Group Chat - Episode 4
Jul 1, 2010 23:56:25 GMT -6
Post by Jenny on Jul 1, 2010 23:56:25 GMT -6
Starting off right after where the exile transcript leaves off.
[00:15] spies8lilith: Oh really?
[00:15] spies8jasmine: Your the one who asked me to vote Themba when I signed on. The vote being close between us two. . So for me, I'm unsure about Lilith.
[00:15] spies8jasmine: If her PM, her IM when i quickly signed on, etc was all to get me to swap. to save isaac, or what.
[00:15] spies8jasmine: and i need to go back to the chance stuff
[00:15] spies8broderick: You pushed Jasmine to change her vote to Themba
[00:15] spies8lilith: It was to save you, Jasmine.
[00:15] spies8jasmine: yes, but owen did end up voting isaac
[00:15] spies8jasmine: which i didnt notice till a bit after
[00:16] spies8lilith: Neither did I, i thought he was voting Themba.
[00:16] spies8isaac: I think I still need to meet some of you guys. Hope I get the chance in the next day or so
[00:16] Spies8Awohali: I can see will still not be getting any answers out of Jasmine. I am to retire for the night, and will be absent tomorrow. Farewell, everyone.
[00:16] spies8broderick: has left the chat
[00:16] spies8broderick: has joined the chat
[00:16] spies8isaac: Bye Awo
[00:16] spies8broderick: You thought Owen was going to vote for Themba, Jasmine?
[00:16] spies8lilith: I did.
[00:17] spies8lilith: I don't think I told Jasmine that Owen was.
[00:17] Spies8Awohali: Have a fruitful weekend, and may your endeavors be successful.
[00:17] spies8jasmine: I didn't know, tbh. I signed on like 20-3 0 minutes before votes were due
[00:17] Spies8Awohali: has left the chat
[00:17] spies8jasmine: and heard it was themba vs me.
[00:17] spies8jasmine: basically
[00:17] spies8lilith: I did tell Jasmine to vote for Themba, I didn't think Jasmine was a spy.
[00:17] spies8broderick: Even though he said he was voting for Isaac?
[00:17] spies8jasmine: What are you talking about Broderick?
[00:17] spies8jasmine: we both just said we didnt know he was voting isaac
[00:17] spies8lilith: Broderick, I honestly think your theory that I am a spy because I got immunity is invalid.
[00:17] spies8gertrude: Oh brave new world! That has such people in it!
[00:17] spies8lilith: If that is what you think, ask people who they voted for.
[00:18] spies8broderick: I don't think you are a spy because you got immunity
[00:18] spies8broderick: I never said that
[00:18] spies8lilith: You said you thought spies were at work because of it.
[00:18] spies8isaac: Why not ask claude right now who the spies are? It will save us all time since apparently he always knows...lol
[00:18] spies8broderick: That isn't calling you a spy Lilith
[00:18] spies8lilith: Then you tried to grill me about it.
[00:19] spies8lilith: I asked you if you thought spies were trying to give it to me because I am a spy or I am not a target and you nevre responded.
[00:19] spies8cory: Alright all. Philosoraptor out. I'll try talking to each of you individually over the next few days.
[00:19] spies8isaac: Bye Cory
[00:19] spies8cory: Owen, Philosoprepare
[00:19] spies8broderick: Jasmine, I am wondering why it was thought that Owen was not voting for Isaac
[00:19] spies8cory: has left the chat
[00:19] spies8jasmine: It wasnt
[00:19] spies8jasmine: we didnt mention names
[00:19] spies8jasmine: of who owen was voting for
[00:19] spies8jasmine: or not voting for
[00:20] spies8broderick: When did you say that Lilith?
[00:20] spies8broderick: I don't see that in this chat transcript
[00:20] spies8jasmine: spies8lilith 10:12 pm
(10:33:10 PM): [Offline IM sent 21m ago] BITCH GET ONLINE
(10:33:10 PM): [Offline IM sent 21m ago] I DONT WANT YOU OUT
(10:33:10 PM): [Offline IM sent 21m ago] lol
(10:33:12 PM): [Offline IM sent 20m ago] In case you do get online at the last minute. Quick summary: I'm damn sure Isaac and Themba are spies. Change your vote to Themba if you can. The votes are going to be between you and her it looks like.
