Chats: Stephanie or Zed
Jun 29, 2010 23:38:06 GMT -6
Post by Lilith on Jun 29, 2010 23:38:06 GMT -6
spies8stephanie is available (11:17:25 PM)
spies8lilith (11:17:25 PM): Would you be cool with socializing so I can get a better read on you? XD
spies8stephanie (11:17:36 PM): of course
spies8lilith (11:17:54 PM): (I feel like nobody approaches me and I can't get reads on anyone, lol, so I'm awkwardly asking people to talk to me one-on-one, lol)
spies8stephanie (11:17:56 PM): sry i haven't meant to ignore you
spies8stephanie (11:18:12 PM): i actually did talk to old lil
spies8lilith (11:18:29 PM): No it's ok, everyone does it (lol, j/k)... it's just as a replacement I feel the need to socialize because there's so much to catch up on and I want to atleast be able to talk about what yall talk about
spies8lilith (11:19:32 PM): What was your reaction to Savaanah turning up a citizen?
spies8stephanie (11:20:09 PM): ack
spies8stephanie (11:20:12 PM): not good
spies8stephanie (11:20:21 PM): of course
spies8stephanie (11:20:46 PM): but i still think that she practically did herself in
spies8lilith (11:21:07 PM): Were you surprised? Why was she voted for btw?
spies8stephanie (11:21:32 PM): i voted for her for a lot of little things
spies8stephanie (11:21:49 PM): she seemed to be stuck on zeke
spies8stephanie (11:22:04 PM): her susp. ep 1 were zeke, dane, and gabe
spies8stephanie (11:22:30 PM): gabe and i were talking about it and he thought her suspects were odd
spies8stephanie (11:22:56 PM): and i said e1 had suspected zeke
spies8stephanie (11:23:11 PM): but her gabe and dane suspicions i thought had come from me
spies8stephanie is available (11:31:23 PM)
spies8stephanie is available (12:53:37 AM)
spies8lilith (11:24:58 PM): hmmm
spies8stephanie (11:25:32 PM): and i think the final straw was her not decided her final vote until she got jenny's opinion of me
spies8lilith (11:27:11 PM): I'll be honest, a comment you said yesterday made me fishy of you so I kinda just wanted to talk to you some more, so I have like my interoggation face on, lol.
spies8lilith (11:27:31 PM): I feel like HOW you say things and the way you respond will give me a better read on you.
spies8stephanie is available (11:30:05 PM)
spies8stephanie is available (11:37:37 PM)
spies8stephanie (11:27:48 PM): i obv say fishy stuff all the time
spies8lilith (11:27:58 PM): Like I don't feel like a mafia can fake the same sincerity that a town can, so if I ask you questions I can get a better feel instead of using one comment .
spies8lilith (11:28:17 PM): And I feel by telling you what I'm looking for, if you're mafia, it'll make you sweat more and be less sincere, lol.
spies8stephanie is available (11:29:27 PM)
spies8lilith (11:30:11 PM): I am actually afraid to tell you about what you said that made me suspiscious of you, cuz then it reveals my other suspcion, and if both of you ARE mafia I will be dead soon, LOL. But I will tell you eventually if I do get a good read on you. It's not something you can defend agains't. As a spy or citizen, if you tried to explain your reasons, it wouldn't matter because it doesn't have to do with the reasons (well, kinda but not really) just the words said. But we can come back to that later if you want. Right now I'm only basing my read on how on how you interact with me .
spies8stephanie (11:30:33 PM): ok
spies8stephanie is available (11:30:46 PM)
spies8lilith (11:31:06 PM): So like when Savaanah turned up town, what were your thoughts? Just ack not good? lol
spies8stephanie is available (11:31:07 PM)
spies8stephanie (11:32:47 PM): i don't know what to tell you
spies8stephanie (11:32:55 PM): my initial thoughts were ack
spies8stephanie (11:33:34 PM): and i did have that whole thing one night with gabe where we pondered whether the flip was correct
spies8stephanie (11:33:51 PM): cause we were both convinced she was spy
spies8stephanie (11:34:03 PM): but i am sorry i ever brought that up
spies8stephanie (11:34:12 PM): cause i don't think sam would do that
spies8stephanie (11:34:27 PM): i was think out loud and caused a red herring
spies8lilith (11:34:44 PM): Did you bring it up or him?
spies8lilith (11:34:54 PM): Although I don't really think that'd make a difference, nevermind, lol.
spies8lilith (11:35:04 PM):
spies8lilith (11:35:09 PM): So scratch that question XD.
spies8stephanie (11:35:13 PM): i did, and i'm sorry i did
spies8stephanie is available (11:36:05 PM)
spies8lilith (11:38:35 PM): Why are you sorry you did?
spies8stephanie (11:38:54 PM): well, luckily i hasn't turned into a big issue
spies8stephanie (11:39:07 PM): but the night i brought it up i thought it might
spies8stephanie (11:39:18 PM): and i think it's a total red herring
spies8stephanie (11:39:59 PM): i am mostly just mad at savannah
spies8stephanie (11:40:12 PM): she should have claimed
spies8lilith (11:40:25 PM): Claimed? Was she something important?
spies8stephanie (11:40:37 PM): some sort of messenger
spies8stephanie (11:40:42 PM): could send messages
spies8stephanie (11:41:00 PM): do i need to look?
