WEDNESDAY JUNE 23rd.
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spies8mary (20:15:54): And your suspicions of Chance?
spies8mary (20:15:57): Sorry, Claude.
spies8chance (20:16:1): i think you did a good job at starting up discussion, like with your questions thread.
spies8gertrude (20:16:5): Hey there, Broderick!
spies8chance (20:16:10): 'sup brod.
spies8broderick (20:16:12): Hi
Spies8Awohali (20:16:18): Welcome back, Broderick.
spies8lawrence (20:16:39): Still there, to some extent. Is he being framed r was it a save is the question there, but we've got an episode to consider.
spies8mary (20:16:50): Ok.
spies8lawrence (20:16:52): Claude, sorry.
spies8lawrence (20:17:34): Uh...I think his role is more cit, and Chance confirmed the use. So it's in the background, but n hold for now.
spies8broderick (20:18:13): Why more cit?
spies8lawrence (20:18:53): I think, from a pure balance standpoint, that the role as he described would be too strong as a spy role.
spies8chance (20:19:32): people keep saying that and it bothers me. it goes back to trying to guess what sam would do. and i don't think we should be doing that.
spies8jasmine (20:19:55): Why is that a bad thing?
spies8lawrence (20:19:58): I agree that its opnion, but I think its a GOOD ONE.
spies8broderick (20:19:59): Why does it go back to guessing what Sam would do?
spies8jasmine (20:20:6): To assume it's a cit role or a spy role.
spies8lawrence (20:20:6): Gah, caps. sorry.
spies8jasmine (20:20:20): why would a spy role be to mess with our votes during the day, its all we have as citiizens.
spies8chance (20:20:31): jas, i'm saying it's a bad thing to consider it from a balance standpoint.
spies8chance (20:20:37): and that's why i think it's a spy role.
spies8jasmine (20:20:39): plus the political term"majority whip" is to help fellow people or w/e. its not to hinder.
spies8chance (20:20:50): how is this role a help to the cits?
spies8jasmine (20:20:59): if a citizen feels strongly on something
spies8broderick (20:21:4): Why does it go back to guessing what Sam would do?
spies8lawrence (20:21:4): Any other followups, or can I go to sleep now?
spies8jasmine (20:21:6): they can make it so a spy cant vote
spies8chance (20:21:6): anyway, i didn't mean to take the floor from larry.
spies8jasmine (20:21:16): they can limit the people cits can vote
spies8broderick (20:21:16): Oh sorry. Didn't realize
spies8jasmine (20:21:16): etc
spies8chance (20:21:33): brod, it goes back to guessing what sam would do because in essence the argument is "sam wouldn't do that because it doesn't make sense".
spies8lawrence (20:21:45): k. night all.
spies8chance (20:21:56): night larry.
spies8broderick (20:22:2): Good Night Lawrence
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spies8chance (20:22:21): and that should never be a factor. again, look at spies7andreas.
Spies8Awohali (20:22:25): Jasmine, I think an important bit of information to consider is that in the previous game, there was a Gift Giver who was a Spy. In fact, I think it is a good idea to study the roles of previous games, as they might lead us to a better understanding
Spies8Awohali (20:22:45): Which, as far as I can tell, we must understand that we can not understand what side a role is being used for.
spies8jasmine (20:23:3): even if not, someone pointed out--i think cinnamyn
spies8jasmine (20:23:7): its 50/50 if its role is spy or cit
spies8jasmine (20:23:11): why chance it with lynching him
spies8jasmine (20:23:12): we shouldnt
Spies8Awohali (20:23:26): I agree, we should not Chance it, although I may be willing to Margot it.
spies8chance (20:23:34): you're too clever.
spies8jasmine (20:23:40): I agree Awo
spies8jasmine (20:23:41):
Spies8Awohali (20:23:53): It is sad that I find enjoyment in little things such as that, but I do.
Spies8Awohali (20:24:32): I do agree that personally I do not see voting for Claude this episode as a good idea.
spies8broderick (20:25:57): I think the blanket theory is that no one auto-assumes someone is a specific alignment because of what role they may have. I am obviously going to contradict myself in my next statement. There are roles which can be auto assumed to be a specific alignment. Because hands down they would not make sense to be in the hands of the opposing alignment.
spies8broderick (20:26:1): Doctor for example.
Spies8Awohali (20:26:7): I think it would be interesting if we, as a group, made a pact to vote whichever one of Claude/Chance out immediately following the Exile of the other, should it occur.. I would be interested to see how this would shape their quest to destroy one another.
spies8chance (20:26:15): additionally, sam confirmed that the doctor is a citizen.
Spies8Awohali (20:26:22): Right, Doctor is an exception.
spies8broderick (20:26:29): Regardless of a mod confirmation.
spies8chance (20:26:41): but look at what happened last game. it was auto-assumed that the gift giver would be a cit role, and it wasn't, and the spies won.
spies8broderick (20:26:43): A spy Doctor is a pointless use of a role
spies8chance (20:26:50): my point - don't auto-assume.