(10:33:23 PM): YAY!
[00:20] spies8lilith: I said it to u in private
[00:20] spies8jasmine: 5 lines of lilith telling me to change my vote
[00:21] spies8lilith: Yes.
[00:21] spies8zedekiah: It's late, I'm off fer the night, meet y'all later!
[00:21] spies8Nita: Why you care so much bout Jasmine over Magalie?
[00:21] spies8broderick: Quote it then, because like I just said. I don't see it in this transcript. This transcript being our private conversation
[00:21] spies8zedekiah: has left the chat
[00:21] spies8jasmine: She thinks I was a cit, Nita.
[00:21] spies8jasmine: Magalie?
[00:21] spies8broderick: spies8lilith (20:44:14): I didn't apply great pressure to convince her.
[00:21] spies8jasmine: huh?
[00:22] spies8broderick: That isn't grwat pressure to convince her Lilith?
[00:22] spies8lilith: I didn't run into any resistance.
[00:22] spies8lilith: So now, I wouldn't say great pressure.
[00:22] spies8lilith: I think pushing someone would be them saying "No" and me keeping PUSHING them to do so.
[00:22] spies8lilith: *no
[00:23] spies8jasmine: I voted for Lilith to win Immunity.
[00:23] spies8broderick: lol whut. Are you changing your story?
[00:23] spies8jasmine: I thought, and still do think, she is a citizen.
[00:23] spies8lilith: What did I change?
[00:23] spies8jasmine: And I think she will easily be considered for imprisonment if she wasn't immuned.
[00:23] spies8jasmine:
[00:23] spies8jasmine: So i trusted her judgement.
[00:23] spies8broderick: you outright told her to switch her vote
[00:24] spies8lilith: Yes, I have said that.
[00:24] spies8lilith: Why are you repeating whay I have already said several timse?
[00:24] spies8lilith: *what
[00:24] spies8lilith: I feel like you are trying to turn this into something that we did scummy, when we are outright being honest with you.
[00:24] spies8lilith: I don't feel like I PUSHED her or applied great pressure. She didn't resist to the idea of changing to Themba.
[00:25] spies8jasmine: It's not like I thought Themba was citizen anyway, the girl was obviously scummy. and I was already fed up with her questions in her thread to me
[00:25] spies8jasmine: So it wouldnt have taken much convincing even if I wasn't being voted on. imo.
[00:26] spies8broderick: I just find it extremely interesting
[00:28] spies8broderick: I also find it interesting that you have yet to quote the part I asked for Lilith
[00:28] spies8lilith: I was looking for it.
[00:28] spies8broderick: It isn't a long chat transcript lol
[00:28] spies8lilith: I remember typing it, I may not have changed my mind, or I may have sent it to someone else, lol.
[00:28] ra1ndrops2day: has left the chat
[00:29] spies8broderick: So someone else thought spies were involved with your immunity choice/
[00:29] spies8lilith: No
[00:29] spies8lilith: I just may have sent it to the wrong person
[00:29] spies8broderick: Then why would you be asking that question to someone else if no one else thought so?
[00:29] spies8lilith: I may have sent it to someone else *on accident.
[00:30] spies8lilith: I do not see it, so I must not have said it, but I do remember typing it.
[00:30] spies8broderick: Are you looking for that?
[00:30] spies8isaac: Ok all, just got of the phone with friends and hitting up a movie. Someone please pot this chat transcript later as I am in terested to see where this conversation goes. Hope you all have a awesome night!
[00:30] spies8isaac: has left the chat
[00:30] spies8broderick: It seemed to me like you were waiting to make that argument. As soon as I said I thought spies were involved, you IMed me
[00:31] spies8lilith: I was just curious as to what you meant.
[00:31] spies8lilith: Do you honestly think spies were involved?
[00:31] spies8broderick: I don't think you were or are a logical choice for Imprisonment, so yes.
