Conversation With Jenny:icon IM History with buddy spies8jenny
Sunday, July 25, 2010
spies8jasmine (3:54:54 PM): Hey Jenny!
spies8jenny (3:57:08 PM): Hi Jas!
spies8jenny (3:57:16 PM): How are you diong?
spies8jenny (3:57:18 PM):
spies8jasmine (3:58:05 PM): Hi jenny
spies8jasmine (3:58:06 PM): I'm pretty good
spies8jasmine (3:58:12 PM): I think re-reading what i missed and some of the past
spies8jasmine (3:58:16 PM): has really gotton me nito the game atm
spies8jasmine (3:58:25 PM): And I'm really suspcious of Broderick and Claude.
spies8jasmine (3:58:37 PM): I posted some Claude things.
spies8jasmine (3:58:49 PM): And maybe Broderick is because he's suspected people I see as a citizens? not sure.
spies8jasmine (3:59:05 PM): Like he just opened up a case on Cinnamyn, and I think it's complete BS. But maybe it's because I see Cinnamyn as pure cit. Not sure.
spies8jenny (4:05:04 PM): You ever see my reason for seeing Claude as a cit right now?
spies8jasmine (4:06:09 PM): No.
spies8jasmine (4:06:11 PM): Where is that posted?
spies8jenny (4:06:24 PM): I know I said it in a group chat, but I'm on a computer that hates CTRL+F
spies8jenny (4:06:28 PM): so I'm trying to find it manually
spies8jasmine (4:06:56 PM): Okay
spies8jasmine (4:06:56 PM): LOL
spies8jasmine (4:06:58 PM): Let me know tho
spies8jasmine (4:07:01 PM): or just re-sum it up
spies8jasmine (4:07:03 PM): Be interested, indeed
spies8jenny (4:07:54 PM): Found it.
spies8jenny (4:07:56 PM): [13:33] spies8jenny: I was actually talking about this role stuff with someone else earlier. I was looking at the last game since we had the same number of spies as then, nearly the same number of players (32 then 30 now) and a third party role in both. Made sense to compare the number of roles in each.
Last time there were 3 spy roles, and 6 cit roles along with a third party.
This time we've found out about 3 spy roles (Lexi, Isaac, Spy Messenger), a third party role, and then 6 other roles. (Doctor, Al, Savanny, Claude, Kitty, and Exile Blocker)
So far it seems to fit the bill there. Could be slightly different, but since I'd think 4 out of 7 spies having roles is pushing it anyways, for the time being I'm thinking Claude, Kitty, and mysterious exile blocker person are cits for now.
spies8jasmine (4:09:02 PM): Hm.
spies8jasmine (4:09:06 PM): That is intersting
spies8jasmine (4:09:25 PM): It coudl be, but I remember someone saying we shouldn't base our game
spies8jasmine (4:09:28 PM): on previous seasons
spies8jasmine (4:09:33 PM): do u not agree with that then? u think we should?
spies8jasmine (4:09:38 PM): i think it was chance that use to say it.
spies8jenny (4:09:45 PM): I agree to a point.
spies8jenny (4:10:24 PM): Should we be specifically be trying to find past players and compare their play from then to now? Not really.
But I still think it's a good idea to at least understand how the game setup tends to go.
spies8jenny (4:10:54 PM): For example, knowing how many roles Sammy likes to put in games, and knowing that he likes to screw with metagaming as much as possible.
spies8jenny (4:11:37 PM): Or learning from past mistakes (Hey the spies won the last two games because one of their members lurked the whole game, maybe we should look at the lurker this time around)
spies8jasmine (4:11:57 PM): I agree with that. But at the same time I'm getting odd vibes about Claude lately. :-P
spies8jasmine (4:12:02 PM): What are your thoughts on Broderick?
spies8jenny (4:12:12 PM): Ugh.
