Episode 5 Conversations

[Tina]

What is this? A way to make me post every single conversation? Well it works, even though I am not sure I want my vote back. Have lots of influence over Owen and some over Mary.

spies8chance (6:08:34 PM): hi tina.
spies8tina (6:08:45 PM): Hello.
spies8chance (6:09:05 PM): locked out of the group chat?
spies8tina (6:09:22 PM): Right.
spies8tina (6:09:25 PM): Keep saying timed out.
spies8chance (6:09:33 PM): huh.
spies8chance (6:12:19 PM): did you see the spies picked magalie to get her vote back?
spies8tina (6:12:25 PM): Just did.
spies8chance (6:12:27 PM): that's what's being discussed in the chat right now.
spies8tina (6:12:35 PM): Got told by about three people at once.
spies8chance (6:12:38 PM): hahaha.
spies8tina (6:12:56 PM): I still feel like I am in the clear minority this exile.
spies8chance (6:13:03 PM): minority?
spies8chance (6:13:07 PM): as in, not going to be voted for?
spies8tina (6:13:08 PM): Not a huge fan of top few picks.
spies8chance (6:13:14 PM): ah.
spies8tina (6:13:20 PM): I would love to see Law up.
spies8chance (6:13:24 PM): how is your lawrence case coming along?
spies8tina (6:13:38 PM): I am not sure how much I really have to add except for the interactions between him and Isaac.
spies8tina (6:14:00 PM): Just think multiple spies joined Reps.
spies8tina (6:14:22 PM): Sort of a guttish thing from Isaac getting very upset at "Dems being targeted".
spies8tina (6:15:19 PM): Lean to Law being partner with Isaac over Brod.
spies8tina (6:15:51 PM): Not too sure on Brod being spy, just disagree with him on almost everything.
spies8chance (6:17:20 PM): i wonder about brod. i also wonder about allan.
spies8tina (6:17:54 PM): Allan I do not wonder as much on.
spies8chance (6:19:18 PM): i just think i found a bit of a contradiction to him. maybe it's just allan.
spies8tina (6:20:35 PM): He is crazy it seems.
spies8tina (6:20:41 PM): Also not the smartest.
spies8tina (6:20:59 PM): Tried to get him to use the Claude copy role on me having me "choose" between my top picks.
spies8tina (6:21:08 PM): Apparently decided not to.
spies8chance (6:21:16 PM): why did you want it used on you?
spies8tina (6:21:40 PM): Thought there was a decent chance I was being imprisoned so would either take a limitation out of the game or limit me to picks I wanted either way.
spies8chance (6:22:09 PM): ah.
spies8tina (6:27:01 PM): So who are you nominating?
spies8chance (6:28:11 PM): just posted.
spies8chance (6:28:13 PM): most likely jasmine.
spies8chance (6:34:30 PM): hey tina, are you going to post an actual case on lawrence?
spies8tina (6:34:44 PM): Likely will just tack on to inital one.
spies8chance (6:34:57 PM): okay. as long as there's a thread i can look at.
spies8tina (6:36:25 PM): spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=808
spies8chance (6:36:54 PM): thanks tina.

[Tina]

