Ep 7 Conversations

[Bizarrondak]

You just have to love foreshadow:

11:26:59 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Spy! Spy! Spy!
11:27:14 Brondak (spies8rondak): shoosh orI'll imprison you in a closet.
11:27:24 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): You guys are already planning to imprison me
11:27:44 Brondak (spies8rondak): Or maybe just beat you and leave you in an alley
11:27:50 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Far preferable
11:27:59 Brondak (spies8rondak): or a ditch, it's your choice...
11:28:00 Brondak (spies8rondak): not
11:28:07 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): I'm not ready to depart from this here Burg.
11:28:43 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): You Spies need to stop killing off all the fun players
11:28:46 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Gabriel, Nita, Tina
11:28:48 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Yeesh
11:29:00 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Have some class, fuckas
11:29:11 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Kill off a dead beat or somethin'
11:29:34 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Not a terrible choice with Lilith, spoofing you as the doc and all
11:29:39 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): But even she had her moments
11:29:49 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Let's look at some good kills for next week
11:30:07 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Broderick would be a wonderful candidate
11:30:15 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Cinnamyn because she is never around
11:30:20 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Dane
11:30:28 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Kiara, wouldn't cry if she left, though she could easily be a Spy
11:30:38 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Jenny, but don't tell her I said that
11:30:49 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Zedekiah, who's also probably a Spy
11:31:03 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): How about Lawrence? That'd be a no brainer
11:31:17 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): So, consider that route
11:31:55 Brondak (spies8rondak): Either way, somebody's getting exiled and somebody's getting iprisoned
11:32:00 Brondak (spies8rondak): That's the way the story goes.
11:32:05 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Indeed
11:32:12 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): But you kill me, Owen
11:32:22 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Then there won't be no more drama!
11:32:26 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Well I guess you'll have Claude
11:33:10 Brondak (spies8rondak): who knows
11:33:40 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Brondak you must not imprison the fun players!
11:33:56 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Hambone, for example
11:33:58 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): TERRIBLE OPTION
11:34:17 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Oh if you fuckers imprisoned him next I'd lose all hope in your humanity
11:35:34 Brondak (spies8rondak): Hambone is nomore
11:37:59 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Well then. Moving on.
11:38:18 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): We have Spies to catch. And as long as you, Rondak, cooperate, we'll not exile you till last.
11:38:35 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Now, I understand your position. You cannot directly implicate your partners. They'd murder you.
11:38:51 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): So we'll just chat normally.
11:40:30 Brondak (spies8rondak): I'm getting killed anyway, so who cares?
11:40:57 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Life as an exile is far superior to the lack thereof possessed by a dead man.
11:41:12 Brondak (spies8rondak): right
11:42:08 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Well, Rondak, I will not argue with you if you were to tell me the names of your three partners here and now.
11:42:16 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): But perhaps starting with one would be more... cautious.
11:42:44 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): There's no fun to being served all the spies on a platter
11:42:53 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Even if they will kill me next week!
11:43:06 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): If there's no hunt, there is no game.
11:45:24 Brondak (spies8rondak): true
11:45:40 Brondak (spies8rondak): Maybe I should just get this over with.
11:49:25 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): So, any new suspicions surface since our last chat?
11:49:50 Brondak (spies8rondak): nope, I'll just be tunneling Chance due to my lack of interaction with other players
11:51:06 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): But you think he's a citizen
11:51:15 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): albeit a 'distracting' one
11:53:40 Brondak (spies8rondak): Don't put words in my motuh
11:53:44 Brondak (spies8rondak): mouth*
11:53:53 Brondak (spies8rondak): I never said I think he's a citizen
11:55:26 Spies8Cory (spies8cory):
(01:54:53 PM) spies8Cory: Do you think he is a distracting Citizen?
(01:55:11 PM) spies8rondak: that, or a very theatrical spy

