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Post by Mary on Jul 2, 2010 15:03:26 GMT -6
[16:17] spies8mary: Hi. [16:17] spies8jasmine: Hey mary [16:17] spies8jasmine: how are you? [16:17] spies8mary: Ok. [16:18] spies8mary: I'm glad you're still around. [16:18] spies8mary: After all your votes on you last night I had to reread your posts to make sure my thoughts on you weren't wrong. [16:20] spies8mary: Who would your vote have been for if you were not in danger? [16:20] spies8jasmine: Isaac. [16:20] spies8jasmine: I would have kept it on him [16:20] spies8mary: He's my top suspect from over there. [16:20] spies8mary: By far. [16:20] spies8jasmine: Do you really think Magalie is spy? [16:21] spies8mary: I don't know. [16:21] spies8jasmine: I still don't see it. [16:21] spies8mary: But she keeps lying about who she suspects and why. [16:21] spies8mary: Not just not having opinions. Lying. [16:21] spies8jasmine: Hm. [16:21] spies8jasmine: do you think she might just be bored tho? [16:21] spies8jasmine: with the whole thing. [16:23] spies8mary: Maybe. (Sorry talking with Stephanie for the first time.) [16:23] spies8jasmine: It's okay! [16:23] spies8jasmine: I'm trying t look up the BET awards from last night [16:23] spies8jasmine: or whenever it was [16:28] spies8mary: There is no way you and Isaac are spies together. [16:28] spies8mary: These chats real like real disagreement. [16:29] spies8jasmine: What do you mean? [16:29] spies8mary: Looking at you and Isaac going at it in forum posts etc. [16:30] spies8jasmine: Oh oka [16:30] spies8jasmine: y [16:31] spies8mary: I want to see Chance, Isaac and Jenny nominated. [16:31] spies8mary: Maybe Magalie. [16:32] spies8jasmine: I know I will be nominated as well. [16:32] spies8jasmine: By Brod/Isaac/Chance [16:34] spies8mary: Not if I can help it. [16:34] spies8jasmine: I agree though [16:34] spies8jasmine: a Chance/isaac/jenny nomination [16:34] spies8jasmine: would be a good thing [16:34] spies8jasmine: I could see them all being spies. [16:34] spies8jasmine: Jenny I've yet to speak to [16:34] spies8jasmine: but she made a huge impact n the republican side [16:35] spies8jasmine: when we came over [16:35] spies8mary: I have to share my cases with you. [16:35] spies8mary: The ones on Chance and Jenny are good. [16:35] spies8jasmine: Are they? [16:36] spies8mary: Yesterday, Chance put his 6 spies list on the forums. [16:36] spies8mary: Do you know who he voted for? [16:37] spies8mary: Here's his spy list. [16:37] spies8mary: claude, mary, jasmine, one of jenny/rondak, and two of the republicans that i haven't really looked at. [16:38] spies8jasmine: ugh he bugs the shit out of me [16:39] spies8jasmine: i dont see u as a spy [16:39] spies8jasmine: i dont see claude as a spy [16:39] spies8jasmine: im not a spy [16:39] spies8jasmine: i dont even know who rondak is [16:39] spies8jasmine: jenny is prolly really a spy, but he added her name in there [16:39] spies8jasmine: so sutpid [16:39] spies8mary: I asked him [16:39] spies8mary: What do you think about Jenny and he said nice things about her. [16:39] spies8mary: No evidence. [16:39] spies8mary: I asked him why Rondak he said he doesn't really know him. [16:40] spies8mary: Notice, Jas. Magalie, who he voted for isn't in his list of 6 spies. [16:41] spies8jasmine: hm, thats true [16:41] spies8jasmine: BET IS ON NOW ACTUALLY [16:41] spies8jasmine: ONE SECOND [16:41] spies8mary: Ok. [16:41] spies8jasmine: GOTTA WATCH THIS MARY!!! [16:41] spies8mary: Have fun. [16:41] spies8jasmine: THANKS GURL [16:41] spies8jasmine: IMMA JAMM [16:41] spies8mary: Bye.
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Post by Mary on Jul 2, 2010 18:27:28 GMT -6
[15:50] spies8stephanie: hi mary [16:15] spies8mary: Hi. [16:16] spies8stephanie: just trying to talk to the people i haven't seen in a while [16:16] spies8mary: I'm not sure we've ever spoken about the game. [16:16] spies8stephanie: right [16:17] spies8mary: What did you think of last night's Exile? [16:17] spies8stephanie: ugh [16:17] spies8stephanie: not much [16:17] spies8mary: What do you think of Zed? [16:17] spies8stephanie: i voted for lawrence and mags [16:17] spies8mary: Yes. [16:18] spies8stephanie: i think zeke is fairly clueless cit [16:18] spies8mary: Why Cit? [16:18] spies8stephanie: because of the way alexei attacked him in our first chat [16:18] spies8stephanie: i think alex was looking for an easy target [16:18] spies8stephanie: i'm not entirely sold on this [16:19] spies8mary: Ok. [16:19] spies8mary: Who came up with that argument first, you or Tina? [16:19] spies8mary: Or both independently? [16:19] spies8stephanie: it could possibly have been a spy on spy distraction, but i don't think so right now [16:19] spies8stephanie: came up with it first, idk, i thought it was obvious [16:20] spies8stephanie: and that's why i moved dane off my suspect list [16:20] spies8mary: Why's that? [16:20] spies8mary: Because he and Alexei fought? [16:22] spies8stephanie: themba put an early omgus vote on dane, and then i built a case on dane, and then alex jumped on it [16:22] spies8mary: Ok. [16:22] spies8mary: That makes sense. [16:22] spies8stephanie: still looking for an easy target evidently [16:22] spies8mary: You suspected Lawrence yesterday. [16:22] spies8mary: Why? [16:22] spies8stephanie: still do [16:22] spies8stephanie: he made no sense when he first got to the dems [16:23] spies8mary: His vote on Themba was terrible. [16:23] spies8stephanie: our first conversation with him, he said he had a gut spy read on broderick, most suspicious of jasmine, but if he had to vote right then would vote isaac or themba [16:24] spies8mary: And then he switched to you which looked like OMGUS. [16:24] spies8stephanie: looked like someone trying to throw around as many suspicions as possible [16:24] spies8mary: Did Tina back off of him because you suspected Lawrence? [16:24] spies8stephanie: idk [16:24] spies8mary: She made a case and then dropped it. [16:24] spies8mary: Right after you agreed with it. [16:25] spies8stephanie: yeah, idk, i think she just found someone who looked more suspicious [16:25] spies8mary: Did you get much of a read on Rondak? [16:25] spies8stephanie: which is i guess how lawrence is slipping under the radar [16:25] spies8stephanie: haha [16:26] spies8mary: I guess that's a no. [16:26] spies8mary: You seemed to suspect him a little at one point. [16:26] spies8stephanie: i brought forth an early suspicion of rondak that has been called the stupidest thing ever by more people than i can count [16:26] spies8mary: Oh, the bussed thing. [16:26] spies8mary: How about Owen? [16:26] spies8mary: Is he a Cit? [16:27] spies8stephanie: omg i sure hope so [16:27] spies8stephanie: i said when i sent him my 7 answers that if he was a spy we are doomed [16:27] spies8mary: He looks ok to me. [16:27] spies8mary: But I've never spoken with him. [16:27] spies8mary: Did anyone look bad on the Savannah wagon? [16:28] spies8stephanie: oddly i had mild suspicions of owen at one time and also of gabe, but have since but those aaway [16:28] spies8stephanie: we all looked bad [16:28] spies8stephanie: ugh [16:28] spies8mary: Who are your top suspects now? [16:28] spies8stephanie: i still think tho that savannah looked worse than anyone [16:28] spies8stephanie: why didn't she claim earlier? [16:29] spies8stephanie: i still have larry as my top suspect [16:29] spies8mary: I don't know. I only know she claimed Messenger after votes were closed. [16:29] spies8stephanie: and of course am just getting to talk to everyone again [16:29] spies8stephanie: but why wait? [16:29] spies8stephanie: totally diff than claude [16:30] spies8stephanie: how about your suspects? [16:30] spies8mary: Claude's claim was bad regardless of his alignment. [16:30] spies8mary: Maybe a little better for a Spy. [16:30] spies8mary: My top few from my team are Magalie, Chance and Jenny. [16:30] spies8mary: Isaac from your team. [16:31] spies8mary: Lawrence looks sketchy too. [16:31] spies8stephanie: mags is ridiculous [16:31] spies8stephanie: ugh [16:31] spies8stephanie: tell me about chance [16:32] spies8mary: Chance I got a real strong read on early. [16:32] spies8mary: Manipulative. [16:32] spies8mary: Episode 2 his vote was stolen and he just lurked. [16:32] spies8mary: Threw snowballs at Claude and watched Margot go down. [16:33] spies8mary: Got a sketchy role used on him. [16:33] spies8mary: Hasn't asked me anything but listed me in his top 6 spy suspects. [16:33] spies8mary: Has very few spy reads. [16:33] spies8mary: Yesterday he said "Rondak and Jenny" [16:33] spies8mary: I asked for details, he says nice things about Jenny and says he doesn't really know Rondak. [16:34] spies8stephanie: that's iffy [16:34] spies8mary: Magalie is not in his list of 6 spies. [16:34] spies8stephanie: did you notice last night that sam said we had our first "public" bribe? [16:34] spies8mary: When we ask who he's voting for, he said "Magalie". [16:35] spies8stephanie: he did vote mags, right? [16:35] spies8mary: I think so. [16:35] spies8mary: So why's she not in his 6 spies list? [16:35] spies8mary: That he made yesterday morning? [16:35] spies8stephanie: good question [16:36] spies8mary: I was in his list and he took me off the moment I started a chat with him. [16:36] spies8mary: Really weird. [16:36] spies8mary: Sorry, also chatting with Jasmine. [16:36] spies8mary: What do you think of her? [16:37] spies8stephanie: i think she is disruptive in chats [16:38] spies8stephanie: she seems more concerned with her own personal safety than in spy hunting [16:38] spies8mary: What do you think of her suspects? [16:38] spies8stephanie: all over the place? [16:38] spies8mary: Really? [16:38] spies8stephanie: isaac [16:39] spies8mary: I've seen Chance and Isaac mostly [16:39] spies8stephanie: then voted themba and yes chance [16:39] spies8stephanie: but she doesn't ever talk them much [16:40] spies8mary: Who else did she suspect? [16:40] spies8mary: I saw her mention you. [16:40] spies8stephanie: probably [16:41] spies8mary: What do you think of Isaac? [16:41] spies8stephanie: i have not talked to him that much [16:41] spies8stephanie: have not got much of a read on him [16:42] spies8stephanie: how about you? [16:42] spies8mary: He blended into the background a lot in our group chats the first two days. [16:42] spies8mary: Jasmine and I compared notes and his suspicions didn't seem very consistent. [16:43] spies8mary: And his vote for Jasmine kind of looked weird. [16:43] spies8stephanie: yeah, jas was right about a lot of people seem vaguely suspicious of him, but nothing there when they looked [16:43] spies8mary: He couldn't come up with a top three of suspects. [16:43] spies8mary: And then ended up voting for the #3 he came up with later. [16:44] spies8stephanie: i had a run in with broderick the other night, he just drives me crazy [16:45] spies8mary: He is the next person I need to read up on. [16:45] spies8stephanie: saw he tried the same thing with lilith last night [16:45] spies8mary: He managed to make very little impression on me in two weeks. [16:45] spies8stephanie: lucky you [16:45] spies8mary: He fought with Nita today. [16:45] spies8stephanie: i'm leaning cit on him, but just want to stay away [16:46] spies8stephanie: cause that seems to be his technique for spy-hunting, have a fight with everyone [16:46] spies8mary: I hope he doesn't start anything with me. [16:46] spies8mary: That's how Dr. Crowhurst got hurt. [16:47] spies8stephanie: broderick? [16:47] spies8mary: Dr. Crowhurst was my fiance. [16:47] spies8mary: He's a doctor at my hospital. [16:47] spies8stephanie: yeah i saw the drama from last night [16:47] spies8mary: Ok. [16:48] spies8stephanie: that was horrible [16:48] spies8mary: Yes. What Simon did to him was awful. [16:48] spies8mary: Even if he deserved it a little. [16:48] spies8mary: For lying. [16:48] spies8stephanie: yeah, lying not good [16:49] spies8mary: Now the police want to talk to me about what happened so I have to hide when they knock. [16:49] spies8stephanie: they will find you eventually, you should just talk to them [16:50] spies8stephanie: so, jenny? [16:50] spies8mary: Yes. [16:51] spies8mary: I don't like how she dodged the topic of Alexei aa lot. [16:51] spies8mary: In your group chats. [16:51] spies8stephanie: i haven't had a chance to talk with her since the claim [16:51] spies8mary: Did you notice that? [16:51] spies8stephanie: sure [16:51] spies8stephanie: her only suspect was zeke [16:51] spies8stephanie: ever [16:51] spies8mary: Right. [16:51] spies8mary: Everyone brought up evidence and she never discussed it [16:51] spies8mary: Got dead silent when it came up. [16:51] spies8stephanie: she got silent a lot [16:52] spies8mary: And just stayed locked on Zed. [16:52] spies8stephanie: has anyone talked to allan? [16:52] spies8mary: Not much. [16:52] spies8mary: He pops in and leaves pretty fast. [16:52] spies8mary: And seems disinterested. [16:53] spies8mary: But apparently he trusted her on day two before any voting or anything. [16:54] spies8stephanie: after the savannah exile, i actually tried to talk to him and he got mad at me and said he didn't want to talk to me anymore [16:54] spies8mary: Ok. [16:54] spies8stephanie: i had thought he was pretty reasonable in the few short chats i'd had with him until the hambone case [16:55] spies8mary: We didn't ask him any more about his role considering Jenny claimed it and not him. [16:55] spies8stephanie: and i thought the hambone case was pretty weak and said so in the chat, but in the meantime, allan had confessed to lying [16:55] spies8mary: His voting is terrible though. [16:56] spies8stephanie: he's never here, so i think his voting has to be terrible [16:56] spies8stephanie: same with lawrence [16:56] spies8mary: I haven't gotten to know Hambone much. [16:56] spies8stephanie: lawrence claims to read the chat logs etc, but it's not the same [16:56] spies8mary: His posts look ok, he looks enthusiastic about spyhunting and interested. [16:57] spies8mary: What's your take on him from the first two weeks? [16:57] spies8stephanie: when i originally started looking for bussers on the alex wagon, his name came up [16:58] spies8stephanie: also labeled the stupidist thing ever [16:58] spies8stephanie: sry just bugs me [16:58] spies8stephanie: gabe had a good opinion of him, so maybe he's ok [16:59] spies8stephanie: hambone seemed to be sucking up to everyone originally which is why i thought he was suspicious [17:00] spies8mary: Is that not what he was doing? [17:00] spies8stephanie: but i later discovered that he is from a survivor background, not mafia, so maybe it makes sense [17:00] spies8mary: Ok. [17:00] spies8mary: Gertrude has been like that for all three episodes. At first it looked innocent but I am starting to look at her more closely. [17:00] spies8mary: She is very image conscious. [17:01] spies8mary: Yesterday, she didn't want to be seen voting on a bandwagon. [17:01] spies8mary: Because she was on one the first two exiles. [17:03] spies8stephanie: but i thought she voted mags yesterdy? [17:06] spies8mary: Yes. [17:06] spies8mary: So she failed at her mission.
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Post by Mary on Jul 2, 2010 18:29:34 GMT -6
[10:34] spies8jenny: I do wish claude would stop being ridiculous over his hate of alias's. [10:35] spies8mary: He has fun with me sometimes. [10:35] spies8jenny: Usually when I see him, and the issue comes up he just complains that it's a waste of time. [10:35] spies8mary: I think the game would be pretty boring if everyone was like Claude. [10:36] spies8jenny: It's not that really, so much as he really should have known what he was signing up for, considering it was plastered all over the rules and info and application stuff. [10:37] spies8mary: I've been able to find Spies in the past while still having fun. [10:37] spies8mary: Sometimes people's characters actually draw the Spies out. [10:38] spies8jenny: It has less to do with catching spies, and more to do with he doesn't really have any reason to complain about the roleplaying and having to write confessionals, and the alias's, considering it's always been advertized as major parts of the game. It's like going out to a pasta place and then complaining that they don't serve tacos. [10:38] spies8mary: True. [10:39] spies8jenny: It's like, what the heck were you expecting to happen? [10:40] spies8mary: I'm reading last night's chat now. I was barely watching as it happened, on and off. [10:41] spies8mary: It looks like Magalie and Themba got nominated, and we made a halfhearted case on Magalie while they made aggressive cases on Jasmine and Themba. [10:41] spies8mary: Which made Themba the easy choice for both Spies and Citizens over there. [10:41] spies8jenny: It's more like we tried to tell them about Maggie, and they kept interupting and saying themby should be picked anyways. [10:42] spies8jenny: Kind of think the republicans should have been told to be a bit quieter while we told them our thoughts on it. [10:42] spies8mary: Let me look at our Magalie thread and how it ended up. [10:43] spies8jenny: Okies! [10:43] spies8mary: Only three people posted. [10:43] spies8mary: Awohali, me and Cory. [10:44] spies8mary: And Awohali's first point was "she's not very active". [10:44] spies8jenny: I would have posted in it, but the points I would have said were already pointed out by you guys. No need to lengthen it to say the same thing. [10:44] spies8mary: That is a terrible point to lead with. [10:44] spies8mary: 2. Magalie's reasoning for voting suspicions are poor. [10:44] spies8jenny: Especially when it's supposed to be a concise summary for them to read. [10:44] spies8mary: 3. She was detrimental to our team during the final challenge. [10:44] spies8mary: 4. She has not, to my knowledge, asked many questions or done any Spy hunting. [10:45] spies8mary: Those all basically describe Margot. [10:45] spies8jenny: I wouldn't know about that so much, I hadn't followed the democrat team closely during the first episode. [10:45] spies8mary: Margotr got exiled for being a lazy Citizen, basically. [10:48] spies8mary: What do you think of Owen, Tina and Lilith? [10:49] spies8jenny: Owen, I'd been leaning cit on, but I hadn't really seen enough on him yet to be perfectly sure. Tini, I've been thinknig is a cit ever since the first exile finished, and Lily I haven't seen nearly enough to make any sort of judgement. [10:51] spies8mary: What gave you your strong Cit read on Themba? [10:52] spies8mary: I remember you saying she was not really an option for you at Savannah's exile. [10:52] spies8jenny: Conversations we'd had during the first episode we talked made no sense to me for her to be a spy really. [10:52] spies8mary: Did you share that with people? Did they listen? [10:53] spies8jenny: For example, the one that comes up off the top of my head, that yes I did tell people about was when teams were first sent out. [10:53] spies8jenny: She had accidently posted her bio in your forum, and I IM'd her to correct her on it. [10:53] spies8jenny: At first she edits her post out, but a few minutes later she comes out and asks me what I'm talking about, and asks if I'm worried about the spies being revealed. [10:54] spies8mary: That's odd. [10:54] spies8jenny: I had to ask a couple people to help me try to explain what was going on with teams, because I wasn't really getting it across to her. [10:54] spies8mary: What else? [10:54] spies8jenny: That's the big one that I can think of off the top of my head, let me go through my logs to see what else came up. [10:55] spies8mary: Oh, you don't have to. [10:55] spies8mary: I'm more curious to know who was receptive to evidence and who wasn't. [10:55] spies8jenny: But in general, some of the conversations we had the first episode came off to me as "confused citizen" over being a spy. [10:57] spies8jenny: The few people I did talk to did try to help me out, but she ended up going afk for a while by then, so I think in the end Judge Sam probably helped her out. [10:58] spies8mary: Zed and Kiara voted Themba twice. But so did Nita once. [10:58] spies8mary: Are you glad we voted Magalie instead of no exile? [11:00] spies8jenny: Honestly, I would have prefered a nomination of myself over a no exile. Remember last game when we had this same situation came up, and the freemasons decided ahead of time they'd just send the person the other side picked to be exiled? It turned into an episode long break for the freemasons, and it got to the point that one person was being shot down for even trying to bring up discussion. To heck with that happening a second time. [11:03] spies8jenny: And by the way, I didn't get to say before, thanks for going with the idea I had suggested about putting up a topic for the republicans to read about our likely cases and expanding on it. [11:04] spies8mary: It didn't work out too well. [11:04] spies8jenny: Maybe, but at least it was tried. [11:05] spies8jenny: Better then freemasoning the whole episode.
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Post by Mary on Jul 2, 2010 18:57:56 GMT -6
[17:27] spies8tina: Hello. [17:27] spies8mary: Hi. [17:28] spies8tina: You were one of the people who had been voting Magalie for a while right? [17:28] spies8mary: Actually, I forgot to vote last night. [17:28] spies8mary: But yes. [17:28] spies8tina: Ok, well intended to vote her at least. [17:29] spies8mary: Yes. [17:29] spies8tina: How did she end up being a clear top vote getter? [17:29] spies8mary: Good question. [17:29] spies8tina: I only have talked with Chance so far and it seems to be "for lack of a better option" from him. [17:30] spies8mary: Chance's vote was sketchy. [17:30] spies8mary: Let's see. Gertrude said Magalie was her #2 choice at Exile 2. [17:30] spies8mary: Awohali and I voted Magalie at 2. [17:30] spies8mary: Claude got in her grill this episode, then softened as you saw. [17:31] spies8mary: Jenny is Jenny. [17:31] spies8tina: Yeah, she is a hard read. [17:31] spies8mary: Cory, let me think. [17:31] spies8mary: He kind of floated over to her this episode. [17:31] spies8tina: Allan probably just followed Jenny knowing him. [17:32] spies8mary: Allan wanted Chance or Claude to go. [17:32] spies8mary: And then voted with the cool crowd. [17:32] spies8mary: Nita voted no exile but would have voted Magalie most likely. [17:32] spies8tina: I do not think much of him most of the time, but he seems to be cit. [17:32] spies8mary: Allan? [17:32] spies8tina: Yes. [17:33] spies8mary: I would press him on roleclaiming to escape exile except for the unique circumstance. [17:33] spies8mary: He didn't actually claim. [17:33] spies8tina: Right, Jenny did for him in an unnecessary situation. [17:33] spies8mary: Yes. [17:33] spies8tina: He was not getting exiled. [17:33] spies8mary: So it's better to get Jenny's alignment first. [17:33] spies8tina: Yep. [17:33] spies8mary: Why didn't you suspect Jenny more after the Alexei exile? [17:34] spies8tina: I did at first. [17:34] spies8tina: Looking between the people who could have detracted from his wagon though, she looks more like she picked the wrong vote then anyone else. [17:34] spies8tina: Jenny did next to nothing to get someone apart from Alexei exile, or stop him from being exiled. [17:35] spies8mary: Reading the group chats, it appears she ignored it twice when you brought up contradictions about Alexei-Jenny and Alexei-Tina chats. [17:35] spies8mary: Do you recall that happening? [17:35] spies8tina: I remember her not being super into an Alexei prospect when I brought up his wierd lines to her as the situation occured. [17:35] spies8mary: She said she talked to him for over an hour. [17:36] spies8mary: She must have gotten a read. [17:36] spies8tina: Alexei did send me part of a log with her and him right before the chat. [17:36] spies8mary: What did it look like? [17:36] spies8mary: Legit? [17:36] spies8tina: It was a few lines only, I will find it. [17:36] spies8mary: Don't bother if you don't remember. [17:36] spies8tina: Mirrored what she said he was thinking pretty well. [17:36] spies8mary: You didn't get the sense it was faked. [17:36] spies8mary: Ok. [17:37] spies8tina: I am not really sure what faked looks like unless it is very bad. [17:37] spies8mary: What do you think of Zed now? [17:37] spies8tina: Normally I lean him cit, but with all the flips I continue to second guess that read. [17:37] spies8tina: As I can completely see Alexei tripping all over himself trying to bus-distance. [17:38] spies8mary: So you weren't the one to come up with the "fight looks real" theory. [17:38] spies8mary: Zed vs. Alexei. [17:38] spies8tina: I thought it looked a lot realer at first then I do now, but I still have him as slight cit read. [17:39] spies8tina: spies8jenny (7:20:29 PM):So what do you think about all this?spies8alexei (7:20:46 PM):I personally think he's definitely a spyspies8jenny (7:25:37 PM):This is just the craziest... I don't even know what is happening now.spies8alexei (7:25:47 PM):he's changed his storyspies8alexei (7:25:53 PM):that's enough for mespies8jenny (7:25:57 PM):That much I got, but this is the most ridiculous thing ever.spies8alexei (7:26:02 PM):yeahspies8alexei (7:30:00 PM):I'm still not convinced [17:39] spies8mary: When you switched off your Lawrence case, it looked like you suspected a Spy dogpile. [17:40] spies8tina: Yes, that is why I switched off it. [17:40] spies8mary: Who was the Spy? [17:40] spies8tina: I got absolutely no resistance to the case. [17:40] spies8tina: That freaked me out a whole lot. [17:40] spies8mary: When you posted it, who jumped aboard fastest? [17:40] spies8tina: Steph I think was the first on it, and she did not let go of it. [17:40] spies8mary: She's still firmly on it. [17:41] spies8tina: I think she is. [17:41] spies8mary: I think his E2 and Themba suspicions were terrible. [17:41] spies8mary: So I want to know more about what he thinks of Jasmine, Broderick and Isaac. [17:41] spies8tina: I thought the way he responed to the case, and what he went on to point out on people were somewhat decent though. [17:42] spies8tina: Even though it took me making that push for them to happen. [17:43] spies8mary: Did he ever commit on Broderick? [17:43] spies8tina: Not that I saw. I got in one conversation with him. [17:43] spies8tina: And he left before I wanted to be done talking. [17:43] spies8mary: He said he spotted a Themba-Isaac spyslip. [17:44] spies8mary: Which is normally not something you see Spies looking for. [17:44] spies8tina: Right. I had in my notes "Law or one if not both of Isaac-Themba", largely due to him pointing that out. [17:44] spies8tina: Also due to him coming in saying Isaac and Themba were his top picks. [17:44] spies8mary: What's your take on Jasmine? [17:45] spies8tina: She does not do enough is one big thing. [17:45] spies8mary: I got a Cit read on her day one/two. [17:45] spies8mary: I reread today to see what you guys were on about. [17:45] spies8tina: Out of her and Isaac, I have been thinking Isaac is more likely spy. That is a bigger reason I have her as cit. [17:46] spies8mary: Episode 2, she and I compared notes and found Isaac inconsistent in suspicions. [17:46] spies8mary: I had a list of his top 3. [17:46] spies8tina: I went into him with that too, and he sort of flipped out at me. [17:46] spies8mary: She got him to list Margot in a top three. [17:46] spies8mary: We confronted him and he Isaaced out of it. [17:46] spies8tina: He also went on a large tangent for why he would vote Chance if he was allowed to vote Chance E2 if Chance was not immune and lurked as much as he did. [17:47] spies8tina: It took me a good 15-20 minutes to figure out what he was even talking about htere. [17:47] spies8mary: That's bizarre. [17:47] spies8tina: That is what I was thinking. [17:47] spies8mary: What's your reasoning behind Isaac as a Spy? [17:48] spies8tina: His suspicions were seemingly odd when he came in. [17:48] spies8tina: The reason I was voting him for a while comes out in the "questions to tina" thread. [17:48] spies8mary: His top three was only two, and then he voted someone outside it. [17:48] spies8tina: Well he also seemed to get very upset when I brought up him not pushing Jasmine. [17:48] spies8mary: It looked to me as if he got pushed into voting Jasmine. [17:49] spies8mary: His case on her is crappy. [17:49] spies8mary: But he's stuck to it. [17:49] spies8mary: Did you follow our side much? [17:50] spies8tina: Enough to know a quick outline on the top few suspects. [17:50] spies8mary: Who are your top few from our side? [17:50] spies8tina: Magalie looks like a decent vote, and I side with a Chance vote out of the Chance-Claude debate that continues. [17:51] spies8mary: Anyone else? [17:51] spies8tina: Not really. You guys seem to always have a few very hot topics and lots of other stuff gets drowned out. [17:52] spies8mary: Gertrude and Cinnamyn are our "bad voters". [17:52] spies8mary: Camilla Margot and Margot Margot. [17:52] spies8tina: Ah. [17:52] spies8mary: I'll be interested to hear your impressions once you meet them. [17:53] spies8mary: So who would your three nominees be at this point? [17:53] spies8mary: For Owen? [17:54] spies8tina: Isaac, Magalie and ?? [17:54] spies8tina: Last one can be a whole lot of different people. [17:54] spies8mary: I would go with Chance or Jenny. [17:55] spies8tina: Will likely depend on what I get from people, have not talked with most dems yet. [17:55] spies8tina: I can see it being Chance or Jenny easily. Without talking with anyone it probably would be one of them. [17:55] spies8tina: I would not push for either of them over Isaac/Magalie though. [17:55] spies8mary: I need to take a quick walk before bed. Any questions for me before I go? [17:55] spies8tina: No, may have more later but not right now. [17:55] spies8mary: Ok. [17:56] spies8mary: Have a good night.