That's my thoughts on him.
spies8jenny (4:12:13 PM):
spies8jasmine (4:12:32 PM): Yes, the way he handles himself with quesitoning and such. has bugged me from the get-go, but it seems more extreme now
spies8jenny (4:12:32 PM): Seriously, one minute he'll do something that seems incredibly cit to me, and the next he'll do something incredibly spy.
spies8jenny (4:12:36 PM): And it'll just go back and forth.
spies8jasmine (4:12:50 PM): Wats your tkae on his claim of Cinnamyn being a spy?
spies8jenny (4:14:04 PM): Well I said before that I'm looking into her and Mary as possible spies, because I don't see the spies making their first spy senator someone that would have absolutely no influence at all in the group. Surely they could have played wifom over someone that had a better reputation. It makes more sense to me to do that if there was already a spy there, and they wanted to try to make getting a majority easier.
spies8jasmine (4:15:27 PM): I think Mary or Cinnamyn being a spy would be the biggest shock for me.
spies8jasmine (4:15:36 PM): I think I really see them as citizens, so its hard to seem them otherwise.
spies8jenny (4:19:33 PM): Well out of the 4 others in the senate at the time (owen cory mary spice), I would pick between those two.
spies8jenny (4:19:46 PM): Cory has obviously been eliminated since.
spies8jasmine (4:20:10 PM): Wait, why do you think one of them has to be a spy?
spies8jenny (4:20:34 PM): What I just said
spies8jenny (4:20:34 PM): Well I said before that I'm looking into her and Mary as possible spies, because I don't see the spies making their first spy senator someone that would have absolutely no influence at all in the group. Surely they could have played wifom over someone that had a better reputation. It makes more sense to me to do that if there was already a spy there, and they wanted to try to make getting a majority easier.
spies8jasmine (4:22:47 PM): What I don't get though, is what makes you think they put Cinnamyn/Mary there?
spies8jasmine (4:22:51 PM): I thought they earned there spots.
spies8jasmine (4:23:01 PM): Just kind of confused..
spies8jasmine (4:23:01 PM): lol
spies8jasmine (4:23:17 PM): And Jenny, Claude and now Broderick. These epople are so mad and angry about this game. So negative!!
spies8jenny (4:24:40 PM):
spies8jenny (4:26:26 PM): I'm not saying the spies specifically put anyone there. Spice won her's in a challenge, Owen picked Mary, maybe they got lucky, I don't know.
My point is, if they somehow or another already had one spy there, then putting Maggie up when they got to choose makes more sense to me then if they just put her up expecting her to really sway anything in the senate.
spies8jasmine (4:27:19 PM): I don't think they did. I think they put her up there because she was the obvious spy at the moment, and maybe it would make her less obvious.
spies8jasmine (4:27:28 PM): They prolly didnt need her to help more then we used her.
spies8jasmine (4:27:32 PM): She didnt' seem interested in the game
spies8jasmine (4:27:39 PM): I don't see how she'd have swapped and been different with the spies?
spies8jenny (4:28:02 PM): I'm not sure what you mean with that last sentance.
spies8jasmine (4:28:27 PM): Like
spies8jasmine (4:28:30 PM): the way she acted with us
spies8jasmine (4:28:33 PM): was uninterested
spies8jasmine (4:28:34 PM): not into the game
spies8jasmine (4:28:39 PM): so how would the spies benefit from her?
spies8jasmine (4:28:45 PM): I don't see her being interested in the game to help them out
spies8jasmine (4:28:50 PM): like i think she'd have been the same way with them
spies8jasmine (4:28:58 PM): so if she did out herself by the spies picking her to be in teh senate
spies8jasmine (4:29:00 PM): they wouldnt care anyways
spies8jasmine (4:29:04 PM): she prolly wasnt helping them any.
spies8jasmine (4:29:10 PM): but maybe she was diff for them
spies8jenny (4:29:23 PM): That's what I mean, why on earth pick her as their vote if they were going to go ahead and put a spy in? I'd think nearly anybody else in the game would have been able to play it off better.
spies8jenny (4:29:59 PM): And I forgot to type a couple words oops.
spies8jasmine (4:30:13 PM): I don't think they were looking for it to be someone they considered to be a safe person up there. I think whomever they picked, they would want it to be a spy. So maybe they picked the most obvious one to make it seem like she really wasnt a spy.
