- OWEN -
Saturday, 19th June.
spies8themba 10:35 am
howdy owen :-) what's news?
spies8owen 10:37 am
Hey there Themba. Just chatting with Gabe about Savannah.
How about you?
spies8themba 10:37 am
meeting Hambone for the first time :-) he's half asleep waiting to go to bed and i'm half asleep as i just woke up :-P
trying to get my head around the discussions i've missed out on too.
spies8owen 10:39 am
Likewise. I missed out on more than I would have liked to yesterday with the AIM issues.
spies8themba 10:40 am
yeah seems like convo's are starting to get less about favourite foods and more about scumhunting.
spies8owen 10:41 am
Hahaha, I always enjoy that part of the game. But with 2 days until we lynch, time to get a move on w/ the scumhunting.
spies8themba 10:41 am
agreed. so do you have anyone in mind yet?
spies8owen 10:41 am
Alexei stood out to me the most from the Zed chat.
But Gabriel did make some interesting points about Savannah.
Zed... I really don't know. I got a town lean based off of that. It just seemed way too sloppy to be Mafia. I think scum would have had an entire alibi ready for what they were doing the previous night with no holes in it.
How about you?
spies8themba 10:43 am
haha i have seen some very sloppy spy work - especially in the first episode.
spies8owen 10:43 am
*cough* Perry *cough*
spies8themba 10:43 am
he makes the least sense to me atm.
lmfao
exactly.
spies8owen 10:44 am
I did think of Perry when I read all of this, unfortunately.
That chat will definitley play a big part in the first lynch. At least I'd think so.
spies8themba 10:44 am
i dunno. i need to speak to alexei more i think. but atm i'd say zeke is the most inconsistent... and like i said, i have seen it be just bad spy work befofe.
* before. and yeah i agree.
spies8owen 10:45 am
The things that stood out to be about Alexei aren't solid scumtells, but it just didn't sit right with me reading it.
to me*
spies8themba 10:45 am
this is when he was pushing zede?
spies8owen 10:46 am
Putting the attention on Gabe, asking for his opinion on Zed after he gave a "meh" answer. I'm all up for people asking for others opinions, but give a conclusive answer before jumping onto the next person.
Yeah, it was.
He told Jenny later during it that he was pretty sure Zed was scum.
But in the chat said that he believed his story, but that he was sketchy.
I'd like to talk to him first before jumping to conclusions like that though.
spies8themba 10:47 am
yeah me too. it'd be interesting to hear his side of the story.
i can't wait to see chance myself. what a load of rubbish.
or maybe i want to see dane. he's the drunk one isn't he? i still get the names confused. i know the pics, but forget the names. just like irl.
spies8owen 10:50 am
Yeah -- I think Chance is a drunk too, but he's on the democrats.
Dane is the one you'd be looking for.
spies8themba 10:51 am
lmao
spies8owen 10:51 am
The one that threw a tenative vote at you making a thread.
spies8themba 10:51 am
yeah that one. not cool.
spies8owen 10:52 am
Oh lord, if it's between you and Zed for the lynch (doubtful) this would be Perry/Marcus all over again.
Marcus was the first to suggest No Exile.
spies8themba 10:53 am
god i hope it doesn't come to that. i still fail to see how it makes me a spy. there was nothing to read as i was making the thread the same time jenny posted the first group chat, and i wanted to get some discussion started. how that makes me scummy is beyond me.
spies8owen 10:55 am
It was just a discussionary thread -- don't think it's grounds to vote someone at all.
But he could just be trying to gague a reaction.
spies8themba 10:56 am
ahh the old reaction test. forgot about those. silly me.
-=-
Thoughts:
- Like him, seems intelligent.
- Obviously played before.
- Unsure of alliance, 60/40 village/spy.
Sunday 20th June-
spies8owen 12:28 pm
Hahaha, you and I are going in the same direction with this.
He said earlier in the chat that Steph had great points about Dane
I wanna see if he knows what points he's even talking about.
spies8themba 12:29 pm
yep. my thoughts exactly.
spies8owen 12:29 pm
And it doesn't seem like he does.
