Ep 8: Nomination/Exile

[Broderick]

Drill.


Jenny.

I trust Awohali over Kiara.
Awohali's character does not support him being spiteful and lying simply to get Jenny lynched.
He wasn't stupid nor was he a doofus. "But even smart people do bad plays". If it was all fake and a gambit - it would be a terrible play, some thing that would be expected of say a Spies7Yuri.

I believe Claude brought up an excellent point:
"I'm really having a hard time believing that Awohali lied about having a role, knowing about Kiara's role.
It was so, so obvious that we would just have Kiara check him."

Why do I not trust Kiara?
It involves roleholders not being bound by divided teams, conflicting with the aspect of her role about guessing the alignment of the person up for exile - and only for her team. Her role is also unconfirmed - and I don't particularly think she is a citizen.

"jenny was so likely to go this episode that i'm not sure a spy-kiara would have tried to save her like this."

Spies6 Iris/Amelia

[Hambone]

^ That.

All the facts point to Jenny and she is the one I'm voting for right when I get home from work in 6 hours. Bout' damn time. I've been saying she's a Spy all game and it took a dying Citizen's words to finally convince most of you.

-__-

[Jasmine]

What are you guys thinking for back up votes? Obviously those are going to be what counts more for who goes up against Jenny. Either way, Jenny needs to be exiled.

[Jenny]

I trust Awohali over Kiara.
Awohali's character does not support him being spiteful and lying simply to get Jenny lynched.
He wasn't stupid nor was he a doofus. "But even smart people do bad plays". If it was all fake and a gambit - it would be a terrible play, some thing that would be expected of say a Spies7Yuri.


That hardly makes it an impossible situation. Not to mention that it's hardly new to see a citizen lie about having a role to push for an exile they want. Sometimes they even get lucky, but usually it ends in a giant fireball.



believe Claude brought up an excellent point:
"I'm really having a hard time believing that Awohali lied about having a role, knowing about Kiara's role.
It was so, so obvious that we would just have Kiara check him."


No offense meant to Claude, but this isn't the first time he's been sure about something and turned out to be mistaken. Maggie's dumb bit at the end coming to mind that he was sure made her a cit, him being sure that Cammie was a spy, and (correct me if I'm wrong on this one) I'm pretty sure he thought that a spy had to be protecting Lucky and Gerty from those exiles. What makes this time different?


Why do I not trust Kiara?
It involves roleholders not being bound by divided teams, conflicting with the aspect of her role about guessing the alignment of the person up for exile - and only for her team. Her role is also unconfirmed - and I don't particularly think she is a citizen.


I kept forgetting to ask you about it when it came up in the chat, were you asking him about how it worked currently, or how it worked back when we were in teams?


"jenny was so likely to go this episode that i'm not sure a spy-kiara would have tried to save her like this."

I'm with this as well. If she's a spy at all, regardless of what I am, this would have been the best way to make sure that I'd be exiled. If I was a spy, this would pretty much be the ultimate bussing opportunity served on a silver platter, with a side of champaigne. And with me as a cit, she could still do the exact same thing, and could just go "I guess he was just lying about getting to use his role." when I came up cit. What good does it do her at all as a spy to come out and say that Hali didn't have that role after all, especially when her position on me hasn't changed at all anyways even with it?

[Jasmine]

Jul 30, 2010 9:35:28 GMT -6 Hambone said:

^ That.

All the facts point to Jenny and she is the one I'm voting for right when I get home from work in 6 hours. Bout' damn time. I've been saying she's a Spy all game and it took a dying Citizen's words to finally convince most of you.

-__-

I'm voting her as my main vote as well. But we need to realize that one of us is getting our vote back a few minutes before the exile--so Hambone..I'd advise not swapping your vote, or what not. If I win my vote back, or if you do..we still need someone here to vote Jenny. And I don't know what is on Dane's mind?

[Broderick]

I trust Awohali over Kiara.
Awohali's character does not support him being spiteful and lying simply to get Jenny lynched.
He wasn't stupid nor was he a doofus. "But even smart people do bad plays". If it was all fake and a gambit - it would be a terrible play, some thing that would be expected of say a Spies7Yuri.


That hardly makes it an impossible situation. Not to mention that it's hardly new to see a citizen lie about having a role to push for an exile they want. Sometimes they even get lucky, but usually it ends in a giant fireball.

I am not talking about people or citizens in general. I am referring to Awohali specifically. If it were a Chance/Claude situation, then yes - I could see one of them pulling such a gambit. But I'm not talking about either one of them. I am talking about Awohali and his character throughout this entire game. It does not support the idea that he would lie, just to get you exiled.

believe Claude brought up an excellent point:
"I'm really having a hard time believing that Awohali lied about having a role, knowing about Kiara's role.
It was so, so obvious that we would just have Kiara check him."