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Post by Mary on Jul 2, 2010 18:58:40 GMT -6
[16:43] spies8cory: Simon. [16:44] spies8mary: Hi. [16:44] spies8cory: How are you? [16:44] spies8mary: It's Mary. [16:44] spies8cory: Who's Mary? [16:44] spies8mary: I spent a lot of money on therapy to figure that one out, Cory. [16:45] spies8mary: Please don't make me do it all over again. [16:45] spies8cory: spies8Simon: Please don't make me do it all over again. [16:45] spies8cory: Not sure what to tell you. [16:46] spies8mary: Who do you suspect lately, Cory? [16:46] spies8cory: Lol, still working on that one. [16:46] spies8cory: But my suspects are largely the same. [16:46] spies8mary: From the other team? [16:46] spies8cory: I think Jenny is still the top dog on my list. [16:46] spies8cory: The GOP? [16:46] spies8cory: Isaac [16:46] spies8cory: And looking into Stephanie right now [16:46] spies8cory: She seemed pretty sure of Themba for some reason [16:47] spies8cory: Apparently thought she was the doc for some reason [16:47] spies8mary: Talking with her right now. [16:47] spies8cory: It seems odd that only 3 people voted Magalie last night [16:48] spies8cory: THEMBA (5): Lilith, Tina, Kiara, Jasmine, Zedekiah [16:48] spies8mary: Why? [16:48] spies8cory: THEMBA (9): Jasmine, Lilith, Zedekiah, Isaac, Broderick, Owen, Tina, Dane, Kiara [16:48] spies8mary: Why would a Themba voter switch? [16:48] spies8cory: They wouldn't [16:49] spies8cory: Dane [16:49] spies8cory: Broderick [16:49] spies8cory: Isaac [16:49] spies8cory: Owen [16:49] spies8cory: I want to know what made them chooes Themba over Mag [16:49] spies8mary: Our case on Magalie was terrible. [16:49] spies8cory: Looking at it now [16:50] spies8mary: If you summarize Awohali's four points, it sounds exactly like Margot. [16:50] spies8mary: Unhelpful, unsupported suspicions, not around. [16:51] spies8cory: Isaac said he was between Themba and Jasmine [16:51] spies8cory: So I guess his vote is no surprise [16:53] spies8mary: Isaac's vote on Jasmine is terrible. [16:54] spies8mary: When asked about top three suspects he could only list two. [16:54] spies8cory: Well, Simon, so is stabbing people in the eye with a pencil. [16:54] spies8cory: I had a chat with Isaac earlier [16:54] spies8mary: He listed two others but ended up voting Jasmine out of nowhere. [16:54] spies8cory: Let me see what he said. [16:54] spies8cory: I couldn't really focus on his answers [16:54] spies8cory: They were fucking long winded. Lol. [16:56] spies8mary: He is very image conscious. [16:57] spies8cory: spies8isaac: I've stated it several times. If you look at the way she says things she keeps using "we" as a reason she does or doesn't seem to be voting people. It looks like she is looking for the next bandwagon to hop onto. ALso After agreeing by posting in my thread to look at old cases and suspicions and get an all around view of the game, when day 3 ended she basically admitted she still didn't know(As she didn't really make an arguments) and voted someone she knew instead
spies8isaac: I had disagreements with her off and on throughout episode 2 which is all in the chat logs. After the first big callout I did of her actions in a group chat, we both kinda realized it seemed we were misinterpreting eachothers actions and I figured I needed some more time to look it over. I posted the thread on her end of day 2 so that others had a reference in case they saw the same things. But day 3 rolls around and I see all the same things happening again and I felt it waas to much to brush off as a misunderstanding. [16:58] spies8mary: I don't want to read that. [16:58] spies8mary: It looks impenetrable. [16:58] spies8cory: It's an admission of guilt [16:58] spies8cory: Trying to sum it up here [16:58] spies8cory: 1) She uses 'we' as a reason for her actions [16:59] spies8cory: 2) She didn't look into old cases by the end of episode three [16:59] spies8mary: He basically posted all that before. [17:01] spies8mary: What's the admission of guilt? [17:01] spies8cory: I was kidding, Simon. [17:01] spies8cory: Humor. [17:01] spies8cory: It's good for you. [17:01] spies8mary: Oh. I read it twice and didn't see it. [17:02] spies8cory: Lol. [17:02] spies8mary: You tricked me. [17:02] spies8cory: I did. [17:02] spies8cory: It was all deception. [17:02] spies8cory: So Mary. [17:02] spies8cory: Question for you. [17:02] spies8mary: I've been right about you since the start. [17:02] spies8cory: Something I have noticed about you. [17:02] spies8mary: You're not a nice man. [17:02] spies8mary: Ok. [17:02] spies8cory: I get the feeling you don't suspect me one bit. [17:03] spies8cory: Am I wrong here? If so, how? If not, why? [17:03] spies8mary: Why? [17:03] spies8cory: Most questions you ask me seem to pertain to things you're already looking into. [17:03] spies8cory: I've yet to hear anyone say you ask about me. [17:03] spies8mary: Oh. [17:03] spies8cory: If you're a Spy, it's alright. [17:03] spies8cory: I like Spies. [17:03] spies8cory: We can work a deal out. [17:03] spies8cory: All you need to do is admit to it. [17:03] spies8cory: Simon. We can make a deal. [17:04] spies8mary: I'm wondering why you stopped hunting aggressively after the first day when you seemed so interested. [17:04] spies8mary: Your Isaac vote was gut-based. [17:04] spies8cory: Indeed. [17:05] spies8mary: You seemed half-interested about the Jenny case. [17:05] spies8mary: You didn't post much against Magalie, but are interested in who didn't vote for her. [17:06] spies8mary: You seem to follow along with what I suggest. [17:06] spies8cory: I was actually very interested in the Jenny case [17:07] spies8cory: You are actually what I consider to be the main reason I considered voting her. [17:07] spies8mary: I think it's a very good case. [17:07] spies8cory: What you said about her going quiet in the group chat I hadn't heard from anyone else. [17:07] spies8cory: Several people were surprised to hear it. [17:07] spies8mary: Have you settled into a pattern of thought about Chance and Claude? [17:08] spies8cory: Lol. I still think Chance is the bad guy there. [17:08] spies8mary: I agree. [17:08] spies8cory: He was asking me weird questions earlier [17:09] spies8mary: Did I already discuss Chance's lack of suspicions yesterday with you? [17:09] spies8cory: spies8chance: so what do you think about the whole doctor save business? spies8chance: i actually meant to bring this up a while ago, and keep forgetting - just why was gabriel imprisoned, anyway? spies8chance: yeah, but he wasn't a major case pusher on alex, was he? i thought that was tina, and nita. [17:09] spies8cory: Why the fuck is he asking me about this. It has no relevance. [17:10] spies8cory: You might have. It's one of the reasons I suspect him [17:10] spies8cory: He has been so hard against Claude so long that he hadn't looked at anyone else until yesterday. [17:10] spies8cory: Then he brings up you, Magalie and I think Gertrude [17:10] spies8mary: No. [17:10] spies8cory: No. [17:11] spies8cory: .oN [17:11] spies8mary: claude, mary, jasmine, one of jenny/rondak, and two of the republicans that i haven't really looked at. [17:11] spies8mary: That is his list. [17:12] spies8cory: As of now? [17:12] spies8cory: That's his answer to the 6 spies question [17:12] spies8mary: No, as of yesterday. [17:12] spies8cory: Ok, he was wavering on Magalie [17:12] spies8mary: He couldn't give any evidence on Jenny or Rondak. [17:13] spies8mary: Switched off of me right as I chatted him up. [17:13] spies8mary: And didn't have Magalie on his list. [17:13] spies8cory: Why did he not list Magalie there? [17:13] spies8cory: He voted her. [17:13] spies8mary: Have you seen anyone protecting him? [17:13] spies8cory: Chance? Hmmmm [17:13] spies8cory: Cinnamyn I think [17:13] spies8mary: I agree. [17:13] spies8cory: I need to check over my logs since it's been a while [17:13] spies8cory: But she seemed to like Claude as a Spy more than Chance. [17:14] spies8mary: Not for a long time. [17:14] spies8mary: She has flopped a lot on them. [17:14] spies8cory: spies8cinnamyn: im kind of thinkin' both claude n' chance r eitha both spiez o' both citz [17:14] spies8mary: Most recently said the fighting makes them both look like Citizens. [17:14] spies8cory: 06/27 [17:14] spies8mary: Yes. [17:15] spies8mary: im startin' 2 think dat u 2 iz both citz. [17:15] spies8cory: spies8cinnamyn: iz claudez case on chance n e better at dis point.? all he ever doez iz try 2 disprove chance [17:15] spies8cory: When I asked her, she said she thought Claude was a tunnel visioning cit [17:16] spies8mary: When? [17:16] spies8cory: Same date [17:16] spies8cory: I'll look further back. [17:16] spies8mary: I asked her about her suspicions of Lilith and she said she's ignored her since the split. [17:16] spies8cory: spies8cinnamyn: chance..i want 2 think he iz tryin' 2 help out but my da proof sez othawize [17:17] spies8cory: spies8cinnamyn: i dont lyke him contradictin' hisself [17:17] spies8cory: 06/19 [17:17] spies8cory: spies8cinnamyn: but deez ppl crazy. im votin' margot and may b chance and imma leave it at dat [17:17] spies8cory: 06/19 [17:18] spies8cory: So maybe I was wrong about her protecting him [17:18] spies8cory: But she definitely went from thinking he was a potential Spy to thinking "either both spies or both citizens" [17:18] spies8cory: AKA fence sitting [17:18] spies8cory: Hmmm who else [17:18] spies8mary: To "they're both Cits now". [17:18] spies8cory: They both can't be Spies in my opinion [17:19] spies8cory: Not unless they're top of the line and planned this whole thing out [17:19] spies8mary: That wouldn't make sense. [17:19] spies8cory: Nita didn't seem to like my idea of Chance being worse than Claude [17:19] spies8mary: Why? [17:20] spies8cory: I told her one of the main reasons I didn't like Claude as a Spy is because he has been so reckless. Between targeting me day one, to staking his life on Camilla's exile [17:20] spies8cory: She argued that his role claim was his out card [17:20] spies8cory: That he could have done all of that knowing that he could claim at any time and get himself off the hook [17:21] spies8cory: However [17:21] spies8cory: I think she suspects Chance as well [17:21] spies8mary: What do you think of Gertrude? [17:21] spies8cory: Totally playing the game of self image [17:21] spies8cory: Look at what she said to me the other day [17:21] spies8cory: I don't think I showed you this. Lol. [17:22] spies8cory: spies8gertrude: I'd like to vote for Rondak or Jenny. spies8gertrude: Or magalie. spies8gertrude: Actually, I don't think I want to vote for Magalie.. spies8gertrude: Because if she's Exiled and flips Citizen, I look even worse spies8gertrude: Yes, but I feel like she's going to be the one who's Exiled. spies8gertrude: Meaning that I feel like voting anyone else would put me in the minority. [17:23] spies8mary: Right. [17:23] spies8mary: I think she might be making a point of saying that to people. [17:23] spies8cory: What do you think her motive might be? [17:24] spies8mary: Well, she gets a layer of protection over her votes. [17:24] spies8mary: She can always blame them on someone else. Her Survivor persona. [17:24] spies8cory: I have trouble telling if she just wants to last or if she is a Spy. [17:24] spies8cory: Her play definitely is scummy. [17:24] spies8mary: Her votes haven't looked terrible so far. [17:24] spies8mary: The Camilla one was the bad one. [17:24] spies8cory: Scummy in the sense that she is playing selfishly [17:25] spies8mary: The Margot vote was ok. [17:25] spies8mary: And the Magalie vote, she seemed pretty concerned with image. [17:25] spies8mary: In retrospect, I bet you wish you'd voted Chance at the first exile. [17:27] spies8cory: I suppose. [17:27] spies8mary: Would you vote for him now? [17:27] spies8cory: I don't think my vote on Camilla was terrible. [17:27] spies8cory: Over Camilla, if I could redo it? [17:27] spies8cory: Or this episode? [17:27] spies8mary: No. [17:28] spies8mary: This episode. [17:28] spies8cory: I'd definitely consider him. He was in my top four [17:28] spies8cory: From last episode. [17:29] spies8mary: I hope Claude doesn't use his power. [17:29] spies8cory: He hinted that it might not work [17:29] spies8mary: Hold on. Tina just chatted me up [17:45] spies8cory: Tina? [17:45] spies8cory: Who is that? [17:46] spies8mary: Princess says you're silly. [17:47] spies8cory: Yeah, well, Princess says a lot of things. [17:56] spies8mary: Princess says she's sleepy./ [17:57] spies8mary: I think I'll peel an onion for dinner and then go to bed. [17:58] spies8mary: Good night.
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Post by Mary on Jul 4, 2010 13:58:44 GMT -6
[11:40] Spies8Awohali: You have missed many things this afternoon, Mary. [11:40] spies8mary: Oh? [11:40] spies8mary: Fireworks? [11:40] Spies8Awohali: Indeed... Firstly, you are aware that Nita was 3rd party and that Jenny has known about that since before the first failed Imprisonment? (And yes, many fireworks, as well.) [11:40] spies8mary: Yes. [11:41] spies8mary: I read the group chat from last night. [11:42] spies8mary: Can you fill me in please or is there a new group chat to read? [11:42] Spies8Awohali: Well, since then... Claude used his role on Allan, and Allan is saying that he can use the role next episode, which confirms the existence of both roles if they are both used next episode, assuming we trust who they were used on. But is also interesting, is the topic we were tryingh to leave when you entered. [11:42] Spies8Awohali: Which is that Allan knows the Doctor. [11:42] spies8mary: That could be good or bad. [11:43] Spies8Awohali: Well, I am hesitant on speaking further about it, even though I suspect that a Spy, Jenny, was in the room when he said it, and I suspect you less than most. [11:43] spies8mary: Did Allan say the doctor's name publicly? [11:43] Spies8Awohali: He did. [11:43] spies8mary: That's definitely not good. [11:44] spies8mary: Who was in the room? [11:44] Spies8Awohali: No, it is not... [11:44] Spies8Awohali: Everyone currently in the room, other than you. [11:44] spies8mary: Chance. [11:44] spies8mary: Jenny. [11:44] spies8mary: Two very likely spies. [11:44] Spies8Awohali: Yes... In other words, the Spies almsot certainly know. [11:44] spies8mary: I'm less sure about Jenny after the way she played Nita's situation. [11:44] spies8mary: Why did Allan out the doctor? [11:45] Spies8Awohali: It is an odd situation for anyone to be in, for sure. [11:45] Spies8Awohali: The Doctor is someone who has been eliminated. [11:45] spies8mary: Isn't he worried about an Imprisonment? [11:45] spies8mary: Oh. [11:45] spies8mary: Well that's not quite as bad, let me think. [11:45] spies8mary: I guess that means the Spies might be able to figure out they don't have to worry about a doctor anymore. [11:46] spies8mary: Unless Allan is lying. [11:46] spies8mary: I've seen Allan as somewhat of a Citizen unless Jenny comes up spy. [11:46] spies8mary: How about you? [11:47] spies8mary: His play is not very Citizenish. [11:48] spies8mary: Should I say anything in group chat or is there still anyone to conceal from? [11:48] Spies8Awohali: My deepest apologies for that momentary absence, I had to answer the door. [11:48] spies8mary: That's ok. [11:49] Spies8Awohali: And yes, that is what I explained to him in IM's; the knowledge alone that the Doctor is dead helps the SPies slightly. [11:49] spies8mary: Hopefully he's faking. [11:49] spies8mary: That would be clever. [11:49] Spies8Awohali: I see Allan as a likely Citizen, but, like you, if Jenny is a Spy, I would be more suspicious of him by default. [11:50] Spies8Awohali: It would be very clever indeed, but I have little hopes of that, given his game play so far. [11:50] spies8mary: Did Jenny ever give a full list of Nita's goals? [11:50] spies8mary: I don't understand two things. [11:50] spies8mary: Why she wouldn't out Nita immediately if Jenny's a Citizen. [11:50] Spies8Awohali: She has not, to my knowledge, I meant to ask her about that earlier, but we got stuck on other questions regarding why she would trust Nita enough not to out her. [11:50] Spies8Awohali: That is a question I asked hger several times... [11:51] spies8mary: And why she would come out honestly after the fact if she's a Spy. [11:51] Spies8Awohali: spies8jenny (1:25:59 PM): After much pointless negotiating about me not imprisoning her, and her saying she wouldn't post a case on me even though I told her i wouldn't have minded if she did, I had eventually convinced her to focus on helping with the cit tasks and going after spies. She was quite obviously doing that, and she said a few times that she didn't really trust any of the other players to keep her role a secret, so didn't want to tell anyone else about it. spies8jenny (1:26:30 PM): So if she was helping the cits out anyways, and had no real contact with spies, why bother outing it? If she started doing things that were suspicious maybe, but that never came up. [11:51] spies8mary: Why do you suspect Jenny? [11:51] spies8mary: Sorry, wrong window. [11:52] Spies8Awohali: That is quite all right, though I would be glad to answer that question. [11:52] spies8mary: That's a terrible font for you. [11:52] spies8mary: It's very 1999. [11:52] Spies8Awohali: Should we alert Jenny that her font is out of style? [11:54] spies8mary: Yes. [11:54] Spies8Awohali: She will be heartbroken, which is OK if she is a Spy. [11:56] spies8mary: If the doctor is eliminated, it must have been Gabriel. [11:57] spies8mary: The only other options would be Margot or Camilla, but you'd think they would have claimed. [11:57] Spies8Awohali: Indeed, a wise deduction. [11:57] Spies8Awohali: Allan says that he only found this out last night, though. [11:57] spies8mary: Wow. [11:57] spies8mary: That's weird. [11:57] Spies8Awohali: Which, obviously Gabriel was dead last night. [11:57] spies8mary: So Gabriel saved someone and told them. [11:57] Spies8Awohali: He says that he was told Gabriel slipped his role to someone and was eliminated due to that. [11:58] spies8mary: And that person just came to Allan with the information. [11:58] Spies8Awohali: Apparently, after waiting until last night. [11:58] Spies8Awohali: I have a theory no that, but it is rather farfetched. [11:58] Spies8Awohali: on* [11:58] spies8mary: Has Claude's role confirmed Allan's role to be an actual role? [11:59] Spies8Awohali: It will next episode, assuming that he is not eliminated before then. [11:59] spies8mary: Or will we not know that until next episode? Or did Claude use it on Owen? [11:59] Spies8Awohali: Claude used it on Allan, limiting him to voting either Getrude, Isaac, or Chance (as a side not, I was under the impression that Claude's abilities rotated, but this was his power last episode) [12:00] spies8mary: A lot to consider. [12:00] spies8mary: What do you think of Allan? Does he seem honest to you? [12:01] Spies8Awohali: Today was the first private conversation I have had with him, and he does seem to be so far. He seems to be inexperienced, as well. [12:01] Spies8Awohali: Not brand new, but perhaps not a complete veteran [12:01] spies8mary: What do you think of Jenny now? [12:02] spies8mary: It's odd that I see her as slightly more Citizen for claiming Nita was certain she was a Spy. [12:02] Spies8Awohali: I waver, but ultimately I struggle to see how a Citizen could have watched Nita push the No Exile hard enough that people were actually considering it... without saying who she was. [12:02] spies8mary: We ended up being very correct on that issue. [12:02] Spies8Awohali: I do see why you would see this as a point in Jenny's favor. I do as well. [12:03] spies8mary: I thought it was very odd she was arguing against us. [12:03] spies8mary: Now I know why. She must have had a goal to fulfill. [12:03] spies8mary: Has Jenny listed all of Nita's goals yet? [12:03] Spies8Awohali: That is what I believe as well, although Jenny assured me that Nita did not have a goal of a No Exile vote. [12:03] Spies8Awohali: She logged offline before I could ask her. [12:23] spies8mary: This is not logically consistent. [12:23] Spies8Awohali: She has maintained that Nita thought she was a Spy the entire time... But that Nita agreed to help the Citizens with Jenny..... [12:23] Spies8Awohali: Surely that is 100% logically sound! [12:23] spies8mary: Right. [12:24] spies8mary: It can't be the true story. [12:25] spies8mary: Would a Spy imprison Nita in Jenny's situation? [12:25] Spies8Awohali: I do not see how it could be, either. I still waver due to the situation, but Jenny does not come off acting wisely. [12:25] Spies8Awohali: Considering how she immediately stated that she knew about it, it could have been an ill-conceived plan to make herself look better. [12:25] spies8mary: The Spies imprisoned Nita. [12:26] spies8mary: If Jenny is a Spy, this was all carefully considered. [12:26] spies8mary: What the impact would be, what stories to tell afterwards. [12:26] spies8mary: How it would make Jenny look. [12:26] Spies8Awohali: Well, Jasmine and Magalie instantly jumped on Jenny and suspected her, when she caimed. [12:26] Spies8Awohali: claimed* [12:27] spies8mary: And you and I suspect her a little less for claiming. [12:27] spies8mary: On first glance. [12:27] Spies8Awohali: Indeed... First glance only, sadly. It could be an attempt to bus Jenny while hopefully actually saving her from the Citizens [12:28] spies8mary: It's an amazing coincidence that this is one of the four main people I've been thinking are Spies. [12:29] spies8mary: I thought the case regarding her and Alexei was excellent, and now this is distracting from it. [12:30] Spies8Awohali: Right, and Jenny has also been garnering more and more suspicion from others as well. Hambone suspected her, I suspected her. [12:30] Spies8Awohali: I believe Hambone may have made the case you're referring to concerning her and Alexei [12:30] spies8mary: I did all my own research. What did Hambone say? [12:31] spies8mary: When I asked him a bit ago all he said was she roleclaimed for Allan and [12:31] spies8mary: Nita suspected Jenny and [12:32] spies8mary: spies8hambone: and jenny openly states she searches for citizens, not spies spies8hambone: uhmmm? -__- spies8hambone: so yeah that sums up some of my case on her [12:33] Spies8Awohali: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=794[12:33] Spies8Awohali: This is the case. He did not state it as well as you did, but he alludes to the fact that Jenny was not interested in the Alexei case. [12:34] spies8mary: Ah yes, I've seen that before. [12:34] spies8mary: I guess he made that leap earlier. [12:35] Spies8Awohali: Indeed, though I do not think he realized that he had done so, nor did he provide the examples that you did. [12:35] Spies8Awohali: I think it is OK to assume that Jenny was aware of the danger she would be facing this episode, though. [12:36] spies8mary: Chance just told me Gabriel was the doctor. [12:36] Spies8Awohali: He is of the opinion that there's no point in hiding that information. [12:37] spies8mary: spies8mary: You are going to say that Nita told the Spies Gabriel was the doctor. spies8chance: specifically jenny. spies8mary: Wow. spies8chance: but yes, that is my theory. [12:39] Spies8Awohali: Indeed, he told me of that theory several minutes ago. [12:39] spies8mary: I'm still trying to process it. [12:39] spies8mary: What if Allan's lying? Which would make sense in two cases. [12:40] spies8mary: 1) He's a Spy. 2) He's protecting the real doctor. [12:54] Spies8Awohali: I apologize, I again got distracted. I must soon leave for 4th of July activities... And it is possible that Allan is lying, yes. I think we must know how smart he is before the 2nd is a possibility. [12:54] spies8mary: I hope you have a fun holiday. [12:54] spies8mary: I might go get a tan. It will take about 45 seconds. [12:55] Spies8Awohali: Ha! Well, at least you have the option. My skin does not allow of me to choose to be untanned. [12:55] spies8mary: I will look like a lobster the next time you see me. [12:56] Spies8Awohali: I will be careful not to carry a knife or fork with me, in that case, so you have nothing to fear. [12:56] spies8mary: That was almost funny. [12:57] spies8mary: One of these days you'll get me. [12:57] Spies8Awohali: I am getting closer to my goal; the laugh is only a matter of time, now. [12:57] spies8mary: It's been 20 years now since I last laughed. [12:57] Spies8Awohali: I am fighting against the odds, then, but I shall be victorious. [12:57] spies8mary: Maybe we'll chat more later then. [12:57] spies8mary: Have a good afternoon, Awohali. [12:58] Spies8Awohali: Indeed, and you as well, Mary.
