awohali

[Chance]

note - written a few days ago and still in its infancy. i'll add to it periodically.

spies8chance (6:52:38 PM):i'd just like to say i did answer your point against me before i left earlier. spies8chance (6:52:53 PM):so claude saying i left to avoid answering it is a lie. spies8chance (6:52:56 PM):just sayin'. Spies8Awohali (6:53:11 PM):That is true, I did note that, actually.

episode three. i don’t actually remember the point in question, but the fact that i answered it and awohali agreed that I had (and that claude was lying) illustrates my point.

Spies8Awohali (7:08:12 PM):You were avoiding some issues during the chat, I made comment of that when you did so. Spies8Awohali (7:08:37 PM):Or at least I perceived it as such, it may not have been intentional on your part, but it did seem that way. spies8chance (7:08:41 PM):i don't think i was avoiding anything. spies8chance (7:08:49 PM):and i ended up answering everything put to me, i think. spies8chance (7:08:53 PM):if i didn't, please tell me. Spies8Awohali (7:09:33 PM):In the end, I believe you did, at least in spirit. I am still slightly confused about a few things regarding your suspicions of Claude, though.

if i ended up answering everything put to me and awohali agrees with me, obviously i wasn’t avoiding anything. point – nulled.

spies8chance (9:17:28 PM):i'm not going to make a big deal out of it, but i knew you still thought i was spreading false information. Spies8Awohali (9:18:31 PM):Indeed, and now that you have backed this up, I will adjust my thoughts on the matter accordingly. I think t would be good to clarify from Mary what she felt, but at any rate, Claude is shown saying Cory is pushy.

this was regarding awohali saying i was still spreading misinformation. i wasn’t. he agreed.

spies8chance (12:18:21 AM): which, as it happens, is the reason i voted magalie over someone like lawrence or zedekiah.
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Spies8Awohali (12:20:11 AM): I can understand that. Sometimes, given the nominating situation, voting for a top suspect is not always the way to go.

spies8chance (12:23:04 AM): on cinnamyn, well, look at the chat we're having right now. claude and zedekiah discussing, you and me discussing. i rarely see cinnamyn participating in chats like this, and she doesn't ever seem to be one of the more active people. she's posted two threads of questions in the burg, but doesn't seem (to me) to be following up on anything from those threads. everybody seems to like cinnamyn because of her personality, but i'm afraid she's sliding through the game based on that.
spies8chance (12:23:14 AM): admittedly, it's a light suspicion that's not based on much.
Spies8Awohali (12:24:00 AM): It may be light, but I consider that a valid reasoning, if studied carefully.

spies8chance (12:35:31 AM): i plan to go to bed in about half an hour, so if you do have any more questions...
spies8magalie (12:37:03 AM) has entered the room.
Spies8Awohali (12:37:13 AM): I do not wish to go overboard tonight. There will be ample time for more questions soon.

in the above three quotes, awohali interviewed me, basically. his word. i answer every question posed to me and he either ‘understands’ or ‘considers it valid reasoning’. i ask if he has any more questions. he doesn’t. this is the last time i spoke with awohali before exile.

so… why did hal vote me over magalie or jenny (both lynches he claimed to be ‘all for’, whereas his only stated reason for voting me was that he didn’t want the nominations too spread out [which is bullshit considering that magalie had two nominations and jenny one when he voted] and that he was ‘going retro’), again? because i was the most likely person to be lynched over magalie? yeah, let’s go with that.

[Chance]

to be added - awohali's defense of magalie.

[Awohali]

episode three. i don’t actually remember the point in question, but the fact that i answered it and awohali agreed that I had (and that claude was lying) illustrates my point.

if i ended up answering everything put to me and awohali agrees with me, obviously i wasn’t avoiding anything. point – nulled.

this was regarding awohali saying i was still spreading misinformation. i wasn’t. he agreed.

You were quite reluctant and avoiding of Claude and others during that chat, though. Even if you ultimately answer everything, it is possible to be avoiding of the questions in the first place.

For example, I classify Jenny as a very avoiding person in nature, but I usually force her to answer my questions. She answers them, but she was stilla voiding in the process.

I believe that in the second quote, I even clarified this, if you reread it. In the end, you may have answered everything, but that does not mean that you did not try to avoid things.
To argue that you are not avoiding something if you eventually answer it after much prodding is not sound logic. If you try to avoid it initially, then you are, by definition, being avoiding.

in the above three quotes, awohali interviewed me, basically. his word. i answer every question posed to me and he either ‘understands’ or ‘considers it valid reasoning’. i ask if he has any more questions. he doesn’t. this is the last time i spoke with awohali before exile.


We had a conversation about this, Chance.

spies8chance (1:13:10 AM): to be honest, i still think you're two-faced about accepting my defenses and voting me anyway. i have examples. i'm not going to go get them because it's late and i'm tired. but i have them.
Spies8Awohali (1:13:43 AM): I am interested to see them compiled in a post, but I am content in waiting until then.
Spies8Awohali (1:14:18 AM): Part of that might be, as I believe I mentioned before, I am always open to the possibility of something, but in the end, I must discern which possibility I ultimately think it is.
Spies8Awohali (1:14:32 AM): Where I might agree with your defense as plausible, it does not necessarily mean that I believe you.

so… why did hal vote me over magalie or jenny (both lynches he claimed to be ‘all for’, whereas his only stated reason for voting me was that he didn’t want the nominations too spread out [which is bullshit considering that magalie had two nominations and jenny one when he voted] and that he was ‘going retro’), again? because i was the most likely person to be lynched over magalie? yeah, let’s go with that.

I have already explained this as well.

Jul 10, 2010 21:59:11 GMT -6 Awohali said:

I will also let it be known that I am still all for the nomination of both Jenny and Magalie, but it does not seem like that is a possibility this round. I am stating it here so that nobody will be confused in thinking that I have magically forgotten them. Let it be known that they remain in my thoughts and prayers. Mostly my thoughts. Not really in my prayers at all.

Jul 11, 2010 18:11:57 GMT -6 Awohali said:

I have only a second to be online, so I can not read much into anything beyond this thread. Given the current situation, I will vote for Chance, because I think that the more people we have nominated, the more chances any potential Spies with votes have to spread things out or flat out pile on the wrong person.
Also, the fact that Jenny and Chance, two of my bigger suspects, are voting for Magalie makes me think that jumping on board with them may not be as good an option as I previously would have thought that voting Magalie would be.

This explains Magalie quite clearly, I believe.

Jenny only had one vote that Episode. I believe that clarifies my position there, as well.

[Broderick]

FTR. I think you should make new posts for additions to what you are adding.