anything by claiming.
[21:26] spies8chance: that's true.
[21:27] spies8jenny: Thursday was just lousy. Let's just say that when spies8 is over, and we get to see each others confessionals, there's a bit of a rant waiting in the start of the episode 3 confessional.
[21:28] spies8chance: hahaha. i'm sorry. :-(
[21:29] spies8jenny: Especially because I would much rather have liked to have kept Savanny around. Al has made me start banging my head on the wall several times since claiming to me, and Savanny was one of my favorite people to talk to.
[21:29] spies8chance: aww.
[21:29] spies8chance: savannah did get on my nerves a bit in the opening chat. not gonna lie.
[21:30] spies8chance: but we probably just started off on the wrong foot.
[22:43] spies8jenny: Night Lucky!
[22:43] spies8jenny: Get well soon.
[22:44] spies8chance: thanks jen. :-)

[Jenny]

Sunday, June 27, 2010 13:35:28
[13:35] spies8jenny: Hi Spice!
[13:37] spies8jenny: So how has everything been going on this team?
[13:38] spies8cinnamyn: meh
[13:38] spies8cinnamyn: lmbo
[13:38] spies8cinnamyn: i felt lyke last round dey wuz onlee a few ppl dat wuz really tryin'
[13:38] spies8jenny: Well that's not a good thing.
[13:38] spies8cinnamyn: i no
[13:39] spies8cinnamyn: n' we still got claude n' chance on da same team so i knows dey gonna b fightin' again
[13:39] spies8jenny: They don't get along then?
[13:40] spies8jenny: I thought they were just arguing about roles.
[13:40] spies8cinnamyn: no
[13:40] spies8cinnamyn: dey're both convinced dat da otha 1 iz a spy
[13:40] spies8jenny: Well that's no good.
[13:40] spies8jenny: Are they convinced because there's evidence, or because they don't like each other?
[13:40] spies8cinnamyn: but dey r so blinded by their suspishin of da otha dat dey dont luk at n e otha ppl
[13:40] spies8cinnamyn: well dey both think they have evidence
[13:40] spies8cinnamyn: but da rest of us aint really convinced
[13:41] spies8jenny: Okies, well I guess I should ask about that first. What evidence is on the two of them?
[13:41] spies8cinnamyn: well itz jus' lil stuff dat dey think of each otha
[13:41] spies8cinnamyn: itz real nit picky
[13:42] spies8cinnamyn: i think both r suspishis in dey own wayz, but not 4 da same reazinz
[13:42] spies8jenny: Such as?
[13:43] spies8cinnamyn: chance seemz 2 spread misinformashin, play emoshinally, not give hiz suspishinz unless itz about claude, n' continued 2 go against claude even do we wuz certin we wuznt gunna vote him las' round
[13:44] spies8cinnamyn: n' claude iz jus' az emoshinal (tho he wont admit it), had a weird case on camilla, sed we cud exile him if she wuz a cit, n' she wuz, n' claimed at a weird time
[13:44] spies8jenny: Speaking of which, what do you think of his role?
[13:44] spies8jenny: I know roles like that have usually been spy in the past, but do you think it's the same here?
[13:44] spies8cinnamyn: i think itz silly 2 assume 1 way or anotha
[13:45] spies8cinnamyn: we have 2 luk at da way he uzes it 2 c if itz spy or cit, u no.?
[13:46] spies8jenny: I don't understand why he used to to block Lucky's exile if he suspects him.
[13:46] spies8cinnamyn: o, dat wuznt hiz power
[13:46] spies8cinnamyn: hiz power wuz blockin' hiz role
[13:46] spies8cinnamyn: sum1 else blocked da exile
[13:46] spies8cinnamyn: sory not hiz role, hiz vote i mean
[13:50] spies8jenny: Let me read that claim again, I was sure it said it was an exile block.
[13:51] spies8cinnamyn: nah it wuz jus' da vote
[13:51] spies8cinnamyn: n' lyke it rotatez wut he can do wit' votez or sumthin'
[13:52] spies8jenny: Okies, yeah it only does talk about the actual votes.
[13:53] spies8jenny: My fault then, I thought I saw it say something about it being the exile block.
[13:53] spies8cinnamyn: nope, so da crazii part wuz chance had 2 rolez uzed on him
[13:55] spies8cinnamyn: claude already told me he wuz gonna push heavy on chance, n' im assumin' chance will 4 claude again
[13:55] spies8cinnamyn: which iz makin' me think deyz sumthin up wit at least 1 of dem bcuz dey focus so much on each otha, n' it distracts us i feel lyke
[13:56] spies8jenny: It's certainly possible. It could also be spies trying to fuel the fire between two silly cits.
[13:56] spies8cinnamyn: yea, but da onlee persun really pushin' dat wuz jasmine n' she b on da otha team.
[13:56] spies8cinnamyn: errybody else thinks da whole situashin iz silly
[13:58] spies8jenny: Did you get the details on Allan's role by the way?
[13:59] spies8cinnamyn: not realy, i think dey wuz talkin' bout it on thrusday but i wuz dam tired so i wuznt realy payin attenshin lmbo
[13:59] spies8jenny: Okies well.
[14:00] spies8jenny: Allan claimed to me a while ago, and I revealed it, which is what got votes off of him.
[14:00] spies8jenny: His role is something about "if roles get used on him, he can use that role as well."
[14:00] spies8jenny: So if a doctor protects him, he gets a doctor protection to use, and so on.
[14:00] spies8cinnamyn: o nice
[14:01] spies8cinnamyn: wut wuz da case on him bein' a spy.?
[14:03] spies8jenny: Well first he wasn't on very much, then he threatened to quit when people kept bugging him about getting on, then when he came back he admitted to lying about reading a thread, and said he only skimmed it.
[14:03] spies8jenny: Personally I think the case was stupid.
[14:04] spies8cinnamyn: who did u feel wuz a spy insted.?
[14:05] spies8jenny: I'd rather have voted Zeddy that round. The top cases on there were Savanny and Al. And I didn't like either case, so it was a fairly sad night for me.
[14:07] spies8cinnamyn: 4 u not likin' doze cases it didnt seem lyke u wuz pushin' hard 2 get a vote on zed, or 2 save allan
[14:10] spies8cinnamyn: y did u change ur vote 2 stephanie.?
[14:10] spies8jenny: Because there was no way Zeddy was getting eliminated, and I at least suspected Stephi-kins.
[14:11] spies8cinnamyn: did u feel lyke allan wud have been exiled had u not spilled hiz role.?
[14:11] spies8jenny: Yes.
[14:12] spies8jenny: It seemed fairly clear to me he was the lead runner for the exile.
[14:17] spies8cinnamyn: ok
[14:17] spies8cinnamyn: do u think n e body who came witchu frum ur grup b a spy.?
[14:18] spies8jenny: It's possible, but I'm still trying to decide with some people. I was hoping to get more out of Rondie when this all happened, since he hasn't done much game talk yet.
[14:18] spies8jenny: He says he's new to mafia completely, so that's understandable, but it doesn't make him immune to being a spy.
[14:19] spies8jenny: How about you? Who do you suspect?
[14:19] spies8cinnamyn: frum my group or urz.?
[14:20] spies8jenny: From our current group.
[14:22] spies8cinnamyn: i think chance n' claude r suspishis of course 4 da way dey actin'
[14:22] spies8cinnamyn: i also think itz weird how cory haz slunk in2 da background, cuz a cit shudnt do dat
[14:22] spies8cinnamyn: espeshully if we aint caught a spy yet
[14:22] spies8cinnamyn: n' gertie haz sum weird last minute vote switchez
[14:22] spies8cinnamyn: every1 else seemz gud 2 me rite now
[14:28] spies8cinnamyn: u wuz rite about rondak, he aint talkin' much game
[14:29] spies8jenny: It's mostly that he seems to still be getting a feel for the game, and just doesn't know where to start. And if he's genuinely new to the game, then I can understand being overwhelmed. I just don't want to ignore him completely because of it.
[14:30] spies8cinnamyn: i dont no wen da whole "im new 2 da game" shit came in
[14:30] spies8cinnamyn: i didnt no dat wuz such a big thing
[14:31] spies8jenny: For Rondie or in general?
[14:31] spies8cinnamyn: in gen'ral
[14:31] spies8jenny: I don't think it's been too bad. Only Hammy and Rondie that I know of have really said they are new to the game in some way.
[14:31] spies8jenny: Hammy seems to be catching on ok, Rondie a little slower.
[14:32] spies8cinnamyn: i jus' think itz a moot point
[14:32] spies8cinnamyn: cuz a spy can b new 2 da game 2
[14:35] spies8jenny: That's what I'm saying. I don't mind him taking his time to learn the game, but it doesn't make him unable to be a spy. That's why i'm hoping to get more from him.
[14:35] spies8jenny: He's been getting more into it the past couple days, so that's a good sign.
[14:38] spies8cinnamyn: he sed dis, n' i agree wit' him, dat 4 sum1 apparently experienced (cuz u help him a lot) u aint catchin' lotz of spiez
[14:38] spies8jenny: We've only had two exiles, and neither of the ones I've voted on have left.
[14:39] spies8cinnamyn: wut cases have u pushed.?
[14:39] spies8cinnamyn: cuz u aint posted a lot in da burg datz y im askin
[14:40] spies8jenny: Well anyone from our old team can tell you I'm suspicious of Zeddy. But for the most part, I've been working on who I think is a cit and narrowing things down from there.
[14:40] spies8cinnamyn: but u cant vote 4 a cit
[14:40] spies8cinnamyn: well, u can
[14:40] spies8cinnamyn: but u no
[14:40] spies8jenny: Well of course I don't vote for the ones I think are citizens.
[14:41] spies8jenny: But if I have a good idea on who I think is a cit, then I have a better idea of where I should focus.
[14:41] spies8cinnamyn: but iz u focusin.?
[14:42] spies8cinnamyn: u saved allan in exchange 4 anotha cit
[14:42] spies8jenny: I didn't want Savanny to go either. I thought both of the cases were bad. I was hoping more people would help vote Stephi.

Besides, would you rather I stayed quiet about the roleclaim I knew about and only mentioned it after he died?
[14:43] spies8cinnamyn: no, but im sayin' if u were savin' allan u cud have tryed 2 get ppl 2 vote who u thot wuz a spy
[14:43] spies8jenny: I was. Didn't really work out so well.
[14:45] spies8cinnamyn: well u didnt post in da votin' thred at all
[14:45] spies8jenny: I'd been telling people already that I thought both of the cases were bad, and would rather see someone else up, and I was hoping that when that roleclaim came out it would be a way to get people to focus elsewhere. Instead everyone just bandwagoned onto the easiest vote.
[14:45] spies8cinnamyn: itz e z 2 say cases r bad
[14:46] spies8cinnamyn: so did u think da bandwagoned votez were shady.?
[14:47] spies8jenny: I wouldn't be surprised if there were spies on it, but I also wouldn't be surprised to see some of them just being lazy and picking the next popular vote.
[14:47] spies8jenny: I'm still trying to decide how much of either it could have been.
[14:50] spies8cinnamyn: y didnt u continue 2 push a zedekiah vote after exile 1.?
[14:51] spies8jenny: There was a following for a while to vote Zeddy, and honestly I have no idea how Savanny came up as a lynch option. Allan I know came up because of him acting strangely and admitting to lying about how much he'd been reading up.
[14:51] spies8cinnamyn: so u jus' gave up.? orrrrrr wut
[14:53] spies8jenny: I would much rather have put Zeddy up, but when it was obvious that suddenly most people were wanting to vote between 2 people I felt were citizens, with a third case on Themby that I also didn't like. At that point it was more a case of wanting to get people to stop voting people I thought were citizens, and at least have the vote on someone that was suspicious.
[14:54] spies8cinnamyn: but u sed u didnt think savannah wuz suspishis, rite.?
[14:54] spies8jenny: It was not exactly a very happy night that night.
[14:55] spies8jenny: Right, Savanny and I had worked well together, and we'd come up with a lot of the same ideas, and she came off as a citizen to me when we talked.
[14:56] spies8cinnamyn: so allan wuznt suspishis, savannah wuznt suspishis, themba wuznt suspishis
[14:56] spies8jenny: All of them I think are citizens.

Which made thursday really annoying.
[14:57] spies8cinnamyn: did u try 2 do anythin' 2 stop it besidez role claim an hour b4 exile.? (sory i dont no da exact timin' of dat but i thot datz wut it wuz)
[14:58] spies8jenny: Yeah it was an hour before. I was hoping Allan would come online, so he could have a say in all of it, but it was getting too close to the deadline at that point to wait longer.
[14:59] spies8cinnamyn: so u let exile jus' sit on 3 ppl u thot wuz citz.?
[14:59] spies8jenny: Allan had only come up the day before, I still don't know where the Savanny vote came from, and the Themby case I only saw pick up steam the day of the vote.
[15:01] spies8cinnamyn: well, gabez "on savannah" thred wuz posted da day b4 exile in da afternoon
[15:01] spies8jenny: As far as I knew though he was the only one that suspected her, and we talked on AIM about it.
[15:02] spies8jenny: Gabe-Gabe had suspected Savanny since the start of the game, so I wasn't surprised by him.
[15:03] spies8jenny: He'd mistakenly though Savanny was pushing voting for inactives, and thought it was suspicious.
[15:04] spies8cinnamyn: so who did u think wuz a spy at da beginnin' of round 2 n' y didnt u try 2 push it.?
[15:05] spies8cinnamyn: sory if im actin lyke a bitch jus' tryin 2 figure it out.!
[15:06] spies8jenny: It's no problem, it's more then it seemed like some people were doing.

Anyways the people I wanted to get more about and from were Zeddy, Kiara (was inactive so obviously no information), Owen (hadn't seen little of him), Rondie (being new only counts for so much), and Stephi-kins (she had some strange reasoning for some of her suspects).
[15:10] spies8cinnamyn: did u get wut u wanted frum dem.
[15:10] spies8cinnamyn: ?
[15:12] spies8jenny: Kiara ended up replaced, Zeddy still seems suspicious to me, Rondie I've found is easier to talk to if you give him specific questions like "What do you think about Nita?" over "Who do you suspect?", and Stephi I didn't get a chance to talk much in private with, although I saw her in the group chats a few times.
[15:14] spies8cinnamyn: jenny u confuse me grl
[15:14] spies8cinnamyn: cuz u lukin 4 citz but den u dont try 2 push 4 da ppl u dont think r citz
[15:14] spies8cinnamyn: or try 2 really save da ppl u think iz citz
[15:14] spies8cinnamyn: so wutz da point.?
[15:20] spies8cinnamyn: aight jenny im off 4 a bit but i will talk 2 u sum more l8r
[15:20] spies8jenny: Okies, sorry about getting quiet, just talking to Mary also.