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Post by Mary on Jul 4, 2010 14:00:39 GMT -6
[12:29] spies8mary: Are you there? [12:31] spies8chance: yes ma'am. [12:31] spies8mary: Hi. [12:31] spies8mary: What do you think of Jenny? [12:32] spies8chance: i have a theory but people i've gone to with it don't want me to post it. [12:32] spies8chance: but i think she's a spy. [12:32] spies8mary: Can you tell me or is there a reason not to? [12:33] spies8chance: hmm. [12:33] spies8chance: yeah, i can tell you. [12:33] spies8chance: i'll just have to use slightly different wording. [12:33] spies8chance: okay. [12:34] spies8chance: for the following case to make sense, assume the following. [12:34] spies8chance: 1 - gabriel was the doctor. [12:34] spies8chance: 2 - gabriel saved nita at imprisonment 2. [12:34] spies8chance: 3 - gabriel contacted nita. [12:34] spies8chance: none of those are real stretches, are they? [12:35] spies8mary: I've inferred from what I've heard that Gabriel was the doctor. [12:35] spies8mary: That's the topic you guys said was bad, right? [12:35] spies8chance: yeah, allan says he knows gabriel was the doctor. [12:35] spies8mary: I think 1 and 2 make sense. [12:35] spies8mary: And probably 3, yes. Why? [12:36] spies8chance: okay. [12:36] spies8chance: did you expect gabriel to be imprisoned? [12:36] spies8chance: because it came as a complete surprise to me. [12:36] spies8chance: i would have expected nita again, or tina, or someone like cinnamyn. [12:36] spies8mary: You are going to say that Nita told the Spies Gabriel was the doctor. [12:37] spies8chance: specifically jenny. [12:37] spies8mary: Wow. [12:37] spies8chance: but yes, that is my theory. [12:37] spies8chance: you catch on fast. :-P [12:38] spies8mary: What if Allan is lying. [12:38] spies8mary: Why would he just say who the doctor is or was? [12:38] spies8chance: what if he is? [12:38] spies8chance: i thought up this theory last night, before allan confirmed that gabriel was the doctor. [12:38] spies8mary: What if someone alive is the doctor, then your theory is wrong. [12:38] spies8mary: Or if Allan's a Spy. [12:38] spies8chance: if someone else is the doctor, why did nita get imprisoned? [12:39] spies8chance: and allan confirming that gabriel was the doctor really has nothing to do with the theory, but it is a nice supporting concept. [12:39] spies8chance: like i said, i wrote it last night. [12:39] spies8chance: you said yourself that none of my assumptions were stretches, and that was before bringing allan into it. [12:40] spies8mary: I think if Allan is telling the truth, it makes perfect sense. [12:40] spies8mary: Still thinking. [12:44] spies8chance: i'm getting some resistance to actually posting it because it mentions that gabriel was the doctor. [12:50] spies8mary: Who knows that at this point? [12:50] spies8chance: 'that'? [12:50] spies8mary: The only reason not to tell is if there are zero Spies that know. [12:50] spies8mary: spies8chance: i'm getting some resistance to actually posting it because it mentions that gabriel was the doctor. [12:51] spies8chance: no no no, i mean, who knows what at this point? [12:51] spies8chance: who knows that it mentions that gabriel was the doctor? [12:51] spies8chance: i'm trying to understand your question. :-P [12:51] spies8mary: Who knows that Allan said Gabriel is the doctor? [12:51] spies8chance: ah. let me check. [12:51] spies8mary: You, me, Awohali. [12:52] spies8chance: tina, hambone, jenny.
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Post by Mary on Jul 4, 2010 14:11:55 GMT -6
[11:39] spies8hambone: ;-) [11:39] spies8mary: Hi. We haven't talked nearly enough. [11:40] spies8hambone: I know [11:40] spies8hambone: its bad [11:40] spies8mary: Who are your suspects right now? [11:40] spies8hambone: Jenny [11:40] spies8hambone: Claude [11:40] spies8hambone: hbu [11:40] spies8mary: Why Claude? [11:41] spies8hambone: i dont think his role is a citizens [11:41] spies8mary: Why not? [11:41] spies8hambone: there should be a mafia role out there somehwere [11:41] spies8hambone: and we're yet to see one [11:41] spies8hambone: his role is for personal purposes [11:41] spies8mary: That's not a good reason. [11:41] spies8mary: How is it for personal purposes? [11:41] spies8hambone: because look what he just did [11:41] spies8hambone: allan can only vote for chance or isaac [11:41] spies8hambone: this week [11:42] spies8hambone: thats not rly helping the team [11:42] spies8hambone: its helping himself [11:42] spies8hambone: i realize its not an amazing case [11:42] spies8hambone: i dont wanna exile him and find out he WAS a citizen [11:42] spies8hambone: but my main suspect is jenny, so [11:43] spies8mary: Why do you think Claude used his role on Allan? [11:43] spies8hambone: to prove it to allan [11:43] spies8hambone: that its real [11:43] spies8hambone: and so allan can prove his is too [11:43] spies8mary: I don't find that terribly spyish. [11:43] spies8mary: Do you? [11:43] spies8hambone: if he wants to make himself look better [11:46] spies8mary: Awohali is telling me Allan said the doctor's name in public? [11:47] spies8hambone: yup [11:47] spies8hambone: im glad he told u and not me :-) [11:47] spies8hambone: u should bring it up in the chat [11:47] spies8hambone: say he told u [11:48] spies8mary: What do you think of Chance? [11:48] spies8hambone: uh [11:48] spies8hambone: i dont rly know [11:49] spies8hambone: i havent spoken to him enough rly [11:49] spies8mary: He's a major suspect. That surprises me that you wouldn't look into it. [11:49] spies8mary: You don't know anything about him? [11:49] spies8hambone: not much know [11:49] spies8hambone: no [11:49] spies8hambone: its confusing [11:49] spies8hambone: ppl say he words stuff weirdly? [11:49] spies8hambone: i dont get it [11:51] spies8mary: He suspects Claude. [11:51] spies8mary: You two would probably get along great. [11:51] spies8hambone: we do lol [11:51] spies8mary: Why do you suspect Jenny? [11:52] spies8hambone: omg so many reasons [11:52] spies8mary: I would like to hear them. [11:52] spies8hambone: roleclaiming for allan [11:53] spies8hambone: and now we find out that nita suspected jenny so much that she told her that she was 3rd party since she thought jenny = spy which = jenny saving nita from imprisonment [11:53] spies8hambone: so dane posts tellin the doc to save nita from impris. and bam, no one goes home [11:54] spies8hambone: and nita told jenny her missions [11:54] spies8hambone: one of which was to get someone to roleclaim [11:55] spies8hambone: so jenny roleclaims allan even though savannah had 3 more votes [11:55] spies8hambone: and of course we cant ask savannah what happened [11:55] spies8hambone: cuz shes dead [11:55] spies8hambone: just like we cant talk to nita cuz shes dead -__- [11:56] spies8hambone: and jenny openly states she searches for citizens, not spies [11:56] spies8hambone: uhmmm? -__- [11:57] spies8hambone: so yeah that sums up some of my case on her [11:57] spies8hambone: MARY u here [11:59] spies8mary: Yes. [11:59] spies8hambone: so what do u thnk [11:59] spies8mary: I suspect her for other reasons. [11:59] spies8mary: Those are ok. [11:59] spies8mary: Did you watch her interact with Alexei at all? [12:00] spies8hambone: well she didnt vote for him [12:00] spies8hambone: and she wasnt planning to [12:00] spies8hambone: she was the first vote for Z [12:00] spies8hambone: she voted days before the vote was due [12:00] spies8hambone: and never budged [12:00] spies8mary: Yes, I noticed that. [12:01] spies8mary: Many times, she was shown facts about Alexei and ignored them. [12:01] spies8hambone: mhm [12:02] spies8mary: What do you think of Tina? [12:03] spies8hambone: i dont suspect her [12:03] spies8hambone: what do u think [12:07] spies8hambone: yo [12:07] spies8hambone: can u mention [12:07] spies8hambone: what awohali told u [12:07] spies8hambone: or no [12:07] spies8mary: I'll ask him. [12:07] spies8hambone: no [12:07] spies8hambone: dont ask him [12:07] spies8mary: Ok. [12:07] spies8hambone: and i didnt tell u to say it [12:08] spies8hambone: itll make him look bad [12:08] spies8mary: Right. [12:08] spies8hambone: tina will go nuts on him [12:08] spies8hambone: ill show u the chat [12:08] spies8hambone: its intense [12:08] spies8mary: Well, he trusts me I think so I don't want to wreck that. [12:08] spies8mary: Is the chat not being posted publicly? [12:08] spies8hambone: no [12:08] spies8hambone: jenny is skipping over it [12:09] spies8mary: You might want to skip posting it in HQ. [12:09] spies8mary: So everyone seems truly ignorant of it. [12:09] spies8hambone: yeah [12:09] spies8hambone: i was thinkin about only tellin u and cyn [12:09] spies8hambone: cuz the others are dumbfucks [12:09] spies8hambone: and theyll reveal it [12:09] spies8mary: I told Awohali I figured out it was Gabriel. [12:09] spies8hambone: how [12:09] spies8hambone: well ur lying obvs [12:10] spies8mary: Only two impris are Nita and Gabriel. [12:11] spies8hambone: heres what happened [12:11] spies8hambone: allan says he figured out yesterday who the doctor is [12:11] spies8hambone: he says the doc is already dead, as everyone yells at him telling him to shush up [12:11] spies8hambone: he says it was Gabe [12:11] spies8hambone: which is a lie [12:11] spies8hambone: since Gabe couldnt save himself [12:11] spies8mary: Allan truly believes that. [12:11] spies8hambone: no he doesnt [12:11] spies8hambone: allans the doctor [12:11] spies8hambone: he aint no copycat [12:11] spies8mary: No. [12:12] spies8hambone: and if its not him [12:12] spies8hambone: its tina [12:12] spies8mary: Allan believes it 100%. [12:12] spies8hambone: who told him i wonder [12:12] spies8hambone: the doctor prolly told him [12:12] spies8mary: Savannah. [12:12] spies8hambone: how savannah [12:12] spies8mary: Messenger. [12:12] spies8hambone: when he says he found out yesterday [12:12] spies8mary: Message from the dead. [12:12] spies8mary: Don't say anything. [12:12] spies8hambone: i wont [12:12] spies8mary: You know nothing about this. [12:12] spies8hambone: but explain [12:12] spies8hambone: ok [12:13] spies8mary: Savannah sent Allan a message from the Loser's Lounge saying Gabriel's the doctor. [12:14] spies8mary: It's possible that Allan knows the real doctor, but I don't know. [12:15] spies8hambone: hm [12:16] spies8hambone: thats weird [12:18] spies8mary: I don't think Jenny will fight back if an Exile is led on her. [12:19] spies8hambone: lol [12:19] spies8hambone: she hasnt against me so far [12:48] spies8mary: Has Chance told you his Jenny doctor-killing theory yet? [12:49] spies8mary: He told Awohali and me. [12:50] spies8hambone: no [12:50] spies8hambone: tell me [12:52] spies8hambone: the doctor is def still alive [12:52] spies8mary: Why? [12:54] spies8hambone: cuz [12:54] spies8hambone: who would it be [12:54] spies8hambone: it aint gabe [12:54] spies8hambone: it aint nita [12:54] spies8hambone: it aint savannah [12:54] spies8hambone: i doubt it was themba [12:56] spies8mary: I still think it's an original Democrat. [12:56] spies8mary: Because whoever it is never met Gabriel. [12:56] spies8hambone: we dont know that [12:59] spies8mary: Have you gotten to know Cory at all? [12:59] spies8hambone: yeah a bit [12:59] spies8mary: What do you think of him? [13:00] spies8hambone: idk [13:00] spies8hambone: he agrees with most i say [13:00] spies8hambone: he thinsk im smart [13:01] spies8mary: He doesn't seem to suspect many people anymore. [13:01] spies8mary: Just Jenny. And maybe Magalie. And maybe Isaac. [13:01] spies8mary: Who has he talked to you about? [13:02] spies8hambone: jenny i think [13:02] spies8mary: Did he suspect her? [13:02] spies8hambone: yea i think so [13:02] spies8hambone: for the next impris. we gotta kill allan [13:03] spies8mary: I think so. [13:03] spies8hambone: def. [13:03] spies8mary: I think people are coming to him with roles and information. [13:03] spies8hambone: yeah [13:03] spies8hambone: hes gotta go [13:03] spies8hambone: and hes sticking up for jenny way too much [13:03] spies8hambone: we cant have that [13:03] spies8mary: I will see you later. Have a good day, Hambone. [13:03] spies8hambone: wait [13:04] spies8mary: Ok. [13:04] spies8hambone: did isaac [13:04] spies8hambone: use his role on allan [13:04] spies8hambone: like a dumbass [13:04] spies8mary: I don't know. [13:04] spies8hambone: if he did [13:04] spies8hambone: im a kill him [13:04] spies8hambone: cuz if he did then allan knows another role [13:04] spies8mary: You can't kill him. [13:04] spies8hambone: and will tell select cits [13:04] spies8mary: But you can vote for him. [13:04] spies8hambone: do u know what i mean tho [13:04] spies8mary: Yes. [13:04] spies8hambone: us spies are so unorganized [13:05] spies8hambone: if isaac rly did that [13:05] spies8hambone: then hes retarded [13:05] spies8mary: You made a good point about that. [13:05] spies8mary: I think everyone read it. [13:05] spies8mary: I doubt he used it on Allan. [13:05] spies8hambone: i dont [13:05] spies8hambone: i think we gotta kill allan and chance [13:05] spies8mary: Let's get a little organized in the forums. [13:05] spies8hambone: yeah [13:05] spies8hambone: we need to [13:06] spies8hambone: honestly [13:06] spies8hambone: i dont think we can [13:06] spies8hambone: until law isaac and mag are dead [13:06] spies8hambone: which will be soon [13:06] spies8mary: But don't tell anyone about the gabriel doctor thing. [13:06] spies8hambone: hes not the doc [13:06] spies8hambone: its not possible [13:06] spies8mary: Let them be totally surprised. [13:06] spies8hambone: the doctor cant save himself [13:06] spies8mary: Yes but don't tell them that's what's going around. [13:06] spies8hambone: i wont [13:06] spies8mary: Ok good. [13:06] spies8hambone: i think u should slip it to one person [13:06] spies8hambone: what awohali told u [13:06] spies8hambone: someone who was in the chat and already knows [13:07] spies8hambone: like tina [13:07] spies8mary: I might. [13:07] spies8hambone: u should [13:07] spies8hambone: srsly [13:07] spies8mary: I know. [13:07] spies8hambone: awohali is viewed as pure cit [13:07] spies8mary: Yes. [13:07] spies8hambone: hes got nutin on him [13:07] spies8hambone: do it when u can [13:07] spies8hambone: today [13:07] spies8mary: I don't think we'll ever exile him. [13:07] spies8mary: So I'd rather use him as a resource. [13:08] spies8hambone: well hes gonna have to go sooner or later [13:08] spies8mary: Look for the list of our 6 more misexiles. [13:08] spies8hambone: right now ive got him wrapped around me [13:08] spies8mary: I don't think he'll be on it. [13:08] spies8hambone: ive got loads of ppl with me [13:08] spies8hambone: on my jenny case [13:08] spies8hambone: but once that ends [13:08] spies8hambone: i dont know what to do [13:09] spies8mary: Jenny, Chance, Jasmine, Gertrude, Broderick, Stephanie, Rondak, Claude [13:09] spies8mary: We just need 6 of those. [13:09] spies8hambone: mhm [13:09] spies8hambone: it wont happen tho [13:09] spies8mary: Two are probably masons. [13:09] spies8hambone: isaac will go [13:09] spies8hambone: before then [13:09] spies8hambone: as will mags prolly [13:09] spies8mary: Yes, but we still only need to exile 6 Citizens to win. [13:10] spies8mary: Only 5 if you and I stay out of trouble. [13:10] spies8mary: Only 4 if you, Cinn and I. [13:10] spies8hambone: oh wow [13:10] spies8hambone: im not gonna get caught [13:10] spies8hambone: they aint gettin me [13:11] spies8mary: See you later. [13:11] spies8mary: Keep up the good work.
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Post by Mary on Jul 5, 2010 10:58:05 GMT -6
[09:52] spies8mary: Are you afraid of needles? [09:52] spies8dane: AAAAAH [09:52] spies8dane: yes\ [09:52] spies8mary: That's ok. [09:52] spies8mary: I don't have any. [09:53] spies8mary: Right now. [09:53] spies8dane: also, talking to two people at once already [09:53] spies8mary: Ok.
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Post by Mary on Jul 5, 2010 12:35:30 GMT -6
[11:01] spies8hambone: hi [11:01] spies8mary: Hi. [11:01] spies8hambone: im only gonna be [11:01] spies8hambone: on [11:01] spies8hambone: for a minute [11:01] spies8hambone: but i figured it out [11:01] spies8hambone: the dcotor [11:01] spies8mary: Ok. [11:01] spies8hambone: Okay [11:01] spies8hambone: well Savnnah can talk in the losers longue [11:01] spies8hambone: and still send messages [11:01] spies8hambone: GABRIEL [11:01] spies8hambone: was saved round1 [11:02] spies8hambone: and would know who the doctyor is [11:02] spies8hambone: they obviously came to him at some point [11:02] spies8hambone: cuz he was there during original teams [11:02] spies8hambone: and swapped teams [11:02] spies8hambone: at some point the doc came to him and he is SMART so he was very quiet about it [11:02] spies8hambone: so he told Savnnah [11:02] spies8hambone: to tell Allan that the doctor was him [11:02] spies8mary: Maybe. [11:02] spies8hambone: so we'll stop going after the real doc [11:02] spies8hambone: which was someone on one of his teams [11:03] spies8mary: You should join the group chat. [11:03] spies8hambone: ok [11:05] spies8hambone: im right [11:05] spies8hambone: make a list [11:05] spies8hambone: of the ppl who were on his team [11:05] spies8hambone: that are alive [11:05] spies8hambone: minus me law and isaac [11:05] spies8mary: It doesn't have to be on his team. [11:05] spies8hambone: why [11:05] spies8mary: It could just be he knows the doctor is alive. [11:05] spies8mary: And is protecting them. [11:05] spies8mary: It's not him, it's not Nita. [11:05] spies8mary: He knows that. [11:05] spies8hambone: no [11:05] spies8hambone: he knows he was saved [11:06] spies8mary: How do you know that? [11:06] spies8hambone: ask Sam if someone from the other team was allowed to PM him [11:06] spies8mary: Who told you that? [11:06] spies8hambone: what [11:07] spies8mary: spies8hambone: he knows he was saved [11:10] spies8hambone: gut [11:12] spies8hambone: ;-) [11:12] spies8mary: Have fun.
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Post by Mary on Jul 5, 2010 12:42:42 GMT -6
[10:19] spies8jenny: Don't want to interuppt the chat going on right now, so I'll just tell you here. [10:19] spies8jenny: 12:57] spies8dane: For nomination, it will probably be between Stephanie, Claude, and Zedekiah [12:57] spies8dane: and possibly chance
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Post by Mary on Jul 5, 2010 20:14:17 GMT -6
[16:17] spies8mary: Who would your three picks be right now, Awohali? [16:17] Spies8Awohali: At the moment? I would love to see Jenny and Magalie, for certain, and my third pick, I think would be Jasmine, to see if it could send a jolt through her, and see how she responds. [16:18] spies8mary: I think I might add Chance and Isaac to your list. [16:18] spies8mary: What do you think of them lately? [16:18] Spies8Awohali: Jenny has... Well, some very obvious points which we have already discussed. Magalie is quite frankly useless, and a suspicious useless person at that. Jasmine is a very dodgey and emotional player. She very rarely is willing to answer my questions, and usually gets away with it via dramatizing it. [16:19] Spies8Awohali: Chance is on a downward spiral in my eyes... Isaac, I have not spoken with since the final merger happened, I do not believe. If I have, it was uneventful or brief enough that I do not remember it. [16:19] Spies8Awohali: The fact that Chance seems to be all for a Jenny lynch makes me hesitate to go hard after her. [16:20] spies8mary: I'm not sure if I want to give Owen Magalie as a choice. [16:21] spies8mary: I feel like we get less information if we do that. [16:21] spies8mary: Maybe not though. [16:21] Spies8Awohali: You are correct, there, I am just fearful of Magalie slipping by without ever doing anything. She is clearly not going to be Imprisoned if Cit, and may get overlooked if a Spy. [16:22] spies8mary: People seem to be backing off her wagon. [16:22] spies8mary: But they also piled on very fast. [16:23] Spies8Awohali: Yes, which may mean that she is a misexile. I am still weighing the loss carefully... The loss of an opportunity to get a Spy versus the potential dangher that Magalie having a say deep in the game might bring. [16:24] spies8mary: What do you think of Claude lately? [16:24] Spies8Awohali: I worry in how Hambone speaks about Chance, by the way. I am starting to see the two of them as a potential pair, even though I at first saw Hambone as a potential strong Citizen read. [16:24] Spies8Awohali: He has been doing better; using his role on Allan as requested was a nice show of faith. [16:24] spies8mary: I was just going to say that. [16:24] Spies8Awohali: I still suspect him, but that was a step in the right direction for him. [16:24] spies8mary: He shows unusual resistance to the possibility that Chance is a Spy. [16:25] Spies8Awohali: You mean the possibility that Chance is a Cit? [16:26] spies8mary: spies8hambone: chance is on the same page as me tbh spies8hambone: he might be retarded spies8hambone: but i dont think hes mafia [16:27] Spies8Awohali: Oh, Hambone. My apologies, I had Claude in my mind. [16:27] Spies8Awohali: Yes, I do not see his reasoning behind that. A simple situation of them thinking similarly is not a good enough reason to write someone off. [16:35] spies8mary: It's been interesting to listen to Rondak today. [16:35] spies8mary: It's the first time I've seen him active. [16:35] Spies8Awohali: He seems,,,, To not care at all. [16:37] spies8mary: I think maybe I'll make dinner while the paint dries on the group chat wall. [16:38] spies8mary: Will you be around for a while? [16:38] Spies8Awohali: Unfortunately... No, I will be leaving soon, actually. I do not wish to. [16:38] spies8mary: Ok. [16:38] spies8mary: Maybe I will see you later then. [16:38] Spies8Awohali: I do hope; enjoy your dinner, Mary. [16:39] spies8mary: Thank you.