*silence*
spies8themba 12:29 pm
lol maybe he's thinking...
of something...
and failing :-P
spies8owen 12:30 pm
Yep. I'm pretty sure he's scum.
spies8themba 12:30 pm
likewise
spies8owen 12:30 pm
Because I've played this way as scum. I've got caught this way.
spies8themba 12:30 pm
haha really?
spies8owen 12:30 pm
Yep.
spies8themba 12:30 pm
awe!
spies8owen 12:30 pm
For some of the same things -- fence-riding but pushing people at the same time.
spies8themba 12:31 pm
oooh we got an update!
it's detailed!
spies8owen 12:31 pm
HE RESPONDED?
spies8themba 12:31 pm
kinda!
spies8owen 12:31 pm
lmfao!
spies8themba 12:31 pm
hehehe
spies8owen 12:36 pm
Not as bad as I thought.
Just took a few more minutes than I would have preferred.
spies8themba 12:36 pm
LOL.
spies8owen 12:40 pm
He's so gracious.
Not swaying me, sorry.
spies8themba 12:40 pm
Nah it doesn't do much for me either.
spies8owen 12:40 pm
If I was fighting for my spot in the game I'd be a bit more aggressive.
spies8themba 12:40 pm
Oh hell yeah. ALA Dane and I.
spies8owen 12:41 pm
Dane seems like overaggressive town to me.
spies8themba 12:41 pm
Possibly. I am a little concerned every one thinks the same though.
Which they do. Literally.
spies8owen 12:42 pm
I'm not COMPLETELY sold on it, but for now, Alexei is a lot more suspicious
spies8themba 12:42 pm
yes. that part is definitely agreeable. and i am just going off of what i've learned in the last 2 hours when he's been subject to grilling. i haven't even considered tina's and nita's cases on him.
dane stood up a lot better.
spies8owen 12:43 pm
I've been on him for since the Zed chat. He hasn't helped himself at all since then.
(10:41:43 PM) spies8alexei: half of my case depends entirely on Zed
I don't think that at all.
spies8themba 12:44 pm
No, he really hasn't. Yeah what does that even mean?
I don't get it.
spies8owen 12:44 pm
It's his own actions, not Zed's.
spies8themba 12:44 pm
Because he pushed Zed?
spies8owen 12:45 pm
It's not because he pushed Zed, it's HOW he's done.
I don't know if he gets that.
spies8themba 12:45 pm
I think he thinks if Zed's exiled and flips spy, that'll make him a Cit? And vice versa? Idk.
spies8owen 12:46 pm
It actually does seem that way.
spies8themba 12:46 pm
Odd. Now I want to hear Jenny say something.
spies8owen 12:47 pm
Jenny is a smart one.
Usually the first one to IM me when I get on.
Doesn't say too much afterwards though.
At least that's the case with me.
spies8themba 12:47 pm
Yeah, to invite you to the chat room?
spies8owen 12:47 pm
Yep. There's also been times where she'd announce to me that people are online.
As if she's my buddy list.
spies8themba 12:48 pm
LOL. Yep. Same here. She may be smart, but she ain't saying much. I wanna hear more.
spies8owen 12:48 pm
Steph also brought this up too.
"She IM's me and then doesn't respond to things I say afterwards"
spies8themba 12:49 pm
Yes. A little odd. Also a very detailed answer there too.
spies8owen 12:49 pm
She always seems so composed.
spies8themba 12:49 pm
Boring!
spies8owen 12:49 pm
Needs some flavaaaa.
spies8themba 12:50 pm
Yeah, I will never be always composed. Maybe I am just jealous... Guess there's gotta be one of us!
spies8owen 12:50 pm
Yeah, I can definitely get rattled.
I can really overdefensive when I'm accused of shit.
be really*
spies8themba 12:51 pm
Me too. Me. Too. :-D
spies8owen 12:51 pm
3 smiley faces in a row from Ms. Jenny
What a sweetheart.
spies8themba 12:52 pm
* yawns *
:-P
spies8owen 12:52 pm
I love that I said that in a context where she could never tell if I'm being sarcastic or being nice.
spies8themba 12:52 pm
LOOOL.