Sunday, June 27, 2010 22:09:47
[22:09] spies8cinnamyn: ayye jenny u there.?
[22:09] spies8jenny: Hey there!
[22:10] spies8jenny: Welcome back!
[22:10] spies8cinnamyn: thanks boo
[22:10] spies8cinnamyn: did u get 2 talk wit' claude sum more.?
[22:11] spies8jenny: I haven't gotten a chance to really talk with him in private yet. He did a lot of talking though int he public chat, and I was busy talking with Ni-Ni in private.
[22:11] spies8cinnamyn: hiz answer 2 my 1 simple queschin b crazi
[22:12] spies8cinnamyn: he still cant answer unless it b bout chance
[22:12] spies8jenny: I noticed, no wonder he's been driving you guys crazy.
[22:13] spies8jenny: So what do you think so far with these new teams?
[22:13] spies8cinnamyn: i dunno. im okay wit who we got ova here.
[22:14] spies8cinnamyn: seemz lyke we got quite a few more of da talkerz tho
[22:14] spies8jenny: Any new information come out with it?
[22:15] spies8cinnamyn: out of wut.?
[22:18] spies8jenny: Anything new that you found out about since teams switched I mean.
[22:18] spies8cinnamyn: hm
[22:18] spies8cinnamyn: not really, jus' tryin 2 get 2 no how yall feel
[22:18] spies8cinnamyn: cuz i pritty much no how we old demz c things
[22:19] spies8jenny: Anyone in particular that you're looking at, or that you think are fairly safe cits for now?
[22:20] spies8cinnamyn: frum wut i have seen
[22:20] spies8cinnamyn: i think awohali n' mary b citz.
[22:21] spies8cinnamyn: dey aint loud, but dey no wut dey doin n' helpin i feel lyke
[22:21] spies8cinnamyn: mary iz gud wit' queschins
[22:21] spies8cinnamyn: n' awohali iz nice wit' lookin' at errybody's point of view
[22:26] spies8cinnamyn: magalie iz jus' weird
[22:26] spies8cinnamyn: cuz all she duz iz say weird shit
[22:26] spies8cinnamyn: n' i dont no if datz suspishis or not lmbo
[22:26] spies8jenny: She seems easily angry too.
[22:26] spies8cinnamyn: i mean dont get me rong, most of da tyme im laffin' my azz off at her
[22:27] spies8cinnamyn: but she aint neva bring nothin' sensible 2 da table
[22:28] spies8cinnamyn: i mean..her vote 4 margot
[22:28] spies8cinnamyn: Margot:Either that girl has somethin goin on in her life or this strange mother fucker has got to be a spy that is playin under the Radar.
[22:28] spies8cinnamyn: wut iz da proper responze 2 dat.?
[22:30] spies8jenny: I would have said "Why do you say she's been under the radar lately?"
[22:31] spies8cinnamyn: den she wud have sed "shutup ya fuckin dyke"
[22:31] spies8cinnamyn: probly
[22:31] spies8jenny: Well then that's just not helpful.
[22:32] spies8cinnamyn: i no, i dont no wut 2 think of her
[22:36] spies8jenny: Something to watch for if it continues for a long time I guess?
[22:36] spies8cinnamyn: yea cuz i mean i guess it wuz only round 2, but now we gettin' further in 2 it
[22:37] spies8cinnamyn: i want 2 hear sum acshual shit
[22:42] spies8jenny: Speaking of which, here she is it looks like.
[23:05] spies8cinnamyn: oh lawd
[23:05] spies8cinnamyn: spies8cinnamyn: (11:03:56 PM) so magalie who do u suspect.?
spies8magalie: (11:04:22 PM) I suspect you steph
[23:05] spies8jenny: Please tell me she meant that she suspects you and stephi-kins.
[23:06] spies8jenny: and that she didn't mean to call you stephi-kins.
[23:06] spies8cinnamyn: she sed she suspects steph
[23:06] spies8cinnamyn: i told her she aint on our side
[23:06] spies8jenny: She respond to that yet?
[23:07] spies8cinnamyn: she sed "den wut da fuck is nita goin on about"
[23:07] spies8cinnamyn: i dont no wut shez talkin bout
[23:21] spies8cinnamyn: ok so i think she wuz talkin' wit nita bout stephanie, n' nita brought up gud points bout steph, so magalie sed dat wuz suspishis.?
[23:21] spies8jenny: Possibly. I asked Nita about it, and she said she was just talking in general, and not just the current team.
[23:22] spies8cinnamyn: oook so i probly caught her offguard
[23:23] spies8cinnamyn: i still dont no y she called me steph, but i guess datz magalie
[23:23] spies8jenny: Welcome back to the game I'd say.
[23:23] spies8jenny: Hope you had a nice break, now let's give you some crazy.
[23:26] spies8cinnamyn: foreal

Monday, June 28, 2010 16:43:35
[16:43] spies8jenny: Anything new since we last talked?
[16:44] spies8cinnamyn: no but i jus' wanna talk wit' u sum more bout da role shit sorry it keepz cummin up
[16:44] spies8jenny: It's okies, if you're confused about something that happened, might as well ask right?
[16:44] spies8cinnamyn: well im jus' wondrin
[16:45] spies8cinnamyn: both u n' nita new bout da role rite.?
[16:45] spies8jenny: Yep. Al told me 2 days after the game started, and he decided to tell Ni-Ni the day before exile to try to make up for the fights they kept having.
[16:46] spies8cinnamyn: so if u aint da type 2 make cases, n' nita also new bout it, y didnt u vote 4 da person nita made a case on
[16:46] spies8cinnamyn: themba
[16:46] spies8cinnamyn: if u thot nita wuz a cit
[16:47] spies8jenny: Because I disagree with Ni-Ni about Themby being a spy.
[16:47] spies8cinnamyn: did u 2 talk at all bout sum1 else 2 vote 4
[16:50] spies8jenny: Ni-Ni was out the night of the exile, I hadn't seen her since after Al talked with her about her role. We'd talked a little bit about Stephi, along with Owen and Rondie in a smaller amount, before Al claiming to her came up. I think she agrees with me a bit more now about Stephi being strange, but we're on different teams now so not much we can do there unless we end up winning this challenge, and she comes up as the republicans choice for exile.
[16:51] spies8cinnamyn: i feel lyke u 2 didnt follo thru wit' helpin a cit wit a role
[16:51] spies8jenny: Speaking of Themby and Stephi though, I noticed something about Themby that could be helpful. She mixes up myself and Stephi a lot, and constantly says my name when she means Stephi, and the other way around.

It's possible one of the two of them are spies, but I don't think both of them are for now. I would think Themby would know who was on her team and be able to keep straight what a teammate did and what a citizen did.
[16:57] spies8cinnamyn: do u c how dat luks weird tho.? tha point of him tellin' hiz role 2 u guyz wuz so dat u cud save him n' he cud trus' u
[16:57] spies8cinnamyn: da point wuz not so dat u cud role claim 4 him, lmbo
[16:59] spies8jenny: Neither him or Ni-Ni were on at the time, and it looked to me like he was going to get exiled. And with Al admitting to lying about reading or not reading a case that was up about Lexi, the ones that were voting on him seemed fairly sure in their vote on him. Al came on a couple hours after exile ended that night, and said thanks to me for doing that since he agreed he probably would have been exiled if that didn't come up.
[17:00] spies8jenny: Thursday absolutely stunk for me. The top three cases that were up that night were on a potential town role and two people I thought were citizens.
[17:01] spies8jenny: I was hoping that after that claim came out and kept Al from getting exiled, it would open up a chance to get someone I actually had suspicions on, but that didn't end up happening at all.
[17:09] spies8cinnamyn: well i looked at ur chat
[17:09] spies8cinnamyn: n' u menshined stephanie once, lmbo
[17:10] spies8jenny: I was doing most of my chatting about the vote with people in private, trying to get reasons as to why they were voting the way they were.
[17:11] spies8cinnamyn: ok den

[Jenny]

Sunday, June 27, 2010 22:53:21
[22:53] spies8jenny: Hi Cory!
[22:53] spies8cory: Yo.
[22:53] spies8cory: What's up?
[22:54] spies8jenny: How have you been lately? I'm doing alright, just trying to meet everyone again.
[22:54] spies8cory: Been tired. Lol.
[22:54] spies8jenny: Same here, staying up late too many nights in a row.
[22:57] spies8cory: So how are you enjoying the land of the democrats?
[22:58] spies8jenny: Well Claude is just weird.
[22:59] spies8cory: Lol he is
[22:59] spies8cory: He is our local robot
[23:00] spies8jenny: Just updated the group chat topic so you can see what you missed.
[23:01] spies8cory: Thanks
[23:01] spies8cory: I take it Chance hasn't been around much
[23:01] spies8jenny: I haven't seen Lucky today so far.
[23:01] spies8cory: Otherwise I'd suspect those two would be at each other's throats

Monday, June 28, 2010 16:53:47
[16:53] spies8jenny: Hi Cory.
[16:54] spies8cory: Hi
[16:54] spies8jenny: How are you doing?
[16:54] spies8cory: Better.
[16:54] spies8cory: I felt pretty bad last night
[16:54] spies8jenny: I must have gotten whatever you had, because I've been sick today.
[16:55] spies8cory: You got alcohol poisoning?!
[16:55] spies8cory: Didn't know it was contageous
[16:55] spies8jenny: Ok so maybe not then. I just got a stomach bug.
[16:55] spies8jenny: Had to leave work earlier today after I had to throw up at work.
[16:55] spies8jenny: Not fun.
[16:57] spies8cory: Yeah, definitely not.
[16:57] spies8cory: I had that happen during a final
[16:57] spies8cory: Except I somehow pulled through. Lol.
[16:59] spies8jenny: Well that's good.
[17:02] spies8jenny: So what do you think today about the game?
[17:02] spies8cory: I'm pondering what to do about the whole Claude/Chance thing
[17:02] spies8cory: They've been at eachothers throats since episode one
[17:02] spies8cory: And it was put on hold last episode because Chance was made immune from exile
[17:02] spies8jenny: I still haven't seen Lucky really.
[17:03] spies8jenny: And Claude I don't even begin to understand with some of his logic.
[17:03] spies8cory: Oh, I've got a question for you
[17:03] spies8jenny: Okies.
[17:03] spies8cory: Allan told you about his role in episode 1 right?
[17:03] spies8jenny: 2 days after the game started.
[17:03] spies8cory: And were you sure he was a Citizen as a result?
[17:06] spies8jenny: Not really because of the role itself if that's what you mean. Part of why I don't think he's a spy is because I don't see any sense in why a spy would claim a role to someone nearly out of the blue, only two days into the game. And after Al started going crazy during episode 2, I thought it made even less sense for him to be a spy, because after having just lost Lexi, I would think the spies would want to reign in the sort of craziness that Al got into before it became "That's it I'm quitting, no wait never mind by the way I lied about reading over that Lexi case."
[17:13] spies8cory: Ok, so ultimately, you still didn't think he was a Spy.
[17:13] spies8jenny: Right.
[17:13] spies8jenny: He's certainly made me bang my head on the wall a few times since he claimed to me.
[17:13] spies8cory: Lol.
[17:14] spies8jenny: For a while he didn't want to talk to Ni-Ni at all, and I had to bash it into him that refusing to talk to people is going to come off as a spy move, and that I didn't want to see him exiled over something as dumb as that. Which he eventually listened to, thankfully.
[17:14] spies8cory: Well I think my next question is
[17:15] spies8cory: What did you do to try to keep him from being exiled?
[17:15] spies8jenny: Besides the role claim you mean?
[17:16] spies8jenny: If I remember right, the main reasons that people were voting him over came up the day of the exile, that being him admitting to lying about how much he read the case on Lexi. After that came out, everyone started going HE LIED, HE LIED, CALL THE LIAR POLICE, HE LIED, and I just started banging my head on the wall again.
[17:17] spies8cory: Lol.
[17:18] spies8jenny: Thursday was not a very fun day for me. We had some people all over Al for his behavior the last few days, and admitting to lying, we had people on Savanny for as far as I could tell because she listed her suspects, and a few people on Themby because she changed her vote to Zeddy after Zeddy made some really really bad comments the day of the first exile.
[17:18] spies8jenny: None of which I agreed were spies.
[17:19] spies8jenny: So I'm spending the hours before exile screaming at my computer, and trying to figure out how in the world I was supposed to convince people that all three of them were bad vote targets and to go after someone else entierly.
[17:21] spies8cory: When would you say Allan first seemed like a valid exile candidate?
[17:22] spies8jenny: So then it eventually becomes an hour before exile, and Al and Ni-Ni still haven't shown up yet, and I figure it's way too close to the vote as it is, if Al's role is going to come out, it'll have to be now. So then everyone goes crazy with that reveal, and I'm hoping people will switch to someone like Stephi, since she was the only case that was even remotely close to being viable over Savanny or Themby. Which ended up getting nowhere.
[17:24] spies8jenny: As for Al, I dunno really. But him threatening to leave the game doesn't exactly seem like good reason to any alignment, and I don't see why any spy would purposely admit to lying about something right before exile.

If it turns out he's lying about his role? I swear I'll exile him so hard he'll be playing in spies7. Other then that, I guess we'll have to see if anything else comes up that makes sense to me as Allan being a spy over being a cit.
[17:26] spies8cory: What exactly was his role, as he claimed it to you?
[17:27] spies8jenny: He didn't tell me the role name, although he did say it had something to do with lobbying, so I've been thinking of it as "The Lobbyist."

He says that if a role gets used on him, he is given the ability to use that role himself as well. So if a doctor protects him, he gets a protection to use as well, and so on.
[17:28] spies8cory: Interesting
[17:29] spies8jenny: It gets really funny if you think of him like captain planet.

NIGHT PROTECTION.
EXILE BLOCK.
INVESTIGATION
VOTE SWAP
HEART
GO PLANET!
[17:32] spies8jenny:
[20:20] spies8jenny: Imprisonment is going, are you there?
[20:20] spies8cory: Yeah I'm watching.
[20:21] spies8jenny: Okies

Not many people talking in the room, so I wasn't sure if anyone forgot about it.
[20:21] spies8cory: Lol. Sorry, just working on other things while it goes by
[20:33] spies8jenny: Okies, time to get ready for the challenge.