spies8lilith (11:43:06 PM):
spies8lilith (11:43:08 PM): no it's ok
spies8lilith (11:43:15 PM): i just didn't know she was a role
spies8stephanie (11:43:56 PM): can't find it anyway
spies8lilith (11:44:04 PM): It's cool, not important.
spies8stephanie is available (11:48:23 PM)
spies8lilith (11:48:41 PM): What questions do you have for me as a newish player?
spies8stephanie (11:49:25 PM): so what are you looking at now?
spies8lilith (11:49:41 PM): lol
spies8lilith (11:49:42 PM): What do you mean?
spies8lilith (11:49:48 PM): O
spies8stephanie (11:49:49 PM): how on earth are you getting your feet on the ground?
spies8lilith (11:49:50 PM): that is your question
spies8stephanie (11:50:00 PM): does anyone look susp to you?
spies8lilith (11:50:04 PM): Well
spies8stephanie (11:50:04 PM): besides me i mean
spies8lilith (11:50:24 PM): After trying to talk to people about the past, I realized it'd be too difficult to catch up on everything.
spies8lilith (11:50:58 PM): So one think for me is to try to play here and now (but of course, it involves bringing up past situations, I'm not really interested in the past situations, just how the person presents their information and how they talk about it to be honest).
spies8lilith (11:52:02 PM): I'm moreso looking at how people say things rather than what they say. I feel mafia can't fake the sincerety that townpeople do. I can't remember if I've told you this or not, I'm telling everyone this part of what I'm looking at because I feel it'll make the mafia even more nervous and careful of what they are saying to me because they know I'll be watching, lol.
spies8stephanie (11:52:41 PM): huh, ok, i guess if that works for you
spies8lilith (11:53:02 PM): You were in my top 2 suspects to be honest, but yours was based off of someone else moreso than your behavior. Now you are leaning back towards unsure (where most people are in my mind, lol, I keep changing my mind on people... going back and forth).
spies8lilith (11:53:11 PM): What do you mean "if that works for me"?
spies8stephanie (11:53:21 PM): i have this horrible feeling that one of the people who looks sincere to me
spies8stephanie (11:53:30 PM): is going to turn out to be a spy
spies8stephanie (11:54:20 PM): i guess i am saying i don't trust my "sincere"ometer
spies8stephanie (11:54:26 PM): as much as you do
spies8lilith (11:54:43 PM): O, I know what you're saying
spies8stephanie (11:54:44 PM): i've had it happen before...
spies8lilith (11:55:06 PM): My first online game, I said "ok, i think these three people are spies, and I'm pretty sure the last spy is someone in my circle of trust"
spies8lilith (11:55:24 PM): but i had no idea who, and i got out before i could find out
spies8stephanie is available (11:55:28 PM)
spies8lilith (11:55:32 PM): that was long ago though
spies8lilith (11:55:46 PM): and mafia games weren't like they were then, lol, now there is too much logic
spies8lilith (11:56:26 PM): in that first one though, i had the fate of knowing who the cop was and them and me working together to pick out the mafia, not really me going "I know it's those three investigate them" ... just having general suspscions and the idea that the last one was someone we trusted, lol
spies8lilith (11:56:28 PM): so i know the feeling
spies8stephanie (12:00:05 AM): did i ask you about larry yet?
spies8stephanie (12:00:20 AM): he's my most susp this round
spies8stephanie is available (12:04:50 AM)
spies8lilith (12:00:35 AM): I haven't talked to him yet.
spies8stephanie (12:00:38 AM): opinions?
spies8lilith (12:00:47 AM): I'm a replacement, in case i didn't mention that, I keep forgetting to tell people that.
spies8stephanie is available (12:03:56 AM)
spies8stephanie (12:01:13 AM): lol, and i haven't seen him that much and hardly talked to him
spies8stephanie (12:01:24 AM): but he just stunk as spy to me
spies8lilith (12:01:29 AM): I haven't seen or heard from Larry to be honest . I feel like I've only analyzed half the people on this team, when in reality there could be 2 or less mafia on our team and they could be the ones staying low .
spies8lilith (12:01:40 AM): I am assuming he was from Lilith's original team?
spies8stephanie (12:01:50 AM): yes
spies8stephanie (12:02:44 AM): brod, jas, isaac, larry and you were dems
spies8lilith (12:03:35 AM): o, kk
spies8stephanie is available (12:03:41 AM)
spies8lilith (12:04:02 AM): I decided I'm just going to tell you my other main suspect since other people are talking about it anyways.
spies8lilith (12:04:33 AM): The whole Zed comment about HQ slipup, and that Sav (a KNOWN innocent, suspected him) and that when I talked to him, he didn't act like a townie (the feeling thing), makes me think he is a spy.
spies8stephanie is available (12:04:39 AM)
spies8stephanie (12:06:10 AM): yeah i think it's possible that either zeke or dane is a spy
spies8stephanie (12:06:14 AM): but i don't think both
spies8lilith (12:06:15 AM): You said something along the lines of "I feel like Zed will be the person from last season who everone suspected and he lasted awhile" ... and to me I felt like you were trying to plant a seed in our heads to LET him be someone we suspect but not vote him out.
spies8stephanie (12:06:37 AM): hmm no i didn't say that
spies8lilith (12:06:43 AM): But, after talking to you, I don't really suspect you as much. Some of the things you say give me the feeling you are town.
spies8lilith (12:06:53 AM): You said something along those lines .