Spies8Awohali (20:26:51): I think anything not confirmed by Sam, though, could go eithe way. I can not think of any roles other than Doctor that would be lmited to only one side.
spies8broderick (20:28:0): The role holder's actions need to be coupled with their role in making a decision on whether or not you think them spy/cit.
spies8chance (20:28:38): what action could claude make that would help the citizens, besides taking the vote of a spy?
spies8broderick (20:28:39): If you have a role, and you are ousted via yourself or another; it doesn't give you a free pass to laze around.
spies8chance (20:29:10): i'm sorry, i thought you meant role actions.
spies8broderick (20:29:20): I was talking about his more 'mundane' actions.
spies8broderick (20:29:22): spy hunting
spies8broderick (20:29:25): Contributing
spies8chance (20:29:50): well, he was wrong about cam and is wrong about me, so what does that mean for him?
spies8cory (20:30:49): Chance is right about not auto assuming
spies8cory (20:31:8): /random 2 cents
spies8chance (20:31:23): 'sup, philosoraptor.
spies8cory (20:31:31): Not much
spies8broderick (20:31:34): There is no confirmation if he is wrong about you Chance
spies8cinnamyn (20:31:41): how do u link 2 otha posts in a new post.?
spies8chance (20:31:44): i was speaking from my point of view, brod.
spies8cinnamyn (20:31:55): sory lmbo
Spies8Awohali (20:31:59): That is a good question, Cinnamyn.
spies8cinnamyn (20:32:26): i mean i want 2 give da link without it bein da whole url
spies8cinnamyn (20:32:34): can u do dat.?
spies8chance (20:32:57): isn't that hypertext?
spies8chance (20:33:0): or am i wrong?
Spies8Awohali (20:33:1): There is cerainly a way to, as I have seen it done, but I do not know how to do so.
spies8broderick (20:33:22): At the bottom of the post there is a 'link to post' option
spies8broderick (20:33:27): bottom right hand corner
spies8cinnamyn (20:33:51): ok i got dat, now how doez i put it in my new 1.?
spies8broderick (20:34:17):
title here that?
spies8cinnamyn (20:34:35): i will try
spies8broderick (20:34:40): Without the spaces
spies8broderick (20:34:43): and the '
spies8broderick (20:34:44): lol
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spies8cinnamyn (20:36:4): awwwww yeaaaaa
spies8cinnamyn (20:36:6): thx bu
spies8cinnamyn (20:36:10): carry on every1 lmbo
spies8chance (20:37:25): hahah.
spies8claude (20:37:47): I'm responding to Chance's forum post now
spies8chance (20:37:55): okay.
spies8broderick (20:38:45): i think you killed the chat Cinnamyn
Spies8Awohali (20:39:0): That is good news.
Spies8Awohali (20:39:7): To Claude, that is.
spies8cinnamyn (20:39:17): sorry.!!! keep talkin bout wutever shitz u wuz talkin bout
spies8gertrude (20:39:28): Did you guys cover Isaac yet?
spies8chance (20:39:36): he just kind of died on us.
spies8jasmine (20:40:5): he does that a lot.
spies8broderick (20:40:18): Were you covering each person?
spies8broderick (20:40:25): Talking to/about them?
spies8cinnamyn (20:40:29): tryin 2
spies8broderick (20:41:39): Who was covered?
spies8cinnamyn (20:42:12): awo, me, cory, mary
spies8cinnamyn (20:42:24): tryin 2 get tha ppl not talked bout much
spies8chance (20:47:54): has the leaderboard shrunk for anyone else?
spies8gertrude (20:48:21): No, I don't think so.
spies8chance (20:49:8): cause it's like, tiny for me.
spies8cinnamyn (20:49:18): itz tiny 4 me 2
Spies8Awohali (20:50:33): It is a normal size for me.
Spies8Awohali (20:55:9): I apologize, but I must be going now. The air condition in my house is down, and I am unable to bear more than a few hours here until it is fixed.
Spies8Awohali (20:55:33): I do not understand how my people survived the days of old without cold air! Farewell, all.
spies8gertrude (20:55:44): Good night, Awohali!