Wednesday, June 30, 2010 21:47:21
[21:47] spies8cory: Yo Jenny.
[21:47] spies8jenny: Hi there!
[21:48] spies8cory: You a Spy, girl?
[21:48] spies8jenny: Of course not.
[21:49] spies8cory: Mmmmhmmm
[21:49] spies8cory: So who are you suspecting right now, Jenny?
[21:49] spies8jenny: Any questions you have that will be of more help?
[21:49] spies8jenny: Right now I'm probably going to be on Maggie, for reasons I posted earlier for the Republicans to see.
[21:49] spies8cory: If you couldn't vote Magalie, who would you vote for?
[21:51] spies8jenny: Maybe claude, just because of how strange he was acting when we talked in the group chat before. Speaking of which, i've been wanting to ask you about your case on him, and what it was exactly.
[21:52] spies8cory: Lol.
[21:52] spies8cory: That's Chance you're thinking of.
[21:53] spies8cory: And he actually posted his case.
[21:53] spies8jenny: Oh whoops. For some reason I was thinking I was talking to him. Arg my brain is tired tonight.
[21:55] spies8cory: Would you say your strategy is to find Citizens or to find Spies?
[21:57] spies8jenny: I prefer to figure out who I think makes sense as a citizen most, and narrow my suspects down that way. That way I at least have a good idea where to be looking at for suspects, and it helps me remember who I might not have gone over yet for whatever reason.
[22:03] spies8cory: Also, what were your reasons for voting Zed over Alexei?
[22:04] spies8jenny: Zeddy came across as suspicious to me, and I wanted to wait a little longer on Lexi to make sure we weren't doing a summer rerun o Callahan from Spies6.
[22:04] spies8jenny: on Callahan*
[22:04] spies8cory: Did Alexei seem suspicious at all?
[22:05] spies8jenny: He certainly wasn't doing himself many favors. I remember commenting in my confessional at one point that we went from one guy who could barely form a sentance to another.
[22:11] spies8cory: What do you think that suggested?
[22:13] spies8jenny: Well at the time I posted that, I was just banging my head on the wall wishing that people could just talk in english when defending themselves. After a while Lexi was at least able to form coherant sentances when responding to questions, and then he just ended up going "Ah well, at least I'll have fun in the viewer's lounge, good luck!"
[22:14] spies8cory: Did you find that suspicious?
[22:16] spies8jenny: I wasn't exactly upset to see him get votes, but I would have prefered waiting a few more days just to make sure that he wasn't just giving up because his name came up. I wasn't really expecting him to live past Exile two though, if he'd somehow managed to live through the first one.
[22:17] spies8cory: What was it you found suspicious about Zed?
[22:21] spies8jenny: Well the first thing that came up was on opening night, when I finally got around to talking to him it was two hours after roles went out, and he told me that I was the first person he'd talked to since the roles had been sent. That struck me as weird after the fact, and I brought it up in the group chat the next day to ask what he was doing then. I was expecting it to be a quick question, that we'd move on to something else afterwards, but instead it became this giant ridiculous mess about him saying what he was doing the night before the opening chat, and that he couldn't figure out how to turn off aim, and he was busy playing elder scrolls the night before, and at some points nobody could even understand what he was saying.

And then he starts doing it again, and even makes a remark, when asked about his suspicions on Al, says that Al should at least post in their HQ, to which just about everyone in the room immediately think "Spy HQ."
[22:21] spies8jenny: Which is part of the reason Themby and Tini switched onto him.

[Jenny]

Sunday, June 27, 2010 15:38:21
[15:38] spies8gertrude: Why haven't you messaged me yet? I hear you're really good at nabbing people as soon as they log on.
[15:38] spies8jenny: Hi there Gerty!

Sorry bout that, sister is talking to me at the same time.
[15:39] spies8gertrude: It's not a problem
[15:39] spies8gertrude: I was only teasing
[15:39] spies8jenny: I haven't seen you since before teams went out, how have you been?
[15:40] spies8gertrude: Not too badly, not too badly.
[15:40] spies8gertrude: Yourself?
[15:40] spies8jenny: Just getting to know all the new people.
[15:41] spies8gertrude: Ha, yeah.
[15:41] spies8gertrude: Welcome to the Democrats! It should be a lot more peaceful now that we only have 2 of Chance/Claude/Jasmine.
[15:42] spies8jenny: I liked Jasmine when we talked before game.
[15:42] spies8jenny: I dunno why Claude is so upset about the roleplaying, it's not like it wasn't obvious that it was going to be there when he signed up.
[15:44] spies8gertrude: Yes.
[15:44] spies8gertrude: It's odd.
[19:14] spies8jenny: Hi again!
[19:17] spies8gertrude: Hey!
[19:39] spies8jenny: How are you?
[19:40] spies8gertrude: Pretty good, you?
[19:40] spies8jenny: Doing well, still trying to figure out where everyone is.
[19:43] spies8gertrude: Ha, yeah. Maybe then didn't all the get memo.
[19:43] spies8jenny: Hopefully they don't wait until the imprisonment to come back.
[20:10] spies8jenny: I was just saying this to Ni-Ni, but if he's a citizen, he might just be taking everything overly dramatically and serious too though, especially since he apparently doesn't like the roleplaying in the game, and then thinks that everyone else will think the same way.

That's the only thing I can think of to explain him if he's playing as a cit.
[20:12] spies8gertrude: Mm.
[20:12] spies8gertrude: Claude is an enigma
[20:27] spies8jenny: *sigh* I can see why Claude might have been getting on your nerves.
[20:27] spies8gertrude: Ha.
[20:27] spies8jenny: How he worded Claude's roleclaim? Really?
[20:28] spies8jenny: That's about as silly as Stephi-kins remark about Rondie asking a second time about what bussing was.
[21:39] spies8gertrude: Please restrain me.
[22:11] spies8jenny: Aww, I wanted to see you beat some sense into him.
[22:11] spies8jenny: So what do you think so far with this new group?

Monday, June 28, 2010 15:24:19
[15:24] spies8jenny: How are you doing?
[15:25] spies8gertrude: I'm fine, how are you?
[15:27] spies8jenny: Not so great.
[15:27] spies8gertrude: Oh? Why not?
[15:27] spies8jenny: Well partially because I had to leave work early today because I'm apparently sick.
[15:27] spies8gertrude: Awww!
[15:28] spies8gertrude: I'm so sorry!
[15:29] spies8jenny: And partially because it looks like Al might not have been as much of a lead as I thought he was when I put up that claim for him, so now I feel even more bad about Savanny leaving, because I never suspected her to begin with, and I thought that after the claim was up there'd be a better chance of getting someone that was actually suspicious up for exile.
[15:32] spies8jenny:
[15:33] spies8gertrude: Sorry, the phone rang.
[15:33] spies8gertrude: Can you explain what this means?
[15:33] spies8gertrude: not have been as much of a lead as I thought he was
[15:33] spies8gertrude: What do you mean by lead?
[15:34] spies8jenny: For the exile vote.
[15:34] spies8jenny: I thought Al had a bigger lead in votes then he apparently did.
[15:34] spies8gertrude: Ohh.
[15:34] spies8gertrude: You thought he was in more danger than he was, you mean.
[15:35] spies8jenny: Right.
[15:35] spies8jenny: I'll be right back, want to reload AIM. Can't seem to get the group chats working.
[15:35] spies8gertrude: Ok.

Monday, June 28, 2010 15:38:49
[15:38] spies8gertrude: So you're feeling badly because your claim for Allan may have been unnecessary.
[15:40] spies8jenny: It was still close enough that I don't feel bad about bringing it up, since you never know if there's going to be any surprise votes, but I thought there was going to be a better chance of switching to someone else over Al or Savanny.
[15:40] spies8gertrude: I understand.
[15:40] spies8gertrude: So what brought this to your attention?
[15:41] spies8gertrude: That Allan may not have been in the lead.
[15:41] spies8jenny: Hammy was asking about it earlier before you came in.
[15:41] spies8jenny: About why I brought up the roleclaim when it didn't look like Al had the most votes.
[15:41] spies8gertrude: Ah, ok.
[15:41] spies8gertrude: Yes, he mentioned that to me yesterday.
[15:41] spies8gertrude: I guess he followed through with those thoughts.
[15:45] spies8jenny: Thursday stunk.
[17:33] spies8jenny: You around Gerty?
[17:33] spies8jenny: Al is on and wants to say hi.
[17:34] spies8gertrude: I am now, ha.
[18:03] spies8jenny: So who are you thinking so far?
[18:04] spies8gertrude: I'm not sure.
[18:04] spies8gertrude: I almost feel like I need to vote against the majority this time.
[18:05] spies8gertrude: I didn't realize I was the only one to vote for both Camilla and Margot.
[18:06] spies8jenny: Just vote for who you think is suspicious. It'll help if there's any chance of them getting votes, but just go with someone you actually consider a spy.
[18:07] spies8gertrude: Well, I did!
[18:07] spies8gertrude: I honestly thought they were both Spies.
[18:07] spies8jenny: I mean for the upcoming one.
[18:07] spies8gertrude: Right, I know.
[18:07] spies8gertrude: Bleh.
[18:07] spies8gertrude: I'm upset with myself right now
[18:07] spies8jenny: At least you didn't have to deal with three cases that you disagreed with being the top three options.
[18:08] spies8gertrude: Mmm.
[18:08] spies8gertrude: That's true.
[18:08] spies8jenny: "Let's vote Al!"

NO!

"No let's vote Savanny!"

NO, STOP IT.

"But what about Themby!"

DANG YOU PEOPLE.
[18:08] spies8gertrude: Ha. Who did you want to vote?
[18:09] spies8jenny: None of those three. If it was my choice I would have picked Zeddy, but the only case that night I agreed with that even had a remote chance was Stephi-kins.
[18:09] spies8jenny: Which just about nobody joined in with.
[18:09] spies8jenny: Even after I told them about Al.
[18:09] spies8gertrude: I thought Nita thought it was Stephanie?
[18:09] spies8jenny: Nita went with Savanny.
[19:55] spies8jenny: Almost time for it.
[19:56] spies8gertrude: Oh my gosh.
[19:56] spies8gertrude: I almost forgot.
[19:56] spies8jenny: So did the rest of our team it seems.
[19:56] spies8jenny: Where is everyone?
[19:57] spies8gertrude: I'm not sure. Today is odd.
[19:58] spies8jenny: I'm kinda hoping a republican gets picked so that we have an advantage for the challenge.
[19:58] spies8gertrude: Oh, Sam wouldn't make one of us sit out?
[19:58] spies8jenny: I honestly don't remember what he does for stuff like that.
[19:59] spies8jenny: But whether he did or not, the republican team seems to be the big ones in the evening since the start of the game.
[19:59] spies8jenny: I'd rather not wait twelve hours for the rest of our team to get started.
[19:59] spies8gertrude: Mm, agreed.
[19:59] spies8gertrude: I'll be here tonight.
[20:26] spies8gertrude: Are we allowed to say who we think it will be or who we hope it isnt?
[20:26] spies8gertrude: or no
[20:26] spies8jenny: I think so?
[20:27] spies8jenny: I'd think as long as we're not trying to do code words for game chat, or trying to hide it or whatever, we should be fine. Sammy is on though if you want to ask to be sure.
[20:27] spies8gertrude: Wait, code for what?
[20:27] spies8gertrude: Hide what?
[20:27] spies8gertrude: I'm confused.
[20:27] spies8gertrude: I'll just be quiet, ha.
[20:27] spies8jenny: Like if saying "Oh I hope that Charlie Brown isn't eliminated" means that he has a role or something.
[20:28] spies8jenny: or something stupid.
[21:04] spies8jenny: I'm trying so hard not to make Charlie the Unicorn jokes.
[21:04] spies8gertrude: Hahaha.
[21:04] spies8gertrude: We should've added a leoplurydon!
[21:04] spies8gertrude: That is one word I don't know how to spell.
[21:05] spies8jenny: Leoplurodon?
[21:05] spies8gertrude: A maaaaagical leoplurodon.
[21:05] spies8jenny: It will tell us the way to Candy Mountain!
[21:05] spies8jenny: Yeah, Candy Mountain!
[21:05] spies8gertrude: Haha.
[21:05] spies8gertrude: Love it
[21:17] spies8jenny: As long as we put banana's in our ears I think we'll be ok.
[21:18] spies8gertrude: Hahaha.
[21:32] spies8jenny: Waaaah!
[21:52] spies8jenny: Gerty, can you add more grass to your picture to match what 6 has?
[21:56] spies8jenny: Gerty?
[21:56] spies8jenny: You there?

[Jenny]

Thursday, June 24, 2010 23:54:00
[23:54] spies8jenny:
[23:54] spies8hambone: =/
[23:55] spies8jenny: I miss savanny
[23:55] spies8hambone: i rarely spoke to her
[23:56] spies8hambone: so i dont rly
[23:56] spies8hambone: i think she was very dumb
[23:56] spies8jenny: She was one of my favorite people to talk to.
[23:56] spies8hambone: if she had this role
[23:56] spies8hambone: then she shouldlve used it
[23:56] spies8hambone: to prove her innnocence
[23:56] spies8jenny: Messenger is useless if everyone knows who it is.
[23:56] spies8jenny: Not to mention it could be a role for either side.
[23:57] spies8jenny: If it's the same messenger I'm thinking of, it'd just post an annonymous message in a person's confessional.

Monday, June 28, 2010 00:14:49
[00:14] spies8hambone: hey jen
[01:05] spies8jenny: Hi there!
[01:06] spies8hambone: hey :-D
[01:06] spies8jenny:
[01:07] spies8hambone:
[01:07] spies8hambone: have u met the new ppl
[01:11] spies8jenny: A few of them.
[01:11] spies8hambone: and what do u think
[01:14] spies8jenny: Welcome back to crazytown.
[01:29] spies8hambone: sorry i lost internet
[02:22] spies8hambone: so what do u think of the ppl we met
[02:23] spies8jenny: Welcome back to crazytown.

[02:23] spies8hambone: you already said that
[02:23] spies8hambone: whats that mean
[02:24] spies8jenny: It means don't expect to have sane people now.

Claude seems like he's a little out there. Considering voting him, but he could just not be thinking straight. He reminds me of Zeddy though, so I might end up picking him if nothing else makes sense.
[02:25] spies8hambone: Mhm.
[02:26] spies8hambone: I've been talking with the new ppl all night
[02:26] spies8hambone: about chance and claude
[02:31] spies8jenny: Find out anything interesting?
[02:32] spies8hambone: yup yup
[02:32] spies8hambone: lots o stuff
[02:32] spies8jenny: Such as?
[02:33] spies8hambone: hold on a sec
[02:33] spies8hambone: im explaining somethin to gerty
[02:34] spies8jenny: Okies!

Monday, June 28, 2010 02:37:44
[02:37] spies8jenny: Well you'll have to tell me tomorrow, I need to get to bed. They like it when you don't fall asleep at work.
[02:37] spies8jenny:
[02:38] spies8jenny: Night Hammy!

Monday, June 28, 2010 14:05:16
[14:05] spies8jenny: Hi Hammy!
[14:06] spies8hambone: hey
[14:06] spies8jenny: How are you doing?
[14:07] spies8hambone: good good
[14:07] spies8hambone: ok i got a question for u
[14:07] spies8hambone: in just a second
[14:08] spies8jenny: Okies.
[14:19] spies8jenny: Where did you go?
[14:22] spies8hambone: talkin to someone about it
[14:22] spies8jenny: Okies.

Just watching in and out right now, since I'm not feeling too good today. Had to leave work early since I got sick.
[15:10] spies8jenny: I don't want to interuppt the discussion about claude right now, so I'll just talk to you here.

I think I found where part of the problem was. I counted four votes for Al for when I put the claim up, and I was talking to Savanny about how I really hated all the options that were put up for that night, she had told me she counted three votes on herself. Looking back now, it looks like Savanny missed a couple people, and I hadn't bothered to double check it, since I was busy trying to figure out if it was remotely possible to switch all the exile options with other ones.

Well that's just great, now I feel even more bad about Savanny leaving. A one vote difference between them, whether it was 3 and 4 or 5 and 4 is still close enough that I'd be worried about surprise votes from people, but I could have sworn Al was ahead at the time. No wonder trying to get people to switch to Stephi after that didn't come out like I thought it would.