spies8stephanie (12:07:08 AM): rly?
spies8stephanie (12:07:22 AM): i doesn't sound like me
spies8lilith (12:09:47 AM): Lol, I guess I'll look it up, I just thought it was weird.
spies8stephanie (12:10:09 AM): certainly if it was last season, it wasn't me
spies8lilith (12:10:26 AM): Unless someone else said it, but I don't think I was mistaken (I really doubt I am, but there is always the chance, I didn't write it down, just saw the comment and thought it was odd and thought of you as odd for saying it ).
spies8stephanie is available (12:40:49 AM)
spies8stephanie (12:41:30 AM): lil, i started out looking for bussers on the alex wagon
spies8stephanie (12:41:45 AM): i thought that the most likely place for a spy vote
spies8stephanie (12:42:08 AM): and got into a disagreement with nita about it
spies8lilith (12:42:28 AM): ?
spies8lilith (12:42:34 AM): that spies would vote Alexei?
spies8lilith (12:42:49 AM): If spies are smart (which atleast some HAVE to be) they will go after eachother, or pretend to anyways.
spies8stephanie (12:42:56 AM): yes she said it was "the dumbest thing she ever heard"
spies8stephanie (12:43:06 AM): which just made me mad
spies8lilith (12:43:38 AM): On hearing about Nita, the way everyone liked her and trusted her, it made me suspcious of her, however, thinking about the doctor, it does seem likely she was the saved one, and thus I no longer thing that.
spies8stephanie (12:43:53 AM): i think nita is cit
spies8lilith (12:43:58 AM): Altohugh I do still think that someone people like an talks a lot to everyone (Tina, Jenny, i don't know all the names, LOL) will be a mafia.
spies8stephanie (12:44:04 AM): she really just irked me
spies8lilith (12:44:13 AM): But only one or two, not a majority, lol.
spies8stephanie (12:44:39 AM): and she still thinks i'm susp for looking for bussers
spies8lilith (12:44:58 AM): Really?
spies8lilith (12:45:01 AM): hmmm
spies8stephanie (12:45:03 AM): yep
spies8lilith (12:45:07 AM): I mean
spies8stephanie (12:45:59 AM): the chat after exile, i said i was looking for bussers -- and i was rly looking at rondak and hambone
spies8stephanie (12:46:30 AM): but owen was very adamant that it was not a bussing situation
spies8stephanie (12:46:38 AM): and then i began to suspect him
spies8lilith (12:47:02 AM): I do look at people and how they are accusing people (cuz mafia will probably try to point out something a citizen does on accident) so when I first heard of the HQ thing I wanted to know who A) pointed it out and B) who made the slip up. Cuz it would seem like something that a spy would call out (lol, i am being hypocritical right now kinda, cuz it's something I did, but i didn't call him out until after speaking to him and hearing hos he responds, although telling you this probably isn't good cuz i know u trust him for now, or atleast i think u do, so as someone that trusts him, you might tell him this and it'll help him somehow ).
spies8lilith (12:47:13 AM):
spies8stephanie (12:48:32 AM): i was mia that whole exile (fathers day) but i think i would have switched my vote to zeke
spies8stephanie (12:48:36 AM): had i been here
spies8stephanie is available (12:49:29 AM)
spies8lilith (12:53:42 AM): Just to comment on what you just said - I do that all the time, throwing suspcions on alot of people- but I do it to see their reaction.
spies8lilith (12:53:58 AM): I was about to post that in thread, but I didn't want to give any spies the idea to relay that to him. Did you ask why he did that?
spies8lilith (12:54:11 AM): If he didn't give that reason or have a good reason for doing so, then yes, I would suspect him.
spies8lilith (12:54:16 AM): Talking about Larry I think
spies8lilith (12:54:20 AM): or whoever you said that about, lol.
spies8lilith (12:54:22 AM): Just an idea.
spies8lilith (12:54:37 AM): Cuz that's something I do in person games, accuse lots of people (and then read their reactions to being accused, lol).
spies8stephanie is available (12:54:42 AM)
spies8lilith (12:55:23 AM): But I often renig my accusations (like with you, after talking to you, I am leaning towards slightly citizen). I have like a radar, wher emost people are in the middle, you are barely leaning towards citizen , but that's more than most, lol.
spies8stephanie (12:55:49 AM): when nita and i got into that night about the bussers,
spies8stephanie (12:55:59 AM): i said i was susp of rondak and said why
spies8stephanie (12:56:11 AM): and then with owen protesting so much
spies8stephanie (12:56:16 AM): i also accused him
spies8stephanie (12:56:46 AM): i certainly believe in bringing susp out in the open, but it's gotten me in trouble
spies8stephanie (12:57:49 AM): cause then i ended up voting savannah
spies8lilith (12:57:54 AM): I feel hesitant about bringing openly accusing people, cuz after I do so I often change my mind and then people look at me as stupid... LOL.
spies8stephanie (12:58:06 AM): yeah exactly
spies8lilith (12:58:08 AM): But it does get more reactions and I feel I am more confident after gauging HOW people react.
spies8lilith (12:58:12 AM): But then nobody BELIEVES me.
spies8stephanie (12:58:19 AM): exactly
spies8lilith (12:58:26 AM): That's my weakness, when I do settle on a CONFIDENT belief, people view me as flakey.