[00:31] spies8lilith: Then why don't you, like I said twice now, ask people who they voted for.
[00:31] spies8lilith: If you really thought that then find out.
[00:31] spies8lilith: It's not that hard
[00:31] spies8broderick: For spies to be completely hands free with the decisions, I don't think are very small odds
[00:31] spies8lilith: Unless, you are a spy and already know it isn't the case.
[00:32] spies8broderick: Now you think I am a spy?
[00:33] spies8lilith: No, I am, however, annoyed with your questions and how you attack me with them.
[00:33] spies8broderick: I am not attacking you Lilith. I am asking you questions
[00:33] spies8lilith: I am at the point where I don't know who any of the spies are and feel like I need to rethink everyone.
[00:33] spies8lilith: You are asking me questions in an attacking way.
[00:33] spies8broderick: No I'm not
[00:34] spies8lilith: spies8broderick (12:22:43 AM): lol whut. Are you changing your story?
[00:34] spies8broderick: If I were attacking you, you would have no doubts about it.
[00:34] spies8broderick: I am not attacking you. That is asking if you are changing your story.
[00:34] spies8lilith: spies8broderick (12:28:04 AM): It isn't a long chat transcript lol
[00:34] spies8broderick: Please explain how those are attacking you
[00:34] spies8lilith: But I didn't say anything different.
[00:35] spies8lilith: What part do you think I was changing?
[00:35] spies8lilith: To me it is attacking because you are asking questions that I do not understand where you are getting your logic from.
[00:36] spies8broderick: spies8lilith (21:22:47): I didn't run into any resistance.
spies8lilith (21:22:52): So now, I wouldn't say great pressure.
[00:37] spies8broderick: Or is that 'now' a typo?
[00:37] spies8lilith: Yes, I corrected it in the next line or to.
[00:37] spies8jasmine: You are attacking, and this entire conversation is poinltess. new topic?
[00:37] spies8jasmine: -_-
[00:37] spies8lilith: Although I do see now why you thought that question.
[00:37] spies8broderick: Because you don't understand something, it is considered attacking?
[00:37] spies8broderick: I am not attacking anyone
[00:37] spies8jasmine: mmk.
[00:38] spies8broderick: Seriously, I am not attacking anyone. Nor do I like the accusations that I am attacking.
[00:38] spies8lilith: I can agree yes, you could be attacking me more harshly per the "if you were attacking me I would know".
[00:39] spies8broderick: I am not attacking you at all
[00:40] spies8lilith: You are asking me questions rapid-fire in an accusatory fashion.
[00:40] spies8jasmine: Nita, nice to meet you btw! We haven't been on the same team yet. How are you gurl? Liking the game so far?
[00:42] spies8broderick: That would be more grilling than attacking Lilith.
[00:42] spies8lilith: I thought grilling was the more severe one?
[00:42] spies8broderick: I am not being hostile, I am not being violent.
[00:42] spies8lilith: I agree .
[00:42] spies8broderick: Not that I am aware of.
[00:42] spies8jenny: Oh wow, super burg merge.
[00:43] spies8lilith: Had you grilled me earlier and had suspcions on me Broderick, maybe you would have the immunity and not me . I think you may be jealous I got it and not you, lol.
[00:44] spies8broderick: No I'm not jealous.
[00:44] spies8broderick: I simply don't agree with it. I don't think you are a logical choice to be imprisoned
[00:44] spies8lilith: I don't know why I said any of that . I felt like being mean for being grilled, rofl.
[00:44] spies8broderick: You yourself agreed with it
[00:44] spies8lilith: Ask everyone else then.
[00:44] spies8lilith: I agree I am a logical choice.
[00:44] spies8lilith: I would HOPE I'm not a logicial choice.
[00:44] spies8jasmine: I think she is logical. The girl seems like a pure cit to me so far.
[00:44] spies8lilith: I want to argue I'm not a logical choice so that the spies don't kill me.
[00:45] spies8jasmine: Nobody had any case on Lilith, did they?