spies8jenny (4:30:24 PM): That's what I mean, why on earth did they pick her as their vote.
spies8jasmine (4:30:38 PM): Maybe they wanted to make her less likely to get exiled that way--we may put her as a citizen, because"why would the spies put one of their own in the senate, so obviously".
spies8jasmine (4:30:53 PM): I think they picked her because they thought it would help her. The girl was nearly exiled many times.
spies8jasmine (4:30:55 PM): Themba exile, etc.
spies8jasmine (4:31:02 PM): Anything to make her seem more citizen like would have helped them.
spies8jasmine (4:31:09 PM): And i think thats what they were trying to do.
spies8jenny (4:31:09 PM): Honestly I'm not sure that it really changed anything in the end as far as Maggie went.
spies8jasmine (4:31:17 PM): I don't think it did either.
spies8jasmine (4:31:26 PM): But ti doesn't mean they didnt try to help the girl out.
spies8jasmine (4:31:33 PM): She did survive a bit on the senate, yes?
spies8jenny (4:31:37 PM): No.
spies8jasmine (4:31:46 PM): She was out the exile after she was put on the senate?
spies8jenny (4:31:54 PM): She was exiled the first day she was on the group.
spies8jasmine (4:31:59 PM): oh wow.
spies8jasmine (4:32:08 PM): Prolly not what the spies were hoping for
spies8jasmine (4:32:42 PM): I need to get a senate seat, jenny.
spies8jasmine (4:32:44 PM): desperatly.
spies8jenny (4:32:47 PM): That's kind of what I'm saying, the only way she makes sense as their person to pick, is if they were going to try to have her bandwagon onto another spy already in the group.
spies8jenny (4:33:06 PM): Because she was way too volatile to be make sense for the spies to pick as their only vote in the group.
spies8jenny (4:33:15 PM): to make sense*
spies8jenny (4:33:18 PM): ignore that be.
spies8jasmine (4:33:37 PM): I don't necessarily agree. I think they might have just wanted her in there to maybe help herself not get exiled, or look more like a citizen cause they thought she was going to get exiled--which she was.
spies8jenny (4:34:15 PM): In any case, I'm not going to vote either Spice or Mary on that alone, but at least to me it's enough to make me watch them a bit more.
spies8jasmine (4:34:47 PM): I disagree, but I guess it is a good reason if you think they would put her in there for that reason.
spies8jasmine (4:35:06 PM): Who else are you suspecting at the moemnt?
spies8jasmine (4:35:13 PM): are you on the awohali train?
spies8jasmine (4:35:19 PM): I need to read up on that, it's one thing I haven't yet.
spies8jenny (4:35:47 PM): Hali I've been looking at yeah. Been trying to do a post to respond to Hali wanting to know why I think him for the last few hours. I remember why I prefer IM now.
spies8jenny (4:36:04 PM): It's a pain in the neck organizing stuff for a post.
spies8jenny (4:36:06 PM):
spies8jasmine (4:36:39 PM): Yes, I don't really like posts either.
spies8jasmine (4:36:43 PM): I'd also like people to get back into this
spies8jasmine (4:36:46 PM): Less negativity
spies8jasmine (4:36:47 PM): CLaude
spies8jasmine (4:36:49 PM): and Broderick
spies8jenny (4:36:54 PM): And Hali
spies8jasmine (4:36:56 PM): within like 5 min. have snapped on me.
spies8jasmine (4:37:01 PM): Hali is feeling that way too?
spies8jasmine (4:37:04 PM): it's just so fucking shitty.
spies8jasmine (4:37:11 PM): We are nearing the end of the game.
spies8jasmine (4:37:20 PM): If people aren't particapting. it doesn't mean you should get mad at them.
spies8jasmine (4:37:28 PM): Just look at what your given.
spies8jasmine (4:37:30 PM): :-\
spies8jasmine (4:37:33 PM): obv would be nice if they would tho.
spies8jenny (4:38:37 PM):
spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=burg&thread=1081&post=7081That post and the one after it.
spies8jenny (4:39:07 PM): Reply 24 and 25 in case the link puts you in the middle of the post for some reason.
