Episode #7 Conversations

[Lawrence]

spies8

spies8lawrence (12:23:04 PM): Are any of you present?
spies8mary (12:24:56 PM): Hi.
spies8lawrence (12:25:14 PM): Good! There is life in this room.
spies8lawrence (12:25:19 PM): I thought it was dead.
spies8mary (12:25:37 PM): One moment.
spies8mary (12:26:57 PM): Why did you replace in, Lawrence?
spies8lawrence (12:27:13 PM): This is the last Spies game
spies8lawrence (12:27:20 PM): I did not want to miss out on the opportunity
spies8lawrence (12:27:44 PM): I have to say, I am not regretting it so far
spies8mary (12:27:49 PM): Why?
spies8lawrence (12:27:53 PM): Last night it seemed some of these people were quite the characters
spies8mary (12:28:32 PM): Have you been following the game for long?
spies8lawrence (12:28:42 PM): Not in detail
spies8lawrence (12:28:56 PM): But yes, I've been keeping track of who has been eliminated
spies8lawrence (12:29:09 PM): And the basics of twists and things of that nature
spies8mary (12:29:21 PM): Were you hoping to replace in as a Citizen or a Spy?
spies8lawrence (12:29:41 PM): Honestly, I did not care what I received
spies8lawrence (12:29:59 PM): I was focused on getting into the cast . . . my alignment was not much of a thought
spies8mary (12:30:48 PM): Who have you spoken with in private so far?
spies8lawrence (12:31:11 PM): Brief (very brief) conversations with everyone who attended the Exile last night
spies8claude (12:31:11 PM): Morning.
spies8mary (12:31:20 PM): Hi Claude.
spies8lawrence (12:31:28 PM): Hello Claude, how are you today?
spies8claude (12:31:40 PM): Just waking up.
spies8mary (12:32:56 PM): Have you caught up on the forums yet?
spies8lawrence (12:33:02 PM): Not yet
spies8lawrence (12:33:17 PM): I just began perusing them in full this morning
spies8lawrence (12:33:29 PM): I used last night primarily to at least get acquainted with you folks
spies8mary (12:33:34 PM): What have you perused so far?
spies8lawrence (12:33:46 PM): Last page
spies8lawrence (12:33:50 PM): Of threads
spies8lawrence (12:34:12 PM): Currently reading the case on Alexei posted by Nita
spies8lawrence (12:34:21 PM): I know they are both dead, but Alexei was in fact a Spy
spies8mary (12:34:39 PM): That's ambitious of you.
spies8lawrence (12:34:47 PM): I believe a good place to start figuring out who is who is by how different individuals reacted to cases on dead criminals.
spies8mary (12:35:04 PM): Both of those people are dead, Lawrence.
spies8lawrence (12:35:21 PM): Yes, I realize, but there may be replies later in the thread
spies8lawrence (12:37:06 PM): Of course, I do believe talking to people will be more useful than the Burg . . . I have found that when constant communication is involved, the message board only provides the outline of the story.
spies8mary (12:37:07 PM): I'll leave you to your reading for now.
spies8lawrence (12:37:12 PM): Alright
spies8mary (12:50:15 PM): Hi.
spies8broderick (12:50:24 PM): Whats goin on?
spies8broderick (12:50:24 PM): Hi
spies8lawrence (12:50:29 PM): Hello Broderick
spies8broderick (12:50:54 PM): Hi Lawrence
spies8mary (12:50:58 PM): I am on the phone, just a moment.
spies8lawrence (12:51:18 PM): How goes it this morning, Broderick?
spies8broderick (12:52:42 PM): Morning was great, lunch here in afew
spies8broderick (12:52:44 PM): Yours?
spies8lawrence (12:52:53 PM): Relaxing
spies8lawrence (12:53:04 PM): While it is depressing that I do not have a gig
spies8lawrence (12:53:11 PM): It gives me time to read up on the Burg
spies8broderick (12:53:15 PM): How is the catching going?
spies8broderick (12:53:19 PM): *catching up
spies8broderick (12:53:21 PM): lol
spies8lawrence (12:53:28 PM): With one arm, catching is difficult
spies8lawrence (12:53:43 PM): Catching up on the other hand, there is not as much to read up on as I previously thought
spies8lawrence (12:53:55 PM): But I am trying not to miss anything, or let myself get overwhelmed.
spies8broderick (12:54:43 PM): Where do you keep the other hand?
spies8broderick (12:54:58 PM): Take breaks and notes as you go
spies8broderick (12:54:59 PM): lol
spies8lawrence (12:55:26 PM): A smart strategy
spies8lawrence (12:56:42 PM): Although I can tell you I am annoyed a bit by Allan's decision last night
spies8lawrence (12:57:04 PM): As someone who was forced to wait to play as a replacement, voluntarily leaving the game is quite disrespectful
spies8broderick (12:57:17 PM): I agree
spies8broderick (12:58:14 PM): One of the reasons why I extremely dislike the lurkers and inactives. Like a lot of people want to play this game, and tojust always beaway on vacation or not participating is pretty disrespectful to both the host and other players
spies8broderick (12:58:52 PM): Probably my hulkish rage/frustration moments lol
spies8lawrence (12:58:56 PM): I understand vacations as long as one plays while they are here, but I agree with you on everything else.
spies8lawrence (12:59:06 PM): Like, for instance, I dislike Old Lawrence.
spies8broderick (12:59:52 PM): He was like always busy. His strategy was alright. He hunted forinformation - but it didnt seem to be an equal balance between current and past stuff
spies8broderick (1:01:47 PM): Why do you dislike him?
spies8lawrence (1:02:01 PM): He inactived out
spies8lawrence (1:02:19 PM): Not only that, but when he was here, he did not leave me much in the way of confessionals
spies8broderick (1:02:53 PM): That stinks
spies8lawrence (1:02:54 PM): I was hoping to have some information in there about suspicions to be able to come into the game with names to look out for
spies8lawrence (1:03:04 PM): But alas, I guess I will have to form some of my own
spies8lawrence (1:03:07 PM): Not that it is a bad thing
spies8broderick (1:03:26 PM): I think hehas a couple of posts that he made
spies8broderick (1:03:43 PM): Not sure how relavent they are now
spies8lawrence (1:03:52 PM): There are a few confessionals, but they are mainly "sorry for not being so active, will try harder."
spies8lawrence (1:03:54 PM): Things of that nature
spies8broderick (1:03:59 PM): Oh
spies8mary (1:05:11 PM): Broderick, did you ever get a followup from old Lawrence on his gut Spy read of you?
spies8broderick (1:05:29 PM): No
spies8mary (1:05:41 PM): Did you ask for one?
spies8broderick (1:06:11 PM): I would have to check. I think I recall asking him if he had any questions for me.
spies8mary (1:06:59 PM): "Well, I've got a gut spy read on Brody, but nothing firm to back it up. Isaac I've promised to do aan investigation on, which'll take me a awhile, so I probably won't start unitl after imp. Jasmine is probably most suspicious of them, due to her ignoring presented evidence, but nothing really damning. Lilith I've got nothing."
spies8lawrence (1:08:30 PM): I will hopefully return shortly
spies8lawrence (1:08:32 PM): Phone call
spies8broderick (1:09:15 PM): spies8lawrence (17:46:35): And I've still got that gut read on you that I can't seem to back up.
spies8lawrence (17:47:35): But. I can understand the feeling. I feel like I've been playing catch up the whole game so far.

spies8mary (1:10:00 PM): Broderick, who do you want exiled next?
spies8broderick (1:10:21 PM): A spy obviously
spies8mary (1:10:31 PM): Don't make me repeat myself.
spies8mary (1:10:36 PM): Although I hear you like that.
spies8broderick (1:10:40 PM): If I'm still here, I will probably votefor cinnamyn or Gertrude
spies8mary (1:10:52 PM): Why Cinnamyn?
spies8broderick (1:11:21 PM): Because she is largely adisappointment. Which makes me think onesecphone
spies8mary (1:11:26 PM): Ok.
spies8broderick (1:11:44 PM): K. wrongn umber lol
spies8broderick (1:12:34 PM): The first two episodes of the game, she seemed to be on top of things. She wasn't the most publiclyactive - but she did make a few posts with things directed at multiple people. She also seemed to know her mafia strategies and ideals pretty well.
spies8broderick (1:13:14 PM): Lately, it seems things have flipped. She still isn't publicly active, but she rarely posts anything, and Irarely see herinchats
spies8mary (1:14:01 PM): What do you think of her suspicions and reasons?
spies8broderick (1:14:05 PM): WhenI was talking with her last episode about her suspicions she named three people and gave reasons. Most ofthe reeasons were things they had done maybe two episodes ago, or the last episode. Which isn't bad - but it didn't seem like shewas currently trying to talk to her suspects
spies8broderick (1:14:53 PM): She had no idea that Kiara switched off Allan because of Tina, until I told her. Since Kiara was her suspect, and she had conversedwith Kiara - she should of eventually known that
spies8broderick (1:15:23 PM): She was making comments about Awohali, and I asked her why she didn't ask him. She said she was in multipleother convo's and she had a headache.
spies8lawrence (1:15:39 PM): How sublime!
spies8broderick (1:15:40 PM): So I told her she was suspicious for talking to maybe 1/3 of her suspects.
spies8lawrence (1:15:59 PM): It seems the local children's theater has had a last minute drop out of their previously scheduled act
spies8lawrence (1:16:03 PM): And they have asked me to perform!
spies8broderick (1:16:10 PM): She said well I talked to Zed and I talked to you.
spies8lawrence (1:16:24 PM): Unfortunately, I won't be around tonight until later than normal
spies8lawrence (1:16:28 PM): But at least I can eat!
spies8broderick (1:16:29 PM): Which I found suspicious that she added me to her suspect list after that
spies8broderick (1:16:34 PM): Yay Lawrence
spies8broderick (1:17:19 PM): Then we got in an argument the following day, she couldn't seemy sideh ow I found it suspect that when asked who her suspects were she names 3 people, then later adds afourth after that person (me) said she was suspicious for aspecific reason
spies8broderick (1:17:20 PM): lol
spies8broderick (1:17:37 PM): I gotta go in like two minutes if you have any other Q's
spies8broderick (1:17:43 PM): Hi Chance
spies8mary (1:17:48 PM): What day was that, Broderick?
spies8chance (1:17:52 PM): hi brod.
spies8chance (1:17:59 PM): i'm playing mass effect 2.
spies8broderick (1:18:05 PM): The day of our argument was when I blocked her, two days ago?
spies8mary (1:18:06 PM): I talked to her last night and her top three were Zed, Kiara, Jenny I think.
spies8broderick (1:18:30 PM): So three days ago was when she suspected Zed, Kiara, Awohali - then laterme as herfourth
spies8mary (1:18:40 PM): She listed your reason there as one of her main reasons for voting Kiara.
spies8mary (1:18:47 PM): I think.
spies8broderick (1:18:55 PM): Though she told me in our argument that she had told Gertrude she suspected me
spies8mary (1:19:02 PM): Ok.
spies8lawrence (1:19:04 PM): Hello Chance
spies8broderick (1:19:05 PM): Funny howAwohali and Iboth dropped from that list lol
spies8lawrence (1:19:17 PM): (Sorry for the silence, I was reading Broderick's statements above.)
spies8mary (1:19:33 PM): I'll ask Awohali if she asked him any questions.
spies8broderick (1:19:39 PM): Sorry. This keyboard is messed up. It gets dirty from work
spies8broderick (1:19:43 PM): lol
spies8mary (1:19:43 PM): Gross.
spies8broderick (1:19:53 PM): It is ina kitchen lol
spies8mary (1:20:00 PM): Our keyboards are locked to the desk under little cages you put your hands through.
spies8broderick (1:20:03 PM): So grease is inthe air and all of that kind of stuff
spies8mary (1:20:11 PM): So no one can pick them up and smash you with them.
spies8broderick (1:20:15 PM): lol
spies8broderick (1:20:21 PM): K i gotta run. cya later
spies8mary (1:20:26 PM): Personally I think the mmice are more dangerous.
spies8mary (1:20:28 PM): Bye.
spies8mary (2:14:00 PM): Hi.
spies8lawrence (2:14:14 PM): Hello Cinnamyn
spies8cinnamyn (2:14:19 PM): whassup yall
spies8lawrence (2:14:42 PM): Preparing for my show tonight while catching up on the Burg
spies8lawrence (2:14:58 PM): I wish the audience weren't children . . . they always stare at my armless side
spies8mary (2:16:58 PM): I'm dealing with a few screamers today.
spies8mary (2:17:06 PM): Nothing I can't handle.
spies8lawrence (2:17:22 PM): Do you work with children Mary?
spies8mary (2:17:25 PM): I also have an appointment with Claude soon for another session.
spies8mary (2:17:59 PM): No, I don't like working with children.
spies8lawrence (2:18:15 PM): Then what do you mean by "screamers?"
spies8mary (2:18:22 PM): Not since my brother Peter died way back when I was 9.
spies8lawrence (2:18:35 PM): I am sorry for your loss
spies8mary (2:18:40 PM): They've kept me away from kids since then.
spies8cinnamyn (2:22:22 PM): doez n e 1 in here have da chat where kiara claimed so i can read it.?
spies8lawrence (2:22:39 PM): I do not, unfortunately
spies8mary (2:22:47 PM): This is the exile chat.
spies8chance (2:23:04 PM): i'm looking for it.
spies8mary (2:23:22 PM): spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=exile&action=display&thread=1213
spies8mary (2:23:36 PM): I'm not sure how much it contains.
spies8mary (2:25:18 PM): spies8cory (12:20:58 AM): Alright, discussion time
spies8cory (12:21:11 AM): 20 minutes before exile Kiara claimed a role to me
spies8chance (2:25:25 PM): i posted it.
spies8mary (2:25:27 PM): I think it starts there.
spies8kiara (2:30:03 PM): hiya
spies8mary (2:30:11 PM): Hi.
spies8lawrence (2:30:15 PM): Hello my dear
spies8chance (2:30:47 PM): 'sup kiara.
spies8kiara (2:30:52 PM): hows everyone today?
spies8mary (2:31:02 PM): Ok.
spies8lawrence (2:31:17 PM): Enjoying the reading of the Burg
spies8lawrence (2:31:28 PM): It is quite an interesting experience, joining you all halfway through
spies8kiara (2:31:44 PM): having come in 1.5 episodes in, i dont envy you
spies8lawrence (2:31:55 PM): I recently saw that
spies8kiara (2:33:01 PM): wow, i hadnt realized we had lost so many people until i saw the new photo on the forum
spies8cinnamyn (2:34:19 PM): kiara u learn not onlee da name of da role but how it works.? frum ded ppl
spies8cinnamyn (2:34:22 PM): dat seemz lyke a lot
spies8kiara (2:36:48 PM): yup, like not the entire thing sam sends them. like 1-2 sentacnes about it
spies8cinnamyn (2:37:22 PM): y did u pick da ppl u did 2 c if dey had a role.?
spies8kiara (2:39:05 PM): round 3 i picked savannah to confirm if she had a role, and alexei because i thought it would be helpful to know if we were killing spy roles. gabriel because he was imprisoned and couldnt claim. isaac for the same as alexei. lilth for the same as gabe, and magalie for the same as the other spies
spies8lawrence (2:39:08 PM): Welcome Cory
spies8cinnamyn (2:41:31 PM): ok well 4 me dey aint no reazin 2 c dat dis automatically makez u a cit
spies8cinnamyn (2:41:39 PM): worthy of a vote switch off of u las' exile, eya
spies8cinnamyn (2:41:41 PM): *yea
spies8kiara (2:42:23 PM): fair enough
spies8cinnamyn (2:43:08 PM): cuz really, u cud b a spy makin' dis shit up n' uzin rolez dat da spiez still have, but sayin' dey dead.
spies8cory (2:43:23 PM): Well to explain my change
spies8cory (2:43:31 PM): She came to me like 20 minutes before exile votes were due
spies8kiara (2:43:33 PM): unfortunately i cant argue with that
spies8kiara (2:43:39 PM): it was like 30!
spies8cory (2:44:22 PM): 30
spies8cory (2:44:25 PM): You're right
spies8cory (2:44:41 PM): I think he's probably telling the truth though
spies8chance (2:44:45 PM): *she
spies8cory (2:44:51 PM): That, too
spies8cinnamyn (2:44:52 PM): y.?
spies8cory (2:45:13 PM): Well for one I do think she has this role, whether Spy or Cit
spies8cory (2:45:28 PM): But as a spy, either way, she is making up some of the role choices. I doubt she would check a dead spy partner
spies8cory (2:45:36 PM): But recall that I accused her of having inside info on Isaac
spies8cory (2:45:54 PM): I asked her if this role is why that happened and immediately she said no, that she used the role on Isaac after
spies8cory (2:46:11 PM): That means she had the timing down
spies8cinnamyn (2:46:56 PM): but devilz advocate, how hard wud it b 2 make up dis role dat we cant prove
spies8cory (2:47:32 PM): Lilith got imprisoned, right?
spies8cory (2:47:40 PM): And everyone thinks it is because the Spies thought she was the doctor
spies8cory (2:47:56 PM): Kiara is claiming Lilith had no role
spies8cory (2:48:00 PM): Risky, if the Spies thought she did
spies8cory (2:48:15 PM): I think the role is legit. The alignment of the role is another matter
spies8lawrence (2:48:34 PM): If I recall correctly, wasn't a similar role used in a previous Spies game?
spies8cinnamyn (2:48:45 PM): i cant argue wit' who she chose, i wudda picked da same ppl
spies8kiara (2:49:19 PM): lawrence, yes, but the player was expelled so it never got a chance to get used
spies8lawrence (2:49:50 PM): Sam does like to reuse roles, I believe.
spies8lawrence (2:50:02 PM): But he also likes to mess with the players with them
spies8lawrence (2:50:14 PM): Wasn't the Protector used with both alignments?
spies8chance (2:50:17 PM): i.e. dick tracy.
spies8lawrence (2:50:25 PM): Or something like that
spies8cory (2:50:26 PM): So was gift giver
spies8lawrence (2:51:15 PM): Because Sam is known as a trickster, sorry if I'm treading on toes here, but wouldn't it be a more lucrative venture to discuss Kiara's play than Kiara's role?
spies8cory (2:51:40 PM): I think it's good to consider her role actions as part of her play
spies8cory (2:52:00 PM): I'm fairly certain the role exists
spies8cinnamyn (2:52:08 PM): role ackshinz we cant prove**
spies8cory (2:52:18 PM): But that in itself does little to change my opinion of her
spies8mary (2:53:28 PM): That's not exactly correct, is it?
spies8lawrence (2:53:36 PM): I'm not completely sold on if the role exists or not yet (still catching up in the Burg), but I believe Kiara's alignment leads to the role, not vice versa
spies8lawrence (2:53:58 PM): Welcome my dear Gertrude
spies8claude (2:54:07 PM): I think that there are too many pieces of the role for her to have made it up.
spies8kiara (2:54:07 PM): hey gerty
spies8gertrude (2:54:09 PM): Hey there, everyone.
spies8kiara (2:54:35 PM): yes, claude, we all know you dont think im that clever
spies8cinnamyn (2:54:39 PM): lyke wut claude.? sum1 had da exact same role last seazin, wudnt b hard 2 copy it
spies8claude (2:54:41 PM): It's not that
spies8claude (2:54:58 PM): It's like.
spies8claude (2:55:06 PM): If you're a Spy and just know the roles of your buddies.
spies8lawrence (2:55:07 PM): Although, it is a very risky plan to fake a claim in Spies
spies8lawrence (2:55:14 PM): Ask someone such as Beatrix or Iris
spies8claude (2:55:39 PM): I don't see the thought process behind claiming to have extra results, and having to explain them. + the part where you said that you could guess 'neither'
spies8cinnamyn (2:55:40 PM): but dey were gunna get exiled b4, az kiara wuz lykely 2 do
spies8cinnamyn (2:55:47 PM): it jus' prolonged dey stay
spies8mary (2:56:09 PM): The correct question is "What has Kiara told us that a Spy with that role wouldn't or couldn't tell us?"
spies8chance (2:57:28 PM): the fact that magalie didn't have a role, i think.
spies8cinnamyn (2:58:14 PM): a spy wud say magalie did have a role.?
spies8cory (2:58:28 PM): Again, Lilith
spies8cory (2:58:48 PM): Seems like an odd anomaly
spies8cinnamyn (2:59:21 PM): i dont quite understand y da spiez wud b so hesitant 2 say lilith wuznt da doc.?
spies8cinnamyn (2:59:35 PM): or better yet, she wuz da doc, n' sum1 still alive (a spy) iz claimin' doc
spies8cory (2:59:39 PM): I would
spies8cory (2:59:46 PM): If she was in fact the doctor, there's a huge risk that she told someone
spies8cory (2:59:55 PM): Which would immediately seal Kiara's fate
spies8lawrence (3:00:16 PM): If she was not the Doctor, odds are by this time the real Doctor has told someone they trust
spies8lawrence (3:00:39 PM): Wouldn't they be able to secretly gather votes and get Kiara exiled, without needing to publicly claim?
spies8lawrence (3:00:54 PM): In a game where information is private, a trick like that seems simple to pull off
spies8lawrence (3:01:28 PM): It seems to me that either way, it would be risky to lie about any results
spies8cinnamyn (3:02:00 PM): i c ur point cory
spies8cory (3:03:20 PM): And they clearly thought she was at one point
spies8cory (3:03:30 PM): Can't fathom why else she'd get imprisoned. Lol.
spies8cinnamyn (3:04:56 PM): a spy wud still no she aint da doc, dey wud have uzed da role on her
spies8cinnamyn (3:05:23 PM): i dont c y sayin' dat she wuznt da doc, publicly now, iz a big deal
spies8cinnamyn (3:05:32 PM): or 1 dat a spy wudnt do
spies8cory (3:05:43 PM): Well, that's my point though
spies8cory (3:06:01 PM): The role likely exists due to Lilith not coming up doc
spies8cory (3:06:21 PM): Alignment if a different issue
spies8lawrence (3:07:20 PM): In other words . . . right back where we started before she claimed the role?
spies8cory (3:07:39 PM): Nope
spies8cory (3:07:56 PM): If you feel that argument is enough to believe the role exists, then you can take role actions into consideration
spies8lawrence (3:08:53 PM): I'm sorry, I'm afraid I don't know what you are saying
spies8cory (3:09:50 PM): Cinnamyn was saying we couldn't even know if she was lying about the role so pretty much had to disregard her claimed role actions
spies8lawrence (3:10:12 PM): Oh I see
spies8lawrence (3:10:33 PM): Sorry for my ineptitude at following along . . . they say the mind is the first thing to go with age
spies8cinnamyn (3:13:02 PM): gertie did u vote zedekiah 4 a reazin other den bein' lurkery.?
spies8gertrude (3:14:38 PM): Hi. Yes. I voted for Zedekiah not because he was lurky. I voted for him because I didn't like that he only showed up when he was suspected, and I trusted Chance and Kiara to be Citizens more than him.
spies8gertrude (3:14:58 PM): Also, I did not know about Kiara's roleclaim before I voted, in case that's asked.
spies8cinnamyn (3:15:16 PM): wut about kiara made u think she wuz cit.?
spies8gertrude (3:17:33 PM): A few things. Early on in the game, I had a conversation with her in which her answers to my questions seemed genuine and pro-town. Then, when she refused to say whatever it was Tina told her to get her vote off of Allan, it made her look better in my eyes. Also, her defense against Hambone and attack on Jenny again, seemed genuine and town-like.
spies8cinnamyn (3:18:53 PM): i dont get y her refusin' 2 say y makez her luk better. she wuz told sumthin by tina (whom she suspected) dat made her switch off of allan (whom she suspected), n' da nex' day tina wuz imp'd
spies8cinnamyn (3:19:33 PM): y she tuk da words of tina, a suspect, iz a mystery 2 me
spies8gertrude (3:21:03 PM): You're right. It looks bad. But, it easily could've been avoided if she was a Spy. She could've said Tina told her practically anything and gotten away with it. But she didn't. So, in my mind, it looked good.
spies8gertrude (3:21:12 PM): Though, obviously, I see your point.
spies8cinnamyn (3:22:49 PM): aight yall im out 4 a bit, will b back l8r
spies8claude (3:22:53 PM): I do think that Cinnamyn has somewhat of a point. The last thing Kiara told us before that, she was suspicious of Tina.
spies8claude (3:23:07 PM): To just then take something Tina says at face value is fairly inconsistent.
spies8cinnamyn (3:23:31 PM): unless she iz a spy, n' there4 new tina wuz a cit n' wuz feigning suspishin
spies8cinnamyn (3:23:33 PM): ok but im leavin 4 real
spies8lawrence (3:23:45 PM): This depends on what exactly Tina said, I believe
spies8gertrude (3:25:33 PM): I think the point that Tina ended up Imprisoned after that is a null (and quite frankly, dumb) one.
spies8gertrude (3:25:56 PM): Tina was universally known as the best Citizen and it would've been shocking had she NOT been Imprisoned.
spies8chance (3:53:07 PM): so what are we talking about?
spies8kiara (3:54:40 PM): me, at least until cinnamyn left
spies8chance (3:54:51 PM): ah.
spies8chance (3:54:57 PM): well, i think you're innocent.
spies8kiara (3:55:08 PM): try telling her that
spies8chance (3:55:17 PM): eh, cinnamyn is cinnamyn.
spies8kiara (3:55:34 PM): that was both deep and insightful, chance
spies8chance (3:55:44 PM): i know, i'm like that.
spies8lawrence (3:58:06 PM): Cinnamyn's speech patterns are difficult for an oldster like myself to read
spies8lawrence (3:58:30 PM): However, just like her namesake, I assume the spice of youth is needed to complete the dish.
spies8kiara (3:59:25 PM): it does take my brain a few rotations to figure out what shes trying to say
spies8lawrence (4:36:54 PM): Anyways, I am off for my performance at the children's theater
spies8lawrence (4:37:07 PM): I should be back later in the night to discuss things, they do not attend late shows very well
spies8lawrence (4:37:11 PM): I will see you all later
spies8kiara (4:37:14 PM): bye

[Lawrence]

Gertrude

spies8lawrence (3:36:08 PM): The Burg, unfortunately, contains a lot of required reading
spies8gertrude (3:36:28 PM): Damn those honors classes.
spies8lawrence (3:36:35 PM): This is getting tedious, I think I will take a break
spies8lawrence (3:36:48 PM): How are you today, my dear Gertrude?
spies8gertrude (3:36:52 PM): What have you learned so far?
spies8gertrude (3:37:03 PM): I'm not too bad. Lazy days of summer are nice.
spies8gertrude (3:37:05 PM): You?
spies8lawrence (3:37:16 PM): I'm getting educated on how things went down, mainly
spies8lawrence (3:37:29 PM): Lazy summer days are nice on these old bones, but I do have a show to perform tonight
spies8lawrence (3:37:57 PM): I find in games such as this, AIM helps me more than board posts
spies8gertrude (3:38:38 PM): Gotcha.
spies8lawrence (3:39:51 PM): It is saddening that not many people have the time during the day to chat online.
spies8lawrence (3:40:05 PM): And when people will be on, I will be away for the evening
spies8gertrude (3:40:31 PM): Eh, it's understandable. Guy's gotta eat.
spies8gertrude (3:40:38 PM): Gotta have money to eat.
spies8lawrence (3:41:00 PM): And oh do I love to eat . . .
spies8gertrude (3:41:25 PM): Ha.
spies8gertrude (3:41:28 PM): Who doesn't?
spies8lawrence (3:41:39 PM): Savannah?
spies8gertrude (3:43:34 PM): Dead people don't eat.
spies8lawrence (3:43:48 PM): When she was alive, she was quite skinny
spies8lawrence (3:44:01 PM): Someone should have told her to consume some McDonald's
spies8gertrude (3:44:17 PM): Ha.
spies8lawrence (3:46:35 PM): Oh, I have just remembered
spies8lawrence (3:46:42 PM): I have a question for you
spies8lawrence (3:46:59 PM): In your "Dearest Allan" thread, you mentioned that Allan had a role
spies8gertrude (3:47:09 PM): Yes.
spies8lawrence (3:47:17 PM): I've seen it mentioned earlier in the board, but are you at liberty to tell me what it did?
spies8lawrence (3:47:37 PM): I've seen the fact that he has a role mentioned, not it's power.
spies8gertrude (3:47:39 PM): Ye shall never find out!
spies8gertrude (3:47:48 PM): Allan was able to copy roles that were used on him.
spies8gertrude (3:48:15 PM): If a cop investigated him, he would then have an investigative role the next round
spies8lawrence (3:48:31 PM): That sounds useful
spies8gertrude (3:48:36 PM): Since the Spy messenger sent him a message, he was able to send Owen a messgae.
spies8lawrence (3:48:37 PM): I can see why you are so angry with him
spies8gertrude (3:48:39 PM): message*
spies8lawrence (3:48:45 PM): A Spy messenger?
spies8gertrude (3:48:56 PM): Yes.
spies8lawrence (3:48:57 PM): I have yet to hear of such a role
spies8gertrude (3:49:15 PM): Well, there's one out there.
spies8lawrence (3:49:25 PM): Interesting
spies8lawrence (3:49:41 PM): That fact doesn't change anything about our situation really, but interesting
spies8gertrude (3:49:55 PM): Indeed.
spies8gertrude (3:50:14 PM): Are you aware of Claude's role and its abilities?
spies8lawrence (3:50:26 PM): Yes, I have read that already
spies8lawrence (3:50:37 PM): The Majority Whip, correct?
spies8lawrence (3:50:54 PM): brb
spies8gertrude (3:51:18 PM): Yes, and ok.
spies8lawrence (3:57:49 PM): I have returned
spies8gertrude (3:58:33 PM): I can breathe again.
spies8lawrence (3:58:49 PM): You are quite the comic, my dear
spies8gertrude (3:59:50 PM): I try.