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spies8mary (21:01:51): Did anyone else talk with Margot today?
spies8jasmine (21:02:7): I believe Gertrude did, yes?
spies8gertrude (21:02:25): Unfortunately, I missed the majority of the time she was here
spies8broderick (21:02:30): A little bit
spies8mary (21:03:41): Did she say who she suspects?
spies8gertrude (21:03:48): Me.
spies8gertrude (21:03:57): And Chance..
spies8chance (21:04:2): surprise!
spies8gertrude (21:04:7): And maybe Claude?
spies8gertrude (21:04:13): Let me see if I can find it.
spies8mary (21:04:20): She must not have gotten the memo on Claude.
spies8mary (21:04:31): It's not cool to suspect Claude right now.
spies8chance (21:04:57): i suspect claude. am i uncool?
spies8gertrude (21:05:59): I stand corrected. Margot got the memo.
spies8gertrude (21:06:4): She doesn't suspect Claude.
spies8broderick (21:06:7): pies8jasmine: Margot did u hear all the shit about claude's role tho?
[16:33] spies8broderick: Hi Margot
[16:33] spies8jasmine: I don't see what lynching him then would do.
[16:33] spies8jasmine: Hey Brod, sex?
[16:33] spies8margot: yeah, i did hear
[16:33] spies8jasmine: Then if we lynch him, we could just be doing the spies work for them.
[16:34] spies8jasmine: If he really is the majority whip, shouldnt we let them imprison him?
[16:34] spies8broderick: No thanks
[16:34] spies8margot: probably, yeah
[16:34] spies8margot: so i'll probably vote for gertrude
[16:34] spies8jasmine: and whats your reasoning? her swapping votes to camilla?
[16:35] spies8margot: yes, and since i can't vote for claude because he has the majority whip role
[16:35] spies8jasmine: anyone else you think might be a spy?
[16:35] spies8jasmine: other then gertrude.
[16:35] spies8margot: Chance
[16:36] spies8jasmine: Cause everyone else does?
[16:36] spies8margot: because he was protected and we can't vote for him
[16:36] spies8margot: could be protecting a spy
[16:37] spies8margot: or protecting a top spy suspect to create confusion later on
[16:37] spies8jasmine: gotchaa
[16:37] spies8margot: plus he posted in the tallies thread that if he could vote, he'd vote for claude
[16:37] spies8margot: and if claude does in fact have a role that will benefit the citizens
[16:37] spies8margot: then why help the spies by getting rid of him?
[16:38] spies8margot: even if i was about talking of voting for him, but that's purely emotional
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spies8broderick (21:06:17): fail. message too long
spies8broderick (21:06:26): pies8jasmine: Margot did u hear all the shit about claude's role tho?
[16:33] spies8broderick: Hi Margot
[16:33] spies8jasmine: I don't see what lynching him then would do.
[16:33] spies8jasmine: Hey Brod, sex?
[16:33] spies8margot: yeah, i did hear
[16:33] spies8jasmine: Then if we lynch him, we could just be doing the spies work for them.
[16:34] spies8jasmine: If he really is the majority whip, shouldnt we let them imprison him?
[16:34] spies8broderick: No thanks
[16:34] spies8margot: probably, yeah
spies8broderick (21:06:38): spies8margot: so i'll probably vote for gertrude
[16:34] spies8jasmine: and whats your reasoning? her swapping votes to camilla?
[16:35] spies8margot: yes, and since i can't vote for claude because he has the majority whip role
[16:35] spies8jasmine: anyone else you think might be a spy?
[16:35] spies8jasmine: other then gertrude.
[16:35] spies8margot: Chance
[16:36] spies8jasmine: Cause everyone else does?
[16:36] spies8margot: because he was protected and we can't vote for him
[16:36] spies8margot: could be protecting a spy
[16:37] spies8margot: or protecting a top spy suspect to create confusion later on
[16:37] spies8jasmine: gotchaa
spies8broderick (21:06:48): spies8margot: plus he posted in the tallies thread that if he could vote, he'd vote for claude
[16:37] spies8margot: and if claude does in fact have a role that will benefit the citizens
[16:37] spies8margot: then why help the spies by getting rid of him?
[16:38] spies8margot: even if i was about talking of voting for him, but that's purely emotional
spies8chance (21:07:29): people have yet to explain to me how claude's role will 'benefit the citizens'.
spies8jasmine (21:09:3): your blinded by wanting him out chance
spies8jasmine (21:09:14): so just stfu bout him for just this round, plzzzzz
spies8gertrude (21:09:38): Hypocrisy is delicious.
spies8broderick (21:10:14): I think it is a mutual thought.
spies8jasmine (21:10:43): I need to head off for a bit, ill bbl tho
spies8jasmine (21:10:44): c ya guys
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spies8broderick (21:10:50): Cya
spies8chance (21:11:1): does this mean i can talk now?
spies8gertrude (21:11:35): Hey, Broderick. Who would you like to Exile tomorrow? If everyone were to follow your lead
spies8broderick (21:12:26): No one.
spies8gertrude (21:12:38): Hmm.
spies8gertrude (21:12:40): Why's that?
spies8broderick (21:14:16): I don't want to be followed. I am not infallible. If we were to follow someone's lead it should be a confirmed Cop.
spies8mary (21:14:29): That's profound.