11:55:34 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): That reads to me as you believing it more likely he is a Citizen
11:55:42 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Is that the incorrect conclusion to draw?
11:56:29 Brondak (spies8rondak): At that time I interpreted "citizen" as player
11:56:50 Brondak (spies8rondak): I wasn't aware that citizen and spy were mutually exclusinve
11:56:53 Brondak (spies8rondak): exclusive*
11:57:08 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Seems to me you knew the difference, since you clearly said "or a spy"
11:57:12 Brondak (spies8rondak): I thought spies were considered citizens as well
11:57:23 Brondak (spies8rondak): that seems to you
11:57:32 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Then why did you draw the distinction?
11:57:36 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): What was the "or" in reference to?
11:57:50 Brondak (spies8rondak): sheesh, what's with all this grammar naziness
11:57:59 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Lol, it's not naziness
11:58:12 Brondak (spies8rondak): and also
11:58:14 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): That reads as having a clear understanding of the difference
11:58:17 Brondak (spies8rondak): Am I not allowed to change my mind?
11:58:27 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Sure you are, but you're claiming you never thought he was a Citizen
11:58:33 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): So therefore there is no mind changing going on
11:59:03 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Brondak, help me see this from your perspective!
11:59:18 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Do you think Chance is a spy, here and now?
11:59:27 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): More likely than, say, the others you've gotten a chance to talk to
12:02:06 Brondak (spies8rondak): I think he could be
12:03:13 Brondak (spies8rondak): and why does everybody keep mixing "think" and "said"?
12:04:18 Brondak (spies8rondak): My claim was that I never SAID I thought Chance is citizen
12:04:46 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): spies8Cory: But you think he's a citizen
12:04:57 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): spies8Cory: Sure you are, but you're claiming you never thought he was a Citizen
12:05:00 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): That's what I said as well
12:05:14 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): "think" "thought"
12:06:27 Brondak (spies8rondak): My claim is on "saying", not"thinking"
12:07:56 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): All I have to work with is what you _said_ to me
12:08:11 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): And my inferrance is that what you said suggests that at the time you thought he was more likely to be a Citizen than a Spy
12:09:20 Brondak (spies8rondak): That's what you infer
12:09:26 Brondak (spies8rondak): Try not to pass you judgment as fact
12:09:28 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Are you denying it then?
12:09:29 Brondak (spies8rondak): your*
12:09:39 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): What was your thought at the time?
12:09:48 Brondak (spies8rondak): I thought he was distracting
12:10:01 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Which did you think was more likely?
12:10:14 Brondak (spies8rondak): I'm not sure.
12:10:21 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Which do you think is more likely now?
12:10:49 Brondak (spies8rondak): And what does it matter what I thought at the time (I was newly arrived and made conclusions based on one conversation=?
12:11:50 Brondak (spies8rondak): My argument is that he's important, independently of his real role, and his elimination will be beneficial for the spy hunt regardless of his true nature.
12:12:35 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): So you want him exiled for information
12:12:43 Brondak (spies8rondak): It's OK if that's considered anti-town, I just want to confirm other suspicions, and he seems to play a key part
12:12:51 Brondak (spies8rondak): Yes
12:14:07 Brondak (spies8rondak): If players are going to be on my trail just for technicalities and phrasing, might as well just go ahead and play my own game
12:14:29 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): This is a tricky game we play here, Rondak
12:14:36 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): This is all about words and phrasing
12:14:42 Brondak (spies8rondak): I kinda figured it out already
12:15:22 Brondak (spies8rondak): And that's making me think people are so desperate to find actual clues that they're willing to waste their time analyzing synthax, especiallly from an ESL player.
12:15:51 Brondak (spies8rondak): So, suit yourselves, I'll go hunt some actual spies.
12:15:59 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Lol
12:16:06 Brondak (spies8rondak): Spare me the grammar lesson.
12:16:24 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Rondak, look at it from my window of perspective for a second and tell me if you think it's unreasonable
12:16:32 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): I look through my chats and see a peculiar comment
12:16:36 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): And I confront you about it
12:17:01 Brondak (spies8rondak): The thing about both confrontations I've gotten is that they emerged due to my noobness
12:17:21 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Well now I have you on record with what you really think
12:17:25 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): No misunderstandings now
12:17:46 Brondak (spies8rondak): Simple as that.
12:17:48 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): My hunch was right. You want Chance exiled regardless of alignment
12:18:00 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): As for whether or not I think it's suspicious, well, it depends
12:18:40 Brondak (spies8rondak): I guess that all depends on you.
12:19:03 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Depends on you, actually
12:19:15 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Were it someone like Claude who said that I'd be immediately suspicious
12:19:22 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): But given you just entered the game, I'm less certain
12:19:30 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): I find it peculiar you have no suspicions though
12:19:37 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Even Chance, you don't seem to have a firm stance on him
12:20:58 Brondak (spies8rondak): I haven't analyzed voting history so far, I'm just basing this first decision on gut and first impressions.
12:24:15 Spies8Cory (spies8cory): Did old Rondak have many chats posted?
12:24:45 Brondak (spies8rondak): not really