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Post by Mary on Jul 5, 2010 20:15:48 GMT -6
[18:13] spies8hambone: hey [18:13] spies8hambone: i have a rly crazy idea [18:54] spies8mary: What's up? [18:54] spies8mary: Does your crazy idea involve being able to list off more than one suspect next time I ask? [18:55] spies8hambone: brody is now added to my list [18:55] spies8hambone: k [18:55] spies8mary: Good. [18:55] spies8hambone: im not and never have been a good citizen [18:55] spies8mary: I know. [18:55] spies8mary: But you're doing great. [18:55] spies8hambone: how would u know [18:55] spies8mary: Sorry I almost got you in trouble there. [18:55] spies8hambone: so im playing like if i were a real citizen [18:55] spies8hambone: and ya u did get me in trouble [18:55] spies8hambone: but its ok [18:55] spies8hambone: i think i backed it up [18:55] spies8mary: Yes. [18:55] spies8hambone: i aint gonna bandwagon someone i dont wanna vote for [18:56] spies8hambone: isaacs goin home this week [18:56] spies8hambone: i bet [18:57] spies8hambone: anyway [18:57] spies8hambone: at some point down the road [18:57] spies8hambone: i plan on roleclaiming to one citizen [18:58] spies8hambone: Title: The Gravedigger [18:58] spies8mary: That's risky. There are a lot of roles out. [18:58] spies8hambone: not now [18:58] spies8hambone: a little bit from now [18:58] spies8hambone: id claim to whoever suspects me [18:58] spies8hambone: down the road [18:58] spies8hambone: to get them off my back
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Post by Mary on Jul 5, 2010 21:33:33 GMT -6
[19:17] spies8mary: What do you think of Owen? [19:17] spies8tina: He is pretty strong cit read for me. [19:17] spies8mary: Why? [19:17] spies8tina: Mostly how he handeled the whole Alexei thing. [19:17] spies8mary: He followed you and Nita, right? [19:17] spies8tina: He was the first person I brought it up to who was not trying to shoot it down or second guess it. [19:18] spies8tina: That was the night of it too, before it really was big. [19:18] spies8mary: Were either of his two reasons unique? [19:18] spies8tina: Let me pull the log, been a while. [19:18] spies8mary: It's in a post. One moment. [19:20] spies8mary: "passing of the torch to Gabriel." [19:20] spies8mary: "Fence sitting isn't really a scum-tell to me, but fence sitting while subtly pushing for things is rather suspect." [19:20] spies8mary: "And now with the Dane stuff -- it's like he's finding the opposing lynch options and basing his thoughts that way." [19:21] spies8mary: He's looked decent to me. Owen, that is. [19:22] spies8mary: I haven't had a word with him at all yet. [19:22] spies8tina: Are you looking at the one where I first brought it up to him and Kiara #1? [19:22] spies8mary: No. [19:22] spies8tina: I am not sure if Jenny was posting them at that point. [19:22] spies8tina: Ah ok. I talked with both about it the night it happened. [19:22] spies8mary: Did he sound like he'd been already thinking it? [19:23] spies8mary: Or did he simply acknowledge your points? [19:23] spies8mary: Because his points are all from a chat that happened days earlier, I think. [19:23] spies8mary: So I'm curious to know why it took until after you and Nita made cases for him to bring up the three things he noticed. [19:23] spies8tina: I am allowed to send group chat logs with 3+ people right? [19:24] spies8mary: Yes. [19:24] spies8tina: Ok, Owen Kiara and myself count. I will just send it since it was in group chat. [19:24] spies8mary: Ok. [19:26] spies8tina: Sent it. [19:26] spies8mary: Thanks. [19:26] spies8tina: That was night after it happened. [19:27] spies8mary: Why did you switch off Alexei? [19:27] spies8mary: I may have asked you this before, but the answer didn't stick in my head. [19:28] spies8tina: Two big reasons. First was that Alexei had said he was not voting Zek (second biggest wagon) because he though Zek was town. The night before exile he was talking about why he was voting Dane, and I showed him the reasons were weak, so he switched off Dane (second biggest wagon). He did not really change of Dane, but said he was voting Steph to me. [19:28] spies8tina: I thought he would not only abandon his best chance of being saved, by also his second as a spy. [19:29] spies8mary: So Owen is coming up with his points right after you made your post, right? [19:29] spies8mary: Or had you not posted yet? [19:29] spies8mary: He seems to be reading in real-time there. [19:29] spies8tina: Second would have been Zeks HQ thing. If I had known he said it before, I probably would not have moved, but do not sure for sure. [19:30] spies8tina: That was just a breaking point for me on the two of them. [19:30] spies8tina: That was before anything was made public on Alexei. [19:30] spies8tina: First that Owen and Kiara had heard of the chat I think. [19:31] spies8tina: Looking back at chats I had discussed Alexei with Nita earlier that day. [19:32] spies8tina: About an hour before the one I sent. [19:32] spies8mary: spies8kiara (11:16:49 PM): Out of all those people i the room - Alexi calling out for Gabe's opinion does scare me a little too though [19:32] spies8tina: Got a better citizen read from Owen as opposed to Kiara in that chat for sure. [19:33] spies8mary: Is she a pure follower? [19:33] spies8tina: That was before she got replaced. [19:33] spies8mary: Ok. [19:33] spies8tina: Think she was replaced E2. [19:33] spies8mary: "Alexei had said he was not voting Zek (second biggest wagon) because he though Zek was town." [19:33] spies8mary: Did Zed vote Alexei? [19:34] spies8tina: I do not think so. [19:34] spies8mary: Why'd you feel different about that? [19:34] spies8tina: He voted Allan I believe. [19:34] spies8tina: Zek was probably not going. [19:34] spies8tina: I think an hour before exile Alexei had 8 or 9 to Zeks 2 or 3. [19:35] spies8mary: Ok. [19:35] spies8tina: Zek did not need a self-preservation vote unless something big happened. [19:35] spies8mary: Your switch doesn't make much sense as a Spy unless there was a chance of it making a difference. [19:35] spies8mary: No one has said that Alexei was around. [19:36] spies8tina: I think last time Alexei was online was the night before when I talked with him. [19:36] spies8tina: When he said he would be voting for Steph. [19:36] spies8mary: What do you think of Magalie? [19:37] spies8tina: I did like what people were putting up on her a bit. Depending on who was nommed I would have voted her. [19:37] spies8tina: She fits in with my loop that I am suspect of well enough. [19:37] spies8tina: I am trying to figure out what people really think of her though. [19:37] spies8mary: She's added Jenny as a suspect. [19:37] spies8mary: A popular choice. [19:37] spies8mary: And Lilith. [19:37] spies8tina: No dems are doing my "suspicion" thing. [19:38] spies8tina: There were a lot of Magalie votes last time, but people are quieter about her now. [19:38] spies8mary: She lied about every suspicion she had Episode 1-3. [19:38] spies8mary: Except maybe Claude. [19:38] spies8tina: Trying to figure out what happened. Seems like some (Gert) did not have her as a top pick. [19:38] spies8mary: Gertrude was looking for an excuse not to pick Magalie. [19:38] spies8tina: Yet voted her so their vote would matter. [19:39] spies8mary: She "didn't want to bandwagon again". [19:39] spies8tina: Like I have said. I would be happy with Magalie-Isaac-Jenny as the picks. [19:39] spies8mary: The wagon came together a little fast for my liking. [19:39] spies8tina: That would get a lot of information. [19:39] spies8mary: It was two of us and then it was 10 of us. [19:39] spies8tina: I saw. [19:39] spies8tina: That is why I am trying to figure out how genuine the suspicions were. [19:39] spies8tina: Few people are being of use with answering that though. [19:40] spies8mary: I asked everyone about her. [19:40] spies8mary: Hold on. [19:40] spies8mary: As you probably saw, only Cory and Awohali contributed to the evidence thread. [19:41] spies8tina: Right. [19:41] spies8mary: Oh. [19:41] spies8mary: Quick question. [19:41] spies8tina: Go ahead. [19:42] spies8mary: Do you think a Citizen accuses someone of their identity at exile 1? [19:42] spies8mary: Everyone on the Democrats denied accusing Gertrude. [19:42] spies8mary: I asked them all personally. [19:42] spies8tina: I have no idea what to make of accusations. I think it would be only a very slight spy tell though. [19:43] spies8tina: Since you would probably be able to pass off the name to other spies, and get a small cluster of "mystery votes" to show up. [19:43] spies8mary: Right. [19:43] spies8tina: I could see it being used for metaphoricalgaming or whatever that term is. [19:43] spies8mary: I consider that event a minor Cit tell for Gertrude. [19:43] spies8tina: As a citizen perspective. [19:44] spies8mary: Sam said identities can't be given out to gain an advantage. [19:44] spies8mary: So it's less likely she's a Spy accused by a spy. [19:44] spies8tina: Well, with metaphoricalgaming it would be an advantage if you knew the others well. [19:45] spies8tina: I would agree thought about what you said. [19:45] spies8mary: Gertrude "wavered" between Margot and Magalie at exile 2. [19:47] spies8mary: spies8isaac: LOL, first time I've ever seen you in chat magalie. Who do you think stands out right now for day two? Interested to see where you stand [19:47] spies8mary: spies8magalie: let me ask you a straight up question are you a spy/gay/jack sparrow impersonator? [19:49] spies8tina: Well, there is Isaac and Magalie now. [19:49] spies8tina: They are pains for me. [19:49] spies8mary: spies8magalie: gertude has moved up from spy to unsure in my book spies8broderick: Why is that Magalie? [19:50] spies8mary: spies8magalie: I dont have to tell you spies8magalie: if others want to know they can IM me [19:51] spies8mary: spies8mary: What's your take on Magalie? spies8claude: Still no real read. [19:51] spies8tina: Well Magalie apparently only (?) thinks Claude is spy. [19:53] spies8mary: spies8isaac: Right now I still have a big problem with claude. Magalie seems to be on the offensive for some reason which is odd. And Jasmine has gone way up on list list of suspects ever since she blatantly addmitted to not wanting to read arguments by people she doesn't like which is complete BS and screws the rest of us. [19:54] spies8tina: I have mentioned Isaacs "lurking chat" thing right? [19:54] spies8mary: Not specifically to me. [19:54] spies8mary: spies8mary: What do you think of Margot? And about the way her wagon has played out? spies8gertrude: I think I'd rather go with Magalie. [19:55] spies8tina: He made a big case to me on how he would have voted Chance over Claude if Chance lurked as much as he did E2 and was not immune. [19:55] spies8mary: Chance said he lurked because he was immune and had no vote. [19:55] spies8tina: spies8isaac (9:23:49 PM): Had chance been able to be exiled on day 2 and he remained quite or with the wierd 180 attitude all day then yes, Chance would have gotten the vote
[19:55] spies8mary: Terrible reasons, but meh. [19:56] spies8mary: I have better evidence than that on Chance. [19:58] spies8tina: Wierd thing about Magalie is she appears to be dropping off peoples lists again. [19:58] spies8tina: Both Gertrude and Cory already not voting her. [19:58] spies8tina: I saw Isaac and Law have the same thing happen to them E3. [19:58] spies8mary: Cory bit hard on my Jenny case. [19:58] spies8tina: Everyone loves the case then all the votes go poof. [19:58] spies8mary: Who is Gertrude voting? [19:59] spies8tina: That is a good question. [20:00] spies8tina: Ah, Isaac, Rondak and Jenny. [20:00] spies8tina: As of Saturday.
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Post by Mary on Jul 5, 2010 21:40:19 GMT -6
[20:07] spies8mary: Hi. [20:07] spies8zedekiah: Hello [20:07] spies8mary: We haven't spoken. [20:08] spies8zedekiah: I'm sorry 'bout that, nice t' meet ya (again) [20:08] spies8mary: All I know about you, I learned from your posts and group chats. [20:08] spies8mary: Why didn't you vote for Alexei? [20:09] spies8zedekiah: I had my vote on allan for being incative, I didn't want t' change my vote until I got an explaination out of him, which unfortunately came 2 min before votes were locked [20:10] spies8mary: Did you suspect Alexei or like Tina's and Nita's evidence? [20:10] spies8mary: He attacked you pretty hard. [20:11] spies8zedekiah: yeah, I'd have probably suspected him next. [20:11] spies8zedekiah: the whole thing on me was a bit odd IMO, but it didn't pan out well [20:12] spies8mary: I agreed with most of your suspicions post. [20:12] spies8mary: In retrospect Themba was a wrong vote. [20:14] spies8zedekiah: Yeah, it created some evidence, but I still thought it best at the time.... [20:14] spies8mary: What do you think now of your other suspects from back then? [20:15] spies8mary: It looks like mostly Stephanie and Jenny. [20:16] spies8zedekiah: I questioned jenny a bit today, I may nominate her, but I'm still tryin' t' catch up to everything [20:16] spies8mary: I am torn about her telling the Nita story. [20:16] spies8mary: It is a risky play if she's a spy, don't you think? [20:18] spies8zedekiah: I suppose, she seems to be on the inside o' everything. it's a bit hard t' tell, once you say "it can't be them" since in the end that's an ideal scum works towards [20:18] spies8zedekiah: sorry if that's a bit confusin' [20:19] spies8mary: I don't understand why she didn't get a full list of Nita's goals. [20:19] spies8mary: More importantly, I think she willfully ignored a lot of the Alexei evidence to vote you instead. [20:20] spies8zedekiah: She didn't seem t' question him, that's for sure [20:20] spies8mary: My case on her is that she was weird in group chat just about every time Alexei's name was brought up. [20:21] spies8mary: She ignored evidence people showed her, changed the topic, and went quiet when asked questions about him. [20:21] spies8mary: And stuck to you like glue. [20:21] spies8mary: For an old reason. [20:21] spies8zedekiah: Yeah, I didn't get that, even she said it wasn't much [20:22] spies8zedekiah: but she suspects me even now [20:22] spies8mary: Yes. [20:22] spies8mary: You're in her top three. [20:23] spies8zedekiah: even when I talked t' her earlier all she had to ask about was the pre day one incident, she didn't bring up "HQ", my votes or anythin' [20:24] spies8mary: Who do you think the six spies are? [20:26] spies8zedekiah: I really couldn't even begin t' link that many, obvously the cases on Sav and themba didn't work, at this point I'd trust a random number generator for acuracy if I were in owen's shoes :-P [20:27] spies8zedekiah: if I were to say my bigest suspects, Jenny, mag, allan (until he can prove his role) an maybe rondak [20:27] spies8zedekiah: I talked t' him today and he cleared a bit of it [20:28] spies8mary: If Allan proves he has a role, will that clear him for you? [20:29] spies8zedekiah: yup, that'd be pretty good, I wouldn't say it's a 100% town role for sure, but it's the best for now. [20:29] spies8mary: My top four are Chance, Isaac, Jenny and Magalie. [20:30] spies8mary: I haven't seen Chance have many suspicions nor reasons for them. [20:31] spies8mary: I've seen Isaac change his suspicions pretty wildly in short periods of time. [20:31] spies8mary: And Magalie, she lied about her suspicions two or three times, which is a major problem in my book. [20:38] spies8mary: Thank you for the chat. [20:39] spies8zedekiah: thanks, sorry I didn't talk more [20:39] spies8mary: I'm going to try to catch Owen before I leave.
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Post by Mary on Jul 5, 2010 21:40:45 GMT -6
[14:04] spies8jenny: You still away? [14:05] spies8mary: Hi. [14:05] spies8mary: I'm on the phone but still around. [14:05] spies8jenny: Okies, just curious if you caught up in the chat. [14:06] spies8mary: I will in a moment. Anything specific I should read? [14:06] spies8jenny: Well I came back with my pictures right after you left, and then we talked about Zeddy some more. [14:08] spies8mary: I'm looking at those now. [14:13] spies8mary: What do you think of Cinnamyn? [14:13] spies8mary: And Rondak? [14:13] spies8mary: That talk they just had was bizarre. [14:14] spies8jenny: I don't even know right now really. [14:15] spies8mary: That was about the lamest fight I've ever seen. [14:15] spies8mary: I'll move this chat to the group chat so Cory's not left out. [14:15] spies8jenny: Sure. [17:09] spies8jenny: Okies, since Jas wants to be stubborn for some reason, you seen Kitty around lately? She's been on for about 2 days straight now, but I've never seen her be around. [20:36] spies8mary: It looks like you got your answer. [20:36] spies8jenny: Yep, came back a little bit ago! Yaay!
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Post by Mary on Jul 5, 2010 22:22:48 GMT -6
[20:03] spies8mary: Hi. [20:04] spies8owen: Hey there, Mary. [20:04] spies8mary: We haven't spoken, I don't think. [20:04] spies8mary: Are you busy? [20:04] spies8owen: We haven't. Sort of, but I can try to juggle a few convos. [20:04] spies8mary: Why don't you chat me up when you're more free. [20:05] spies8owen: You'll be around? [20:05] spies8mary: For a while, yes. [20:05] spies8owen: Alrighty. Fuck Dr. Crowhurst, btw. [20:05] spies8mary: That's what Simon said. [20:05] spies8mary: Right before he stabbed Dr. Crowhurst in the eye. [20:06] spies8mary: I'll talk to you in a bit. [20:50] spies8owen: Alrighty, I should be good to go. [20:50] spies8owen: Still around? [20:50] spies8mary: Yes. [20:51] spies8mary: It looks like you came up with two or three of your own points on Alexei. [20:51] spies8owen: Si, si. [20:51] spies8mary: When did you make those observations? [20:51] spies8mary: Was it before or after Tina and Nita posted their cases? [20:52] spies8owen: Tina sent me the big Zed chat the first night. [20:52] spies8owen: I became suspicious of him right after seeing that. [20:52] spies8owen: It was before the cases were posted. [20:52] spies8mary: Yes. [20:52] spies8mary: You weren't in group chats much up until then? [20:53] spies8owen: I was in a decent amount of group chats, but I was not in the chat that started all the stuff with Alexei/Zed. [20:53] spies8owen: I stick more to IM though. [20:53] spies8owen: As republicans chats = subject changes galore. [20:53] spies8mary: Why do you think you were chosen as Dictator? [20:53] spies8owen: Multiple things going on at once. [20:53] spies8owen: I don't know who first put my name out there, but I think I was chosen as an alternative to Tina. [20:53] spies8mary: What do youthink of Tina? [20:54] spies8owen: She was the first to bring the Alexei stuff to me and is always hunting. [20:54] spies8owen: I tend to trust her. [20:54] spies8mary: Do you understand why she switched off Alexei to Zed? [20:54] spies8owen: Zed "HQ" comment. [20:55] spies8owen: It even had me questioning things, but I had way too much on Alexei to give it up because of one comment like that. [20:55] spies8mary: What do you think of Zed? [20:55] spies8owen: Very unsure. [20:55] spies8owen: If I had an investigation, he'd be my choice. [20:56] spies8mary: His suspicions post looked pretty good until Themba and Savannah came up Citizens. [20:56] spies8owen: If he and Alexei were both spies, that changes a bit, IMO. [20:56] spies8owen: I thought his post was solid. He seemed to be trying. [20:56] spies8mary: He seems to generally be looking for the right things. [20:56] spies8owen: And Savannah completely shut the thread down >_> [20:56] spies8owen: "Anybody could say those things." [20:57] spies8mary: My top suspects are Chance, Isaac, Jenny, Magalie. [20:57] spies8owen: Jenny, Jenny, Jenny. [20:57] spies8mary: In answer to your first dictatorial question. [20:57] spies8owen: I think we all are getting the same vibe from her. [20:57] spies8mary: Hey, I was on Jenny before being on Jenny was cool. [20:57] spies8owen: Same here. [20:57] spies8mary: However. [20:57] spies8owen: I had been mentioning her since day 1/2. [20:58] spies8mary: Her coming "clean" on Nita has me wondering. [20:58] spies8mary: Plus, people have been lapping up the case I presented. [20:58] spies8owen: I think she made the right call in not outting Nita then. [20:58] spies8owen: Nita was still hunting more than half of the players in the game. [20:58] spies8mary: Nita was protecting Jenny. [20:58] spies8mary: So I'm skeptical. [20:58] spies8owen: Yeah, there's that too. [20:58] spies8mary: I asked Nita directly--brought my case to her. [20:58] spies8mary: She mostly dodged it. [20:59] spies8mary: And talked about Magalie and Chance. [20:59] spies8owen: In general, I think Jenny tries to make herself seem like she's doing more than she actually is. [20:59] spies8mary: Well, she has about 3 actual content posts in the Burg. [20:59] spies8mary: And has yet to ask me a relevant question, I think. [20:59] spies8mary: Have you seen her suspicions charts? [21:00] spies8mary: On the Star Wars board? [21:01] spies8owen: Jenny's question is generally "what are you thinking? [21:01] spies8owen: " [21:01] spies8owen: And yeah, she IMed me her suspicion boards. [21:01] spies8mary: Zed, Claude, Steph, um [21:01] spies8owen: (11:39:24 PM) spies8jenny: Anyways, since I brought it up a while ago in the group chat, I might as well show you. Spice was asking me earlier what I was thinking as far as suspicions went, after wondering what I was doing looking for cits. Ended up showing the game board note chart thing I've had around for a bit, so I might as well show it to you too. [21:02] spies8owen: Trying a bit too hard? [21:02] spies8mary: Her reasons are thin. [21:02] spies8mary: And she has a lot of people in the "i don't know much about them" section. [21:02] spies8owen: I didn't hear much of anything from her Episode 2. [21:02] spies8owen: Other than "if you vote Vannah it's a mislynch." [21:02] spies8mary: What do you think of Isaac? [21:02] spies8owen: Disingenous. Doesn't really believe the things he says, IMO. [21:03] spies8mary: His suspicions are ridiculously fluid. [21:03] spies8owen: Only time I've felt something real from him is when he's on the defense. [21:03] spies8mary: Jasmine and I caught him switching his top three around in Episode 2. [21:03] spies8owen: And of course it's real, it's an instinct. [21:03] spies8mary: He stuck Margot in there last minute. [21:03] spies8mary: And then his "top 3" were Lawrence+Themba Episode 3. [21:04] spies8mary: And he ended up voting Jasmine on his five day old case. [21:05] spies8mary: Why did you vote for him? [21:06] spies8owen: Gut, feeling like he's a bullshitter, his voting post where he mentioned Themba briefly and then jumped right onto Jasmine again. [21:07] spies8mary: Cory also voted him gut. [21:07] spies8owen: I thought the Themba/Isaac connection was there. I didn't think I'd be the only person voting for him, not that I really care that I was, since I still suspect him. [21:07] spies8owen: Lilith had Jasmine switch her vote last second. [21:07] spies8mary: Do you have a read on Jasmine? [21:08] spies8owen: Not really. OMGUS does not = scum. [21:08] spies8owen: Do you? [21:08] spies8mary: Did she do any spy hunting in episode 3? [21:08] spies8mary: She felt fine to me in Episode 2. [21:08] spies8owen: I don't think many of us did, to be honest. [21:08] spies8owen: It was constant bickering between groups. [21:09] spies8owen: New rep's and old rep's. [21:09] spies8owen: It was ridiculous. [21:09] spies8mary: How do you want to handle the Magalie situation? [21:09] spies8owen: I am so unsure about what to think about her. [21:09] spies8mary: She outright lied about her first three suspicions. [21:09] spies8owen: Lying that blatantly is such a crazy thing to do as scum AND town. [21:10] spies8owen: It's a huge distractions. [21:10] spies8owen: -s [21:10] spies8mary: Gertrude, Claude, Nita of all people. [21:10] spies8mary: Her wagon grew rapidly in Episode 3. [21:10] spies8mary: From two of us at the start to ten of us. [21:11] spies8mary: And only three posted anything in the evidence thread. [21:11] spies8owen: That's a bit concerning. :/ [21:11] spies8mary: I just went over it with Tina because no one is responding to her thread. [21:12] spies8mary: But I got just about everyone on the record last episode. [21:12] spies8mary: I don't know what to tell you. There's a decent chance she's an idiot Citizen. [21:13] spies8owen: Yep, it's a good possibility. [21:13] spies8mary: I'd rather vote Isaac out--gives more information. [21:13] spies8mary: Or Chance. Do you know much about him? [21:14] spies8owen: But at the same time, if we're afforded to mislynch anyone, it's her. She's a big distraction. I'd be more inclined to vote Isaac at the moment though. [21:14] spies8owen: I haven't yet spoken to Chance. [21:14] spies8owen: Seems like a bit of an enigma. [21:14] spies8mary: Summary: [21:14] spies8mary: Gut read--he tried to set me up for an easy exile episode 1. [21:14] spies8mary: When I corrected all his misstatements, he locked on to Claude. [21:15] spies8owen: Hmm, I wasn't aware he went after you first. [21:15] spies8mary: He used the same types of misstatements on Claude. [21:15] spies8mary: Then his vote was taken and he didn't contribute to Exile 2 even though he was around. [21:15] spies8mary: Seemed satisfied with the result and just talked about Claude. [21:16] spies8mary: Episode 3, he posted his 6 spies. [21:16] spies8mary: I asked him who he was voting for moments later and he said Magalie. [21:16] spies8mary: She wasn't in his list. [21:16] spies8owen: LOL. Awkward. [21:17] spies8mary: I asked him his reasons for Jenny and one other in his list. [21:17] spies8mary: He had nothing but nice things to say about Jenny and had to look up suspicious things about his other suspect. [21:18] spies8mary: Net conclusion: no real suspicions besides Claude, who I believe is probably a Citizen. [21:18] spies8mary: He's since been preparing to vote Jenny. [21:19] spies8owen: Oh lord. That's terribly inconsistant. [21:20] spies8owen: Be right back. Need to grab something to eat. [21:20] spies8mary: I have to go. [21:20] spies8owen: Ahhh. [21:20] spies8owen: G'night, Mary. [21:20] spies8mary: Any more questions? [21:20] spies8mary: I can stay for a few minutes if you'll be back quickly. [21:20] spies8owen: Nope, you've given me more than everyone else has, actually. [21:20] spies8mary: Ok. [21:21] spies8mary: I didn't answer all your questions but whatever. [21:21] spies8mary: If you want, ask me another time. [21:21] spies8owen: I'll be around tomorrow. [21:21] spies8mary: Ok. [21:21] spies8mary: I'm going to go peel an onion for dinner. [21:21] spies8mary: Bye. [21:21] spies8owen: LOL [21:21] spies8mary: What? [21:21] spies8mary: They're good. [21:22] spies8mary: You eat them like apples with a little salt.