spies8chance (1:03:59 PM): hi tina.
spies8tina (1:04:10 PM): Hello.
spies8chance (1:04:15 PM): what are you up to?
spies8tina (1:04:42 PM): Trying to figure out Lawrence as much as possible even though I am not able to talk with him.
spies8chance (1:05:13 PM): ah. yeah, i'm a little irritated by that. he's become more of a lurker than magalie.
spies8chance (1:05:26 PM): i'm about to answer cinnamyn's questions as soon as i get caught up.
spies8chance (1:05:35 PM): which reminds me - did you find my answer to your question satisfactory?
spies8tina (1:05:50 PM): Pretty much, it was as expected but clarification was needed.
spies8chance (1:06:20 PM): okay. again, sorry for not answering it earlier. if a question isn't specifically to me i tend to miss it.
spies8chance (1:07:54 PM): good lord, dane yells a lot.
spies8tina (1:08:16 PM): I just let him go, he will tire himself out eventually.
spies8tina (1:08:42 PM): Most fights I will stop. Dane just yells.
spies8chance (1:09:48 PM): so i've noticed.
spies8chance (1:10:01 PM): do you tend to look harder at the people no one else seems to be looking at?
spies8chance (1:10:09 PM): like, to my knowledge, you're the only person looking at lawrence right now.
spies8tina (1:10:20 PM): I am not the only one, there are a few others.
spies8tina (1:10:40 PM): When it is all the same suspects from everyone though, others are good to explore.
spies8chance (1:11:30 PM): i agree with that. which is why i think i'm going to be looking at cinnamyn next.
spies8chance (1:11:42 PM): i'd hate for her to just float by on the force of her personality.
spies8tina (1:11:51 PM): She is another very good outside suspect.
spies8tina (1:16:36 PM): Who are your suspects though?
spies8chance (1:17:32 PM): are you uneasy that she has her vote back?
spies8chance (1:17:40 PM): i meant to hit enter on that a long time ago, darnit.
spies8chance (1:17:41 PM): okay.
spies8chance (1:17:43 PM): my suspectss.
spies8chance (1:17:47 PM): *suspects.
spies8tina (1:17:49 PM): I did not want her with the vote back.
spies8chance (1:17:56 PM): jasmine.
spies8chance (1:18:10 PM): i still think claude has a chance (ha) to be a spy.
spies8chance (1:18:23 PM): rondak, possibly.
spies8tina (1:18:37 PM): Your top two suspects are two of the people Isaac was attacking/being attacked by?
spies8chance (1:18:55 PM): yes.
spies8chance (1:19:23 PM): given that isaac wasn't here to defend himself (or do anything, really) i think there could be bussing there.
spies8chance (1:19:31 PM): do i think claude looks better for the isaac lynch? yes.
spies8tina (1:19:38 PM): They were both on him pre-isaac leaving.
spies8chance (1:19:48 PM): but do i think claude is capable of bussing a fellow spy, and do i think he looks suspicious for earlier actions? yes.
spies8chance (1:20:27 PM): i also think cinnamyn could be a spy, and i don't really know what to think about broderick.
spies8chance (1:28:46 PM): reasons for suspecting jasmine -
spies8chance (1:29:05 PM): a lot of it is her absolute switch on me that took forever and a day to happen.
spies8chance (1:29:15 PM): first she thought i was a spy for 'swapping my suspects'.
spies8chance (1:29:48 PM): then for about three episodes, awohali asks her to give examples. she either says she's going to and doesn't, or changes the subject, or something else each time he asks.
spies8chance (1:30:12 PM): finally, once the merge happened, she admitted she didn't actually have anything on me and that her suspicion was just vibes.
spies8chance (1:30:21 PM): also, i don't like the timing of her switch to themba in exile 3.
spies8chance (1:30:36 PM): it's not the vote i question - self-preservation is a null tell as far as i'm concernece.
spies8chance (1:30:39 PM): ...concerned.
spies8chance (1:30:48 PM): but she says she switched to themba about half an hour before exile.
spies8chance (1:30:59 PM): i see no reason she couldn't have posted that somewhere, or told someone.

[Tina]