[00:45] spies8jasmine: Nobody ever spoke of voting her this past time.
[00:45] spies8jasmine: That i can remember
[00:45] spies8broderick: spies8lilith (20:14:42): Although, in all honesty, even if every single person thought I was town, I don't think I'd be a target THIS imprisonment.
[00:45] spies8lilith: For me to be imprisoned: Most people think I am a citizen read, why I don't think I should be imprisoned: I am new and haven't been a huge threat yet and I'm not good at argueing my point of view
[00:46] spies8claude: It was Lilith and Tina that are immune from the next imprisoment, right?
[00:46] spies8lilith: Correct.
[00:46] spies8claude: But Owen got the 'big prize'
[00:47] spies8claude: Nice planning.
[00:47] spies8lilith: The big prize winner couldn't get immune
[00:47] spies8lilith: We sent in three votes
[00:47] spies8jasmine: the big prize winner is immuned as well
[00:47] spies8claude: Ah okay.
[00:47] spies8jasmine: i think
[00:47] spies8broderick: Owen is immune for imprisonment 4 and 5
[00:47] spies8lilith: he is
[00:47] spies8jenny: He is.
[00:47] spies8claude: Right right, I spaced that.
[00:47] spies8jenny: But they weren't told that at the time.
[00:47] spies8lilith: We were?
[00:47] spies8broderick: Yes we were
[00:47] spies8lilith: Someone told us in a chat.
[00:47] spies8lilith: I don't think we were told it originally
[00:47] spies8broderick: Sam posted it in the information thread
[00:48] spies8lilith: Because I didn't remember it
[00:48] spies8broderick: I even linked you to it Lilith
[00:48] spies8jenny: Sammy first said Owen was immune from 4 and 5 before bringing up dictatorship.
[00:48] spies8lilith: I mean, I don't think when Sam first announced the prize, that he said the Power was immunity.
[00:48] spies8jasmine: no, we were told
[00:48] spies8lilith: I didn't know it until it was discussed in chat.
[00:48] spies8broderick: The Power is not immunity
[00:48] spies8lilith: --_--
[00:48] spies8lilith: You are misunderstanding me.
[00:49] spies8broderick: The selected would get immunity AND power
[00:49] spies8jasmine: from reading the thread, it seemed like the "ultimate power" winner would be safe from imprisonments as well.
[00:49] spies8broderick: In addition to this huge power, they will be made Immune from Imprisonment 4 and Immune from Imprisonment 5.
[00:49] spies8lilith: I am trying to say that I do not think that Sam mentioned in his original announcement that the person who won the Ultimate Power would be immune.
[00:49] spies8cinnamyn: y did rondak vote no exile
[00:49] spies8broderick: He did
[00:49] spies8cinnamyn: pussy
[00:49] spies8lilith: In his CHAT announcement Brod.
[00:49] spies8jenny: Yeah he didn't originally say they would be.
[00:49] spies8lilith: I think that is what you are misunderstanding.
[00:49] spies8lilith: Thank you Jenny.
[00:50] spies8claude: Well, we talked about it a little bit(voting No Exile)
[00:50] spies8jenny: Rondie voted no exile because apparently someone at his job nearly died and he wasn't in a good mood to go over suspects.
[00:50] spies8broderick: How does that make a difference, when he posted about it in the thread announcing the challenge?
[00:50] spies8cinnamyn: ah, ok
[00:50] spies8jenny: So he put up a no exile vote and decided to just go to bed.
[00:50] spies8jenny: At least that's what he told me.
[00:50] spies8lilith: Because that is what someone asked about.
[00:50] spies8cinnamyn: ill give him da benefit of da doubt on dat 1
[00:53] spies8cinnamyn: has left the chat
[00:54] spies8jasmine: I think I'm heading off, bye.
[00:54] spies8jasmine: has left the chat
[00:55] spies8gertrude: has left the chat
[00:55] spies8gertrude: has joined the chat
[00:59] spies8broderick: Hi Gertie
[00:59] spies8gertrude: Hey there!
[00:59] spies8gertrude: Sorry, my internet connection died out for a bit.