Monday, June 28, 2010 20:29:00
[20:29] spies8jenny: The last one is up.
[21:03] spies8jenny: Hammy go ahead and work on piece 3 since cory is already in the middle of piece 2.
[21:03] spies8hambone: how can i work on 3
[21:03] spies8hambone: if i cant see 2
[21:03] spies8hambone: :-D
[21:03] spies8jenny: True.
[21:03] spies8hambone: hehehehe
[21:03] spies8jenny: FINE, BE RIGHT.
[21:03] spies8jenny:
[21:03] spies8hambone: yay
[21:03] spies8jenny:
[21:15] spies8jenny: YOU CAN DO THREE NOW!
[22:01] spies8jenny: HAMMY! We're almost done1
[22:01] spies8jenny: Just add in a lightning bolt to match cory's and we're done
[22:03] spies8jenny: Go Hammy Go!
[22:05] spies8hambone: done

[Jenny]

Tuesday, June 29, 2010 18:58:32
[18:58] spies8magalie: Jenny can I ask you something?
[18:58] spies8jenny: Sure!
[19:00] spies8magalie: why did Nita come at me saying that I told you things when I didnt have a conversation with you yet since you were on my team
[19:01] spies8jenny: That was a bit of a misunderstanding.

Spice had told me about what you told her, and I told Ni-Ni about it. Somehow she must have mistook that as me telling her that you said it to both of us.
[19:01] spies8jenny: I corrected her about it when it came up in group chat.
[19:05] spies8magalie: sorry jenn my computer had a messed up on me can you repeat that
[19:05] spies8jenny: 19:01] spies8jenny: That was a bit of a misunderstanding.

Spice had told me about what you told her, and I told Ni-Ni about it. Somehow she must have mistook that as me telling her that you said it to both of us.
[19:01] spies8jenny: I corrected her about it when it came up in group chat.

[19:08] spies8magalie: god im just tired of everyone saying im a spy when im not

[Jenny]

Sunday, June 27, 2010 13:22:25
[13:22] spies8jenny: Hi there Mary!
[14:49] spies8jenny: So how have you been?
[14:49] spies8mary: Ok.
[14:49] spies8mary: I don't like days off.
[14:49] spies8jenny: Me either.
[14:49] spies8mary: I wanted to talk to people after those exiles.
[14:50] spies8mary: Can you tell me anything about how Savannah's exile happened?
[14:51] spies8jenny: I haven't a clue where that came up really.
[14:51] spies8jenny: Made no sense to me.
[14:51] spies8mary: Were you an Allan voter before he claimed?
[14:52] spies8jenny: I never voted Allan.
[14:52] spies8jenny: And I claimed for him.
[14:52] spies8jenny: He wasn't on when it came out.
[14:54] spies8mary: Why did you vote for Stephanie?
[14:54] spies8jenny: Because she at least was somewhat suspicious over Al, Savanny, and Themby which most people kept talking about.
[14:54] spies8jenny: I would rather have picked Zeddy, but with 3 cases up and none of them I agreed with, it was not exactly a good night for me.
[14:55] spies8mary: What were Stephanie's reasons for voting?
[14:55] spies8mary: She ended up voting Savannah I believe, but was "suspicious" of a few others.
[14:56] spies8jenny: As far as I can tell, because Savanny was voting her. I still don't really get what the big deal over her was.
[14:56] spies8jenny: The big deal over Savanny I mean.
[14:56] spies8mary: Was it OMGUS?
[14:57] spies8mary: Or did Stephanie have other stated reasons for voting Savannah?
[14:57] spies8jenny: She said some reasons for voting Savanny, but I really didn't get what she was trying to say.
[14:57] spies8mary: But you found her suspicious for her reasons.
[14:57] spies8jenny: Something about how Savanny was bringing up suspects.
[14:58] spies8jenny: Stephi seemed suspicious to me because she kept coming up with weird reasons to be suspicious of people
[14:58] spies8mary: Right, that's what I read in your group chats.
[14:58] spies8mary: You didn't think her reasons were good.
[14:58] spies8mary: I just wanted to know what the reasons were to see if I agree with you.
[14:58] spies8mary: What do you know about the old Democrat team?
[14:59] spies8jenny: I remember she said she was suspicious of Rondie because he asked more then once what bussing refered to.
[14:59] spies8mary: I read that. Was she the one that started that?
[14:59] spies8mary: It's a terrible reason to suspect someone, in my opinion.
[14:59] spies8jenny: Yes she was.
[14:59] spies8mary: If someone is new or wants to roleplay a new player, that's their prerogative.
[15:00] spies8jenny: Not to mention knowing a term doesn't really mean anything.
[15:00] spies8jenny: Goodness knows mafia has a lot of lingo and abbreviations.
[15:00] spies8mary: I think Rondak looked more suspicious for lurking in group chats.
[15:01] spies8mary: Than for anything about his vocabulary.
[15:01] spies8jenny: I've been wanting to talk with him more about the game, he's said he's been having problems figuring out what he's supposed to do. He's been getting more into it the last couple days at least so that's a good thing.
[15:01] spies8mary: I believe I read two occasions where he popped up when someone called his name after he was silent for a long while.
[15:01] spies8mary: Do you suspect him?
[15:02] spies8jenny: Not enough to vote for him yet, but I do want to hear more from him.
[15:02] spies8mary: What reasons do you have for suspecting him?
[15:03] spies8jenny: It's mostly just that I haven't heard him talk much game wise yet, so I don't have much of a read on him yet.
[15:03] spies8mary: Ok.
[15:03] spies8mary: Do you believe Allan's roleclaim is a Citizen role?
[15:04] spies8jenny: He claimed to me only two days into the game, and I don't really see a spy doing a roleclaim that early. That aside, the role itself could go either way, and he's even said he thinks it's possible that both sides have a role like that.
[15:05] spies8mary: Why would he claim so early?
[15:05] spies8mary: It doesn't sound like he's very concerned that you could be a spy.
[15:06] spies8mary: Does that make sense? You got quiet.
[15:07] spies8jenny: Sorry, talking to Spice also.
[15:07] spies8mary: Is that her new nickname?
[15:07] spies8mary: What spice is she?
[15:07] spies8jenny: Anyways, I think Al claimed to me partially because he thought I was a cit, and partially because I wasn't being mean to him.
[15:08] spies8mary: Was everyone else being "mean to him"?
[15:08] spies8jenny: And Spice is refering to Cinnamon of course.
[15:09] spies8jenny: Well mostly he was arguing with Nita a lot, and I was trying to help the two of them about that.
[15:09] spies8mary: But is she Big Spice or Chocolate Spice or Fabulous Spice?
[15:12] spies8jenny: Doesn't matter to me )
[15:13] spies8mary: As far as I can tell, Nita looks like a Citizen. Do you agree?
[15:14] spies8jenny: I agree, she doesn't make sense as a spy to me at all. Neither does Tina. They were the ones that first brought up Lexi, right after it sounded like everyone was fine with voting Zeddy.
[15:14] spies8jenny: No matter what alignment Zeddy is, I don't see a reason for a spy to switch over to another spy like that.
[15:15] spies8mary: I read a lot of Zed's posts. My guess is he is a Citizen.
[15:15] spies8mary: What do you think?
[15:15] spies8jenny: I wanted him exiled over anyone else brought up thursday.
[15:15] spies8mary: Why?
[15:16] spies8jenny: Because Al didn't make any sense as a spy, Savanny made no sense as a spy, Themby I get a cit read from, and Zeddy to me seems like a spy that started off saying ridiculous things and then suddenly got really quiet like other spies told him to lay low for a while and not talk much.
[15:16] spies8mary: Did he quiet down before the last exile?
[15:17] spies8mary: I saw a lot of reasoning from him in the first week.
[15:17] spies8jenny: I didn't hear a whole lot from him game wise after the night where he brought up Lexi suspicions right after Lexi was already exiled.
[15:18] spies8mary: Is that in the group chats? That's an odd thing to do.
[15:18] spies8jenny: Yep.
[15:18] spies8mary: He's not in our group, is he?
[15:18] spies8jenny: No he's still Republican, otherwise I'd probably want to vote him again.
[15:18] spies8mary: Ok.
[15:19] spies8mary: What do you think of Gabriel?
[15:19] spies8jenny: I dunno yet. He comes across as a cit to me when we talk, but he'd been on Savanny for inaccurate information for a long while.
[15:19] spies8mary: What inaccurate information?
[15:20] spies8jenny: Well he was on Savanny for a long while because he thought she was pushing that we vote out inactives, when she wasn't.
[15:20] spies8mary: Ok. Is that in the group chats?
[15:20] spies8jenny: The actual part where we talked about voting inactives should be.
[15:20] spies8mary: What was his final reason for voting Savannah?
[15:21] spies8mary: If you corrected him about his bad reason?
[15:21] spies8jenny: Well I tried to correct him about it, but he was still on about it.
[15:21] spies8mary: Do you have any questions about your new team?
[15:22] spies8jenny: What exactly is the deal between Lucky and Claude anyways?
[15:23] spies8jenny: Do they actually have suspicions on each other, or do they just not like each other, and want them to be spies.
[15:23] spies8mary: Chance is Captain Ahab and Claude is the white whale.
[15:23] spies8mary: I don't think Claude is a spy unless he is lying about his role.
[15:24] spies8mary: I think Chance chooses not to see all the evidence for some reason.
[15:24] spies8mary: Even though I have brought it up a few times.
[15:24] spies8mary: It is possible he is a bad Citizen.
[15:25] spies8mary: I think it's more likely he's a spy who has reached the point of no return and can't back off Claude or he will look terrible.
[15:26] spies8jenny: If claude really is a cit though, and Lucky knows it, then that's not exactly the best line of thinking either, because then he'd come under fire once Claude was revealed as a cit.
[15:26] spies8mary: He was mostly single focused on Claude before Claude claimed.
[15:27] spies8mary: Claude's claim is what makes him look most Cit, in my opinion.
[15:27] spies8mary: Even though it was a bad play if he's a Citizen.
[15:27] spies8mary: As was Allan's.
[15:27] spies8jenny: Yeah I don't know why a spy would admit it either, but I do agree with Lucky that roles that affect votes are more often spy roles from what I've seen.
[15:27] spies8jenny: So I dunno with Claude yet really.
[15:28] spies8mary: Is Allan new to mafia?
[15:28] spies8jenny: I never bothered to ask. I don't think he is, but he might be.
[15:28] spies8mary: Because if he is a Citizen, what he did endangered the doctor.
[15:29] spies8mary: Same logic applies to Claude.
[15:29] spies8jenny: How does his claim endanger the doctor?
[15:29] spies8mary: If the spies wanted to kill the doctor at the start of the game, how many choices did they have?
[15:30] spies8jenny: And I think you forgot something, technically I announced Allan's role publically. He wasn't online at the time, and I didn't want to see a potential town role get exiled.
[15:31] spies8mary: Yes but if you are a spy
[15:31] spies8mary: Then Allan claiming to you would endanger the doctor.
[15:32] spies8jenny: Oh I see what you're saying. I guess just going by the numbers that's true, but with how Al had been acting, I personally think the spies wouldn't have picked him anyways, thinking he'd get himself exiled. Which he nearly did.
[15:32] spies8mary: Ok.
[15:33] spies8jenny: I don't know why he felt like he needed to claim that early though.
[15:33] spies8mary: If he was in trouble, it makes sense as either alignment.
[15:33] spies8jenny: He originally claimed to me on Friday.
[15:34] spies8jenny: Not 2 days ago friday, Friday as in 2 days after game start.
[15:34] spies8mary: Right.
[15:35] spies8jenny: So from there, yes it was a little weird for him to claim then, but I don't see it being something a spy would do. And although just by going with the numbers it does narrow down the doctor slightly, by the time the night hit came around, I don't think he would have ever been considered anyways.

Either way though, the question is if you think what he did makes him a spy or not.
[15:35] spies8jenny: We don't need to find bad plays really, just the spies.
[15:36] spies8mary: Who was voting him before he claimed?
[15:36] spies8jenny: Let's see, it would have been after Zeddy's first ridiculous night, and Lexi was only starting to be brought up, I'd say if there was any votes, it was mostly on Zeddy with maybe a few on Lexi.
[15:37] spies8mary: I mean this past exile.
[15:37] spies8mary: Thursday.
[15:38] spies8jenny: Oh. I didn't make a tally, but looking at the vote thread, most of the people who were talking about their votes were saying they were voting Al, with a bunch saying Savanny after that.
[15:38] spies8mary: Ok. So you thought he was in danger.
[15:39] spies8jenny: Yeah, it seemed fairly clear to most people that he was the lead vote that night.
[15:39] spies8jenny: I was hoping he'd come on so that he could have a say about it, but an hour before exile was cutting it close as it was.
[15:39] spies8mary: Was there any other real alternative besides Savannah?
[15:40] spies8mary: Or did your claim only put her at risk?
[15:40] spies8jenny: Themby was behind the two of them.
[15:40] spies8jenny: Although that wasn't much fun either since I didn't agree with that case as well.
[15:40] spies8jenny: After the claim went out there was some talk of voting Stephi-kins instead, but in the end only myself and Savanny actually did so.
[15:43] spies8mary: Did you tell anyone else about Allan's role in the week you kept it mostly secret?
[15:44] spies8jenny: I didn't tell anyone, and Al only claimed to Ni-Ni the day on Wednesday after he came back from wanting to quit.
[15:44] spies8jenny: So only the three of us knew before that.
[15:44] spies8mary: Ok.
[15:44] spies8mary: Who have Allan's suspects been?
[15:45] spies8jenny: Let me check.
[15:46] spies8jenny: Stephi-kins he's worried about, he used to be worried about Ni-Ni, but has since decided against that.
[15:46] spies8mary: Were they for good reasons?
[15:46] spies8mary: Ignoring his role claim, has he seemed like a Citizen to you?
[15:47] spies8jenny: He doesn't really make sense to me as a spy personally.
[15:59] spies8mary: Did anyone tell Savannah she should claim before exile if she had a role?
[16:02] spies8jenny: Hang on, laptop is dying need to get it plugged in.
[16:03] spies8jenny: Okies there we go. Anyways, yes I told her that she should, and it turns out she had one as well, but she didn't tell anyone until it was too late to change votes.
[16:03] spies8mary: I need to go visit my family's graves soon.
[16:03] spies8jenny: She had a messenger role, that she didn't want to claim because she felt it'd be useless if she did claim.

Monday, June 28, 2010 13:50:02
[13:50] spies8jenny: Hi Mary.
[13:50] spies8mary: Hi.
[13:50] spies8jenny: How are you today?
[13:50] spies8mary: Ok.
[13:50] spies8mary: I had a sliced pear for breakfast.
[13:51] spies8jenny: That sounds good.
[14:09] spies8jenny: Ni-Ni's worry is that talking about who is likely to be citizens right before imprisonment will give the spies a list of people to choose from to eliminate.