I did LOL. Honest. You're a funny funny boy.
spies8owen 12:52 pm
Man*
spies8themba 12:53 pm
haha. sure sure.
did you see Alexei's reaction then? LOL? Just LOL?
I think he's pretty much admitted it!
spies8owen 12:53 pm
I feel like I'm being so insensitive right now...
but I'm not being that shit.
buying*
lmao
spies8themba 12:53 pm
No I don't buy it for a second.
But check Alexei out.
I reckon he's given up.
spies8owen 12:54 pm
It seems it.
...that doesn't help us if he's town.
If you're town, fight.
spies8themba 12:54 pm
Has anyone ever given up as a Spy in chat before? I can't think of any that I've read.
spies8owen 12:54 pm
Nor can I.
Most of them still claim citizen even after reveal.
spies8themba 12:55 pm
Harharhar.
Funny stuff.
I am so tempted to ask him.
spies8owen 12:55 pm
...
That last message.
Oh dear.
spies8themba 12:56 pm
I will LMFAO if he's Spy.
spies8owen 12:56 pm
I think I might LMFAO either way. That was really bad.
But I'll be shocked if he's not.
spies8themba 12:56 pm
Ahahahahaaa!
spies8owen 12:56 pm
That was like an award show acceptance.
spies8themba 12:56 pm
Yeah me too. Never seen a Cit lie down and take it like that before. Never ever.
spies8owen 12:57 pm
Thank you, thank you for giving me the role of spy.
spies8themba 12:57 pm
So true. We could do our own award show this game.
ROFL!
spies8owen 12:58 pm
LOL
I BID YOU FAREWELL.
spies8themba 12:59 pm
hehehehe
spies8owen 12:59 pm
I can't take this seriously.
At all.
spies8themba 12:59 pm
Hahaha.
spies8owen 12:59 pm
I've cried during Disney movies.
But this...
spies8themba 12:59 pm
It's well amusing.
spies8owen 12:59 pm
I can't...
spies8themba 12:59 pm
Hahaha! Love it.
I hope they're all like this!
spies8owen 1:02 pm
Thanks for my first legit "lmao" of the game.
I was getting kinda worried everyone was really stiff (aside from Rondak)
I wouldn't dare make a joke to Jenny.
She reminds me of an ex.
spies8themba 1:04 pm
Hahaha! Well I am always up for a laugh. Thank you too.
-=-
Thoughts:
- Funny.
- Must be a Spies player from one of the earlier games, I'd assume. I will LOL if he's one from Spies6.
- Very clever, should be an early target for the Spies if town-sided.
Monday 21st June-
[12:50] spies8owen: Why in the shit must Alexei be so scummy to me? Zed has said some of the dumbest things I've seen.
[12:51] spies8owen: I can't get over Alexei's giving up. It does no good for the town to lie down and take this.
[12:51] spies8themba: I know. I have changed. I don't think it's going to matter though. I think Alexei is still going.
[12:51] spies8owen: In the very least if he kept fighting he could have caused some people to slip up
[12:52] spies8themba: I know. I know. It's so hard. It's 55/45 in Zed's favour for me atm.
[12:52] spies8themba: Also didn't help that Alexei didn't even bother posting his story.
[12:52] spies8owen: The only people it would benefit for him to just STFU is the other spies.
[12:52] spies8themba: But if Alexei does flip spy, people may start questioning me.
[12:52] spies8themba: You have a good point.
[12:53] spies8themba: We will know soon enough.
[12:53] spies8owen: Yeah. I've second guessed it for the past 2 hours or so.
[12:53] spies8themba: Me too.
[12:53] spies8owen: The Zed HQ comment kills me.
[12:53] spies8themba: LOL I know!
[12:53] spies8themba: He just... I don't know.
[12:53] spies8owen: If he's a n00b like it seems, he would NOT know the term HQ
[12:54] spies8themba: no. good point.