spies8gertrude (21:14:31): Ok, let me rephrase, then.
spies8gertrude (21:15:13): Who, of the people vulnerable in the Democrats, would be the best lynch?
spies8broderick (21:15:41): Who are the vulnerable Democrats?
spies8gertrude (21:15:49): Everyone but Chance.
spies8broderick (21:15:55): I haven't been able to be around much when a lot of discussion has taken place.
spies8gertrude (21:15:56): And the republicans.
spies8broderick (21:15:58): Oh okay.
spies8broderick (21:16:33): The best to lynch, I don't know.
spies8broderick (21:16:43): Obviously a spy, but does someone know the identity of one?
spies8chance (21:17:12): ...
spies8chance (21:17:24): brod, which democrat would you like to lynch tomorrow?
spies8broderick (21:17:43): It kinda of is the same question you asked the first time.
spies8cinnamyn (21:18:10): broderik i didnt no u wuz such a smart azz lmbo.!
spies8broderick (21:20:21): Let me explain. Thinking someone is the best lynch candidate, implies I hold a lot of information. Which is flat out untrue. It is the second episode, there is no possible way to know enough at this time to guage who out of our group (save for unavailable Chance) is the best one. Unless I happen to be a Cop with a guilty verdict - which I'm not.
spies8chance (21:20:52): i'll be back later.
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spies8broderick (21:21:4): There are people I think are suspicious, but am I completely certain they are a spy and should be lynched? No
spies8cinnamyn (21:21:16): dam, u red a lot farther in 2 dat den i did lmbo
spies8gertrude (21:21:26): Indeed.
spies8gertrude (21:22:10): Who do you find the most suspicious, Brod?
spies8gertrude (21:22:22): Excluding the Republicans and Chance.
spies8broderick (21:23:50): Right now my top suspects in no ranked order are Jasmine, Margot, and you Gertie. Isaac and Lawrence follow though not as strongly.
spies8gertrude (21:23:51): Or a few people, if that makes it easier for you.
spies8gertrude (21:24:1): Awesome.
spies8gertrude (21:24:5): That only took forever.
spies8broderick (21:24:18): lol. You should of asked that to begin with.
spies8gertrude (21:24:22): So, why is Jasmine in your top three?
spies8broderick (21:24:56): Mainly her over reaction to my FoS' before Exile 1.
spies8gertrude (21:25:26): What was her reaction?
spies8cinnamyn (21:26:42): i remember her sayin' sumthin
spies8cinnamyn (21:26:53): i meant 2 ask her if she wuz gunna follow up on it
spies8broderick (21:27:17): I had FYI'd the chat room that I was making them in the suspicions thread. She acknowledged it. Then about five minutes before exile she called it stupid for me to be in the chat all fucking day and to wait until the last minutes. I did it 26 minutes if I remember right before hand. Yes it could be considered short before. But they were FoS'. None were votes.
spies8gertrude (21:27:51): Oh, I do remember that.
spies8broderick (21:27:52): I just thought that it was a complete overreaction.
spies8gertrude (21:28:41): Ok.
spies8gertrude (21:28:50): Then, why Isaac?
spies8broderick (21:28:55): You explained your vote. Margot was kind of weird, but she answered the questions I asked.
spies8broderick (21:29:17): Isaac and Lawrence are because of their episode one actions.
spies8broderick (21:30:36): It seemed they were always in the background during group chats. Lawrence's suspicions of Chance and Claude seemed to come directly from my post in Cinnamyn's thread.
spies8broderick (21:30:47): He said it was a synopsis, which it really wasn't.
spies8broderick (21:31:1): I was attempting to narrow down all of the hesaidshesaid crud.
spies8broderick (21:31:34): The majority of the transcript quotes were from Claude and Chance.
spies8broderick (21:33:1): be right back
spies8gertrude (21:33:48): Ok.
spies8mary (21:34:25): Was Magalie around tonight?
spies8gertrude (21:34:35): Yes, I believe so.
spies8mary (21:34:45): Did she express any suspicions?
spies8claude (21:36:25): Alright, response to Chance entered.
spies8claude (21:36:32): What a waste of time blagh.
spies8mary (21:36:44): All I have on record for her is a weak defense of Chance and a weak attack on Claude.
spies8mary (21:36:57): Gertrude is less suspect than before, but for no reason.
spies8mary (21:37:6): And Broderick is a queer.
spies8gertrude (21:37:12): Ha.
spies8gertrude (21:37:25): Let me try to find what she said.
spies8gertrude (21:37:28): If anything.
spies8gertrude (21:38:40): Actually, I couldn't find her in the chat..
spies8cinnamyn (21:39:3): i feel lyke i mite spend 2 much tyme in chatz
spies8cinnamyn (21:39:13): n' itz makin' it harder 4 me 2 really get a hold on ppl
spies8gertrude (21:39:28): Why's that?