Monday, June 28, 2010 15:36:37
[15:36] spies8jenny: The room should work again if you restart AIM.
[20:20] spies8jenny: Imprisonment is going, are you there?
[20:35] spies8jenny: You there Mary?
[20:39] spies8mary: Hi.
[20:39] spies8jenny: Imprisonment just finished and Sammy is starting the challenge early it sounds like.
[20:40] spies8mary: Ok. I'm hurrying to finish my turnip tacos.
[20:40] spies8jenny: Okies good!
[20:40] spies8jenny: You want me to just say who left?
[20:40] spies8mary: I just read Imprisonment.
[20:40] spies8jenny: Okies.
[20:40] spies8mary: I was hoping we'd be lucky again.
[20:41] spies8jenny: Yeah

I liked Gabe-Gabe. We didn't agree on everything, but it was always a civil argument when we discussed things.s
[20:41] spies8mary: I'm glad it's not me, but I wish I got to know Gabriel.
[21:36] spies8jenny: You got 6 started?
[21:36] spies8jenny: We got everything else up.

Wednesday, June 30, 2010 21:24:01
[21:24] spies8mary: This is painful.
[21:24] spies8jenny: The group chat? I've been talking to Lucky, what's going on in it?
[21:24] spies8mary: Magalie can barely express a thought in words. It's sad.
[21:25] spies8mary: I was going to ask you a few questions, but I'll wait until you're free.
[21:25] spies8jenny: Okies.
[21:25] spies8mary: Chat me up when you're done with Chance.
[21:26] spies8jenny: Sure!
[21:35] spies8jenny: ?
[21:35] spies8jenny: Okies, what did you want to ask me
[21:35] spies8mary: All sorts of things!
[21:35] spies8jenny: Yaaaay!
[21:35] spies8jenny:
[21:35] spies8mary: I guess a good place to start is what's your take on your new teammates so far?
[21:37] spies8jenny: Well Maggie... I don't even know what to think with her.

Claude seems a little out there as well, but at least he's sort of trying. In his special way.

And most everyone else I'm still getting to know really.
[21:37] spies8mary: Do you think Claude is a Spy?
[21:38] spies8jenny: It's possible, but I'm still debating with myself on him. He could be a spy, but he could also easily just be a nutcase.
[21:38] spies8jenny: I really don't get why he keeps trying to do these "Me or Him" setups.
[21:38] spies8mary: And Magalie? Gut instinct on her?
[21:40] spies8jenny: Gut instinct on her is what the heck is she doing? Nobody I talk to seems to think she's doing very much in the game at all.
[21:40] spies8jenny: I'm planning on voting her for now because 2 weeks of that is strange enough to warrent looking into, but whatever alignment she is, what the heck is she trying to do?
[21:40] spies8mary: What do you think of Chance's case on Claude?
[21:41] spies8jenny: I haven't gotten a chance to ask him much about it yet, and I'm behind in the group chat right now.
[21:41] spies8mary: If you'd rather, we can chat later.
[21:41] spies8jenny: I'll make sure to ask him once we're done.
[21:41] spies8jenny: No, I don't mind.
[21:41] spies8mary: They type so slow, I was hoping we could multitask.
[21:42] spies8jenny: Anything else you're curious about?
[21:42] spies8mary: Yes, but I'm fascinated by Magalie at the moment.
[21:43] spies8jenny: I better go get caught up then.
[21:43] spies8mary: I want to know more about your thought process on Alexei.
[21:43] spies8mary: And your talks with him.
[21:45] spies8jenny: Lexi I wasn't too upset to see get votes. I personally wanted to vote out Zeddy first though, because I wanted to see more on Lexi before deciding on him.
[21:45] spies8mary: What did you think when you read the Nita/Tina thread on Alexei?
[21:46] spies8jenny: I agreed that he seemed to be bandwagoning a bit, but on Day 1 it's harder to tell if that's just because there's so little to go on, or if it's because of spies hoping for an easy exile, which is part of why I wanted to see more of him first.
[21:47] spies8mary: What got you so stuck on Zed?
[21:49] spies8jenny: Because he was falling apart over the simplest of things, and making all sorts of ridiculous statements.

I asked him about where he went after roles went out since he had told me he hadn't talked with anyone yet since roles went out, and it had been a couple hours since that had happend, so in the group chat the next day I asked him about it. It wasn't even meant to be any sort of interrogation, but it ended up getting absolutely ridiculous.
[21:49] spies8mary: Ok.
[21:49] spies8mary: We can move this to the group chat so more people can get involved.
[21:49] spies8jenny: And then a few days later.
[21:50] spies8jenny: He starts falling apart in the exact same manner again, and we're back to ridiculous land.

The day after the Lexi exile happens, we're in the group chat? He starts bringing up reasons Lexi was suspicious.
[21:50] spies8mary: I saw that.
[21:51] spies8jenny: What is even the sense in that?
[21:51] spies8mary: What did you want Alexei to explain when you said in group chat, "It sounds like you got some 'splainin to do."
[21:51] spies8mary: After you said that, you didn't ask him anything.
[21:52] spies8jenny: I honestly don't remember saying that. Can you point me out to where that is so I can refresh my memory?
[21:52] spies8mary: I can go check the chats you posted. One moment.
[21:53] spies8jenny: Okies!
[21:53] spies8mary: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=gop&action=display&thread=293
[21:53] spies8mary: Search for "splain"
[21:53] spies8jenny: control f is a wonderful thing
[21:54] spies8jenny: Oh here we go. Rondie was just bringing up what he thought was a strange chat with him, and he happened to come online soon afterwards, so I was just remarking on that.
[21:57] spies8mary: Was there a reason you kind of avoided passing judgment on Alexei in group chat?
[21:57] spies8mary: You seemed to get quiet when his name was brought up, and when people asked questions about him.
[21:58] spies8mary: A couple of times, Tina brought up contradictions in conversations you had with Alexei, and you didn't really comment on them.
[21:58] spies8jenny: I wanted to see how it played out, and like I said before, I wanted to be sure he wasn't going to be like Callahan from a previous game, who just gave up because he got questioned.
[21:59] spies8mary: When he said something strange and Themba said Lexi had admitted to being a spy, what was your immediate thought? Did you agree?
[22:00] spies8jenny: Not really. It just sounded to me like he was just depressed over being the likely first exile of the game.
[22:00] spies8mary: Did it feel like he was giving up?
[22:00] spies8jenny: Yeah.
[22:00] spies8mary: Ok.
[22:00] spies8mary: Cause later you said basically yeah he gave up last night.
[22:01] spies8mary: I just wanted clarification on all that.
[22:01] spies8jenny: It sounded like he was just going "Meh oh well, at least I'll have fun in the viewer's lounge, good luck!"
[22:01] spies8mary: Ok.
[22:01] spies8mary: It seems like you were a little tuned in to Claude's role when you were on the other team.
[22:01] spies8mary: What else did you notice on this side?
[22:02] spies8jenny: Which is partially why I wanted to wait on him, because that sounded familiar to a cit in another game who got exiled after doing the same kind of thing, so I wanted to be sure we weren't starting a rerun.
[22:02] spies8mary: Ok.
[22:02] spies8mary: When I read what you wrote I went and looked up "Callahan".
[22:02] spies8jenny: Spies6 is where you'd want to look for that one.
[22:03] spies8mary: What was similar about Alexei?
[22:03] spies8mary: I saw that Callahan got in a fight with strong Citizens and lost.
[22:03] spies8jenny: Both of them just were rolling over and dying without really putting much of an effort into a defense from what I could see.
[22:03] spies8mary: And the only person who defended him was a Spy. Maybe one Citizen.
[22:05] spies8mary: Sorry, back to my old question:
[22:05] spies8mary: spies8mary: It seems like you were a little tuned in to Claude's role when you were on the other team.
spies8mary: What else did you notice on this side?
[22:06] spies8jenny: I looked a little bit here and there, but I didn't go very much in depth with it. It's hard to ignore a topic labeled "The First Roleclaim of the Game" though, especially right after it's announced that Lucky is being protected from exile.
[22:06] spies8mary: Ok.
[22:06] spies8mary: One last question.
[22:07] spies8mary: What did you think about Savannah, and did you try to change anyone's mind about her?
[22:07] spies8jenny: I actually confused Claude's role with being that exile blocker for a while.
[22:07] spies8jenny: And Savanny I never considered to be a spy.
[22:07] spies8mary: That's what I thought.
[22:07] spies8jenny: Thursday was absolutely lousy for me.
[22:07] spies8jenny: Al I thought was a cit, Savanny I thought was a cit, and Themby was hiding in the background getting votes and I thought SHE was a cit.
[22:07] spies8jenny: Well that's just great.
[22:08] spies8mary: Everyone else has been gabbing about you claiming for Allan but I'm not sure what I'd have done if it was looking close.
[22:08] spies8mary: Who was your big suspect that exile?
[22:08] spies8mary: Sorry, that was another question.
[22:08] spies8mary: Last one, I promise.
[22:09] spies8jenny: Well if it was my choice, I would have put up Zeddy again since I still wanted to find out about him, but there was no way he was going to get any votes that day. I ended up going with Stephi, since I at least had suspicions on her, and I saw Savanny was going with her for the exile. I was hoping we could get a few more votes on Stephi after Al's claim came out. No such luck.
[22:10] spies8jenny: That was really lousy too when it became obvious that Savanny had suddenly become the major bandwagon, because she was one of my favorite people to talk to, and I thought she was a cit as well.
[22:11] spies8mary: She got herself in trouble i guess, unless the Spies somehow sabotaged her.
[22:11] spies8jenny: I honestly have no idea where the heck her case came from. Before that night, I knew that Gabe-Gabe was worried about her since the start of the game, but then suddenly there was actually a wagon forming on her, and I spent half the time trying to figure out where that even came from.
[22:12] spies8jenny: As far as I could tell, she was getting voted because she listed her suspicions.
[22:16] spies8mary: Thanks for being patient with me.
[22:16] spies8jenny: No problem.
[22:17] spies8mary: If you ever have any questions for me, go right ahead.
[22:17] spies8mary: I'm catching up on the group chat now.
[22:17] spies8jenny: Well right now I'm getting so far behind in the group chat it's not even funny so I should probably catch myself up in that.
[22:22] spies8jenny: Really shouldn't have stayed up until 7 am last night.
[22:23] spies8mary: I hope you were doing something fun.
[22:23] spies8mary: Boyfriends or good movies.
[22:24] spies8jenny: I was playing a game on my computer, and I remember beating it and getting to the credits, and then somewhere in the middle of the credits I started sleepwalking or something, because next thing I remember is being in bed.
[22:25] spies8jenny: Probably wasn't a good idea to stay up until 7 am finishing it, when I had work today.
[22:25] spies8mary: I spent most of last night hiding in the closet.
[22:25] spies8jenny: That sounds uncomfortable.
[22:25] spies8mary: Yes.
[22:35] spies8jenny: Ugh, I'm just starting to fall asleep here, I might just have to read up on this in the morning. Which I'd rather not considering tomorrow is exile.
[22:41] spies8jenny: Yaaaays, I'm finally caught up!

[Jenny]

[18:41] spies8nita: Hola Jenny
[18:41] spies8nita: Es good to see you again, si?
[19:12] spies8jenny: Hi Ni-Ni!
[19:13] spies8jenny:
[20:05] spies8nita: I ain't believin that for 1 second
[20:05] spies8jenny: He could just be really stupid.
[20:05] spies8nita: He say he providin info? To the spies es who
[20:05] spies8nita: He no even wait to see if he gonna be a target
[20:06] spies8nita: Says he knew he got nothin to worry bout, the role claim would get him outta jail free
[20:06] spies8nita: Seems like a spy thing, since as a citizen he ain't really givin info in a useful way
[20:06] spies8jenny: Certainly possible. He might just be taking everything overly dramatically and serious too though, especially since he apparently doesn't like the roleplaying in the game.
[20:07] spies8jenny: And thinks everyone else will go the same way.
[20:12] spies8nita: You look at him y Allan
[20:12] spies8nita: See the differences?'
[20:12] spies8nita: One afraid to claim because then he get killed by the spies
[20:12] spies8nita: One claimin for no reason other than to "give the town info" but what info he givin?
[20:12] spies8nita: I think he lyin bout the reason
[20:25] spies8jenny: You've got to be kidding me.
[20:26] spies8nita: Bout what?
[20:26] spies8jenny: And I thought Stephi-kins reasons on Rondie were bad.
[20:26] spies8jenny: How he worded claude's roleclaim?
[20:26] spies8jenny: Really?
[20:27] spies8nita: Si
[20:27] spies8nita: I agre, bad reason
[20:41] spies8nita: You wanna see bad reason? Look what he just say
[20:42] spies8jenny: I noticed.
[20:42] spies8jenny: I just don't even know how to respond to that.
[20:42] spies8jenny: That's just a whole new level of dumb.
[20:44] spies8nita: I wish I could talk to Tina y show her this
[20:48] spies8nita: Rondak say he thinkin bout makin a case against you. Do not tell him I tell you this, si?
[20:48] spies8jenny: Okies.
[20:49] spies8nita: I worried you gonna be a target
[20:49] spies8nita: Cinnamyn, her questions seem to be at you too
[20:52] spies8nita: I misvote last round by the way
[20:52] spies8nita: My reasons be for Savannah but I write down Themba name instead
[20:53] spies8nita: No know how that happen, must have been confused or thinkin bout Themba after writin bout her
[20:53] spies8jenny: Okies, maybe you can tell me then. What in the world was the case even on Savanny anyways. I still don't know where in the world that came from.
[20:55] spies8nita: Savannah, what I see
[20:55] spies8jenny: As far as I could tell it was because she discussed suspects.
[20:55] spies8nita: She panic when votin deadline get close
[20:55] spies8nita: She accuse almost everybody in the game
[20:56] spies8jenny: When, the first exile?
[20:56] spies8nita: When I tell her my points on Alexei she no listen, say she gonna follow up but she never did
[20:56] spies8nita: Si, the first exile
[20:56] spies8nita: I no there the second
[20:57] spies8jenny: It was mostly about Zeddy though, he was making even more ridiculous statements, and the two of us were IM'ing each other going "You're kidding me right?" and she starts trying to point it out to people, and somehow she gets suspected over it.
[20:58] spies8nita: Si, but I no see Zedekiah make big mistakes
[20:58] spies8nita: I see him tryin to explain himself y Savannah sayin see, see, see, that be spylike
[20:58] spies8jenny: I was agreeing with her half the time!
[20:58] spies8jenny: It WAS ridiculous!
[20:59] spies8jenny: I was even cheering her on in private, because I thought it was finally getting across to people!
[20:59] spies8nita: What? That he watchin a movie y playin video games? How that ridiculous?
[20:59] spies8nita: Y he say hq?
[20:59] spies8nita: I think those dumb reasons to suspect someone
[21:02] spies8jenny: Here, before I start getting into it, let me look up the group chats again.
[21:15] spies8jenny: He vanishes for two hours right after the roles were being distributed, he explains it away by saying he couldn't figure out how to turn off AIM, an action which requires maybe bare minimum of knowledge about how to use a computer, while playing a game I know personally, and is not exactly one I would call a casual pick up and play game.

That sounded to me like he was covering up something and being ridiculous about it.