spies8broderick (6:14:22 PM): Hi. Jenny said to talk with you if we were in the group chat
spies8tina (6:14:35 PM): Right, group chat not working for me.
spies8broderick (6:16:19 PM): that sucks
spies8tina (6:16:27 PM): You are telling me.
spies8tina (6:16:38 PM): It is just this account too.
spies8tina (6:16:47 PM): Made a junk one and it can get in group chats fine.
spies8broderick (6:18:09 PM): Tried logging out and back in?
spies8tina (6:18:19 PM): Did that, rebooted internet, rebooted AIM.
spies8tina (6:18:24 PM): Rebooted computer.
spies8tina (6:18:28 PM): Just is not working for me.
spies8broderick (6:28:58 PM): Must be an AIM glitch or something
spies8tina (6:29:14 PM): I think it has to be.
spies8tina (6:29:34 PM): If it doen't fix itself by later tonight/tomorrow I will just try something else.
spies8broderick (6:30:31 PM): meebo.com might work. I think you can have it log your chats
spies8broderick (6:30:37 PM): Not absolute sure on it
spies8tina (6:30:42 PM): That is what I will be trying I think.
spies8tina (6:30:55 PM): Never used it though, and these messangers are not the easiest to learn for me.
spies8broderick (6:33:33 PM): the interface is kinda straightforward
spies8tina (6:38:33 PM): Where do you stand on Law right now?
spies8broderick (6:39:37 PM): I think he should show up
spies8broderick (6:43:30 PM): On alignment not sure.All the information about him is in the past, nothing new.
spies8tina (6:43:57 PM): You can tack on Isaac-Law interactions, few as they were.
spies8tina (6:44:17 PM): Like Isaac getting very upset at me thinking Law was his best suspect.
spies8broderick (6:45:04 PM): The one interaction about Issac-Lawrence that sticks out to me. Is Isaac and Jasmine asking Lawrence to make a case on Isaac
spies8tina (6:45:23 PM): Well he did "Lawernece Investiagtes" him.
spies8tina (6:45:31 PM): Just came up with a weak spy stance.
spies8tina (6:46:06 PM): Summary-That's pretty much the book on Isaac as far as I can tell. He does seem to be focused on Jasmine at the moment, and her on him. Likely not spies together, unless they're trying to distance themselves. Which is more likely? I'm on the fence about this one, but leaning more spy.
spies8broderick (6:52:21 PM): Shouldn't he of thought of it more as a trio Isaac/Jasmine/Themba
spies8tina (6:53:14 PM): I think he said "Themba-spy only if Isaac-spy".
spies8tina (6:55:22 PM): Question there is, was Isaac sacrafice worth it to him.
spies8tina (6:55:31 PM): He made a few moves against him, nothing strong.
spies8tina (6:55:50 PM): If Isaac was exiled before Themba though, Themba had no living chance.
spies8broderick (6:56:37 PM): Im curious why he didn't vote for Isaac. He had Isaac/Jasmine relationship and Isaac/Themba. Wouldn't knowing Isaac give him info on the alignments of jJasmine and Themba?
spies8broderick (6:56:45 PM): Yeah she really wouldn't of
spies8tina (6:57:47 PM): Maybe Isaac was viewed as expendable?
spies8tina (6:57:59 PM): Law did vote Magalie though over Themba on revote.
spies8broderick (6:58:15 PM): I was just looking at that
spies8tina (6:58:31 PM): Magalie had apparently been a secondary pick of his for a long time.
spies8tina (6:58:44 PM): Almost thinking Law or Magalie at this point.
spies8tina (6:58:48 PM): Although again both may work.
spies8tina (6:59:07 PM): Law says he is not sure on Magalie due to emotion, votes her over Themba, then doesn't vote her over Steph.
spies8tina (6:59:10 PM): *shrug*
spies8tina (6:59:24 PM): I would like to see a Law or Magalie flip this exile, preferably Law.
spies8tina (6:59:31 PM): Chance I just am not too sure on.
spies8tina (6:59:49 PM): Sort of like a less citty Steph to me.
spies8tina (6:59:55 PM): Gut just telling me no.
spies8broderick (7:00:27 PM): Huh?
spies8tina (7:00:38 PM): Gut is telling me Chance isn't spy.
spies8tina (7:00:42 PM): Not as much as Steph.
spies8tina (7:01:00 PM): Enough to make me want to leave him on the backburner though.
spies8broderick (7:01:06 PM): You gut is louder about steph being a cit?
spies8tina (7:01:18 PM): Steph I just keep having as gut cit.
spies8tina (7:01:31 PM): Occasionally there are reservations, but for some reason I always end up there.
spies8tina (7:01:36 PM): I do need to talk with Owen about that though.
spies8tina (7:01:53 PM): Keep wondering if both of us keeping saying "yeah gut cit" to eachother snowballs that read.
spies8broderick (7:02:14 PM): lol
spies8broderick (7:02:27 PM): Could be. Another person agreeing confirms what your thinking
spies8tina (7:02:49 PM): She just says some really odd things where I think, only cit can say that.
spies8broderick (7:02:50 PM): Less likely to rethink or question it, unless the agreeance is done in a scummy-butterup way
spies8tina (7:03:15 PM): Like how she says that she would have voted Zek if she was on E1.
spies8broderick (7:03:43 PM): I thought she said she would've switched to Alexei and then switched to Zedekiah
spies8tina (7:03:52 PM): Right, but still ended on Zek.
spies8tina (7:03:55 PM): Odd to say that.
spies8tina (7:04:22 PM): I am not sure a spy would say "I would have voted on rival wagon to spy if I could have".
spies8tina (7:04:48 PM): WFIOM, but just feels that way.
spies8tina (7:05:05 PM): Gut thing is a bit why I have Law as a pick too for was Isaac kept saying.
spies8tina (7:05:14 PM): "Why are you only paying attention to new-reps".
spies8tina (7:05:18 PM): Again and again.
spies8tina (7:05:32 PM): Just made me think "Would a lone spy say that?"
spies8broderick (7:07:22 PM): I didnt understand that fully about Isaac.
spies8broderick (7:07:33 PM): Was never sure who he talked to in reference to the post he made
spies8broderick (7:08:03 PM): there was already talk by people about the origReps focusing on the new Reps. He could of expanded on that. But he never talked to me about it until after.
spies8tina (7:08:51 PM): Well, as I said back then, almost all old-rep leads got swaped.
spies8tina (7:08:55 PM): It was an odd comment though.
spies8tina (7:09:09 PM): Felt that it ment if he was spy he brought one with him.
spies8tina (7:09:20 PM): Which at this point would be either yourself or Law to me.
spies8tina (7:09:48 PM): Just think most of my thoughts against you are that we apparently disagree on everything.
spies8broderick (7:11:02 PM): lol. I thought some of it was an early gut read?