spies8cinnamyn (21:39:57): cuz im lukin at our team, n' i wud luv 2 delve deeper in 2 sum ppl
spies8cinnamyn (21:40:19): isaac, lawrence, jasmine, magalie, awohali
spies8mary (21:40:24): Imwo you can always chat them up directly.
spies8cinnamyn (21:40:26): but ive hardlee talked 2 dem in person
spies8gertrude (21:40:38): Omg.
spies8cinnamyn (21:40:40): n' dey hardlee chat wen dey on
spies8gertrude (21:40:46): I'm laughing so hard right now.
spies8broderick (21:40:55): Okay I'm back
spies8cinnamyn (21:41:44): we can all have our own, broderick can have in my sexy opinion, jasmine can have in my trans opinion, magalie can have in my braindead opinion
spies8broderick (21:41:47): You can send 'em PMs
spies8cinnamyn (21:42:3): o wait, brainded wud conflict wit' black
spies8cinnamyn (21:42:5): shitz
spies8broderick (21:42:44): I tried chatting with Magalie last night, but she called me boring. lol
spies8mary (21:44:48): I keep trying to read Chance's post.
spies8mary (21:45:12): And I get bored and end up switching back to Tuesday night with Magalie.
spies8cinnamyn (21:45:40): i wuz about 2 thro down wit' her
spies8mary (21:45:45): I wonder if she's been a patient of mine before.
spies8mary (21:45:55): She's pretty much a lunatic.
spies8gertrude (21:46:5): She really is
spies8broderick (21:46:46): lol
spies8cinnamyn (21:46:52): awww fukkin damit diz pussy bitch froot fly done jus' went in my water
spies8broderick (21:47:7): Some of her first words to me were how she wanted to punch Jenny
spies8cinnamyn (21:47:7): n' im 2 lazy 2 get up n' get sum more
spies8gertrude (21:47:51): Broderick, since you suspect me
spies8gertrude (21:47:58): is there anything you'd like to ask me?
spies8broderick (21:48:57): lol Cinnamyn dont drink that!
spies8broderick (21:49:18): Yes Gertie there is
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spies8broderick (21:50:19): Test?
spies8gertrude (21:50:22): Welcome back!
spies8mary (21:50:24): Was that your Magalie impersonation?
spies8gertrude (21:50:31): I thought so, too.
spies8cinnamyn (21:50:36): not enuf "fuck"s
spies8broderick (21:50:39): Of course, inadvertantly
spies8broderick (21:50:50): fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck?
spies8cinnamyn (21:50:57): ok now drool
spies8gertrude (21:50:59): Excuse me while I move my laptop to my room.
spies8cinnamyn (21:51:0): a lil bit
spies8broderick (21:51:11): lol
spies8mary (21:53:15): I'll be back soon.
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spies8gertrude (21:54:45): Back.
spies8gertrude (21:54:51): Hey there, Jasmine!
spies8broderick (21:54:54): Hi Jasmine
spies8jasmine (21:54:59): Hey!
spies8cinnamyn (21:55:0): ayyyyyyye jasmine
spies8jasmine (21:55:17): So wats been up since i left
spies8jasmine (21:55:18): anything major
spies8gertrude (21:55:31): Not that I can recall.
spies8cinnamyn (21:55:41): broderick sed he had a crush on u
spies8cinnamyn (21:55:44): but u no, wutever
spies8broderick (21:55:48): lol
spies8jasmine (21:55:56): Really Broderick?
spies8jasmine (21:55:57):
spies8jasmine (21:56:14): Aww thats nice
spies8jasmine (21:56:14):
spies8jasmine (21:56:18): =) I feel important.
spies8broderick (21:56:39): Uhh I'm engaged.
spies8broderick (21:57:7): K Gertie. I know you answered this question, or at least touched upon the subject.
spies8broderick (21:57:29): I can't remember where it was.
spies8broderick (21:58:10): Camilla's posts turned your gut, what did you mean?
spies8broderick (21:58:22): What about them?
spies8gertrude (21:59:30): Is it ok if I copy and paste from my post in Awohali's thread?
spies8gertrude (21:59:46): Regardless, this is the post that set off the alarms in my head:
spies8gertrude (21:59:47):
spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=dems&thread=314&page=1#1137spies8jasmine (22:00:3): Cinnamyn's Lilith post is interesting.
spies8jasmine (22:00:5): havent tlked to the gurl yet
spies8jasmine (22:00:14): but thats pretty extreme for her first chat.
spies8gertrude (22:00:36): She definitely came in guns blazing.
spies8broderick (22:01:10): I haven't actually seen Lilith on. I guess a schedule difference
spies8cinnamyn (22:01:33): wen we wuz on last nite at lyke 10 est she sed "u ppl r on at a weird tyme.!"
spies8jasmine (22:01:44): [23:56] spies8gertrude: That's "LMBO." Laughing My Butt Off
[23:56] spies8mary: I thought it was imbo for "in my black opinion".
