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Post by Broderick on Jul 24, 2010 9:39:06 GMT -6
The drill that we all know. I will probably be nominating Cinnamyn.
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Post by Dane on Jul 24, 2010 11:01:35 GMT -6
why?
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Post by Hambone on Jul 24, 2010 12:20:11 GMT -6
HELLO FRIENDS, LOVED ONES, AND LOVERS... AND DANE... I the Ham Man Hambone am BACK from my vacation ... and back to my old ways. I will be voting to nominate JENNY this week for the simple reason that I am 99% sure that she is a Spy.
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Lawrence
Lawrence
Larry Wonder!
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Post by Lawrence on Jul 24, 2010 13:31:14 GMT -6
At this point, I will be nominating Dane.
I have two reasons, chiefly. The first being a strange comment in group chat, where he stated "the Zedekiah Exile was not supposed to happen," even though he nominated Zedekiah. He later said he meant that it was supposed to be Kiara (true), however, the discussion seemed strange to me.
Also, at Exile 5, his vote to nominate Rondak basically created the opportunity for an alternative Exile to Magalie. The reasoning between him voting for Rondak over Magalie was not much. This could have easily been a Spy attempting to protect her.
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Post by Dane on Jul 24, 2010 13:56:14 GMT -6
hey look, two misinterpretations that were corrected in chat.
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Post by Jenny on Jul 24, 2010 14:19:19 GMT -6
Where on earth is everyone this episode?
Anyways for the time being, I going to have my vote on Hali for reasons I said in the chat today.
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Post by Dane on Jul 24, 2010 16:09:37 GMT -6
Mine is on Lawrence for apparently purposefully ignoring the multiple people explaining why his reasons for nominating me are bogus.
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Post by Dane on Jul 24, 2010 16:10:32 GMT -6
Yes I realize it's an OMGUS
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Post by Broderick on Jul 24, 2010 17:14:38 GMT -6
QFT.
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Post by Hambone on Jul 24, 2010 17:18:09 GMT -6
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Post by Broderick on Jul 24, 2010 17:31:00 GMT -6
Quoted For Truth
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Post by Chance on Jul 24, 2010 17:56:00 GMT -6
i will be nominating awohali for reasons posted in both cinnamyn's thread and my own.
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Post by Chance on Jul 24, 2010 18:54:37 GMT -6
broderick for cinnamyn (?) hambone for jenny lawrence for dane jenny for awohali dane for lawrence chance for awohali
two for awohali: jenny chance
one for cinnamyn (?): broderick
one for dane: lawrence
one for lawrence: dane
one for jenny: hambone
have not posted/voted: kiara rondak jasmine
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Post by Broderick on Jul 24, 2010 19:07:05 GMT -6
[13:00] spies8jenny: Mary: If I had to pick right this second I think I'd go with Hali, but I rather wish we had more then a day after Imprisonment to figure it out. [13:00] spies8mary: Why Awohali? [13:01] spies8jenny: Here, I was just talking about it with someone else, let me just grab that. [13:01] spies8jenny: Well a lot of it has to do with how in recent episodes, he seems to have started taking lessons from Ricky and Claude. Find a player and then make it fit so that they're a spy, instead of the other way around.
Pushing for Lucky and myself over Maggie the round she was knocked out doesn't help matters either.
Are these your reasons Jenny? If so, can you provide evidence.
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Post by Awohali on Jul 24, 2010 19:30:13 GMT -6
[13:00] spies8jenny: Mary: If I had to pick right this second I think I'd go with Hali, but I rather wish we had more then a day after Imprisonment to figure it out. [13:00] spies8mary: Why Awohali? [13:01] spies8jenny: Here, I was just talking about it with someone else, let me just grab that. [13:01] spies8jenny: Well a lot of it has to do with how in recent episodes, he seems to have started taking lessons from Ricky and Claude. Find a player and then make it fit so that they're a spy, instead of the other way around. Pushing for Lucky and myself over Maggie the round she was knocked out doesn't help matters either. Are these your reasons Jenny? If so, can you provide evidence. Preferably evidence that does not suck, as Chance's did.
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Post by Jasmine on Jul 24, 2010 21:32:39 GMT -6
I was at the casino all night. This sucks.
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Post by Broderick on Jul 25, 2010 13:09:09 GMT -6
Why I voted for Cinnamyn:
Towards the beginning of the game I felt her to b more on the lurker side than anything. She wasn't really active publicly that I know of in group chats and things - however she did make a few posts with things addressed to multiple people. I thought she would turn into a vocal leader - sadly that has not happened. Nor has she really made any of her posts lately, and I rarely see her on AIM or in the group chats discussing things.
I also think she lied and is not completely truthful about her suspects. I also think she may be a wagoner.
On Sunday July 18th, I asked her who her top suspect was and she said:
spies8cinnamyn (19:09:50): i think kiara probs rite now
With the reasoning that she voted Allan as well as Kiara not having a read on both Magalie and Isaac, when Cinnamyn asked her during Episode 4.