spies8stephanie (12:58:42 AM): so with rondak, i tried to just present the facts
spies8stephanie (12:58:54 AM): and say this is what i found susp
spies8stephanie (12:59:17 AM): and not accuse him of being spy, but just bring forward what i found susp
spies8stephanie (12:59:39 AM): particularly when it's info no one else has seen
spies8stephanie is available (1:09:51 AM)
spies8lilith (1:13:57 AM): O, I just found that thread, LOL
spies8stephanie (1:14:21 AM): wow lil i'm impressed
spies8lilith (1:14:26 AM):
spies8lilith (1:14:29 AM): you're so mean
spies8lilith (1:14:32 AM): but i'll forgive you
spies8lilith (1:14:32 AM): lol
spies8stephanie (1:14:39 AM): i think its torture to go thro those chat logs
spies8stephanie (1:14:59 AM): i don't think i could do it
spies8lilith (1:15:28 AM): I haven't yet, just skimming to see how people respond, ill do chat logs later when i have free time with no distractions, LOL
spies8lilith (1:15:30 AM): i am lazy, haha
spies8stephanie is available (1:28:06 AM)
spies8stephanie (1:28:06 AM): reboot?
spies8lilith (1:28:13 AM): yeah =/
spies8lilith (1:28:26 AM): this happened yesterday, but then Tina was the only one on so it didn't really matter
spies8lilith (1:28:27 AM): grrrr
spies8lilith (1:28:27 AM): lol
spies8stephanie (1:28:38 AM): firewall?
spies8lilith (1:28:47 AM): what do u mean?
spies8stephanie (1:29:28 AM): the time i couldn't get into chat room, i set my firewall security lower and then was ok
spies8lilith (1:29:38 AM): really?
spies8lilith (1:29:45 AM): let me try that then, lol
spies8lilith (1:29:46 AM): thanks ^_^
spies8lilith (1:30:36 AM): it's not working
spies8lilith (1:30:47 AM): it's not letting me into any chats either (i did a test , lol)
spies8stephanie is available (1:30:53 AM)
spies8lilith (1:30:59 AM): im changing my IE firewall though, so i might not be doing what you dud, LOL
spies8lilith (1:31:11 AM): other people inviting doesn't work either
spies8stephanie (1:31:13 AM): yeah other issues too
spies8lilith (1:31:14 AM): thank you though
spies8lilith (1:31:35 AM): im goin to finish reading this thread then post convos then reboot, ill be back in eventually >_< lol
spies8stephanie (1:31:55 AM): good luck
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spies8zedekiah is available (12:25:49 AM)
spies8lilith (12:25:49 AM): What was your reaction to Savaanah turning up innocent?
spies8zedekiah (12:26:29 AM): I was suprised, but even I was havin my doubts after our last few convos
spies8lilith (12:26:57 AM): Why did you originally think she was a spy?
spies8zedekiah (12:28:36 AM): well there was a thing 'bout how I thought she lied about talkin' t' me, but she cleared it up as a miscomunication
spies8zedekiah (12:28:55 AM): I reeceived suspect logs from gabe around that time
spies8zedekiah (12:29:01 AM): concernin sav
spies8zedekiah (12:29:35 AM): an' i posted these notes on her day two Savannah
1. Goes back and forth between friendly and very defensive, it seems ‘bit scummy to me, but I might be biased here
2. Completely shifted suspicion away from Alexei, never seemed to seriously question him being town
3. Revived the bandwagon on me the day of Alexei’s lynch, some controversy early on about her willingness to lynch inactives
spies8zedekiah is available (12:56:05 AM)
spies8zedekiah (1:09:25 AM): it's nice t' hear a fresh take on all this old info, so do you have a vote set yet?
spies8lilith (1:09:46 AM): a vote set ?
spies8lilith (1:09:48 AM): O
spies8lilith (1:09:52 AM): On who I want to vote?
spies8zedekiah (1:09:55 AM): yes
spies8lilith (1:09:58 AM): No idea, rofl.
spies8lilith (1:10:05 AM): I am very unsure on a lot of things .
spies8zedekiah (1:11:16 AM): just a warnin, but if you don't vote for someone (or atleast "no lynch") you automatically get three votes against you on exile day
spies8zedekiah (1:11:34 AM): also I think there some penalty fer not using yer confessional....
spies8lilith (1:11:38 AM): Okie dokie, lol.
spies8lilith (1:11:48 AM): Thanks for telling me .
spies8lilith (1:11:53 AM): (I know about the confessional )
spies8lilith (1:12:13 AM): Although Lilith didn't use it at all episode 1 and still got to vote no exile, although i think she was excused for something, lol.
spies8zedekiah (1:12:37 AM): it's already taken a dem's life....
spies8lilith (1:12:44 AM): It did?
spies8zedekiah (1:12:50 AM): that's why these things got t' be desisive
spies8lilith (1:14:07 AM): desisive?
spies8zedekiah (1:14:13 AM): camilla, the vote was tied day one
spies8lilith (1:14:14 AM): when are votes due? Thurs I am assumign? lol
spies8zedekiah (1:14:27 AM): if she voted fer anyone she may have been saved
spies8zedekiah (1:14:42 AM): tomorrow at uhhh
spies8zedekiah (1:14:45 AM): let me check
spies8zedekiah (1:15:06 AM): Thursday 10:00 PM CDT
spies8zedekiah (1:15:18 AM): oh wait...