[Bizarrondak]

13:09:32 Brondak (spies8rondak): So, Mary, what are your thoughts?
13:10:12 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): I have a lot of thoughts.
13:10:36 Brondak (spies8rondak): Anything stand out?
13:10:47 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): I don't like the push on Awohali.
13:10:56 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): What do you think of him?
13:11:20 Brondak (spies8rondak): There might be something hidden behind his strange sense of humor
13:11:30 Brondak (spies8rondak): but on gut dfeeling, I'm getting an innocent vibe
13:11:41 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): What do you think of the three cases on him?
13:11:49 Brondak (spies8rondak): let me check them really fast
13:11:52 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): Ok.
13:21:24 Brondak (spies8rondak): Hmm...
13:21:31 Brondak (spies8rondak): It seems strange
13:22:01 Brondak (spies8rondak): that instead of refuting the caes on him, Awohali keeps saying "not true" orthe likes
13:22:27 Brondak (spies8rondak): He doesn't seem to back up most of his counter-arguments
13:23:23 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): What's an example of that?
13:27:23 Brondak (spies8rondak): nevermind, I misread
13:27:51 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): I think he addresses Chance's points pretty well.
13:28:08 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=burg&thread=1269&post=7562
13:28:19 Brondak (spies8rondak): But, I'm not sure if it's his personality...but I find it awkward that he tends to attack the person as well as the argument
13:28:26 Brondak (spies8rondak): Take Cinnamyn for an example.
13:28:28 Brondak (spies8rondak): :
13:28:51 Brondak (spies8rondak): These asre some of Awohali's responses "Secondly, I have not coasted or rested on the same suspicions at all. I have added many things to my thoughts and cases on many people since Episode 2. To actually suggest that I have not is quite honestly flabbergasting."
13:29:22 Brondak (spies8rondak): "I tried to push for Magalie over Margot. People such as yourself were not having that. I find it funny that in a round in which you voted for a Citizen over the Spy, you are criticizing me for voting the Spy over the Citizen."
13:29:56 Brondak (spies8rondak): "I am never sarcastic. Overall, I am quite disappointed in this case against me. I would have expected more substance, rather than claims easily proven to not be true."
13:29:57 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): That does make it personal.
13:30:10 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): Instead of simply addressing the accusation, it tries to make the accuser look bad.
13:30:30 Brondak (spies8rondak): And that last statement stood out now that I read it again.
13:30:42 Brondak (spies8rondak): What did he mean when he said he expected "more substance"
13:30:45 Brondak (spies8rondak): ?
13:30:57 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): That is about Cinnamyn's case?
13:31:02 Brondak (spies8rondak): yes
13:35:53 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): He's clearly trying to say that he addressed all her points, but also that all her points were bad.
13:36:17 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): Because it is possible to make points of substance that are still refuted successfully.
13:43:15 Brondak (spies8rondak): who are you voting for?
13:43:39 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): I am trying to decide between Jenny and Cinnamyn.
13:44:19 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): I am interested in learning more about your suspicions.
13:46:01 Brondak (spies8rondak): innamyn fell completely off my radar, since I haven't had much contact with her.
13:46:24 Brondak (spies8rondak): The previous rondak had suspicions about Jenny, but he didn't leave much as to wht
13:46:26 Brondak (spies8rondak): why*
13:46:34 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): She has made a few big posts lately, and also has a fairly significant post history.
13:46:38 Brondak (spies8rondak): While some players claim is her being avoiding
13:46:40 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): Cinnamyn, that is.
13:46:51 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): With Jenny, it is the constant lack of suspicions.
13:47:04 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): She nominated a player she didn't have a Spy read on.
13:47:47 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): Her reasons for votes or suspicions often seem to be "I need to see more of him/her."
13:48:04 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): And yet when she sees them, she rarely asks anything that would help determine alignment.
13:48:12 Brondak (spies8rondak): true,and I rmember her saying that she "wasn't ready to see [Chance] go"
13:49:55 Brondak (spies8rondak): It's a very complicated game
13:53:17 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): Well, you've only had 8 days to learn 4 weeks worth of happenings.
13:53:39 Brondak (spies8rondak): For now, I'll just try to see who I agree with the most
13:58:19 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): Who are the four spies?
14:02:31 Brondak (spies8rondak): If I had to pick with just gut feeling...
14:03:13 Brondak (spies8rondak): I would say
14:03:18 Brondak (spies8rondak): Chance, Claude, Jenny and Gertrude
14:03:30 Brondak (spies8rondak): but that's just blindly guessing
14:04:14 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): Do you suspect that Claude is bussing Spies?
14:04:29 Brondak (spies8rondak): could be
14:04:39 Brondak (spies8rondak): see,this is my motto
14:04:50 Brondak (spies8rondak): "You never know the extent of Reverse Psychology"
14:06:17 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): How do you apply that motto to this game?
14:06:44 Brondak (spies8rondak): Maybe a player seems to be very pro-town, and is very good at finding spies
14:06:55 Brondak (spies8rondak): That could be a cover-up for a spy
14:07:29 Brondak (spies8rondak): At that point you could think that such a good player shouldn't be exiled
14:07:40 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): So your list of people you agree with most.
14:07:46 Brondak (spies8rondak): So bussing becomes a good strategy for survival
14:07:49 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): Could have all four spies.
14:08:11 Brondak (spies8rondak): Yes, it's all probabilistic
14:09:00 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): Owen has voted for three Spies. How will you evaluate him?
14:09:39 Brondak (spies8rondak): That's the thing, I haven't talked to him
14:09:52 Brondak (spies8rondak): So my suspicions would be that he's a spy because
14:10:06 Brondak (spies8rondak): From what I read about Tina, she was very good with cases
14:10:11 Brondak (spies8rondak): and she was exiled
14:10:29 Brondak (spies8rondak): now, if Owen was such a good player at finding spies, why wasn't he imprisoned before?
14:11:39 Spies8Mary (spies8mary): A valid point that also applies to me.
14:16:38 Brondak (spies8rondak): But, yeah I'll guess I'll have to go with however I feel.

