Nita
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Post by Nita on Aug 20, 2010 12:39:38 GMT -6
Originally I say if Jasmine ain't imprisoned y the group exile a citizen on Sunday, the game es over y spies win, period.
Jasmine es a spy: 5 citizens, 2 spies Imprison Citizen #1, leavin [4 votin cits] v. [1 votin spy + Jasmine] Sunday: Exile citizen #2 Imprison citizen #3, leavin [2 votin cits] v. [1 votin spy + Jasmine] = game over (it no matter who they exile because you gonna have an imprisonment next)
Jasmine es a citizen: 5 citizens, 2 spies Imprison Citizen #1, leavin [3 votin cits + Jasmine] v. [2 votin spies] Sunday: Exile Citizen #2 Imprison Citizen #3, leavin [1 votin cit y Jasmine] v. [2 spies] = game over (spies got majority)
Jasmine es a citizen: 5 citizens, 2 spies Imprison Citizen #1, leavin [3 votin cits + Jasmine] v. [2 votin spies] Sunday: Exile Jasmine (citizen) Imprison citizen #2, leavin [2 votin cits] v. [2 votin spies] = game over (it no matter who they exile because you gonna have an imprisonment next)
Now Cory say en scenario #1, you could have this:
Jasmine es a spy: 5 citizens, 2 spies Imprison Citizen #1, leavin [4 votin cits] v. [1 votin spy + Jasmine] Sunday: Exile citizen #2 Imprison citizen #3, leavin [2 votin cits] v. [1 votin spy + Jasmine] Exile the votin spy Imprison citizen #4, leavin [1 votin cit] v. [Jasmine] = citizen wins porque Jasmine ain't able to vote
Bien. But if Jasmine ain't a spy y a citizen es exiled, es game over.
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Post by Claude on Aug 20, 2010 13:13:28 GMT -6
Right. If Jasmine is a Spy, then the Citizens have an extra day of breathing room, because the Spies can't yet control the lynch, even if it's 2v2.
But if Jasmine is a Citizen, then the town is at lynch-or-lose as soon as the Imprisonment for Episode 12 happens.
I really don't think that there is much of a chance that Jasmine is a Spy, though. If nothing else, I don't think that the Spies would have let a Spy be the one to be Impeached. I guess it could be a super-WIFOM play, but like..it's awfully risky. And the Citizens really just need to assume that Jasmine is a Citizen, as far as I can tell.
It's an awkward scenario, because Jasmine, even though she has no vote, is not someone that the town can ever afford to lynch, unless they think that she is the last Spy. And if they lynch her incorrectly..then the game is over. Unless the L+1 thing that Sam was talking about means that Jasmine can't win the game as the only Spy left(but I don't see why it would..even if she can't vote, she can still imprison, and can still ultimately win the game via imprisonments).
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Owen
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Post by Owen on Aug 20, 2010 20:09:13 GMT -6
Finale time. See you all Sunday.
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Savannah
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Post by Savannah on Aug 20, 2010 20:18:54 GMT -6
Hope I can make it!
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Post by Cory on Aug 21, 2010 6:48:15 GMT -6
Never mind. Sunday is indeed possible finale night.
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Nita
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Post by Nita on Aug 21, 2010 7:29:43 GMT -6
Hola Chance. You never stop tryin y I like that bout you. So bienvenidios a the hideaway.
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Post by Chance on Aug 21, 2010 11:51:07 GMT -6
hola, neets. i figured after the fiasco that was the dane exile the best help i could be to the town at that point was just to stay alive so i'd be clear at endgame, so this -
...is entirely correct. also, has owen mentioned stephanie's case on jasmine to anyone yet? i know she's got one as she pmed it to both of us before the last imprisonment as a 'just in case'. i was starting to be a little suspicious of her, so i started using dane's theory as an excuse to suspect jasmine to see if she'd jump on it.
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Owen
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Post by Owen on Aug 21, 2010 19:18:11 GMT -6
I think Steph legitimately suspects Jasmine... unfortunately. Don't think it's a scum thing, I think it's a "I don't suspect many of the people left, X must be a spy."
I'm a bit upset that Steph never followed up on any of my final words. The spies are in there.
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Post by Owen on Aug 21, 2010 19:36:54 GMT -6
Ugh. Just saw that Stephanie is considering voting Rondak. Not as bad as Jasmine, but still a game ender IMO.
Rondak was the alternative wagon to the 2 last spies lynched. I just don't see 3 spies being the only ones in danger for 2 rounds.
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Cory
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Post by Cory on Aug 22, 2010 7:57:47 GMT -6
Hoping I can make it to the finale tonight. I'm in a fuggin hotel right now and soon shall be stuck in a car for much of the day.