spies8zedekiah (1:15:23 AM): not tommorrow I guess
spies8lilith (1:15:37 AM): lol
spies8zedekiah is available (1:24:21 AM)
spies8lilith (11:17:25 PM): Would you be cool with socializing so I can get a better read on you? XD
spies8stephanie (11:17:36 PM): of course
spies8lilith (11:17:54 PM): (I feel like nobody approaches me and I can't get reads on anyone, lol, so I'm awkwardly asking people to talk to me one-on-one, lol)
spies8stephanie (11:17:56 PM): sry i haven't meant to ignore you
spies8stephanie (11:18:12 PM): i actually did talk to old lil
spies8lilith (11:18:29 PM): No it's ok, everyone does it (lol, j/k)... it's just as a replacement I feel the need to socialize because there's so much to catch up on and I want to atleast be able to talk about what yall talk about
spies8lilith (11:19:32 PM): What was your reaction to Savaanah turning up a citizen?
spies8stephanie (11:20:09 PM): ack
spies8stephanie (11:20:12 PM): not good
spies8stephanie (11:20:21 PM): of course
spies8stephanie (11:20:46 PM): but i still think that she practically did herself in
spies8lilith (11:21:07 PM): Were you surprised? Why was she voted for btw?
spies8stephanie (11:21:32 PM): i voted for her for a lot of little things
spies8stephanie (11:21:49 PM): she seemed to be stuck on zeke
spies8stephanie (11:22:04 PM): her susp. ep 1 were zeke, dane, and gabe
spies8stephanie (11:22:30 PM): gabe and i were talking about it and he thought her suspects were odd
spies8stephanie (11:22:56 PM): and i said e1 had suspected zeke
spies8stephanie (11:23:11 PM): but her gabe and dane suspicions i thought had come from me
spies8stephanie is available (11:31:23 PM)
spies8stephanie is available (12:53:37 AM)
spies8lilith (11:24:58 PM): hmmm
spies8stephanie (11:25:32 PM): and i think the final straw was her not decided her final vote until she got jenny's opinion of me
spies8lilith (11:27:11 PM): I'll be honest, a comment you said yesterday made me fishy of you so I kinda just wanted to talk to you some more, so I have like my interoggation face on, lol.
spies8lilith (11:27:31 PM): I feel like HOW you say things and the way you respond will give me a better read on you.
spies8stephanie is available (11:30:05 PM)
spies8stephanie is available (11:37:37 PM)
spies8stephanie (11:27:48 PM): i obv say fishy stuff all the time
spies8lilith (11:27:58 PM): Like I don't feel like a mafia can fake the same sincerity that a town can, so if I ask you questions I can get a better feel instead of using one comment .
spies8lilith (11:28:17 PM): And I feel by telling you what I'm looking for, if you're mafia, it'll make you sweat more and be less sincere, lol.
spies8stephanie is available (11:29:27 PM)
spies8lilith (11:30:11 PM): I am actually afraid to tell you about what you said that made me suspiscious of you, cuz then it reveals my other suspcion, and if both of you ARE mafia I will be dead soon, LOL. But I will tell you eventually if I do get a good read on you. It's not something you can defend agains't. As a spy or citizen, if you tried to explain your reasons, it wouldn't matter because it doesn't have to do with the reasons (well, kinda but not really) just the words said. But we can come back to that later if you want. Right now I'm only basing my read on how on how you interact with me .
spies8stephanie (11:30:33 PM): ok
spies8stephanie is available (11:30:46 PM)
spies8lilith (11:31:06 PM): So like when Savaanah turned up town, what were your thoughts? Just ack not good? lol
spies8stephanie is available (11:31:07 PM)
spies8stephanie (11:32:47 PM): i don't know what to tell you
spies8stephanie (11:32:55 PM): my initial thoughts were ack
spies8stephanie (11:33:34 PM): and i did have that whole thing one night with gabe where we pondered whether the flip was correct
spies8stephanie (11:33:51 PM): cause we were both convinced she was spy
spies8stephanie (11:34:03 PM): but i am sorry i ever brought that up
spies8stephanie (11:34:12 PM): cause i don't think sam would do that
spies8stephanie (11:34:27 PM): i was think out loud and caused a red herring
spies8lilith (11:34:44 PM): Did you bring it up or him?
spies8lilith (11:34:54 PM): Although I don't really think that'd make a difference, nevermind, lol.
spies8lilith (11:35:04 PM):
spies8lilith (11:35:09 PM): So scratch that question XD.
spies8stephanie (11:35:13 PM): i did, and i'm sorry i did
spies8stephanie is available (11:36:05 PM)
spies8lilith (11:38:35 PM): Why are you sorry you did?
spies8stephanie (11:38:54 PM): well, luckily i hasn't turned into a big issue
spies8stephanie (11:39:07 PM): but the night i brought it up i thought it might
spies8stephanie (11:39:18 PM): and i think it's a total red herring
spies8stephanie (11:39:59 PM): i am mostly just mad at savannah
spies8stephanie (11:40:12 PM): she should have claimed
spies8lilith (11:40:25 PM): Claimed? Was she something important?
spies8stephanie (11:40:37 PM): some sort of messenger
spies8stephanie (11:40:42 PM): could send messages
spies8stephanie (11:41:00 PM): do i need to look?
spies8lilith (11:43:06 PM):
spies8lilith (11:43:08 PM): no it's ok
spies8lilith (11:43:15 PM): i just didn't know she was a role
spies8stephanie (11:43:56 PM): can't find it anyway
spies8lilith (11:44:04 PM): It's cool, not important.