spies8jenny (4:39:23 PM): That was a chat with myself, claude, hali, and ricky last round.
spies8jasmine (4:39:46 PM): Okay.
spies8jasmine (4:43:39 PM): Do you think them being negative
spies8jasmine (4:43:43 PM): is going to make them look more suspcious
spies8jasmine (4:43:45 PM): ?
spies8jasmine (4:43:52 PM): If so, its going to really hinder the game.
spies8jasmine (4:44:03 PM): But at the same time, why are they here..and still playing if they are just going to ruin it?
spies8jenny (4:47:46 PM): here, start at 23:35 in that post I told you about.
spies8jenny (4:48:04 PM): Skips ahead to where what I'm talking about actually starts.
spies8jasmine (4:48:11 PM): okay, i read most of reply #24.
spies8jenny (4:48:19 PM): That works.
spies8jenny (4:48:24 PM): What timestamp are you at?
spies8jasmine (4:48:37 PM): i jumped down a bit, i was at the start of 23.
spies8jenny (4:49:15 PM): What part are you looking at now, so I can sort of follow along.
spies8jasmine (4:49:28 PM): [23:58] spies8broderick: Jasmine has been gone frequently. When she is here, she does nothing
spies8jasmine (4:49:36 PM): Fucking asshole, I was on vacation.
spies8jasmine (4:50:30 PM): [00:01] Spies8Awohali: Jenny... Do you or don't you suspect Lawrence? It is a simple question that I grow tired of asking.
spies8jasmine (4:50:34 PM): He has become a bit ruder.
spies8jasmine (4:51:59 PM): [00:13] Spies8Awohali: You are dodging the issue entirely. The reason you suspect Kiara is that she has not been around. That, by its very nature, disincludes your interactions with her as being necessary because your suspiucion of her has nothing to do with anything she has done while around.
[00:14] spies8jenny: I don't even know what you just tried to say there.
spies8jasmine (4:52:02 PM): thank god i wasnt the only one
spies8jenny (4:52:02 PM): You're not even at the good part yet
spies8jasmine (4:52:03 PM): <3
spies8jasmine (4:53:19 PM): [00:17] Spies8Awohali: I agree, Claude, I am concerned with the logical inconsistency here.
[00:18] spies8claude: The only logical inconsistency is the one you seem to be trying to make up.
spies8jasmine (4:53:26 PM): hmm. some truth in that.
spies8jasmine (4:53:46 PM): [00:18] Spies8Awohali: Just because Kiara is not at her computer the very instant you IM her does mean that she is not trying. And ah, look, you are now providing a new reason that does not consist of her mere absence.
spies8jasmine (4:53:50 PM): Him defending kiara, seems so odd.
spies8jasmine (4:53:51 PM): :-\
spies8jasmine (4:54:33 PM): o nvm, it wasnt really defending her but saying its inconsistent.
spies8jasmine (4:54:35 PM): :-\ but still
spies8jasmine (4:54:41 PM): the guy is different then he use to be,.
spies8jasmine (4:58:11 PM): [00:53] Spies8Awohali: And all of you, as well. And do not take my questioning too hard, Jenny. I merely wish to ascertain whether or not you are a Spy.
spies8jasmine (4:58:15 PM): thats the awohali i knew. :-)
spies8jenny (5:00:51 PM): The fun part is in a chat log from this episode that Lucky posted where Hali says that he hasn't ridiculed anyone.
spies8jenny (5:00:59 PM): ...
Yeah. Um.
spies8jasmine (5:01:31 PM): :-P
spies8jasmine (5:01:35 PM): He ridiculed you.
spies8jasmine (5:01:35 PM): LOL
spies8jasmine (5:01:50 PM): I'm starting to like you Jenny. I think maybe me thinking you were a spy before was rash.
spies8jasmine (5:02:16 PM): i think the vacation has made me see everything in a new light
spies8jasmine (5:02:17 PM): in a way
spies8jenny (5:02:42 PM): Always fun trying to stay civil with this game sometimes.