[Lawrence]

Mary

spies8mary (12:19:02 PM): Hi.
spies8lawrence (12:19:09 PM): Hello my dear
spies8lawrence (12:19:14 PM): How are you this pleasant morning?
spies8mary (12:19:20 PM): Are you feeling up to the challenge?
spies8mary (12:19:23 PM): I'm ok.
spies8lawrence (12:19:46 PM): To answer your question, I am afraid I must give up this cringe-worthy facade of a character.
spies8lawrence (12:19:52 PM): OMG YES I WAS BORN READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
spies8lawrence (12:19:58 PM): (resumes being Lawrence)
spies8mary (12:20:17 PM): How did Sam convince you to take on this task?
spies8mary (12:20:25 PM): Were you bribed?
spies8lawrence (12:20:40 PM): No . . . I was just waiting for a spot to open up so I could replace into the game.
spies8lawrence (12:20:47 PM): I know that Sam knows how to host a fantastic event.
spies8mary (12:20:50 PM): That's nice.
spies8mary (12:20:56 PM): Are you new to Spies?
spies8lawrence (12:21:05 PM): No, my dear.
spies8mary (12:21:07 PM): I promise I won't accuse you.
spies8lawrence (12:21:23 PM): I have experience as a Citizen in this game, but never a Spy.
spies8lawrence (12:21:30 PM): That is all I will say on the matter.
spies8mary (12:21:35 PM): That's good.
spies8mary (12:21:43 PM): Then you're prepared to play like a Citizen.
spies8lawrence (12:21:54 PM): Yes, I am.
spies8mary (12:22:11 PM): Right now, if anyone's watching, they know you and I are not idle.
spies8mary (12:22:20 PM): We'll need to take this to group chat pretty soon.
spies8lawrence (12:22:47 PM): That is quite alright, I have been meaning to ask individuals about how the game has gone on.
spies8mary (12:22:53 PM): In fact, you should probably say hello in group chat.
spies8lawrence (12:22:56 PM): Preferrably Citizens, but none seem to be online.
spies8mary (12:23:02 PM): I am a Citizen.
spies8mary (12:23:09 PM): The best one, in fact.
spies8mary (12:23:22 PM): I'll jump in to group chat in a moment.
spies8lawrence (12:23:25 PM): Then I chose a very good person to help educate me
spies8mary (12:23:32 PM): I doubt you need education.
spies8mary (12:23:39 PM): An update is in order.
spies8mary (12:23:48 PM): There are about 6 confirmed Citizens in an alliance.
spies8lawrence (12:23:50 PM): Regardless of if I do or not . . . I will request it
spies8mary (12:23:51 PM): You do not know this.
spies8lawrence (12:24:00 PM): I saw it mentioned in the HQ . . . who are they?
spies8mary (12:24:10 PM): Cory, Gertrude, Owen, Chance, Claude, Kiara.
spies8mary (12:24:24 PM): We will likely need to imprison most of them.
spies8mary (12:24:36 PM): Gertrude and Chance confirmed each other as masons 100%.
spies8lawrence (12:24:37 PM): Why is Claude targetting Chance, then?
spies8mary (12:24:43 PM): He's faking it now.
spies8lawrence (12:24:56 PM): I see
spies8mary (12:25:04 PM): Ok flipping over.
spies8lawrence (12:26:06 PM): (Also, if the time comes and we need to use it, I am 98% sure of Jenny's alias.)
spies8mary (12:26:23 PM): Who is it?
spies8lawrence (12:26:31 PM): Davidj, viewer of Spies 7
spies8mary (12:26:34 PM): Ok.
spies8mary (12:31:36 PM): You can pretend not to have spoken with me in private.
spies8mary (12:31:42 PM): Or just briefly last night.
spies8lawrence (12:31:44 PM): I wasn't going to mention it
spies8mary (12:31:55 PM): Clever boy.
spies8mary (12:47:10 PM): I am definitely going to come after you aggressively once you're done reading a fair amount.
spies8mary (12:47:24 PM): But I will prepare you well for the things I'll ask.
spies8mary (12:47:51 PM): So you should be able to answer convincingly.
spies8lawrence (12:47:56 PM): Thank you
spies8lawrence (12:48:01 PM): I do not want to catch up too quickly
spies8mary (12:48:09 PM): I suspect that you and I will be the final two Spies remaining.
spies8lawrence (12:48:22 PM): Cinnamyn warned me, and I agree, that people may jump to conclusions
spies8lawrence (12:48:29 PM): If I suddenly know lots of information
spies8mary (12:48:31 PM): The entire Senate suspects Cinnamyn.
spies8lawrence (12:48:38 PM): Oh really?
spies8mary (12:48:40 PM): Yes.
spies8lawrence (12:48:52 PM): This is why the Burg is un-useful in gaining information in Spies
spies8mary (12:49:01 PM): I think she has a few episodes to recover before she is their top vote target.
spies8lawrence (12:49:06 PM): Outlines, yes, details, no.
spies8mary (12:49:08 PM): But she is not impressing anyone.
spies8lawrence (12:49:25 PM): Should I try hard to earn my vote back at this point, or wait a round?
spies8lawrence (12:49:33 PM): I know I do NOT want to be the voteless player
spies8lawrence (12:49:49 PM): But is it too soon after replacement, and tactically is it better if I am not in the power level?
spies8mary (12:50:06 PM): You might earn bonus points with an honest statement that you need to learn more before having that vote.
spies8lawrence (12:50:54 PM): Then I shall wait
spies8lawrence (1:23:29 PM): This may be obvious, but I apologize if I don't have much input in Imprisonment discussion, as I am still getting my sea legs
spies8mary (1:23:39 PM): You'll do fine.
spies8lawrence (1:27:39 PM): How does Hambone stack up in the Burg attitude?
spies8mary (1:30:01 PM): You could get away with letting him slip under your radar for now.
spies8mary (1:30:24 PM): People are middle of the road on him.
spies8lawrence (1:30:26 PM): He does seem to be away
spies8lawrence (1:52:14 PM): So far, I think a safe person for me to suspect (with valid reasoning, not all the way caught up) is Jasmine
spies8lawrence (1:52:23 PM): Mainly for being under the radar, but its a start
spies8lawrence (1:52:31 PM): And I can investigate her like a Citizen would
spies8mary (1:53:31 PM): Good.
spies8mary (1:53:52 PM): Be aware that she made the initial post on Isaac and they attacked each other.
spies8lawrence (1:54:06 PM): (I haven't read up to that point yet.)
spies8mary (1:54:07 PM): So you will have to explain how that was two Spies distancing.
spies8lawrence (1:54:17 PM): But that's simple enough
spies8lawrence (1:54:34 PM): I don't want to delay my suspiciosn too long for fear of being accused of coasting
spies8lawrence (1:54:41 PM): But I don't want to jump onto a prominent bandwagon either
spies8mary (1:55:02 PM): Stephanie is convinced old Lawrence was a Spy.
spies8mary (1:55:23 PM): You can either ignore her, attack her, or try to suck up to her.
spies8lawrence (1:55:46 PM): Ignore her, for now, I think
spies8lawrence (1:56:14 PM): Blatant sucking up would be obvious, but protown play should help alleviate things (especially with the time delay between our appearances in the game)
spies8mary (1:57:17 PM): She is very upset about the Zed exile.
spies8mary (1:57:41 PM): If you make a post attacking the entire process of Episode 6 nominations and Senate votes
spies8mary (1:57:51 PM): You will win her over without being obvious.
spies8lawrence (1:58:14 PM): You have very fine ideas
spies8lawrence (1:58:29 PM): I am no where near prepared to make a post just yet, but that is a definite possibility
spies8mary (1:58:36 PM): Flattery will get you nowhere, Lawrence.
spies8lawrence (1:58:58 PM): Why would I have to earn favor with you?
spies8lawrence (1:59:05 PM): We are on the same team, after all.
spies8mary (1:59:38 PM): I'll never admit to that.
spies8mary (2:00:03 PM): You will see that Episode 6 was a giant mess.
spies8mary (2:00:27 PM): It started with Claude restricting Owen to three choices: Zed, Kiara, Chance.
spies8mary (2:00:54 PM): Owen made a mistake and asked the Burg to help him get more choices besides Chance to vote for.
spies8mary (2:01:21 PM): So Jenny, Chance, Dane and a few others manipulated the results such that those three actually became the nominees.
spies8mary (2:01:41 PM): At least five people did not vote their top suspect. It was a very suspect process.
spies8mary (2:02:05 PM): And then the Senators changed their vote from Kiara to Zed at the last minute.
spies8mary (2:02:31 PM): I believe the reason is public now, in a group chat. Kiara claimed her role with 20 minutes remaining.
spies8lawrence (2:02:56 PM): Ai yi yi yi, that is a mess
spies8mary (2:03:11 PM): So many Spies, so little time, Lawrence.
spies8mary (2:03:15 PM): Go get them.
spies8lawrence (2:03:32 PM): As I said, I have a gig tonight, but I will make the most of my time
spies8mary (2:03:41 PM): You have plenty of time.
spies8lawrence (2:19:30 PM): Does it make me a horrible person if I genuinely laughed at that?
spies8mary (2:19:48 PM): No.
spies8mary (2:51:39 PM): Oh ho ho.
spies8mary (2:51:42 PM): Very nice.
spies8lawrence (4:08:42 PM): I am jealous of you . . . I wish I would have gotten to play a full game as a Spy
spies8lawrence (4:08:48 PM): Oh well, I will make the most of it when I am here

[Lawrence]

Jenny

spies8lawrence (11:03:37 AM): Hello my dear Jenny
spies8jenny (11:04:33 AM): Hi there, how are you?
spies8lawrence (11:04:46 AM): I am fine, your interest is appreciated.
spies8lawrence (11:04:48 AM): Yourself/
spies8lawrence (11:04:49 AM): ?
spies8jenny (11:05:47 AM): Doing alright, at work right now.
spies8jenny (11:05:52 AM): How is catching up going.
spies8lawrence (11:06:07 AM): Tis understandable, if only I had a gig today . . .
spies8lawrence (11:06:28 AM): I am just beginning my efforts to catch up, as I focused last night's shindig as a means to introduce myself to these new faces.
spies8lawrence (11:07:25 AM): I do however have a basic idea of what has happened so far with who is gone and such.
spies8lawrence (11:07:47 AM): You managed to catch three of the criminals for me before I came in (four if you count Nita)!
spies8lawrence (11:07:51 AM): How exciting!
spies8lawrence (11:11:31 AM): Unfortunately, it seems I am at a loss as to where to begin learning all I can about this game.
spies8lawrence (11:12:01 AM): I suppose I could attempt to read the Burg, but I believe much more can be gleaned from one-on-one interactions.

[Lawrence]

spies8


spies8claude has entered the room. 9:35 pm
spies8jenny has entered the room. 9:35 pm
spies8mary has entered the room. 9:35 pm
spies8lawrence has entered the room. 9:35 pm
spies8lawrence 9:35 pm
Good evening my fellow Burg inhabitants
spies8gertrude has entered the room. 9:47 pm
spies8gertrude 9:47 pm
Hey there, everyone.
spies8claude 9:47 pm
Howdy.
spies8gertrude 9:49 pm
Hey, husband.
spies8lawrence 9:49 pm
Hello Gertrude, Claude
spies8gertrude 9:49 pm
Your night for diapers.
spies8lawrence 9:49 pm
You two are married?
spies8gertrude 9:49 pm
How could you miss that?
spies8claude 9:49 pm
...
spies8lawrence 9:50 pm
(This is my first full game day, my apologies)
spies8jenny 9:50 pm
He was gone for it remember?
Even if it was still the old Lawry.
spies8gertrude 9:50 pm
I'm still offended.
spies8lawrence 9:50 pm
Claude, I encourage you not to beat your wife
And do not go clowning around on her behind her back . . . Gertrude is a fine dame
spies8jenny 9:51 pm
Be right back, need to return the computer for a minute.
spies8gertrude 9:51 pm
I programmed him not to do those things.
spies8lawrence 9:56 pm
That is one way to ensure fidelity
spies8claude 9:57 pm
role playing
still lame
spies8gertrude 9:57 pm
Yes, yes, dear.
*pats you giant metal forehead*
your*
spies8lawrence 9:58 pm
Do you need to turn the complaint meter down a tad?
spies8gertrude 9:58 pm
I like my man to be a little bitchy.
spies8claude 9:58 pm
What?
spies8lawrence 10:02 pm
Why are there barely any players online?
This saddens me
There are a few of us, true, I just wish there were more
spies8gertrude 10:02 pm
Welcome to Spies 8.
spies8lawrence 10:04 pm
A sad statement
spies8jenny 10:17 pm
Okies, I'm back!
spies8lawrence 10:17 pm
Gertrude, your husband is not very talkative
spies8gertrude 10:18 pm
Words are not the only way we communicate, Lawrence.
spies8claude 10:18 pm
I don't even know what that means
I'm not completely at keys; playing a game with some buddies also.
spies8jenny 10:19 pm
Wow, I didn't miss much.
spies8lawrence 10:19 pm
That is understandable then
I remember the nights of my youth, playing monopoly with my friends
Oh how I loved that game
It was great sleight of hand practice, making their money disappear and reappear in front of me
spies8gertrude 10:21 pm
Roleplaying.
Sigh.
Right, dear?
spies8claude 10:23 pm
Meh, whatever. Talking about mafia seems like a fine plan.
spies8gertrude 10:24 pm
Jenny, what does this latest Exile say to you?
spies8jenny 10:25 pm
Besides being wrong on Zeddy, and Al is a twit?
spies8gertrude 10:25 pm
Yes.
spies8jenny 10:26 pm
Well the information about Kitty that came out from it is helpful, especially since it revealed a dead spy role.
I was thinking that the exile blocker might have been a possible spy role, but with that, I'm thinking it's more likely that it along with Claude and Kitty's have a good chance of being town.
spies8cory has entered the room. 10:32 pm
spies8jenny 10:33 pm
Hi Cory!
spies8lawrence 10:33 pm
Good evening Cory
spies8cory 10:35 pm
Hello
spies8lawrence 10:36 pm
How are you this fine evening?
spies8kiara has entered the room. 10:41 pm
spies8kiara 10:41 pm
hey
spies8jenny 10:41 pm
Hi Kitty!
spies8kiara 10:41 pm
whats up?
spies8broderick has entered the room. 10:42 pm
spies8jenny 10:42 pm
Hi Ricky!

And not much happening really today.
spies8cory 10:43 pm
I'm alright.
spies8broderick 10:43 pm
lol Hi

[Lawrence]

Jenny

spies8jenny 9:37 pm
Hi there Lawry!
spies8lawrence 9:37 pm
Hello my dear, how are you this fine evening?
spies8jenny 9:38 pm
I'm doing alright, you?
spies8lawrence 9:38 pm
I simply happen to have the most marvelous news!
spies8jenny 9:38 pm
Oh?
spies8lawrence 9:38 pm
My performance for the children's theater went well.
And in attendance with her daughter was the local nursing home director
She simply adores bringing in entertainment for her elderly patients
And she asked me to come and perform there tomorrow night!
spies8lawrence 9:39 pm
Unfortunately, I won't be at Imprisonment . . . but I will be able to fill my stomach!
It is hard to upkeep my hearty belly on a performer's budget, you see.
spies8jenny 9:40 pm
Well that's good to hear
spies8lawrence 9:42 pm
Ack
I must now continue my quest to read the Burg
Not a fun expedition, I assure you.
spies8jenny 9:47 pm
How is that going so far anyways?
spies8lawrence 9:48 pm
I'm about halfway through, but I am not gathering as much information as I would like
I am taking the quantity over quality approach, as I believe AIM will be the most lucrative investigative platform
spies8jenny 9:50 pm
Anything interesting so far?
spies8lawrence 9:51 pm
Not particularly
Except I have just discovered the happy union of Claude and Gertrude
spies8lawrence 10:24 pm
So Jenny, my dear, would you mind telling me who you think are the criminals?
I would like to learn about both the past and the present
spies8jenny 10:39 pm
Well I did have Zeddy as a suspect, but obviously it's not him.

Right now I'm reorganizing a bit. A couple of the people I was worried about are a bit more safe to me now, so I'm working out how things go together now.
spies8lawrence 10:43 pm
Why exactly was everyone suspicious of Zedekiah?
spies8jenny 10:44 pm
A lot had to do with things that happened in the first two episodes, and then the impression that he was going into hiding after it.

[Lawrence]

Broderick

Hello Broderick
spies8broderick 10:04 pm
Hi Lawrence
spies8lawrence 10:04 pm
How are you this fine evening?
spies8broderick 10:04 pm
Excellent.
you?
spies8lawrence 10:04 pm
Quite cheerful
Trying to get caught up in the Burg as well
spies8broderick 10:05 pm
How is that going?
spies8lawrence 10:06 pm
Tedious, but at least the Burg is at a manageable size
spies8broderick 10:09 pm
lol yeah.
spies8lawrence 10:11 pm
May I ask your current thoughts on who the criminals in our midst are?
spies8lawrence 10:11 pm
While I am still behind, I would like to learn about the present as much as the past
spies8broderick 10:11 pm
lol excellent question
I find I have too many people to fit the four spies slots lol
spies8lawrence 10:12 pm
That is most definitely a problem
spies8broderick 10:12 pm
Gertrude, Cinnamyn, Jasmine, Chance. But all four together I just don't see as spies
spies8broderick 10:13 pm
Jenny and Stephanie are possiblities, but lower on the list. Steph mostly now because of episode two and being the only unknown voted for
spies8lawrence 10:13 pm
How does being the only unknown voted for reflect criminal activity?
spies8broderick 10:14 pm
it doesn't necessarily, but every one else voted for that episode were cits
I suspected her before, and she kind of fell off the list because other people were more present on it. She isn't really a suspect, more an 'I'm watching you like a hawk' lol
spies8broderick 10:15 pm
Owen/Cory/Awohali/Claude - very high chance a spy is amongst them.
spies8lawrence 10:15 pm
So far in my reading, I agree that Jasmine seems to act like she doesn't want to be seen
spies8broderick 10:15 pm
Owen/Cory definitely I think
spies8lawrence 10:15 pm
Those are the possible markings of a criminal
Why Owen?
Did he not Exile Isaac over Jenny and Stephanie?
spies8broderick 10:16 pm
But that goes back to a running theory I have had since about episode 3. I thought one of tina/owen was a spy. a 'power cit'
spies8lawrence 10:16 pm
I have seen that kind of argument before, however, I don't put much stock in it
Unless, of course, there is more substantial evidence than that
spies8broderick 10:16 pm
It isn't just 'power cit"
spies8lawrence 10:17 pm
What else is there, then?
spies8broderick 10:17 pm
I think there needs to be a relatively calm-demeanored player on the spy team.
There is always a leader
They all can't be emotionally explosive, or total failures lol
mags and alexei were up on the fial scale. mags was definitely a freaking lunatic
spies8lawrence 10:18 pm
I understand your line of logic, but isn't typecasting the Spies a bit dangerous?
What if they are to break the mold?
spies8broderick 10:18 pm
*shrug*
It isn't what I'm basing all of my thoughts and suspicions on
Keeping it in my head
spies8lawrence 10:21 pm
But you do have actual evidence, correct?
spies8broderick 10:22 pm
Actual evidence for what?
spies8lawrence 10:22 pm
For those individuals being criminals
spies8broderick 10:23 pm
lol, which ones are you talking about?
spies8lawrence 10:23 pm
Guesswork about the personality makeup of the Spies is fine
spies8lawrence 10:23 pm
But it needs to be supported by evidence
Calling Owen a power cit, for instance
spies8broderick 10:24 pm
"But that goes back to a running theory I have had since about episode 3. I thought one of tina/owen was a spy. a 'power cit'"
spies8lawrence 10:24 pm
I understand that you have a running theory
But why?
spies8broderick 10:24 pm
He was part of the Alexei lynch episode one. He has been in 'the circle' since probably about then.
He was chosen Dictator, he voted Isaac, Mags
spies8lawrence 10:25 pm
Wasn't Alexei a Spy?
Isaac a Spy?
Magalie a Spy?
spies8lawrence 10:25 pm
Why on earth would this make Owen a Spy?
spies8broderick 10:25 pm
Do you not know what a power citizen is?
I did not say he WAS one
spies8lawrence 10:25 pm
I would assume it means a key Citizen
spies8broderick 10:26 pm
I said I had a working theory since ep 3 that one of he and tina was a spy.
spies8lawrence 10:26 pm
"But that goes back to a running theory I have had since about episode 3. I thought one of tina/owen was a spy. a 'power cit'"
spies8broderick 10:26 pm
Which then half developed ito include 'power cit' in there
spies8lawrence 10:26 pm
Owen/Cory/Awohali/Claude - very high chance a spy is amongst them.
spies8broderick 10:26 pm
And?
spies8lawrence 10:26 pm
Owen/Cory definitely I think
How is this not saying you believe Owen is a Spy?
spies8broderick 10:26 pm
Quote where I said owen is a spy
spies8lawrence 10:27 pm
Your comments to me indicate suspicion of Owen
You mentioned Owen in three different groups
spies8broderick 10:27 pm
Yes I am suspicious of him. But i did not call him a spy
spies8lawrence 10:27 pm
All three groups were connected to who you likely thought was a Spy
spies8broderick 10:27 pm
Not really
For different reasons mostly
Assuming only gets you one place, and it isnt good lol
spies8lawrence 10:28 pm
Why are you so eager to deny belief that Owen is a Spy?
spies8broderick 10:29 pm
I am not denying believe
*belief
spies8lawrence 10:29 pm
You said you are suspicious of him, why deny it when I ask about it?
spies8broderick 10:29 pm
But I did not say 'Owen is a spy'
spies8broderick 10:29 pm
I don't like to be misinterpreted or misrepped
spies8lawrence 10:29 pm
But you are suspicious of him
The natural progression of suspicion is believing that one is a Spy
spies8broderick 10:29 pm
Saying 'owen is a spy' implies certainty
That I know he is a spy
Believing and knowing are not the same
spies8lawrence 10:30 pm
I think our disagreement here is a matter of semantics
spies8broderick 10:30 pm
Believing and knowing are not the same
spies8lawrence 10:30 pm
I take suspicion of someone as a belief that they may be a Spy
Why on earth would this make Owen a Spy?
Was my question
spies8lawrence 10:31 pm
I did not mean to say "Why do you claim Owen is a Spy?," because you don't.
spies8broderick 10:32 pm
Yes but that does not equal saying 'Owen is a spy'.
spies8lawrence 10:32 pm
I meant to say "Why would this make you believe Owen is a Spy?"
spies8broderick 10:32 pm
As I said. saying that implies certaintiy, that you know for a fact
Any ways
spies8lawrence 10:33 pm
I did not say anything indicative of you "knowing" Owen is a Spy until after you denied it
But I see this is turning into a back and forth that neither of us will win
spies8broderick 10:33 pm
He lurks, he isn't in the public eye with posts. He doesnt make cases
spies8broderick 10:33 pm
Which can be seen as indicative of not being a power cit
But obviously his votes are landing in the correct spot for some reason
spies8lawrence 10:34 pm
Now this is the evidence I was asking about . . . I now see your logic.
Thank you
spies8broderick 10:38 pm
lol
spies8broderick 10:41 pm
Have you got any thoughts on the spies?
spies8lawrence 10:41 pm
Not ones with much merit or support, I am afraid
I am still trying to catch up in the Burg
However, I do admit Jasmine (based on the Burg) seems to be keeping a low profile
I would like to speak with her on AIM so that I can get a more personal read, but I would put her as one to watch
spies8broderick 10:43 pm
She has been on two vacations lately if I remember right
spies8lawrence 10:44 pm
That would explain things

[Lawrence]

What episode did the Magalie-Zedekiah slip up occur, and is it posted in the Burg?
spies8mary 11:04 am
Hi.
Yes, it was in exile 5 group chat I think.
spies8lawrence 11:04 am
Ok
Sorry, I am getting paranoid that I had missed such valuable material in my reading
spies8mary 11:05 am
You can search on "Zed confirmed Cit" or "Zed isn't a spy?"
It sounds like you're doing well.
I'm almost ready to attack you.
spies8lawrence 11:05 am
I thought she cleared him based off of someone elses voting history
Also
spies8mary 11:05 am
Yes.
spies8lawrence 11:05 am
I believe I have a valid nomination vote already
spies8mary 11:05 am
Broderick?
spies8lawrence 11:05 am
Yes, my dear
spies8mary 11:05 am
Good.
spies8lawrence 11:06 am
He told me he suspected a plethora of people
spies8mary 11:06 am
You will be on the sidelines while Jenny and Awohali battle it out today.
spies8lawrence 11:06 am
Easily could be construed as playing the field, not calling out individuals, etc
spies8mary 11:06 am
Ok, good.
spies8lawrence 11:06 am
And for bad reasoning
spies8mary 11:06 am
Stephanie is very suspect of Jenny for the Zed exile.
Everything is coming together well right now.
spies8lawrence 11:06 am
I do not mind taking the sidelines in the debate, however, I will go ahead and make my post (incorporating in the Zed information)
spies8mary 11:07 am
Good.
spies8lawrence 11:07 am
Probably tonight or tomorrow during the day
I have another gig tonight, at the retirement center
They sleep through the performance, but easy money, so I can not complain
spies8mary 11:07 am
That sounds exciting.
Better take your blood pressure meds.
spies8lawrence 11:07 am
Thank you for the reminder
spies8mary 11:08 am
I am feeling so much better today.
After my second therapy session with Claude.
He is a very good psychologist.
spies8lawrence 11:08 am
I have yet to click the links in that thread, but a little bit of therapy could never hurt
spies8mary 11:08 am
I'm only posting them as part of the therapy.
It's supposed to keep my bad side in check.
spies8lawrence 11:08 am
I see
spies8mary 11:09 am
I'm not sure it's working.
I almost stabbed Cory in the eye socket last night.
I will try to gather more evidence against Jenny and Awohali for Hambone and Cinnamyn to use.
spies8mary 11:10 am
I will look for some on Broderick too while I'm at it.
spies8lawrence 11:10 am
Thank you
spies8mary 11:10 am
It'll be in the HQ.
spies8lawrence 11:10 am
I think my best position is not to get into the center of the conflict surrounding Jenny and Awohali
spies8mary 11:10 am
I agree.
You need to focus on getting voters off your back.
spies8lawrence 11:10 am
I will take a stance depending on who is legitimately more suspicious, but I will focus on Broderick and the Zedekiah debacle
spies8mary 11:10 am
Particularly Stephanie.
Perfect.
spies8lawrence 11:11 am
I've noticed that people tend to shy away from suspecting new replacements, even though there is no reason to, because the alignment has not changed
spies8mary 11:11 am
Yes.
spies8lawrence 11:11 am
Depending on how experienced Stephanie is, this could easily help me out
spies8mary 11:11 am
They are giving you time to prove yourself.
spies8lawrence 11:11 am
Which I will, fairly soon
spies8lawrence 11:12 am
I am on page two of the Burg
spies8mary 11:12 am
I am curious to see which Citizens you were in the past.
spies8lawrence 11:12 am
I am curious to see who you were in the past as well
spies8mary 11:12 am
That will be a fun surprise.
spies8lawrence 11:12 am
There is more truth in that statement than you know
spies8mary 11:14 am
You don't have to do it now, but be prepared to attack one spy fairly soon.
That will be the kind of thing that carries us to endgame.
One weak but persistent attack that people look at later and say "No way were they spies together."
spies8lawrence 11:15 am
I agree
The Zedekiah post will lead into that quite nicely
spies8mary 11:15 am
Good.
spies8lawrence 11:16 am
Cinnamyn was shady there correct?
spies8mary 11:16 am
Hmm.
She voted Kiara.
spies8lawrence 11:16 am
Oh right, right
I apologize
spies8mary 11:17 am
Dane and Chance nominated Zed.
spies8lawrence 11:17 am
sorry i must leave
spies8mary 11:17 am
Ok.
Bye.