[12:54] spies8themba: Change to Zedekiah please.
I think he's just too lame to be a Cit.
[12:54] spies8themba: that's my exact vote wording.
[12:54] spies8owen: Hahaha.
[12:54] spies8themba:
[12:54] spies8owen: When I first heard people were flipping I was like "you guys are so fucked if Alexei flips scum"
[12:54] spies8owen: but really, I can understand it.
[12:55] spies8owen: Because I've been so certain on Alexei and even now I'm thinking I could be wrong
[12:55] spies8themba: Do you know if anyone else has flipped?
[12:55] spies8owen: Tina.
[12:55] spies8themba: Oh. Interesting.
[12:55] spies8owen: That's the last one, I believe.
[12:55] spies8themba: Hmmm.
[12:55] spies8themba: She was so sure on Alexei I thought.
[12:55] spies8owen: Yeah -- I think it was the Zed HQ comment and his lack of participation.
[12:55] spies8owen: Both of which are really valid.
[12:56] spies8themba: Yeah. They are. But I think Alexei will still be going home.
[14:43] spies8owen: Yeah, so I'm still not sure about Zed
[14:43] spies8owen: The votes are confusing me, perhaps I'm looking too much into it
[14:43] spies8themba: no me neither.
[14:43] spies8themba: i GUARANTEE there's a spy on the Alex vote
[14:43] Meebo Message: Could not IM buddy
[14:44] spies8owen: I wouldn't be shocked at all.
[14:44] spies8owen: Zeddy not voting Alexei concerns me.
[14:44] spies8owen: With his head on the chopping block
[14:44] spies8themba: question is, where will the group head now?
[14:44] spies8owen: Allan is after me! Oh NO!
[14:44] spies8themba: hmmm... yep i'd vote the other person being voted definitely.
[14:45] spies8themba: Allan! OH NOES! Not Allan!
[14:45] spies8themba: You better watch your back!
[14:46] spies8themba: Also, it will be interesting to see who's exiled. And, is it only one person from the entire group? Or one from each of the dems/repubs? I don't think it's been specified.
[14:46] spies8themba: Or I just didn't pay attention. Either/or.
[14:47] spies8owen: I think it's only 1, doesn't matter which group.
[14:47] spies8owen: I'm a bit concerned about it
[14:51] spies8themba: yeah i was thinking, if jenny's a cit, maybe that's why she has been lying low. she has let it slip a couple of times that she knows quite a bit about the game, and i reckon she's worried about being imprisoned. if of course, she is a cit. cause she seems quite smart when she does talk, but she doesn't talk all that much. if that makes sense.
[14:52] spies8themba: <<< not worried about being imprisoned! i didn't vote the exiled
[14:52] spies8owen: Yep. She tries to make herself seem over-useful to us.
[14:52] spies8owen: Being the first to IM, always posting chats, always setting reminders.
[14:52] spies8owen: But I haven't gotten much out of her as far as hunting is concerned.
[14:52] spies8themba: Correct. So she's here, but she's not, kinda.
[14:53] spies8owen: Always paying attention, it would seem.
[14:53] spies8themba: I would think about exiling you, if I was a Spy, definitely.
[14:53] spies8themba: Oh always. She knows what's going on.
[15:01] spies8themba: PS -
[15:01] spies8themba: First spy to lie down and admit defeat in Group Chat Award goes to:
[15:02] spies8themba: Alexei!
[15:09] spies8owen: Hahahaha.
[15:09] spies8owen: I'd like to thank you all for catching me!
[15:09] spies8owen: It's been an honour!
[15:09] spies8owen: At least we know he was Canadian?
[15:09] spies8themba: LMFAOOOO
[15:09] spies8themba: Gold.
[15:10] spies8themba: Btw I forgot to show you this:
[15:10] spies8themba: [12:27] spies8zedekiah: Pardon me miss themba, fer the sake of it, as someone who ain't on the bandwagon o' Alexei, what are yer last thoughts 'bout his alignment?