[Tina]

spies8cory (5:00:16 PM): Lol. Internet troubles?
spies8tina (5:00:27 PM): Group chat isn't working.
spies8cory (5:00:33 PM): Want an invite?
spies8tina (5:00:50 PM): Got a few before and it isn't working.
spies8cory (5:00:54 PM): Hmm
spies8tina (5:01:00 PM): Keeps saying "timed out".
spies8cory (5:01:02 PM): Is it crashing, or just not coming?
spies8tina (5:01:34 PM): Everything else works fine.
spies8cory (5:01:46 PM): Can you join any other chat rooms?
spies8tina (5:02:11 PM): Just tried a random one and it won't let me in either.
spies8cory (5:02:37 PM): Hrm
spies8cory (5:03:06 PM): And I take it you've tried restarting AIM. Maybe try a computer reboot?
spies8cory (5:03:21 PM): If that doesn't work, maybe reboot your router.
spies8tina (5:03:53 PM): I have rebooted AIM and disconnected/connected from internet.
spies8tina (5:03:59 PM): Going to try computer reboot now.
spies8cory (5:18:07 PM): A shitty alternative, but you may be able to get into the chat rooms if you use Meebo
spies8cory (6:06:43 PM): Meebo did not work?
spies8cory (6:06:48 PM): Might be worth a shot
spies8tina (6:07:10 PM): Thinking I might give it a try, although all of those things are difficult to learn for me.
spies8cory (6:07:40 PM): Yeah, it's annoying
spies8cory (6:07:44 PM): I'm not sure what might be causing that issue
spies8cory (6:07:53 PM): What was the exact error message again? I can try looking it up
spies8tina (6:08:02 PM): Invite timed out.
spies8tina (6:08:21 PM): It is just this, I made a different AIM account to see if it was the program andit worked fine.
spies8tina (6:08:35 PM): So this account is corrupted or something.
spies8cory (6:08:39 PM): HMmm
spies8cory (6:08:47 PM): You might ask Sam if you can create a secondary account until it is resolved
spies8cory (6:08:55 PM): He will probably allow you to make spies8Tina2 or something similar
spies8tina (6:09:11 PM): I talked to him and he said it normally resolves itself.
spies8cory (6:09:16 PM): Ah
spies8tina (6:16:15 PM): So you are in consideration of Law too?
spies8cory (6:16:51 PM): Yep
spies8cory (6:17:02 PM): Though it would be nice if he would actually get online
spies8tina (6:17:05 PM): Nice to hear there is a slow pickup of that wagon.
spies8cory (6:17:16 PM): I think several people like the idea
spies8cory (6:17:24 PM): Owen, I talked to him about it last night
spies8tina (6:17:26 PM): Then there are people way against it.
spies8cory (6:17:29 PM): And I think Mary likes it
spies8tina (6:17:39 PM): I can see Owen voting him, although he will vote Magalie over him.
spies8cory (6:17:53 PM): Maybe. I could probably talk him out of it
spies8tina (6:18:08 PM): I will try to talk him into it later.
spies8cory (6:18:15 PM): Chance, ugh
spies8cory (6:18:17 PM): I'm torn on him
spies8cory (6:18:33 PM): Every time I suspect him he does something to make me doubt myself
spies8tina (6:18:42 PM): I have to agree there.
spies8cory (6:18:46 PM): I think int erms of concrete evidence there is more against Lawrence, though
spies8tina (6:18:54 PM): There is.
spies8tina (6:19:05 PM): I made a bigger case then I thought I would be able to back on E3.
spies8cory (6:19:06 PM): Both Isaac dropping the ball after calling the points against him "the best I've seen"
spies8cory (6:19:13 PM): And Lawrence failing to produce the case he promised against Isaac
spies8cory (6:19:16 PM): The link goes both ways, there
spies8tina (6:19:24 PM): Well he did "investigate" him to slight spy.
spies8tina (6:19:33 PM): Not on hardcore reasons though.
spies8cory (6:19:44 PM): Hm, so he didn't totally drop the ball
spies8cory (6:19:51 PM): I take it some of your suspicion goes back to the case you made, then?
spies8tina (6:19:51 PM): Main thing I think in Laws favor is pointing out a possible slip from Isaac.
spies8tina (6:20:06 PM): Decent ammount does.
spies8cory (6:22:42 PM): I'll have to go reread it then
spies8cory (6:22:46 PM): I really wish he'd log on though
spies8tina (6:23:03 PM): He apparently has been away a lot recently, but there was a time period where he was back.
spies8tina (6:23:13 PM): Think all he did there was vote Steph for "previous reasons".
spies8cory (6:24:16 PM): Ugh
spies8cory (6:24:21 PM): He didn't do much on the Democrats either
spies8tina (6:38:58 PM): Was there suspicion of him over there?
spies8cory (6:40:54 PM): Not really
spies8cory (6:40:59 PM): If there was, I don't recall it
spies8tina (6:48:01 PM): Lack of people mentioning Magalie again is just wierd.
spies8cory (6:49:33 PM): Did you see she got her vote back?
spies8tina (6:49:37 PM): Yes.
spies8tina (6:49:56 PM): Still just concerned at the ammount of attention she got followed up by nothing.
spies8tina (6:50:07 PM): Not even sure if that is a tell is the odd part.
spies8tina (6:50:13 PM): I can see it as one fairly easily.
spies8tina (6:50:23 PM): At the same time, a few vote moves were expected.
spies8cory (6:50:27 PM): I'm really not sure what to think of her anymore
spies8tina (6:50:43 PM): I think Magalie spy is a decent point to Cinn spy.
spies8cory (6:50:54 PM): I hate the thought of wasting an entire exile on her if she flips Citizen, because I'm not sure who it would speak poorly towards
spies8cory (6:51:03 PM): And while she has done a lot of shady shit
spies8cory (6:51:13 PM): I can't help but feel it may be because she's just plain dumbwitted
spies8cory (6:51:16 PM): Maybe that's a cop out
spies8tina (6:51:21 PM): She also played bad to "not get imprisoned".
spies8cory (6:51:22 PM): I think she definitely needs to goe ventually
spies8cory (6:51:27 PM): Really?
spies8cory (6:51:29 PM): She said that?
spies8tina (6:51:31 PM): Yes.
spies8tina (6:51:57 PM):
spies8magalie (12:03:33 AM): the whole time I was in this game I wanted to look like a spy to ward off the imprisonments so now my strategy is coming back to bite me in the ass