[Lawrence]

Rondak

Hello Rondak
How are you this fine morning?
spies8rondak 11:13 am
Good, good.
So, are you new-Lawrence?
spies8lawrence 11:13 am
Quite enthused at the opportunity to play the final installment of this fine game
Yourself?
spies8rondak 11:13 am
First time player here, too bad there will be no more games
spies8rondak 11:14 am
I'm a replacement myself, so I guess I should welcome you to the B-club, LOL
spies8lawrence 11:14 am
Quite a fine sounding organization if I do say so myself
spies8rondak 11:17 am
so, are you still catching up on the game?
spies8lawrence 11:17 am
sorry i must leave

[Lawrence]

Mary

spies8lawrence (12:48:16 PM): Pointing out that Jenny, archiver of group chats, was the one to post the Magalie slip seems bad on her part, no?
spies8lawrence (12:48:24 PM): (If she did in fact post it)
spies8mary (12:53:59 PM): Good point.
spies8lawrence (12:54:45 PM): As already stated, I won't take a major contributory role, but I will not hesitate to chime in with this little nugget at an appropiate time
spies8lawrence (1:43:26 PM): How long has the Axis of Evil (the Citizen alliance) been functional?
spies8lawrence (1:54:11 PM): I just read your critique . . . which I find quite humorous.
spies8mary (1:55:43 PM): Which critique?
spies8lawrence (1:55:55 PM): Where someone left you a message
spies8mary (1:56:05 PM): And the Citizen alliance started after the Doctor saved and Allan claimed.
spies8lawrence (1:56:10 PM): Quite humorously creative
spies8lawrence (1:56:27 PM): They do a good job of hiding their alliance on the Burg
spies8mary (1:56:33 PM): Yes.
spies8mary (1:56:46 PM): The Doctor saved, and we killed his save.
spies8mary (1:56:56 PM): He went to Allan, most likely.
spies8mary (1:57:08 PM): As did the exile/imprisonment-protecting masons.
spies8mary (1:57:28 PM): Owen got in touch with them and Tina was a member.
spies8lawrence (1:57:35 PM): Unfortunately, I am called out
spies8mary (1:57:38 PM): Ok.
spies8lawrence (1:57:45 PM): I will be back shortly, if you have more to say you can leave it here, I will read it
spies8mary (1:57:49 PM): Ok.
spies8mary (1:58:16 PM): Basically, you will want to express suspicion of any of them even though they are confirmed.
spies8mary (1:58:34 PM): Cory, Chance, Gertrude, Kiara.
spies8mary (1:58:47 PM): Claude looks fairly Citizen to me but some people disagree.
spies8mary (2:16:22 PM): By the way, I don't think you should waste any time addressing anything the old Lawrence did.
spies8mary (2:16:28 PM): None at all.
spies8mary (2:17:09 PM): That would make you look defensive, and it's easier for you to just say he didn't seem very good at spyhunting.
spies8mary (2:17:50 PM): So I am excited to see the new cases you make. They will quite possibly launch you into Citizen status, as a few people already trust you more than they should.
spies8mary (2:17:57 PM): Owen and Cory, specifically.
spies8mary (2:19:20 PM): Next time you chat me up privately, let's do so under the pretense of a Citizen conversation.
spies8mary (2:19:48 PM): If Claude is paying attention, he knows you and I have not been "idle" and thus have probably been talking.

[Lawrence]

Jasmine

spies8lawrence (2:45:40 PM): Hello my dear Jasmine
spies8jasmine (2:45:48 PM): Hi Lawrence!
spies8lawrence (2:45:51 PM): How are you this lazy summer afternoon?
spies8jasmine (2:46:28 PM): Fine. I just got home from vacation. Caughting up, are we on break? Or is everyone just not online?
spies8lawrence (2:46:39 PM): Unfortunately the latter
spies8jasmine (2:46:44 PM): Gotcha.
spies8lawrence (2:46:54 PM): Although, the lull in chat does make it easy to read the Burg
spies8lawrence (2:47:12 PM): I am almost finished, which I consider a triumphant feat considering the magnitude of material
spies8jasmine (2:47:21 PM): omg this was live?
spies8jasmine (2:47:22 PM): this is so hot
spies8jasmine (2:47:37 PM): id have came like a million times with my penis if i was in this
spies8lawrence (2:47:56 PM): Ah, the hormones of youth
spies8lawrence (2:48:02 PM): Such a simpler time
spies8lawrence (2:48:12 PM): What are you talking about though, the live Exile?
spies8jasmine (2:48:25 PM): Yes.
spies8jasmine (2:48:28 PM): I'm watching the videos
spies8jasmine (2:48:29 PM):
spies8lawrence (2:48:45 PM): Ah, I see
spies8lawrence (2:49:05 PM): May I ask, my dear, whom you consider to be the criminals in our midst?
spies8lawrence (2:49:12 PM): I admire learning about the present as much as I do the past.
spies8jasmine (2:49:17 PM): I haven't been here in 5 days.
spies8jasmine (2:49:22 PM): So I'm caughting up
spies8jasmine (2:49:25 PM):
spies8lawrence (2:49:41 PM): My dear, I have only been here for two, and yet I still have reads
spies8lawrence (2:49:58 PM): I should have said read
spies8lawrence (2:50:07 PM): It is not that strong, but at least I have something to speak of
spies8lawrence (2:50:12 PM): Are you sure you do not?
spies8jasmine (2:50:21 PM): I just got back, so i'd like to caught up before I start suspecting people again.
spies8jasmine (2:50:30 PM): However at this moment, Claude looked suspcious to me
spies8jasmine (2:50:34 PM): when i read the exile 5 thread
spies8jasmine (2:50:41 PM): just that he tried to make it so magalie was not exiled.
spies8jasmine (2:51:02 PM): Kind of strongly for it too, so it's a bit scummy
spies8jasmine (2:51:06 PM): but i do need to read more.
spies8lawrence (2:51:17 PM): Tis understandable
spies8lawrence (2:51:34 PM): I am sorry if I seemed overbearing there, I just like to know where everyone stands
spies8lawrence (2:51:56 PM): Based on my interactions thus far, I suspect Broderick
spies8lawrence (2:52:20 PM): I plan to make a grand post about this soon, along with my other observations
spies8jasmine (2:54:09 PM): mmhmm, might wanna
spies8jasmine (2:54:12 PM): he hasn't stuck out to me yet
spies8lawrence (2:54:58 PM): I admit, it is only based off of one conversation, but I have not yet even talked to everyone
spies8lawrence (2:55:13 PM): So it is still early
spies8lawrence (3:00:54 PM): Anyways, I must unfortunately say good bye for now
spies8lawrence (3:01:02 PM): I must prepare for my performance at the retirement home
spies8jasmine (3:01:10 PM): bye Lawrence, and we r half way through this game. it's not very early anymore.
spies8lawrence (3:01:15 PM): I know they will sleep through the show, but it is easy money
spies8lawrence (3:01:20 PM): (Early for me, I just replaced in)
spies8jasmine (3:01:26 PM): OMG U DID?
spies8jasmine (3:01:32 PM): LAWRENCE HAS A REPLACEMENT?
spies8jasmine (3:01:34 PM): omg this is amazing
spies8jasmine (3:01:35 PM):
spies8lawrence (3:01:35 PM): Yes he does
spies8jasmine (3:01:37 PM): but sad
spies8jasmine (3:01:39 PM): i loved the old lawrence
spies8jasmine (3:01:43 PM): he offended me
spies8jasmine (3:01:44 PM): and i yelled at him
spies8jasmine (3:01:46 PM): it was so amazing
spies8jasmine (3:01:47 PM):
spies8jasmine (3:01:52 PM): ANyways, goodbye.
spies8lawrence (3:01:57 PM): Goodbye, Jasmine.
spies8lawrence (3:01:58 PM): LAST

[Lawrence]

spies8

Good evening everyone
spies8gertrude 10:05 pm
Hello, there.
spies8lawrence 10:06 pm
Are we voting on who joins the Senate?
Or are there more superfluous conditions than that?
spies8jenny 10:07 pm
That's pretty much it.
As far as I can tell.
spies8lawrence 10:08 pm
Well, everyone here, please do not vote for me for the Senate
I do not feel as though this soon in the game, I will be educated to be in a position of power
I do not know your feelings towards it, but I would rather it not be me
spies8gertrude 10:09 pm
Duly noted.
spies8lawrence 10:13 pm
Any other major activity besides the demise of poor Cory and the new poll?
Tis a shame, I barely got to speak with him
spies8jenny 10:16 pm
Not a whole lot going on today.
spies8lawrence 10:16 pm
Tis a shame
spies8jenny 10:17 pm
Tends to happen when the most people on at once is 8.
spies8lawrence 10:17 pm
At least when I finally get fully caught up, I believe I will be able to join the fray
spies8gertrude 10:18 pm
Who is the most suspicious person to you, at the point of which you've read up?
spies8lawrence 10:19 pm
Based off of the board, Jasmine, only because she does not seem to contribute as much as others (this is not a very strong read)
However, based off of AIM chats I have had so far, I would say Broderick
spies8gertrude 10:19 pm
And why's that?
spies8lawrence 10:19 pm
I asked him who he thought were Spies
He listed off several different names
I don't remember how many off the top of my head . . . I would guess 7 or 8 or 9?
I can go back and check
spies8gertrude 10:20 pm
Did you record it?
Ok.
spies8lawrence 10:20 pm
Yes I did
spies8gertrude 10:20 pm
That's interesting.
spies8lawrence 10:20 pm
I can go get the names at this present moment
spies8jenny 10:20 pm
GO ahead
Go*
spies8lawrence 10:21 pm
spies8broderick 10:12 pm
Gertrude, Cinnamyn, Jasmine, Chance. But all four together I just don't see as spies
spies8broderick 10:13 pm
Jenny and Stephanie are possiblities, but lower on the list. Steph mostly now because of episode two and being the only unknown voted for
And then later on in the conversation
Owen/Cory/Awohali/Claude - very high chance a spy is amongst them.
I have yet to ask him why on most of these
spies8gertrude 10:22 pm
I don't find that too suspicious, to be honest.
spies8lawrence 10:22 pm
I was surprised to see Owen's name on the list, because of his role in voting Isaac and Magalie
spies8gertrude 10:22 pm
I'm flattered that I'm #1, though.
spies8lawrence 10:22 pm
I asked him why
I do have a question for you -
spies8gertrude 10:22 pm
I did, too. Did you get a response?
Shoot/
spies8lawrence 10:22 pm
If you suspect someone, do you consider them possibly to be a Spy?
spies8lawrence 10:23 pm
(Yes, I know this seems quite obvious)
spies8gertrude 10:23 pm
Um..
Then, sure.
spies8lawrence 10:23 pm
Later on in the conversation, this came up
spies8lawrence 10:25 pm
Wasn't Alexei a Spy?
Isaac a Spy?
Magalie a Spy?
spies8lawrence 10:25 pm
Why on earth would this make Owen a Spy?
He then began a debate about him never saying Owen is a Spy
While he never in fact did . . . I feel that it is the logical progression from suspicion to belief that one is a Spy
And his reaction to this seemed overdefensive, as if he did not want to appear to call Owen a Spy
spies8gertrude 10:26 pm
Hmm.
Ok.
spies8lawrence 10:26 pm
It is not the suspicion of multiple people that forms the basis of my suspicion of him, but the ensuing argument
spies8gertrude 10:27 pm
I guess I can see how that would arouse your suspicion.
spies8lawrence 10:30 pm
Gertrude, who do you think is a Spy?
spies8gertrude 10:31 pm
Most recently? Dane.
spies8lawrence 10:31 pm
And what would lead you to this conclusion?
spies8gertrude 10:32 pm
His behavior at the Exile/Event the other night.
spies8lawrence 10:32 pm
(I apologize if my questions seem antagonistic, I just would like to know where people stand on things)
I didn't quite pay attention to his behavior, but I suppose I could go back and read the chat
What exactly about it was suspicious to you?
spies8gertrude 10:32 pm
He's been known to be quite cavalier about Spy-hunting, yet he *tried to quit* after Allan already had.
It left a very bad taste in my mouth, that wine.
spies8lawrence 10:33 pm
How interesting
And Jenny, where do you stand?
(I know I asked you last night, but are you still sorting things out, or do you have any new thoughts?)
spies8lawrence 10:35 pm
Also, Gertrude, it seems you have a fan somewhere in the Burg
You have been immune from a few Exiles
spies8gertrude 10:35 pm
Indeed.
Third time.
One more time and I'll let them into my pants.
spies8lawrence 10:36 pm
Is that not Claude's territory?
spies8gertrude 10:36 pm
I am no man's territory.
spies8lawrence 10:37 pm
But you transformed Claude into a robot?
spies8gertrude 10:37 pm
I did no such thing.
spies8lawrence 10:37 pm
I see, so it is not a man
spies8gertrude 10:37 pm
Claude has always been a robot.
spies8lawrence 10:37 pm
Crafty
spies8lawrence 10:37 pm
His face does look like it would have a voice belonging to an automated customer service hotline
spies8gertrude 10:38 pm
I don't think the automated voices on the phones know how to moan as Claude does.
spies8lawrence 10:38 pm
Maybe if they are plummeted into a body of water?
spies8gertrude 10:41 pm
It's possible.
But I doubt it.
spies8lawrence 10:41 pm
Someone should investigate this possibility
spies8broderick 10:44 pm
Sorry. Got pulled away to aide in fencing
spies8gertrude 10:44 pm
I always suspected you were adept at thrusting.
spies8broderick 10:46 pm
Not that fencing. But thrusting, definitely
spies8gertrude 10:46 pm
Ah. A construction worker.
spies8broderick 10:47 pm
Not offically. DYI
DIY
spies8gertrude 10:47 pm
Ah.
To refresh your memory.
spies8gertrude 10:48 pm
[20:57] spies8gertrude: Ok.
[20:57] spies8gertrude: So you've explained your suspicions of Cinnamyn.
[20:57] spies8gertrude: How about myself?
spies8broderick 10:55 pm
Well it started with the FoS from the first episode. I believed that your explaiation of holding cards to the chest via survivor to be reasonable. But since then I don't feel like you've really flipped that stance.
I think that your stance on Chance is pretty shaky. It seemed to me that you thought he was citizen at that time because of people picking on him and a lot of people suspecting him. Which didn't seem to have anything to do with his own behavior, but what people were doing to him.
I think the majority of your votes are bandwagony.
spies8gertrude 10:58 pm
But since then I don't feel like you've really flipped that stance.
Really?
Have you bothered to ask about my opinions, metaphorically ask to see my cards?
spies8lawrence 11:00 pm
Anyways, I fear I must retire to my room
These old bones can't take much late night chitchat, and I do have a performance at a child's seventh birthday tomorrow
spies8broderick 11:01 pm
Yes. I believe I asked you about Chance and Kiara at least. In why you thought both citizens. Suspicions, not lately that I recall. A culmination in you being immune and previous behaviors.
spies8lawrence 11:01 pm
I will need all of my energy to be patient with the little brats
Good night

[Lawrence]

SpyChat

spies8mary (10:25:59 AM): Did you make any children disappear this morning, Lawrence?
spies8lawrence (10:26:04 AM): I am surprised that we are the only four
spies8lawrence (10:26:08 AM): Not this morning, my dear
spies8mary (10:26:18 AM): That's too bad.
spies8lawrence (10:26:21 AM): That is tonight at a birthday party for a seven year old
spies8hambone (10:26:31 AM): So Lawrence, nice to meet u bud
spies8hambone (10:26:39 AM): kinda surprised ur alive
spies8mary (10:26:47 AM): If anyone asks, I am talking privately with Lawrence right now.
spies8hambone (10:26:51 AM): i always figured it would be me and the girls alone
spies8mary (10:26:59 AM): And maybe Ham and Cinn you are talking privately?
spies8hambone (10:27:05 AM): im talkin to all of u
spies8hambone (10:27:08 AM): cuz i rly am
spies8lawrence (10:27:08 AM): Given the chance to replace in, I could never pass it up
spies8lawrence (10:27:30 AM): Have you had many meetings such as this?
spies8hambone (10:27:34 AM): never
spies8lawrence (10:27:40 AM): How exciting!
spies8hambone (10:27:42 AM): this is the first as per my suggestion
spies8hambone (10:28:12 AM): lawrence what have u learned so far
spies8hambone (10:28:16 AM): well, thats general
spies8hambone (10:28:18 AM): basically what i mean
spies8hambone (10:28:23 AM): is do u suspect ppl yet
spies8hambone (10:28:28 AM): or are u still feeling around
spies8lawrence (10:28:38 AM): Broderick, based on a chat we had two nights ago
spies8lawrence (10:28:59 AM): And as a lesser read, Jasmine, just because I have yet to speak with her in depth, and her board presence is less than spectacular
spies8mary (10:29:16 AM): Lawrence, Hambone, Dane, Jenny, Kiara, Jasmine, Broderick, Rondak, Chance
spies8mary (10:29:29 AM): We need those people to nominate 3-4 Citizens and 0 Spies.
spies8hambone (10:29:36 AM): mhm
spies8hambone (10:29:43 AM): ill hit Jenny
spies8hambone (10:29:57 AM): and i hit rondak last week
spies8lawrence (10:30:14 AM): Consistant with what I've said so far, I believe my nomination vote will go to Broderick, unless something else comes up
spies8lawrence (10:30:25 AM): I am almost finished with readin the Burg
spies8lawrence (10:30:30 AM): *reading, excuse me
spies8hambone (10:30:42 AM): ok
spies8mary (10:31:14 AM): Broderick (1) - Lawrence
Jenny (1) - Hambone
Cinnamyn (1) - Broderick
Stephanie (1) - Chance
Claude (1) - Jasmine
Undecided: Kiara, Dane, Jenny, Rondak
spies8cinnamyn (10:31:33 AM): y no awohali vote frum chance.?
spies8mary (10:31:40 AM): I will try to get Broderick his vote back.
spies8mary (10:31:54 AM): Chance thinks Stephanie may have killed Cory the Doctor.
spies8mary (10:31:56 AM): We'll see.
spies8hambone (10:32:11 AM): i agree
spies8hambone (10:32:17 AM): her goodbye message was forced
spies8hambone (10:32:18 AM): and weird
spies8hambone (10:32:31 AM): i felt like she was trying to make a case? in a goodbye message
spies8mary (10:32:31 AM): Make sure to say that.
spies8hambone (10:32:32 AM): it was weird
spies8hambone (10:32:42 AM): GOT IT SOLDIER *hut hut hut hut*
spies8lawrence (10:32:48 AM): Who do you think I should vote for for the Senate?
spies8hambone (10:32:55 AM): THAT HAM GUY
spies8mary (10:32:56 AM): That depends.
spies8lawrence (10:32:59 AM): The only person I have a valid Citizen reason to vote for right now is Kiara
spies8lawrence (10:33:11 AM): I put my vote solely on her right now, but I can change
spies8lawrence (10:33:17 AM): I just want to have reasoning behind the vote
spies8hambone (10:33:19 AM): didnt she just roleclaim
spies8mary (10:33:22 AM): We need to bump someone up who is voting a Spy if necessary.
spies8lawrence (10:33:39 AM): Yes, she did, and it is generally believed that it is a Citizen role
spies8mary (10:33:41 AM): If it will keep Cinn from getting nominated, for example, we might bump Broderick to Senate.
spies8hambone (10:33:54 AM): ill vote for him if i gotta
spies8lawrence (10:33:56 AM): I understand . . . but what if the votes get discussed?
spies8mary (10:34:08 AM): Don't vote him if you suspect him
spies8hambone (10:34:08 AM): i think we should all scatter our votes
spies8lawrence (10:34:18 AM): Alright, that is what I was getting hung up on
spies8hambone (10:34:22 AM): I DO SUSPECT BRODY
spies8hambone (10:34:30 AM): i suspect like everyone i can vote for besides myself lol
spies8mary (10:34:39 AM): Ok, I will work on other possible Broderick voters.
spies8mary (10:34:47 AM): Remember, Spies lie about their votes.
spies8hambone (10:34:56 AM): WE DO
spies8hambone (10:34:57 AM): ?
spies8mary (10:34:57 AM): So if Broderick gets 3, it could have been his Spy partners.
spies8hambone (10:35:05 AM): mhm
spies8hambone (10:35:07 AM): true dat
spies8hambone (10:35:07 AM): OR
spies8hambone (10:35:11 AM): that we all voted for him
spies8hambone (10:35:13 AM): to protect someone
spies8mary (10:35:14 AM): You can all deny voting for him.
spies8hambone (10:35:14 AM): lol
spies8lawrence (10:35:42 AM): I am just worried about if someone tries to analyze who voted for whom
spies8mary (10:35:48 AM): They can't.
spies8lawrence (10:35:58 AM): I know it is anonymous, but if they ask around
spies8mary (10:35:58 AM): Obviously, the Spies will lie.
spies8mary (10:36:05 AM): You get up to 4 votes.
spies8lawrence (10:36:10 AM): Ok
spies8lawrence (10:36:16 AM): I apologize
spies8mary (10:36:23 AM): You can say "Kiara, Dane" or whatever and leave out the Broderick.
spies8lawrence (10:36:43 AM): Alright
spies8cinnamyn (10:36:51 AM): so am i talkin' 2 hambone rite now.? lmbo
spies8lawrence (10:36:54 AM): I am sorry, I was not putting this in the right frame of mind for the job
spies8mary (10:37:10 AM): This is the last episode in which Cinnamyn is in big trouble.
spies8mary (10:37:21 AM): With Owen gone and with her making a big case, she should be fine.
spies8lawrence (10:37:49 AM): I added Broderick to my vote
spies8mary (10:37:57 AM): After we Imprison Owen, the Citizen alliance will be Gertrude, Chance, Claude, Kiara, Mary.
spies8cinnamyn (10:38:29 AM): and i think claude iz gettin' tired
spies8mary (10:38:39 AM): Yes.
spies8mary (10:39:00 AM): An Awohali Jenny fight with Chance on the side will be great for us.
spies8lawrence (10:39:15 AM): Indeed
spies8mary (10:39:15 AM): So let's try to make that happen.
spies8mary (10:39:26 AM): Lawrence, those two suspect each other a lot.
spies8mary (10:39:49 AM): Broderick is on.
spies8cinnamyn (10:39:54 AM): so shud i wait on posting on awohali until..nex' episode.? or after nominashinz if im not nommed.? if i am nommed.?
spies8mary (10:39:56 AM): Time to take this to group chat?
spies8mary (10:40:17 AM): I think you should post it later today, Cinnamyn, if you think it's a good case.
spies8cinnamyn (10:40:22 AM): ok
spies8mary (10:40:24 AM): Awohali doesn't get a nomination vote.
spies8mary (10:40:29 AM): You could even post it now.
spies8cinnamyn (10:40:36 AM): im fishin' 4 more chat quotez
spies8cinnamyn (10:40:51 AM): but yea lets take it 2 genral chat
spies8lawrence (10:40:55 AM): Today I plan on reading the Burg and making my "caught up" post
spies8mary (10:41:08 AM): That's good.
spies8lawrence (10:41:09 AM): Stagger when we enter the chat
spies8lawrence (10:41:20 AM): So it is not obvious . . . unless someone invited us all
spies8mary (10:41:23 AM): Let's stay active on the forum today and chat when necessary.
spies8lawrence (10:41:26 AM): Never mind, I apologize
spies8cinnamyn (10:42:16 AM): ok im leavin' so i dont confuse da chatz
spies8lawrence (10:42:27 AM): Quite alright
spies8cinnamyn (10:42:29 AM): i dont wanna b "dat spy"
spies8hambone (10:42:44 AM): ok ill do the same

[Lawrence]

Hambone

spies8lawrence (10:24:49 AM): Hello Hambone, my good sir
spies8lawrence (10:25:00 AM): I believe this is the first time we have spoken since I joined this merry adventure
spies8hambone (10:25:01 AM): Lawrence, nice to finally meet you!
spies8hambone (10:25:10 AM): Never met the old you either
spies8lawrence (10:25:27 AM): (What are the chances of us being the only four online really?) haha
spies8hambone (10:25:38 AM): LOL
spies8hambone (10:25:39 AM): ya
spies8hambone (10:25:45 AM): the 3 of us are in a chatroom now
spies8hambone (10:25:48 AM): we're inviting u
spies8lawrence (10:25:49 AM): Now four
spies8hambone (10:25:50 AM): this has never happened
spies8hambone (10:25:55 AM): DONT INVITE ANYONE lolz
spies8hambone (10:26:04 AM): we'll talk more in a sec
spies8hambone (10:26:13 AM): P.S. if ppl ask, yes we are talking 1 on 1, not in a chatroom
spies8lawrence (10:26:30 AM): Of course, my good sir
spies8hambone (10:50:11 AM): so what do u think of ME
spies8lawrence (10:50:26 AM): Haven't noticed you do anything great or horrible yet
spies8hambone (10:50:57 AM): good
spies8lawrence (10:56:38 AM): Of course, this opinion can and will chance
spies8lawrence (10:56:40 AM): *change
spies8lawrence (10:56:44 AM): Probably in the near future
spies8hambone (10:56:55 AM): uh oh
spies8lawrence (10:57:20 AM): As I reinforce my thoughts on the Burg
spies8hambone went idle at 11:48:11 AM
spies8hambone came back from idle at 11:49:46 AM
spies8hambone signed off at 12:16:51 PM
spies8hambone signed on at 2:24:10 PM
spies8lawrence (2:29:25 PM): Jenny was offering to match whatever Sam gave out if a Spy took the bribe
spies8lawrence (2:29:30 PM): You would have done fairly well
spies8hambone (2:29:34 PM): she told me
spies8hambone (2:29:40 PM): i was tempted to go
spies8hambone (2:29:41 PM): "OK!"
spies8lawrence (3:18:58 PM): So Gertrude just approved of my Dane nomination in chat
spies8lawrence (3:19:08 PM): And told me to watch those who voted for Chance last time around
spies8lawrence (3:19:14 PM): I think this is a good sign, no?
spies8hambone (3:23:46 PM): thats good
spies8lawrence (3:44:13 PM): LAST