[01:04] spies8broderick: So Gertie how come you were on all three 'lynch' wagons?
[01:04] spies8jenny: Does Maggie even count really, since she's still here?
[01:05] spies8gertrude: Well, Broderick, I voted for the people I thought were Spies.
[01:06] spies8broderick: That is why i put it in quotes, since Magalie was only a nomination and not a full lynch
[01:06] spies8lilith: I've made a suggestion for the doctor... spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=819
[01:06] spies8lilith:
[01:06] spies8lilith: Since we're merged now, it's safe to assume those two people can talk now.
[01:07] spies8claude: The saved person should actually just reveal themselves, shrug.
[01:07] spies8claude: The Spies already know who it is.
[01:07] spies8claude: And they can't actually lie about it.
[01:08] spies8lilith: That's what I said, but people on my team kept saying that'd be bad.
[01:08] spies8claude: Why would that be bad...
[01:08] spies8lilith: Although, rethinking, if Gave WAS the Doctor, and no one comes forward, and we strongly insist that the saved do, it may signal to the mafia that they got correctly.
[01:09] spies8claude: It sucks that roles aren't revealed upon death..doesn't make alot of sense.
[01:09] spies8lilith: I forget the exact reasons to be honest.
[01:09] spies8jenny: Spies has always done that, so it's not really surprising.
[01:09] spies8claude: Ah okay.
[01:09] spies8claude: Well, it still sucks.
[01:09] spies8jenny: Well you should have known that would happen coming into it
[01:10] spies8lilith: Jenny has played before lol
[01:10] spies8claude: I didn't participate/read in previous spies games.
[01:10] spies8jenny: Well that's not my fault
[01:11] spies8lilith: Is it bad if I am just considering being lazy for awhile and let other, more smarter people accuse? I feel kind of discouraged that I messed up and unconfident in myself.
[01:11] spies8lilith: Before, I thought I had a good grip on the game, now I just don't know what to think.
[01:11] spies8lilith: Getting the lynch wrong makes me question the people that supported me in it.
[01:12] spies8claude: Ah
[01:12] spies8claude: You can't let the game get to you that way.
[01:12] spies8lilith: I know it probably sounds spyish for me to say I'm going to be lazy, LOL.
[01:12] spies8lilith: I don't think I will get lazy, I just feel very discouraged right now and like doing nothing.
[01:12] spies8claude: I probably know that feeling, heh.
[01:12] spies8lilith: If things had gone right, I'd probably be messaging all of you getting my initial read on yall.
[01:12] spies8claude: You just have to brush yourself off and keep going.
[01:13] spies8claude: You can help me get Spisaac lynched.
[01:13] spies8lilith: I also probably won't be online that much for the next couple of days anyways though...
[01:13] spies8lilith: I don't know about isaac anymore!
[01:13] spies8lilith: Part of it had to do with Themba being with him.
[01:13] spies8claude: Nah
[01:13] spies8claude: when you start out a post talking bad about someone, and then end up voting the same person.
[01:14] spies8claude: It absolutely reeks of insincerity.
[01:14] spies8claude: rather
[01:14] spies8claude: The same person that person is voting.
[01:23] spies8Nita: has left the chat
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[01:23] sorintheseeker: has left the chat
[01:25] spies8lilith: has left the chat
[01:25] spies8lilith: has joined the chat
[01:35] spies8broderick: Chat problems?
[01:38] spies8lilith: who? XD
[01:38] spies8lilith: I know I disconnected once, lol
[01:42] spies8broderick: It said Nita left and entered. The Sam left, then you left and entered
[01:42] spies8broderick: lol. a lot of exits and entrances
[01:42] spies8lilith:
[01:42] spies8lilith: We wanted to get some air .
[01:42] spies8claude: I saw people exit/enter. But not myself.
[01:42] spies8lilith: lol
[01:43] spies8lilith: I've only seen Nita do it XD
[01:45] spies8claude: I saw Nita and you, and Sam just leave period.
[00:15] spies8lilith: Oh really?