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Post by Mary on Jul 5, 2010 22:23:36 GMT -6
[20:07] spies8mary: Hi. [20:07] spies8cinnamyn: whatsup boo [20:09] spies8mary: Trying Zed right now. [20:09] spies8mary: Who are you going to vote for? [20:09] spies8mary: I know you said Jenny, Magalie, Isaac earlier. [20:10] spies8cinnamyn: jenny probly [20:10] spies8cinnamyn: i wish izaac wuz here 2 explain da points againt him [20:10] spies8mary: Ok. [20:11] spies8mary: I will vote for Isaac or Chance. [20:11] spies8mary: Jenny telling the Nita story made me have doubts about her. [20:12] spies8cinnamyn: but she didnt no if nita told sumbody else [20:12] spies8cinnamyn: cuz nita cud have, in case she did get imprizined [20:12] spies8cinnamyn: den dey cud call out jenny [20:13] spies8cinnamyn: u c wut im sayin.? so it wuz best 4 her 2 get it out in da open [20:13] spies8cinnamyn: if she wuz a spy [20:17] spies8mary: Oh. [20:17] spies8mary: That's true. [20:22] spies8cinnamyn: we cant let izaac get nominated if poss [20:22] spies8mary: There's no way around it. [20:22] spies8cinnamyn: magalie iz gud [20:22] spies8cinnamyn: but dam he will exile izaac [20:25] spies8mary: I think Chance is a Spy. [20:26] spies8cinnamyn: u dont think he jus' b stupid.? [20:26] spies8mary: No. I think I have more evidence on him than I do on Jenny. [20:26] spies8mary: I'm trying to decide between Chance and Isaac. [20:26] spies8mary: And an outside shot at Magalie. [20:26] spies8mary: Chance has no suspects and no reasons. [20:27] spies8cinnamyn: have u talked wit' him lately.? [20:27] spies8mary: He lies like Magalie but he twists too. [20:27] spies8mary: A little. [20:27] spies8mary: He was totally clueless before Episode 3. [20:27] spies8mary: And switched up his suspects to get Magalie in as a vote even though she wasn't in his 6 spies list. [20:28] spies8cinnamyn: hmm [20:32] spies8mary: What do you think of Isaac? [20:33] spies8cinnamyn: i think he only play defense [20:33] spies8cinnamyn: he got really wishy washy reazinz 4 votin, espeshully las' exile [20:33] spies8cinnamyn: n' acts weird in genral, lyke makin' dat big post on jasmine [20:33] spies8cinnamyn: but den jus' sayin' it wuz there so that he didnt lose it, not that he thot jasmine wuz a spy [20:34] spies8cinnamyn: den votez 4 her [20:34] spies8mary: "Do I think she's a spy? Well I don't think there is enough evidence either way, which was the purpose of the post." [20:34] spies8mary: Yeah. [20:34] spies8mary: He did the same thing with Margot in episode 2. [20:34] spies8mary: Jasmine and I caught him switching her into his top three. [20:34] spies8mary: Right after he gave me a list he changed it for Jasmine. [20:35] spies8cinnamyn: lmbo [20:35] spies8cinnamyn: he a odd fella [20:38] spies8mary: Do you think he's a Spy? [20:39] spies8cinnamyn: izaac.? probly [20:39] spies8cinnamyn: i jus' dont want a bandwagon 2 hop on him while he aint here
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Post by Mary on Jul 6, 2010 23:06:14 GMT -6
[14:19] spies8mary: Hi. [14:19] spies8chance: 'sup mary. [14:19] spies8mary: Are you feeling better? [14:20] spies8chance: yes, a little bit. i still sound icky. [14:20] spies8mary: Good thing you don't have to talk. [14:20] spies8chance: mmm. [14:21] spies8mary: What do you think of Jenny? [14:22] spies8chance: well, my main reason for suspecting her was pretty much blown out of the water last night. [14:22] spies8mary: I saw that. [14:22] spies8mary: I suspected her for other reasons, but her approach to the Nita situation has me rethinking. [14:23] spies8chance: why's that? [14:23] spies8mary: Because I have trouble seeing the Spies all getting together and saying [14:24] spies8mary: Let's kill Nita and then Jenny, you tell everyone you knew about her all along. [14:24] spies8chance: yeah, when you look at it like that... :-P [14:24] spies8chance: what do you think of allan? [14:25] spies8mary: Based on suspicions and attitude alone he looks really bad. [14:25] spies8mary: He didn't seem to care whether you or Claude or I think Magalie went. [14:25] spies8chance: yeah, that bothers me a little. [14:25] spies8mary: He has a role apparently that has been proven to be a role by Owen? Or by two people? [14:26] spies8chance: however, given the whole message situation, i think he's a cit. [14:26] spies8chance: owen proved it, jenny says that nita proved it. [14:26] spies8chance: and apparently claude has proven it or is going to. [14:26] spies8mary: Ok. [14:26] spies8mary: Allan said he thought there was a spy counterpart to his role. [14:27] spies8mary: Did he ever explain why? [14:27] spies8mary: At the time, it made me think he was preparing for a counterclaim. [14:27] spies8chance: hm, where did he say that? [14:27] spies8chance: i remember people discussing whether or not there was a spy counterpart to savannah's role. [14:27] spies8mary: Hold on. [14:29] spies8mary: [22:16] spies8jenny: By the way, Allan also said something else that has me a little worried when he claimed to me. [22:16] spies8jenny: 16:41] spies8allan: good things happen for the town when roles get used on me [16:42] spies8allan: i think there is one person with my role on our team, and one on the other team [16:42] spies8allan: though there could be more? i'm not sure [14:30] spies8chance: is he referring to spies/cits, or democrats/republicans? [14:30] spies8chance: it seems odd that he would use the word 'team' there. [14:30] spies8mary: I wondered that too at first. [14:30] spies8mary: But how would he know either way? [14:31] spies8chance: was he asked why he thought that? [14:31] spies8mary: I don't think so. [14:31] spies8mary: Since he didn't claim his own role, I haven't considered it appropriate to ask him about it. [14:31] spies8chance: why not? he's confirmed it since. [14:32] spies8mary: The only thing to watch out for is like in Spies3 where two Citizens faked roles that confirmed each other and steamrolled the town. [14:32] spies8mary: Sorry, two Spies. [14:32] spies8chance: mind going into detail on that? [14:32] spies8mary: I only skimmed it a long time ago. [14:33] spies8mary: I think one person faked an investigation on another. [14:33] spies8mary: And then the "innocent" claimed a role. [14:33] spies8chance: ah. [14:34] spies8mary: I don't think that's likely here. [14:34] spies8mary: But if possible we should confirm details about these roles to eliminate the possibility of two Spies playing games with roles. [14:35] spies8chance: i agree. [14:35] spies8chance: i have to go now. [14:35] spies8chance: i'll be back later tonight (hopefully). [14:35] spies8mary: Allan says he got a message and he got the power? [14:35] spies8chance: see ya mary. :-) [14:35] spies8chance: yes. [14:35] spies8chance: he used the power to send the message on to allan. [14:35] spies8mary: And Owen confirmed. [14:35] spies8chance: *owen. [14:35] spies8mary: So unless they're both Spies, Allan has the role. [14:35] spies8mary: Or Allan can send messages. [14:35] spies8chance: i'd like to see him use claude's power first. [14:35] spies8chance: yeah, that's why. [14:35] spies8mary: And if he uses Claude's power [14:36] spies8mary: Then he can prove his specific role. Sort of. [14:36] spies8chance: sorta. yeah. okay, really gotta jet. [14:36] spies8chance: later! [14:36] spies8mary: Ok. [14:36] spies8mary: Bye.
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Post by Mary on Jul 6, 2010 23:07:25 GMT -6
[16:42] spies8tina: spies8broderick (9:38:57 PM): He is a bit of a mystery, can't really get a good read on him. I asked him his suspects earlier, and he said Themba. He was readin the case on her and found it odd no one was still persuing it
[16:43] spies8tina: All I have on Isaac from him. [16:44] spies8mary: I have decent vibes from Jasmine and her suspicions are ok. I don't know if her suspicions are fully reasoned or not. [16:44] spies8mary: Some of them are. [16:45] spies8tina: I just have a hard time with his suspicions. [16:45] spies8mary: Broderick's? [16:45] spies8mary: His cases are reasoned. [16:45] spies8tina: Isaac's. [16:45] spies8mary: Oh. [16:45] spies8mary: Yes, they're terribly inconsistent. [16:45] spies8tina: Brod killed off a good ammount of the gut feeling I had on him with that post today. [16:50] spies8mary: Did you think any of his cases were good? [16:50] spies8mary: Or did you more disagree with the suspect list? [16:51] spies8tina: Out of his top three Gerturde is the only one I sort of like. [16:51] spies8tina: I have Isaac as spy so Jasmine fits in as cit. [16:52] spies8tina: Steph I keep going back and forth on, but still keep leaning cit. [16:52] spies8tina: I am going to talk with Owen about her tonight. Seriously wondering if both of us saying she is slight town is something that we build off. [16:53] spies8tina: One thing he brought up about her that made me pause was that apparently Gabe had Steph as very strong town read. [16:53] spies8mary: Was Gabe a good scumhunter? [16:53] spies8tina: Not great, but everyone thought he was citizen and listened to him. [16:53] spies8mary: I haven't focused on his words. [16:54] spies8tina: He came accross as very town, was a little tunneled into Savannah though. [16:54] spies8mary: Who were his suspects when he was Imprisoned? [16:55] spies8tina: I honestly am not sure. I do not think he ever thought Savannah would not be spy. [16:55] spies8tina: Will check though. [16:56] spies8tina: Well maybe he was not as strong on Steph as Owen thought reading this. [16:57] spies8tina: Was saying that a Savannah claim would have made him vote Steph. [16:57] spies8tina: Over break says Jenny is a top pick. [16:57] spies8tina: Also wonders about Zek. [16:58] spies8tina: Seemed to think Chance was spy. [16:59] spies8tina: Wonders why people call Dane cit so much. [17:00] spies8tina: Maybe a little suspect of Law too. [17:00] spies8mary: No one primary case he was driving? [17:01] spies8tina: So starting from about an hour to E3 he mentioned Steph, Jenny, Zek, Chance, Dane and Law. [17:01] spies8tina: I saw no primary, although Jenny and Zek were the only ones mentioned more then once. [17:01] spies8mary: Meh. [17:01] spies8tina: Hard to tell where he would have ended up. [17:16] spies8tina: I just disagree with Brod on almost every single thing. [17:17] spies8tina: Out of his top few the closest I come are neutralish reads. [17:19] spies8mary: People like him I usually wait a few episodes on before passing judgment. [17:19] spies8mary: In his case, this is the third vote in a row I disagree on. But I liked his first vote. [17:22] spies8tina: I keep wondering about Chance-Isaac pair.
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Post by Mary on Jul 7, 2010 1:12:52 GMT -6
[23:06] spies8mary: Did Isaac ever express suspicions of Stephanie? [23:06] spies8tina: I do not think much if any but I will check. [23:07] spies8mary: I want to see if we can pin down any vote movement. [23:08] spies8tina: Looking through the chats with him, Steph is never mentioned. [23:08] spies8tina: At least not in individual stuff. [23:08] spies8mary: So he probably didn't vote her unless he is a Spy. [23:08] spies8tina: Right. [23:08] spies8tina: Citizen-Isaac would have voted Claude. [23:08] spies8tina: Either that or thrown away his vote on Jasmine. [23:09] spies8mary: Or Jasmine. [23:09] spies8mary: Right. [23:09] spies8tina: Honestly I think Isaac is gone already. [23:09] spies8tina: It would take role information or something massive to make Owen vote Steph. [23:10] spies8tina: And he suspects Isaac more then Jenny, although not a whole lot more. [23:10] spies8tina: That one can change, but it really is a two horse race. [23:11] spies8mary: It doesn't seem like the anonymizer role usage changed much. [23:11] spies8tina: Not sure if that is good or bad. [23:11] spies8mary: Other than to remove Claude and Rondak. [23:12] spies8mary: What does Owen think of Claude and Rondak? [23:12] spies8tina: I do not think he would have voted Claude. Rondak was not out of the picture but unlikely. [23:13] spies8mary: If I were to guess, I'd say Claude made this happen. [23:13] spies8tina: That would have been massively stupid if it was him. [23:14] spies8tina: Doesn't matter what alignment, massively stupid. [23:14] spies8mary: Less likely, the exile protector if it's a different person. [23:14] spies8tina: I do not think Claude is exile protector. [23:14] spies8mary: Why massively stupid? Because of the attention it brought? [23:14] spies8mary: I don't either. [23:14] spies8tina: Because it was not needed to save himself or option three. [23:15] spies8mary: Did he know that? [23:15] spies8tina: If Claude is a spy all spies are clueless as to what Owen is thinking. [23:15] spies8tina: There is almost zero way a non-Isaac or Jenny goes. [23:15] spies8tina: Even if Owen could vote anyone. [23:16] spies8mary: Still, Claude has proven to be selfish and blockheaded. [23:16] spies8tina: He did mention Steph as a suspect too. [23:16] spies8mary: He wanted to impose his role upon Owen. [23:16] spies8tina: spies8tina (7:01:58 PM): Anyway, that leaves Steph and Jenny to be mentioned. spies8claude (7:02:13 PM): I'm suspicious of them both, to varying degrees
[23:17] spies8mary: A shift off Isaac and on Stephanie to get him off the block. [23:17] spies8tina: Could have been. [23:17] spies8mary: Was he around counting votes? [23:17] spies8tina: He seems to go in and out quite a bit. [23:18] spies8tina: Votes were due at 8 my time so you can judge that chat accordingly. [23:18] spies8tina: While I do not deny that Claude could be a spy, I do not think he did this. [23:19] spies8tina: He already force Allan to choose between just a few, that would require double actions. [23:19] spies8tina: I am not sure, but would think double actions would not be allowed. [23:19] spies8mary: True. [23:19] spies8mary: That's the main reason I don't think he's the exile protector. [23:19] spies8tina: Either way, if he was in trouble E1 spies would have used that and just blindsided someone who was thought to be town. [23:20] spies8tina: I think this and exile protection are both not related to Claude. [23:21] spies8tina: What have your thoughts on Steph and Jenny been? [23:21] spies8tina: I know you haven't got to see Steph, but from what you have read. [23:22] spies8mary: I'm trying to think of what got me on to Jenny in the first place. [23:23] spies8mary: I think it was reading her post history and seeing that she only had one game-relevant post hiding behind the mountain of group chat posts. [23:24] spies8mary: So I skimmed group chats and saw the Alexei weirdness. [23:24] spies8mary: Saw that she locked on Zed. [23:24] spies8mary: Ignored whatever you brought to her about Alexei. [23:25] spies8tina: No one was interested on Alexei as it was happening. [23:25] spies8tina: Both Jenny and Steph shot it down to an extent. [23:25] spies8mary: I never saw Jenny shoot it down. [23:25] spies8mary: But I saw her ignore it. [23:25] spies8tina: In private. [23:25] spies8mary: "Nope, I'll stick with Zed" [23:25] spies8mary: Ok. [23:25] spies8tina: I was still much more afraid of group chats at that point. [23:25] spies8tina: Still do better in private ones. [23:26] spies8mary: People made a fuss about her and the Allan thing. [23:26] spies8mary: I don't think it's terribly relevant. [23:26] spies8mary: I might have done the same. [23:26] spies8tina: spies8jenny (6:57:33 PM): Really? How does Alexei ring bells for you? spies8tina (6:59:17 PM): "I think its suspicious" implies that he thinks he is a spy. But if he believes him, that should mean that he is not a spy and was just busy to me. spies8jenny (7:00:00 PM): I guess. Not really too big yet, but might as well keep an eye on him for now.
[23:26] spies8tina: Then conversation got back on Zek. [23:26] spies8mary: Yes. [23:27] spies8mary: One thing that REALLY bothered me was [23:27] spies8mary: She was ignoring your case on Alexei or whatever [23:27] spies8mary: And said she wanted to talk to him [23:27] spies8mary: And then he comes in the room and she says [23:27] spies8mary: "You got some splainin' to do!" [23:27] spies8mary: And then shuts up for 40 minutes. [23:28] spies8mary: I accept her explanation on Savannah. [23:28] spies8mary: She didn't have much to do with that nor could have really saved her. [23:28] spies8tina: spies8jenny (7:20:29 PM):So what do you think about all this?spies8alexei (7:20:46 PM):I personally think he's definitely a spyspies8jenny (7:25:37 PM):This is just the craziest... I don't even know what is happening now.spies8alexei (7:25:47 PM):he's changed his storyspies8alexei (7:25:53 PM):that's enough for mespies8jenny (7:25:57 PM):That much I got, but this is the most ridiculous thing ever.spies8alexei (7:26:02 PM):yeahspies8alexei (7:30:00 PM):I'm still not convinced [23:28] spies8tina: That chat there is one thing that held me back a bit E2. [23:29] spies8tina: Alexei sent me that when I asked him what him and Jenny were talking about before the Zek thing happened. [23:29] spies8tina: That goes from right before and ventures into as it occurs. [23:29] spies8tina: Jenny did cite a few things from it pretty quickly. [23:29] spies8tina: spies8jenny (7:00:22 PM):He's telling me he's pretty sure that Zeddy is a spy.spies8tina (7:00:48 PM):Since that point he has turned into a more concrete read I will admitspies8jenny (7:00:52 PM):Saying he's not convinced about the whole thing. [23:30] spies8tina: Which was timeframe 30 min after that. [23:30] spies8tina: I dunno, I went against judgement to ignore a large ammount of Themba-Alexei chat already and am afraid of doing it again. [23:30] spies8mary: I was looking to see if either of you influenced the other off Alexei. [23:31] spies8tina: You mean who started the case? [23:31] spies8tina: Or what exactly. [23:31] spies8mary: The closest I came was "Jenny didn't confirm or harp on the Alexei evidence you brought her." [23:31] spies8mary: No, how you got off Alexei. [23:31] spies8mary: And if she was ever on him. [23:31] spies8mary: She didn't appear to be. [23:31] spies8tina: I think Savannah would be credited if anyone apart from myself there. [23:32] spies8tina: Looking back with talking with Savannah I think I had convinced myself mentaly and was trying to convince myself to actully move. [23:33] spies8tina: spies8tina (10:04:02 PM): So what is your thoughts on Alexei and Dane? spies8tina (10:04:47 PM): Citizen? Neutral? Also spy? spies8jenny (10:05:13 PM): Alexei, I dunno. Could be I guess, but I want to see more from him first if he's still alive after tomorrow.
[23:33] spies8mary: spies8jenny: What are you deciding on still? [19:56] spies8tina: Every time I talk to this Alexei guy he does a handful of things that make me think both ways. [23:34] spies8mary: spies8jenny: Which makes 1 vote on Stephi-kins as far as I know. [23:34] spies8mary: spies8tina: Why do I feel like I am talking to myself? [20:05] spies8tina: Also has anyone ever talked with Allan? [20:05] spies8jenny: I've talked with him several times. [23:34] spies8mary: She totally ignored your Alexei out loud thought process [23:35] spies8mary: And perked right up when you changed the topic. [23:36] spies8mary: spies8jenny: Somewhere between a 3 and a 7.
That's probably not very helpful, but I really don't know what to think of this guy right now. He seems to me to be coming off like someone in a previous game named Callahan, who just gave up [23:36] spies8mary: spies8tina: He has not given up. [20:16] spies8jenny: He sure sounded like he was giving up last night. [23:36] spies8tina: I remember the 3 ot 7 thing. [23:36] spies8tina: That one bugged me. [23:36] spies8mary: Yes. [23:36] spies8mary: That's like saying your favorite ice cream is neopolitan. [23:36] spies8tina: Think at that point I was in full throws on a mental breakdown. [23:36] spies8tina: Stupid game. [23:37] spies8mary: You bring up a contradiction [23:38] spies8mary: spies8tina: He apparently told you in private he was convinced Zek was a spy very shortly before he posted something in public that he claimed ment he thought Zek was neutral. [20:18] spies8tina: According to him he did not think Zek was a spy untill about 10-15 minutes after he told you that. [23:38] spies8mary: spies8tina: That is the kind of stuff that I can not get over. [20:19] spies8tina: He explicity contridicts himself there. [23:38] spies8mary: You're looking for comment, discussion [23:38] spies8mary: Reality check [23:38] spies8mary: She goes silent for 15 minutes until Owen arrives. [23:39] spies8mary: So anyhow, that was the case I made on Jenny, and the whole Nita situation made me waver. [23:40] spies8mary: That plus how people seemed to jump on the case so eagerly. [23:40] spies8mary: As for Stephanie, I had an ok talk with her and she didn't seem deceptive. [23:41] spies8tina: Steph is just odd. [23:41] spies8mary: She had a good but small case on Lawrence. [23:41] spies8tina: I am thinking most of it was my case. [23:41] spies8tina: Or at least in part mine. [23:41] spies8mary: I think I asked her that. [23:41] spies8mary: Hold on. [23:43] spies8mary: spies8stephanie: he made no sense when he first got to the dems spies8mary: His vote on Themba was terrible. spies8stephanie: our first conversation with him, he said he had a gut spy read on broderick, most suspicious of jasmine, but if he had to vote right then would vote isaac or themba spies8mary: And then he switched to you which looked like OMGUS. spies8stephanie: looked like someone trying to throw around as many suspicions as possible [23:44] spies8tina: Maybe this choice is not as straightforward as I though. [23:44] spies8tina: Really it is just a "not Steph" thing for me. [23:44] spies8mary: That's basically your case. [23:44] spies8tina: Yeah it is. [23:45] spies8tina: She jumped on that hard. [23:45] spies8tina: Way to hard, scared me big time. [23:45] spies8tina: Have not seen her that into something since Dane made her crack. [23:45] spies8tina: That was an emotional thing too. [23:46] spies8mary: Voting Lawrence (I still refuse to bold).
(8:25:57 PM) spies8stephanie: so i am all confused on your suspects (8:26:23 PM) spies8stephanie: you told me yesterday that brod was spy on "gut" (8:26:40 PM) spies8stephanie: and you were most susp. of jas (8:26:48 PM) spies8stephanie: and investigating isaac? (8:26:51 PM) spies8lawrence: Yeah, the entire "case" against him is posted in the dem side. (8:27:12 PM) spies8lawrence: Pretty much, yeah. (8:27:19 PM) spies8stephanie: but you told tina that you would vote isaac or themba? (8:27:47 PM) spies8stephanie: having a hard time with most susp. of jas and voting isaac (8:28:34 PM) spies8stephanie: or themba, have you talked with themba? [23:46] spies8mary: That's from the vote thread. [23:46] spies8mary: She actually asked him two questions directly from your case. [23:46] spies8mary: And pasted the resulting chat snippet. [23:47] spies8mary: Not impressive. [23:47] spies8tina: I get followed a whole lot in this game. Im an ok judge at telling when it is good or bad following. [23:47] spies8tina: Alexei was a good follow, Law not so much. [23:47] spies8mary: spies8stephanie: i think zeke is fairly clueless cit [23:49] spies8mary: spies8mary: Sorry, also chatting with Jasmine. spies8mary: What do you think of her? spies8stephanie: i think she is disruptive in chats spies8stephanie: she seems more concerned with her own personal safety than in spy hunting spies8mary: What do you think of her suspects? spies8stephanie: all over the place? spies8mary: Really? spies8stephanie: isaac [23:50] spies8mary: spies8mary: What do you think of Isaac? spies8stephanie: i have not talked to him that much spies8stephanie: have not got much of a read on him [23:51] spies8mary: She sounded ok to me. [23:51] spies8mary: I don't see anything that cries out Spy. [23:52] spies8tina: Right. [23:52] spies8tina: Steph usually stays slight town for me. [23:53] spies8tina: I just feel that if I wanted I could make a fairly convincing Steph-spy case, which always concerns me this early. [23:53] spies8tina: And Owen is not exiling Steph. [23:54] spies8mary: I don't like to vote for people unless both my gut and the evidence say yes. [23:54] spies8mary: Chance Magalie Isaac, I have gut and evidence. [23:54] spies8tina: I try and trust evidence a bit more usually, gut tends to screw me over since I am jumpy. [23:54] spies8mary: Jenny, I have evidence and less gut. [23:55] spies8tina: Just try and fake that I am not as much as possible. [23:55] spies8mary: At least we're not Owen. [23:55] spies8tina: Am sort of glad he got it. [23:55] spies8mary: I'd be sick to my stomach. [23:56] spies8tina: I do not like lots of pressure, but would have taken it over any other Rep. [23:57] spies8mary: I'm not sure going through the evidence again tonight is going to change much. [23:57] spies8mary: I want to talk to Chance. [23:57] spies8tina: I could completely see an Isaac-Chance pair. [23:57] spies8mary: Chance dodged me again today. [23:58] spies8mary: Short chat and he said "gotta jet". [23:59] spies8tina: Hard to ever tell if that is genuine or not. [00:00] spies8mary: spies8mary: I think if Jenny was approached like that as a spy, her team would have told her to be quiet about it. spies8mary: Don't you? spies8cory: Hmm [00:00] spies8mary: People never answer my questions. [00:00] spies8tina: Well look at my thread I made trying to get to the core of the Magalie thing. [00:00] spies8mary: Yes. [00:00] spies8tina: I had to berate people to get the little response I did. [00:00] spies8mary: I looked up about five of the answers since no one posted. [00:01] spies8mary: The Magalie support was really thin but unanimous. [00:01] spies8tina: Apparently Law is the only one who considered voting Magalie this time. [00:01] spies8tina: Just super frustrating. [00:01] spies8mary: He looks like a lazy bastard. [00:01] spies8tina: He smart bastard though. [00:01] spies8tina: Just does not want to apply himself. [00:01] spies8mary: He says "I'll have to look into that" a lot. [00:02] spies8tina: When he does though, it tends to be decent stuff. [00:06] spies8tina: I am going to get sleep. See you tomorrow. [00:06] spies8tina: Should be around starting early afternoon. [00:07] spies8mary: Goodnight.