[Lawrence]

spies8

spies8mary (10:41:27 AM): Hi.
spies8lawrence (10:41:34 AM): Good morning
spies8broderick (10:41:42 AM): Hi
spies8mary (10:42:06 AM): Where were we last night, Broderick? I'm sorry I fell asleep while talking to you.
spies8mary (10:42:29 AM): Oh, Jenny's Star Wars board.
spies8broderick (10:42:34 AM): I found it. lol
spies8mary (10:42:37 AM): Did you ever find it?
spies8broderick (10:44:37 AM): That board was uh interesting. lol
spies8mary (10:44:38 AM): Are you allowed to vote for yourself for Senate?
spies8broderick (10:44:52 AM): It doesn't say you can't lol.
spies8mary (10:44:56 AM): That's funny.
spies8mary (10:45:01 AM): I guess it's like real life.
spies8hambone (10:46:49 AM): HELLLO
spies8lawrence (10:46:59 AM): Good morning Hambone
spies8mary (10:47:06 AM): Lawrence, have you had enough time to find Spies yet?
spies8broderick (10:47:09 AM): Hi
spies8mary (10:47:19 AM): Hi Boner.
spies8broderick (10:47:27 AM): Ugh. I didn't copy that chat from yesterday morning.
spies8mary (10:47:35 AM): Why did Cory call you Boner?
spies8hambone (10:47:35 AM): this is some BULLLSHIT
spies8hambone (10:47:42 AM): cuz im Hamboner
spies8hambone (10:47:47 AM): ALLAN
spies8hambone (10:47:49 AM): is a fuckin
spies8hambone (10:47:50 AM): PUSSY
spies8mary (10:47:51 AM): Ok, that's creepy.
spies8hambone (10:47:54 AM): i wish i was there
spies8lawrence (10:48:02 AM): I have suspicions, but that is all
spies8lawrence (10:48:08 AM): I plan on finishing the Burg today
spies8mary (10:48:10 AM): Who do you suspect?
spies8lawrence (10:48:23 AM): Broderick and Jasmine
spies8mary (10:48:35 AM): Hmm.
spies8lawrence (10:48:35 AM): The Jasmine read being lesser than the Broderick read
spies8broderick (10:48:46 AM): lol
spies8mary (10:48:49 AM): Why Broderick?
spies8lawrence (10:48:56 AM): A chat we had a few nights ago
spies8broderick (10:49:03 AM): lol
spies8lawrence (10:49:08 AM): A few things rubbed me the wrong way
spies8lawrence (10:49:13 AM): Oh, hello Broderick
spies8lawrence (10:49:17 AM): How are you today?
spies8lawrence (10:49:24 AM): (Let me call the chat up)
spies8broderick (10:49:29 AM): I'm laughing, so awesome
spies8mary (10:49:36 AM): About what?
spies8broderick (10:49:44 AM): It was about me suspecting Owen
spies8lawrence (10:50:13 AM): Not so much that fact . . . I do believe it is a tad deeper than that
spies8hambone (10:50:16 AM): mary!
spies8hambone (10:50:21 AM): u usually ask me questions!
spies8hambone (10:50:24 AM):
spies8hambone (10:50:26 AM): whats goin on here
spies8hambone (10:50:30 AM): i feel betrayed
spies8lawrence (10:50:44 AM): I asked him who he felt were the criminals in our midst
spies8lawrence (10:51:02 AM): He came up with six names
spies8lawrence (10:51:05 AM): spies8broderick 10:12 pm
Gertrude, Cinnamyn, Jasmine, Chance. But all four together I just don't see as spies
spies8broderick 10:13 pm
Jenny and Stephanie are possiblities, but lower on the list. Steph mostly now because of episode two and being the
spies8lawrence (10:51:19 AM): (Which reminds me, I would like to probe you a bit more about them)
spies8lawrence (10:51:28 AM): Later on in the chat
spies8broderick (10:51:31 AM): He implied the statement 'owen is a spy' and I corrected it, and said saying that would be me knowing for certain that he is - which I don't
spies8lawrence (10:51:35 AM): spies8broderick 10:15 pm
Owen/Cory/Awohali/Claude - very high chance a spy is amongst them.
spies8lawrence (10:51:56 AM): There are a lot of suspects there . . . I would like to ask your reasoning behind them
spies8lawrence (10:52:18 AM): At this point, to me, it just seemed like he was listing several names in order to jump on the one which became most popular
spies8broderick (10:52:28 AM): lol
spies8lawrence (10:52:34 AM): But I do understand having multiple suspects, so I would like to hear your reasoning behind them
spies8broderick (10:52:43 AM): Jasmine, Chance, Gert have been in my tops for quite awhile
spies8broderick (10:52:57 AM): I've voted Chance and Jasmine multiple times each
spies8lawrence (10:53:05 AM): Later on, we discussed his suspicion of Owen
spies8lawrence (10:53:12 AM): (Yes, but why?)
spies8lawrence (10:53:17 AM): I said this:
spies8broderick (10:53:22 AM): I've been suspecting Cinnamyn since about middle of the last episode. I don't see many others.
spies8lawrence (10:53:25 AM): spies8lawrence 10:25 pm
Wasn't Alexei a Spy?
Isaac a Spy?
Magalie a Spy?
spies8lawrence 10:25 pm
Why on earth would this make Owen a Spy?
spies8broderick (10:53:28 AM): Stephanie I suspected a lot during Ep 3
spies8lawrence (10:53:56 AM): He later answered the question . . . but after a debate that boils down to, in my opinion, semantics
spies8lawrence (10:54:23 AM): He objected to the way I phrased the question, instead of the actual answer to the question
spies8broderick (10:54:35 AM): I answered your question
spies8lawrence (10:54:37 AM): Almost as if he was being very careful not to appear to call someone out as a Spy
spies8lawrence (10:54:41 AM): Yes, you did
spies8lawrence (10:54:59 AM): However, before you did that, we had a minor disagreementover how I asked the question
spies8broderick (10:54:59 AM): I thought one of him and Tina were a possible spy since ep 3.
spies8lawrence (10:55:04 AM): This seemed . . . bizarre, to me
spies8broderick (10:55:16 AM): How does that make me suspect?
spies8broderick (10:55:39 AM): Espeially considering I just refuted your point that 'it just seemed like he was listing several names in order to jump on the one which became most popular'
spies8lawrence (10:55:50 AM): Two things here - Each time I've asked you "why?," you have responded with how long you have suspected them
spies8broderick (10:56:01 AM): Read the Burg. All posted
spies8lawrence (10:56:01 AM): With only a few exceptions, I have heard no reasoning yet
spies8mary (10:56:09 AM): Your list was 10 long, correct?
spies8broderick (10:56:47 AM): It isn't a list upon each person as separate
spies8broderick (10:56:56 AM): Deals with pairings and 'typecasts' as well
spies8mary (10:57:40 AM): Cinnamyn, Jasmine, Chance, Gert, Stephanie, Jenny, Owen, Cory, Claude, Awohali.
spies8mary (10:57:42 AM): Right.
spies8lawrence (10:57:54 AM): It seems . . . dubious, to me, to scumhunt based upon Spy molds
spies8mary (10:57:54 AM): Which is your #1 right now?
spies8mary (10:57:56 AM): Cinnamyn?
spies8broderick (10:57:58 AM): Not all are separate, so no
spies8broderick (10:58:07 AM): I'm not scum hunting based on spy molds Lawrence
spies8lawrence (10:58:22 AM): Deals with pairings and 'typecasts' as well
spies8broderick (10:58:27 AM): Like I said to you in that chat, I keep it in the back of my mind
spies8broderick (10:58:30 AM): That list right there
spies8lawrence (10:58:41 AM): Yet you haven't told me any reasoning behind why these people are Spies
spies8lawrence (10:58:50 AM): Except for at the end of the chat, Owen
spies8broderick (10:58:50 AM): I'm trying to type it out
spies8broderick (10:58:57 AM): But you keep misrepresenting what I said
spies8mary (10:59:11 AM): Last night I told Broderick my spy list.
spies8lawrence (10:59:20 AM): If I am doing so, it is unintentional
spies8mary (10:59:23 AM): And I said "But I think it's too many lurkers"
spies8mary (10:59:49 AM): And "one of the more Cit people like Awohali, Gertrude, Claude etc. probably replaces a lurker in my list".
spies8mary (11:00:00 AM): I don't see what's wrong with that way of thinking.
spies8lawrence (11:00:27 AM): I believe it needs to be supported with reasoning
spies8broderick (11:00:31 AM): Chance, lot of drama with him about misrepping what people said early in the game. he doesn't spy hunt, he is more playing the social fluff game. Overly defensive when questioned, yet when he is on you - no problem with attacking
spies8broderick (11:00:35 AM): I gave you reason Lawrence
spies8lawrence (11:00:46 AM): For so far, Chance and Owen
spies8lawrence (11:00:53 AM): Two out of ten.
spies8mary (11:00:58 AM): He's posted long cases in the Burg.
spies8broderick (11:01:05 AM): Eh, you are being ridiculous
spies8mary (11:01:07 AM): On Jasmine, Gertrude, Jenny I think.
spies8broderick (11:01:08 AM): Catch up on the Burg rofl
spies8mary (11:01:18 AM): He gave me his Cinnamyn case last night.
spies8hambone (11:01:21 AM): yawwwwwwwn
spies8broderick (11:01:22 AM): It was Jasmine, Gert, Steph, Tina, Lilith
spies8broderick (11:01:33 AM): With comments about every other player as well
spies8mary (11:01:53 AM): Lawrence, what's your case on Jasmine?
spies8broderick (11:02:01 AM): There are two different types of reason Lawrence. The ones which back up the 'type cast' thought and those for which why I suspect them. As in a case
spies8mary (11:02:09 AM): Hambone, who are you suspecting right now?
spies8hambone (11:02:25 AM): jennny@
spies8lawrence (11:02:30 AM): Mary - The Jasmine case is not substantial, but merely based on the lack of her presence in the Burg
spies8lawrence (11:02:35 AM): She is one to watch, for me
spies8hambone (11:02:35 AM): mainly
spies8mary (11:02:43 AM): Do you still suspect Rondak and Gert, boner?
spies8hambone (11:02:43 AM): but other ppl too
spies8hambone (11:02:48 AM): YUP!
spies8broderick (11:02:52 AM): For the record again. I don't spy hunt based on molds, I keep the thoughts in the back of my head, because experience shows that some things like that are true.
spies8mary (11:02:53 AM): Why did you switch back to Jenny?
spies8hambone (11:03:00 AM): i didnt bus her for a week
spies8hambone (11:03:06 AM): not bus
spies8mary (11:03:07 AM): Why?
spies8hambone (11:03:08 AM): i mean
spies8hambone (11:03:10 AM): whats the word
spies8lawrence (11:03:12 AM): I understand your point Broderick - It is definitely possible
spies8mary (11:03:17 AM): tunnel?
spies8hambone (11:03:20 AM): yea!
spies8broderick (11:03:26 AM): Look at spies hsitory
spies8broderick (11:03:28 AM): Look at scum history
spies8hambone (11:03:28 AM): i didnt tunnel her for aweek
spies8lawrence (11:03:28 AM): For me to have missed something while reading, there are quite a lot of threads
spies8mary (11:03:35 AM): So you changed your vote because people told you to?
spies8broderick (11:03:35 AM): It IS possible, and true lol
spies8hambone (11:03:37 AM): so now im allowed to go back at her
spies8lawrence (11:03:54 AM): And as I said above, it was not the use of that logic that was suspicious to me, it was the use of solely that logic
spies8broderick (11:04:24 AM): ugh.
spies8hambone (11:04:40 AM): my critiques
spies8hambone (11:04:49 AM): said that i needed to go after other ppl and not just jenny
spies8hambone (11:04:55 AM): so i wanted ppl off my ass
spies8mary (11:04:58 AM): Ok.
spies8hambone (11:05:01 AM): so i made a new case and stuck to it
spies8hambone (11:05:35 AM): im so pissed off i missed the exile
spies8hambone (11:06:40 AM): i wouldnt be here if i was there
spies8broderick (11:06:42 AM): Was it yesterday morniing that you told me about cinnamyn's suspects from the night of exile, Mary?
spies8mary (11:06:53 AM): Kiara, Zed, Jenny?
spies8mary (11:07:07 AM): Or the ones from episode 5?
spies8mary (11:07:24 AM): When she asked Claude the 8 tough questions and asked Chance nothing?
spies8broderick (11:07:31 AM): I thought it was from the night of exile for episode 6. I think Kiara, Zed, JEnny.
spies8mary (11:07:34 AM): Yes.
spies8broderick (11:07:54 AM): It must've been Thursday morning. I thought I logged the chat, I had to be on meebo that day - but I can't find it. lol
spies8mary (11:08:17 AM): We might have been alone in group chat.
spies8mary (11:08:23 AM): But then, you'd probably be missing an eye.
spies8broderick (11:08:54 AM): Nah, it was in the morning. I think Lawrence was there lol
spies8mary (11:09:03 AM): Lawrence, have you read Jasmine's posts?
spies8lawrence (11:09:18 AM): I haven't searched for solely her posts
spies8lawrence (11:09:34 AM): But the only thing I remember seeing from her to look good was the Isaac thread
spies8mary (11:09:52 AM): That's the main reason I think she is a Citizen.
spies8lawrence (11:09:53 AM): Admittedly, that looks good, but it could have been distancing
spies8lawrence (11:10:01 AM): She hasn't made waves any other time
spies8mary (11:10:09 AM): You'll have to explain what makes it look like distancing.
spies8lawrence (11:10:42 AM): Mainly the fact that, at least from what I've seen, she's been a fairly quiet player
spies8lawrence (11:10:51 AM): The one time she makes a stance, it's on a Spy
spies8lawrence (11:10:59 AM): I have been taking the quantity over quality approach
spies8lawrence (11:11:10 AM): With my reading . . . I will be sure to go back and read that thread closer
spies8hambone (11:13:57 AM): i havent watched the video thing yet
spies8hambone (11:14:00 AM): of the exile
spies8hambone (11:14:05 AM): is it important to see
spies8lawrence (11:14:31 AM): Not really
spies8hambone (11:15:14 AM): can someone explain
spies8lawrence (11:15:15 AM): As long as you know the basic details - Zedekiah Citizen, Allan bribed Citizen, one Citizen will never earn their vote back, Awohali on Senate
spies8hambone (11:15:17 AM): the cash thing that allan did
spies8lawrence (11:15:35 AM): Our honorable judge dropped money into a tray while watching the chat room
spies8hambone (11:15:36 AM): one citizen wont earn their vote back? wtf does that mean
spies8lawrence (11:15:42 AM): He did this fairly slowly
spies8lawrence (11:15:49 AM): until someone said I QUIT
spies8lawrence (11:15:55 AM): at that point, he stopped adding money
spies8hambone (11:15:56 AM): what if no one did
spies8lawrence (11:16:00 AM): And someone quit
spies8lawrence (11:16:05 AM): Then I guess no one would have quit
spies8lawrence (11:16:31 AM): There will be opportunity for all but one player to join the Senate
spies8hambone (11:16:32 AM): is anyone allowed to take the bribe now
spies8hambone (11:16:36 AM): or is it a 1 time offer
spies8lawrence (11:16:47 AM): When there is just one voteless Citizen, there will be no more nominations
spies8lawrence (11:16:52 AM): And they will never get to vote
spies8hambone (11:16:53 AM): oh
spies8lawrence (11:16:56 AM): One time offer
spies8hambone (11:16:56 AM): WHAT
spies8hambone (11:16:59 AM): huh
spies8hambone (11:17:02 AM): what
spies8hambone (11:17:10 AM): never get to vote1?
spies8lawrence (11:17:21 AM): Yes, I do believe that is what I said
spies8hambone (11:17:24 AM): so theyll remain in the game with no vote>
spies8lawrence (11:17:45 AM): Generally what is meant by "one Citizen will never get their vote."
spies8hambone (11:17:54 AM): thats SHIT
spies8hambone (11:19:08 AM): i want the bribe
spies8broderick (11:19:27 AM): It means 'one player of the burg' not 'one citizen'
spies8broderick (11:19:28 AM): lol
spies8hambone (11:19:50 AM): lol
spies8broderick (11:20:20 AM): That would be unfair if a spy couldn't be the one without a vote for ever lol
spies8broderick (11:20:35 AM): spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=burg&thread=891&page=1
spies8broderick (11:20:41 AM): That is the thread from ep 4.
spies8lawrence (11:21:25 AM): The opposite side of the voteless player will gain a huge advantage
spies8broderick (11:22:34 AM): ugh i shouldn't of signed on. totally wasted the 45 minutes i had to post my stuff on cinnamyn
spies8mary (11:25:13 AM): Hambone, what is your case on Gertrude?
spies8hambone (11:25:25 AM): its not rly a case so much as its a point
spies8hambone (11:26:11 AM): she didnt vote for isaac that one week
spies8hambone (11:26:17 AM): even though he was her main suspect
spies8hambone (11:26:19 AM): BUT
spies8hambone (11:26:22 AM): in retrospect
spies8hambone (11:26:28 AM): i guess this can now be said about myself!
spies8hambone (11:26:33 AM): i didnt vote for jenny
spies8hambone (11:26:38 AM): and she was my main suspect
spies8mary (11:26:56 AM): That was your entire reason for voting Gertrude?
spies8hambone (11:27:00 AM): however its worse for gert because we 100% know isaac was a spy, so it makes her look bad
spies8hambone (11:27:10 AM): um no
spies8hambone (11:27:17 AM): allan used claudes role on me
spies8hambone (11:27:22 AM): thats why i voted for her
spies8mary (11:27:33 AM): Oh.
spies8hambone (11:27:37 AM): lol
spies8mary (11:28:26 AM): What do you think of Cinnamyn?
spies8hambone (11:28:33 AM): me?
spies8mary (11:28:37 AM): Yes.
spies8hambone (11:28:53 AM): i dont rly suspect her
spies8hambone (11:28:58 AM): she seems like she does work for us
spies8hambone (11:29:16 AM): but im not rly looking into her much
spies8hambone (11:29:36 AM): because jenny is a spy
spies8hambone (11:30:00 AM): i think cinamon suspects jenny too
spies8hambone (11:30:03 AM): so thats a plus
spies8stephanie (11:31:44 AM): hi
spies8mary (11:31:50 AM): Hi.
spies8lawrence (11:31:59 AM): Good morning Stephanie
spies8broderick (11:32:10 AM): Hi Stephanie
spies8hambone (11:32:12 AM): hello wideface
spies8stephanie (11:32:35 AM): long chin, you're back!
spies8hambone (11:32:42 AM): yes i am
spies8stephanie (11:33:18 AM): so nominations are due tomorrow?
spies8stephanie (11:33:53 AM): does anyone know who they are voting yet?
spies8hambone (11:34:08 AM): im voting for jenny
spies8stephanie (11:34:26 AM): oh it's nice to know things are back to normal
spies8lawrence (11:34:59 AM): As I said earlier, it was Broderick earlier, now I am not so sure
spies8lawrence (11:35:04 AM): I will need to read his suspicions in the Burg
spies8stephanie (11:35:42 AM): ham, how do you reconcile larry being alive with jenny being a spy?
spies8hambone (11:36:46 AM): huh
spies8hambone (11:37:20 AM): ur talkin jibberish steph
spies8broderick (11:38:06 AM): Noms are due today
spies8jenny (11:39:20 AM): Hi there!
spies8broderick (11:39:38 AM): Hi Jenny
spies8mary (11:39:41 AM): Hi.
spies8lawrence (11:39:47 AM): Good morning my dear Jenny
spies8stephanie (11:40:39 AM): hi jenny
spies8stephanie (11:41:15 AM): noms are due today?!
spies8broderick (11:41:24 AM): Yeah
spies8jenny (11:41:27 AM): Yeah, crazy isn't it?
spies8broderick (11:41:29 AM): About ten hours from now
spies8broderick (11:41:35 AM): Sam said the episodes were going to get shorter
spies8lawrence (11:41:49 AM): It is going to be difficult for me to make an informed decision
spies8stephanie (11:41:54 AM): that's really shorter!
spies8broderick (11:41:55 AM): So it was kinda freaky that not many people were on last night lol
spies8lawrence (11:41:58 AM): This should be interesting
spies8mary (11:46:45 AM): Jenny, who do you want exiled?
spies8hambone (11:50:08 AM): hellllo
spies8broderick (11:50:59 AM): Hambone-r
spies8hambone (11:51:10 AM): YESSS
spies8lawrence (11:51:27 AM): Why is everyone so intent on associating this wrestler with an erect penis?
spies8hambone (11:51:39 AM): im not a wrestler
spies8mary (11:51:43 AM): It was Cory's thing.
spies8hambone (11:51:57 AM): im an untrained professional stunt double
spies8broderick (11:51:59 AM): It was
spies8broderick (11:52:04 AM): lol you are
spies8lawrence (11:52:11 AM): I apologize, your photo looks like a wrestler
spies8broderick (11:52:15 AM): K. gott go do lunch, should be back in a couple hours
spies8hambone (11:52:16 AM): its not
spies8broderick (11:52:17 AM): It is
spies8broderick (11:52:20 AM): lol
spies8hambone (11:52:21 AM): *hugs brody*
spies8hambone (11:52:22 AM): bye
spies8broderick (11:52:30 AM): lol " "
spies8hambone (11:52:34 AM):
spies8stephanie (11:54:19 AM): what about dane quitting after allan quit?
spies8stephanie (11:54:25 AM): that was odd wasn't it?
spies8lawrence (11:55:50 AM): That is interesting
spies8lawrence (11:55:52 AM): Does anyone know
spies8lawrence (11:56:01 AM): Why Claude chose to limit Owen's votes last round?
spies8hambone (11:56:06 AM): DANE QUIT?
spies8jenny (11:56:16 AM): He suspected Owen the most out of everyone in the senate.
spies8jenny (11:56:19 AM): And no Hammy.
spies8hambone (11:56:34 AM): huh
spies8hambone (11:56:38 AM): wtf is goin on
spies8jenny (11:56:40 AM): SHortly after Al did his "i quit" message, Dane did the same in bigger text.
spies8hambone (11:56:50 AM): but it was a joke?
spies8jenny (11:56:53 AM): Sam took Al's since it was first.
spies8stephanie (11:58:09 AM): they were really close together
spies8jenny (11:58:14 AM): It's in the exile transcript.
spies8jenny (11:58:31 AM): Start around 10:52.
spies8mary (11:58:41 AM): Jenny, who would you like to see exiled?
spies8jenny (11:58:42 AM): Doesn't really show the font size though.
spies8lawrence (11:58:43 AM): Question: Did Claude choose who Owen was limited to vote for?
spies8jenny (11:58:51 AM): Yes.
spies8stephanie (11:58:53 AM): yes
spies8lawrence (11:58:57 AM): I would think so, but just making sure
spies8jenny (11:59:52 AM): Mary: If I had to pick right this second I think I'd go with Hali, but I rather wish we had more then a day after Imprisonment to figure it out.
spies8mary (12:00:13 PM): Why Awohali?
spies8jenny (12:00:41 PM): Here, I was just talking about it with someone else, let me just grab that.
spies8jenny (12:00:56 PM): Well a lot of it has to do with how in recent episodes, he seems to have started taking lessons from Ricky and Claude. Find a player and then make it fit so that they're a spy, instead of the other way around.

Pushing for Lucky and myself over Maggie the round she was knocked out doesn't help matters either.
spies8lawrence (12:02:44 PM): Why were people suspicious of Zedekiah and Kiara?
spies8lawrence (12:03:40 PM): There's a big case on Chance posted, but did I miss posts on Zedekiah and Kiara?
spies8jenny (12:03:58 PM): That should be in the chat logs really.
spies8jenny (12:04:05 PM): If you're looking for a post on it.
spies8stephanie (12:12:25 PM): bbl
spies8hambone (12:16:47 PM): bbl
spies8lawrence (12:22:21 PM): It strikes me as odd
spies8lawrence (12:22:42 PM): That Zedekiah was a suspect episode one, and then disappeared from votes until episode 6 when he was Exiled
spies8dane (12:23:14 PM): a lot of people were initially "it's alexei OR zedekiah" during episode
spies8dane (12:23:15 PM): 1
spies8dane (12:23:22 PM): then in episode 2
spies8dane (12:23:28 PM): he finally makes his first real post
spies8dane (12:23:37 PM): so a lot of people left him alone for a while
spies8dane (12:24:00 PM): but then he went back to not contributing in the burg in later episodes
spies8dane (12:24:11 PM): which was one of the problems with him episode 1
spies8lawrence (12:24:20 PM): Was he active on AIM?
spies8dane (12:24:26 PM): not when I was on
spies8dane (12:24:47 PM): I'd ask broderick, he seemed to be the opposite schedule of me
spies8dane (12:25:06 PM): or hambone
spies8dane (12:25:18 PM): hey mary, are you around?
spies8lawrence (12:28:11 PM): Jenny are you around? I have a question for you
spies8jenny (12:28:21 PM): Yep, I'm hereish.
spies8lawrence (12:28:42 PM): The first night I was here you told me that Zedekiah was one of your main suspects
spies8lawrence (12:28:51 PM): Why did you nominate Kiara over him last round?
spies8jenny (12:28:59 PM): Because Zeddy was already going to be nominated.
spies8lawrence (12:29:35 PM): Were there reasons you suspected Kiara?
spies8dane (12:30:15 PM): and how do you feel on her role claim and her not mentioning it before now?
spies8lawrence (12:32:36 PM): I don't see any reasons in the nomination thread
spies8jenny (12:33:35 PM): I was actually talking about this role stuff with someone else earlier. I was looking at the last game since we had the same number of spies as then, nearly the same number of players (32 then 30 now) and a third party role in both. Made sense to compare the number of roles in each.

Last time there were 3 spy roles, and 6 cit roles along with a third party.

This time we've found out about 3 spy roles (Lexi, Isaac, Spy Messenger), a third party role, and then 6 other roles. (Doctor, Al, Savanny, Claude, Kitty, and Exile Blocker)

So far it seems to fit the bill there. Could be slightly different, but since I'd think 4 out of 7 spies having roles is pushing it anyways, for the time being I'm thinking Claude, Kitty, and mysterious exile blocker person are cits for now.
spies8dane (12:34:27 PM): I have a gut feeling that one of the cit role claims is really a spy role.
spies8dane (12:34:52 PM): unfortunately, up till now I kinda thought it was allan
spies8lawrence (12:35:48 PM): To me, I don't feel as if the messenger is that powerful of a role
spies8lawrence (12:36:05 PM): I could see Sam wifoming it up with a fourth Spy role, but I have no idea who/what that would entail
spies8dane (12:36:43 PM): technically weren't there 4 spy roles in 7, with andreas being the false giftgiver?
spies8dane (12:36:54 PM): or was that included?
spies8lawrence (12:37:19 PM): Cover Up, Jailer, Gift Giver . . . are there any others?
spies8jenny (12:37:28 PM): Not that I saw.
spies8jenny (12:37:35 PM): Unless you're counting the 3rd party role.
spies8dane (12:37:42 PM): nah
spies8dane (12:37:45 PM): i guess it was 3
spies8jenny (12:37:49 PM): And Lawry, Savanny was a messenger as well.
spies8lawrence (12:38:10 PM): Ah, two of them
spies8jenny (12:38:16 PM): The other messenger we found out about after she died, when they tried to tell Al that they were Savanny talking from the dead.
spies8lawrence (12:38:25 PM): But anyways Jenny, I don't believe you have answered my question
spies8jenny (12:38:27 PM): Al used the copycat power to send it to Owen, confirming the role.
spies8lawrence (12:38:50 PM): Why did you nominate Kiara? Were you suspicious of her, or was it just to play into Claude's role on Owen?
spies8jenny (12:41:45 PM): About Kitty? Part of it was simply I had less of a cit read on her then Lucky, and Zeddy was already going up.

To me, she didn't seem like she was actually around ever since a few days after replacing the original Kitty. I'd constantly see her on AIM, with her as away and it saying she'd been going for 12+ hours. That plus not really seeing her in the burg, I had a neutral read on her.