spies8cory (6:52:53 PM): Interesting
spies8cory (6:53:04 PM): If she is being roleplayed by someone intelligent, they need a damn medal
spies8cory (6:53:07 PM): And they are also probably a Spy
spies8cory (6:53:12 PM): Because Magalie is not helping us win
spies8tina (6:53:43 PM): I think someone who has played before but is a weak player.
spies8tina (6:53:55 PM): She just, ugh.
spies8tina (6:53:56 PM): Not sure.
spies8tina (6:54:09 PM): I would like her to be a spy because it validates some of my Cinn-spy suspicions.
spies8tina (6:54:25 PM): Thinking part of my reason for wanting Magalie gone is that though.
spies8tina (6:54:36 PM): It isn't a bad exile, but I do like Law one better.
spies8tina (6:54:51 PM): If it came down to Chance or Magalie though, I start to choose Magalie.
spies8cory (6:55:47 PM): Cinn gives me a bad feeling
spies8cory (6:55:54 PM): She is far more capable than thsi
spies8tina (6:56:17 PM): Not as sure on that part, but I think she is off quite a bit.
spies8cory (6:56:27 PM): At first I thought she might be laying low
spies8tina (6:56:30 PM): Magalie vote then not coming back to it was wierd.
spies8cory (6:56:31 PM): but it's episode five now
spies8tina (6:56:40 PM): She latched on Jenny there.
spies8tina (6:56:52 PM): Still has Magalie as a second suspect.
spies8tina (6:57:17 PM): Also was trying to do a little convincing of me to Jenny over Isaac, while agreing with my points on Isaac.

[Tina]

spies8claude (6:07:58 PM): Can't chat, eh?
spies8tina (6:08:42 PM): It is not letting me in chat.
spies8claude (6:08:48 PM): Awwww.
spies8tina (6:08:59 PM): I know.
spies8claude (6:10:06 PM): My group chat log says I just invited you
spies8tina (6:10:24 PM): I hit accept. Just nothing happens then it says invite timed out.
spies8claude (6:10:43 PM): Says you rejected it..weird.
spies8claude (6:10:46 PM): I'd just tell Sam.
spies8claude (6:10:53 PM): I'll try to keep you up to date on what we're talking about
spies8claude (6:11:00 PM): right now we're talking about the Spies choosing to give Magalie her vote back
spies8tina (6:11:03 PM): I did. He says it happens at times and resolves itself usually.
spies8claude (6:11:43 PM): Weird.
spies8tina (6:11:47 PM): Odd enough pick.
spies8claude (6:12:00 PM): I think it makes sense.
spies8tina (6:12:05 PM): Makes sense though from spy standpoint, throw up someone that is likely a nom.
spies8claude (6:12:09 PM): Yeah.
spies8tina (6:28:19 PM): Who are you thinking of apart from Chance?
spies8claude (6:28:29 PM): Kiara and Rondak.
spies8tina (6:29:58 PM): Boy Rondak is back to being everyone's second pick.
spies8tina (6:30:12 PM): He was like that on Republicans before getting transfered to Dems.
spies8claude (6:30:26 PM): Oh?
spies8tina (6:31:07 PM): He had quite a few mentioning him.
spies8tina (6:31:33 PM): Just mostly for doing very little.
spies8claude (6:31:43 PM): Yeah.
spies8tina (6:31:47 PM): Take it just more of that when he got switched?
spies8claude (6:32:00 PM): I'm not sure I've ever talked to him individually
spies8claude (6:32:21 PM): Nor do I actually remember him being in group chat(I'm sure he was at some point, but like..I'm around alot, and really don't remember seeing him)
spies8tina (6:32:30 PM): I spoke less to him then most of the dems before the merge.
spies8tina (6:33:55 PM): He seems to stick to inital ideas though a bit.
spies8claude (6:34:06 PM): What do you mean
spies8tina (6:34:22 PM): He was saying "If Alexei is a spy that is points to Zek-spy".
spies8tina (6:34:31 PM): I think he followed up on that a bit E2.
spies8claude (6:34:41 PM): Ahhhh.
spies8claude (6:34:56 PM): What relationship was there b etween Alexei and Zed anyway? I've heard that a bit now, but never see Zed around
spies8tina (6:35:21 PM): Alexei got called out while pressuring Zek in group chat by a few of us.
spies8tina (6:35:36 PM): He was calling Zek a spy, which changed after a conversation with him or something.
spies8tina (6:35:51 PM): From there on out Zek was cit to Alexei, and neither voted for the other.
spies8tina (6:36:56 PM): Wrote it off as Zek cit early on.
spies8tina (6:37:11 PM): Occasionally secondguess it, although still lean that way.
spies8tina (6:37:28 PM): Can see Zek-spy being a reason Alexei tripped over himself that much though.
spies8claude (6:40:39 PM): hmmm.
spies8claude (6:42:29 PM): you have to wonder why Zed wouldn't be more suspicious of someone making a bad case on him.
spies8claude (6:42:44 PM): But Alexei doesn't seem like he was particularly capable of bussing someone either.
spies8tina (6:43:17 PM): I do not think Alexei was a bad player. Just stumbled a bit on the side with a large group of louder players who all saw it.
spies8tina (6:43:32 PM): Not a pro, but people seem to make him out to be weaker then he was.
spies8claude (6:43:34 PM): Hmmm, okay.