[00:15] spies8jasmine: Your the one who asked me to vote Themba when I signed on. The vote being close between us two. . So for me, I'm unsure about Lilith.
[00:15] spies8jasmine: If her PM, her IM when i quickly signed on, etc was all to get me to swap. to save isaac, or what.
[00:15] spies8jasmine: and i need to go back to the chance stuff
[00:15] spies8broderick: You pushed Jasmine to change her vote to Themba
[00:15] spies8lilith: It was to save you, Jasmine.
[00:15] spies8jasmine: yes, but owen did end up voting isaac
[00:15] spies8jasmine: which i didnt notice till a bit after
[00:16] spies8lilith: Neither did I, i thought he was voting Themba.
[00:16] spies8isaac: I think I still need to meet some of you guys. Hope I get the chance in the next day or so
[00:16] Spies8Awohali: I can see will still not be getting any answers out of Jasmine. I am to retire for the night, and will be absent tomorrow. Farewell, everyone.
[00:16] spies8broderick: has left the chat
[00:16] spies8broderick: has joined the chat
[00:16] spies8isaac: Bye Awo
[00:16] spies8broderick: You thought Owen was going to vote for Themba, Jasmine?
[00:16] spies8lilith: I did.
[00:17] spies8lilith: I don't think I told Jasmine that Owen was.
[00:17] Spies8Awohali: Have a fruitful weekend, and may your endeavors be successful.
[00:17] spies8jasmine: I didn't know, tbh. I signed on like 20-3 0 minutes before votes were due
[00:17] Spies8Awohali: has left the chat
[00:17] spies8jasmine: and heard it was themba vs me.
[00:17] spies8jasmine: basically
[00:17] spies8lilith: I did tell Jasmine to vote for Themba, I didn't think Jasmine was a spy.
[00:17] spies8broderick: Even though he said he was voting for Isaac?
[00:17] spies8jasmine: What are you talking about Broderick?
[00:17] spies8jasmine: we both just said we didnt know he was voting isaac
[00:17] spies8lilith: Broderick, I honestly think your theory that I am a spy because I got immunity is invalid.
[00:17] spies8gertrude: Oh brave new world! That has such people in it!
[00:17] spies8lilith: If that is what you think, ask people who they voted for.
[00:18] spies8broderick: I don't think you are a spy because you got immunity
[00:18] spies8broderick: I never said that
[00:18] spies8lilith: You said you thought spies were at work because of it.
[00:18] spies8isaac: Why not ask claude right now who the spies are? It will save us all time since apparently he always knows...lol
[00:18] spies8broderick: That isn't calling you a spy Lilith
[00:18] spies8lilith: Then you tried to grill me about it.
[00:19] spies8lilith: I asked you if you thought spies were trying to give it to me because I am a spy or I am not a target and you nevre responded.
[00:19] spies8cory: Alright all. Philosoraptor out. I'll try talking to each of you individually over the next few days.
[00:19] spies8isaac: Bye Cory
[00:19] spies8cory: Owen, Philosoprepare
[00:19] spies8broderick: Jasmine, I am wondering why it was thought that Owen was not voting for Isaac
[00:19] spies8cory: has left the chat
[00:19] spies8jasmine: It wasnt
[00:19] spies8jasmine: we didnt mention names
[00:19] spies8jasmine: of who owen was voting for
[00:19] spies8jasmine: or not voting for
[00:20] spies8broderick: When did you say that Lilith?
[00:20] spies8broderick: I don't see that in this chat transcript
[00:20] spies8jasmine: spies8lilith 10:12 pm
(10:33:10 PM): [Offline IM sent 21m ago] BITCH GET ONLINE
(10:33:10 PM): [Offline IM sent 21m ago] I DONT WANT YOU OUT
(10:33:10 PM): [Offline IM sent 21m ago] lol
(10:33:12 PM): [Offline IM sent 20m ago] In case you do get online at the last minute. Quick summary: I'm damn sure Isaac and Themba are spies. Change your vote to Themba if you can. The votes are going to be between you and her it looks like.
(10:33:23 PM): YAY!