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Post by Mary on Jul 7, 2010 1:13:31 GMT -6
[21:41] spies8cory: Hello. [22:03] spies8mary: Hi. [22:04] spies8cory: Hello. [22:04] spies8mary: I see you decided you'd rather have Isaac exiled than Jenny. [22:05] spies8cory: Lol. Not quite. [22:05] spies8mary: How would you explain your switch? [22:05] spies8cory: There are a lot tied with three votes [22:05] spies8cory: I'd much rather Isaac get nominated than a lot of those tie votes [22:06] spies8mary: I agree. [22:06] spies8mary: But that's not the result you got. [22:07] spies8cory: There are unknowns out there [22:07] spies8cory: Not everyone has broadcast their vote I don't think [22:07] spies8mary: Tina seemed to have a complete count. [22:07] spies8mary: 5-4-3-3-3 she said. [22:08] spies8cory: Jenny-Isaac-the others? [22:08] spies8mary: Yes. [22:08] spies8cory: Lol then my vote did nothing [22:08] spies8mary: You could have protected those "tied" people you were worried about. [22:09] spies8cory: Well I'm making it no secret I want Isaac over them [22:09] spies8mary: What do you think of Claude, Stephanie and Rondak? [22:09] spies8cory: Stephanie seems like a dull bulb, but I've seen nothing to make me think she's a Spy [22:09] spies8cory: I think Claude is a dumb cit [22:09] spies8cory: I think Rondak is probably the same [22:09] spies8cory: Though less sure of him [22:10] spies8mary: Who are your six spies again? [22:10] spies8cory: I don't think I ever listed six [22:10] spies8cory: But Isaac, Jenny, Chance have consistently been my top three for a while now [22:10] spies8cory: Magalie I've gone up and down about [22:10] spies8mary: You're a few shy. [22:11] spies8mary: Why do you think Chance isn't getting any votes? [22:11] spies8cory: Well apparently whatever he did last night as a result of the Allan thing made people feel better about him [22:11] spies8cory: And Claude wimped out [22:11] spies8mary: What's that? [22:12] spies8cory: He went after someone, Jenny I think, because Allan was saying Gabe was the doctor. [22:12] spies8cory: And I think people believe that him jumping the gun under what he would know is false information(word is Allan got sent a message from a Spy) makes him less likely to be a Spy himself. [22:12] spies8cory: Not sure if I believe that necessarily [22:13] spies8mary: I tried to talk to him today. [22:13] spies8mary: He bolted. Again. [22:13] spies8cory: Lol. [22:13] spies8cory: Well how did you start the conversation? [22:13] spies8cory: And yes I'm shy a few [22:14] spies8mary: spies8chance: sorta. yeah. okay, really gotta jet. spies8chance: later! [22:14] spies8cory: Lol! [22:14] spies8mary: I started by asking him what his spleen looked like. [22:15] spies8cory: Did you mention pencils? [22:15] spies8cory: Did you mention what you did to poor Claude? [22:15] spies8mary: No, just Jenny. [22:15] spies8mary: Jenny is the only person he talked about besides Allan. [22:16] spies8cory: He suspect her? [22:16] spies8cory: What happened to Magalie and Gertrude? [22:16] spies8mary: Not as much anymore. [22:16] spies8mary: He's back on Claude. [22:16] spies8mary: It's a lazy vote. [22:16] spies8mary: He's done no additional research that I know of. [22:17] spies8mary: Have you seen any fresh Claude evidence from Chance? [22:17] spies8mary: Any sign that he's using new events to test his hypothesis? [22:17] spies8cory: Nope [22:17] spies8cory: Then again, we haven't talked about it much [22:17] spies8mary: Have you come up with a case yet? [22:18] spies8cory: Against Chance? [22:18] spies8mary: On anyone? [22:18] spies8cory: Not a full fleshed one. The closest would be Jenny [22:18] spies8cory: I have like five points against her I keep bringing up [22:18] spies8mary: Yes. [22:18] spies8cory: Most borrowed from different sources [22:18] spies8cory: But they're the points I find most valid [22:19] spies8mary: What do you think of Magalie? [22:19] spies8mary: I've seen you say that she's different now. [22:21] spies8cory: She looks like she has her head in the game slightly more than before [22:21] spies8cory: I'm not really sure. I feel kind of indecisive [22:21] spies8mary: What are her suspicions? [22:21] spies8cory: Claude and Jenny were the two I recall her bringing up [22:21] spies8cory: Jenny because of the Nita thing [22:21] spies8mary: Yes. [22:21] spies8mary: Do you know her stance on Lilith? [22:23] spies8cory: I don't know if she has one [22:23] spies8cory: Because before Jenny [22:23] spies8cory: She said Claude was all she had any read on [22:23] spies8mary: No. [22:23] spies8cory: No! [22:23] spies8cory: No what? No read on Lilith? [22:24] spies8mary: She listed Lilith in her three suspects along with Claude and Margot. [22:24] spies8mary: I am pretty sure. [22:24] spies8mary: And again now she is listing Lilith. [22:24] spies8cory: For what reason? [22:24] spies8mary: Magalie says Lilith is up Claude's butt. [22:25] spies8cory: Lol. [22:26] spies8cory: What do you think about her? [22:26] spies8cory: Magalie, not Lilly [22:26] spies8mary: Magalie? Or Lilith? [22:26] spies8cory: You were one of the people supporting her exile, too [22:26] spies8cory: Has that changed? [22:27] spies8mary: No. [22:27] spies8mary: I would rather see Isaac or Chance exiled but I would also like to see Magalie exiled. [22:28] spies8cory: What do you think about Jenny, then? [22:29] spies8mary: I think she seems very natural about her interaction with Nita. [22:29] spies8mary: I would not have played it like her. [22:29] spies8mary: But I can't imagine the Spies as a group playing it like that. [22:30] spies8cory: What do you think they would have done? [22:39] spies8mary: Sorry. [22:39] spies8mary: Got distracted by results. [22:39] spies8mary: And you weren't in group chat. [22:40] spies8cory: I hate people. [22:40] spies8cory: That a good enough of a reason? [22:40] spies8mary: I think if Jenny was approached like that as a spy, her team would have told her to be quiet about it. [22:40] spies8mary: Don't you? [22:41] spies8cory: Hmm
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Post by Mary on Jul 7, 2010 2:28:06 GMT -6
[00:34] spies8owen: Hey there. [00:34] spies8mary: Hi. [00:34] spies8owen: How's it going? [00:34] spies8mary: Good, just talking with a few people. [00:34] spies8mary: Are you nervous about tomorrow? [00:35] spies8owen: Of course. I've been extremely nervous for a few days now. [00:35] spies8owen: I think it'll actually be a relief to just get it over with. [00:35] spies8mary: It makes me nauseous just thinking about it. [00:36] spies8owen: You know it. I've had acid reflux since the day after I found out I won the power. [00:37] spies8mary: I think you should pick Isaac, and I don't know Stephanie well but I don't feel like you should pick her. [00:37] spies8owen: There's about a 2 percent chance I'll be voting for Stephanie. [00:37] spies8mary: I have decent facts on Jenny but some that say no as well, and my gut is not in that case. [00:37] spies8owen: Jenny has been pinging on my scumdar forever, but I've been doubting it more and more lately. [00:37] spies8owen: Isaac, the gut and facts are there. [00:38] spies8mary: You do realize if you're wrong, his grandmother will haunt you. [00:39] spies8owen: You do realize if I'm right though, that it's been two seasons in a row where a spy has lost a grandma/grandpa. [00:39] spies8mary: Was the Spy lying last time? [00:39] spies8owen: Nope. [00:39] spies8owen: But a spy partner got caught while he was gone. [00:39] spies8owen: His grandfather actually won citizen MVP. [00:40] spies8owen: Only time a spy was caught towards the end. [00:40] spies8mary: Have you been having fun so far this game? [00:40] spies8owen: At times, yes. At times, nothing but stress. [00:40] spies8mary: I'll be glad when the twist is over. [00:40] spies8mary: I think there's less information to be gained this way. [00:40] spies8owen: I don't think it's gonna end soon. [00:41] spies8owen: For some reason I feel like I'm gonna have more to do after this. [00:41] spies8mary: At least you'll have help. [00:41] spies8owen: Since Sam said voting powers would eventually be given back. [00:41] spies8owen: I'm thinking I'll give it back to a few that I trust and others will earn it back. [00:41] spies8owen: Or whatever. [00:41] spies8mary: Did you get anything cool as a prize? [00:41] spies8mary: Like a crown or a box of cigars? [00:42] spies8owen: Sam didn't even post a thread in my confessional. [00:42] spies8owen: RUDE. [00:42] spies8mary: That's sad. [00:42] spies8mary: I would have expected at least a map of your new planet or small country. [00:42] spies8owen: He wouldn't even use an avatar that I wanted him to use. [00:42] spies8mary: I think you can change those yourself. [00:42] spies8owen: He clearly doesn't respect my authority. [00:43] spies8owen: I wanted him to wear it himself. [00:43] spies8mary: Oh. [00:43] spies8mary: I haven't smiled in about 20 years. [00:43] spies8mary: But that almost got me. [00:43] spies8owen: lmao. [00:43] spies8owen: You smell of onions again, dear. [00:43] spies8mary: What was the avatar? [00:44] spies8owen: His least favorite character in reality television history. [00:44] spies8mary: Hmm. [00:44] spies8owen: *whispers* I think it's because the guy is black and won. [00:46] spies8mary: locolicious: hello. i am supposed to relay a message that Gertrude's internet went out again spies8mary: Ok. spies8mary: Thank you for your Internet wizardry. locolicious: locolicious: anytime1 [00:46] spies8mary: That boggles my mind just a little. [00:46] spies8owen: LOL. [00:47] spies8mary: Gertrude must have sent her neighbor smoke signals. [00:47] spies8mary: Or used the old tin cans. [00:47] spies8mary: "Please tell spies8mary that the cat peed on my router." [00:47] spies8mary: "Who the **** is spies8mary?" [00:47] spies8mary: *static* [00:48] spies8owen: Most likely scenario. [00:48] spies8mary: What are you doing up at this hour, anyway? [00:49] spies8mary: 4AM is for talking with dead parents and having nightmares. [00:50] spies8owen: Hahahahaha, I took a short nap today, which turned into 4 hours of sleeping. [00:50] spies8mary: Won't that make you fat? [00:50] spies8owen: Worse things could happen. Fat is beautiful. [00:51] spies8owen: I could be ugly. [00:51] spies8owen: Or I could be Sam. OOOOOH OOOOOOOOH. Wear my avatar please, Sam. [00:51] spies8mary: I didn't realize you were so openminded on the excess weight thing. [00:52] spies8owen: Yeah, I wanna hug them every time I see them. [00:52] spies8mary: It's not really a problem for me, seeing as how I only eat tubers. [00:52] spies8owen: I would have hugged Cinnamyn, but it might be awkward for the situation. [00:52] spies8mary: I think that's a terrible idea. [00:53] spies8mary: If she loses her balance, it's all over. [00:54] spies8owen: Very true. Thanks for quite possibly saving my life. [00:54] spies8owen: Dr. Crowhurst won't be as lucky. [00:54] spies8mary: I hear his life is quite peaceful now, actually. [00:54] spies8mary: Have I mentioned it to you? [00:55] spies8mary: Apparently he just sits at home in a rocking chair all day. [00:55] spies8mary: And looks at his fiancee and says "What are you doing here?" [00:55] spies8mary: Over and over and over. [00:56] spies8owen: Ahh, living the life, I see. [00:56] spies8mary: I'm just glad to have escaped that dreadful work environment. [00:56] spies8mary: They'll have to track me down and drag me back kicking and screaming if they want me as a nurse again. [00:57] spies8owen: Would that be the first time you've been dragged into a hospital kicking and screaming? [00:58] spies8mary: No. I can't say I was thrilled with my assignment at Danvers. [00:58] spies8mary: You know how it is, I'm sure. [00:58] spies8mary: Kids screaming everywhere. [00:58] spies8mary: Pencils and papers flying. [00:58] spies8mary: BLood spatters on your glasses. [00:58] spies8mary: Everyone looks at you like you're crazy. [00:59] spies8owen: I don't wear glasses, but everything else rings a bell. [01:08] spies8mary: Do you need any help in making your decision? I imagine you're getting plenty. [01:09] spies8owen: Actually haven't gotten TOO much input tonight, though lots of people weren't around when I got back. [01:09] spies8owen: So far I've got 3 or 4 people saying Isaac to me. [01:09] spies8owen: None for Jenny. [01:09] spies8owen: Ones say NOT to vote Steph. [01:09] spies8owen: saying* [01:11] spies8mary: If you had to summarize your decision, how would you go about saying it right now? [01:12] spies8owen: *Owen takes the podium* [01:13] spies8owen: My fellow Spies8ians. [01:13] spies8mary: Good start. [01:13] spies8owen: I am voting for Isaac. Why, may you ask? [01:13] spies8owen: (3:20:36 AM) spies8gertrude: Lynch Isaac. (4:10:05 AM) spies8gertrude: Lynch Isaac. [01:14] spies8owen: Let me restart from after my fellow Spies8ians. [01:16] spies8owen: I'll be voting for Isaac tonight for many reasons, but one big one that has caught my eye ever since I first read up on him. ANYBODY can say anything in this game to appear citizen, but the people that don't seem to truly believe their thoughts are the biggest ones to watch for. If it were only myself that didn't feel Isaac's sincerity and that he really believed the things he said, this wouldn't be an issue. [01:16] spies8owen: K, this is more than a summary. [01:16] spies8owen: This is like my real speech. [01:16] spies8mary: You might want to eliminate the long pause. [01:16] spies8owen: Ohhh, good call. [01:16] spies8mary: Pacing is everything, Owen. [01:17] spies8owen: Would you like to be my spokeswoman and announce my vote and reasoning for me? [01:17] spies8owen: [01:17] spies8mary: Yes. [01:17] spies8mary: I doubt Sam will allow it. [01:17] spies8owen: Because he's rude. [01:17] spies8mary: But I'll rehearse in the mirror just in case. [01:17] spies8mary: Yes. [01:18] spies8owen: But yeah, that's the quick run-down. There's more to it, like stuff you pointed out. [01:18] spies8owen: A very shaky suspect list. [01:18] spies8mary: Every time I try to chat Sam up to say hi, he tells me he has to walk his dog. [01:18] spies8owen: And I don't think he even has a dog. [01:18] spies8mary: He doesn't even have a dog, Owen. [01:18] spies8mary: No. [01:21] spies8mary: spies8cory: You only eat dead fetuses [01:21] spies8mary: I think maybe we should set Cory and Sam up on a blind date. [01:21] spies8owen: Cory told me he was a homosexual the other day. [01:22] spies8owen: It might work. [01:22] spies8mary: That's odd. [01:22] spies8mary: I thought he was hitting on me earlier. [01:22] spies8mary: spies8cory: Don't make me get the baseball bat out. [01:22] spies8owen: He's a charmer, that Cory. [01:22] spies8mary: I don't quite know how to take that now. [01:23] spies8owen: Try to brace yourself from the hit of the bat. [01:23] spies8owen: It's the only way to take it.
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Post by Mary on Jul 7, 2010 2:28:33 GMT -6
[22:21] spies8mary: Hi. [22:22] spies8gertrude: Hey there, Mary. [22:22] spies8gertrude: Woah, font fail. [22:22] spies8mary: That's a bad color for you. [22:22] spies8gertrude: Yes, indeed. [22:22] spies8mary: Much better. [22:22] spies8mary: What color are your eyes? [22:22] spies8gertrude: I apologize for not responding earlier, my internet died. [22:23] spies8mary: It's ok. [22:23] spies8gertrude: The provider apparently had a power outage [22:23] spies8mary: That's a good excuse to cool down on a hot day. [22:23] spies8gertrude: My eyes are hazel/blue, depending on the season. [22:23] spies8gertrude: It's very odd. [22:23] spies8mary: The blue font suits you. [22:24] spies8gertrude: I think so, too. [22:24] spies8mary: What did you want to ask me earlier before votes were due? [22:24] spies8gertrude: Just who you were voting for, because you hadn't posted it. [22:24] spies8gertrude: But Tina said it was for Isaac. [22:25] spies8mary: Were you thinking of changing your vote? [22:25] spies8gertrude: Well, I was if Isaac wasn't getting enough votes. [22:25] spies8mary: Ok. [22:25] spies8mary: Cory did the same thing. [22:25] spies8gertrude: But then the internet died. [22:25] spies8gertrude: So I didn't get the chance to. [22:32] spies8mary: Who are your suspects right now besides Isaac and Rondak? [22:34] spies8gertrude: I feel like one of Allan/Claude (if not both) is a Spy.. [22:34] spies8gertrude: And I have yet to speak with Dane/Kiara [22:34] spies8gertrude: Not saying I suspect them [22:34] spies8gertrude: But I want to get some sort of read on them. [22:34] spies8mary: What is your reasoning on Allan/Claude? [22:35] spies8gertrude: Well, there's a doctor. There was a messenger. [22:35] spies8gertrude: I feel like 4 Citizen roles is kind of a lot. [22:42] spies8mary: How many have there been in past games? [22:42] spies8gertrude: I don't know. I will go look that up now. [22:43] spies8mary: Wait. [22:43] spies8gertrude: Ok. [22:43] spies8mary: There's also an exile immune person. [22:43] spies8gertrude: Do you think that's a town role? [22:43] spies8mary: No, but if you're looking for total roles. [22:43] spies8mary: We know of how many now? [22:44] spies8gertrude: Doctor, Messenger, Spy messenger, Exile Immune, Anonymater, Claude, Allan. [22:44] spies8gertrude: Looks like 7. [22:44] spies8mary: While you're there, maybe see how many Spy roles there usually are too. [22:44] spies8gertrude: Mmk. [22:45] spies8gertrude: I'm going to ask in the chat, too. [22:45] spies8gertrude: Oh wait. [22:45] spies8gertrude: And Nita's role. [00:04] spies8mary: Are you still there? [00:04] spies8gertrude: Somewhat. [00:04] spies8gertrude: What's up? [00:04] spies8gertrude: I'm reading, but I heard the beep. [00:04] spies8mary: Sorry, just got chatting with other people in the middle of our talk. [00:04] spies8gertrude: Oh, it's no problem [00:05] spies8mary: So you said Allan/Claude, Rondak and Isaac I think. [00:05] spies8gertrude: Yes. [00:05] spies8mary: I guess that means you trust Jenny? [00:05] spies8gertrude: Not really. [00:05] spies8mary: Where do you stand on her? [00:05] spies8gertrude: But more than those four. [00:06] spies8gertrude: Near the edge of the bed. It maximizes the pleasure. [00:06] spies8gertrude: No? Ok. [00:06] spies8mary: That was a joke, right? [00:06] spies8gertrude: Indeed. [00:07] spies8mary: Sorry, I'm a little out of practice. [00:07] spies8gertrude: It's ok. [00:07] spies8gertrude: It's probably all the onions. [00:07] spies8gertrude: Anyways, Jenny is a bit of a enigma at the moment. [00:07] spies8mary: There's a black cat looking in my window from the fence. [00:07] spies8mary: I just noticed. [00:07] spies8gertrude: Oh, wow. [00:08] spies8mary: I never realized how easy it is to see in here. [00:08] spies8gertrude: I feel like more people suspect her than I would expect, and I wonder if it's a Spy bandwagon. [00:08] spies8mary: A lot of people do. [00:08] spies8mary: I made a case. [00:08] spies8mary: And that plus the Nita thing plus the Allan roleclaim thing [00:09] spies8mary: Made her a very popular vote. [00:09] spies8mary: If Nita came to me I would have tattled on her in a heartbeat. [00:10] spies8gertrude: Mmm, me too. [00:10] spies8mary: I find it a little difficult to understand why Jenny didn't if she is a Citizen. [00:10] spies8mary: I find it difficult to believe the Spies would take the whole mess public if she's a Spy. [00:10] spies8gertrude: But then why out herself if she were a Spy? [00:11] spies8mary: The only possible reason is cold calculation. [00:11] spies8gertrude: How do you mean? [00:11] spies8mary: She'd have to execute on her team's plan to make her look more Citizen from it. [00:13] spies8gertrude: I'm still not following. [00:14] spies8gertrude: Execute on her team's plan? [00:14] spies8gertrude: Oh, wait. [00:14] spies8gertrude: I got it. [00:14] spies8mary: She doesn't seem very devious, does she? [00:14] spies8gertrude: No. [00:14] spies8gertrude: But, of course, that could be a ploy. [00:14] spies8mary: Right. [00:15] spies8mary: But if she's a Spy, their whole team had to know about this. [00:15] spies8mary: And decide to kill Nita when they did. [00:15] spies8gertrude: True. [00:15] spies8mary: And plan Jenny's response. [00:15] spies8gertrude: Also true. [00:15] spies8gertrude: Unless she broke the plan. [00:15] spies8gertrude: But yes. [00:16] spies8mary: It's hard to believe that "Don't say a word" didn't win in the vote at the Spy ski chalet. [00:16] spies8gertrude: Ha. [00:16] spies8gertrude: Exactly. [00:16] spies8mary: She was definitely getting in trouble at the time Nita was killed. [00:18] spies8mary: What do you think of Chance? [00:19] spies8gertrude: Well, apparently Broderick thinks I have a protection mentality towards him.. [00:19] spies8gertrude: But I don't know. [00:19] spies8mary: Broderick didn't list Chance as a suspect. [00:19] spies8mary: Why would he mention that? [00:19] spies8gertrude: I'm surprised that he didn't get attention this round. [00:19] spies8gertrude: Well, when I pointed out him assaulting Chance (and Jasmine and Stephanie) [00:19] spies8gertrude: He said.. [00:20] spies8gertrude: I assaulted Chance? Did you read the entire transcript? I believe I had asked two maybe three questions before he lashed out at me. Then proceeded to call me monkey and other names. I know you have a protection mentality towards Chance, but the guy is not clear of fault Gertrude. [00:20] spies8mary: Do you think Chance is a spy? [00:21] spies8mary: I need to start asking that differently. [00:21] spies8mary: Is Chance a spy? [00:21] spies8gertrude: I doubt it. [00:21] spies8mary: He's one of my top suspects. [00:22] spies8gertrude: I recall that, yes. [00:22] spies8mary: What would you say to change my mind? [00:22] spies8gertrude: Oh, gosh, I don't know. I don't know if I would even try to change your mind, to be honest. He very well could be. I'm just not convinced. [00:23] spies8gertrude: I guess if Chance was a Spy he wouldn't have posted case on Jenny claiming that Gabriel was the Doctor. [00:23] spies8mary: Why not? [00:24] spies8gertrude: Well, I'd assume all the Spies would know that the "Spy Messenger" sent that message to Allan, not Savannah. [00:24] spies8gertrude: And, consequently, Chance would know. [00:24] spies8gertrude: If he was indeed a Spy. [00:25] spies8mary: Why? Did doing it make Chance look worse? [00:26] spies8gertrude: I'm sorry? [00:26] spies8mary: Why wouldn't a Spy do what Chance did? [00:26] spies8gertrude: Well, because a Spy would know that Gabriel wasn't the Doctor, or at the very least would know that a message had been sent to Allan saying he was. [00:27] spies8gertrude: But not a legitimate message. [00:27] spies8mary: Is that your main piece of evidence on Chance? [00:28] spies8mary: Have you seen anything else over the past four episodes that jumped out at you and said "He's a Citizen" or "He's a Spy"? [00:29] spies8gertrude: Maybe my logic doesn't connect somewhere [00:29] spies8gertrude: Oh my gosh. [00:29] spies8gertrude: Wait. [00:29] spies8gertrude: I missed those two messages, I thought you still hadn't responded before. [00:29] spies8mary: Ok. [00:30] spies8gertrude: I had apparently accidentally scrolled up. [00:30] spies8gertrude: Ok, let me think about Chance. [00:32] spies8gertrude: Well, for one. [00:32] spies8gertrude: Chance always thinks outside the box. [00:33] spies8gertrude: From Episode 1, where he approached both you and I about "switching votes" or whatever [00:33] spies8mary: Did you take him up on it? [00:33] spies8gertrude: You know the answer to that. [00:33] spies8gertrude: I voted for Camilla. [00:33] spies8gertrude: I politely declined. [00:34] spies8gertrude: However, I felt his intentions were genuine. [00:34] spies8gertrude: To the Jenny case. [00:34] spies8gertrude: His ideas aren't conformed at all, and it makes him stick out more than a Spy would like to. [00:34] spies8gertrude: I'm not sure if that makes any sense. [00:34] spies8gertrude: But it's how I feel. [00:37] spies8mary: What do you think of his approach towards Claude? [00:39] Meebo Message: spies8gertrude is offline [00:43] Meebo Message: spies8gertrude is online [00:47] spies8gertrude: Testing [00:47] spies8mary: Hi. [00:48] spies8gertrude: Hi. [00:48] spies8gertrude: Sorry about that! [00:48] spies8gertrude: Did my response ever go through? [00:48] spies8mary: It's ok, at least you have a neighbor with Internet. [00:48] spies8gertrude: Indeed. [00:48] spies8mary: Did you relay the message via pigeon? [00:48] spies8mary: I got it fairly quickly. [00:49] spies8gertrude: Mm [00:49] spies8gertrude: Sure. [00:49] spies8gertrude: Let's go with pigeon. [00:49] spies8mary: spies8mary: What do you think of his approach towards Claude? [00:49] spies8mary: That was a question about Chance. [00:50] spies8gertrude: Oh, so did my response to your first one go through? [00:50] spies8gertrude: [02:33] spies8gertrude: You know the answer to that. [02:33] spies8gertrude: I voted for Camilla. [02:33] spies8gertrude: I politely declined. [02:34] spies8gertrude: However, I felt his intentions were genuine. [02:34] spies8gertrude: To the Jenny case. [02:34] spies8gertrude: His ideas aren't conformed at all, and it makes him stick out more than a Spy would like to. [02:34] spies8gertrude: I'm not sure if that makes any sense. [02:34] spies8gertrude: But it's how I feel. [00:51] spies8mary: Yes. [00:51] spies8mary: You feel that way about his approach to Claude? [00:51] spies8gertrude: I think his approach towards Claude has improved more than Claude's approach towards Chance. [00:51] spies8gertrude: No, I was just making sure my internet didn't die too early. [00:52] spies8mary: Do you know if Chance has re-evaluated Claude since episode 1? [00:52] spies8gertrude: I don't. [00:53] spies8gertrude: But I have noticed that they aren't at each other's throat as much as usual. [00:55] spies8mary: I would think that if Chance really wanted to know the truth he'd look at Claude's actions every episode and see if they fit his theory. [00:56] spies8gertrude: Which theory? [00:57] spies8mary: That Claude is a Spy. [00:57] spies8mary: I mean, haven't you changed opinions on people? [00:58] spies8gertrude: Oh, yes. [00:59] spies8mary: So do you get the sense Chance is doing the same? [00:59] spies8mary: His suspicions were Jasmine and Claude episode 1. [00:59] spies8mary: They're still Jasmine and Claude. [00:59] spies8gertrude: That's a good point. [01:01] spies8gertrude: I believe he just logged on. [01:01] spies8mary: locolicious is now an AIM buddy of mine. [01:01] spies8gertrude: He's a good man. [01:01] spies8gertrude: He brings cookies over occasionally. [01:02] spies8gertrude: I return the favor by picking up my dog's droppings when he goes in their yard. [01:02] spies8mary: Do you fancy him? [01:02] spies8mary: If you want to see if he's a keeper, do what I do. [01:02] spies8gertrude: What's the test? [01:02] spies8mary: Gaze at him dreamily until he notices. [01:03] spies8mary: Then, when he asks what you're doing, whisper, "Just admiring the shape of your skull." [01:03] spies8mary: If he sticks around, there's potential. [01:03] spies8gertrude: Ahhh. [01:03] spies8gertrude: I should try that. [01:04] spies8gertrude: Let me know if he asks about me. [01:08] spies8gertrude: What do you think about Owen? [01:10] spies8mary: Cory just asked me that same question. [01:10] spies8mary: That's impressive timing. [01:10] spies8gertrude: Maybe I should start gazing at him, then. [01:10] spies8mary: I think Owen's more likely than not a good guy. [01:11] spies8gertrude: [03:11] spies8gertrude: *gazes at you dreamily* [03:11] spies8cory: Chance, JasMan, and Gertrude [03:11] spies8cory: They all want a piece of the raptor. [03:11] spies8gertrude: Just admiring the shape of your skull. [03:11] spies8cory: I hope you don't mind that I smoke a pipe. [01:12] spies8gertrude: What do I say? [01:12] spies8mary: Are you into gay men? [01:12] spies8gertrude: LOL [01:12] spies8mary: Because I think that's pretty clear implication right there. [01:12] spies8gertrude: Hahahahahahahaha [01:15] spies8mary: Do you think there will be a coup if Owen doesn't exile a Spy? [01:15] spies8gertrude: No. [01:15] spies8gertrude: Or, there shouldn't be. [01:15] spies8mary: It might be fun. [01:15] spies8gertrude: We nominated them, after all. [01:15] spies8mary: I've never been to a coup before. [01:16] spies8mary: What would we wear? [01:16] spies8gertrude: Floral patterns work. [01:17] spies8mary: Ok. [01:23] spies8mary: I've noticed that very strange conversations happen at this hour. [01:23] spies8gertrude: Mmm. [01:23] spies8gertrude: I talk to my parents sometimes around now if I'm awake. [01:24] spies8mary: spies8mary: I think maybe we should set Cory and Sam up on a blind date. [04:21] spies8owen: Cory told me he was a homosexual the other day. [04:22] spies8owen: It might work. [04:22] spies8mary: That's odd. [04:22] spies8mary: I thought he was hitting on me earlier. [04:22] spies8mary: spies8cory: Don't make me get the baseball bat out. [04:22] spies8owen: He's a charmer, that Cory. [04:22] spies8mary: I don't quite know how to take that now. [01:24] spies8gertrude: Ha.