[Tina]

spies8tina (5:42:48 PM): Hah.
spies8owen (5:43:00 PM): !!!!!!
spies8owen (5:43:02 PM): !!!!!!
spies8tina (5:44:07 PM): Question is what implications does this have.
spies8tina (5:44:22 PM): Hambone thought she was doctor. Cinn I "told" she had a role.
spies8owen (5:44:39 PM): I'm not even thinking about that right this second.
spies8owen (5:44:45 PM): I'm just happy you're still here.
spies8tina (5:45:00 PM): Same here.
spies8tina (5:51:30 PM): Almost think this is slight points to Dane-cit.
spies8tina (5:53:41 PM): Question is do we spread rumors about Lil being the doctor now.
spies8owen (5:58:56 PM): I just got
spies8owen (5:58:59 PM): A messaeg.
spies8owen (5:59:03 PM): Message*
spies8owen (5:59:05 PM): It's the spy messenger.
spies8tina (5:59:14 PM): What is it this time?
spies8owen (5:59:23 PM): I'm gonna ask Sam
spies8owen (5:59:24 PM): if I can c/p
spies8owen (6:01:13 PM): hi owen it's me again, you were supposed to pretend like gabe was the dr ~! allan passed the test and you failed he is pissed at you now and thinks you could be a spy but idk dont really think soz. we know about L and her friend and the exile protecter too thanks to nitts. she says isaac had a role but she doesn't know what. im out of words. good luck
spies8owen (6:01:15 PM): LMFAO
spies8owen (6:01:21 PM): Isn't Nita away ALL WEEK?
spies8tina (6:02:13 PM): "im out of words. good luck "
spies8tina (6:02:19 PM): Waste six on that?
spies8owen (6:02:22 PM): LMAO
spies8tina (6:03:30 PM): Already have Law in as my vote/nom.
spies8owen (6:03:35 PM): This is SUCH bullshit.
spies8owen (6:03:39 PM): The message.
spies8tina (6:03:48 PM): It's bad.
spies8owen (6:03:59 PM): Think I should post in chat?
spies8tina (6:04:04 PM): Not sure.
spies8owen (6:04:07 PM): Same.
spies8tina (6:04:19 PM): I don't see the benifit of it.
spies8owen (6:04:20 PM): I wanna gauge reactions, but at the same time, some of these people might buy this crap.
spies8owen (6:05:40 PM): 48 hours to respond.
spies8owen (6:05:48 PM): I'm gonna send some varitation of "LMAO"
spies8tina (6:06:01 PM): You should string them along.
spies8tina (6:06:28 PM): Or do something along the lines of "Prove you are Savannah by telling me something only she would know".
spies8owen (6:06:36 PM): Or tell them Lilith wasn't the doctor.
spies8owen (6:06:41 PM):
spies8tina (6:06:44 PM): Nah.
spies8tina (6:06:51 PM): That would be helping them.
spies8owen (6:06:56 PM): not if we tried to slip it
spies8owen (6:06:57 PM): on Zed.
spies8tina (6:07:03 PM): True.
spies8tina (6:07:43 PM): Obviously not Savannah though.
spies8tina (6:07:52 PM): "Nitts?" Really?
spies8owen (6:07:59 PM): Nitts!
spies8tina (6:08:27 PM): 4KB of rep chat and no one said Nitts, ever.
spies8tina (6:08:41 PM): Such bull.
spies8owen (6:12:35 PM): This could definitely be Cin...
spies8owen (6:12:46 PM): "Know about L and her role"
spies8owen (6:13:15 PM): L = lilith. You hinted at it to Cin.
spies8tina (6:13:24 PM):
spies8tina (8:31:14 PM): Lil is crazy but citizen.
spies8tina (8:31:28 PM): Do not see her being spy.
spies8cinnamyn (8:31:31 PM): y tho.?!? i still dont get y she got immunity eitha
spies8tina (8:31:56 PM): There are reasons for it.
spies8tina (8:32:01 PM): Hard to really explain.
spies8cinnamyn (8:32:19 PM): ok if itz sumthin' lyke dat i wont pry harder