Personally, I wanted to see Zeddy get picked in the end, shame I was wrong with him, but since I had no idea what the senate was going to be doing between Zeddy and Lucky, I was just fine with putting up someone I had no real read on. And hey, we found stuff out because of it that makes me more sure that she's a cit, and also helps with figuring out where we're at with roles, so that's a plus to me.
spies8lawrence (12:46:53 PM): Was there (or is there) anyone you are/were suspicious of besides Zedekiah and Kiara?
spies8jenny (12:48:50 PM): Hali I've been looking at, Claude I was more worried about until after exile's events came out, Mary and Spice I've been looking into simply because I don't think the Maggie pick to get her vote makes much sense unless there was another spy in there already, and I would pick it to be one of them over Owen or Cory (Well just Owen now anyways.)
spies8lawrence (12:50:16 PM): Fair enough
spies8lawrence (12:50:49 PM): Jenny, I do have another question for you: Do you read over the group chats much? I know you archive them for us, which is great, but how much attention do you pay to them?
spies8jenny (12:54:51 PM): The posts themselves I don't usually read over unless I wasn't around for it myself, since I will have been reading it while I was in the room. If new ones come up that someone else provides, then I make sure tor ead over them. Also use them for if I need to look something up about an event.
spies8lawrence (12:55:57 PM): There's something I noticed
spies8lawrence (12:56:04 PM): In the group chats from episode 5
spies8lawrence (12:56:17 PM): It just strikes me as odd that so many people missed it
spies8lawrence (12:57:06 PM): [22:07] spies8tina: Zek (switched off Alexei) - Sav - Themba - Isaac.
[22:08] spies8magalie: hummm.... so you got one spy
[22:08] spies8magalie: lucky you
[22:08] spies8magalie: I dont think that makes it
[22:08] spies8magalie: great
[22:08] spies8tina: It is not great.
[22:08] spies8magalie: YOu sent three other cits home
spies8lawrence (12:57:41 PM): It seems to me, here, that Magalie confirmed Zedekiah as a Citizen
spies8jenny (12:58:46 PM): Huh. That would have been a nice catch if we remembered that earlier. :\
spies8lawrence (12:59:16 PM): The Zedekiah lynch smells bad to me
spies8dane (12:59:32 PM): the zedekiah lynch wasn't supposed to happen
spies8dane (12:59:44 PM): the only reason it did was because kiara role claimed last minute, right?
spies8lawrence (1:00:11 PM): Hmm
spies8jenny (1:00:17 PM): That's the impression I got. They were going to vote Kitty, until she claimed to the senate soon before the exile, which is why the votes went all over the place in the end.
spies8lawrence (1:02:35 PM): Even before that, however, the nominations seem weird
spies8lawrence (1:03:12 PM): Due to Claude's role, various folks seemed like they were trying to limit their votes to Chance, Kiara, or Zedekiah
spies8lawrence (1:04:09 PM): Wait a minute
spies8lawrence (1:04:13 PM): Dane
spies8lawrence (1:04:25 PM): You just said "the Zedekiah lynch wasn't supposed to happen"
spies8lawrence (1:04:35 PM): If not, why did you nominate Zedekiah?
spies8dane (1:04:47 PM): I'm talking about the votes right before exile happened
spies8dane (1:05:02 PM): there were surprise vote changes
spies8dane (1:05:31 PM): as far as everyone knew, kiara was going to be exiled
spies8lawrence (1:05:33 PM): So who was supposed to be Exiled, then?
spies8lawrence (1:05:38 PM): Kiara?
spies8lawrence (1:05:47 PM): Did you agree with this Exile?
spies8dane (1:06:05 PM): I didn't disagree with it, but I preferred for zedekiah to go over her
spies8lawrence (1:06:34 PM): But the Zedekiah lynch wasn't supposed to happen?
spies8dane (1:06:51 PM): I already explained that
spies8dane (1:07:07 PM): I nominated zedekiah because I wanted him to be voted
spies8lawrence (1:07:25 PM): The way you said that seems like you are trying to call the Zedekiah Exile a mistake, at least to me
spies8dane (1:07:30 PM): then the senate for the most part informed us of who they were voting
spies8dane (1:07:52 PM): then they switched at the last second
spies8dane (1:07:58 PM): that's a pretty loose interpretation
spies8lawrence (1:08:43 PM): To me, there is a difference between something being "unexpected" and "not supposed to happen.
spies8dane (1:09:25 PM): that's nice. It's still a pretty loose interpretation, especially given context
spies8lawrence (1:13:19 PM): I will return to the computer shortly, phone call.
spies8lawrence (1:13:56 PM): Never mind, it was simply a wrong number
spies8mary (1:14:12 PM): Hi.
spies8mary (1:14:29 PM): I'm almost done cleaning up all this blood. Just a moment.
spies8jenny (1:14:47 PM): I'll be back in a few, need to run an errand quick.
spies8lawrence (1:15:06 PM): See you later, dear Jenny
spies8lawrence (1:15:24 PM): Dane - who do you think you will nominate this round?
spies8dane (1:15:52 PM): haven't decided yet
spies8dane (1:15:59 PM): probably not stephanie though
spies8lawrence (1:16:27 PM): May I ask why?
spies8dane (1:17:13 PM): no new evidence against her, everyone continues to have "massive cit reads" off her, and I'm starting to doubt my suspicion of her myself
spies8lawrence (1:18:52 PM): Other people have "massive cit reads," so you are beginning to think she is not a citizen to?
spies8dane (1:19:13 PM): what?
spies8lawrence (1:19:41 PM): Sorry, the word not should not have been in there
spies8dane (1:20:37 PM): alright, well don't put words in my mouth. I said what I meant: I have suspicions of her, but I'm starting to doubt them
spies8lawrence (1:20:59 PM): I am not meaning to put words into your mouth, but you did say this:
spies8lawrence (1:21:15 PM): no new evidence against her, everyone continues to have "massive cit reads" off her, and I'm starting to doubt my suspicion of her myself
spies8dane (1:21:33 PM): what does that have to do with whether I think she is a spy or not?
spies8lawrence (1:21:37 PM): Maybe I am deriving the wrong meaning from this statement?
spies8dane (1:21:42 PM): that has to do with whether the senate would vote her out
spies8dane (1:21:49 PM): since I can only nominate
spies8lawrence (1:21:53 PM): Ah!
spies8lawrence (1:21:59 PM): I see what you mean
spies8lawrence (1:22:01 PM): My apologies
spies8dane (1:22:09 PM): mhmm
spies8mary (1:29:33 PM): Hi.
spies8lawrence (1:29:48 PM): Good afternoon, Mary
spies8mary (1:32:39 PM): Do you have opinions of more people besides Jasmine and Broderick?
spies8lawrence (1:33:40 PM): Dane's "Zedekiah exile shouldn't have happened" left a bad taste in my mouth, but I understand his argument against it
spies8lawrence (1:35:19 PM): Interesting
spies8dane (1:35:47 PM): -_-
spies8lawrence (1:35:55 PM): Now that I have taken a gander at the voting history . . . he nominated Rondak the episode that Magalie went
spies8lawrence (1:36:00 PM): Why did you do that, Dane?
spies8dane (1:36:11 PM): because I'd never gotten to talk to magalie
spies8dane (1:36:20 PM): I'd only heard hearsay
spies8dane (1:36:34 PM): that she was lurkerish and kinda crazy
spies8lawrence (1:36:42 PM): Did you analyze her activity in the Burg?
spies8dane (1:36:46 PM): rondak I KNEW was lurkerish and hadn't ever really helped citizens
spies8dane (1:36:49 PM): what activity, lol
spies8lawrence (1:36:59 PM): I remember seeing a few Magalie posts
spies8dane (1:37:14 PM): she had like one episode she was active apparently, but that's it
spies8lawrence (1:37:46 PM): So you voted a lurker that you had talked to over one that you hadn't?
spies8lawrence (1:38:02 PM): Well, lurkerish player
spies8dane (1:38:10 PM): correct
spies8lawrence (1:38:12 PM): In your own words
spies8lawrence (1:38:43 PM): It seems, at least to me, that one would be more prone to vote the one they hadn't spoken to, because they would seem to be more inactive
spies8mary (1:38:49 PM): Lawrence, have you formed an opinion of Rondak yet?
spies8lawrence (1:39:12 PM): Ironically enough, I have yet to speak to him, and I have not seen much from him in the Burg
spies8mary (1:39:46 PM): What do you think of what he's posted?
spies8dane (1:39:49 PM): lawrence, i disagree with that
spies8lawrence (1:40:03 PM): It seems strange to me, Dane, that your vote for fairly generic reasons offered another alternative to a Magalie Exile
spies8dane (1:40:04 PM): better to vote someone you've been able to form an opinion of than a complete unkonwn
spies8mary (1:40:25 PM): Wait, was this the Themba vs. Magalie decision?
spies8dane (1:40:25 PM): fairly generic reasons?
spies8dane (1:40:34 PM): you mean NON random reasons?
spies8lawrence (1:40:35 PM): No, this is Exile #4
spies8mary (1:40:40 PM): Ok.
spies8lawrence (1:41:01 PM): The reasons were non-random . . . but that's about it, I believe
spies8dane (1:41:10 PM): you seem to miss the point
spies8dane (1:41:18 PM): a vote for good reason is not a scummy vote
spies8lawrence (1:41:25 PM): I understand the logic, but the fact that Rondak then became an alternative nomination to Magalie is suspicious
spies8dane (1:41:29 PM): being generic means its LOGICAL
spies8lawrence (1:41:31 PM): Magalie was, after all, a Spy
spies8dane (1:41:35 PM): true enough
spies8mary (1:41:40 PM): Dane voted Stephanie at that nomination, didn't he?
spies8dane (1:41:43 PM): and the way you know rondak isn't a spy?
spies8lawrence (1:41:55 PM): I do not know this
spies8lawrence (1:42:08 PM): If he were to be a Spy, this point would be moot
spies8dane (1:42:33 PM): you, gertrude, claude, and I think broderik all seem to like making indirect accusations about my citizenhood
spies8mary (1:42:34 PM): Are you debating over a guy you know nothing about?
spies8dane (1:42:41 PM): its getting pretty fucking annoying
spies8dane (1:42:51 PM): i'll brb
spies8lawrence (1:43:00 PM): The point is not about Rondak here, it is about Dane
spies8mary (1:43:14 PM): It's about his vote for Rondak, isn't it?
spies8lawrence (1:43:20 PM): Yes
spies8lawrence (1:43:35 PM): Specifically, how this put Rondak as a nomination alongside Magalie
spies8mary (1:43:49 PM): Magalie was a tricky situation.
spies8lawrence (1:44:04 PM): How so, if I may inquire?
spies8mary (1:44:18 PM): She blatantly lied about her suspicions.
spies8mary (1:45:02 PM): But she was such a terrible player that people weren't sure if that was indicative of alignment.
spies8mary (1:45:46 PM): I think you'd have to look very carefully at people's thought processes for each vote back then before drawing conclusions about protecting Magalie.
spies8mary (1:47:36 PM): So anyhow, is this episode 4 or 5 we're discussing?
spies8lawrence (1:47:52 PM): Oh my bad
spies8lawrence (1:47:55 PM): Episode 5
spies8mary (1:48:01 PM): Because Dane claimed to have nominated Stephanie at 4.
spies8lawrence (1:48:23 PM): Episode 5 . . . the post for episode was so short that when I was scrolling down, I guess I missed it.
spies8lawrence (1:48:33 PM): After all, due to the role abililty, there was no vote count then.
spies8lawrence (1:48:36 PM): *episode 4
spies8mary (1:49:03 PM): Dane's vote for Rondak took it to 3-3-2. Chance, you and Rondak.
spies8lawrence (1:49:45 PM): The vote count says that it ended up 4-4-2
spies8mary (1:49:50 PM): Jenny and Magalie had one each.
spies8lawrence (1:49:56 PM): Magalie, Chance, Rondak
spies8lawrence (1:50:19 PM): What are you speaking of?
spies8mary (1:51:34 PM): I'm following the way the votes moved over the last day.
spies8mary (1:51:53 PM): To see who might have been protecting who.
spies8lawrence (1:51:59 PM): Ah
spies8mary (1:52:10 PM): Chance switched from Rondak to Magalie.
spies8lawrence (1:52:12 PM): Is this information coming from a thread, or from AIM logs?
spies8mary (1:52:25 PM): Gertrude forgot to vote Rondak.
spies8mary (1:52:52 PM): spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=1001
spies8lawrence (1:53:09 PM): I will return shortly
spies8lawrence (1:53:11 PM): Phone call
spies8lawrence (2:00:56 PM): I have returned
spies8mary (2:03:31 PM): This looks a lot stranger than Dane's Rondak vote:
spies8mary (2:03:38 PM): "I will also let it be known that I am still all for the nomination of both Jenny and Magalie, but it does not seem like that is a possibility this round."
spies8mary (2:04:52 PM): Dane says:
spies8mary (2:05:00 PM): "I don't want to use my nomination on Rondak, as I see he is already nominated and should probably recieve self-nominations for lack of chat logs. I kinda suspect him, and he will probably already go up, so I'll put my vote to better use."
spies8mary (2:05:22 PM): "Magalie's an odd one, but I've never spoken with her that I can remember, so...meh."
spies8lawrence (2:05:41 PM): Seems consistant
spies8mary (2:05:57 PM): He didn't vote you for the same reason.
spies8mary (2:06:12 PM): "Lawrence seems to have disappeared or is on a different schedule than me, and again haven't gotten to talk to."
spies8lawrence (2:06:13 PM): Of course, he ended up nominating Rondak
spies8dane (2:06:41 PM): because people moved their votes off of him if I remember correctly
spies8lawrence (2:06:45 PM): The Awohali quote is interesting, I admit
spies8mary (2:06:59 PM): He basically was responsible for getting Rondak on the list.
spies8mary (2:07:06 PM): Which I don't have a problem with.
spies8dane (2:07:13 PM): plus I found out that no conversations and no nomination together onluy count for 1 self-nom, not 2 or 3
spies8mary (2:07:19 PM): Gertrude didn't vote, so Rondak only got 2 votes.
spies8mary (2:07:52 PM): You would have been nominated, Lawrence, if Dane hadn't voted Rondak.
spies8mary (2:07:55 PM): I think.
spies8lawrence (2:08:31 PM): But still, the same effect happened
spies8mary (2:08:43 PM): Protection of you?
spies8lawrence (2:08:55 PM): Dane caused Rondak to be nominated alongside Magalie
spies8dane (2:09:01 PM): not really on protecting lawrence
spies8lawrence (2:09:03 PM): Was the intent to protect me, or to nominate Rondak?
spies8mary (2:09:09 PM): I know, Dane.
spies8dane (2:09:10 PM): nominate rondak
spies8mary (2:09:17 PM): And possibly to protect Jenny.
spies8lawrence (2:09:21 PM): There stands my point
spies8mary (2:09:22 PM): I think she had one vote.
spies8mary (2:09:28 PM): And Dane trusted her.
spies8lawrence (2:09:29 PM): Not with the Jenny comment, but the one above it
spies8dane (2:09:37 PM): what makes you think I trust jenny?
spies8mary (2:09:43 PM): You did at the time.
spies8dane (2:09:49 PM): why do you say so?
spies8mary (2:09:59 PM): "I feel the current case against Jenny is pretty crappy, so no nom there."
spies8dane (2:10:30 PM): this was basically the crux of one of our arguments and you still get it wrong?
spies8dane (2:10:59 PM): Just because I'll attack a bad CASE with FAULTY evidence, doesn't mean I think for sure hte person is a citizen
spies8dane (2:11:13 PM): it means I don't want a possible citizen voted out on a BAD case with BAD evidence
spies8mary (2:11:17 PM): Ok.
spies8dane (2:11:24 PM): Ok.
spies8mary (2:15:55 PM): [14:39] spies8mary: What do you think of what he's posted?
spies8mary (2:16:13 PM): Lawrence, you never answered that question re: Rondak.
spies8lawrence (2:16:50 PM): Off the top of my head, all I remember is the posts connected to his replacement
spies8lawrence (2:16:53 PM): Let me look again
spies8gertrude (2:19:36 PM): Hey there, everyone.
spies8mary (2:19:43 PM): Hi.
spies8lawrence (2:19:52 PM): Good morning Gertrude
spies8lawrence (2:20:06 PM): To Mary - There isn't much there
spies8gertrude (2:20:17 PM): What was the question?
spies8mary (2:20:34 PM): Lawrence brought up Dane's vote for Rondak.
spies8lawrence (2:20:36 PM): The content in the early rounds is alright, but there has been next to nothing recently
spies8mary (2:20:54 PM): And I asked Lawrence his opinion of Rondak.
spies8gertrude (2:21:11 PM): Ah, ok.
spies8mary (2:22:32 PM): Rondak replaced in eight days ago.
spies8lawrence (2:23:00 PM): I realize this
spies8mary (2:23:27 PM): His last nomination was for reason:
spies8mary (2:23:37 PM): "This time, I'll nominate solely based on my past self's diary."
spies8gertrude (2:23:53 PM): He listed other reasons when questioned.
spies8gertrude (2:24:00 PM): Let me see if I can find them.
spies8mary (2:24:05 PM): For Chance?
spies8gertrude (2:24:08 PM): Yes.
spies8hambone (2:24:38 PM): hellllo
spies8lawrence (2:25:39 PM): Good afternoon Hambone
spies8gertrude (2:25:49 PM): [21:41] spies8rondak: It was mostly based on hearsay, gut feeling and drabbles from old Rondak
[21:42] spies8gertrude: What drabbles did old Rondak have to say about him?
[21:42] gurgelain: has joined the chat
[21:42] spies8rondak: He just said he was suspicious of him.
spies8gertrude (2:25:58 PM): [21:44] spies8rondak: I remmeber someone saying he defended (or was defended) by Magalie, and that Jenny defended him before; there's also Claude tunneling him; he seemed to be involved with several people others seem to consider suspicious, so basically I just nominated him for information.
spies8mary (2:26:44 PM): So it comes down to an information lynch.
spies8gertrude (2:27:15 PM): That's what he said.
spies8gertrude (2:27:27 PM): I believe he also cited gut at another point in time.
spies8mary (2:27:44 PM): Who do you want exiled this episode?
spies8hambone (2:27:50 PM): sorry what are we discussing
spies8gertrude (2:27:53 PM): Me?
spies8mary (2:27:56 PM): Yes.
spies8lawrence (2:27:57 PM): How best to Exile you.
spies8lawrence (2:28:00 PM): Hambone.
spies8hambone (2:28:01 PM):
spies8hambone (2:28:07 PM): a slap in the face should do!
spies8gertrude (2:28:12 PM): Depending on if I ever get a response from Dane, either him or Awohali.
spies8mary (2:28:19 PM): Why Dane?
spies8gertrude (2:28:37 PM): I'd like him to explain his actions in the Bribe event.
spies8hambone (2:28:52 PM): FOR THE RECORD
spies8hambone (2:28:56 PM): if I was at exile
spies8hambone (2:28:59 PM): and not away for 4 days
spies8hambone (2:29:01 PM): i wouldve taken the bribe
spies8hambone (2:29:03 PM): before anyone
spies8gertrude (2:29:21 PM): I'm sorry you weren't there, then.
spies8mary (2:29:22 PM): Your lameness is noted.
spies8hambone (2:29:28 PM):
spies8lawrence (2:29:49 PM): I find it quite disrespectful that anyone would take the bribe
spies8lawrence (2:30:07 PM): As someone who had to tread water in the replacement pool before I got to play, it feels like a slap in the face.
spies8hambone (2:30:23 PM): It's a part of the game I guess
spies8mary (2:30:37 PM): You were waiting in the replacement pool a long time, Lawrence?
spies8hambone (2:30:38 PM): money is very tempting to some people, me being one of them
spies8jenny (2:30:57 PM): Okies, I'm back and caught up in what I missed.
spies8lawrence (2:31:31 PM): Yes, I was
spies8gertrude (2:31:41 PM): Hi, Jenny.
spies8hambone (2:31:45 PM): Hi mom!
spies8mary (2:31:47 PM): That's weird.
spies8mary (2:32:00 PM): "As this isn't fair to any of you, I've made the suggestion that I be replaced. I'm sorry to all for not being around, and I wish you all good luck as the game continues."
spies8mary (2:32:04 PM): July 12th.
spies8lawrence (2:32:26 PM): Was that Rondak or Lawrence?
spies8jenny (2:32:30 PM): Lawry.
spies8mary (2:32:30 PM): Lawrence.
spies8lawrence (2:32:47 PM): Maybe our "honorable" judge asked others before myself?
spies8lawrence (2:32:55 PM): I do not know the methods behind his selections
spies8mary (2:33:01 PM): I guess Sam was busy sponging down his place after Dane left.
spies8mary (2:33:27 PM): Hi.
spies8kiara (2:33:31 PM): hey
spies8hambone (2:33:34 PM): hellllo
spies8lawrence (2:33:44 PM): Good afternoon my dear Kiara
spies8gertrude (2:34:07 PM): Hey, Lawrence, sorry if this has already been asked, but, who are you thinking of nominating? Same goes to Kiara, Chance, Jenny, and Dane.
spies8lawrence (2:34:26 PM): I just made a post about it in the thread.
spies8gertrude (2:34:30 PM): Oh!
spies8lawrence (2:34:31 PM): Right now, Dane
spies8gertrude (2:34:32 PM): My apologies.
spies8lawrence (2:34:37 PM): It is totally fine
spies8hambone (2:34:44 PM): NO ITS NOT
spies8hambone (2:34:47 PM): *hits gert*
spies8lawrence (2:34:52 PM): Never assault a woman!
spies8lawrence (2:34:56 PM): What kind of a man are you?
spies8hambone (2:34:58 PM): too late
spies8hambone (2:35:02 PM): i killed her baby 2
spies8hambone (2:35:12 PM): cuz she wouldnt name it Hamgirl
spies8gertrude (2:35:22 PM): Mmm.
spies8lawrence (2:35:31 PM): There are a number of males to attack in the room . . . Chance, Claude, Dane, myself, and Mary
spies8kiara (2:35:35 PM): im leaving toward jenny again
spies8lawrence (2:35:41 PM): Why on earth would you choose a woman like Gertrude?
spies8hambone (2:35:45 PM): if I hit Chance he'll try and kiss me
spies8kiara (2:36:14 PM): wouldnt be the first time hams hit a woman
spies8dane (2:36:26 PM): back
spies8gertrude (2:36:51 PM): Hi!
spies8dane (2:36:54 PM): so what are you voting me for exactly lawrence? you're misinterpretations of what I said that were already corrected
spies8dane (2:36:56 PM): ?
spies8kiara (2:37:12 PM): wow, hyperdefesive much
spies8dane (2:37:40 PM): lol, no, we had a conversation a bit ago which was basically I say something, he misunderstands, I correct, rinse and repeat
spies8lawrence (2:37:51 PM): I understand your arguments, something still seems strange though
spies8dane (2:37:57 PM): such as?
spies8lawrence (2:39:06 PM): You nominated Zedekiah, so I don't see why you would say "that Exile was not supposed to happen." I understand putting it in the frame of the Kiara Exile was supposed to happen, but that makes it seem as though you were supportive of the Kiara Exile. If so, why did you nominate Zedekiah?
spies8lawrence (2:39:44 PM): And there is also my other point of suspicion for you - the Rondak vote.
spies8dane (2:40:06 PM): so... your misinterpretations that were already corrected are why you are voting me
spies8lawrence (2:40:21 PM): You have not responded to what I just said yet
spies8dane (2:40:30 PM): mary corrected you for me on that one
spies8lawrence (2:40:38 PM): Did you support Kiara being Exiled pre-role claim?
spies8dane (2:40:47 PM): I already answered that as well
spies8jenny (2:40:50 PM): I think he already did earlier. He was saying Kitty was up on the block until shortly before exile when she claimed to them and then everyone changed votes.
spies8dane (2:41:28 PM): I already told you multiple times I didn't DISagree with a kiara lynch, but I preferred a zedekiah one
spies8dane (2:41:57 PM): so both your "points" are your misinterpretations, that multiple people have already corrected but "you find them strange" anyway
spies8dane (2:42:13 PM): those are "very" sarcastic quotation marks btw
spies8gertrude (2:43:19 PM): Why did you try to take the bribe after Allan had already done so?
spies8dane (2:43:36 PM): I had been going back and forth over whether I wanted to take the bribe
spies8dane (2:43:56 PM): the reason I didn't talk much during that was because I had it typed up, big font size, and bold, ready to go
spies8dane (2:44:07 PM): I kept waiting for it to get around 25-30
spies8dane (2:44:15 PM): then allan quit out of nowhere
spies8dane (2:44:25 PM): and at first I was like, dammn, I missed my chance
spies8dane (2:44:36 PM): then I realized he was doing the small font and sam had SPECIFIED it had to be big
spies8dane (2:44:39 PM): so I posted mine
spies8dane (2:45:11 PM): Timewise my life is busy right now
spies8gertrude (2:45:12 PM): Hm.
spies8dane (2:45:20 PM): and I'm honestly not able to contribute enough
spies8dane (2:45:27 PM): I never even got through all of the ep6 chats
spies8dane (2:45:31 PM): just the first 2 or 3
spies8hambone (2:45:34 PM): dane stop being a puss
spies8hambone (2:45:46 PM): hi
spies8dane (2:45:53 PM): hambone, shut the fuck up and back off you dickless twat, i'm not talking to you at the moment
spies8gertrude (2:45:54 PM): Hambone, you said not 20 minutes ago that you would've been the first to take the bribe.
spies8hambone (2:46:03 PM): hell ya!
spies8lawrence (2:46:07 PM): Wow . . . what a temper.
spies8hambone (2:46:15 PM): me and dane dont get along <3
spies8dane (2:46:15 PM): no, just fed up with him
spies8hambone (2:46:26 PM): what did I do!?
spies8hambone (2:46:29 PM): i was just joking around
spies8hambone (2:46:32 PM): and saying hi to u
spies8gertrude (2:46:49 PM): I'm confused, though, Dane. Originally, it just seemed like WIFOM.
spies8lawrence (2:47:01 PM): Dane - Who do you plan on nominating right now? I know I already asked and you said "not Stephanie," but have you gotten a more specific answer yet?
spies8gertrude (2:47:07 PM): Then, I saw this: spies8dane (10:53:45 PM): NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
spies8dane (10:53:50 PM): MAKE THE ROLE STAY
spies8dane (2:47:29 PM): how would I have a more specific answer for you when I was busy talking in here and then went afk?
spies8gertrude (2:47:35 PM): And I figured you may have been trying to help the town by sacrificing yourself instead of Allan, a roleholder.
spies8dane (2:47:45 PM): nothing so noble gertrude
spies8gertrude (2:47:47 PM): But, your answer here says otherwise.
spies8gertrude (2:47:50 PM): So, hm.
spies8lawrence (2:48:13 PM): I didn't know - you could have gone silent in chat to read the Burg, or you could have had your mind changed by thinking while talking?
spies8lawrence (2:48:25 PM): Why are your answers always so . . . antagonistic?
spies8gertrude (2:48:37 PM): Both of you are antagonizing each other.
spies8dane (2:48:45 PM): because you annoy me
spies8gertrude (2:48:46 PM): It's not effective communication.
spies8dane (2:48:57 PM): and verbally point in my face a lot
spies8gertrude (2:50:26 PM): Dane, who are you thinking of nominating tonight?
spies8dane (2:50:29 PM): -_-
spies8gertrude (2:50:40 PM): Did you just post that?
spies8lawrence (2:50:44 PM): Ohohohohoho
spies8gertrude (2:50:48 PM): I seem to have timing like that tonight.
spies8dane (2:51:01 PM): I was just asked who I was nominated for the second time by lawrence
spies8dane (2:51:08 PM): and still answered that I don't know
spies8gertrude (2:51:17 PM): Oh, oops.
spies8gertrude (2:51:24 PM): My apologies.
spies8dane (2:51:27 PM): np
spies8hambone (2:51:41 PM): nominate jenny
spies8hambone (2:51:44 PM):
spies8gertrude (2:51:48 PM): Well, you have like 6 hours to decide.
spies8gertrude (2:51:57 PM): So, who are your suspects so far?
spies8dane (2:52:09 PM): I may be moving off my usual suspect list
spies8gertrude (2:52:16 PM): Like, do you have a general pool of people in which you'd be selecting to nominate?
spies8kiara (2:52:32 PM): ugh, got some errans to run. will try and be back on asap. later guys
spies8dane (2:54:21 PM): broderick caught my eye recently, not sure why; rondak comes back to mind, and lets say chance and owen for kicks
spies8dane (2:55:12 PM): oh
spies8dane (2:55:15 PM): and lawrence
spies8dane (2:55:21 PM): because I feel like an OMGUS
spies8dane (2:55:26 PM): for crappy reasoning
spies8gertrude (2:55:53 PM): Ok.
spies8lawrence (2:55:54 PM): Thank you for including me in the afterthought
spies8dane (2:56:19 PM): np
spies8gertrude (3:17:32 PM): I'm going to take a nap. Good luck with nominations, everyone. Please choose wisely, and vote strictly for your suspicions this time, not for "who I think could go up". With so little House members, your votes mean more than ever.
spies8jenny (3:18:04 PM): Two votes seems to be the standard lately for getting in.
spies8jenny (3:19:19 PM): Let me just update the logs quick.
spies8jenny (3:21:49 PM): There we go.
spies8lawrence (3:44:15 PM): LAST
spies8claude (3:44:24 PM): LaSt?
spies8claude (3:44:31 PM): er what?
spies8lawrence (3:44:38 PM): (For copying and pasting from AIM logs into confessional)
spies8lawrence (3:44:47 PM): In case I come back in here again
spies8claude (3:44:56 PM): Ahhhh.
spies8lawrence (3:44:58 PM): I would like to keep them separate (just a slight ocd tendency on my part)
spies8claude (3:44:59 PM): Clever.
spies8jenny (3:45:01 PM): Oh shoot, I have to do that still, and I'm going to be out tonight.
spies8lawrence (3:45:01 PM): Anyways
spies8lawrence (3:45:03 PM): LAST

[Lawrence]

Mary

spies8lawrence (10:56:27 AM): This isn't horrible, is it?
spies8lawrence (11:17:12 AM): That did not go well, did it?
spies8mary (11:19:44 AM): No, it was good.
spies8mary (11:19:50 AM): It shows you're paying attention.
spies8mary (11:20:03 AM): That's way better than Rondak.
spies8lawrence (11:20:15 AM): And Citizens do try and fail
spies8lawrence (1:14:20 PM): Do I pursue that?
spies8lawrence (1:14:45 PM): After the chat with Broderick, Broderick doesn't look so bad
spies8lawrence (1:14:56 PM): But this still doesn't seem right
spies8lawrence (3:44:17 PM): LAST

[Lawrence]

Gertrude

spies8lawrence (3:07:29 PM): Good afternoon my dear Gertrude
spies8lawrence (3:07:32 PM): How are you today?
spies8gertrude (3:11:03 PM): Tired, actually.
spies8gertrude (3:11:09 PM): I never went to bed last night.
spies8lawrence (3:11:22 PM): That does seem like it would induce fatigue.
spies8gertrude (3:11:26 PM): I wanted to get on, see that nominations were going smoothly, and take a nap.
spies8gertrude (3:11:32 PM): But, they're not.
spies8lawrence (3:11:48 PM): I would like to think with the deadline so soon there would be more discussion
spies8gertrude (3:12:16 PM): But, at this point, I just don't care! I'm tired. I'm going to sleep. I'll talk to you later tonight if you're on.
spies8lawrence (3:12:29 PM): I probably will be
spies8gertrude (3:12:37 PM): Good luck with getting Dane nominated, I think that's a good choice.
spies8lawrence (3:12:54 PM): Thank you . . . good luck with catching up on sleep
spies8gertrude (3:13:02 PM): Also, I'd watch for the people who voted for Chance last time and see what they do this time.
spies8lawrence (3:13:12 PM): I do have a seventh birthday party to perform at tonight, but that won't take up all night
spies8gertrude (3:13:20 PM): I have a feeling they won't be on him this time.
spies8lawrence (3:13:22 PM): Why that group specifically?
spies8gertrude (3:13:45 PM): Well, Rondak got destroyed for his pathetic vote reasoning.
spies8gertrude (3:14:11 PM): And Broderick's only voted for 2 different people (except for when it was Themba/Magalie, where he chose wrong)
spies8gertrude (3:14:20 PM): And Awohali got his Senate vote back.
spies8lawrence (3:15:03 PM): Alright, I will probably go back and look at their votes for Chance, and their reasoning for their new votes
spies8gertrude (3:16:23 PM): Good luck tonight with the show!
spies8lawrence (3:16:31 PM): Thank you my dear
spies8lawrence (3:16:37 PM): Good luck with the counting sheep
spies8gertrude went away at 3:17:41 PM
spies8gertrude (3:17:54 PM): Thanks.
spies8lawrence (3:44:25 PM): LAST