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Post by Mary on Jul 7, 2010 2:29:06 GMT -6
[00:29] spies8mary: Hi. [00:29] spies8cory: Oh god it's BLOODY MARY [00:29] spies8cory: I mean, uhhh, hi. [00:30] spies8mary: What are you doing? [00:30] spies8cory: I am reading philosophy [00:30] spies8cory: What are you doing [00:30] spies8mary: I find that difficult to believe. [00:30] spies8cory: I am the Philosoraptor, babe. [00:30] spies8cory: What else would I be doing? [00:30] spies8mary: Who is your favorite philosopher? [00:31] spies8cory: Usually wise men involved with the revolution [00:31] spies8cory: As I am also a historian [00:31] spies8mary: I find it difficult to believe a philosoraptor would take so long to answer. [00:31] spies8cory: Philosoraptors think long and hard, bloody Mary. [00:31] spies8mary: I'd say maybe you're more of a philosofieldmouse. [00:32] spies8mary: Here, have some cheese. [00:32] spies8cory: Great. The nurse has dubbed me a mouse. Will I be a test mouse? [00:32] spies8cory: A lab mouse, they call them. [00:32] spies8cory: Will you poke me with needles? [00:32] spies8mary: I don't want to talk about work. [00:32] spies8mary: I've escaped for the time being and if they want me they'll have to come and find me. [00:32] spies8cory: The police, you mean. [00:33] spies8cory: By the way. Heads up. Lilith is a cop. [00:33] spies8cory: Best avoid her. [00:33] spies8mary: You should be more afraid of the mail lady. [00:34] spies8cory: I'm afraid of women who stab their fiancees repeatedly. [00:34] spies8mary: It's fiance. [00:35] spies8cory: Okay, Gertrude. [00:35] spies8mary: And more specifically, ex-fiance. [00:35] spies8mary: If that. [00:35] spies8cory: The late Doctor Crowhurst. [00:35] spies8cory: You sure have a thing for killing doctors. [00:35] spies8mary: He's not dead. [00:35] spies8mary: I don't know why you keep saying that. [00:35] spies8cory: Did you kill Gabriel, too? [00:35] spies8mary: Sigh. [00:36] spies8cory: Word has it that he is the doctor. [00:36] spies8cory: And, Mary. [00:36] spies8cory: Those eye would kill a kid like Gabriel [00:36] spies8cory: Just saying. [00:36] spies8cory: Mary? [00:36] spies8cory: Hello? [00:36] spies8cory: Mary? [00:38] spies8mary: Hi. [00:39] spies8cory: Hello. [00:39] spies8cory: Who am I speaking with? [00:39] spies8mary: I don't like you very much. [00:39] spies8cory: Simon? [00:39] spies8cory: What happened to Mary? [00:39] spies8cory: Is she sleeping? [00:40] spies8mary: This is Mary. [00:40] spies8cory: Where is Simon? [00:41] spies8mary: I don't know any Siimon. [00:42] spies8cory: You mentioned a Simon to me the other night, Mary. [00:42] spies8cory: Think long and hard. [00:43] spies8mary: You must be thinking of someone else, Cory. [00:44] spies8cory: Unless you want to lose your lunch money for the rest of the week, you will tell me all you know of this Simon, Mary. [00:44] spies8cory: I'm warning you. [00:44] spies8cory: Don't make me get the baseball bat out. [00:44] spies8mary: Maybe another time, Cory. [00:44] spies8cory: Mary. [00:44] spies8cory: This is your last chance. [00:44] spies8mary: He's not in the mood to play right now. [00:44] spies8cory: So you admit he exists. [00:44] spies8cory: This is a good start. [00:45] spies8cory: Ask him what he did with Claude's eye. [00:45] spies8mary: I don't think we took it. [00:47] spies8cory: Give up your "precious" [00:47] spies8cory: I'll beat that Simon down [00:47] spies8cory: Break his knee caps [00:47] spies8cory: Philoslap the shit out of him [00:48] spies8cory: Philososlap [00:49] spies8cory: What you did to Claude was downright unconstitutional [00:49] spies8cory: My boy Thomas J would be displeased. [00:50] spies8cory: And you do not displease my boy, Simon. [00:50] spies8mary: Oh, so Simon is your boy. [00:50] spies8mary: Now it's all becoming clear. [00:51] spies8cory: Simon is probably one of your fucking deranged children whose corpse you devoured before he got to be as old as Gabriel [00:52] spies8cory: What about Princess? Who was she? [00:53] spies8mary: Princess lives in the tongue. [00:54] spies8mary: She likes to talk and talk and talkandtalkandtalkandtalkandtalk. [00:55] spies8cory: Woman, you frighten me. [00:56] spies8cory: You need to cleanse your mind of that Freddy Kruger bullshit, asap. [00:57] spies8mary: What Freddy Krueger stuff? [00:59] spies8cory: Lol. [00:59] spies8cory: The innocent act. [00:59] spies8cory: Mary, where are the children? [01:00] spies8mary: Cory, surprise me. [01:00] spies8cory: *flashes you* [01:00] spies8mary: Cory, that's about the last thing I need right now. [01:01] spies8mary: Small hassles. [01:01] spies8cory: Bitch, what did you just say? [01:01] spies8cory: You're lucky you scare me more than any man, otherwise I'd hurt you. [01:03] spies8cory: "If you commit a big crime then you are crazy, and the more heinous the crime the crazier you must be. Therefore you are not responsible, and nothing is your fault." [01:04] spies8cory: This is the philosophy by which you live. [01:04] spies8cory: I say, snap out of it. [01:04] spies8cory: Where are the children buried? [01:05] spies8mary: Peter's buried with mommy and daddy. [01:05] spies8mary: I visit and talk with them a lot. [01:08] spies8cory: Bloody Mary, is Owen a Spy or a Citizen? [01:09] spies8mary: He seems ok to me. [01:09] spies8mary: What do you think? [01:09] spies8cory: I think he is a good guy. [01:12] spies8cory: Will you be imprisoning him once his immunity fades away? [01:13] spies8mary: I'm not a Spy, Cory. [01:13] spies8cory: Maybe you are not. Maybe. [01:13] spies8cory: We will get you, Mary. [01:13] spies8cory: We will get you. [01:13] spies8mary: There's something not quite right about you. [01:14] spies8mary: It's probably nothing serious. [01:14] spies8cory: Lol! [01:14] spies8mary: Nothing a metal pipette couldn't solve. [01:14] spies8cory: Mary just insinuated that I am insane? [01:14] spies8cory: Mary I have many questions about your childhood. [01:14] spies8cory: But I grow weary [01:17] spies8mary: Tell me about it. [01:18] spies8mary: You're more tiresome than the two Tylenol PM I took last night. [01:18] spies8cory: Was that a suicide attempt? [01:18] spies8cory: Because that sure was a weak one. [01:19] spies8mary: I weigh about 79 pounds. [01:19] spies8mary: It had me thinking this morning that Katie Couric was the Mona Lisa. [01:19] spies8cory: Do you eat nothing but cat food? [01:19] spies8cory: Christ woman [01:19] spies8mary: I only eat tubers. [01:20] spies8cory: You only eat dead fetuses [01:20] spies8mary: Gross. [01:20] spies8cory: No wonder why you're a nurse. [01:21] spies8cory: It's all so clear to me, now. [01:21] spies8cory: The eye of the Philosoraptor sees all, they say. [01:21] spies8cory: Must be the monocle.
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Post by Mary on Jul 7, 2010 2:29:31 GMT -6
[00:45] locolicious: hello. i am supposed to relay a message that Gertrude's internet went out again [00:45] spies8mary: Ok. [00:45] spies8mary: Thank you for your Internet wizardry. [00:45] locolicious: [00:45] locolicious: anytime1
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Post by Mary on Jul 7, 2010 3:03:45 GMT -6
[01:34] spies8owen: I want to take everything you say in put it in my signature. [01:34] spies8owen: Unfortunately there's not enough room for that. [01:44] spies8mary: You could always rent out a sperm whale and slap our conversations on the side of it in red paint.
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Post by Mary on Jul 7, 2010 3:09:04 GMT -6
[01:30] spies8gertrude: I have a question for you. [01:30] spies8mary: Ok. [01:30] spies8gertrude: Which of the following are the most suspicious to you? Awohali, Broderick, and Tina. [01:32] spies8mary: That's a tough question. I'd probably say Broderick. [01:32] spies8mary: Although I haven't touched base with Awohali lately to see what his thought processes are. [01:32] spies8mary: I've gotten good vibes from Tina in our talks and from reading group chats. [01:33] spies8mary: Broderick made a good suspicions post that I don't entirely agree with. [01:33] spies8mary: But I liked his thought processes and attention to detail. [01:33] spies8mary: I think his case on you is good. [01:34] spies8gertrude: Do you think I'm a Spy? [01:34] spies8mary: I don't agree with his cases on Jasmine and Lilith though I see his points. [01:34] spies8mary: I think you could be a Spy, yes. [01:34] spies8gertrude: Ok. [01:35] spies8gertrude: I'm sorry that you think that. [01:35] spies8mary: I don't feel like you're considering evidence as much as you're looking out for your image. [01:35] spies8gertrude: That's what Cory said, too. [01:35] spies8gertrude: Hmm. [01:35] spies8mary: He probably copied me. [01:36] spies8mary: I'll have to check my logs with him. [01:36] spies8gertrude: Ha. [01:36] spies8mary: You've been with Chance for 4 episodes and struggled to give me an explanation for your stated position on him. [01:39] spies8mary: You seem to have about 2 1/2 suspects. [01:40] spies8mary: And you've alternately bandwagoned and dithered about not wanting to appear bandwagony in your votes. [01:40] spies8gertrude: Yes. [01:40] spies8mary: With poor results. [01:41] spies8gertrude: Also, yes. [01:42] spies8gertrude: Is there anything I have done that coincides with a Citizen? [01:42] spies8mary: One moment, trying to come up with just the right word for something. [01:48] spies8mary: Ok, so as to your Citizenship. [01:49] spies8mary: The short answer is "not really". [01:50] spies8mary: I've seen you make some logical observations that indicate you're smarter than 90% of the people in this game. [01:50] spies8gertrude: Like what? [01:50] spies8mary: I haven't seen you use that reasoning power in the quest for suspects. [01:50] spies8gertrude: Not to toot my own horn, but I'm surprised. [01:50] spies8mary: I'd have to dumpster dive for it, but I'm positive I've seen examples from you. [01:51] spies8mary: The point is, you're intentionally underperforming. [01:51] spies8gertrude: Well, I'd disagree with that. [01:51] spies8mary: Ok. [01:51] spies8gertrude: Though I can see what you mean [01:51] spies8mary: Why? [01:51] spies8gertrude: Because, I'm disappointed in myself. [01:51] spies8gertrude: And I don't mean to make this some sort of pity speech [01:52] spies8gertrude: but catching Spies has been more difficult than I thought it would be. [01:54] spies8gertrude: I'm disappointed in myself because I can't find any substantial evidence against people, and I feel incredibly inadequate when trying to say, "I just have a feeling." [01:54] spies8mary: Which six people do you have a feeling about? [01:55] spies8gertrude: I'd say... [01:55] spies8gertrude: Isaac Rondak Allan Kiara Lawrence and Awohali. [01:55] spies8gertrude: Or Tina instead of Awohali. [01:55] spies8gertrude: Not sure. [01:55] spies8gertrude: I feel like one of the three of them (+ Broderick) is a Spy. [01:56] spies8gertrude: I know throwing in Kiara is odd since I haven't really talked with her [01:56] spies8mary: That's the first comment I was going to have. [01:56] spies8gertrude: However, like I said, it's a feeling. She's much too quiet. [01:56] spies8mary: Ok. [01:56] spies8mary: She has about three posts in the Burg. [01:56] spies8gertrude: Exactly. [01:56] spies8mary: And she seems to be a follower of other peoples' ideas. [01:57] spies8mary: You suspect Awohali based on the same feeling? [01:58] spies8gertrude: No, a different one. [01:58] spies8gertrude: I feel like one of those three people cannot be a Citizen just because I think the Spies must have some leader figure. [01:58] spies8gertrude: Someone who acts so town that they gain the trust of the Citizens. [02:00] spies8mary: You think Sam picks teams intentionally such that there's a leader figure on each side? [02:00] spies8gertrude: No, no. [02:00] spies8gertrude: But I feel like one would emerge. [02:00] spies8gertrude: Otherwise all of the Spies would be picked off very easily. [02:00] spies8mary: Why just one? [02:00] spies8gertrude: Well, not necessarily just one. [02:01] spies8gertrude: I was actually about to add that. [02:05] spies8mary: What makes you think Spy instead of lazy Citizen about Rondak?