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Savannah
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Post by Savannah on Aug 22, 2010 8:56:36 GMT -6
Hoping I can make it to the finale tonight. I'm in a fuggin hotel right now and soon shall be stuck in a car for much of the day. Sames.
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Tina
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Post by Tina on Aug 22, 2010 11:48:25 GMT -6
About the same for me too, I should make it, but if was Monday it would be no problem at all.
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Post by Claude on Aug 22, 2010 12:21:42 GMT -6
I think that Kiara could be right about Rondak and Lawrence both being Spies.
Of course, Kiara could also just be a Spy herself.
It's probably one or the other, though.
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Post by Gabriel on Aug 22, 2010 13:07:09 GMT -6
Thing is, the spies had no incentive to flip onto Lawrence if Rondak was a spy - they'd simply exiled him to buy Lawlz some much needed cit cred. I give Kiara credit for realizing the Lawlz blindside really wasn't a blindside, and for narrowing down the pool of suspects in a now spectacularly narrow category - Mary and Herself, who are the only two left on the non-Lawlz bandwagon, meaning Kiara should know Mary is a spy.
Of course, Kiara fails to acknowledge this, but an A for effort I guess.
Though out of the probable newbies, Jasmine is the only one who gets a shiny gold star on her homework from me.
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Post by Dane on Aug 22, 2010 13:14:36 GMT -6
If Rondak ends up being a spy, I will feel so damn vindicated. And if Rondak and Stephanie somehow happen to be the last two spies, my head will EXPLODE from excess vindication
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Post by Gabriel on Aug 22, 2010 13:18:22 GMT -6
Won't happen. Stephanie is a citizen. I feel it in my booooones.
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Post by Gabriel on Aug 22, 2010 13:21:24 GMT -6
Oh and another problem with assuming both spies are on the Lawlrence lynch:
Owen was after lawlz first, no question. Steph has supported Lawlz going forever. Rondak had to vote him for self preservation. Chance was a confirmed Citizen. Hambone ... I don't know what the fuck the deal with hambone is - according to Owen he asked Owen not to build a case on him in exchange for his vote. So scummeh.
Out of that group, Rondak and Hambone are the only two real candidates to be the last two spies, and I'm sorry, I just don't see Rondak as a spy.
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Post by Chance on Aug 22, 2010 14:07:52 GMT -6
i controlled hambone's vote for the past, like, three rounds, by the way. i thought it was very fishy that he'd sheep onto me that completely.
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Post by Broderick on Aug 22, 2010 15:56:50 GMT -6
Rondak is highly likely not a spy. Being the other wagon to two spy exiles, pretty surely points to citizen. Stephanie told me she actually felt more cit about replacementLawrence not too long before I was Imprisoned. So either she was lying, or well.... I remember, because we had opposite views. I found replacementLawrence more spy than original. She found replacementLawrence more cit than the original. If you found Hambone suspicious because of it, then why did you continue to control his vote. Why not call him out? Sam, why'd you let a spy in here?
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Post by Chance on Aug 22, 2010 16:00:16 GMT -6
ugh, not the meatbag. whine all you like, broderdick, the fact of the matter is i don't particularly care anymore. so shove it, kay? thanks.
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Post by Chance on Aug 22, 2010 16:03:00 GMT -6
in other news, kiara's probably right about the lawrence blindside not being a blindside at all, thinking it points to spy rondak is just silly. in what alternate universe was spy-rondak more valuable than spy-lawrence to the spies?
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Savannah
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Post by Savannah on Aug 22, 2010 16:24:01 GMT -6
It would be bizzare if Bizzarondak was a spy. As for Kiara...
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Nita
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Post by Nita on Aug 22, 2010 17:04:12 GMT -6
En what universe es Spy Rondak a better choice than anyone else? Rondak, he nominated exiles 5, 7 y 8, y almost lynched exiles 9 y 10.
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Post by Gabriel on Aug 22, 2010 17:08:46 GMT -6
Bizzaro Universe.
...which would make Bizzarondak make sense. OH JESUS
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Nita
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Post by Nita on Aug 22, 2010 17:13:43 GMT -6
I think it just part of Hambone's personality y it no point to him as a citizen or spy. He first sheep onto me, then Tina. So he latchin on to people who seem real citizen-like. I can see both citizens doin it y a spy doin it.
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Owen
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Post by Owen on Aug 22, 2010 19:01:41 GMT -6
Whoa, finally SOMEBODY BRINGS UP THE BLINDSIDE POSSIBLY NOT BEING A BLINDSIDE.
It's HAMBONE, PEOPLE. HAMBONE.
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Post by Hambone on Sept 11, 2010 11:44:28 GMT -6
hehe
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