spies8stephanie is available (11:48:23 PM)
spies8lilith (11:48:41 PM): What questions do you have for me as a newish player?
spies8stephanie (11:49:25 PM): so what are you looking at now?
spies8lilith (11:49:41 PM): lol
spies8lilith (11:49:42 PM): What do you mean?
spies8lilith (11:49:48 PM): O
spies8stephanie (11:49:49 PM): how on earth are you getting your feet on the ground?
spies8lilith (11:49:50 PM): that is your question
spies8stephanie (11:50:00 PM): does anyone look susp to you?
spies8lilith (11:50:04 PM): Well
spies8stephanie (11:50:04 PM): besides me i mean
spies8lilith (11:50:24 PM): After trying to talk to people about the past, I realized it'd be too difficult to catch up on everything.
spies8lilith (11:50:58 PM): So one think for me is to try to play here and now (but of course, it involves bringing up past situations, I'm not really interested in the past situations, just how the person presents their information and how they talk about it to be honest).
spies8lilith (11:52:02 PM): I'm moreso looking at how people say things rather than what they say. I feel mafia can't fake the sincerety that townpeople do. I can't remember if I've told you this or not, I'm telling everyone this part of what I'm looking at because I feel it'll make the mafia even more nervous and careful of what they are saying to me because they know I'll be watching, lol.
spies8stephanie (11:52:41 PM): huh, ok, i guess if that works for you
spies8lilith (11:53:02 PM): You were in my top 2 suspects to be honest, but yours was based off of someone else moreso than your behavior. Now you are leaning back towards unsure (where most people are in my mind, lol, I keep changing my mind on people... going back and forth).
spies8lilith (11:53:11 PM): What do you mean "if that works for me"?
spies8stephanie (11:53:21 PM): i have this horrible feeling that one of the people who looks sincere to me
spies8stephanie (11:53:30 PM): is going to turn out to be a spy
spies8stephanie (11:54:20 PM): i guess i am saying i don't trust my "sincere"ometer
spies8stephanie (11:54:26 PM): as much as you do
spies8lilith (11:54:43 PM): O, I know what you're saying
spies8stephanie (11:54:44 PM): i've had it happen before...
spies8lilith (11:55:06 PM): My first online game, I said "ok, i think these three people are spies, and I'm pretty sure the last spy is someone in my circle of trust"
spies8lilith (11:55:24 PM): but i had no idea who, and i got out before i could find out
spies8stephanie is available (11:55:28 PM)
spies8lilith (11:55:32 PM): that was long ago though
spies8lilith (11:55:46 PM): and mafia games weren't like they were then, lol, now there is too much logic
spies8lilith (11:56:26 PM): in that first one though, i had the fate of knowing who the cop was and them and me working together to pick out the mafia, not really me going "I know it's those three investigate them" ... just having general suspscions and the idea that the last one was someone we trusted, lol
spies8lilith (11:56:28 PM): so i know the feeling
spies8stephanie (12:00:05 AM): did i ask you about larry yet?
spies8stephanie (12:00:20 AM): he's my most susp this round
spies8stephanie is available (12:04:50 AM)
spies8lilith (12:00:35 AM): I haven't talked to him yet.
spies8stephanie (12:00:38 AM): opinions?
spies8lilith (12:00:47 AM): I'm a replacement, in case i didn't mention that, I keep forgetting to tell people that.
spies8stephanie is available (12:03:56 AM)
spies8stephanie (12:01:13 AM): lol, and i haven't seen him that much and hardly talked to him
spies8stephanie (12:01:24 AM): but he just stunk as spy to me
spies8lilith (12:01:29 AM): I haven't seen or heard from Larry to be honest . I feel like I've only analyzed half the people on this team, when in reality there could be 2 or less mafia on our team and they could be the ones staying low .
spies8lilith (12:01:40 AM): I am assuming he was from Lilith's original team?
spies8stephanie (12:01:50 AM): yes
spies8stephanie (12:02:44 AM): brod, jas, isaac, larry and you were dems
spies8lilith (12:03:35 AM): o, kk
spies8stephanie is available (12:03:41 AM)
spies8lilith (12:04:02 AM): I decided I'm just going to tell you my other main suspect since other people are talking about it anyways.
spies8lilith (12:04:33 AM): The whole Zed comment about HQ slipup, and that Sav (a KNOWN innocent, suspected him) and that when I talked to him, he didn't act like a townie (the feeling thing), makes me think he is a spy.
spies8stephanie is available (12:04:39 AM)
spies8stephanie (12:06:10 AM): yeah i think it's possible that either zeke or dane is a spy
spies8stephanie (12:06:14 AM): but i don't think both
spies8lilith (12:06:15 AM): You said something along the lines of "I feel like Zed will be the person from last season who everone suspected and he lasted awhile" ... and to me I felt like you were trying to plant a seed in our heads to LET him be someone we suspect but not vote him out.
spies8stephanie (12:06:37 AM): hmm no i didn't say that
spies8lilith (12:06:43 AM): But, after talking to you, I don't really suspect you as much. Some of the things you say give me the feeling you are town.
spies8lilith (12:06:53 AM): You said something along those lines .
spies8stephanie (12:07:08 AM): rly?