[23:57] spies8mary: Now I'm embarrassed.
spies8jasmine (22:01:50): I LOVE MARY
spies8gertrude (22:02:1): Lilith signed on today at around 3 PM EDT.
spies8gertrude (22:02:13): and signed off at 3:15 PM EDT
spies8jasmine (22:02:27): lol
spies8broderick (22:02:56): lol
spies8gertrude (22:04:6): To be fair, she actually got on at 2:52.
spies8gertrude (22:04:12): I just checked.
spies8gertrude (22:04:37): The odd thing was, she complained that no one was on.
spies8jasmine (22:04:57): lol. I gotta work in the morning, so imma ctach ya later. ill vote tommorrow then. Right now I'm still leaning towards a Margot boot.
spies8cory (22:04:57): Jasmine, no, I'm not taking a back seat.
spies8cory (22:05:1): ask me some questions, babe
spies8jasmine (22:05:6): huh?
spies8cory (22:05:16): I ctrl-f'd my name
spies8jasmine (22:05:17): Was that to like 4 hours ago
spies8cory (22:05:19): Lol
spies8cory (22:05:20): I know
spies8jasmine (22:05:23): LOL
spies8broderick (22:05:25): lol
spies8jasmine (22:05:36): I need to go, but i'll surely ask you some questions tommorrow.
spies8jasmine (22:05:37): =)
spies8cory (22:05:43): Looking forward to it!
spies8jasmine (22:05:46): just keep thinking of me all nitee
spies8gertrude (22:05:51): Broderick, to answer your question:
spies8gertrude (22:05:52):
spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=dems&thread=423&page=1#1986spies8jasmine (22:05:54):
spies8cory (22:05:54): I'll consider it.
spies8jasmine (22:05:59): mmhmm
spies8jasmine (22:06:1) has left the room.
spies8gertrude (22:06:2): Since you never said if I could c/p or not.
spies8cinnamyn (22:06:6): dere iz way 2 much weird sexual shit in dis team
spies8broderick (22:06:31): Oh heh. I didn't think cop/pasting would be a problem. Sorry
spies8broderick (22:06:36): *copy
spies8broderick (22:06:55): lol Cinnamyn
spies8broderick (22:07:41): I think my internet might go again.
spies8gertrude (22:09:7): That's unfortunate.
spies8broderick (22:09:41): The reason that you hadn't said your Camilla suspicion more publicly, was because of holding cards close to the chest? If I remember the right wording?
spies8gertrude (22:09:55): Essentially, yes.
spies8gertrude (22:10:17): Coming from a background of Survivor, I'm not used to laying the proverbial cards out on the table.
spies8gertrude (22:10:46): However, since then I have tried improving that habit of hiding my suspicions and thoughts.
spies8gertrude (22:10:58): And hopefully, I'm doing decently at it.
spies8broderick (22:11:21): ha. You just answered the question I was about to ask.
spies8gertrude (22:11:34): Which was?
spies8broderick (22:11:47): I was going to ask if you planned on being more open with your suspicions
spies8gertrude (22:11:56): Oh, yes.
spies8gertrude (22:12:4): Would you like to hear mine?
spies8broderick (22:12:11): Yes please
spies8gertrude (22:12:21): Fair enough.
spies8gertrude (22:12:38): First off, I am not sold on the idea that Chance is a Spy.
spies8gertrude (22:13:0): I know that seems to be most people's opinions, but let me make it very clear that I disagree.
spies8gertrude (22:13:30): I don't necessarily think he's town, either, though. I just think the spotlight being put on him is undeserved.
spies8gertrude (22:13:52): Next, I suspect Margot, which shouldn't be surprising.
spies8cory (22:14:10): What reasons that were brought forth about Chance do you think are undeserved?
spies8gertrude (22:14:20): Her response to being questioned about her vote reasoning was essentially a giant deflection onto me.
spies8broderick (22:14:35): Why does it seem most people are sold on him being a spy?
spies8gertrude (22:14:53): Well, everyone seems to think that because Chance was made Immune, the Spies are trying to protect him from Exile.
spies8gertrude (22:15:14): And because whenever asked, people have listed Chance as one of their prime suspects.
spies8gertrude (22:15:39): Jasmine and Claude, specifically, are convinced that he is 100% Spy.
spies8gertrude (22:16:18): Margot also mentioned his name, and Lilith spent hours talking about Chance and his situation last night.
spies8cory (22:16:41): Do you lean Citizen or Spy on Chance?
spies8gertrude (22:17:41): I'm going to have to say Citizen if you're going to make me pick. The sheer amount of people who suspect him makes me suspect him less.
spies8cory (22:18:5): What is your take on Claude, ignoring his role claim?