I asked her why these things made Kiara her top suspect, and she said:
spies8cinnamyn (19:13:24): bcuz theyre thingz a spy wud do broderick, get ur head out of da gutter
She eventually said that a citizen would not vote for Allan, and Kiara not having a read on either Magalie or Isaac when they were top suspects - showed she was trying to stay neutral.
I asked her when Kiara voted for Allan, and it was the one from Episode 5. I told her how Tina swayed her off Allan, which led to her voting for Rondak. Cinnamyn had no idea this had happened. I asked her when the last time she talked to Kiara - she said ten minutes ago. Cinnamyn knew that Kiara suspected Tina, but had no idea why.
I asked her why she didn't ask Kiara why she suspected Tina, and she said:
spies8cinnamyn (19:19:47): nope, didnt no she wuz swayed by her
I don't think the swaying matters here. It seems she doesn't really care why Kiara suspects these people.
I asked Cinnamyn why Kiara seemed to be the groupthink choice at the time, the answer was the Kiara was suspicious. I asked why not before this episode and :
spies8cinnamyn (19:23:42): magalie flipped spy n' she prevoted allan, both of which happened late last round spies8cinnamyn (19:23:55): which haz drawn my attenshin
I asked her if she had any suspects other than Kiara. Zed and Awohali. Zed because of his late vote on Mags, it concerned her. Awohali because he was against Mags when she wasn't in danger of being Exiled, but when she was - he had switched to Jenny and Chance.
It seems to me that part of Awohali being suspicious is because he suspects Jenny and Chance - both of whom at the time of this conversation are not suspects of Cinnamyn's. So it seems to me that if you suspect someone who Cinnamyn doesn't - you are there fore suspicious.
She made a comment that she found something weird about Awohali. I asked her why not ask him - she said she had a headache, and she was already talking with four people. I told her I found it suspicious that she had maybe talked to one of her suspects, when all three had been online. Which is where I now became a suspect.
Later the next day we got in an argument, because she didn't understand how I found it suspicious that naming me towards the end of the conversation after I said she had done something suspicious looked incredibly OMGUS.
She stated that she had told Gertrude about suspecting me. Which I can't confirm from Gertrude, as she uses Meebo and it wasn't auto-logging her chats, and she didn't copy it to her confessional, however to be noted - she did not remember it happening. She did however remember that Cinnamyn said I had a bad voting record. Chance confirmed that Cinnamyn said this. But I don't think saying someone has a bad voting record is an automatic leap to them being one of your suspects.
When I spoked with her yesterday, she admitted that part of it was OMGUS and that I had a good point about her leaving me off when I originally asked who she suspected.
Condensing a little bit.
Sunday, July 18 - her suspects: Kiara, Zedekiah, Awohali, (Broderick)
The Night of Exile/ Wednesday, July 21st - her suspects: Kiara, Zedekiah, Jenny
I asked her yesterday morning if it was true about the suspect switch, and why both Awohali and myself dropped off, and Jenny was up there.
pies8cinnamyn (09:15:5): u n' awohali had slipped down 4 me bcuz wen i talked 2 yall both of u made me feel better about u spies8cinnamyn (09:15:18): so naturally u went down, while jennyz bad voting reazinz dat day, made her go up
According to Awohali, Cinnamyn spoke to him on Monday, July 19th. Very briefly and it was regarding his voting for Magalie. Which seemed to be her major point against him.
I asked her in her 'Spotlight on Awohali' thread if that was what made her feel better about Awohali, and she confirmed it was.
Now she is back on Awohali. I find it a 'crime' of opportunity if you will. I believe she suspected Awohali because of his interactions with Magalie, she then felt better about him because of his reasoning about his interactions with Magalie. She then jumped back on him at what I believe was a time that he was getting attention from other people, and his name was brought up.
Is she still suspicious of Jenny? I don't know that answer currently. However Jenny's reasons for her vote this episode are just as sucky as last. Yet Cinnamyn seems to have no qualms about suspecting Awohali even though Jenny and Chance do.
Over all I think she suspects people based on how much their name is spoken in the current episode.
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Post by Broderick on Jul 25, 2010 13:19:53 GMT -6
I knew I left at least one thing out. The following chat excerpt should be paired with this quote:
spies8cinnamyn (19:59:45): bcuz awohali iz still on jenny, 2 spies8cinnamyn (19:59:53): and jenny haz slipped down 4 me
I had asked Cinnamyn why she didn't suspect Mary for doing essentially the same thing as Awohali had done in regards to voting Magalie. Cinnamyn admitted that Mary had, to a slightly lesser extent. I asked her why she then did not suspect Mary for the same thing, and she had said 'because Awohali is still on Jenny, 2 & Jenny has slipped down for me'.
Which I have taken to mean, that Awohali is partly suspicious for that reasoning, because he is suspecting Jenny, whom Cinnamyn at the time was not suspecting.
Edited for a quote tag fail.
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