And that makes sense. Short break from the game, make yourself forget specifics, and force yourself to look back again.
spies8jasmine (5:03:17 PM): yep, it does help a lot more then i thought it would.
spies8jenny (5:09:17 PM): Ten nominees though, Not a clue what's going to happen at this point.
spies8jenny (5:09:43 PM): There aren't even 10 senators.
spies8jasmine (5:09:51 PM): Yea. :-\
spies8jasmine (5:10:13 PM): a few votes could be majority
spies8jasmine (5:10:16 PM): which might be a bad thing.
spies8jenny (5:10:46 PM): Even more depressing is that, if we didn't have all those penalties?
spies8jenny (5:10:52 PM): We'd still have had a 6 way tie with 1 vote each.
spies8jasmine (5:11:11 PM): LOL.
spies8jasmine (5:11:13 PM): Yea.
spies8jasmine (5:11:14 PM): Thats so horrible
spies8jasmine (5:11:19 PM): We need to become mroe together
spies8jasmine (5:11:20 PM): as a unit
spies8jenny (5:37:50 PM): Just saw one of your posts.
spies8jenny (5:37:59 PM): I think Claude is getting sick of all the spies antics.
spies8jenny (5:38:07 PM): and I mean spies as in the game, not as in the team
spies8jenny (6:14:09 PM): So where are you at with people right now?
spies8jenny (8:45:16 PM): Hi Jas!
spies8jasmine (8:45:41 PM): Sorry about earlier
spies8jasmine (8:45:43 PM): I fell asleep
spies8jenny (8:45:46 PM):
spies8jasmine (8:45:52 PM): then my laptop battery died
spies8jasmine (8:45:53 PM): spies8jenny 6:14 pm
(6:14:09 PM): So where are you at with people right now?
(8:45:16 PM): Hi Jas!
spies8jasmine 8:45 pm
(8:45:41 PM): Sorry about earlier
(8:45:43 PM): I fell asleep
spies8jenny 8:45 pm
(8:45:46 PM): :-P
spies8jasmine (8:45:58 PM): that is where we left off.
spies8jasmine (8:46:07 PM): I was planning on writing a bit about each person later
spies8jasmine (8:46:15 PM): and try to realy think if they r spies or cits
spies8jasmine (8:46:18 PM): but for my confessional
spies8jasmine (8:46:39 PM): at the moment though, im suspect of broderick/claude, and the awohali stuff is my next step--to look into his case
spies8jasmine (8:46:45 PM): i think it might change my view on brod/claude
spies8jasmine (8:46:55 PM): since it may be because of not wanting to play the game--as to why im suspecting them atm
spies8jenny (11:52:43 PM): So far behind in the chat right now.
spies8jenny (11:52:52 PM): Hopefully I can get caught up before everyone leaves. Again.
spies8jasmine (11:55:23 PM): aw i hope so
spies8jasmine (11:55:27 PM): do u think stephanie is a citizen?
spies8jasmine (11:55:29 PM): she is suspecting u
spies8jasmine (11:55:42 PM): and im starting to think maybe she isnt. im thinking that maybe her defending zed this entire time
spies8jasmine (11:55:46 PM): was a stragey, as a spy
spies8jasmine (11:55:55 PM): team up with a cit
spies8jasmine (11:56:00 PM): and always try and protect them, defend them
spies8jasmine (11:56:08 PM): which lilith pointed out
spies8jasmine (11:56:11 PM): tons of times to me
spies8jasmine (11:56:13 PM): when we went over there
spies8jenny (11:56:57 PM): I had been on her early on, backed off a bit after that vote fog thing came up, and it looked like Stephi was pushed into the nominations. Right now I'm neutral with her, leaning spy if I had to pick.
spies8jasmine (11:58:10 PM): ya im starting to think she might be a spy
spies8jasmine (11:58:10 PM): ALEXEI (6): Nita, Gabriel, Hambone, Owen, Dane, Rondak
ZEDEKIAH (4): Savannah, Themba, Jenny, Tina
DANE (2): Stephanie, Alexei
spies8jasmine (11:58:14 PM): even going back tot his
spies8jasmine (11:58:17 PM): her voting with alexi
spies8jasmine (11:58:20 PM): and not for alexei
spies8jenny (11:58:56 PM): That's what made me start looking at her in the first place.