[Bizarrondak]

21:39:25 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): whassup rondak boo
21:39:53 Brondak (spies8rondak): hey cinnyminny
21:40:04 Brondak (spies8rondak): Being Senate is a tough job
21:40:09 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): lmbo.! i no rite
21:40:13 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): wut r u thinkin'.?
21:40:32 Brondak (spies8rondak): I will go back to my initial suspicion of Claude vs. Chance
21:40:40 Brondak (spies8rondak): I think at least one of those two is a spy
21:41:10 Brondak (spies8rondak): I said I was going to go with my gut feelings, but I've got indigestion
21:41:28 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): lmbo
21:41:40 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): wut were ur gut feelingz.?
21:42:13 Brondak (spies8rondak): I kept rotating between you, Chance and Claude
21:42:19 Brondak (spies8rondak): based only on the cases in the Burg
21:43:03 Brondak (spies8rondak): How do you decide who to vote for?
21:43:17 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): on who i think iz da most spyish based on my interacshinz and cases posted on dem
21:43:21 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): so i am goin' wit awohali
21:44:55 Brondak (spies8rondak): Because he's being too defensive?
21:45:09 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): well i posted a case on him in da burg, did u c it.?
21:45:13 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): but he iz rather defensive
21:45:38 Brondak (spies8rondak): that was my same logic to nom Chance last week
21:46:27 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): i think there iz a way 4 every1 2 b defensive, citz dont want 2 b exiled either. but i think if u defend urself by insulting da ppl who made a case on u, it iz spyish
21:46:29 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): which awohali haz dun
21:47:34 Brondak (spies8rondak): exactly
21:47:42 Brondak (spies8rondak): that or you're a douche
21:47:56 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): im a douche.?!?! lmbo.!
21:48:19 Brondak (spies8rondak): well, if you act that way
21:48:36 Brondak (spies8rondak): I think Awo is acting mildly like a jerk
21:48:48 Brondak (spies8rondak): But that cold be interpreted in many ways
21:48:50 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): tru. i think he findz himself untouchable and iz mad i pointed thingz out about him
21:49:00 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): but i laid out my suspishinz and he called them redickliss
21:49:10 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): and den iznt responding 2 dem bcuz he findz dem redickliss.? fishy
21:50:49 Brondak (spies8rondak): let's see what happens
21:50:56 Brondak (spies8rondak): maybe he's just an ass xD
21:52:53 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): i tend 2 think he iz a spy azz
21:53:27 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): wut about claude n' chance, r u voting 1 of dem.?
22:00:42 Brondak (spies8rondak): It's like playing roulette
22:00:49 Brondak (spies8rondak): I've got so many suspects that I keep switching
22:03:31 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): who do u suspect.?
22:04:42 Brondak (spies8rondak): My top three right now are Chance, claude and Awohali
22:04:50 Brondak (spies8rondak): followed by Jenny
22:05:05 Brondak (spies8rondak): but it has changed throughout the day
22:06:30 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): iz chance ur top.?
22:09:53 Brondak (spies8rondak): hmmm was
22:10:11 Brondak (spies8rondak): Partly because I hadn't heard anything from anybody
22:24:30 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): so r u basing ur vote based on wut other ppl say.?
22:25:03 Brondak (spies8rondak): yup
22:25:16 Brondak (spies8rondak): that and the group chats
22:28:19 Brondak (spies8rondak): just playing the game and having fun
22:28:31 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): gud 4 u lmbo
22:28:36 Spies8Cinnamyn (spies8cinnamyn): 2 many ppl take it so seriously
22:30:06 Brondak (spies8rondak): brod and hali for instance
22:30:09 Brondak (spies8rondak): sometimes chnce
22:30:14 Brondak (spies8rondak): too bad cory was imprisoned
22:30:25 Brondak (spies8rondak): he was intense, but at least he was fun to RP with