And then a few days later, we're discussing Lexi's case, and Zeddy comes in and makes a comment that is half coherant and has nothing to do with what we're even talking about. Savanny remarks on it, and also comments how she feels he hasn't been doing much of anything yet either, it looks like you commented on it as well for a little bit, Savanny asks about who his suspects are, Zeddy mentions Al, and is asked why. Zeddy says "he don't do squat, but he talks a lot in private" Savanny asks how he knows that Al talks a lot in private if he never sees him talk in the public chat and has yet to see him online, he remarks that he knows because other people have told him he's been on, and he says that he thinks he's only talking to other spies. That gets talked about a little bit, and Zeddy says that Al should at least post in the HQ. Myself, Savanny, Gabe-Gabe, Themby, along with Tina, and Owen a few minutes later all go "Wait what?" all of us instantly thinking he's refering to the Spy HQ.

Hammy comes in and talks about his topic. Tina remarks that Zeddy gave a different response to Gabe-Gabe about his vote then he did to Tina, And then we're pretty much done talking about Zeddy because the exile is starting.
[21:15] spies8jenny: Sorry bout the wall of text.
[21:16] spies8jenny: I just went through the whole thing again, I didn't really see her bring up anyone else at the time before the first exile.
[21:17] spies8nita: she do in private
[21:17] spies8nita: Again I read that y I no see nothin spylike bout Zedekiah
[21:18] spies8nita: So when Savannah talk bout that, I see her pushin a bad case
[21:19] spies8nita: In private she talk bout you, Themba, Dane, Gabriel, Zedekiah, y those the ones I know off the top of my head
[21:19] spies8nita: Never Stephanie o Alexei
[21:20] spies8jenny: Stephi didn't really come up as a subject until after the first exile.
[21:20] spies8nita: Si but durin that round when we talkin bout her, she no say she suspectin her or agreein with the suspicions
[21:20] spies8nita: So I'm seein Savannah not bein suspicious bout my other 2 big suspects
[21:20] spies8nita: Y goin after people I no suspect
[21:20] spies8jenny: You mean in the second episode then, or still during the first one?
[21:20] spies8nita: Also sayin she agree with goin after Alexei voters
[21:20] spies8nita: Second episode
[21:21] spies8jenny: Who were your two then?
[21:21] spies8nita: Alexei y Stephanie
[21:21] spies8jenny: I mean I know I was one, that's why you claimed to me in the first place.
[21:21] spies8nita: In round 1 Alexei
[21:21] spies8nita: En round 2 Stephanie
[21:21] spies8jenny: Wait, i thought you were talking about episode 2 there.
[21:21] spies8nita: I claim to you in between
[21:22] spies8jenny: Okies, I thought you were saying that at one time you had two main suspects.
[21:22] spies8jenny: And she didn't bring up either at that one time.
[21:22] spies8nita: I no know if I gonna vote Stephanie or Savannah en round 2
[21:22] spies8nita: Ended up writin Themba's name by accident, that real stupid
[21:22] spies8nita: I thought Sam make a mistake when I see the vote tally
[21:22] spies8jenny: I knew about her being suspicious of me, we had a talk about that too.
[21:22] spies8nita: Si
[21:23] spies8nita: You askin why Savannah suspicious
[21:23] spies8jenny: I think you were there for it actually.
[21:23] spies8nita: One reason bein, she never suspected Alexei, y another bein in round 2 when I tell her bout Stephanie she never suspect her either
[21:23] spies8nita: Make sense?
[21:24] spies8jenny: When did you two talk in round 2?
[21:24] spies8nita: Savannah y yo? A couple of times. Y some group chats
[21:24] spies8nita: Y you know when I talkin to her some instances cause I tell you she sayin she suspectin you
[21:25] spies8jenny: I'm just looking at a chat we had, and she was telling me she was deciding between myself and Stephi-kins for her vote that night.
[21:25] spies8nita: So she suspect Stephanie? She never said she agree with it
[21:27] spies8jenny: That was around 7:30 or so, about 4 or 5 hours before exile happened.
[21:29] spies8jenny: Well thanks for helping explain it a bit. I'll have to see if it was the same for others I guess, but from I could tell when i saw the case, it was that she talked about her suspicions at one point when asked about it.
[21:29] spies8nita: I sorry she was a citizen
[21:30] spies8nita: You ready to handle this round?
[21:31] spies8jenny: I really didn't want to have to post that roleclaim abotu Al, because I had a feeling it'd just turn into a bandwagon onto Savanny who I also didn't think was a spy, and I had talked with her most about the game, and we got along rather well, bounced ideas off each other well.
[21:31] spies8nita: Y that be what happened
[21:31] spies8nita: Which is why Cinnamyn be questionin you, si?
[21:31] spies8nita: If you think Allan a spy y no Savannah, why you no bring up nobody else?
[21:31] spies8jenny: Yeah she was curious about why i brought up the roleclaim at that point in time.
[21:33] spies8jenny: Like I think I told you before though, I just really hated thursday, because all of a sudden the exile looked to be on either Al, or Savanny, with a 3rd case in the background on Themby. None of which I felt were spies.
[21:33] spies8jenny: And everyone seemed fairly set with their vote when I talked about the exile with them.
[21:33] spies8nita: I agree with you on Themba, that be what I conclude in my post in Zedekiah thread
[21:34] spies8nita: But you knew if Allan claim people would switch
[21:34] spies8nita: I put Savannah out there because I hopin people switch to her, she was suspicious
[21:34] spies8nita: You no put nobody there
[21:34] spies8nita: You leave no option for switchin off Allan
[21:34] spies8nita: Y chica, I on your side
[21:34] spies8jenny: Well what exactly was I going to do, just let a potential town role that had claimed to me get himself exiled, and mention it after he was already dead?
[21:34] spies8nita: I ain't talkin bout the claim
[21:34] spies8nita: I talkin bout thinkin it through
[21:34] spies8nita: I sayin, I thought Allan gonna role claim
[21:35] spies8nita: Y when he do, I hopin votes switch onto Savannah
[21:35] spies8nita: I think about "what gonna happen next?"
[21:35] spies8jenny: And after the claim came out, I tried talking with a few people about going onto Stephi instead since she at least seemed suspicious, and I thought a few people were actually going to go with it, but in the end just about nobody did.
[21:35] spies8nita: You tell me you really suspectin Stephanie?
[21:35] spies8nita: You tell me you need to talk to her more I think
[21:35] spies8jenny: She's more suspicious to me then any of the other three were.
[21:36] spies8nita: Jenny you y I talk mucho y I no know that
[21:36] spies8jenny: If it was my choice, I would have put Zeddy up. But Stephi was the only case that was even remotely out there that I could agree with that had any chance of getting votes.
[21:36] spies8nita: You tellin me Kiara, Owen, Rondak, Stephanie y Zedekiah
[21:36] spies8nita: Cause you no talk to them much
[21:37] spies8nita: If I no even know who you votin for, how anyone else gonna switch to that person?
[21:37] spies8jenny: Rondie I've talked with a good amount, he just doesn't often say much game wise, which is why I brought him up.
[21:37] spies8nita: I talkin strategy now, not defendin what you did
[21:37] spies8jenny: He's actually one of the people I thought would swith to Stephi after the claim came out.
[21:38] spies8nita: My point bein, if you really think Savannah y Allan were inocente, you should have set up a good reason for people to switch to Stephanie. Comprende?
[21:38] spies8nita: Tina y yo would have supported a Stephanie exile y we no even know you hopin for one
[21:38] spies8jenny: Savanny had already been doing that, that's why I was even going with that case. Like I said, if it was up to me I would have said Zeddy.
[21:38] spies8nita: Si, but if Savannah, the alternate to Allan es pushin Stephanie, who gonna listen?
[21:39] spies8nita: Chica what I'm tryin to tell you is you gotta strategize
[21:39] spies8jenny: There were several people that were honestly considering it from when I talked with them.
[21:39] spies8nita: Well if people no switch to Stephanie then you gotta do better next time
[21:39] spies8nita: Here's what I'm seein for this round
[21:40] spies8nita: I'm seein Rondak makin his case on you. I'm seein Cinnamyn settin up reasons for you. I'm seein the spies joinin in
[21:40] spies8nita: Y I'm seein you goin "I don't got a suspect, I need to talk to people more"
[21:40] spies8nita: You see the problem?
[21:41] spies8nita: So you gotta strategize - how are you gonna get people to not suspect you, how you gonna handle them when they make cases against you, y who you gonna vote for?
[21:44] spies8nita: You ain't alone on this, I told you I'm your partner in this y I'll give you help or advice if you ask
[21:47] spies8jenny: Let them bring on a case, I have no problem talking with them about whatever concerns they might have. I don't get why people always act like having a case on themselves is the end of the world, or why some people make a case and then decide they're done for the day.

And it might be my fault for how I might have been wording it, but I ALWAYS want to hear more from people. I don't want a round to go by where everyone just makes up their mind and then sits on their behinds for a few days to see what happens. I'm not always saying I want to hear more from them because I'm not sure about something, I want to hear from them to see if anything new has come up.

I don't care if people suspect me, as long as they are willing to discuss why they have those suspicions and don't just go "Ok well that settles that, see you all in a week!"

As for how I figure out who I'm voting for, I never decide that for sure until it's about time for a decision to be made. I might put up a vote a little early if I think I won't be around for a while, but even then it's never finalized personally until the deadline comes. If something else comes up that proves something or disproves another thing, great, bring it up and we'll see what that means for everything.
[21:48] spies8nita: To your first paragraph: Ain't it better to prevent havin a case on you than to talk bout suspicions once they come up?
[21:48] spies8nita: That way you can do 100% findin spies instead of say 70% findin spies y 30% defense
[21:49] spies8nita: Y everyone can spend more time lookin at everyone else
[21:49] spies8jenny: If there is every anyone that never has a case on them the entire game, there has either been an investigation on them, or people aren't doing their jobs right.
[21:49] spies8nita: I ain't had a case on me this game
[21:49] spies8nita: I no think I'm gonna have one later either
[21:49] spies8nita: Why? Everybody sees me lookin for spies
[21:50] spies8nita: If you do your job right in the first place, no one gonna make a case on you
[21:51] spies8jenny: No, everyone sees that you were one of the first people to start a case that caught a spy. If it turned out Lexi was a cit, I doubt people would be as sure in general.

An investigation being needed might be overkill, but you know what I'm trying to say.
[21:51] spies8nita: No I ain't. I'm disagrein with you here.
[21:52] spies8nita: If this new group of 8 democrats sees you lookin for spies, you think they gonna vote you out fast?
[21:54] spies8jenny: I'm saying I don't care how much people might look like this or that. I want to see actual things they have done one way or the other.

If someone looks like they are spy hunting the whole game that's great, right up until people realize the last 6 people they've gone after haven't been spies. Then people will start looking at you.

If however that same person is spyhunting and has managed to get 4 out of 6 of them correct, they're going to look a bit better.

And even then, that might not mean much. I remember seeing a game even in the spies series that there was one spy who had gone and bussed every single one of his partners (I forget how many of them there were offhand) and tried to use that to get away as a cit when they were the last one still alive.
[21:56] spies8jenny: Will you get suspicious looks right now? I highly doubt it. Does that mean that you won't get any ever? Unless you're killed early, or something comes up that makes it nearly impossible to argue otherwise, i doubt that as well.
[21:56] spies8nita: So how that apply to you? How you gonna avoid bein exiled y lastin?
[21:57] spies8nita: Cause if you a spy, I need you to stay here to stop me from bein imprisoned. Y if you a citizen, you need to help your side by avoidin a misexile
[22:00] spies8jenny: If they honestly have suspicions about something I've done, and unless I play a perfect game, that's probably going to happen at some point or another, then hey, tell me what you find suspicious about what I've done, and I'll tell you why I did such and such.

When spice was talking to me earlier, she told me she was afraid she was coming off as a jerk with all the questions she was asking me about how the last exile went. I told her I didn't mind in the least, since she wasn't being rude about her questions, and they were questions I probably would have asked myself to someone if our positions were reversed.
[22:01] spies8nita: That's good that you ain't mad at her
[22:01] spies8nita: She askin legit questions
[22:01] spies8nita: But that ain't the point. You think you know what you doin though, so I'm gonna say good luck y let's see how things go
[22:05] spies8jenny: I appreciate that you're trying to help

That's just how I see this game really. Stuff happens, you get what information you can about why stuff happened, and you decide if things make sense, and how it fits together. That's why I always try to talk to everyone as soon as they come on. You never know if someone's realized something while they were getting ready for bed, or if someone's acting strangely, or hey, maybe two people are arguing with each other over something.

Find out what you can, put it all together and in the end what makes the most sense.
[22:06] spies8nita: So what you seein for this round, if we both get through imprisonment?
[22:08] spies8jenny: That depends on who gets imprisoned if anybody.

If we, by some miracle, get another doctor save, we can talk to Al and find out if he knows anything about it. If not, we know the doctor at least has another person confirmed, and that there are now three people that can work together.

If someone does get killed, we take what we know about them and fit it into what's going on. Past that, I don't really know what's going to happen yet. Things could easily change depending on who gets killed.
[23:08] spies8jenny: I think you might want to talk with Maggie. She seems to be confused about Stephi-kins being on our team, saying she has no idea what you're refering to then if she's not in the democrats right now.
[23:09] spies8nita: She ask me who my top suspect es
[23:09] spies8nita: I tell her
[23:09] spies8nita: She no ask "on this side"
[23:10] spies8jenny: Apparently she just told Spice that steph was one of her suspects, spice corrects her, and she flips out.
[23:10] spies8nita: She tell Cinnamyn "I suspect Stephanie"?
[23:10] spies8jenny: Well she told Spice that she suspected Spice and Steph.
[23:10] spies8jenny: spies8cinnamyn: (11:03:56 PM) so magalie who do u suspect.?
spies8magalie: (11:04:22 PM) I suspect you steph

[23:12] spies8nita: I laugh at that
[23:12] spies8nita: Ain't trustin her
[23:12] spies8jenny: From what I've been hearing, she isn't exactly the easiest to talk to either.

Monday, June 28, 2010 13:49:46
[13:49] spies8jenny: Hi Ni-Ni.
[13:51] spies8nita: Hola Jenny
[13:51] spies8jenny: How are you?
[13:53] spies8nita: Doin good. Cooled down a little here so I ain't dyin anymore
[13:53] spies8nita: How you doin?
[13:54] spies8jenny: Not very good, had to leave work early since I'm apparently sick.
[13:54] spies8nita: Chica that no es good news
[13:54] spies8nita: Nobody like bein sick
[13:54] spies8jenny: I think it's just a stomach bug thankfully, should be fine tomorrow.
[13:55] spies8jenny: Probably just didn't heat up my lunch well enough.
[13:55] spies8jenny: Not going to let it stop me from checking on spies though.

Just means I might have to get a drink every once in a while for it.
[13:56] spies8nita: Chica I do that even when I no sick
[13:56] spies8jenny: Not going to let something stupid like throwing up at work stop me from playing.
[15:29] spies8jenny: Do I look like I'm still in the room to you? I think the room just kicked me out, but it doesn't look like I'm out of the room.
[15:30] spies8nita: You out
[15:30] spies8nita: We all out
[15:30] spies8jenny: [15:29] spies8democrats: You have been disconnected from chat room !aol://2719:10-4-spies8democrats.
[15:29] spies8jenny: What on earth?
[15:30] spies8jenny: So that wasn't just me then?
[15:30] spies8nita: No, es todo
[15:30] spies8jenny: Alright, well I'll update the group chat topic and then reload it.