No offense meant to Claude, but this isn't the first time he's been sure about something and turned out to be mistaken. Maggie's dumb bit at the end coming to mind that he was sure made her a cit, him being sure that Cammie was a spy, and (correct me if I'm wrong on this one) I'm pretty sure he thought that a spy had to be protecting Lucky and Gerty from those exiles. What makes this time different?

Again, you are not talking about Awohali specifically, or disproving it. You are trying to bring a generality to a specific person. You are also trying to compare Mags to Awohali - which is frankly offensive - and completely wrong. You are also talking about what Claude said - not how it applies to Awohali.

Why do I not trust Kiara?
It involves roleholders not being bound by divided teams, conflicting with the aspect of her role about guessing the alignment of the person up for exile - and only for her team. Her role is also unconfirmed - and I don't particularly think she is a citizen.


I kept forgetting to ask you about it when it came up in the chat, were you asking him about how it worked currently, or how it worked back when we were in teams?

Back in episode three, I posted in my confessional a question to Sam - asking him if roleholders were bound by the divided teams. He said no.

"jenny was so likely to go this episode that i'm not sure a spy-kiara would have tried to save her like this."

I'm with this as well. If she's a spy at all, regardless of what I am, this would have been the best way to make sure that I'd be exiled. If I was a spy, this would pretty much be the ultimate bussing opportunity served on a silver platter, with a side of champaigne. And with me as a cit, she could still do the exact same thing, and could just go "I guess he was just lying about getting to use his role." when I came up cit. What good does it do her at all as a spy to come out and say that Hali didn't have that role after all, especially when her position on me hasn't changed at all anyways even with it?

Spies6 Iris/Amelia

"I guess he was just lying about getting to use his role" - Says he had a role, he just didn't get to use it. Slip much?

[Hambone]

Jul 30, 2010 12:33:22 GMT -6 Jasmine said:

Jul 30, 2010 9:35:28 GMT -6 Hambone said:

^ That.

All the facts point to Jenny and she is the one I'm voting for right when I get home from work in 6 hours. Bout' damn time. I've been saying she's a Spy all game and it took a dying Citizen's words to finally convince most of you.

-__-

I'm voting her as my main vote as well. But we need to realize that one of us is getting our vote back a few minutes before the exile--so Hambone..I'd advise not swapping your vote, or what not. If I win my vote back, or if you do..we still need someone here to vote Jenny. And I don't know what is on Dane's mind?

Believe me, there is no way I'm changing my MAIN vote off from Jenny

The host says we also need a second and third vote in case there aren't enough nominations. I still have to think about who I will vote for here. The only other people in this game that I have voted for that are still alive are Brondak, since Gertrude just died. So he may very well get my secondary vote, even though I've virtually not spoken to him since the last time I voted for him... is he still alive?

I will be on AIM soon to discuss secondary votes... however, I strongly urge the senate to get rid of Jenny NOW.

[Broderick]

Too lazy, apparently:

And per the obvious, I can't nominate and I'll be voting jenny. - Dane


Please supply reasons with why you will be voting for Jenny.
(also, this thread is titled Nomination/Exile ... hope that helps )

[Broderick]

Jenny [2] - Broderick, Dane

Not Voting: Chance, Cinnamyn, Claude, Kiara, Lawrence, Mary, Owen, Rondak, Stephanie

[Lawrence]

I am voting for Jenny this round.

Among the reasons already listed, her stance on Rondak is strange. To me, it amounts to her saying he didn't vote for four people she has a Citizen read on, then followed the "easy Exile," according to her. That Exile was Awohali, whom she was on.

[Stephanie]

I voted Jenny last round. I am voting her again. Same reasons plus we now have Awohali's statement that she is a spy.

[Hambone]

and Gert's dying words that she is a spy too

[Jasmine]

Jenny [4] - Broderick, Dane, Lawrence, Stephanie

Not Voting: Chance, Cinnamyn, Claude, Kiara, Mary, Owen, Rondak

[Owen]

I'm voting for Claude. His role is totes scummy.












Yeah, I'm voting for Jenny. Don't let us down, Awo.

[Cinnamyn]

jenny. even taking awohaliz claim dat she iz a spy out of da picshure, she wud b my vote dis round regardliss. she still luks da wurst after a awohali exile wit' her lackluser voting reazin and her continued lame voting reazinz in gen'ral. add 2 dat her passive spyhunting, not protecting ppl she thinks iz cits, allan/nita/savannah situashinz, and playin' da cutesy middle road game, we gots ourselves a spy.

[Jasmine]

Jenny [6] - Broderick, Dane, Lawrence, Stephanie, Owen, Cinnamyn

Not Voting: Chance, Claude, Kiara, Mary, Rondak