[12:31] spies8themba: i think he may well be a spy, but i am unsure. i think you are both possible spies, and it's a 50/50 at the moment as to who i vote for. i vote who i see has the strongest case against them. and now i feel that is you.
[15:10] spies8themba: About half an hour or so before exile began.
[15:10] spies8owen: Hmm...
[15:10] spies8owen: I do definitely still think they could be spies together.
[15:10] spies8owen: Alexei never took a legitimate stance against him.
[15:11] spies8themba: Seems a bit odd doesn't it? Just asking for what?
[15:11] spies8themba: I don't get it. But, I don't get anything he does. At all.
[15:11] spies8owen: Yeah, I don't know why he'd need to know that.
[15:11] spies8owen: "Who should we imprison if Alexei stays?"
[15:11] spies8owen: Basically.
[15:11] spies8owen: That's the only thing I get out of that.
[15:12] spies8owen: Maybe they were trying to figure out who had a better chance at surviving after this
[15:16] spies8themba: However, if he is a Spy too, he will take out the Best Defence Ever Award...
[15:16] spies8themba: Q) Zed, why weren't you around?
[15:16] spies8themba: A) ...
[15:16] spies8themba:
[15:17] spies8themba: And good point. Didn't think of that. Ugh.
[15:31] spies8themba: Jenny got the exact same message. And if Sav did too, that's just odd.
[15:31] spies8owen: Very.
[15:31] spies8owen: Still not understanding what asking that accomplishes.
[15:32] spies8themba: Me neither.
[15:32] spies8themba: Jenny's response was also along a similar line to that.
-=-
Thoughts:
- Seems like he feels the same way I did about this Exile.
- Interesting take on Zed's actions.
- Could he be a manipulative Spy?
Tuesday 22nd June-
[13:30] spies8owen: I'm hearing that I apparently bussed Alexei, lmao
[13:30] spies8owen: How in the hell was that conclusion drawn by anyone? And why ME out of the other people that flaked out? Ridiculous.
[13:31] spies8themba: one of the voters did, i think. but i think it's between rondak and hambone.
[13:31] spies8themba: most don't think it's you - as you helped with evidence against him.
[13:32] spies8owen: If they want to think that so I'm not imprisoned, that's swell, but it's a bit frustrating when I put a lot of thought into everything.
[13:32] spies8themba: lol well i hope you're not imprisoned.
[13:33] spies8themba: i am starting to get a scummy read on hambone.
[13:34] spies8owen: I think a lot of that relies on if he's telling the truth about his Survivor/no Mafia background. I've thought of that, but a lot of the things I've seen from him seem like an eager n00b town.
[13:34] spies8owen: Why are you getting a scum read?
[13:35] spies8owen: Hammy's actually been pretty talkative with me lately -- I've been getting a good vibe.
[13:35] spies8themba: he said something about believing alexei was scum for the last couple of days. i've talked with him and not once did he mention that he suspected alexei.
[13:36] spies8themba: and he also tried to fos me for being 45/55 between alexei and zed, and that it was scary to him that i could change so easily between the 2.
[13:36] spies8themba: but maybe you're right, maybe that's just keen newb.
[13:36] spies8owen: Hmm, you're right.
[13:36] spies8owen: He didn't seem too convinced about Alexei.
[13:36] spies8owen: In fact, I think he really wanted Dane out.
[13:37] spies8themba: He didn't, as far as I know anyway, put down any solid suspect. I know he hated Dane. Don't know if he wanted him out. It just rings a little odd.
[14:25] spies8themba: being grilled by zed = fun
[14:27] spies8owen: He's grilling you?
[14:27] spies8owen: He's never really IMed me.
[14:28] spies8themba: you're missing out
[14:28] spies8themba: seriously.
[14:28] spies8themba: riveting stuff.
[14:28] Meebo Message: Could not IM buddy
[14:29] spies8themba: [14:22] spies8zedekiah: right, so you reckon he was sure t' be scum, yet you changed yer vote t' me at the last second?