spies8cinnamyn (22:18:24): doez da sheer amount of ppl suspectin' margot worry u gert.?
spies8gertrude (22:18:31): I think Claude is passionate - more than he'd like to admit
spies8broderick (22:19:4): I agree with that. He tries to deny emotions in the game.
spies8gertrude (22:19:32): No, Cinnamyn, it doesn't. Because people suspect Margot more for what she's said (or hasn't), done (or hasn't), while it seems people suspect Chance because someone used a role on him.
spies8cinnamyn (22:20:0): o ok, cuz i dont think dat at all about chance
spies8cinnamyn (22:20:12): i still think it b 50/50 cit spy
spies8gertrude (22:20:30): Getting back to Claude, I think his passion may cause him to be a little reckless
spies8gertrude (22:20:51): A little too sure of his suspects, a little too quick to claim.
spies8gertrude (22:21:12): I currently think that both Claude and Chance are Citizens.
spies8gertrude (22:21:15): Gasp.
spies8cory (22:21:41): Lol, that's actually my take as well
spies8cory (22:21:47): Though less certain about Chance
spies8cory (22:21:53): My working theory is that the Spies are among the quieter players
spies8gertrude (22:22:7): I would definitely agree.
spies8gertrude (22:22:24): Getting back to the original question - my suspects -
spies8gertrude (22:22:50): I'd say Margot, followed by Isaac.
spies8broderick (22:23:24): Any other reason for Margot besides the apparent deflection to you?
spies8cinnamyn (22:23:33): i think isaac b anotha case of "im here sayin stuff but not actually sayin stuff"
spies8gertrude (22:23:37): Oh, sure.
spies8gertrude (22:23:43): Exactly, Cinnamyn.
spies8gertrude (22:23:57): And sometimes it's "I'm here not saying stuff, but I'm here!"
spies8gertrude (22:24:47): @ Broderick: Her lack of independent thought when reporting her suspects lead me to believe that she either simply find a majority or that someone is telling her who to suspect.
spies8broderick (22:25:18): I recall from the first episode, there were quite a few 'I'm here reading the chat's or 'I'm here catching up'. But would rarely say anything, or contribute into the active discussion. Other than a few comments.
spies8broderick (22:25:45): Could it be possible that she is lost and has no idea what to do?
spies8gertrude (22:25:59): Of course it's possible.
spies8gertrude (22:26:14): I'm not tunneling on her. She could be a Citizen in theory.
spies8broderick (22:26:23): Everyone could
spies8gertrude (22:26:26): I just don't believe she is at the moment.
spies8gertrude (22:26:33): I realize that..
spies8gertrude (22:26:48): That was actually, really my point.
spies8broderick (22:26:51): I know, I think you even said it before.
spies8cory (22:27:0): The main thing I'm worried about with Margot is I kind of feel like she's a noob.
spies8cory (22:27:3): Which makes her harder to read.
spies8gertrude (22:28:13): I can see that.
spies8broderick (22:28:22): I think it is possible. Finding the truth would be rather difficult. People like, regardless of their alignment.
spies8broderick (22:28:36): They lie to hide their identities.
spies8broderick (22:28:43): *lie
spies8gertrude (22:28:51): Well...
spies8gertrude (22:29:6): I'm not sure if I agree with that.
spies8gertrude (22:29:40): Yes, we hide our identities, but nobody really is lying to anyone else. We all KNOW that we're just characters.
spies8gertrude (22:30:1): Is an lie a lie when everyone knows it's not true?
spies8broderick (22:30:2): I'm not really talking about our charactes.
spies8cinnamyn (22:30:2): wut da fukk u talkin' bout, i am a real fabulus diva
spies8broderick (22:30:7): *charactes
spies8broderick (22:30:12): r
spies8cory (22:30:21): I'm not lying
spies8gertrude (22:30:23): Oh. I apologize, then.
spies8cory (22:30:26): I am a real life philosoraptor
spies8gertrude (22:30:26): What do you mean?
spies8broderick (22:31:31): More our experience. With some people it can be apparent they have played some sort of mafia before, or even spies. You can for the most part differentiate from mafia backgrounds to org backgrounds.
spies8broderick (22:31:41): Sometimes it is difficult to tell
spies8broderick (22:32:3): Some people read past games, so they appear to of played before.
spies8broderick (22:32:17): Some people may act like a newbie, but are secretly not
spies8broderick (22:32:24): Some some some some lol
spies8gertrude (22:32:50): Ah.
spies8gertrude (22:33:8): So you're saying Margot could be lying about her being a new Spies player?
spies8cinnamyn (22:33:47): but 2 play devils advocate gertie cud b lyin bout only playin survivor
spies8gertrude (22:34:3): That's true, I could.
spies8broderick (22:34:5): Has she said she was new to Spies?