Monday, June 28, 2010 15:36:44
[15:36] spies8jenny: The room should work again if you restart AIM.
[15:37] spies8nita: Okay I try that
[18:28] spies8jenny: Just something to remember, we are going to have to watch both sides this time around if we win this challenge, because we're going to have to decide between our own pick and whoever the republicans send up.
[18:29] spies8Nita: Si
[18:29] spies8Nita: I'm hopin to win this one
[18:29] spies8jenny: Me too, it'd be rather helpful
[19:04] spies8jenny: It'd be good if we had more people on though, I see 9 of them and 6 of us.
[19:05] spies8Nita: It not for another 2 hours
[19:05] spies8jenny: I know, but it'd be nice to have some encouragement.
[19:05] spies8Nita: No worries chica everythin gonna be fine
[19:06] spies8jenny: I wonder how it'll work out after imprisonment, if someone will have to sit out or what.
[19:49] spies8jenny: I assume you didn't mean to hit that button?
[19:49] spies8Nita: No I no mean to
[19:49] spies8Nita: I go, I see you later
[19:49] spies8jenny: Have fun!
[19:49] spies8jenny: See you soon okies?
[19:49] spies8Nita: Si
[19:50] spies8jenny: Imprisonment in a few minutes, and if we're both still here, challenge after that!

Tuesday, June 29, 2010 01:30:26
[01:30] spies8Nita: You think things go okay o got ideas for what can be done better?
[01:31] spies8jenny: For the challenge you mean? I think things went better that second time around then in the first one. That stupid unicorn thing just killed us because people kept coming and going and half the time we weren't sure who was doing what.
[01:32] spies8jenny: That added on with the problems of some people, I forget who, putting the whole thing into one picture instead of keeping it broken up, and needing to spend time making that a seperate image, blarg.

Tuesday, June 29, 2010 19:54:16
[19:54] spies8Nita: coordinates para 4 chica?
[19:54] spies8jenny: 4? It's on the top left of the map
[19:54] spies8jenny: see the 82? Look above the compass thing next to it
[19:54] spies8Nita: I ain't been payin attention on how to read the map
[19:54] spies8Nita: So I need you to do it
[19:55] spies8Nita: Lo siento
[19:55] spies8jenny: Then I guess 82 left?
[19:55] spies8jenny: it's weird, 82 is diagonal
[20:05] spies8jenny: Which ones did he mark right?
[20:06] spies8Nita: He no tell us
[20:08] spies8jenny: This is a pain, I think we have several different ways of listing these numbers.
[20:09] spies8Nita: I know
[20:39] spies8jenny: Ok, I give up on making any sense of these coordinates. Let me know if you still need help on finding anything again, or telling you again where 4, 7, and 10 is.
[20:39] spies8Nita: Bien
[20:40] spies8jenny: Because this is killing me. It took about 5 minutes to find the three of them, and 20 minutes to get across where they were with the coordinates.
[20:40] spies8Nita: I know chica, it tough. You do your best
[20:45] spies8Nita: No post this one
[20:46] spies8Nita: Porque
[20:46] spies8Nita: People who get part 1 fast
[20:46] spies8Nita: They may not be new
[20:46] spies8Nita: I no want people to get accusation votes
[20:46] spies8Nita: Tiene sentido? Make sense?
[20:47] spies8jenny: I think it's safe to say about half the people playing in the game are not new, so I don't see how that would narrow it down.
[20:47] spies8jenny: Not to mention it's easy to get those. There are links to the past games on the spies8 site.
[20:47] spies8jenny: That's what I did, loaded up all the other sites, and compared them.
[20:47] spies8Nita: I'm sayin I no think it fair
[20:54] spies8jenny: I understand where you're coming from, and if this was a smaller group to work with, I would probably agree with you. But considering there are 7 games history to go with, which would mean about... 50 to 80 people, plus adding in people that just read up on past games, if they are able to pick someone out from that, they're psychic.
[20:55] spies8Nita: I think you puttin other people at risk for no reason so I think you wrong. But you gonna do what you gonna do, y you already know what I think, so I ain't gonna keep repeatin myself
[20:55] spies8jenny: The other reason I don't see a big deal is that, in every game of spies so far, I think I've only ever heard of accusation votes deciding an exile once.
[20:56] spies8jenny: And that was because they jumped in a chat room under their own AIM name if I remember right.
[20:56] spies8Nita: Ain't bout exilin. Bout imprisonment.
[20:56] spies8Nita: You helpin the spies by puttin others at risk
[20:56] spies8jenny: I thought you were worried about the accusation votes?
[20:56] spies8Nita: No.
[20:56] spies8Nita: I worried that Cinnamyn gonna be imprisoned for obviously bein a past player
[20:56] spies8Nita: Y a good one too
[20:56] spies8Nita: She know what she doin in that challenge
[20:57] spies8Nita: So if you wanna put Cinnamyn at risk y post, y she get imprisoned, I gonna blame you
[20:57] spies8Nita: That all I got to say
[20:57] spies8Nita: Obviously not gonna say that in the public chat
[21:01] spies8jenny: You didn't notice she was a vet before? :\

Seemed obvious to me, but that's getting sidetracked.
[21:02] spies8Nita: I no notice. Why? She ain't goin around talkin bout this y that in past games
[21:03] spies8jenny: Just came across that way to me since I first met her in the group chat.
[21:03] spies8Nita: I no pick up on that. The only person round here who seems to be a past spy player es you, you always talkin bout what happen in previous games
[21:04] spies8jenny: I've never played spies before. I just read up on the past ones.
[21:05] spies8Nita: I'm gonna pay some attention to my husband
[21:05] spies8Nita: See you later
[21:05] spies8jenny: Okies!
[23:12] spies8Nita: I'm also gonna remind you here for 1 second that you a very likely nominee target
[23:12] spies8jenny: I'm aware of that.
[23:12] spies8Nita: Just makin sure
[23:13] spies8jenny: Thankies

But yes, I know if we do my idea I'm very likely to be one of those people that would get brought up, but I still feel like it's worth at least bringing up as a possibility.
[23:43] spies8Nita: So who you tryin to nominate?
[23:44] spies8jenny: Personally, I think I'd end up picking Maggie for now if end up voting someone. You already know the suspicions the two of us have about her right now, and tonight wasn't exactly helping anything in my mind.
[23:46] spies8Nita: The two of us?
[23:46] spies8Nita: You y Allan?
[23:46] spies8jenny: You and me, about what came up with her and Spice?
[23:46] spies8jenny: About her big suspect apparently being Stephi-kins?
[23:47] spies8Nita: Si
[23:48] spies8jenny: Not to mention, everyone on the team that I've talked to have said that she tends to be rarely online, and generally unhelpful the few times she is around.
[23:48] spies8Nita: You see what she say bout the group chat?
[23:48] spies8Nita: In the group chat
[23:48] spies8jenny: What specifically are you refering to?
[23:49] spies8Nita: spies8cinnamyn: (11:10:19 PM)who do u think b a spy.?
spies8magalie: (11:10:41 PM)Nita
spies8cinnamyn: (11:11:05 PM)y.?
spies8magalie: (11:12:16 PM)well I have not only been on a team with her for a day and she came up to me and attacked me with stuff about her team
[23:00] spies8cinnamyn: datz after suspectin' steph
[23:05] spies8cinnamyn: she gave me da transcript of her talkin' wit nita
[23:05] spies8cinnamyn: it dont seem lyke nita attacked her at all
[23:50] spies8jenny: Oh yeah I remember that being brought up. What do you have to say on that, I didn't get to see this transcript they mentioned.
[23:50] spies8Nita: She ask me who I suspect!
[23:50] spies8Nita: So I tell her Stephanie. She ask why. It a pleasant conversation
[23:51] spies8jenny: What about after that, it sounds like Spice was saying that maggie accused you of attacking her a little bit after that.
[23:52] spies8jenny: Since Spice was saying this was after telling her that Stephi was her suspect.
[23:52] spies8Nita: Like I say, ain't no attackin
[23:52] spies8Nita: Rereadin it I think she mean I talk to her too much about the game
[23:52] spies8Nita: Like I throwin too much info at her
[23:52] spies8Nita: Cept we no talk much or long
[23:53] spies8jenny: Too much game talk? I don't get that at all personally, why would you sign up to play a game, and then be surprised when people try to discuss the game with you?
[23:53] spies8Nita: That seem to be the question bout her in general
[00:28] spies8jenny: By the way, I haven't asked in a while, how have your missions been going?
[01:05] spies8Nita: THey been goin okay
[01:05] spies8Nita: I confused as to how they work this round
[01:05] spies8jenny: How so?
[01:05] spies8Nita: I votin for nominees but no the final exile
[01:06] spies8Nita: So there a couple missions that kinda screwy cause of that
[01:06] spies8jenny: Oh hey, I forgot I wanted to ask you, did you ever get confirmation from sam on if the roleclaim had to come from an actual role?
[01:06] spies8Nita: I miss the mission "win a prize"
[01:06] spies8Nita: Si. Allan really have a role.
[01:07] spies8jenny: Well that's good to know. We can't exactly just dump that information on everyone without bringing you up, so we'll have to find another way to prove it to everyone else, but that's good to know for sure.

Because if he was lying about that role after what happened last week, I was going to beat the living daylights out of him.
[01:09] spies8Nita: He no need to prove it. He can't prove his alignment either way with it
[01:09] spies8Nita: He better off if people forget
[01:10] spies8jenny: Honestly I think most people are convinced for now anyways. Still, it's good to know for sure.
[01:10] spies8Nita: Sure. But again, ain't no point in provin it
[01:10] spies8Nita: I no suspect him much anyway
[01:11] spies8jenny: I'm just saying we can't go around saying "Oh yeah Ni-Ni's third party role involving missions confirmed the fact for us."
[01:11] spies8Nita: Si
[01:11] spies8Nita: That no work well for no one
[01:12] spies8jenny: I like having my arms attatched to my torso for example, and you'd probably change that if it ever came out for example.
[01:12] spies8Nita: Si! I laughin chica
[01:14] spies8Nita: I feel like this round no gonna go well for the citizens
[01:14] spies8Nita: But who knows, maybe we do well
[01:14] spies8Nita: Magalie I think es the obvious nominee
[01:14] spies8Nita: I no see how she gonna get out of this one

Wednesday, June 30, 2010 15:10:29
[15:10] spies8jenny: Hi Ni-Ni!
[15:11] spies8nita: Hola Jenny
[15:11] spies8nita: Uno kiwi, it have 117% of daily vitamin c
[15:11] spies8nita: Asombroso
[15:11] spies8jenny: Um... ok?
[15:12] spies8nita: I eatin one now. Ain't gonna get scurvy today.
[15:12] spies8jenny: Oh okies.
[15:13] spies8nita: I think that a good thing
[15:14] spies8jenny: Leaving the game because of pirate's disease would certainly be an indignant way to go.
[15:14] spies8nita: You sayin it.
[15:14] spies8nita: How you tummy feelin?
[15:15] spies8jenny: Well I'm not sick now, so that's good. I got lucky and it was just an overnight thing.
[15:15] spies8jenny: I must have just not heated my lunch well enough or something.
[15:16] spies8nita: Glad to hear you better
[15:16] spies8nita: Y that it ain't nothin like scurvy
[15:20] spies8nita: I'm thinkin Dane miss you
[15:21] spies8jenny: I noticed.
[15:21] spies8nita: Will I be invited to the weddin? Yo amo weddings, I just love em
[15:22] spies8jenny: I think it's a little early for that.
[15:22] spies8nita: So you tryin to say I ain't invited?
[15:23] spies8nita: That hurtin my feelins Jenny
[15:23] spies8jenny: Smart alec.

I mean it's a little early to be making wedding plans.
[15:24] spies8nita: So you afraid to commit
[15:25] spies8jenny: Sure let's go with that.

Anyways, I'm getting a post up in the vote topic quick, so that the Republicans have something to go on, since I can't debate suspicions with them in person.
[15:26] spies8nita: Excelente
[15:44] spies8jenny: Okies, done with that for now.
[15:48] spies8jenny: So what did I miss in the group chat?
[15:48] spies8nita: Talkin bout Tina
[15:48] spies8jenny: Why Tini?
[15:49] spies8nita: Why no? He no know her, it look like she gonna get the power, so we talkin bout her
[15:49] spies8jenny: Just curious what brought her up.
[15:49] spies8jenny: She's not a bad pick for the power I think. They could certainly do worse.
[15:50] spies8nita: He askin bout how Alexei come up y why Tina switch
[15:50] spies8nita: My head seriously hurtin, too much information at once
[15:50] spies8nita: I feel like estoy en a cloud
[15:50] spies8jenny: Probably how Kitty, and Lily felt when they replaced in too.
[15:51] spies8nita: Ah, si.
[16:05] spies8jenny: Well so far it's one vote Owen, but that's from Tini.
[16:27] spies8jenny: I think the Republicans have to decide between the nominees live at exile.
[16:27] spies8jenny: And we just have to get votes in before exile as usual.
[16:28] spies8nita: Bien

Thursday, July 1, 2010 10:59:01
[10:59] spies8jenny: Hi Ni-Ni!
[10:59] spies8nita: Hola Jenny
[10:59] spies8jenny: How are you today?
[11:01] spies8nita: Doin good. Y you?
[11:02] spies8jenny: Slow day at work, so I get to be on for a little while.
[11:03] spies8jenny: Not really anyone else around it seems.
[11:06] spies8jenny: Haven't seen Hammy for a few days, I wonder where he's been.
[11:06] spies8nita: no seen him neither
[11:06] spies8nita: At least he postin
[11:07] spies8jenny: Yeah, but I'd still like to actually see him.
[11:17] spies8jenny: So what do you think so far?
[11:18] spies8nita: I makin my post bout votin no exile
[11:20] spies8jenny: If we didn't have the option to do that though, who would you be considering?
[11:20] spies8nita: Magalie y I sayin that en my post
[11:21] spies8jenny: Just curious if your thoughts had changed at all.
[11:21] spies8nita: Nope, still thinkin the same as before
[11:22] spies8jenny: Okies.

Two other questions I wanted to ask you, that kind of have to do with your third party status.

Is getting a No Exile to happen one of your missions?