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Post by Mary on Jul 7, 2010 13:49:35 GMT -6
[11:23] spies8mary: Hi. [11:23] Spies8Awohali: Osiyo, Mary. How are you? [11:23] spies8mary: Ok. [11:23] spies8mary: I have a question for you. [11:23] Spies8Awohali: I will almost certainly have an answer for you. [11:23] spies8mary: A few actually. [11:23] spies8mary: First, where do you stand on things in general right now? [11:24] spies8mary: We haven't talked much lately. [11:24] Spies8Awohali: This is true, and that is most unfortunate. I am, at the moment, catching up on the Burg, reading of this mysterious vote coverup. It makes me feel fairly confident that Stephanie is a frame-up of sorts, otherwise there would have been no reason to use such a role ability, which I am guessing will be a rare ability for the Spies. [11:25] Spies8Awohali: The two trains of throught leaving that station seem to be "Jenny and Isaac are Spuies" and "Either Claude or Rondak is a Spy"... At the moment, I see no reason why it should not be either one, or even a combination of both. [11:26] spies8mary: What makes you think Stephanie is being framed? [11:26] Spies8Awohali: So my suspicion of Jenny is reinforced, and a growing new suspicion for Rondak and Isaac has surfaced. Claude, I still feel has redeemed himself lately. [11:27] Spies8Awohali: Well, she is the only person who gained an extra vote that she should not have gained, otherwise Claude and Rondak should have tied with her and would have been in the nomination que as well. It is possible, I am willing to admit, that perhaps she is a Spy too, and that the Spies were only trying to prevent Rondak/Claude from getting in the que [11:28] spies8mary: I was told all day yesterday that Owen did not suspect Stephanie. [11:29] spies8mary: Unless the Spies are deaf or I am privy to inside information they aren't, I can't imagine they wouldn't have heard that. [11:29] Spies8Awohali: I was not aware of that, having not been around much yesterday. If that is truly the case, then it is probably that either Rondak or Claude is a Spy [11:29] Spies8Awohali: probable* [11:30] spies8mary: When I first saw the action, I was sure Claude had done it. [11:30] spies8mary: As a Citizen or as a Spy. [11:30] spies8mary: And I think he's more likely a Citizen. [11:30] spies8mary: But he denies it flat out. [11:31] Spies8Awohali: I imagine he would not wish to admit it in any case, but I think that if he were a Citizen, well, I hope, at least, that he would know better than to lie about that. [11:31] spies8mary: What makes you more comfortable with Claude lately? [11:31] spies8mary: I know you've suspected him for some time. [11:31] Spies8Awohali: Making votes anonymous certainly seems to serve Spies better than Citizens, though. If it is his role, I would not like that. [11:31] spies8mary: I agree. [11:31] spies8mary: But Sam has a history of making us look bad for guessing at things like that. [11:32] Spies8Awohali: He is finally starting to slightly break away from his early game playing style, which was a selfish, forceful style that ignores others and sometimes reality, and focuses on what he wants. And yes, Sam does indeed have a history of that. [11:33] Spies8Awohali: The only thing that has put me slightly off, is that he seems to be using this situation to assert that Isaac should be going [11:35] Spies8Awohali: At the moment, we are assuming that Isaac did not vote for Stephanie, though, correct? [11:35] spies8mary: Are you asking about Claude? [11:35] spies8mary: Spies8Awohali: The only thing that has put me slightly off, is that he seems to be using this situation to assert that Isaac should be going [11:35] spies8mary: As far as I can tell, he has been. [11:36] Spies8Awohali: Indeed, and yes, and that poiints to his typical play style, which I have not liked since the game began. I try not to let that influence how I think in terms of suspicion, but his play style happens to be beneficial to him and his role. [11:37] spies8mary: If Isaac voted for Stephanie and is a Citizen [11:37] spies8mary: The apparent vote count would have been 5-4-4-3-3 I think, according to Tina. [11:38] Spies8Awohali: Do you think that Clasude would have received two role abilities in the same round? Since he allegedly used his vote restriction on Allan, we should be able to confirm that quite easily. [11:38] spies8mary: I asked him that. [11:38] Spies8Awohali: That sounds correct, yes. [11:38] spies8mary: I need to go back and look at old games, but it doesn't seem unusual that someone should have a daily role and then a one or two-time superpower. [11:39] Spies8Awohali: Then we can not rule him out as the culprit. [11:39] Spies8Awohali: From a selfish standpoint, I can see why he would wish to remove himself from the nomination que, regardless of alignment [11:39] spies8mary: I think what happened makes him look bad. [11:39] spies8mary: Right. [11:40] spies8mary: Considering he was not really at risk, it seems like an odd gamble either way for him to take. [11:40] Spies8Awohali: But as you say, it looks bad, especially that he denies it fully and is using it to promote a theory for Isaac being a Spy. [11:40] Spies8Awohali: It would not be the first odd gamble he has taken this game. [11:40] Spies8Awohali: I still do not like his initial role claim. [11:40] spies8mary: What do you think of Gertrude? [11:41] Spies8Awohali: By Gertrude, are you referring to the One Who Bandwagons All Votes? [11:41] spies8mary: Yes, or The One Who Is Worried About Appearing to Bandwagon. [11:42] spies8mary: I'm sure your people have a term for it. [11:42] Spies8Awohali: We do... Ulvnotisili [11:43] spies8mary: I'll have a t-shirt made for her. [11:44] Spies8Awohali: I think that she will be excited. She can wear it as she parades her Worst Person in the World Award everywhere. I do see Gertrude as rather peculiar. She says it is because she is from a Survivor background. [11:44] Spies8Awohali: But she also said early on, after I discussed it with her, that she was learning and moving away from that mindset... She does not appear to be doing that in actuality. [11:45] spies8mary: I agree. [11:45] spies8mary: Does she assess your alignment? [11:46] Spies8Awohali: Not to my knowledge. She rarely assesses anything, from what I have seen. She answers what she must, and that is it. [11:46] spies8mary: Does she ask you about your suspicions? [11:48] Spies8Awohali: I will have to review my logs for I do not wish to speak falsely about her, but I do not believe she has, at least not recently. She may have in the first two rounds, but if she did, not extensively. [11:48] Spies8Awohali: I am guessing that she has not been particularly grilling of you, either? [11:48] spies8mary: She asked me last night who I suspected most, you, Tina or Broderick. [11:48] spies8mary: It was probably the most unusual and unexpected question I've gotten in this game. [11:49] Spies8Awohali: That is interesting... Did she explain the nature of the question? [11:50] spies8mary: No. [11:50] spies8mary: I answered it carefully. [11:50] spies8mary: It looked a little like an attempt to find trusted Citizen relationships. [11:51] spies8mary: She said she asked because she has a theory. [11:51] spies8mary: That the Spies have a leader. [11:51] spies8mary: And apparently you three are candidates. [11:51] Spies8Awohali: This is an interesting theory... Has she any reason why one of the three of us would be it? [11:52] spies8mary: No. [11:52] Spies8Awohali: If it is not a brand new theory, I find it odd that she has not at least spoken with me more privately when we are both online. Perhaps she is intending to do so in the future. [11:52] spies8mary: That's what I was thinking. [11:53] Spies8Awohali: I will certainly keep you posted, should she actually follow up on her theory. It does sound like a potentially probe-like question, though. [11:54] spies8mary: She asked if I'd seen her do anything Citizen-like. [11:54] spies8mary: I said the short answer is no. [11:55] Spies8Awohali: Wow. She actually asked that? [11:55] spies8mary: Do you think she's faking her poor play? [11:55] spies8mary: spies8gertrude: Is there anything I have done that coincides with a Citizen? [11:55] Spies8Awohali: I can certainly see that being the case. I am not close-minded t the idea that she may be a Survivor player, but she is an intelligent person and has not improved or changed anything yet, 4 episodes in. [11:56] spies8mary: I have seen evidence that both she and Rondak are faking their poor play. [11:56] Spies8Awohali: I can not imagine ever asking someone whether or not I have done anything to look Citizen though. [11:56] Spies8Awohali: Do you have examples of this evidence?> [11:56] spies8mary: I believe I've seen Gertrude make logically correct statements about mafia theory. [11:57] spies8mary: Things a pure Survivor player probably wouldn't have grasped so quickly. [11:57] spies8mary: I believe Rondak has also started to shed his skin selectively. [11:57] spies8mary: Perhaps they are just quick learners. [11:58] spies8mary: But it came across differently from Margot who seemed genuinely lost. [11:58] Spies8Awohali: It is possible, though I would expect different actions from Getrude if that is the case. I still know almost nothing about Rondak. I can not catch him online at all. [11:58] Spies8Awohali: Yes, I have never considered Getrude at the same level of Margot. [11:58] spies8mary: I will try to find a clip from group chat. [11:59] Spies8Awohali: I would greatly appreciate that [12:00] spies8mary: spies8rondak: So, the motives behind the imprisonment could be that Gabriel was a capable citizen, and since his only suspicion was a citizen, his imprisonment would prevent us from gaining any real leads? [12:00] spies8mary: spies8rondak: What are your thoughts about her posted suspicions now that her third party role was revealed? [12:01] spies8mary: spies8rondak: Is challenge effort, whether poor or excellent, indicative of alignment? [12:01] Spies8Awohali: He seems to have a firm grasp on game issues, indeed. [12:01] Spies8Awohali: Does he actively feign ignorance, or is he just so absent that it is assumed he is not good? [12:02] spies8mary: spies8rondak: Jenny claims to be experienced in Spies, has taken chunks of her time to teach me mafia theory, and yet really hasn't done a lot of hunting.She's helpful in a lot of other ways, but not really helpful in terms of spy catching. Specifically, her obsession with Zedekiah for the first round and a half, then her sudden drop of him to vote Stephanie at the end. [12:02] spies8mary: spies8mary: Why do you find Zed suspicious, Rondak? [13:19] spies8rondak: Mostly first round stuff from the Republicans. [13:19] spies8rondak: And then he seemed to get better, really. [13:19] spies8rondak: Almost like he's being coached. [12:03] spies8mary: spies8rondak: Yes, I thought that, as a seasoned mafia player, one would figure she'd have more suspects than just Zedekiah. [12:03] Spies8Awohali: A play straight from the Jenny playbook, for sure. Distancing, perhaps, but maybe not [12:03] spies8mary: spies8rondak: So, Round 1, he freaks out, gets suspicions, makes the HQ slip, then Round 2 he makes a post in the Burg claiming that Themba, a citizen, is his #1 suspect. And also says that Savannah is a "bit scummy." [13:31] spies8rondak: This isn't suspicious at all to you now? [13:31] spies8rondak: And then the heat drops off him altogether. [12:03] spies8mary: Anyhow, he is savvy. [12:04] Spies8Awohali: Yes he certainly seems to be. [12:04] spies8mary: And probably knew the term "bussing" all along. [12:04] Spies8Awohali: Has he claimed to not know what it is? [12:04] spies8mary: Stephanie suspected him for that on the first day. [12:05] spies8mary: spies8mary: Did you get much of a read on Rondak? [16:25] spies8stephanie: which is i guess how lawrence is slipping under the radar [16:25] spies8stephanie: haha [16:26] spies8mary: I guess that's a no. [16:26] spies8mary: You seemed to suspect him a little at one point. [16:26] spies8stephanie: i brought forth an early suspicion of rondak that has been called the stupidest thing ever by more people than i can count [16:26] spies8mary: Oh, the bussed thing. [12:06] Spies8Awohali: Ah. I would very much like to speak with Rondak, perhaps about game theory, and see how much he claims to know when his own actions are put to the test. [12:06] spies8mary: I don't feel like you've given me a firm answer on Gertrude. [12:06] spies8mary: Who would your list of six spies be right now if you had to pick? [12:07] Spies8Awohali: Regarding suspecting her? I do, to answer it in short form. [12:08] Spies8Awohali: Taking this new information into consideration, even though I am still processing it inwardly, I would see a list of Jenny, Rondak, Chance/Claude, Gertrude, and probably two fringe Spies that are not currently in the heat, maybe a Jasmine or Kiara type. I do not know enough about them yet. [12:08] spies8mary: Ok. [12:09] Spies8Awohali: I certainly do not believe that all of the Spies are under current heat. Lawrence is another good possibility for a fringe Spy. [12:09] spies8mary: Do you think Isaac is a Citizen? [12:10] Spies8Awohali: I do not, but I do not necessarily belive he is a Spy, either. He is more suspicious than not, but I am not ready to crucify him yet, since he is seeming to get plenty of focus already. [12:10] spies8mary: Ok. [12:10] Spies8Awohali: It would be nice if he were around... I have not spoken with him since he was removed from our team [12:11] spies8mary: I told Owen that if he exiles Isaac and is wrong that he will probably be haunted by Isaac's grandmother. [12:12] Spies8Awohali: That would be most unfortunate. Is Isaac's grandmother a nice lady? [12:12] spies8mary: I don't know, but he's at her funeral right now. [12:13] spies8mary: If I lived closer, I could go meet her at the cemetery and find out if she's nice. [12:13] Spies8Awohali: Perhaps you would be able to ask her about her son's shady dealings behind closed doors, as well. I had forgotten that this is the reason why he has been absent. [12:13] spies8mary: I like the spirits. They never lie. [12:14] spies8mary: They have no reason to. [12:14] Spies8Awohali: They have no motive to lie, for the most part. It is nice to have someone like that around [12:14] spies8mary: Apparently you've spoken with a few as well. [12:14] spies8mary: It explains your unique perspective. [12:14] Spies8Awohali: Yes, my people are very spiritual; we are not against communing with them from time to time, especially with our ancestors. [12:14] spies8mary: What do you think of Cory? [12:15] Spies8Awohali: I like him so far. His actions have been overwhelmingly Pro-town throughout the game. He had a slight period where he was in the shadows and not as active, but he rebounded well. [12:16] Spies8Awohali: He seems to understand the nominating process well, also, switching his vote to make sure that the wrong people did not get nominated, even though it ultimately would have worked out, anyway. [12:16] spies8mary: So you like his suspects, his methods, or both? [12:17] spies8mary: Yes, that was a positive sign from him. [12:17] spies8mary: He chatted me up a few minutes before deadline to see who I was voting for. [12:17] Spies8Awohali: Mostly his suspects. He has not grilled me a great deal, so I only have that to consider how he speaks to people privately, but he has made it a point to speak with me and ask me about the game a decent bit. [12:18] Spies8Awohali: I would like to see more from him, but I do feel that he is doing well with what he's got. [12:18] spies8mary: When he couldn't reach me, he switched to make sure Isaac didn't fall off the list. [12:18] Spies8Awohali: And it is difficult to be against a philosoraptor. [12:19] spies8mary: Honestly, I think he's more of a philosofieldmouse. [12:19] Spies8Awohali: He would be displeased to hear that assessment, but it could be worse, I am sure. [12:19] spies8mary: He has followed the last two cases I've made. [12:19] spies8mary: He followed Claude on to Camilla. [12:19] spies8mary: And he doesn;t even have a favorite philosopher. [12:20] Spies8Awohali: That is a travesty, considering his raptor status. I am a fan of Locke, personally. [12:20] spies8mary: When I asked him, I think he listed Justin Bieber. [12:20] spies8mary: Definitely something to look into in future weeks. [12:20] Spies8Awohali: Did he ever ask you how you missed your vote at the Exile 3? I suspect he would be interested in that if he is following your lead. Come to think of it... Did I ever ask you that? [12:21] spies8mary: No. [12:21] Spies8Awohali: Bieber? I do not think that the philosoraptor community allows that. [12:21] spies8mary: And no. [12:21] Spies8Awohali: That must have slipped my mind with everything going on. Were you hit with an unexpected surprise? I realize that "unexpected surprise" is very redundant. [12:21] spies8mary: I was so busy chatting and reading cases and work got busy at the hospital and I thought I had voted but I never did. [12:22] spies8mary: Sam messaged me five minutes after the deadline and I was so disappointed. [12:22] Spies8Awohali: That is unfortunate, but I can understand why it would happen. It is a good policy, I have found, to pre-vote very early, in case something happens. [12:22] spies8mary: I'm lucky, actually, that it didn't matter. [12:23] spies8mary: Yes. [12:23] Spies8Awohali: Indeed, otherwise you might have been under some heat for it, apart from feeling terrible if the wrong person was nominated and killed, I'm sure. [12:24] spies8mary: I'm less worried about heat than I am about making the right choices. [12:24] Spies8Awohali: That is a good policy. I did not mean to switch the subject off of Cory, though, I apologize. [12:24] spies8mary: It's ok. [12:24] spies8mary: Do you know his current suspects? [12:25] Spies8Awohali: I can only assume that his top two are still Jenny and Isaac. [12:25] spies8mary: That's a pretty thin list. [12:25] Spies8Awohali: It is... And beyond that, I am unmable to think of more fof the top of my head that he has focused on lately. [12:26] spies8mary: His vote on Isaac was for "gut". [12:26] spies8mary: I asked him for evidence and he had none. [12:26] spies8mary: I will find the chat where I brought up Jenny to him. [12:27] Spies8Awohali: That is an odd reason this far into a game. [12:27] spies8mary: A week ago he suspected Chance when I said I did. [12:28] spies8mary: He also raised suspicion of Claude. [12:28] spies8mary: spies8mary: Have you learned anything about Jenny yet? [12:28] Spies8Awohali: I wonder if you were to give him a ridiculous suspicion of someone you see as a Citizen, if he would later tell me he suspected that person upon being asked. [12:29] spies8mary: spies8cory: It was relevant [12:29] spies8mary: spies8cory: I haven't actually checked hard facts, but if what she is saying is true, the claiming seemed like the right move spies8cory: She said neither Nita nor Allan were around an hour before exile and things were getting ugly [12:29] spies8mary: So he defends Jenny. [12:29] Spies8Awohali: Wow, not many people have been willing to do that. [12:29] spies8mary: It was a week ago. [12:30] Spies8Awohali: So, well after her admission that she screwed up with the vote count. [12:30] spies8mary: Yes. [12:30] spies8mary: And then I make a case. [12:31] spies8mary: And ever since then, Cory has been on her. [12:31] spies8mary: So I feel like he is taking other people's cases. [12:31] spies8mary: I thought he was brighter than that. [12:31] spies8mary: I think it was a good case but [12:31] Spies8Awohali: He seems to be. I would not have pegged him for such a follower. [12:31] spies8mary: Right. [12:32] Spies8Awohali: Would you be willing to participate in an experiment with him, concerning a false suspicion, and see if he buys right into it? [12:33] spies8mary: Hmm. [12:33] spies8mary: I'd rather make another good case and see if he follows it readily. [12:34] Spies8Awohali: That would be a more productive method, for certain. He can always use the excuse that it is simply a good case, though. [12:34] spies8mary: Eventually, following enough times is a sign of a problem. [12:34] spies8mary: Chance, Isaac, Jenny [12:34] Spies8Awohali: Agreed. He is getting close, already. [12:34] spies8mary: I think he followed on to Magalie. [12:34] spies8mary: And off again. [12:35] Spies8Awohali: I believe you are correct, there. He voted... Camilla, round one, perhaps following Claude. [12:37] spies8mary: Jasmine and I were discussing voting for Isaac Episode 2. [12:38] spies8mary: We found a contradiction in his suspects list. [12:38] spies8mary: Jasmine posted it. [12:38] spies8mary: And I think that's when Cory settled on his "gut" vote. [12:38] Spies8Awohali: I believe you are correct, there. [12:38] Spies8Awohali: And that gut has not really developed since then, that I have seen. [12:39] spies8mary: He goofs around when I try to question him about serious things. [12:39] spies8mary: I enjoy a casual chat now and then but I wonder. [12:39] Spies8Awohali: I had not considered that voting patterns are not always enough by themselves, I must begin to look at them in relation to others' patterns, even when they are patterns I approve of. [12:40] Spies8Awohali: Yes, it is best to mix chatting with serious discussion, rather than forgo serious discussion all together. [12:41] spies8mary: Do you know Owen at all? [12:41] Spies8Awohali: I do not. Literally, at all. Do you? [12:42] spies8mary: Yes. [12:42] spies8mary: We've spoken twice now. [12:43] Spies8Awohali: How has he seemed to you? [12:43] spies8mary: I base my opinion primarily upon reading his group chats. [12:43] spies8mary: He looked ok. [12:43] spies8mary: He was third on the Alexei case, which bothers me a little. [12:44] spies8mary: I saw the chat where his suspicions "formed". [12:44] spies8mary: Tina brought or posted or PMed a chat. [12:44] Spies8Awohali: I like that he stayed on the case even when it got close, but it would have been nice to see him on it earlier. [12:44] spies8mary: As she was explaining her suspicions [12:45] spies8mary: He was reading the chat [12:45] spies8mary: And within two minutes added two things he found suspicious about Alexei from it. [12:45] spies8mary: It's a tough call. [12:45] spies8mary: I'd say he looks a lot more Cit than Jenny. [12:45] spies8mary: Who ignored said evidence repeatedly. [12:46] Spies8Awohali: Even Alexei probably looks more Cit than Jenny..... But yes, I agree. My opinion on him, without having met him during the actual game, is better than it is for a 1/3 of the cast, though without talking to him, I am unable to know how accurate that is. [12:47] Spies8Awohali: Time has slipped away, it seems... I must go to the gym before I run out of time. Will you be on later tonight? [12:47] spies8mary: Yes. [12:47] spies8mary: Have fun. I'll go for a walk in the heat. [12:48] Spies8Awohali: I shall try my best. Do not let the heat give you claws. As useful as they are, they can be rather clumsy. [12:48] spies8mary: That's a joke. [12:48] spies8mary: I get it. [12:48] spies8mary: Lobsters. [12:48] spies8mary: Bye, Awohali. [12:48] Spies8Awohali: A bit of one; I am trying a new series of jokes called Variations on A Lobster [12:48] Spies8Awohali: .Farewell, Mary.
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Post by Mary on Jul 7, 2010 13:52:27 GMT -6
[10:54] spies8jasmine: Do you think Claude might be a spy? [10:54] spies8mary: I don't know. [10:54] spies8mary: I've thought no for a long time. [10:54] spies8jasmine: I'm starting to think different though. But I use to think he wasn't as well. [10:54] spies8mary: I asked him this morning if the Anonymizing thing was him. [10:54] spies8jasmine: It just seems like he's always trying to make something happen..like he has an agenda. [10:54] spies8mary: Because it seems to fit his role so well. [10:54] spies8jasmine: yea. hm [10:55] spies8mary: And because it effectively kept him off the exile list. [10:55] spies8mary: I could see him doing it as a selfish Citizen. [10:55] spies8mary: Or as a Spy, obviously. [10:55] spies8jasmine: yea [10:56] spies8mary: I've been talking with him about Jenny. [10:56] spies8jasmine: it worries me, mary. [10:56] spies8mary: What does? [10:56] spies8jasmine: That he was spy all along. [10:56] spies8jasmine: because i really trusted him. [10:56] spies8mary: You did? [10:56] spies8jasmine: And him wanting Chance out and such. [10:56] spies8jasmine: Yes, i really thought he was a citizen for a long time. [10:56] spies8jasmine: He does think Jenny is a spy--right? [10:57] spies8mary: Did anything else happen to change your mind or just this latest role/vote thing? [10:57] spies8mary: I don't sense that he's sure about Jenny. [10:57] spies8jasmine: Just this last bit, ever since we merged he seems to have jut been different for me [10:57] spies8jasmine: I dont trust him as much as I use to [10:57] spies8jasmine: when we were all democras. [10:58] spies8jasmine: i miss those days. [10:58] spies8mary: Unlike Chance, Claude's suspects have changed over time. [10:58] spies8mary: And in ways that kind of make sense to me. [10:58] spies8jasmine: That his suspects would chance? [10:58] spies8jasmine: change* [10:58] spies8mary: You do know his #1 and #2 suspect are the same as yours, right? [10:58] spies8jasmine: Isaac and Jenny? [10:58] spies8mary: Isaac and Chance. [10:58] spies8jasmine: well isaac/Chance/Jenny [10:59] spies8jasmine: ya they are all on my list atm. [10:59] spies8mary: I would think that would have you trusting him. [10:59] spies8jasmine: If he still thnks Chance is spy, his hasn't changed much. [10:59] spies8mary: Unless his reasons are bad. [10:59] spies8jasmine: It isn't his reasons, or who he suspects. its just the way with this vote and the role and all that [10:59] spies8jasmine: how his reasons for it [10:59] spies8jasmine: seemed to try and get people to think one way [10:59] spies8jasmine: idk, it just gives me very odd vibes [10:59] spies8jasmine: im starting to not trust him [11:00] spies8mary: If he's a Spy and his team used a role to protect him [11:01] spies8mary: It's made him look worse. It was a bad gamble. [11:01] spies8mary: The other possibility is that a Spy did it to make Citizen Claude look bad. [11:01] spies8jasmine: Possibly. What about Rondak? He seems to think Rondak is a spy now. [11:01] spies8mary: It's also possible it has nothing to do with Claude and more to do with Rondak. [11:01] spies8jasmine: It seemed like a fast thing, everyone turning on that man. [11:02] spies8jasmine: I didn't even expect him to get votes. [11:02] spies8jasmine: but then he was nearly up [11:02] spies8mary: Gertrude voted him, and I don't trust her one bit. [11:02] spies8jasmine: me either [11:02] spies8jasmine: she was also immune [11:02] spies8jasmine: whcih was odd [11:02] spies8jasmine: i didnt think she was getting lynched anyways? [11:03] spies8mary: I'd rather see Isaac or Chance exiled. [11:03] spies8mary: But I want to step up the heat on Gertrude. [11:03] spies8mary: What do you think of Lilith? [11:05] spies8jasmine: I trust her still, I think she is a citizen. [11:05] spies8jasmine: What about you? [11:05] spies8jasmine: She helped me not get lynched, last round [11:05] spies8mary: I know. [11:06] spies8jasmine: helped me swap to themba at the last moment. [11:06] spies8mary: Unless you're both Spies, I saw that as a good sign. [11:06] spies8jasmine: yea, and im not--at least. Unless she is a spy. Wanted Themba out more then me, because im easier tog et out..as a citizen? [11:06] spies8jasmine: thats something i was thinking [11:06] spies8mary: Why would a Spy risk looking bad by making you exile a Citizen? [11:07] spies8jasmine: Thats true [11:07] spies8jasmine: Not sure [11:08] spies8mary: People seem to be defending Stephanie. [11:08] spies8mary: Do you have a good read on her? [11:08] spies8mary: We only talked once and I thought it was fine. [11:08] spies8mary: Tina and I reviewed it later and Steph seems to copy a lot from Tina's cases. [11:09] spies8mary: But I still think Steph sounded ok for the most part. [11:09] spies8jasmine: I think she is a citizen, based on her always being very upfront. And Tina who was on her team for so long..really thinks Steph is a citizen. [11:09] spies8mary: Tina went back and forth on that. [11:09] spies8jasmine: If she thought Steph was a cit? [11:09] spies8jasmine: I thought she strongly thought she was one now [11:09] spies8mary: She moved her vote off Lawrence when Stephanie piled on top of it. [11:09] spies8mary: She said Steph's vote gave her the creeps. [11:10] spies8mary: But now she sounds like she trusts Steph. [11:10] spies8mary: It's a little odd. [11:10] spies8jasmine: Yes, it is. [11:23] spies8mary: What do you think of Broderick? [11:25] spies8jasmine: I don't like tht he always suscpects me [11:25] spies8jasmine: but i still dont get spy vibes [11:26] spies8jasmine: wat bout u [11:26] spies8mary: I don't agree with his suspicions list, except maybe Gertrude. [11:26] spies8mary: But his cases are at least thought out. [11:27] spies8mary: I don't think he's a likely spy. [11:27] spies8mary: I need to see who he's ignoring. [11:27] spies8mary: I don't see him saying much about the major suspects. [11:28] spies8jasmine: yea, he tends to suspect me and people who arent getting major attention [11:28] spies8jasmine: maybe to stay in the background? dunno. [11:29] spies8mary: It bothers me that he has voted you three times in a row. [11:29] spies8mary: Do you get the sense he really really thinks you're a spy? [11:32] spies8jasmine: Yea, but I dont think he has anything solid. I think I'm obviously new, and he's just pcking up anything to use agaisnt me [11:32] spies8mary: I got a strong Cit read off you when you helped me compare notes on Isaac's votes exile 2. [11:33] spies8mary: You seemed to be actively looking for the things Spies do. [11:33] spies8jasmine: Thanks! [11:34] spies8mary: Who do you think the 6 spies are? [11:34] spies8jasmine: Jenny, Isaac, Rondak, Chance, and then for the other two [11:35] spies8jasmine: I'm starting to think maybe Claude is. maybe Gertrude [11:35] spies8jasmine: I think it has to be tho [11:35] spies8jasmine: someone we arent thinking of tho as well [11:35] spies8jasmine: maybe Cinnamyn, or something nobody has suspected thus far [11:41] spies8mary: I have no read on Rondak. [11:41] spies8mary: I feel like he and Gertrude are both pretending to be worse players than they actually are. [11:41] spies8jasmine: I've never really spoken with Rondak. [11:41] spies8jasmine: :-\ [11:41] spies8jasmine: It stinks. [11:43] spies8mary: I don't like how Rondak lurked early in the game and popped up when spoken to. [11:44] spies8jasmine: When did he pop up? [11:45] spies8jasmine: On the new democratic side? [11:45] spies8jasmine: btw, i have silly bands, mary. [11:45] spies8mary: What are those? [11:45] spies8mary: I don't own anything silly. [11:45] spies8jasmine: They are like bracelets, but better. [11:46] spies8jasmine: its a cross between a rubber band [11:46] spies8jasmine: and a bracelet [11:46] spies8mary: I've never worn a bracelet. [11:46] spies8jasmine: Never? [11:47] spies8mary: Never. [11:47] spies8jasmine: Aw, I'd give you one of these. [11:47] spies8jasmine: If you wanted. [11:47] spies8mary: The hospital doesn't allow it. They're afraid people will hurt themselves. [11:47] spies8jasmine: I have a microphone. [11:47] spies8jasmine: Oh [11:47] spies8mary: I would like one. [11:47] spies8jasmine: You can have the microphone Mary. [11:47] spies8jasmine: :-) [11:47] spies8jasmine: it is gray [11:48] spies8mary: A bracelet with a microphone on it? [11:48] spies8jasmine: it matches, you [11:48] spies8jasmine: when you take it off [11:48] spies8jasmine: it forms into a microphone [11:48] spies8jasmine: www.youtube.com/watch?v=AczHhamCs_Y[11:52] spies8mary: Is this it? [11:52] spies8mary: ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/311Hk8geSYL.jpg[11:52] spies8jasmine: YES MARY [11:52] spies8jasmine: I have a guitar [11:52] spies8jasmine: a microphone [11:52] spies8jasmine: the rock on hand [11:52] spies8jasmine: and a castle [11:52] spies8jasmine: but you can have the microphone [11:53] spies8mary: Thanks. [11:53] spies8mary: I hope no other patients choke on it accidentally. [11:53] spies8jasmine: No problem. I love to share. It's better then buying them yourself, I got these from people too. [11:53] spies8jasmine: Let's hope not.
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