spies8gertrude (22:34:12): And technically, I've played Big Brother, as well.
spies8gertrude (22:34:32): @ Broderick, I don't know. I assumed so, maybe wrongly.
spies8broderick (22:37:57): I dunno. I think that gauging a person's alignment primarily based on their experience is not always accurate.
spies8broderick (22:38:16): you have to rely on that person being completely honest.
spies8gertrude (22:39:9): I don't think I made that argument...
spies8gertrude (22:39:17): If I did, I apologize. I didn't mean to.
spies8cinnamyn (22:39:37): ok bbz im out 4 da nite, c u tomz
spies8broderick (22:39:52): Oh I was just saying for the record mostly that last one.
spies8broderick (22:39:56): Good night Cinnamyn
spies8cinnamyn (22:40:4) has left the room.
spies8gertrude (22:40:5): Good night!
spies8cory (22:40:16): Lol
spies8broderick (22:40:41): Cory where is your head at?
spies8cory (22:41:49): In terms of?
spies8cory (22:42:17): I was chatting up Cinnamyn and she left our conversation abruptly. Thought it was funny!
spies8broderick (22:43:7): I hope she didn't choke on that fruit fly.
spies8broderick (22:43:27): You said you had a working theory that the spies were among the more quiet players. Could you elaborate?
spies8cory (22:43:27): As for suspects, I think Isaac might be at the top of my list
spies8broderick (22:43:47): Oh. Gertie I didn't ask for you to elaborate on Isaac.
spies8gertrude (22:43:59): That's true, you didn't.
spies8cory (22:44:15): Well, I was looking at the votes after the last exile
spies8cory (22:44:19): It wasa very close 3-way split
spies8gertrude (22:44:27): I really don't have much on him in terms of substantialness, I'll admit.
spies8cory (22:44:46): If we have 2 or 3 Spies on this team, you'd think that, if they were one of those three players, that they could have maneuvered their votes to make it not so tight
spies8broderick (22:45:4): Sorry, be right back. Bathroom
spies8cory (22:45:14): Nobody knew Camilla was going to idle out
spies8cory (22:45:19): She was around just the night before.
spies8gertrude (22:45:19): but there was that one chat when people were ripping Claude a new one, and every five minutes or so, Isaac would say something against Claude and it would be way out of left field.
spies8cory (22:45:50): Ruling out Claude, Chance, myself, that leaves mostly the quiet players
spies8gertrude (22:45:50): Then he would disappear once again, only to come back a little later.
spies8cory (22:45:58): It's been something on my mind since early on in the game
spies8cory (22:46:32): Awohali was another player I had in this same category
spies8cory (22:46:36): But I'm less sure about him now
spies8cory (22:46:42): Margot is another
spies8cory (22:46:50): Cinnamyn was another, but not so much
spies8cory (22:47:6): Basically people who I have noticed sitting in the chat kind of letting the drama do the work
spies8gertrude (22:47:40): To be honest, Cory, you sort of fit that description now.
spies8cory (22:48:9): I may idle, but I'm always willing to participate
spies8cory (22:48:57): No different than Claude
spies8cory (22:49:3): He's always in the chat room but not always here.
spies8gertrude (22:49:12): Except Claude gets into the drama.
spies8broderick (22:49:36): K back
spies8cory (22:50:6): That's because Claude is almost always directly involved in the drama.
spies8gertrude (22:50:15): That's true.
spies8broderick (22:51:12): Do you think they 'let the drama do the work' because the have ulterior motives, or because they simply don't want to get involved?
spies8cory (22:52:6): Basically, I don't think Claude it a Spy. I'm unconvinced that Chance is one. I know I'm not. There are people like Isaac and Margot who don't seem curious enough about actually finding Spies.
spies8cory (22:52:36): I can't conclusively say that one of those two scenarios is true
spies8cory (22:54:24): Maybe 'drama' isn't the right word. But the bigger discussions
spies8cory (22:55:1): The Spies know what's up. They don't need to be curious
spies8cory (22:55:21): They just need to look good.
spies8broderick (22:55:50): If Margot and Isaac are spies, they dont seem to be doing a good job of looking good.
spies8cory (22:56:12): Margot no. But that may be because she's a noob.
spies8cory (22:56:23): Isaac I'd argue has done a good job of staying out of the spotlight
spies8cory (22:56:31): He's one of those people you just don't think about
spies8broderick (22:56:33): What makes you think so about margot?
spies8cory (22:56:39): Because he does enough that you know he's not inactive
spies8cory (22:56:50): But not enough that he has really slipped up
spies8cory (22:56:59): He doesn't strike me as very inquisitive
spies8cory (22:57:12): Think what?
spies8cory (22:59:18): That she's a noob?
spies8cory (22:59:35): Not sure.
spies8cory (22:59:35): I talked to her once. It's just the impression I got