[Lawrence]

spies8

spies8stephanie (9:53:54 PM): so brod, why cinn?
spies8lawrence (9:54:03 PM): Good evening everyone
spies8stephanie (9:54:15 PM): hi larry
spies8lawrence (9:54:28 PM): So many nominations!
spies8lawrence (9:56:44 PM): Does anyone know why Kiara nominated Chance?
spies8lawrence (9:56:53 PM): Did she post about it anywhere?
spies8stephanie (9:57:00 PM): i dont' see a vote by awohali?
spies8lawrence (9:57:17 PM): Ah!
spies8lawrence (9:57:23 PM): It does appear as if he did not vote!
spies8cinnamyn (9:57:32 PM): hez on da senate
spies8lawrence (9:57:46 PM): . . . I am ashamed to have overlooked that.
sorintheseeker (10:00:54 PM): senators ~ don't forget to vote! hopefully you can remember who is nominated....
sorintheseeker (10:01:00 PM): let's see who are the six that aren't nominated
spies8hambone (10:01:02 PM): lol
spies8hambone (10:01:07 PM): all the senators are gonna self vote!
spies8jenny (10:01:30 PM): I think someone listed earlier who the not nominated were.
spies8lawrence (10:01:35 PM): It seems that discussion is lacking on such a dramatic night . . . how disapointing
spies8jenny (10:01:45 PM): 28] spies8hambone: so just Me, Brody, Owen, Kiara, Gert, and Mary
sorintheseeker (10:01:49 PM): broderick, gertrude, hambone, kiara, mary, owen i think
spies8cinnamyn (10:01:58 PM): and gertie wuz safe
spies8stephanie (10:02:08 PM): gert was immune
spies8stephanie (10:02:22 PM): again!
spies8lawrence (10:02:27 PM): In all reality, only five escaped the vote
sorintheseeker (10:02:39 PM): as i mentioned earlier, 8 out of 16 players are online now, that's an incredible feat
spies8broderick (10:02:57 PM): online doesn't equal actually here though. lol
spies8lawrence (10:02:58 PM): This is exciting, but it seems as if no one is talking
sorintheseeker (10:03:04 PM): i dont know what online aim games you play but if you find ones with more players online than that regularly let me know so i can join =)
spies8lawrence (10:03:12 PM): Unless it is all behind-the-scenes vote campaigning
spies8broderick (10:03:51 PM): Claude and Mary aren't here
spies8stephanie (10:03:51 PM): larry, did you see my comments about dane earlier in the chat?
sorintheseeker (10:04:03 PM): i am going to go sit in a dark room and count the seconds go by until starcraft 2 comes out (50 hours!!!)
sorintheseeker (10:04:08 PM): ttyl <3
spies8broderick (10:04:15 PM): lol
spies8jenny (10:04:20 PM): Have fun Sammy.
spies8lawrence (10:04:23 PM): Goodbye honorable Judge Sam
spies8hambone (10:04:34 PM): bye
spies8lawrence (10:04:42 PM): Stephanie, I do not believe I did
spies8lawrence (10:04:46 PM): Would you care to repeat them?
spies8lawrence (10:04:51 PM): It seems I came in after they were spoken
spies8broderick (10:04:53 PM): Are you cuaght up Jenny?
spies8stephanie (10:05:12 PM): well it was about why dane said that zeke was not supposed to be exiled
spies8lawrence (10:05:47 PM): What did you have to say about that?
spies8lawrence (10:05:53 PM): That is an interesting topic
spies8stephanie (10:06:06 PM): dane asked me the morning of exile who he should vote for. he was panicking cause he needed to vote and had to go to work
spies8stephanie (10:06:42 PM): i told him various opinions and finally he asked me kiara or zeke? and i told him kiara
spies8lawrence (10:07:00 PM): Yet he ended up casting a vote for Zedekiah
spies8stephanie (10:07:10 PM): later cory told me he had the same conversation with dane
spies8stephanie (10:07:38 PM): i thought it odd at the time since dane and i have not exactly been friendly
spies8stephanie (10:07:52 PM): he's called me a bitch more times than i can count
spies8lawrence (10:08:11 PM): He seems like the type of person to do so
spies8stephanie (10:08:18 PM): and so when he voted against my recommendations, i didn't think that much about it
spies8stephanie (10:08:31 PM): but when cory had said the same thing?
spies8lawrence (10:08:44 PM): Have you been able to question him about this?
spies8stephanie (10:08:59 PM): nope
spies8lawrence (10:09:03 PM): I will do so if I have opportunity, but I was gone this evening performing at a children's birthday party
spies8lawrence (10:09:18 PM): We should be sure to bring up this line of thought when conversing with him next
spies8lawrence (10:10:37 PM): Stephanie, may I inquire as to who you plan on voting for in the upcoming Exile?
spies8stephanie (10:10:48 PM): i haven't decided yet
spies8stephanie (10:11:06 PM): dane might be a possiblity
spies8lawrence (10:11:22 PM): Quite understandable, seeing as nominations have only been up for a short time, and there is a large variety of heads underneath the metaphorical guillotine
spies8lawrence (10:12:11 PM): I do wish to conduct a more thourough investigation of Dane
spies8stephanie (10:12:34 PM): i am also wondering how zeke became so suspicious again
spies8lawrence (10:12:47 PM): My thoughts on him were merely based on what occured in the chat room this afternoon, and my dislike of his antagonistic attitude may have colored my views
spies8stephanie (10:12:57 PM): i had thought that his interactions with alexei had exonerated him for the most part?
spies8lawrence (10:13:29 PM): This is a very curious question, one that I have thought of myself, but in a different fashion
spies8lawrence (10:13:41 PM): The Zedekiah Exile smells very fishy to me
spies8hambone (10:13:49 PM): ^
spies8lawrence (10:13:58 PM): It seems as if he was a high profile suspect during episode 1, then fell off the face of the earth
spies8hambone (10:14:07 PM): ive been gone all week
spies8hambone (10:14:10 PM): who nominated Z
spies8hambone (10:14:13 PM): and who voted him out
spies8stephanie (10:14:19 PM): dane and kiara?
spies8lawrence (10:14:23 PM): He wasn't mentioned until episode 6 and from what I've seen, it was based on what previously occured
spies8stephanie (10:14:25 PM): dane and someone?
spies8lawrence (10:14:25 PM): I can check
spies8hambone (10:14:29 PM): jenny?!?!?!?!?
spies8hambone (10:14:31 PM): JENNNNY?!?!?!
spies8hambone (10:14:33 PM): JENNNNNY!??
spies8hambone (10:14:40 PM): *calms down*
spies8cinnamyn (10:14:46 PM): i thot dane/jenny
spies8hambone (10:14:50 PM): ooo
spies8hambone (10:14:52 PM): no surprise
spies8lawrence (10:14:53 PM): What further makes this seem weird is that in my opinion Magalie quite obviously cleared Zedekiah
spies8stephanie (10:14:55 PM): gert had her vote stuck on zeke
spies8hambone (10:15:02 PM): she been targetting him since week one
spies8cinnamyn (10:15:02 PM): then gertie/owen/cory voted 4 him
spies8lawrence (10:15:03 PM): When she was still around
spies8stephanie (10:15:04 PM): from before the kiara claim
spies8hambone (10:15:07 PM): ok
spies8lawrence (10:15:09 PM): Yet no one took it into consideration
spies8hambone (10:15:10 PM): and cory is dead
spies8hambone (10:15:13 PM): so u can cross him off
spies8hambone (10:15:21 PM): owen u might as well cross off too, no?
spies8stephanie (10:15:30 PM): and then cory and owen switched to zeke after the kiara claim
spies8hambone (10:15:33 PM): thats some intense betrayal if he voted for that many spies
spies8hambone (10:15:40 PM): ah ok
spies8hambone (10:15:45 PM): i didnt know that
spies8lawrence (10:15:46 PM): I do not think that Owen is Jason
spies8cinnamyn (10:15:53 PM): me neither
spies8stephanie (10:16:02 PM): i thought cory was
spies8hambone (10:16:04 PM): well i told jenny earlier
spies8hambone (10:16:11 PM): that her voting for Z and suspecting Z for so long
spies8hambone (10:16:12 PM): since week one
spies8stephanie (10:16:13 PM): but i guess that's not the ccase
spies8lawrence (10:16:21 PM): The Magalie issue makes me somewhat suspicious of Jenny, the archiver of group chats
spies8hambone (10:16:22 PM): shes using him as like a scapegoat, not a scapegoat but like
spies8hambone (10:16:27 PM): someone to always suspect and go after
spies8lawrence (10:16:30 PM): It happened in group chats, and she seems to know what goes in in there
spies8lawrence (10:16:36 PM): Yet she didn't mention that Magalie cleared Zedekiah
spies8stephanie (10:16:53 PM): i thought alexei had cleared zeke
spies8lawrence (10:17:07 PM): Allow me to pull up what I discovered
spies8stephanie (10:17:11 PM): i def had zeke on my cit list
spies8jenny (10:17:13 PM): I'm glad you have such faith in my memory, since I don't. Why do you think I have those logs in the first place?
spies8broderick (10:17:25 PM): Are you caught up now Jenny?
spies8hambone (10:17:28 PM): Z would start to get cleared, and then he'd slip up
spies8lawrence (10:17:29 PM): Good evening Jenny
spies8hambone (10:17:31 PM): and say weird stuff
spies8hambone (10:17:37 PM): so its hard to say he was ever cleared
spies8jenny (10:17:45 PM): I'm still catching up, just checking back every so often.
spies8stephanie (10:17:47 PM): zeke was def odd
spies8hambone (10:17:48 PM): however i definitely dont think Z shouldve been exiled
spies8hambone (10:17:51 PM): so effed up
spies8hambone (10:17:54 PM): and im pissed about it
spies8hambone (10:18:06 PM): before i left i told everyone in the chatroom he was cit
spies8lawrence (10:18:09 PM): [22:07] spies8tina: Zek (switched off Alexei) - Sav - Themba - Isaac.
[22:08] spies8magalie: hummm.... so you got one spy
[22:08] spies8magalie: lucky you
[22:08] spies8magalie: I dont think that makes it
[22:08] spies8magalie: great
[22:08] spies8tina: It is not great.
[22:08] spies8magalie: YOu sent three other cits home
spies8broderick (10:18:17 PM): Zed was 'cleared' because of his chats with Isaac.
spies8lawrence (10:18:20 PM): This is the segment of chat I speak of
spies8broderick (10:18:23 PM): Apparently Chance was for the same reason
spies8stephanie (10:18:25 PM): but i still never thought that the alexei/zeke confrontation during our first chat was spy v spy
spies8broderick (10:18:35 PM): but that didn't seem to matter at the time Kiara roleclaimed
spies8stephanie (10:19:01 PM): which is why i started cussing out owen and cory
spies8broderick (10:20:09 PM): lol
spies8stephanie (10:20:53 PM): no wonder owen had to take some time off -- i really lambasted both of them
spies8lawrence (10:22:34 PM): Broderick, why did you nominate Cinnamyn?
spies8broderick (10:22:48 PM): they should of voted for lawrence, since chance and zed were 'cits'
spies8lawrence (10:23:32 PM): Even though I would have flipped the same way, I agree that the Exile was misplayed
spies8cinnamyn (10:23:37 PM): i think by focusing on da direct votez 4 zed we will get nowhere, while we shud focus on how dose 3 got nominated in da furst place.
spies8cinnamyn (10:23:43 PM): so dat wen kiara claimed, votez diverted 2 zed
spies8stephanie (10:23:58 PM): i do place part of the blame on kiara for waiting so late to claim
spies8lawrence (10:24:01 PM): Is this your reasoning for nominating Cinnamyn?
spies8broderick (10:24:02 PM): Because of Claude yes
spies8stephanie (10:24:09 PM): and wonder if she did it on purpose
spies8stephanie (10:24:17 PM): she was here much earlier
spies8broderick (10:24:28 PM): She was
spies8cinnamyn (10:24:55 PM): she told me she had sumthin' 2 tell me about allan earlier that day
spies8cinnamyn (10:24:57 PM): but sed nothin' bout a role
spies8broderick (10:25:09 PM): that didn't have to do with her role
spies8broderick (10:25:16 PM): I told her to be quiet about that.
spies8lawrence (10:25:21 PM): Claude's role bothers me a great deal
spies8stephanie (10:25:41 PM): and is claude here?
spies8stephanie (10:25:52 PM): and did he use his role this round?
spies8broderick (10:25:54 PM): Apparently both things would've 'cleared' her
spies8broderick (10:26:00 PM): Claude hasn't been here for awhile.
spies8lawrence (10:26:41 PM): The role itself seems far more beneficial to a Spy than to a Citizen
spies8cinnamyn (10:27:15 PM): i jus' dont think we shud have been tailoring our votez 2 who owen cud vote 4
spies8stephanie (10:27:17 PM): and i think by limiting owen last round, he certainly used it more like a spy
spies8broderick (10:27:27 PM): Why didn't you say that then?
spies8cinnamyn (10:27:37 PM): me.?
spies8lawrence (10:27:39 PM): I agree with Stephanie on that topic
spies8broderick (10:27:44 PM): Yeah, Cinnamyn
spies8stephanie (10:27:45 PM): or me?
spies8lawrence (10:27:50 PM): Good evening my dear Jasmine
spies8stephanie (10:27:52 PM): i did
spies8jasmine (10:27:53 PM): Hello.
spies8cinnamyn (10:27:59 PM): i did, but i found kiara and zed suspishis 4 other reazinz
spies8cinnamyn (10:28:05 PM): i didnt change my suspectz 2 who claude wanted me 2
spies8lawrence (10:28:09 PM): Such an exotic name, I quite like it
spies8cinnamyn (10:28:26 PM): sum ppl claimed dey wuz voting kiara or zed jus' so owen had difrent choices
spies8cinnamyn (10:28:32 PM): but dey were a lot more voterz den jus' owen
spies8stephanie (10:28:52 PM): and even more this round
spies8jasmine (10:29:02 PM): Wow, a ton of nominations.
spies8broderick (10:29:07 PM): less voters than last round
spies8stephanie (10:29:18 PM): next time we might be down to just 2 or 3 people nominating
spies8broderick (10:29:19 PM): er never mind. was thinking in the HoR, not the senate
spies8stephanie (10:29:33 PM): that's a lot of power for the nominators
spies8broderick (10:29:43 PM): I think that was a thought like all episode, and not many people said how it was a bad idea
spies8broderick (10:29:52 PM): Like people did it, and very few have actually caught flak over it
spies8broderick (10:30:21 PM): You'd have to have at least three, yeah?
spies8stephanie (10:30:56 PM): idk sam did say there would be one person who never won back his vote
spies8broderick (10:31:02 PM): I wonder how that would work. I don't think you could get down to 2 or 3 nominators. Because then they could just all vote for the same person, and completely cut the senate out of voting
spies8cinnamyn (10:31:20 PM): hmm
spies8cinnamyn (10:31:23 PM): i hadnt thot of that
spies8cinnamyn (10:31:32 PM): bcuz considering dis las' vote, i doubt dat wud happen
spies8lawrence (10:31:34 PM): Currently there are nine senate members, and seven nominators, correct?
spies8broderick (10:31:51 PM): yes
spies8lawrence (10:32:00 PM): I suspect that next round it will become eleven on the Senate and five nominators
spies8lawrence (10:32:15 PM): And the round after, the division will be no more, save for the voteless player
spies8broderick (10:32:20 PM): Could feasibly see another person join the senate this episode
spies8stephanie (10:32:28 PM): except 2 people will be gone, larry
spies8stephanie (10:32:39 PM): so 10 and 4?
spies8broderick (10:32:45 PM): exile and imprisonment
spies8lawrence (10:33:02 PM): Oh, I forgot about the elimination
spies8lawrence (10:33:05 PM): *eliminations
spies8lawrence (10:33:13 PM): That complicates things
spies8stephanie (10:33:56 PM): ok i'm out -- gonna go dream about my vote
spies8stephanie (10:34:05 PM): see you guys tomorrow
spies8lawrence (10:34:14 PM): Good night Stephanie
spies8jasmine (10:34:57 PM): Wow the public grounds just became video game central.
spies8broderick (10:36:11 PM): lol?
spies8jasmine (10:36:20 PM): Yes Broderick, it is pretty funny.
spies8broderick (10:36:22 PM): kiara posted in the public grounds but no where else and idnt come on aim?
spies8broderick (10:36:44 PM): Did you read the burg threads before public grounds?
spies8jasmine (10:37:51 PM): who the hell r u tlking to
spies8broderick (10:38:05 PM): You
spies8jasmine (10:38:21 PM): then huh
spies8broderick (10:39:08 PM): Did you read the threads in the burg before you read the threads in public grounds?
spies8jasmine (10:39:25 PM): most of the ones in the burg, yes. why?
spies8broderick (10:40:01 PM): curious
spies8cinnamyn (10:41:13 PM): jazmine who wud u have voted..if u wud have voted.?
spies8jasmine (10:41:44 PM): I think I'd have voted for Claude
spies8jasmine (10:41:55 PM): based on the point where ive caught with, i dont like how he defended magalie
spies8jasmine (10:42:00 PM): trying to get her not to be exiled.
spies8jasmine (10:42:20 PM): and i think the chance vs claude thing needs to be solved, i think one of them must be a spy.
spies8cinnamyn (10:42:28 PM): y.?
spies8jasmine (10:42:48 PM): I don't think if they were both spies, Chance woulda fought like he did for a claude lynch.
spies8jasmine (10:43:00 PM): to the point where claude had to out his "power role"
spies8jasmine (10:43:55 PM): I'm going to take a shower, and then sleep--I work tomorrow morning.
spies8jasmine (10:44:01 PM): I'll talk to everyone later. Good night!
spies8cinnamyn (10:44:02 PM): hmmmm datz a gud point really
spies8broderick (10:44:08 PM): lol?
spies8cinnamyn (10:44:11 PM): aight bye boo
spies8lawrence (10:44:16 PM): Unless
spies8jasmine (10:44:19 PM): Broderick, do u have a fucking problem
spies8lawrence (10:44:22 PM): It was a planned claim?
spies8jasmine (10:44:25 PM): if u do, then come out and say it
spies8jasmine (10:44:29 PM): your such an ass.
spies8broderick (10:44:31 PM): Excuse you?
spies8jasmine (10:44:34 PM): no, excuse u
spies8jasmine (10:44:40 PM): with your "lol?"s everytime i speak.
spies8lawrence (10:44:44 PM): I seem to recall from my reading in the Burg that the Claude claim was strange
spies8jasmine (10:44:57 PM): Anyways, I'm off for the night. Talk to u all later.
spies8broderick (10:45:04 PM): You have no idea what I'm even loling at Jasmine
spies8broderick (10:45:06 PM): Get a grip
spies8jasmine (10:45:18 PM): know who your tralking to broderick, asshole
spies8lawrence (10:45:25 PM): Sorry if I appear to be playing devil's advocate too hard, but I do not want us in a situation where we clear someone unneccessarily, and lose because of it
spies8lawrence (10:45:31 PM): Well, you two seem friendly
spies8cinnamyn (10:45:33 PM): tru lawrence, cuz claude claimed early in da episode
spies8broderick (10:45:52 PM): Yeah. Never knew loling was offensive or a crime
spies8lawrence (10:46:02 PM): We know for sure the claim is not fake, but its alignment is up in the air
spies8cinnamyn (10:46:18 PM): claimed he did it 2 "get informashin", but really it wuz 2 save hiz ass, which we all pritty much knew and he admitted 2 l8r
spies8lawrence (10:46:23 PM): Broderick - I think you two have chemistry. Once she gets rid of her male anatomy, I think you would be quite a cute couple
spies8broderick (10:46:33 PM): lol fuck no
spies8lawrence (10:46:57 PM): I already have a nickname for you both - Jazzerick
spies8lawrence (10:47:03 PM): It has a nice ring to it, no?
spies8broderick (10:47:09 PM): I'm currently engaged, so again - fuck no
spies8cinnamyn (10:47:47 PM): it wudnt b 2 much dif'rent frum a real marriage, fightin' all da tyme
spies8lawrence (10:48:27 PM): Maybe a reality television program to go with the unhappy union?
spies8lawrence (10:48:38 PM): The American public surely eats up on such trashy television
spies8broderick (10:48:41 PM): That was an ode to Mags
spies8cinnamyn (10:48:53 PM): i miss her
spies8cinnamyn (10:49:14 PM): there arent nearly enuf "fucks", "shits" and "dicks" in tha game n e more
spies8broderick (10:49:20 PM): lol
spies8hambone (10:49:22 PM): SHIT
spies8hambone (10:49:23 PM): DICK PISS
spies8hambone (10:49:25 PM): uhhh
spies8hambone (10:49:28 PM): FUCK
spies8cinnamyn (10:49:29 PM): SHUTUP YA FUKKIN QUEER
spies8hambone (10:49:32 PM): fuck a shit
spies8hambone (10:49:34 PM): with dick
spies8hambone (10:49:37 PM): there
spies8broderick (10:49:48 PM): 0 queers since she left
spies8cinnamyn (10:49:52 PM): can we play charades.?
spies8hambone (10:49:57 PM): yessssss!!
spies8lawrence (10:49:59 PM): This coarse speech embarrasses me
spies8cinnamyn (10:50:12 PM): ill start
spies8lawrence (10:50:14 PM): When I was your age, we did not possess such vulgar tongues
spies8cinnamyn (10:50:20 PM): *beep boop beep bop*
spies8cinnamyn (10:50:21 PM): DOES NOT COMPUTE
spies8hambone (10:50:23 PM): ROBOT
spies8broderick (10:50:32 PM): Claude
spies8cinnamyn (10:50:41 PM): STANDARD PROTOCAL STATES CHANCE MUST GO
spies8cinnamyn (10:50:45 PM): point - broderick
spies8broderick (10:50:52 PM): lol
spies8hambone (10:50:53 PM): GAH what da heck
spies8hambone (10:51:07 PM): can i go now?
spies8cinnamyn (10:51:10 PM): ok
spies8hambone (10:51:14 PM): ok ready......
spies8hambone (10:51:25 PM): * I was online all night playin computer games!
spies8hambone (10:51:32 PM): * and i didnt know how to sign off!*
spies8broderick (10:51:34 PM): Zed
spies8cinnamyn (10:51:38 PM): lmbooooo
spies8hambone (10:51:51 PM): *brb gotta go check out the HQ*
spies8hambone (10:51:52 PM): lol
spies8hambone (10:51:54 PM): point brody
spies8cinnamyn (10:52:13 PM): ok ur turn brod
spies8broderick (10:52:32 PM): K
spies8broderick (10:52:46 PM): *nods*
spies8hambone (10:52:49 PM): RONDAK
spies8cinnamyn (10:52:56 PM): curse my slow fingerz
spies8hambone (10:52:59 PM):
spies8broderick (10:53:04 PM): lol
spies8cinnamyn (10:53:24 PM): ok now me
spies8cinnamyn (10:53:41 PM): "omg cory you are so hot plz mary me and have lots of hot and sweaty gay buttsex with me oh please cory"
spies8hambone (10:53:45 PM): CHANCE
spies8broderick (10:53:47 PM): Chance
spies8lawrence (10:53:53 PM): Chance
spies8cinnamyn (10:53:53 PM): ding ding ding!
spies8broderick (10:53:56 PM): or Jasmine
spies8hambone (10:53:57 PM): my turnnnnn
spies8cinnamyn (10:53:58 PM): LOL
spies8cinnamyn (10:53:59 PM): either or
spies8hambone (10:54:02 PM): ready?
spies8lawrence (10:54:02 PM): (Had to jump on the bandwagon there.)
spies8cinnamyn (10:54:15 PM): omg it cud b jasmine cuz she still haz a dick lmboooooo
spies8hambone (10:54:21 PM): *posts picture of unicorns head goin one way*
spies8broderick (10:54:25 PM): lol I know
spies8hambone (10:54:26 PM): *shit which way does it go*
spies8broderick (10:54:28 PM): Hamboner
spies8hambone (10:54:30 PM): *ok ill put it the other way NOW*
spies8hambone (10:54:34 PM): NO bitch!
spies8hambone (10:54:36 PM): not me
spies8hambone (10:54:42 PM):
spies8broderick (10:54:45 PM): I thought you posted the pic with it
spies8hambone (10:54:48 PM): Cory
spies8broderick (10:54:50 PM): Wasnt on that team
spies8lawrence (10:54:51 PM): Anyways, these old joints tire.
spies8broderick (10:54:54 PM): Oh lol
spies8lawrence (10:54:56 PM): Good night everyone
spies8hambone (10:54:57 PM): Cory made like
spies8hambone (10:54:59 PM): 4 diff't pics
spies8hambone (10:55:00 PM): LOL
spies8broderick (10:55:00 PM): Philosoraptor!
spies8cinnamyn (10:55:05 PM): bye lawrence

[Lawrence]

Cinnamyn

spies8lawrence (10:18:53 PM): Nice case on Awohali, very interesting
spies8cinnamyn (10:19:04 PM): thx boo
spies8cinnamyn (10:19:10 PM): i think i wud lyke 2 c him exiled dis round
spies8lawrence (10:19:37 PM): Especially with both of us nominated, that would be ideal
spies8lawrence (10:19:42 PM): I would rather stick around longer than one round
spies8cinnamyn (10:19:56 PM): lmbo.!
spies8cinnamyn (10:19:59 PM): i think u will b gud
spies8cinnamyn (10:20:13 PM): i also find jenny suspishis and wudnt b adversed 2 her goin'
spies8lawrence (10:20:33 PM): Awohali preferrable to Jenny
spies8lawrence (10:20:43 PM): Awohali dying incriminates Jenny somewhat
spies8cinnamyn (10:20:50 PM): o sorry i wuz talkin' az a cit lmbo
spies8lawrence (10:20:58 PM): oh my bad
spies8lawrence (10:21:06 PM): Would you like to start this chat over as a Cit?
spies8cinnamyn (10:21:23 PM): itz fine.! i can do wuteva. i jus' ushually stick 2 cit chatz on aim
spies8lawrence (10:21:52 PM): I apologize, I am fairly new to the whole trying to hide my criminal activity business
spies8lawrence (10:22:05 PM): anyways RESTART
spies8lawrence (10:22:10 PM): Good evening Cinnamyn!
spies8cinnamyn (10:22:20 PM): whassup peachez
spies8cinnamyn (10:22:23 PM): how u doin 2nite
spies8lawrence (10:22:47 PM): I am doing quite well, yourself?
spies8cinnamyn (10:23:58 PM): im pritty gud
spies8cinnamyn (10:24:05 PM): i wun applez 2 applez earlier so im on a high
spies8lawrence (10:24:30 PM): Apples to Apples is an extraordinary game!
spies8lawrence (10:24:37 PM): Was it played in chat?
spies8cinnamyn (10:25:24 PM): ah no i got dragged in2 it at my hizzouse
spies8cinnamyn (10:25:28 PM): saturday nite shiz
spies8cinnamyn (10:25:32 PM): drunken applez 2 applez.!
spies8lawrence (10:25:50 PM): Intoxication would increase the hilarity of the game, by far.
spies8lawrence (10:26:05 PM): Anyways, on more game-related matters, that is a fairly convincing case you have made
spies8cinnamyn (10:26:24 PM): i try lmbo
spies8cinnamyn (10:26:31 PM): ive been bizzee lately so i aint had tyme 2 post a lot
spies8cinnamyn (10:26:35 PM): but i want 2 nowadayz
spies8lawrence (10:27:22 PM): Are there any other members of the Burg you suspect to be criminals?
spies8cinnamyn (10:28:40 PM): well obv awohali lmbo
spies8cinnamyn (10:28:49 PM): i also think he cud b a spy wit' jenny despite dem goin' at it
spies8lawrence (10:28:51 PM): Yes, but besides him
spies8lawrence (10:28:55 PM): Ah, I see
spies8lawrence (10:29:17 PM): I do agree that Jenny looks somewhat suspect, but I think there are bigger fish to fry at the moment
spies8cinnamyn (10:29:44 PM): lyke who.?
spies8lawrence (10:29:53 PM): I agree with Awohali
spies8lawrence (10:30:00 PM): But I am also suspicious of Dane
spies8lawrence (10:30:13 PM): And I would like to look into Claude
spies8cinnamyn (10:31:58 PM): y dane.? tha reazinz u posted in da thred.?
spies8cinnamyn (10:31:59 PM): i am assumin
spies8lawrence (10:32:44 PM): Yes, and Stephanie has mentioned another point to me that I would like some answers for
spies8cinnamyn (10:33:53 PM): and y claude now.?
spies8lawrence (10:34:26 PM): As I mentioned in chat, the role seems more beneficial to the criminals than to the Citizens
spies8lawrence (10:34:37 PM): As does the way it was used last round
spies8cinnamyn (10:35:03 PM): he wuz a big component in izaac gettin' exiled
spies8lawrence (10:35:26 PM): But did he not defend Magalie?
spies8cinnamyn (10:35:33 PM): yea
spies8cinnamyn (10:35:35 PM): really bad
spies8cinnamyn (10:35:45 PM): but i dont no y a spy wud bus izaac and defend magalie, lmb
spies8cinnamyn (10:35:46 PM): o
spies8lawrence (10:35:53 PM): If I recall, Jasmine was the original player to bring Isaac's name into the line of suspicion
spies8lawrence (10:36:08 PM): Cinnamyn, I do believe your above statement could be classified as wifom
spies8lawrence (10:36:37 PM): An adept Spy may take the illogical action in order to gain massive Citizen points
spies8lawrence (10:36:56 PM): And I do not believe Claude is a greenhorn in the game of mafia
spies8cinnamyn (10:38:01 PM): yea it cud but still, cuz magalie wuz fucktarded
spies8lawrence (10:38:39 PM): Then the Spies would obviously consider her a liability . . . so the Citizens in turn would look for a bus
spies8cinnamyn (10:39:15 PM): i am also inclined 2 think dat he and chance r both citz or spiez
spies8cinnamyn (10:39:22 PM): bcuz i dont c y it wud b 1/1
spies8cinnamyn (10:39:39 PM): dey have made it so "me vs. him" dat if we exiled 1 az a cit, we wud turn on tha other 1
spies8cinnamyn (10:39:47 PM): and since dey fightin' started round 2, i dont no y a spy wud take dat chance