spies8jenny (11:59:13 PM): I was looking at the tally after that first round and noticed her vote there, figured I should look into that more.
spies8jasmine (11:59:47 PM): that and the fact that she tried to team up with a citizen
spies8jasmine (11:59:50 PM): makes me really question her
Monday, July 26, 2010
spies8jasmine (12:00:00 AM): why she would do it and such. and i think if i was a spy
spies8jasmine (12:00:03 AM): that woul dbe a smart thing to do
spies8jenny (12:01:13 AM): Just got to when Hali came in the room.
spies8jasmine (12:04:15 AM): Okay
spies8jasmine (12:19:31 AM): how u doing gurl? almsot caught up
spies8jasmine (12:19:31 AM): ?
spies8jenny (12:19:56 AM): I'm at when I was apparently brought up and Hali was looking for me.
spies8jenny (12:20:04 AM): 22:42] spies8claude: You flat-out bullied Jenny, Awohali.
[22:42] spies8jasmine: which is wat she did
[22:42] Spies8Awohali: I shall pull up a thesaurus, then, and see if forceful is listed under rude.
[22:42] spies8jasmine: you said it was forceful
spies8jasmine (12:20:29 AM): Gotcha
spies8jenny (12:26:14 AM): [22:53] spies8jasmine: the fact that nita claimed to her, and i think nita would need a really good reason to do that
[22:53] spies8jasmine: a sure reason that jenny would be a spy.
Just got to this. I got the impression it was more a "I don't want to die, I have some suspicion on you, and I think you can actually keep a secret, please don't kill me." then a "You're a spy and I want you to help me out."
Especially since she never asked me to help her with a task at all while she was alive.
spies8jasmine (12:28:23 AM): Gotcha.
spies8jasmine (12:28:29 AM): I still think its suspcious that you got the claim
spies8jasmine (12:28:33 AM): but ive been laying off it
spies8jasmine (12:28:37 AM): since other things spark my interest more
spies8jenny (12:29:18 AM): I found it funny myself. I might not like why she decided to claim to me, but information is always helpful.
spies8jasmine (12:31:37 AM): Yes it is, and if you are a citizen im happy u shared it with us and risked it looking scummy as it does.
spies8jenny (12:32:39 AM): You're welcome.
Like I said back then, she was dead so no real point in hiding information about it at that point. Especially if someone else knew about it and could point out anything odd.
spies8jasmine (12:33:24 AM): yes, thats true
spies8jenny (12:33:46 AM): Before that though, third party or not she was still helping cits as far as I could tell, and in the end she still wasn't a spy. No need to cause the town to go into panic mode and start singing about savages and needing to sound the drums of war.
spies8jenny (12:35:50 AM): And in the end, she got imprisoned anyways. Best way that could have ended for us really, let the spies take them out, and we never had to worry about her other tasks or her suddenly leaving mid game.
spies8jasmine (12:37:07 AM): I agree, yes. I think it was best then wasting an exile on it.
spies8jenny (12:38:48 AM): Which you have to admit, would probably have been the first thing to happen if it came out while she was alive.
spies8jenny (12:39:22 AM): OH NO A THIRD PARTY ROLE, LET US ALL SCREAM LIKE LITTLE GIRLS, DIVERT ALL LOGICAL THOUGHT TO CANADA, AND EXILE THEM UNANIMOUSLY!
spies8jasmine (12:39:39 AM): I LOVE SCREAMING LIKE A LITTLE GIRL
spies8jasmine (12:39:47 AM): helps me practice my new voice.
spies8jenny (12:40:03 AM): I LIKE THE PART WHERE LOGICAL THOUGHT GETS STUCK IN CUSTOMS ON THE WAY TO CANADA.
spies8jenny (12:40:11 AM): THAT WAY NOBODY HAS IT!
spies8jasmine (12:40:53 AM): lmaoo
spies8jasmine (12:40:57 AM): jenny, your so creative
spies8jasmine (12:40:57 AM): =)
spies8jenny (12:43:01 AM):