spies8stephanie (12:07:22 AM): i doesn't sound like me
spies8lilith (12:09:47 AM): Lol, I guess I'll look it up, I just thought it was weird.
spies8stephanie (12:10:09 AM): certainly if it was last season, it wasn't me
spies8lilith (12:10:26 AM): Unless someone else said it, but I don't think I was mistaken (I really doubt I am, but there is always the chance, I didn't write it down, just saw the comment and thought it was odd and thought of you as odd for saying it ).
spies8stephanie is available (12:40:49 AM)
spies8stephanie (12:41:30 AM): lil, i started out looking for bussers on the alex wagon
spies8stephanie (12:41:45 AM): i thought that the most likely place for a spy vote
spies8stephanie (12:42:08 AM): and got into a disagreement with nita about it
spies8lilith (12:42:28 AM): ?
spies8lilith (12:42:34 AM): that spies would vote Alexei?
spies8lilith (12:42:49 AM): If spies are smart (which atleast some HAVE to be) they will go after eachother, or pretend to anyways.
spies8stephanie (12:42:56 AM): yes she said it was "the dumbest thing she ever heard"
spies8stephanie (12:43:06 AM): which just made me mad
spies8lilith (12:43:38 AM): On hearing about Nita, the way everyone liked her and trusted her, it made me suspcious of her, however, thinking about the doctor, it does seem likely she was the saved one, and thus I no longer thing that.
spies8stephanie (12:43:53 AM): i think nita is cit
spies8lilith (12:43:58 AM): Altohugh I do still think that someone people like an talks a lot to everyone (Tina, Jenny, i don't know all the names, LOL) will be a mafia.
spies8stephanie (12:44:04 AM): she really just irked me
spies8lilith (12:44:13 AM): But only one or two, not a majority, lol.
spies8stephanie (12:44:39 AM): and she still thinks i'm susp for looking for bussers
spies8lilith (12:44:58 AM): Really?
spies8lilith (12:45:01 AM): hmmm
spies8stephanie (12:45:03 AM): yep
spies8lilith (12:45:07 AM): I mean
spies8stephanie (12:45:59 AM): the chat after exile, i said i was looking for bussers -- and i was rly looking at rondak and hambone
spies8stephanie (12:46:30 AM): but owen was very adamant that it was not a bussing situation
spies8stephanie (12:46:38 AM): and then i began to suspect him
spies8lilith (12:47:02 AM): I do look at people and how they are accusing people (cuz mafia will probably try to point out something a citizen does on accident) so when I first heard of the HQ thing I wanted to know who A) pointed it out and B) who made the slip up. Cuz it would seem like something that a spy would call out (lol, i am being hypocritical right now kinda, cuz it's something I did, but i didn't call him out until after speaking to him and hearing hos he responds, although telling you this probably isn't good cuz i know u trust him for now, or atleast i think u do, so as someone that trusts him, you might tell him this and it'll help him somehow ).
spies8lilith (12:47:13 AM):
spies8stephanie (12:48:32 AM): i was mia that whole exile (fathers day) but i think i would have switched my vote to zeke
spies8stephanie (12:48:36 AM): had i been here
spies8stephanie is available (12:49:29 AM)
spies8lilith (12:53:42 AM): Just to comment on what you just said - I do that all the time, throwing suspcions on alot of people- but I do it to see their reaction.
spies8lilith (12:53:58 AM): I was about to post that in thread, but I didn't want to give any spies the idea to relay that to him. Did you ask why he did that?
spies8lilith (12:54:11 AM): If he didn't give that reason or have a good reason for doing so, then yes, I would suspect him.
spies8lilith (12:54:16 AM): Talking about Larry I think
spies8lilith (12:54:20 AM): or whoever you said that about, lol.
spies8lilith (12:54:22 AM): Just an idea.
spies8lilith (12:54:37 AM): Cuz that's something I do in person games, accuse lots of people (and then read their reactions to being accused, lol).
spies8stephanie is available (12:54:42 AM)
spies8lilith (12:55:23 AM): But I often renig my accusations (like with you, after talking to you, I am leaning towards slightly citizen). I have like a radar, wher emost people are in the middle, you are barely leaning towards citizen , but that's more than most, lol.
spies8stephanie (12:55:49 AM): when nita and i got into that night about the bussers,
spies8stephanie (12:55:59 AM): i said i was susp of rondak and said why
spies8stephanie (12:56:11 AM): and then with owen protesting so much
spies8stephanie (12:56:16 AM): i also accused him
spies8stephanie (12:56:46 AM): i certainly believe in bringing susp out in the open, but it's gotten me in trouble
spies8stephanie (12:57:49 AM): cause then i ended up voting savannah
spies8lilith (12:57:54 AM): I feel hesitant about bringing openly accusing people, cuz after I do so I often change my mind and then people look at me as stupid... LOL.
spies8stephanie (12:58:06 AM): yeah exactly
spies8lilith (12:58:08 AM): But it does get more reactions and I feel I am more confident after gauging HOW people react.
spies8lilith (12:58:12 AM): But then nobody BELIEVES me.
spies8stephanie (12:58:19 AM): exactly
spies8lilith (12:58:26 AM): That's my weakness, when I do settle on a CONFIDENT belief, people view me as flakey.