[Lawrence]

spies8

spies8lawrence (5:32:17 PM): I am quite glad to see that we are discussing things
spies8lawrence (5:32:33 PM): (Am I using the technique of sarcasm properly? You youngsters need to teach me how)
spies8claude (5:42:59 PM): smirk
spies8lawrence (5:43:26 PM): I have learned lessons about the new youth during this game
spies8lawrence (5:43:34 PM): Sarcasm, vulgarity, and now smirking are common place
spies8claude (5:44:02 PM): I bet you're barely older than me.
spies8lawrence (5:51:42 PM): (Frankly, I have no idea . . . it's infuriating not creating your own character)
spies8lawrence (5:51:59 PM): Oh ho ho ho! How old are you, Claude?
spies8lawrence (5:57:00 PM): Claude, are you still here?
spies8claude (5:57:18 PM): Yeah.
spies8claude (5:57:23 PM): 31
spies8lawrence (5:57:37 PM): (I will check my characters age while you answer this.)
spies8lawrence (5:57:46 PM): Who do you plan on voting at this Exile?
spies8claude (5:57:56 PM): Chance?
spies8lawrence (5:58:43 PM): . . . I feel quite stupid now.
spies8lawrence (5:58:59 PM): I noticed that the Senators were not posting their votes in the Burg, so I was going to question them about it.
spies8lawrence (5:59:09 PM): I forgot that you are dead set on Chance.
spies8lawrence (5:59:15 PM): Mary, are you here?
spies8lawrence (6:00:45 PM): I assume not
spies8jenny (7:39:06 PM): Hi Lawry!
spies8lawrence (7:39:16 PM): Hello my dear Jenny
spies8lawrence (7:53:53 PM): Good evening my dear Jasmine
spies8jasmine (7:57:32 PM): Hello Lawrence
spies8jasmine (7:57:34 PM): How are you my man?
spies8lawrence (7:57:50 PM): Quite well, yourself?
spies8jasmine (7:58:32 PM): Pretty good! Who are you suspecting thus far, Lawrence?
spies8lawrence (8:00:24 PM): Sorry, I was preparing a snack
spies8lawrence (8:00:40 PM): I will tell you what I just told Stephanie
spies8lawrence (8:00:53 PM): In fact, to ease the strain on my fingers, I will copy and paste
spies8lawrence (8:01:07 PM): Dane, based on reasons I've already put forth (although his attitude may have colored my vision).
Claude, based on the role and how it was used last round.
And one of Awohali and Jenny
Both look shady to me, somewhat
However, I do not think that both of them are Spies together
spies8jasmine (8:02:01 PM): Awesome. Did Claude every explain why he didn't use his role last round?
spies8jasmine (8:02:08 PM): "I didn't have anyone good to use it on" was all i saw
spies8jasmine (8:02:10 PM): in a conversation he had
spies8lawrence (8:02:19 PM): I thought he did use his role last round?
spies8jasmine (8:02:28 PM): Oh? I thought he fogot to use it?
spies8stephanie (8:02:29 PM): he told me he forgot
spies8jenny (8:02:35 PM): That's for this episode.
spies8lawrence (8:02:35 PM): To limit Owen to Zedekiah, Kiara, and Chance?
spies8jenny (8:02:41 PM): Last round he used it on Owen.
spies8jasmine (8:02:49 PM): Gotcha.
spies8jenny (8:02:51 PM): That was episode 6.
spies8jenny (8:02:56 PM): Episode 7 he forgot.
spies8jasmine (8:03:53 PM): I'd like to know why he limited Owen last round
spies8jasmine (8:03:57 PM): the obvious citizen
spies8jasmine (8:04:04 PM): over someone who maybe wasn't so obvious, but on the senate.
spies8claude (8:04:10 PM): because I trusted him least of the 4 people in the senate.
spies8jenny (8:04:14 PM): He suspected Owen the most on the senate he said.
spies8claude (8:04:17 PM): And I still don't trust him that much.
spies8jasmine (8:04:25 PM): How can you not trust Owen?
spies8jasmine (8:04:31 PM): If he single handly took out Isaac.
spies8lawrence (8:04:31 PM): Who were the others on the Senate at that time?
spies8lawrence (8:04:50 PM): I find it very hard to distrust Owen after the Isaac Exile
spies8stephanie (8:04:52 PM): tina, mary, cinn?
spies8jasmine (8:05:10 PM): I don't see how anyone can suspect Owen
spies8jasmine (8:05:18 PM): over so many other people, or even distrust him the msot on the senate.
spies8jasmine (8:05:25 PM): Over Cinnamyn?
spies8jasmine (8:05:29 PM): I trust cinnamyn mostly
spies8jasmine (8:05:33 PM): but i still trust owen wayyy more.
spies8lawrence (8:06:09 PM): It seems that out of the four, Cinnamyn or Mary are less trust worthy than Owen and Tina
spies8jasmine (8:06:57 PM): I just think if Claude is a citizen, whcih he claims his he is--obviously, and he has a PR. we should try and make it so we can figure out what is best with his role as a group. Owen getting slammed with voting only 3 options, when 90% of us think he is a automatic citizen..its just not cooll. I think we gotta voice wat we think he should do with the power.
spies8jasmine (8:07:30 PM): prolly more our faults then him, but i just think that seems Bullshitty, that owen had to pick between the three.
spies8lawrence (8:07:39 PM): I believe the Dictator's name was Owen, not Claude
spies8jasmine (8:08:04 PM): but then claude can argue nobody is around enough to even help him with his role, because we all suck and dont do anything.
spies8stephanie (8:08:26 PM): and he might have a point there
spies8jasmine (8:08:27 PM): but the people that are here, should at least try t contribute to it. i think its uber important we get something good out of it.
spies8lawrence (8:08:37 PM): I also believe he has a point there
spies8lawrence (8:08:58 PM): But honestly, for someone who is on AIM quite often, the level of conversation from him is very little
spies8jasmine (8:08:59 PM): yes but even if people arent, we do have people that are here. i dont think we should lessen our game because some people care to not contribute.
spies8jasmine (8:09:25 PM): if owen wasnt limited to those 3 people
spies8jasmine (8:09:30 PM): maybe he'd have considered voting someone else
spies8jasmine (8:09:36 PM): and maybe that would have saved zedeikiah
spies8lawrence (8:09:55 PM): Several people nominated solely to include all three of Owen's options in the nominations
spies8jasmine (8:09:57 PM): u just never know, him being limited to 3 options..bugs me.
spies8jasmine (8:10:04 PM): Did they?
spies8jasmine (8:10:13 PM): that is such bullshit
spies8lawrence (8:10:13 PM): At least that is how the nomination thread read to me
spies8jasmine (8:10:33 PM): I really wish Owen was on more, but even if he's not around..he is the most obvious citizen.
spies8lawrence (8:10:36 PM): We know for sure that Zedekiah was a Citizen, and that Kiara is most likely a Citizen due to her role claim
spies8lawrence (8:11:05 PM): Chance is the unknown factor
spies8jasmine (8:11:15 PM): And chance hasnt done much to make him suspcious lately.
spies8claude (8:11:39 PM): Yeah right.
spies8jasmine (8:11:46 PM): in my eyes
spies8jasmine (8:11:47 PM): he hasnt
spies8jasmine (8:11:51 PM): wat have u seen recently?
spies8claude (8:12:08 PM): Did you even read the conversation between him and myself that Jenny mediated?
spies8jenny (8:12:12 PM): I'll be back in a few, need to return the laptop for a few minutes.
spies8jasmine (8:12:28 PM): What episode #?
spies8claude (8:12:36 PM): 6
spies8jasmine (8:12:38 PM): I seen most of Eppy 6 convos
spies8jasmine (8:12:46 PM): k, do u know if it was early on or what?
spies8jasmine (8:12:56 PM): ill go skim for it.
spies8lawrence (8:13:01 PM): Evening Rondak
spies8rondak (8:13:07 PM): Hello
spies8stephanie (8:13:17 PM): hi b-rondak
spies8rondak (8:13:23 PM): Oh, right, tonight's the BB competition
spies8jasmine (8:13:28 PM): Hey ROndak
spies8stephanie (8:13:38 PM): BB?
spies8rondak (8:13:39 PM): Hi
spies8rondak (8:13:41 PM): Big Brother
spies8lawrence (8:13:47 PM): Rondak - Who do you plan to cast your Senate vote for?
spies8lawrence (8:14:02 PM): I know you are newly inducted, but surely you have some suspicions
spies8jasmine (8:14:10 PM): is it the 2nd conversation in, Claude?
spies8jasmine (8:14:38 PM): i didnt see this spat as that bad, but i can look again
spies8rondak (8:14:53 PM): hmmm well, my vote is still swinging
spies8rondak (8:15:00 PM): I've changed a couple of times already
spies8jasmine (8:15:01 PM): between?
spies8lawrence (8:15:06 PM): I do believe I will read these conversations.
spies8rondak (8:15:11 PM): The pressure of this responsibility is getting to my nerves.
spies8lawrence (8:15:12 PM): And I echo Jasmine's question
spies8rondak (8:15:32 PM): Chance, Cinammyn, and Claude
spies8rondak (8:15:42 PM): And I just noticed that they're all with C
spies8lawrence (8:15:47 PM): Are you biased against the letter C?
spies8jasmine (8:15:47 PM): So you don't agree with people wanting awohali to be voted for?
spies8rondak (8:16:11 PM): I really don't get any vibe on him
spies8jasmine (8:16:31 PM): have u spoke to him yet, or just in the two threads?
spies8rondak (8:16:41 PM): I've had one or two chats with him
spies8jasmine (8:17:24 PM): voted magalie round 2 wen it wuz clear she wuznt goin'. voted magalie round 3 wen it wuz clear she wuz gonna b da dem nominee. wen it came 2 round 4, he dropped hiz suspishin of her and continued 2 back off round 5 wen she wuz in real danger.
spies8jasmine (8:17:26 PM): how about this?
spies8lawrence (8:17:30 PM): Are your reasonings for these votes based solely on the cases posted in the Burg, or do you have additional points to add?
spies8jasmine (8:17:40 PM): to me, that is whats most suspcious out of the entire setup against him.
spies8lawrence (8:17:45 PM): And if so, why those three cases over Awohali?
spies8jasmine (8:18:36 PM): I tried to push for Magalie over Margot. People such as yourself were not having that. I find it funny that in a round in which you voted for a Citizen over the Spy, you are criticizing me for voting the Spy over the Citizen.
spies8rondak (8:18:41 PM): hmm
spies8jasmine (8:18:49 PM): I find that suspcious, based on the fact that he knew Magalie wasnt leaving
spies8jasmine (8:18:57 PM): so as a spy, he coul deasily vote magalie without her leaving
spies8jasmine (8:19:00 PM): looking for citizen, now.
spies8rondak (8:19:51 PM): As I've stated, I'm plying mostly on gut instinct, until I gather enough info to make a good case
spies8rondak (8:19:55 PM): playing*
spies8rondak (8:20:23 PM): But yeah, the cases on the burg are having an effect on my decision
spies8jasmine (8:21:17 PM): Anyone here currently planning on voting for Awohali?
spies8lawrence (8:21:50 PM): Dane, Stephanie and I have a question for you
spies8claude (8:22:05 PM): Dane isn't in here?
spies8stephanie (8:22:09 PM): dane's not here
spies8lawrence (8:22:13 PM): Oh
spies8lawrence (8:22:15 PM): I invited him
spies8lawrence (8:22:26 PM): And misread the message as "spies8dane has entered the room"
spies8claude (8:25:10 PM): ah heh
spies8lawrence (8:25:46 PM): He is back
spies8jasmine (8:26:19 PM): Question for me?
spies8jasmine (8:26:19 PM): Or?
spies8dane (8:26:41 PM): fyi: my internet is going off and on
spies8lawrence (8:27:11 PM): While you are here
spies8dane (8:27:32 PM): yay, misinterpretation time
spies8lawrence (8:27:37 PM): Stephanie told me an interesting point that I would like to ask you about
spies8lawrence (8:28:03 PM): She claims, that the morning before the last nominations were due (episode 6)
spies8lawrence (8:28:25 PM): You IM'd her asking if you should nominate Zedekiah or Kiara
spies8lawrence (8:28:35 PM): She said Kiara, yet you nominated Zedekiah
spies8lawrence (8:28:39 PM): She didn't think much of it at the time
spies8lawrence (8:28:49 PM): Because you two don't really get along
spies8lawrence (8:28:57 PM): However, later she spoke to Cory
spies8lawrence (8:29:14 PM): Who said he told you to nominate Kiara as well
spies8lawrence (8:29:23 PM): Why did you vote against the advice of both of them?
spies8jasmine (8:30:20 PM): interesting
spies8lawrence (8:31:58 PM): I am glad to be enlighted by his answer
spies8lawrence (8:32:12 PM): It has thrust my view of him into a whole new light
spies8lawrence (8:32:20 PM): *enlightened, excuse me
spies8jasmine (8:33:38 PM): Thing is.
spies8jasmine (8:33:45 PM): The only way you can think he's a spy based on that
spies8jasmine (8:33:48 PM): is if you think kiara is a spy
spies8jasmine (8:33:53 PM): because then he would avoid voting for a fellow spy
spies8jasmine (8:33:59 PM): and jenny said this to me earlier:
spies8jasmine (8:34:00 PM): [13:33] spies8jenny: I was actually talking about this role stuff with someone else earlier. I was looking at the last game since we had the same number of spies as then, nearly the same number of players (32 then 30 now) and a third party role in both. Made sense to compare the number of roles in each.

Last time there were 3 spy roles, and 6 cit roles along with a third party.

This time we've found out about 3 spy roles (Lexi, Isaac, Spy Messenger), a third party role, and then 6 other roles. (Doctor, Al, Savanny, Claude, Kitty, and Exile Blocker)

So far it seems to fit the bill there. Could be slightly different, but since I'd think 4 out of 7 spies having roles is pushing it anyways, for the time being I'm thinking Claude, Kitty, and mysterious exile blocker person are cits for now.
spies8jasmine (8:34:07 PM): Which makes me think Kiara is more likely not a spy.
spies8lawrence (8:34:12 PM): Good evening Chance
spies8jasmine (8:34:17 PM): But maybe we shouldnt look at the previous seasons?
spies8jasmine (8:34:23 PM): I know Chance said in the past it was dumb to do this.
spies8lawrence (8:34:46 PM): I do not think that Kiara is a criminal right now
spies8lawrence (8:35:00 PM): However, I do think the unexplained ignorance of advice is
spies8jasmine (8:35:03 PM): Then why is Dane swapping from kiara to zed suspcious for u?
spies8lawrence (8:35:07 PM): And I would like an explanation
spies8jasmine (8:35:08 PM): Oh okay.
spies8lawrence (8:35:14 PM): *is strange
spies8jasmine (8:35:23 PM): It is odd that he signed off instead of getting you an answer
spies8jasmine (8:35:25 PM):
spies8stephanie (8:35:32 PM): i agree, i just would like to hear the answer
spies8lawrence (8:35:36 PM): No it is not
spies8lawrence (8:35:42 PM): He IM'd me asking to invite me back
spies8lawrence (8:35:44 PM): The request failed
spies8lawrence (8:35:47 PM): He told me this:
spies8jasmine (8:35:53 PM): o
spies8lawrence (8:35:53 PM): i don't think my internet is strong enough
I will use someone else as my proxy

spies8jasmine (8:36:04 PM): thats fun
spies8lawrence (8:36:51 PM): We now have 10/16 players online
spies8lawrence (8:36:56 PM): Quite outstanding
spies8jasmine (8:37:01 PM): Yes it is.
spies8jasmine (8:37:06 PM): Hello Chance.
spies8jasmine (8:37:12 PM): Are you still bisexual?
spies8lawrence (8:37:25 PM): Good evening Chance
spies8chance (8:37:25 PM): of course.
spies8chance (8:37:27 PM): hi lawrence.
spies8lawrence (8:37:46 PM): Pop quiz: You have just earned a Senate vote. How are you going to use it?
spies8jasmine (8:37:46 PM): Well taking a break has changed so much for me, when coming back. One is my attracation to bisexual men.
spies8jasmine (8:37:48 PM): I think your hot.
spies8lawrence (8:37:49 PM): Show your work.
spies8chance (8:38:09 PM): to exile someone i think is a spy, lawrence.
spies8jasmine (8:38:13 PM): At the moment, I'd vot either Awohali. Broderick. Claude.
spies8jasmine (8:38:17 PM): One of those three.
spies8lawrence (8:38:17 PM): Clever
spies8lawrence (8:38:22 PM): Jasmine - It was directed at Chance
spies8jasmine (8:38:25 PM): oh
spies8jasmine (8:38:26 PM):
spies8lawrence (8:38:26 PM): However, could you be more specific?
spies8lawrence (8:38:35 PM): Chance, not Jasmine
spies8chance (8:38:39 PM): i.e. who am i voting for?
spies8jasmine (8:38:39 PM): oh
spies8jasmine (8:38:45 PM): i was about to explain too.
spies8jasmine (8:38:45 PM):
spies8lawrence (8:38:56 PM): Basically . . . the question itself is cliche though, I thought I would liven it up
spies8jasmine (8:39:08 PM): so cleever, old man
spies8chance (8:39:10 PM): right now it's awohali. probably will be unless something drastic happens in the next day or so.
spies8lawrence (8:40:35 PM): Pardon me if this is outdated information, but I remember you quite strongly believing that Claude was a criminal
spies8lawrence (8:40:47 PM): Did I miss a post where you changed your mind, or is it still that way?
spies8chance (8:40:48 PM): i did, yes.
spies8chance (8:41:21 PM): i don't think i ever posted specifically that i was dropping my claude suspicion, but i stopped being ironclad-sure he was a spy after the isaac exile.
spies8chance (8:41:53 PM): however, there are a lot of roles floating about, it seems to me, and out of all of them i think claude's is the most useful to the spies. so i really am unsure. neutral/leaning cit for claude.
spies8lawrence (8:42:23 PM): Fair enough
spies8jasmine (8:42:26 PM): What do you think of his sudden change of personality, Chance?
spies8chance (8:43:02 PM): simple. he married gertrude.
spies8chance (8:43:02 PM):
spies8jasmine (8:43:13 PM): Did I miss this
spies8jasmine (8:43:14 PM): ?
spies8jasmine (8:43:15 PM): When?
spies8lawrence (8:43:19 PM): Marriage - the fatal sin
spies8gertrude (8:43:22 PM): I am back.
spies8jasmine (8:43:28 PM): right on cue
spies8chance (8:43:31 PM): oh, yeah, they're married with a kid.
spies8chance (8:43:35 PM): elizabeth 2.0.
spies8lawrence (8:43:39 PM): Gertrude and Claude are trying to be the next Vladimir and Cassidy, I believe.
spies8jasmine (8:43:46 PM): I dont know who those peole are.
spies8lawrence (8:43:53 PM): However, be careful . . . the husband in that relationship was a criminal.
spies8jasmine (8:43:55 PM): but
spies8gertrude (8:43:59 PM): I will not be compared to Cassidy.
spies8jasmine (8:44:00 PM): id assume they r failing
spies8lawrence (8:44:03 PM): (Past Spies reference, I apologize)
spies8chance (8:44:09 PM): happens a lot, larry.
spies8chance (8:44:11 PM):
spies8chance (8:44:18 PM): and yeah, gertie's not a total bitchite.
spies8gertrude (8:44:21 PM): In fact, I officially hate you now, Lawrence.
spies8gertrude (8:44:27 PM): For even insinuating that.
spies8lawrence (8:44:37 PM): But Gertrude! My dear! We discussed Big Brother!
spies8chance (8:44:41 PM): protip - gertie doesn't like cassidy.
spies8jasmine (8:44:48 PM): Gertrude, who do you plan on voting for right now?
spies8jasmine (8:44:51 PM): to exile.
spies8lawrence (8:45:00 PM): Now Gertrude will behind a Lawrence lynch
spies8lawrence (8:45:05 PM): And I just started playing
spies8lawrence (8:45:06 PM): Sad day
spies8gertrude (8:45:09 PM): Yes, definitely.
spies8chance (8:45:11 PM): oh look, another past spies reference.
spies8lawrence (8:45:12 PM): (Yes, I just had to throw that in there)
spies8chance (8:45:15 PM):
spies8lawrence (8:45:23 PM): I should really stop
spies8chance (8:45:24 PM): jasmine, what do you think of rondak?
spies8gertrude (8:45:29 PM): I didn't get that one.
spies8chance (8:45:40 PM): 'darla will be behind a carly lynch'
spies8chance (8:45:41 PM): anyway.
spies8jasmine (8:45:57 PM): Haven't had the chance to talk to him much other then today. but he seems really inconsistent, let me show u examples.
spies8lawrence (8:45:58 PM): In Spies 5, a Spy typed "Darla will be behind a Carly lynch" into the wrong chat box, effectively identifying himself as a Spy
spies8lawrence (8:46:12 PM): He was promptly Exiled
spies8gertrude (8:46:24 PM): Ah.
spies8jasmine (8:46:40 PM): spies8mary 4:00 pm
(4:00:45 PM): I just talked with Rondak.

(4:00:49 PM): What do you think of him?


(4:00:57 PM): I asked him his suspects a few minutes ago.

spies8jasmine (8:46:42 PM): spies8mary 4:01 pm
(4:01:12 PM): [15:02] spies8rondak: If I had to pick with just gut feeling...
[15:03] spies8rondak: I would say
[15:03] spies8rondak: Chance, Claude, Jenny and Gertrude
[15:03] spies8rondak: but that's just blindly guessing


(4:01:32 PM): And just now in group chat he said Cinnamyn is his #1.


(4:01:47 PM): Which is weird because I just told him Cinnamyn and Jenny were my top two.


(4:01:53 PM): So I think he changed to my suspects.
spies8jasmine 4:01 pm
(4:01:55 PM): So he's bandwagoning?
spies8chance (8:47:15 PM): hell yes he's bandwagoning. heh.
spies8gertrude (8:47:17 PM): To actually answer your question, Jasmine, I'm honestly not sure at this point. I'm leaning towards Dane or Awohali though. Also, excuse me. Elizabeth.0 is crying.
spies8jasmine (8:47:17 PM): spies8jasmine 4:05 pm
(4:05:30 PM): spies8rondak 4:02 pm
(4:02:03 PM): I agree with your reasoning on Claude vs Chance
spies8jasmine 4:02 pm
(4:02:43 PM): You'd like to see one of their alignments as well?

spies8jasmine 4:05 pm
(4:05:04 PM): Oh.
spies8jasmine (8:47:19 PM): spies8rondak is available 4:02 pm
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(4:05:30 PM): spies8rondak 4:04 pm
(4:04:43 PM): yes