And I know you're trying to protect me either way, but do you still think I'm a spy?
[11:23] spies8nita: No exile no es a mission
[11:23] spies8nita: Y I think you a spy
[11:23] spies8nita: I think you no es steppin up because you afraid you slip
[11:24] spies8nita: You thinkin, "Ain't no point en bein proactive because I be a spy"
[11:25] spies8jenny: That's something I've noticed by the way, people seem to think I'm not very open, and I really don't know why. If someone wants to know something from me, just ask me, I'll be glad to help how I can.
[11:25] spies8nita: That ain't proactive. That reactive.
[11:30] spies8jenny: I'd argue about me supposedly not doing anything either. I always talk with people when I can about the game, and what people's thoughts are on it. See if what they're saying makes sense, or if we disagree somewhere. Maybe even find out something new that happened, work my way from there. Which is kind of why I wish we weren't the only two people actually around right now, it's annoying not being able to actually talk with anyone.
[11:31] spies8nita: Jenny, maybe you thinkin you talkin wit people bout the game y their thoughts, but you got a bunch of people all sayin you ain't. So there be a disconnect between how you think you playin the game y how they think you playin the game.
[11:32] spies8jenny: That's what I'm saying, I have no idea where they're getting that idea from, since I don't see it that way at all.
[11:32] spies8nita: Si. So either you gotta change everyone else o you gotta change yourself.
[11:33] spies8nita: You can sit here all day y say "I talkin to people, I presentin my opiniions" but if everyone say you ain't then it ain't gonna matter
[11:34] spies8nita: While I thinkin bout it, if I do get imprisoned I no think it a good idea for you to say I tell you bout my alignment
[11:34] spies8jenny: Sorry, had a phone call there. It's slow here but it's not a standstill yet.
[11:34] spies8jenny: And if you do get imprisoned, I think Sammy would say it.
[11:35] spies8nita: I kinda ask him bout it y I think he gonna say the name of my alignment y that I had missions but I no think he gonna say more
[11:35] spies8nita: You comin out y sayin "Nita tell me this y some of her missions" only gonna cause problems for you
[11:36] spies8jenny: We had a third party last game, and when that person got killed, Sam went into a bit of detail about the Role.
[11:36] spies8nita: Porque I only tell you because you my best guess of who es a spy
[11:36] spies8nita: So I only tell you so I no get imprisoned
[11:36] spies8nita: People ask "Jenny, why she tell you?" - that answer ain't gonna be good for you
[11:37] spies8jenny: I'd answer "Because she thought I was a spy at the time for whatever reason. Thankfully though, I think I was able to convince her to help the cits out anyways over the spies."
[11:38] spies8nita: Cept I ain't sayin to people I trust you
[11:38] spies8nita: I no able to do that because I do suspect you y everyone makin good points bout you
[11:38] spies8jenny: Such as?
[11:38] spies8nita: How can I say I trust you when that kind of stuff bein presented to me by others
[11:38] spies8nita: Like last night I talk with mary y she bring up some stuff
[11:38] spies8nita: Hambone, he tellin me bout you
[11:38] spies8nita: Even Rondak tellin me bout you
[11:39] spies8jenny: I haven't seen either of those two the last few days actually. Hammy and Rondie I mean.
[11:39] spies8nita: I see Hambone 2 days ago
[11:39] spies8nita: Rondak say on Sunday he thinkin of makin a case on you. I tell you at the time I thnk
[11:39] spies8jenny: Besides the challenge of course yes.
[11:40] spies8jenny: Mary and I actually got to have a nice chat last night.
[11:40] spies8nita: I talk to her after that
[11:40] spies8nita: Midnight CST
[11:41] spies8nita: spies8Mary: I went through her posts and group chats and she looks bad surrounding Alexei.
spies8Mary: And she doesn't seem very involved in hunting spies on this side.
spies8Mary: She looked to be avoiding the topic of Alexei.
spies8Mary: She changed the topic a few times.
spies8Mary: Avoided questions about him.
[11:41] spies8jenny: She was rather nice. Which was nice, since she was fairly depressing to talk to during opening night, so it's good to see she's easier to talk to now.

Yeah I had to go to bed by then, since I was dead tired. Stayed up til 7 am then night before and was on about an hour's sleep.
[11:42] spies8jenny: I don't remember avoiding talking about Lexi.
[11:42] spies8jenny: We actually spent several minutes talking about him, and why I wanted to wait a few days for him.
[11:42] spies8nita: spies8Mary: She changed the topic a few times.
spies8Mary: Avoided questions about him.
spies8Nita: Outright change? I no rememberin that but maybe I ain't payin attention to it at the time
spies8Mary: Tina confronted her with direct contradictions and she ignored them.
spies8Mary: All to stay on Zed.
[11:43] spies8jenny: Oh I thought you were talking about in our own chat last night.
[11:43] spies8jenny: When was tini asking me about Lexi?
[11:43] spies8nita: Before exile 1 obviously chica
[11:44] spies8nita: Jenny I no care if you be spy or cit. I hopin you spy. You ain't need to defend yourself wit me
[11:44] spies8jenny: That's a little vague really, I don't remember talking with Tini about Lexi that much. I'll have to ask Mary about where she means next time I see her.
[11:44] spies8nita: Mary gonna ask who tell you
[11:45] spies8nita: If you gonna respond to it I recommend you do it through what Lilith say bout you in republican chat
[11:45] spies8jenny: Why does that matter?
[11:45] spies8nita: because if people suspect you, y they notice I always tellin you stuff, they gonna associate me wit you
[11:46] spies8nita: I feel like I a spy y you my partner already the way I always tryin to sidestep accusin you
[11:46] spies8jenny: That's a good thing though for you if I get exiled, because I'm a cit, and I'd help keep you from suspicion.
[11:46] spies8jenny: It'd help*
[11:46] spies8nita: Jus tell me you a spy
[11:46] spies8nita: that all I want
[11:46] spies8nita: Ay dios
[11:46] spies8jenny: I'm never going to say that, because I'm not.
[11:46] spies8nita: Lo siento chica. esta bien.
[11:46] spies8nita: we good.
[11:47] spies8nita: I sitll no wanna be associated wit you on this one
[11:47] spies8nita: I ain't interested in playin defense
[11:47] spies8jenny: I mean if I do bring up the thing about being open, that actually did come from what Lily was saying in their group chat.
[11:48] spies8jenny: But I really don't remember Tini ever asking me about Lexi in the group chat.
[11:48] spies8nita: spies8stephanie (8:51:25 PM): jenny voted me, owen said he was susp.
spies8owen (8:51:56 PM): Jenny really never brought up suspects other than Zed and then the night before exile you randomly popped up.
spies8stephanie (8:52:13 PM): odd i thought
spies8broderick (8:52:36 PM): be right back
spies8stephanie (8:52:56 PM): i kept feeling like there was some link between sav and jenny?
spies8stephanie (8:53:11 PM): but i never really saw it,
spies8stephanie (8:53:21 PM): maybe just cause they both stuck on zeke
spies8isaac (8:53:27 PM): Jenny wasn't one of the ones that was never here was she?
spies8stephanie (8:53:35 PM): lolol
spies8stephanie (8:53:48 PM): jenny was ALWAYS here
spies8isaac (8:53:54 PM): oh ok...lol
spies8stephanie (8:54:05 PM): but never really said a whole lot
[11:48] spies8jenny: You said she talked with you a few hours after we talked, how much of that chat did she bring up with you?
[11:49] spies8nita: spies8lilith (16:10:3): Jenny and Alexei don't acknowledge eachother very much
spies8lilith (16:11:38): Reading this chat is just gettin me suspscious of Jenny and less suspscious of Zed, lol.

[11:49] spies8nita: spies8lilith (16:25:22): I feel like Tina is almost indirectly getting the vote away from Zed. But then I feel like Dane was trying to get Zed lynched instead of Alexei. I think Jenny and Alexei they way they act towards eachother suggests they may be mafia trying to not notice eachother.
[11:50] spies8jenny: None of that really brings up Tini supposedly asking me things in the group chat during the first round though.
[11:51] spies8nita: She never mention talkin to you
[11:51] spies8nita: Mary never mention
[11:52] spies8jenny: Hmm. She brought it up a little bit after we talked in the group chat I saw. Something you can ask her about yourself then what she thought of it I guess.
[11:53] spies8nita: Why I ask her that? I no care bout her reasons for suspectin you
[11:53] spies8nita: Like I say, you ain't gotta defend yourself to me
[11:53] spies8nita: Everyone else, si. But me no because I said I try to protect you y I say I actually hopin you a spy
[11:54] spies8jenny: I think I should though. You seem to still think I'm a spy, but I would like to actually work with you, and it'd probably be easier for you to trust me if we did talk about this stuff, rather then having you feel like you're sidestepping talking about me all the time.
[11:55] spies8nita: Jenny, wit all the things you doin y not doin in this game, I really no see a reason to no suspect you. You a nice girl y you real friendly, but I got that giant case I wrote y never posted y all those points add up to you bein a spy
[11:55] spies8nita: The only thing I got to say you may be a citizen es that you constantly sayin you ain't a spy when I ask
[11:55] spies8nita: That alone maybe I trust you
[11:56] spies8nita: But the evidence no support that, y I can't tell anyone else that reason, you know?
[11:57] spies8jenny: That's for you to decide really how you want to handle your role. Only reason I ever brought up Al was because he was going to get exiled otherwise, or at least I thought he was going to be, and that wouldn't have helped anything.
[11:57] spies8nita: That I know
[11:58] spies8nita: I know you ain't overthinkin the vote count y goin "Well there be lots of posts sayin people vote Allan but if I sit down y count it ain't as bad as it looks"
[11:58] spies8nita: You actin on instinct
[11:59] spies8jenny: Not to mention only half the team was on anyways, and I figured it would get time to get the word out to everyone as they came online, if at all.
[11:59] spies8nita: Si. I know where you comin from.
[12:02] spies8jenny: I admit I screwed up a little bit with exactly where the votes were going, but with how I interpreted things were going, I don't really see what people expected me to do in that situation. We had 3 people up for voting, none of them I considered spies, the only other case getting anywhere was brought up by one of those three, and as far as I could tell, the top two of those cases had only really gained traction in the last couple hours before the exile. I don't see what people expected me to do to cover Al besides that claim, or what people expected me to bring up on anyone else that would have had everyone change their minds enough from all three of the other cases, considering I didn't have Stephi accidently sending messages to me thinking she was in the spy chat.
[12:03] spies8nita: You ain't tellin me nothin I no already know. Like I said, I understand where you comin from when you claim for Allan.
[12:04] spies8nita: But you mistake bein, if there be 3 people up for votin y you no consider none of them spies, why you no put a fourth case up?
[12:04] spies8nita: My reason es: I suspected Savannah
[12:04] spies8jenny: It just seems like the situation with Al's claim is everyone's main reason for thinking about me for the vote, and I don't see what they expected me to be able to do other then that.
[12:04] spies8nita: I 100% good wit her goin
[12:04] spies8nita: You ain't got a good reason for that
[12:05] spies8nita: I no think that the main reason Jenny
[12:05] spies8jenny: It seems to be whenever people talk to me about it.
[12:05] spies8nita: I think the main reasons be you no offer information, you ain't lookin for spies, you no suggest a 4th exile candidate, y you ain't analyzin
[12:10] spies8jenny: you no offer information

The whole reason Zeddy came up in the first place was because I started asking him about things he said.

you ain't lookin for spies

I've already told you what I think on that.

you no suggest a 4th exile candidate

I did talk to several people about voting Stephi, and I even thought some of them were going to be with me on it. I was surprised to see only 2 people voted her in the end.

you ain't analyzin

I don't even see how that even comes up as a point. I have been analyzing, I just haven't been doing my thinking out loud in the group chat. If you'd like I can make a photo of the deck of cards of the spies cast laid out on an old board game I got at home to keep straight where I think everyone currently lies, along with the copy of the leaderboard I keep attatched to the sun visor in my car so I can look over that while I'm driving.
[12:21] spies8jenny: Looks like you're typing up something big, go ahead and finish that up, I need to get myself some lunch quick. I'll read whatever you've typed out when I get back.
[12:22] spies8nita: No
[12:22] spies8nita: I not
[12:22] spies8nita: I typed my post y posted it
[12:22] spies8nita: Go enjoy your lunch
[12:24] spies8jenny: Okies got it heating up... nothing? Weird, meebo was telling me you were typing something in here for the last few minutes.
[12:24] spies8nita: Nada.

[Jenny]

Sunday, June 27, 2010 13:38:09
[13:38] spies8jenny: Hi Rondie!
[13:38] spies8rondak: Greetings, lass.
[13:53] spies8jenny: So how are you?
[13:54] spies8rondak: Decent.
[13:54] spies8rondak: A bit tired, a little hungover. A few too many ales.
[13:54] spies8jenny: That would do it.
[13:56] spies8rondak: *nods*
[13:56] spies8rondak: And how are you?
[13:57] spies8jenny: I'm doing alright, hoping to meet all the new people.
[13:57] spies8rondak: *nods*
[13:57] spies8rondak: I did not get a chance to talk to many of them on the first day.
[13:57] spies8rondak: Have you been following the Democrats forum at all?
[13:58] spies8jenny: Trying to catch up on it.
[13:59] spies8rondak: *nods*
[13:59] spies8rondak: Are there any noticable suspects yet for you?
[13:59] spies8jenny: Well claude seems weird, but I don't really know where to vote just yet. We have imprisonment first to worry about though.
[13:59] spies8rondak: *nods*
[13:59] spies8rondak: Of course.
[14:00] spies8rondak: Are you worried?
[14:01] spies8jenny: No reason to, if I'm gone, I'm gone. Might as well do what I can, and see what information comes from it.
[14:02] spies8rondak: *nods*

Sunday, June 27, 2010 16:55:03
[16:55] spies8jenny: Actually I still think Zeddy was most suspicious over there, but there was no way he was going to get exiled at the time, so I wasn't going to throw a vote on him just to give him a tally of 1.
[16:55] spies8rondak: *nods*
[16:55] spies8rondak: That is understandable.

Sunday, June 27, 2010 20:21:59
[20:21] spies8jenny: Hi Rondie!
[20:22] spies8jenny: We're talking to claude in the room.
[20:22] spies8rondak: What about?
[20:22] spies8jenny: Right now I think it's about Lucky, with a little bit of his roleclaim and Cammie mixed in.
[20:23] spies8rondak: He roleclaimed?
[20:23] spies8jenny: Yeah, last episode.
[20:24] spies8jenny: It's an easy topic to spot "The First Roleclaim of the Game" thread in the Demo area.
[20:24] spies8rondak: *nods*
[20:24] spies8rondak: Okay.

Sunday, June 27, 2010 20:48:52
[20:48] spies8jenny: And I thought Zeddy was ridiculous. Wow.
[20:49] spies8rondak: *chuckles*
[20:50] spies8jenny: Quick note, it's generally a bad idea to just not talk to someone, because you don't like them.

Especially when it's only the first day.
[20:50] spies8rondak: *nods*
[20:51] spies8jenny: Welcome back to spies I guess.
[20:51] spies8jenny: *sigh*
[20:51] spies8rondak: *chuckles*
[20:51] spies8rondak: Who isn't talking to you?
[20:51] spies8jenny: You didn't see the pubilc chat?
[20:51] spies8jenny: [20:39] spies8nita: Scrollin up you say you think Tina suspicious because she talkin to Cory, y why would anyone wanna talk to Cory?
[20:40] spies8nita: I'm laughin Claude, Cinnamyn right, you silly
[20:41] spies8claude: If you say so.
[20:41] spies8nita: You no think that stupid?
[20:41] spies8claude: Not really.
[20:42] spies8jenny: You're kidding me right?
[20:43] spies8jenny: Please tell me you're joking.
[20:44] spies8claude: You had to be there.