spies8tina (6:22:09 PM): Also I think Kiara was the one who said it, Isaac might have been the vote obscurer.
spies8tina (6:22:16 PM): That makes quite a bit of sense.
spies8tina (6:22:27 PM): If he was going, may as well use it.
spies8owen (6:24:06 PM): How would he know he was going?
spies8owen (6:24:13 PM): I really don't think he was around.
spies8tina (6:24:26 PM): Maybe since he was not around Sam let others use it for him. Not sure.
spies8owen (6:24:34 PM): Ahh, perhaps.
spies8tina (6:24:59 PM): No point in hurting a faction due to a death in the family more then they are already going to be hurt.
spies8owen (6:25:04 PM): The spy alignment blocker died first last time.
spies8owen (6:25:11 PM): Spies got to use it after he was dead.
spies8owen (6:25:18 PM): So I guess they'd be able to use it if he was alive.
spies8tina (6:26:31 PM): Might be an interesting exile.
spies8tina (6:26:49 PM): Really wonder about Magalie and Law right now.
spies8owen (6:29:06 PM): (7:44:59 PM) spies8claude: If there are 5-6 dead Spies and Magalie is still around(which she will be), I'd be okay with lynching her.
spies8owen (6:29:09 PM): Found that skimming the chat.
spies8owen (6:29:11 PM): Don't like that.
spies8tina (6:29:34 PM): It is a bit odd.
spies8owen went away at 6:36:19 PM

[Tina]