[Bizarrondak]

Here, I was just pissing Awohali off

22:13:34 Brondak (spies8rondak): what's up
22:14:10 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): Ah, so when called out, you are suddeny interested in speaking with me?
22:16:07 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): I have heard that you intend to vote for me potentially. Could you explain why?
22:17:13 Brondak (spies8rondak): Mainly for that kind of attitude
22:17:51 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): So you find an attitude to be a valid reason to exile someone?
22:17:56 Brondak (spies8rondak): yes
22:18:20 Brondak (spies8rondak): even though the main objective of the game is exiling Spies, I'd like to have fun playing as well
22:18:26 Brondak (spies8rondak): and dude, you have to admit
22:18:52 Brondak (spies8rondak): if you're going to burst everytime someone thinks about voting on you, someone's bound to suspect something
22:19:10 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): Should I instead encourage people to vote for me?
22:19:24 Brondak (spies8rondak): No, but you don't have to be rude, or try to belittle their arguments
22:19:39 Brondak (spies8rondak): you could very well refute them without recurring to insults or aggressive comebacks
22:19:58 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): If an argument is invalid, I have the duty to treat it as such. I do not simply say "These shoes suck" and walk away. I refute them with reason, and I do not insult or belittle people.
22:20:16 Brondak (spies8rondak): nad if they're not meant to be aggressive, I and other players interpret it as such
22:20:34 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): I will be aggressive in defending myself, for that is my nature. I will not be eliminated under poor reasonings and lose my chance to play this game without a fight.
22:21:30 Brondak (spies8rondak): I respect that
22:21:48 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): I thank you for that, but though you say that you respect it, you intend to vote for me because of it.
22:22:41 Brondak (spies8rondak): Respect does not equal agreement
22:23:07 Brondak (spies8rondak): Even if you say that's how you are, I still perceive it as something suspicious
22:23:40 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): I am sorry that you feel that way, for I will not roll over and play dead and watch myself be Exiled anyway.
22:25:14 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): What I shall say is this; if I am Exiled, know that it is entirely Jenny and Chance who suddenly suspected me, after I voted for both of them and tied them together, and people have all climbed aboard out of nowhere.
22:25:48 Brondak (spies8rondak): noted
22:26:10 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): But I will not be Exiled, so that will not be an issue.
22:26:31 Brondak (spies8rondak): ok
22:27:06 Brondak (spies8rondak): Chances are, you are not a spy, and if you are exiled as a citizen, at least I'll confirm some suspicions
22:28:25 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): I do not agree with the idea of lynching someone you see as a likely Citizen for the sake of confirming suspicions, however, if my death leads to their deaths, I can live with that, despite the fact that I will be dead.
22:28:42 Brondak (spies8rondak): I do not see you as a likely citizen
22:28:53 Brondak (spies8rondak): I just said that probabilistically speaking, you may not be one
22:29:20 Brondak (spies8rondak): let me correct the ambiguity
22:29:40 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): An important distinction, for certain.
22:29:42 Brondak (spies8rondak): Probabilistically speaking, you may be a citizen, but your attitude makes me be inclined to think otherwise
22:30:36 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): So are, of course false, but that is not a debatable subject for either of us,
22:31:52 Brondak (spies8rondak): the thing is, you never know who is lying
22:32:02 Brondak (spies8rondak): At least in RL mafia you get nonverbal cues
22:32:27 Brondak (spies8rondak): Here you can correct anything before you say it as if you had time to rehearse each and every line
22:33:04 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): That is true, though that applies to everyone in the game, so I do not see that as valid reasoning for any one specific suspicion against someone.
22:33:30 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): You could be lying to me with every word at the moment. It is possible. It is a matter of likelyhood that is important, and for that, you need actions and motives beyond the words.
22:34:15 Brondak (spies8rondak): true
22:34:44 Brondak (spies8rondak): but, I decide how I play
22:35:22 Brondak (spies8rondak): Maybe I'm not a seasoned vet, but I'll just go with what I want, which may not necessarily be seen as the "smart" choice.
22:36:32 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): I can assure you that generally speaking, voting for someone's attitude is not a smart choice, especially here.
22:37:51 Brondak (spies8rondak): true, but since it's the last game, and my first, why settle for normal playing?
22:38:03 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): Would'nt you like to win?
22:38:37 Brondak (spies8rondak): I don't see anything special on winning, besides there's lots of people that have played before
22:38:49 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): What is the point of playing, then?
22:39:02 Brondak (spies8rondak): I'd rather play my own way and be eliminated when people find me too irritating than playing safe
22:39:20 Brondak (spies8rondak): The point of playing, for me, is having fun
22:39:44 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): And it is fun to vote for people for more or less nothing pertaining to the actual game?
22:40:30 Brondak (spies8rondak): I'm having fun following my own strategy
22:41:07 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): And in the meantime, this 'strategy', which consists of nothing, more or less, shall end the game for me and ruin my fun for no reason at all.
22:41:28 Brondak (spies8rondak): sorry
22:41:36 Brondak (spies8rondak): nothing personal, it's just a game.
22:42:28 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): A game that I shall not lose due to whims.
22:42:40 Brondak (spies8rondak): good luck with that
22:42:49 Spies8Awohali (spies8awohali): And no luck to you. We have nothing to discuss.
22:43:14 Brondak (spies8rondak):