[14:23] spies8themba: no i am not sure if anyone is scum. the vote was 45/55, 50/50, 55/45 as my mind processed what you were saying in the chat. i went into that group chat voting for alexei. i came out of it voting for you. it wasn't the last second, it was an hour before exile commenced. you can also verify that by checking the current chat log.
[14:30] spies8owen: Only time we talked one on one was the night after he got raped with words. I made it known that I had a town lean on him then and that I was looking more that the people that were attacking him. He wasn't too receptive to that; not sure how to read it.
[14:30] spies8themba: [14:29] spies8zedekiah: do you have any regrets in the way ye voted?
[14:30] spies8themba: cute.
[14:35] spies8owen: Ohh, this is like a magazine interview or something.
[14:35] spies8owen: Cuuuuute.
[14:35] spies8themba: Hehehe.
[14:35] spies8owen: Q: Who is your inspiration?
[14:35] spies8themba: LMFAO
[14:35] spies8owen: Q: When did you know you wanted to play Spies?
[14:35] spies8themba: BAHAHA
[14:35] spies8themba: love it.
[14:35] spies8themba: I hope you don't get imprisoned. I'll cry.
[14:37] spies8owen: Me too.
[14:38] spies8owen: I'd miss you too, you've been good for laughs and for a good game chat.
[14:38] spies8themba: Awe.
[14:38] spies8themba: [14:32] spies8zedekiah: do you reckon that you've connected the case with alexi with anyone else?
[14:38] spies8themba: hehehehe
[14:41] spies8themba: Does this sound amateur/first time to you?
[14:41] spies8themba: 14:37] spies8themba: only one question at this point. why did you send the exact same message to sav, jenny and myself before exile?
[14:41] spies8themba: 14:39] spies8zedekiah: always cover yer bases, everyone knows why ye DO vote someone, but after their dead it's toolate t' know why ye didn't
[14:42] spies8themba: brb
[14:44] spies8owen: I didn't understand his response at all, hahaha.
[14:45] spies8themba: it's like he's saying that if he flipped cit, he'd use whatever we said in 'defending' him as evidence against us.
[14:45] spies8themba: that's kinda what i gather from it.
[14:46] spies8themba: but who knows, it's freaking zed.
[14:52] spies8owen: That makes sense. I really do have trouble understanding him.
[14:52] spies8owen: What Allan was saying about Nita fits more for Zed.
[14:52] spies8owen: Or maybe he really IS like this. *shivers*
[14:54] spies8themba: what was allan saying about nita?
[14:54] spies8themba: i missed that part.
[14:58] spies8owen: Allan said that she's the kinda character that hides behind bad English, etc.
[14:58] spies8owen: That was his first outburst, not from tonight.
[14:59] spies8themba: Ahh yeah that's right. I was thinking the same thing. It's gonna get annoying.
[15:00] spies8themba: I am curious to see his case on me though. If he does indeed build one.
[15:22] spies8owen: Sorry about that -- box didn't flash.
[15:22] spies8owen: Yeah, he says he's making a case on you right now (and others)
[15:22] spies8owen: And a post full of logic on catching spies and such.
[15:22] spies8owen: I'm looking forward to it.
[15:23] spies8owen: Hopefully he un-Zed's it a bit so I can fully understand.
[15:24] spies8themba: I am hoping it's been the most amusing thing so far. Everything has been so serious. Hopefully this will give me great cause to use LOL and actually physically LOL whilst reading.
[15:25] spies8owen: Hahahaha, that and actually give us some insight to what he's thinking.
[15:25] spies8owen: I haven't got much of a clue what's going on in his head.
[15:25] spies8themba: No, no idea. We shall see soon hopefully.
[15:43] spies8themba: see you later hun
[15:44] spies8owen: Night. I should be around before Imprisonment tomorrow.
[15:44] spies8owen: Not sure about after it, lmao
[15:44] spies8owen: but before, yes.
[15:44] spies8themba: Yeah hopefully I will be around too Byeee.
-=-
Thoughts:
- I hope he's not a Spy and doesn't get Imprisoned.
- I hope I don't get Imprisoned.
- Will keep analysing should we both survive tomorrow.