spies8gertrude (5:18:51 PM): Hey there, Tina.
spies8tina (5:19:05 PM): Hello.
spies8gertrude (5:19:56 PM): How are you today?
spies8tina (5:20:11 PM): Annoyed that AIM is not letting me in group chat.
spies8gertrude (5:20:30 PM): Would you like me to try inviting you, or is Jenny on that?
spies8tina (5:20:46 PM): I have been having people invite me for a while.
spies8tina (5:20:49 PM): It just is not working.
spies8gertrude (5:21:23 PM): Have you tried meebo.com ?
spies8tina (5:22:26 PM): Will just try and see if it wears off before trying new things.
spies8tina (5:22:34 PM): This took me long enough to learn as is.
spies8gertrude (5:24:00 PM): Got it.
spies8gertrude (5:30:56 PM): Well, when you're not busy, I'd like to ask a few questions.
spies8tina (5:31:17 PM): Well, just waiting around right now so its as good as time as any.
spies8gertrude (5:31:38 PM): Mmm, ok.
spies8gertrude (5:32:26 PM): Was there something else you were going to post? I recall you saying you had 16k of characters written down.
spies8gertrude (5:32:47 PM): I haven't checked, but I don't think the Magalie thread is 16k.
spies8tina (5:32:49 PM): I had quite a bit on outside suspects.
spies8gertrude (5:33:02 PM): Oh, ok. Do you plan on posting it?
spies8tina (5:33:07 PM): Not on people I wanted immediately nominated, but people that I was not comfortable with.
spies8tina (5:33:13 PM): I do not plan on posting it anytime soon.
spies8tina (5:33:20 PM): They are more thoughts and ramblings.
spies8gertrude (5:33:40 PM): Got it, ok.
spies8tina (5:33:42 PM): I would like to just let them keep acting without knowing that I am watching them.
spies8gertrude (5:34:10 PM): So I will not ask who, then, ha.
spies8tina (5:34:10 PM): Just did not want the information to disappear if I did.
spies8gertrude (5:34:49 PM): Did or died*?
spies8gertrude (5:34:57 PM): Oh.
spies8tina (5:35:00 PM): Well, both.
spies8gertrude (5:35:04 PM): Never mind, got it.
spies8gertrude (5:37:17 PM): K, another question. When formulating a case on someone, is there a specific layout or system of formatting you follow that helps organize your thoughts?
spies8tina (5:37:49 PM): I just start writing. If something is out of place I fix it, but there is no format.
spies8gertrude (5:38:21 PM): Oh, ok.
spies8gertrude (5:39:35 PM): Alright...
spies8tina (5:40:14 PM): What are your thoughts on the top suspects right now?
spies8tina (5:40:25 PM): We have most people just saying "Change and Magalie obv-spy".
spies8gertrude (5:40:43 PM): Chance*, ha.
spies8gertrude (5:40:48 PM): My main suspect is Rondak.
spies8tina (5:42:05 PM): So what do you think on the bigger two?
spies8tina (5:42:20 PM): Not that I really am against having some extra Rondak suspicion here.
spies8gertrude (5:42:35 PM): Wow, I am bad at answering your questions the first time.
spies8gertrude (5:42:42 PM): I just reread it. Sorry.
spies8tina (5:42:53 PM): Most of my questions are open ended either way.
spies8tina (5:43:08 PM): Lets people talk about what they want to, better idea of where they are at that way.
spies8gertrude (5:43:29 PM): Got it. That makes sense.
spies8gertrude (5:43:52 PM): I don't think Chance is a Spy, and I think I'm one of the few who doesn't.
spies8tina (5:44:10 PM): Well, I have enough doubts there to make me pause as well.
spies8tina (5:44:38 PM): I think he continues to be stubborn, not as sure on his alignment though.
spies8gertrude (5:44:50 PM): One second. My family has turned the television on very loud, I'm going to move.
spies8gertrude (5:46:06 PM): Alright, back.
spies8gertrude (5:46:21 PM): By stubborn, do you mean about Claude?
spies8tina (5:46:30 PM): And Jasmine.
spies8tina (5:46:46 PM): He appeared more interested in her than Claude.
spies8gertrude (5:46:57 PM): When?
spies8tina (5:47:06 PM): Earlier today.
spies8gertrude (5:47:10 PM): Ah.
spies8gertrude (5:47:29 PM): That makes sense, because from what I read, his opinion on Claude has changed since the last Exile.
spies8tina (5:48:08 PM): I just have a few hangups over him being spy. Some are WFIOMy, but they still show up.
spies8tina (5:48:20 PM): Actually about all of them are WFIOMy.
spies8gertrude (5:49:28 PM): This is going to sound horrible coming from an English teacher.
spies8gertrude (5:49:39 PM): But I don't understand that first sentence. Could you reword it?
spies8tina (5:50:04 PM): There are a few things that make me think he really may not be a spy.
spies8gertrude (5:50:08 PM): Are the WIFOM reasons that he IS a Spy or isn't.
spies8gertrude (5:50:12 PM): Ah, ok.
spies8tina (5:50:16 PM): That he is not.
spies8gertrude (5:50:40 PM): Care to share?
spies8gertrude (5:50:56 PM): Also I've been told that Spies players tend to ignore WIFOM.
spies8tina (5:51:03 PM): His case on Jenny based on Gabe being the doctor.
spies8tina (5:51:26 PM): That is a bigger one to me.
spies8tina (5:51:41 PM): Spies would know that Gabe isn't the doctor in that case.
spies8gertrude (5:51:42 PM): Most people think he is a Spy because of that.
spies8tina (5:51:48 PM): Really>
spies8tina (5:51:52 PM): I just am odd I guess.
spies8gertrude (5:51:59 PM): I seem to get that impression.
spies8gertrude (5:52:05 PM): Except for Jenny.
spies8tina (5:52:23 PM): Seems like it would have been better for spies to not make a case that would force people to think a doctor was around.
spies8gertrude (5:52:43 PM): I agree.
spies8tina (5:53:00 PM): If town thinks something false, why force truth to surface to push someone over the edge that is in trouble already.
spies8tina (5:53:14 PM): I can see if it was "can only be one of Isaac and Jenny" but it was not.
spies8tina (5:53:22 PM): Those two have had no connection, this enitre game.
spies8gertrude (5:54:11 PM): Mmm.
spies8gertrude (5:54:27 PM): Who do you see me connected to?
spies8tina (5:54:37 PM): Not too many.
spies8tina (5:54:53 PM): Sort of an inverse thing to Brod based on theories.
spies8gertrude (5:55:00 PM): I think most people see me as connected to Chance.
spies8tina (5:55:19 PM): Well, I don't, but I haven't seen you two together much.
spies8tina (5:56:01 PM): I almost just think Chance is being so stupid it has to be town just not willing to listen to reason.
spies8tina (5:56:40 PM): If you ignore his Claude-Jasmine thing, I sort of like his next few though.
spies8tina (5:56:45 PM): Could be in part due to that.
spies8tina (5:58:03 PM): One I still keep going back to is Law who I initally wrote off after his response to pressure.
spies8tina (5:59:09 PM): Think this is going to be some combo of Chance-Magalie-[Jenny/Law/Rondak] this time through.
spies8tina (5:59:26 PM): All different exiles.
spies8tina (5:59:59 PM): Magalie is the oddest. At this point to me it is basically an informational exile
spies8gertrude (6:00:37 PM): Hmm.
spies8gertrude (6:00:46 PM): I agree that Magalie is odd.
spies8gertrude (6:01:47 PM): I would definitely argue for a Rondak Exile, in that case.
spies8gertrude (6:02:02 PM): Followed by Lawrence, and then Magalie.
spies8gertrude (6:08:52 PM): [20:08] spies8gertrude: Magalie has her vote.
[20:08] spies8gertrude: Due to the Spies.
spies8gertrude (6:10:33 PM): Does it or does it not look like the Spies want Chance to be Exiled?