(4:05:01 PM): I was actually targeting Chance for that reason last episode
spies8chance (8:47:21 PM): i could have told you that one though.
spies8jasmine (8:47:40 PM): Seems like he is a bit all over the place.
spies8rondak (8:47:55 PM): I am
spies8jasmine (8:48:00 PM): I don't really understand why people are thinking of lynching Dane. But I do understand the Awohali things.
spies8chance (8:48:01 PM): interesting, that. considering he kept saying 'oh i'm going with my gut + past rondak suspicion'
spies8lawrence (8:48:30 PM): I do admit, my suspicion of Dane may be colored by his antagonistic attitude in chat
spies8jasmine (8:49:04 PM): Sure that isn't Broderick??
spies8lawrence (8:49:20 PM): Jasmine, I believe you and Broderick have real chemistry
spies8jasmine (8:49:31 PM): Yea right.
spies8lawrence (8:49:40 PM): Once you literally hide the salami, I believe you two could be quite the couple
spies8lawrence (8:49:45 PM): I already have a name - Jazzerick
spies8jasmine (8:49:49 PM): ..
spies8chance (8:49:58 PM): and they can do jazzercise!
spies8lawrence (8:50:07 PM): Oh ho ho ho!
spies8lawrence (8:50:10 PM): The references keep on coming
spies8jasmine (8:50:17 PM): ho ho ho? are you santa clause lawrence?
spies8chance (8:50:18 PM):
spies8lawrence (8:50:30 PM): No . . . that would be Iris
spies8lawrence (8:50:35 PM): Ok, I really need to stop
spies8lawrence (8:50:48 PM): From now on, I will not reference past games
spies8chance (8:50:57 PM): sure you won't. it's too much fun.
spies8lawrence (8:51:01 PM): Chance, do not encourage me
spies8chance (8:51:04 PM): why not?
spies8chance (8:51:41 PM): aren't we about due for another challenge?
spies8stephanie (8:51:52 PM): chance, did you ever answer the question of who you were voting?
spies8lawrence (8:51:57 PM): I would enjoy another challenge
spies8chance (8:52:06 PM): yeah, steph.
spies8lawrence (8:52:06 PM): The puzzle race seemed rather entertaining, unfortunately I was not around for it
spies8chance (8:52:09 PM): awohali.
spies8stephanie (8:52:34 PM): oh thanks , i do see it now
spies8stephanie (8:53:08 PM): and gert?
spies8stephanie (8:53:36 PM): oh wait i see that too
spies8jasmine (8:53:40 PM): ugh my font
spies8jasmine (8:53:41 PM): is ruined
spies8jasmine (8:53:42 PM): there
spies8lawrence (8:54:02 PM): Do not worry, I believe you had already done a fine job of ruining it before you copied Cinnamyn's post
spies8jasmine (8:55:02 PM): I don't even know how to comment on that
spies8jasmine (8:55:04 PM): ANyways
spies8jasmine (8:55:12 PM): I'd be okay with an awohali exile, atm.
spies8jasmine (8:55:20 PM): But i think seeing Claude's role might be more revealing
spies8lawrence (8:55:38 PM): Do you mean his alignment?
spies8claude (8:55:39 PM): You wouldn't learn anything.
spies8jasmine (8:56:31 PM): Yes his alignment.
spies8jasmine (8:56:40 PM): If he's a spy, I think it makes Chance a citizen.
spies8jasmine (8:56:47 PM): if he's a citizen
spies8jasmine (8:56:56 PM): i think chance would be suspect for being on claude's case for so long
spies8jasmine (8:57:01 PM): and then we'd know another role is a cit role
spies8jasmine (8:57:07 PM): maybe Kiara's role look more spyish, imo.
spies8jasmine (8:57:28 PM): making*
spies8lawrence (8:58:06 PM): Lining up lynches is not a winning strategy
spies8jasmine (8:58:46 PM): No. but we would learn stuff.
spies8jasmine (8:58:51 PM): so he cant say we wouldnt.
spies8claude (8:59:05 PM): Either A)you believe that Kiara is telling the truth about how her role works, which means she cannot be a spy.
spies8lawrence (8:59:07 PM): Good evening Awohali
spies8claude (8:59:10 PM): Or B)You think she made up the guessing part.
Spies8Awohali (8:59:15 PM): Osiyo, everyone.
spies8lawrence (8:59:23 PM): Claude
spies8lawrence (8:59:28 PM): I have a problem with that
spies8lawrence (8:59:37 PM): Either A)you believe that Kiara is telling the truth about how her role works, which means she cannot be a spy.
spies8lawrence (8:59:49 PM): Her role and her alignment are separate things
spies8claude (8:59:54 PM): Not in this case.
spies8lawrence (8:59:58 PM): How so?
spies8claude (9:00:04 PM): She is not a spy with the ability to 'guess' a person's alignment to get a second role use.
spies8chance (9:00:14 PM): because spies wouldn't have to guess alignments.
spies8lawrence (9:00:19 PM): Oh
spies8chance (9:00:21 PM): they'd get every one right.
spies8lawrence (9:00:21 PM): Correct
spies8chance (9:00:23 PM): except for possibly nita.
spies8jasmine (9:00:32 PM): the entire thing could be made up though.
spies8lawrence (9:00:36 PM): Sorry, I was merely thinking about the graveyard checking aspect of the role
spies8lawrence (9:00:46 PM): Not the prerequisite for receiving the ability
spies8chance (9:00:48 PM): which is another thing - she's able to guess 'neither'. i don't think she made that up.
Spies8Awohali (9:01:06 PM): Why do you not think that she made that up, Chance?
spies8chance (9:01:33 PM): i just don't. also, the situation with the isaac-theory.
Spies8Awohali (9:01:53 PM): It is not like she is unaware of a third party having been eliminated...
Spies8Awohali (9:02:23 PM): I imagine if she made the role up, she would certainly include something to cover for that, so I do not see how that would be a selling point of the role being legit.
spies8claude (9:02:37 PM): It doesn't seem like something that you think of on the spur of the moment.
spies8stephanie (9:02:59 PM): what makes you think it was spur of the moment?
Spies8Awohali (9:03:02 PM): I doubt that the claim was made on the spur of the moment, anyway, whether it is a true claim or a false one.
spies8chance (9:03:44 PM): that's not a bad point, but still.
spies8chance (9:04:15 PM): the fact that she specifically said her theory on isaac was just a theory at the time she posted it, rather than making her story so that her role was the reason she put the theory up in the first place, makes me think she's a citizen.
spies8lawrence (9:04:46 PM): Good point
spies8chance (9:06:23 PM): jasmine, is rondak one of your suspects?
spies8chance (9:06:29 PM): like, in your top three?
spies8jasmine (9:08:39 PM): No
spies8jasmine (9:08:44 PM): but i'd say he's a close fourth or fifth.
spies8jasmine (9:08:50 PM): my top three is broderick, claude, and awohali
spies8jasmine (9:08:54 PM): at the moment.
spies8chance (9:08:59 PM): okay.
Spies8Awohali (9:09:06 PM): I am interested to hear why the three of us.
spies8jasmine (9:09:07 PM): but im back and forth thinking brod and claude might have been there because of them being fed up with lack of particpation
spies8lawrence (9:09:27 PM): Are you suspicious of Broderick only because you two don't get along, or is there a deeper reasoning?
spies8stephanie (9:09:38 PM): does anyone know who kiara is using her role on this time?
spies8chance (9:09:59 PM): i believe the last two people she checked were zedekiah and camilla, when i asked her last.
spies8chance (9:10:13 PM): but i dunno about this time.
spies8chance (9:10:39 PM): claude, who did you use your role on, anyway?
spies8jasmine (9:11:03 PM): Broderick kind of goes in the same catgeory as claude for me, that he just seems different now
spies8jasmine (9:11:08 PM): but the way broderick argues has always bugged me
Spies8Awohali (9:13:27 PM): So you are suspicious of Broderick because of the way he argues?
spies8claude (9:13:30 PM): I forgot to use it
spies8claude (9:13:37 PM): didn't really realize it was nomination time already, shrug
spies8claude (9:13:48 PM): hence why I also forgot to submit my conversations.
spies8chance (9:13:54 PM): okay, understandable. i missed conversations too.
spies8lawrence (9:14:00 PM): Why do you seem to have such a lack of interest in the game?
spies8stephanie (9:14:09 PM): it was quick
spies8lawrence (9:14:32 PM): It just seems as though . . . you have a role, you are on the Senate . . . you should be more interested in discussing things
spies8claude (9:15:21 PM): yeah well
spies8jasmine (9:18:39 PM): He's mad people aren't as into the game, which is fine. but you shouldnt then be not into it.
spies8jasmine (9:18:42 PM): It doesn't help any.
spies8jasmine (9:18:54 PM): just makes u look like shit
Spies8Awohali (9:19:08 PM): So, Jasmine, you suspect Broderick because of mhow he argues? I asked this earlier but it has gone unnoticed.
spies8lawrence (9:19:09 PM): Is that directed at myself or Claude?
spies8jasmine (9:20:33 PM): Claude
spies8jasmine (9:20:33 PM): and no
spies8jasmine (9:20:37 PM): that isnt the only reason i suspect him
spies8jasmine (9:20:41 PM): he has shown to be an ass
spies8jasmine (9:20:46 PM): let me link u to an example
spies8jasmine (9:21:00 PM): spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=1290
Spies8Awohali (9:21:03 PM): Is there anything besides his demeanor that makes you suspect him?
spies8jasmine (9:21:04 PM): the bit in the first post.
spies8jasmine (9:21:10 PM): he's changed from how he use to be
spies8jasmine (9:21:21 PM): Nothing solid, no.
spies8jasmine (9:21:29 PM): But he fits in with Claude, with suddently thinkign this game stinks
spies8jasmine (9:21:41 PM): And I think it could easily be a cover up to not particapate as much
spies8jasmine (9:22:04 PM): I'm more set on thinking CLaude is a spy
spies8jasmine (9:22:06 PM): then Broderick
spies8jasmine (9:22:08 PM): to be fair
Spies8Awohali (9:22:09 PM): That is a possible theory, if they begin to lack in participation significantly.
Spies8Awohali (9:22:18 PM): And what about me?
spies8jasmine (9:24:02 PM): There was one part of the claim against u that stuck out for me, let me find it
spies8jasmine (9:24:12 PM): but its the main reason i wouldnt be against you being exiled.
spies8lawrence (9:24:17 PM): The new leaderboard is quite humorous
spies8jasmine (9:24:37 PM): voted magalie round 2 wen it wuz clear she wuznt goin'. voted magalie round 3 wen it wuz clear she wuz gonna b da dem nominee. wen it came 2 round 4, he dropped hiz suspishin of her and continued 2 back off round 5 wen she wuz in real danger.

spies8jasmine (9:24:44 PM): that part.
spies8jasmine (9:24:56 PM): lol
spies8jasmine (9:24:58 PM): allan's pciture
Spies8Awohali (9:25:00 PM): Ah, the part where I voted for a Spy twice. I can see why that is suspicious.
spies8jasmine (9:25:01 PM): "33.88"
spies8jasmine (9:25:10 PM): It's suspcious because she wasnt getting exiled either time.
spies8chance (9:25:14 PM): voted for a spy when she wasn't going to be exiled.
spies8jasmine (9:25:15 PM): Yet u voted her
spies8jasmine (9:25:27 PM): most likely to look like your a cit at a time like this
Spies8Awohali (9:25:32 PM): So I should refrain from voting for Spies unless I know they are getting exiled?
spies8jasmine (9:25:41 PM): What?
spies8jasmine (9:25:46 PM): I don't understand what you just said
Spies8Awohali (9:26:00 PM): You say it is suspicious that I voted for Magalie when she was not getting Exiled.
spies8jasmine (9:26:09 PM): yees
spies8jasmine (9:26:16 PM): because now you can point ot it
spies8jasmine (9:26:21 PM): and say"look i voted for a spy in the past"
spies8jasmine (9:26:22 PM): its suspcious
spies8jasmine (9:26:26 PM): because she wasnt leaving taht round
spies8jasmine (9:26:29 PM): those rounds*
Spies8Awohali (9:26:41 PM): And I was supposed to know that she was not leaving?
spies8jasmine (9:26:47 PM): it was obvious she wasnt
spies8jasmine (9:27:05 PM): MARGOT (5): Magalie, Gertrude, Lawrence, Jasmine, Cinnamyn
MAGALIE (2): Awohali, Mary
spies8chance (9:27:26 PM): exile three, the republicans had control. pretty safe bet to vote her there, considering.
Spies8Awohali (9:27:32 PM): You were a part of that Exile, you should know that it qas a haphazard one.
spies8jasmine (9:27:33 PM): MAGALIE (4): Chance, Jenny, Tina, Zedekiah
CHANCE (4): Awohali, Broderick, Claude, Stephanie
spies8jasmine (9:27:49 PM): u nominated her there
spies8jasmine (9:27:52 PM): and the round before it
Spies8Awohali (9:27:56 PM): I disagree, Chance, I had no contact with the Republicans and therefore had no idea if they were truly set on Exiling their target.
spies8jasmine (9:28:13 PM): you nominated her twice
spies8jasmine (9:28:14 PM): voted her onc
spies8jasmine (9:28:15 PM): once*
spies8jasmine (9:28:20 PM): to be exiled
Spies8Awohali (9:28:31 PM): Right, I cast votes for her multiple times, and that is somehow bad?
spies8jasmine (9:28:36 PM): I think though, cinnamyn is saying u laid off her when she was in danger
spies8jasmine (9:28:45 PM): like when she was getting exiled
spies8jasmine (9:28:50 PM): you didnt fight for it as much as u did in the past
spies8jasmine (9:28:53 PM): you quickly laid off her
Spies8Awohali (9:28:54 PM): I did not lay off of her. I still suspected her and supported the idea of nominating her that episode.
spies8jasmine (9:28:55 PM): which is true
spies8jasmine (9:29:17 PM): i, personally, didnt see as much postage during it then i did in the past
Spies8Awohali (9:29:23 PM): You were on vacation.
spies8jasmine (9:29:23 PM): however i was not around for the chatrooms
spies8jasmine (9:29:28 PM): yes i was on vacaton
spies8jasmine (9:29:33 PM): and id appreciate that not being held agaisnt me
spies8jasmine (9:29:42 PM): but, im basing it on her post
spies8jasmine (9:29:44 PM): her claim on u being a spy
spies8jasmine (9:29:48 PM): and thats one of her reasons
spies8jasmine (9:29:50 PM): if its false
Spies8Awohali (9:29:51 PM): I do not hold it against you, I merely note that you were not around to see everything.
spies8jasmine (9:29:52 PM): then show me.
spies8jasmine (9:30:04 PM): how did u fight for magalie to go that maybe i didnt see?
spies8jasmine (9:30:21 PM): Hello Cinnamyn
Spies8Awohali (9:30:23 PM): You can see even in the forum nomination thread that I was supportive of her lynch.
Spies8Awohali (9:30:27 PM): Greetings, Cinnamyn.
spies8cinnamyn (9:30:30 PM): whassup bitchez
spies8chance (9:30:31 PM): 'sup cinn.
spies8jasmine (9:30:35 PM): my penis.
spies8jasmine (9:30:37 PM):
Spies8Awohali (9:30:46 PM): Has anyone been speaking with Jenny recently?
spies8jasmine (9:30:49 PM): Yes.
spies8jasmine (9:31:05 PM): she actually brought this up today
Spies8Awohali (9:31:05 PM): Within the last 15 minutes?
spies8jasmine (9:31:07 PM): which i found interesting
spies8jasmine (9:31:08 PM): [13:33] spies8jenny: I was actually talking about this role stuff with someone else earlier. I was looking at the last game since we had the same number of spies as then, nearly the same number of players (32 then 30 now) and a third party role in both. Made sense to compare the number of roles in each.

Last time there were 3 spy roles, and 6 cit roles along with a third party.

This time we've found out about 3 spy roles (Lexi, Isaac, Spy Messenger), a third party role, and then 6 other roles. (Doctor, Al, Savanny, Claude, Kitty, and Exile Blocker)

So far it seems to fit the bill there. Could be slightly different, but since I'd think 4 out of 7 spies having roles is pushing it anyways, for the time being I'm thinking Claude, Kitty, and mysterious exile blocker person are cits for now.
spies8jasmine (9:31:11 PM): 15 minutes? no.
spies8jasmine (9:31:20 PM): I'd like everyones thoughts actually
spies8jasmine (9:31:27 PM): do u think we should use past seasons to figure out this season?
Spies8Awohali (9:31:33 PM): Has anyone spoken with Jenny in the last 15 minutes?
spies8jasmine (9:31:35 PM): or should this be thrown out the windo.
spies8jasmine (9:31:38 PM): window*
Spies8Awohali (9:31:39 PM): I do not think that we should metagame at all.
spies8claude (9:31:46 PM): I think information from past season is relevant.
spies8jasmine (9:31:56 PM): is it because it makes u a cit though, claude?
spies8jasmine (9:31:57 PM):
Spies8Awohali (9:32:00 PM): Sam has proven that we can not possibly determine anything concrete from past games, so to do so is dangerous.
spies8lawrence (9:32:16 PM): Look at his wifom ploy with the Gift Giver
Spies8Awohali (9:32:24 PM): Exactly.
spies8chance (9:32:27 PM): and the dick tracy role.
spies8claude (9:32:27 PM): I have no idea what it means for me personally, so no, that's not it.
spies8cinnamyn (9:32:28 PM): jazmine do u believe kiaraz claim.?
spies8lawrence (9:32:36 PM): And the Dick Tracy role, Chance is correct
Spies8Awohali (9:32:55 PM): No role is bound to Citizenness or Spyness, nor is any percentage or number of roles ascribed to either team.
spies8lawrence (9:33:18 PM): Also keep in mind
spies8lawrence (9:33:23 PM): Jenny has something wrong
spies8jasmine (9:33:26 PM): I'm not sure about Kiara's claim
spies8lawrence (9:33:31 PM): Spies 7 featured 8 Spies, including Andreas
spies8jasmine (9:33:32 PM): i think it could be easily made up
spies8jasmine (9:33:39 PM): with someone with a role, she doesnt care a lot about the game
spies8jasmine (9:33:46 PM): she came in half way, so she should be ready to play
spies8jasmine (9:33:48 PM): and she has a role
spies8cinnamyn (9:33:53 PM): well bcuz usin' ur way of thinkin' u r believin' her claim. cuz u r believin' her sayin' da spiez had rolez
spies8cinnamyn (9:34:02 PM): dat were exiled
spies8jasmine (9:34:08 PM): I dont agree with jenny
spies8jasmine (9:34:12 PM): i wanted to know people's thoughts on it
spies8lawrence (9:34:15 PM): When did Cinnamyn get here?
spies8cinnamyn (9:34:15 PM): oooo she sed dat
spies8cinnamyn (9:34:16 PM): ok
spies8jasmine (9:34:18 PM): yep.
spies8cinnamyn (9:34:32 PM): less den 5 minutez ago lawrence
Spies8Awohali (9:34:38 PM): Jenny has not explained her mystery reason for suspecting me yet, has she?
spies8jasmine (9:34:50 PM): i dont think any reason against u is a mystery
spies8jasmine (9:34:52 PM): at this point
spies8jasmine (9:34:58 PM): the claims against u arent all that bullshitty
Spies8Awohali (9:34:58 PM): She has not answered my IMs, but I would very much like to hear them before the vote tomorrow.
Spies8Awohali (9:35:05 PM): I beg to differ.
Spies8Awohali (9:35:27 PM): "[13:01] spies8jenny: Well a lot of it has to do with how in recent episodes, he seems to have started taking lessons from Ricky and Claude. Find a player and then make it fit so that they're a spy, instead of the other way around. "
Spies8Awohali (9:35:32 PM): Where is the evidence for this claim?
spies8jasmine (9:35:41 PM): she explained that one to me
spies8jasmine (9:35:48 PM): all three of u have jumped on this"this game sucks" thing
spies8jasmine (9:35:56 PM): where because people have gone inactive/not as communicative
Spies8Awohali (9:35:56 PM): I have never said that this game sucks.
spies8jasmine (9:35:59 PM): you arent very happy people.
spies8jasmine (9:36:07 PM): no, but the way you were quesitoning people
spies8jasmine (9:36:16 PM): she was trying to show me how u werent the same
Spies8Awohali (9:36:18 PM): If you can provide any evidence of the claim you just made, I shall eat a roach.
spies8jasmine (9:36:19 PM): let me see if i can find wehre she said it
spies8cinnamyn (9:36:44 PM): awo i think dat fitting it so dat itz a spy meanz wen u sed da bandwagonerz were chance n' jenny
spies8cinnamyn (9:36:46 PM): but i cant speak 4 her
spies8cinnamyn (9:36:49 PM): on magalie, i mean
spies8jasmine (9:37:05 PM): spies8jasmine 4:36 pm
(4:36:39 PM): Yes, I don't really like posts either.
(4:36:43 PM): I'd also like people to get back into this

(4:36:46 PM): Less negativity
spies8jasmine 4:36 pm
(4:36:47 PM): CLaude

(4:36:49 PM): and Broderick
spies8jenny 4:36 pm
(4:36:54 PM): And Hali
Spies8Awohali (9:37:14 PM): But that is illogical considering that I suspected both her and Chance well before I ever said that they could have been bandwagoning on Magalie.
Spies8Awohali (9:37:32 PM): So she also made that claim with no evidence?
spies8cinnamyn (9:37:45 PM): meaning u fit da bandwagonerz 2 ppl u already suspected
spies8jasmine (9:37:52 PM): Then she pointed me here:
spies8jasmine (9:37:53 PM): spies8jenny 4:38 pm
(4:38:37 PM): spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=burg&thread=1081&post=7081

That post and the one after it.
spies8jenny 4:39 pm
(4:39:07 PM): Reply 24 and 25 in case the link puts you in the middle of the post for some reason.

(4:39:23 PM): That was a chat with myself, claude, hali, and ricky last round.
spies8jasmine 4:39 pm
(4:39:46 PM): Okay.
Spies8Awohali (9:38:02 PM): No, I stated that I feared it could be the case, which is a legitimate fear.
Spies8Awohali (9:39:06 PM): And this conversation is supposed to somehow show that I am disappointed with the game and that I think it sucks?
spies8jasmine (9:39:22 PM): It does show that your more angry.
Spies8Awohali (9:39:30 PM): How?
Spies8Awohali (9:39:36 PM): I would enjoy to see specific lines.
spies8jasmine (9:40:02 PM): [00:01] Spies8Awohali: Jenny... Do you or don't you suspect Lawrence? It is a simple question that I grow tired of asking.
spies8jasmine (9:40:12 PM): [00:13] Spies8Awohali: You are dodging the issue entirely. The reason you suspect Kiara is that she has not been around. That, by its very nature, disincludes your interactions with her as being necessary because your suspiucion of her has nothing to do with anything she has done while around.
[00:14] spies8jenny: I don't even know what you just tried to say there.
Spies8Awohali (9:40:39 PM): That is an isolated incident, not representative of my entire outlook on the game. Jenny would not answer my question.
spies8jasmine (9:40:41 PM): That is what I got out of it anyways.
spies8jasmine (9:40:58 PM): But then you can see why she considered you in the same boat as broderick
spies8jasmine (9:41:01 PM): broderick acts the same way
spies8jasmine (9:41:09 PM): he gets fed up with it, and starts being rude as fuck when asking questions
Spies8Awohali (9:41:11 PM): No, I can not. I had a legitimate reason to be irritated.
spies8jasmine (9:41:14 PM): so she put u in the same bat.
spies8jasmine (9:41:16 PM): boat*
Spies8Awohali (9:41:18 PM): And I was not rude, but forceful.
spies8jasmine (9:41:24 PM): Same thing in my eyes
spies8jasmine (9:41:31 PM): and most likely hers, if i got wat she meant..correct.
Spies8Awohali (9:41:42 PM): It is not the same thing, though.
spies8jasmine (9:41:47 PM): To me it is
spies8jasmine (9:41:49 PM): and to her, it seems it
Spies8Awohali (9:41:51 PM): Then you are wrong.
spies8jasmine (9:41:55 PM): Um, no.
spies8jasmine (9:42:00 PM): We just dont see it the same way
spies8jasmine (9:42:03 PM): to me, the way your forceful
spies8jasmine (9:42:08 PM): is VERY similar to the way broderick is
spies8jasmine (9:42:11 PM): so she can compare the two of u
spies8claude (9:42:15 PM): You flat-out bullied Jenny, Awohali.
spies8jasmine (9:42:16 PM): which is wat she did
Spies8Awohali (9:42:18 PM): I shall pull up a thesaurus, then, and see if forceful is listed under rude.
spies8jasmine (9:42:26 PM): you said it was forceful
Spies8Awohali (9:42:32 PM): Had she answered my question, I would not have asked it multiple times, Claude.
spies8jasmine (9:42:40 PM): thats your thought on the way u acted
spies8jasmine (9:42:49 PM): but awohali
Spies8Awohali (9:42:52 PM): I do not enjoy repeating myself, but it is necessary if someone skips a question I have asked.
spies8claude (9:42:54 PM): You don't have to be a bully to get answers.
spies8jasmine (9:43:00 PM): everyone thinks brod yells and is "forceful" and rude when he asks things.
Spies8Awohali (9:43:05 PM): No, but I do have to repeat the question if it is overlooked.
spies8jasmine (9:43:06 PM): so she is comparing u with him
spies8stephanie (9:43:09 PM): you do with jenny
spies8jasmine (9:43:10 PM): because of the way u acted with her
spies8jasmine (9:43:27 PM): I dont think there is anything wrong in her doing that. because they r similar
spies8jasmine (9:43:32 PM): from that point which she showed me
Spies8Awohali (9:43:33 PM): Broderick has demonstrated this behavior the entire game. I demonstrated it one time.
Spies8Awohali (9:43:39 PM): I see that as a glaring difference.
spies8jasmine (9:43:50 PM): its a similarity for her.
Spies8Awohali (9:43:59 PM): Then she is wrong.
spies8jasmine (9:44:04 PM): then take it up with her
spies8rondak (9:44:05 PM): So you admit you demonstrated sai behavior
spies8jasmine (9:44:07 PM): but your so defensive
spies8jasmine (9:44:08 PM): even now
spies8claude (9:44:16 PM): Broderick isn't really a bully.
spies8claude (9:44:18 PM): He is just emo.
spies8rondak (9:44:21 PM): lol
spies8jasmine (9:44:22 PM): either way, he's a dick
spies8lawrence (9:44:26 PM): What exactly is wrong with rude behavior in chats?
Spies8Awohali (9:44:31 PM): There is nothing to admit. I asked her the question three or four times, Rondak. What is wrong with that?
spies8lawrence (9:44:41 PM): It is not pleasant, I admit, but why is this a point of contention?
spies8jasmine (9:44:55 PM): jenny compared them two, and awohali doesnt think she should have compared them
spies8jasmine (9:44:56 PM): basically
Spies8Awohali (9:44:57 PM): Because it is a straw that must be grasped, Lawrence.
spies8chance (9:45:23 PM): anyone notice that anytime someone says why they're suspicious of awohali, he likes to deride them for it?
spies8lawrence (9:45:27 PM): What bearing does this have on whether either Jenny or Awohali are criminals?
Spies8Awohali (9:45:32 PM): Comparing my one incident to Broderick's entire game would be like comparing someone that just lost their virginity to a porn star.
spies8jasmine (9:45:37 PM): yes, he's exremely defensive
Spies8Awohali (9:45:58 PM): I deride only that which is ridiculous, Chance.
spies8jasmine (9:46:06 PM): Which seems to be every claim against u
spies8jasmine (9:46:07 PM):
spies8lawrence (9:46:08 PM): There are legitimate reasons to suspect Awohali . . . but how is being defensive a scumtell?
spies8chance (9:46:10 PM): you think everything against you is ridiculous.
spies8jasmine (9:46:12 PM): and i love how u try and make it all a joke.
spies8rondak (9:46:15 PM): argumentum ad hominem
Spies8Awohali (9:46:19 PM): The fact that I did not vote Magalie the episode she went is not ridiculous, so I do not attack it.
spies8lawrence (9:46:35 PM): Is it not the natural reaction to be defensive when you must muster a defense?
Spies8Awohali (9:46:38 PM): However, the idea that my having voted Magalie twice is suspicious is ridiculous, so I treat it as such.
spies8claude (9:46:47 PM): You can defend yourself without being defensive.
Spies8Awohali (9:46:59 PM): The act of defending is defensive, by definition.
spies8jasmine (9:47:14 PM): we aint looking at no dictionary
spies8chance (9:47:15 PM): it's not ridiculous. the fact that you voted for and were suspicious of magalie for the two episodes before she became a viable exile target, but suddenly switched off her in favor of me, is extremely suspicious.
spies8lawrence (9:47:18 PM): True Claude . . . but I do not believe criminals are the only ones with the tendency to be defensive
spies8chance (9:47:19 PM): and relevant.
Spies8Awohali (9:47:37 PM): If I had suddenly switched off of her, that would be a valid point, Chance. But I did not.
spies8chance (9:47:53 PM): it seemed like a sudden switch to me.
Spies8Awohali (9:48:15 PM): I voted for Jenny in Episode 4 and you in Episode 5. I suspected Magalie in both of those episodes.
Spies8Awohali (9:48:34 PM): So I did not switch off of her.
spies8jasmine (9:48:42 PM): its a sudden swap because you were so adament about getting her out beforehand.
spies8chance (9:48:51 PM): but in any case, the fact that you said you were 'all for' a jenny exile or a magalie exile, but then voted me because you 'didn't want to spread votes out', even though both magalie and jenny had votes at the time you voted me, is also suspicious.
spies8chance (9:49:10 PM): and besides that, you were right up there with claude in saying that we shouldn't exile magalie.
Spies8Awohali (9:49:39 PM): I did not say that. I said that we should at least petition to Sam to get her removed from the game before acting .
spies8lawrence (9:49:40 PM): As much as I hate to leave such an interesting conversation, I must retire
spies8lawrence (9:49:47 PM): Good night everyone
spies8chance (9:49:49 PM): yes, you most certainly did. let me find the quote.
Spies8Awohali (9:49:50 PM): Farewell, Lawrence.
spies8chance (9:49:53 PM): bye larry.
spies8stephanie (9:49:54 PM): gn b-larry

[Lawrence]

Rondak

spies8lawrence (8:11:17 PM): Hello my good sir Rondak
spies8rondak (8:11:28 PM): Evening, Mr. Lawrence
spies8lawrence (8:11:35 PM): How are you this fine evening?
spies8rondak (8:11:43 PM): Just peachy, and you?
spies8lawrence (8:12:09 PM): Quite well . . . excited that we again have eight members of our cast on AIM
spies8rondak (8:13:02 PM): it was a busy week
spies8lawrence (8:13:11 PM): I quite like the activity
spies8lawrence (8:13:18 PM): The first few nights I was here were slow
spies8rondak (8:13:59 PM): yeah, I arrived here suring a break, so everything was pretty inactive
spies8lawrence (8:14:10 PM): Understandable
spies8rondak (8:26:17 PM): I think I'll just vote randomly
spies8rondak (8:26:26 PM): unless I'vegot a strong feeling
spies8lawrence (8:26:40 PM): This is a joke, right?
spies8rondak (8:26:53 PM): nope
spies8rondak (8:27:10 PM): I've been thinking about it
spies8rondak (8:27:34 PM): and due to everybody making a case on different people is bound to bias the senate
spies8rondak (8:28:04 PM): That would allow the spies to stay off the radar
spies8lawrence (8:29:45 PM): No offense, but this is terrible
spies8lawrence (8:30:23 PM): You should never vote randomly
spies8rondak (8:32:57 PM): why
spies8lawrence (8:33:23 PM): The only weapon we have against the criminals in our midst is our vote
spies8rondak (8:33:24 PM): voting randomly might provoke unexpected reactions from some
spies8lawrence (8:33:46 PM): By randomly voting, you are leaving the outcome of the game to random chance
spies8rondak (8:34:34 PM): But that way you can discover things you normally wouldn't
spies8lawrence (8:36:21 PM): I agree, but the same strategy could be achieved in a more calculated manner, I believe
spies8lawrence (8:36:27 PM): However, I do like that you are thinking along those lines
spies8rondak (8:36:48 PM): I decided since I came here that I wouldn't play conservatively