[Bizarrondak]

20:11:27 spies8lawrence: Hello my good sir Rondak
20:11:38 Brondak (spies8rondak): Evening, Mr. Lawrence
20:11:45 spies8lawrence: How are you this fine evening?
20:11:52 Brondak (spies8rondak): Just peachy, and you?
20:12:19 spies8lawrence: Quite well . . . excited that we again have eight members of our cast on AIM
20:13:11 Brondak (spies8rondak): it was a busy week
20:13:20 spies8lawrence: I quite like the activity
20:13:27 spies8lawrence: The first few nights I was here were slow
20:14:09 Brondak (spies8rondak): yeah, I arrived here suring a break, so everything was pretty inactive
20:14:19 spies8lawrence: Understandable
20:26:26 Brondak (spies8rondak): I think I'll just vote randomly
20:26:36 Brondak (spies8rondak): unless I'vegot a strong feeling
20:26:49 spies8lawrence: This is a joke, right?
20:27:02 Brondak (spies8rondak): nope
20:27:19 Brondak (spies8rondak): I've been thinking about it
20:27:43 Brondak (spies8rondak): and due to everybody making a case on different people is bound to bias the senate
20:28:13 Brondak (spies8rondak): That would allow the spies to stay off the radar
20:29:54 spies8lawrence: No offense, but this is terrible
20:30:33 spies8lawrence: You should never vote randomly
20:33:07 Brondak (spies8rondak): why
20:33:33 spies8lawrence: The only weapon we have against the criminals in our midst is our vote
20:33:34 Brondak (spies8rondak): voting randomly might provoke unexpected reactions from some
20:33:56 spies8lawrence: By randomly voting, you are leaving the outcome of the game to random chance
20:34:43 Brondak (spies8rondak): But that way you can discover things you normally wouldn't
20:36:30 spies8lawrence: I agree, but the same strategy could be achieved in a more calculated manner, I believe
20:36:37 spies8lawrence: However, I do like that you are thinking along those lines
20:36:57 Brondak (spies8rondak): I decided since I came here that I wouldn't play conservatively