spies8stephanie (12:58:42 AM): so with rondak, i tried to just present the facts
spies8stephanie (12:58:54 AM): and say this is what i found susp
spies8stephanie (12:59:17 AM): and not accuse him of being spy, but just bring forward what i found susp
spies8stephanie (12:59:39 AM): particularly when it's info no one else has seen
spies8stephanie is available (1:09:51 AM)
spies8lilith (1:13:57 AM): O, I just found that thread, LOL
spies8stephanie (1:14:21 AM): wow lil i'm impressed
spies8lilith (1:14:26 AM):
spies8lilith (1:14:29 AM): you're so mean
spies8lilith (1:14:32 AM): but i'll forgive you
spies8lilith (1:14:32 AM): lol
spies8stephanie (1:14:39 AM): i think its torture to go thro those chat logs
spies8stephanie (1:14:59 AM): i don't think i could do it
spies8lilith (1:15:28 AM): I haven't yet, just skimming to see how people respond, ill do chat logs later when i have free time with no distractions, LOL
spies8lilith (1:15:30 AM): i am lazy, haha
spies8stephanie is available (1:28:06 AM)
spies8stephanie (1:28:06 AM): reboot?
spies8lilith (1:28:13 AM): yeah =/
spies8lilith (1:28:26 AM): this happened yesterday, but then Tina was the only one on so it didn't really matter
spies8lilith (1:28:27 AM): grrrr
spies8lilith (1:28:27 AM): lol
spies8stephanie (1:28:38 AM): firewall?
spies8lilith (1:28:47 AM): what do u mean?
spies8stephanie (1:29:28 AM): the time i couldn't get into chat room, i set my firewall security lower and then was ok
spies8lilith (1:29:38 AM): really?
spies8lilith (1:29:45 AM): let me try that then, lol
spies8lilith (1:29:46 AM): thanks ^_^
spies8lilith (1:30:36 AM): it's not working
spies8lilith (1:30:47 AM): it's not letting me into any chats either (i did a test , lol)
spies8stephanie is available (1:30:53 AM)
spies8lilith (1:30:59 AM): im changing my IE firewall though, so i might not be doing what you dud, LOL
spies8lilith (1:31:11 AM): other people inviting doesn't work either
spies8stephanie (1:31:13 AM): yeah other issues too
spies8lilith (1:31:14 AM): thank you though
spies8lilith (1:31:35 AM): im goin to finish reading this thread then post convos then reboot, ill be back in eventually >_< lol
spies8stephanie (1:31:55 AM): good luck
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spies8zedekiah is available (12:25:49 AM)
spies8lilith (12:25:49 AM): What was your reaction to Savaanah turning up innocent?
spies8zedekiah (12:26:29 AM): I was suprised, but even I was havin my doubts after our last few convos
spies8lilith (12:26:57 AM): Why did you originally think she was a spy?
spies8zedekiah (12:28:36 AM): well there was a thing 'bout how I thought she lied about talkin' t' me, but she cleared it up as a miscomunication
spies8zedekiah (12:28:55 AM): I reeceived suspect logs from gabe around that time
spies8zedekiah (12:29:01 AM): concernin sav
spies8zedekiah (12:29:35 AM): an' i posted these notes on her day two Savannah
1. Goes back and forth between friendly and very defensive, it seems ‘bit scummy to me, but I might be biased here
2. Completely shifted suspicion away from Alexei, never seemed to seriously question him being town
3. Revived the bandwagon on me the day of Alexei’s lynch, some controversy early on about her willingness to lynch inactives
spies8zedekiah is available (12:56:05 AM)
spies8zedekiah (1:09:25 AM): it's nice t' hear a fresh take on all this old info, so do you have a vote set yet?
spies8lilith (1:09:46 AM): a vote set ?
spies8lilith (1:09:48 AM): O
spies8lilith (1:09:52 AM): On who I want to vote?
spies8zedekiah (1:09:55 AM): yes
spies8lilith (1:09:58 AM): No idea, rofl.
spies8lilith (1:10:05 AM): I am very unsure on a lot of things .
spies8zedekiah (1:11:16 AM): just a warnin, but if you don't vote for someone (or atleast "no lynch") you automatically get three votes against you on exile day
spies8zedekiah (1:11:34 AM): also I think there some penalty fer not using yer confessional....
spies8lilith (1:11:38 AM): Okie dokie, lol.
spies8lilith (1:11:48 AM): Thanks for telling me .
spies8lilith (1:11:53 AM): (I know about the confessional )
spies8lilith (1:12:13 AM): Although Lilith didn't use it at all episode 1 and still got to vote no exile, although i think she was excused for something, lol.
spies8zedekiah (1:12:37 AM): it's already taken a dem's life....
spies8lilith (1:12:44 AM): It did?
spies8zedekiah (1:12:50 AM): that's why these things got t' be desisive
spies8lilith (1:14:07 AM): desisive?
spies8zedekiah (1:14:13 AM): camilla, the vote was tied day one
spies8lilith (1:14:14 AM): when are votes due? Thurs I am assumign? lol
spies8zedekiah (1:14:27 AM): if she voted fer anyone she may have been saved
spies8zedekiah (1:14:42 AM): tomorrow at uhhh
spies8zedekiah (1:14:45 AM): let me check
spies8zedekiah (1:15:06 AM): Thursday 10:00 PM CDT
spies8zedekiah (1:15:18 AM): oh wait...
spies8zedekiah (1:15:23 AM): not tommorrow I guess
spies8lilith (1:15:37 AM): lol
spies8zedekiah is available (1:24:21 AM)