[00:20] spies8lilith: I said it to u in private
[00:20] spies8jasmine: 5 lines of lilith telling me to change my vote
[00:21] spies8lilith: Yes.
[00:21] spies8zedekiah: It's late, I'm off fer the night, meet y'all later!
[00:21] spies8Nita: Why you care so much bout Jasmine over Magalie?
[00:21] spies8broderick: Quote it then, because like I just said. I don't see it in this transcript. This transcript being our private conversation
[00:21] spies8zedekiah: has left the chat
[00:21] spies8jasmine: She thinks I was a cit, Nita.
[00:21] spies8jasmine: Magalie?
[00:21] spies8broderick: spies8lilith (20:44:14): I didn't apply great pressure to convince her.
[00:21] spies8jasmine: huh?
[00:22] spies8broderick: That isn't grwat pressure to convince her Lilith?
[00:22] spies8lilith: I didn't run into any resistance.
[00:22] spies8lilith: So now, I wouldn't say great pressure.
[00:22] spies8lilith: I think pushing someone would be them saying "No" and me keeping PUSHING them to do so.
[00:22] spies8lilith: *no
[00:23] spies8jasmine: I voted for Lilith to win Immunity.
[00:23] spies8broderick: lol whut. Are you changing your story?
[00:23] spies8jasmine: I thought, and still do think, she is a citizen.
[00:23] spies8lilith: What did I change?
[00:23] spies8jasmine: And I think she will easily be considered for imprisonment if she wasn't immuned.
[00:23] spies8jasmine:
[00:23] spies8jasmine: So i trusted her judgement.
[00:23] spies8broderick: you outright told her to switch her vote
[00:24] spies8lilith: Yes, I have said that.
[00:24] spies8lilith: Why are you repeating whay I have already said several timse?
[00:24] spies8lilith: *what
[00:24] spies8lilith: I feel like you are trying to turn this into something that we did scummy, when we are outright being honest with you.
[00:24] spies8lilith: I don't feel like I PUSHED her or applied great pressure. She didn't resist to the idea of changing to Themba.
[00:25] spies8jasmine: It's not like I thought Themba was citizen anyway, the girl was obviously scummy. and I was already fed up with her questions in her thread to me
[00:25] spies8jasmine: So it wouldnt have taken much convincing even if I wasn't being voted on. imo.
[00:26] spies8broderick: I just find it extremely interesting
[00:28] spies8broderick: I also find it interesting that you have yet to quote the part I asked for Lilith
[00:28] spies8lilith: I was looking for it.
[00:28] spies8broderick: It isn't a long chat transcript lol
[00:28] spies8lilith: I remember typing it, I may not have changed my mind, or I may have sent it to someone else, lol.
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[00:29] spies8broderick: So someone else thought spies were involved with your immunity choice/
[00:29] spies8lilith: No
[00:29] spies8lilith: I just may have sent it to the wrong person
[00:29] spies8broderick: Then why would you be asking that question to someone else if no one else thought so?
[00:29] spies8lilith: I may have sent it to someone else *on accident.
[00:30] spies8lilith: I do not see it, so I must not have said it, but I do remember typing it.
[00:30] spies8broderick: Are you looking for that?
[00:30] spies8isaac: Ok all, just got of the phone with friends and hitting up a movie. Someone please pot this chat transcript later as I am in terested to see where this conversation goes. Hope you all have a awesome night!
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[00:30] spies8broderick: It seemed to me like you were waiting to make that argument. As soon as I said I thought spies were involved, you IMed me
[00:31] spies8lilith: I was just curious as to what you meant.
[00:31] spies8lilith: Do you honestly think spies were involved?
[00:31] spies8broderick: I don't think you were or are a logical choice for Imprisonment, so yes.
[00:31] spies8lilith: Then why don't you, like I said twice now, ask people who they voted for.
[00:31] spies8lilith: If you really thought that then find out.
[00:31] spies8lilith: It's not that hard
[00:31] spies8broderick: For spies to be completely hands free with the decisions, I don't think are very small odds
[00:31] spies8lilith: Unless, you are a spy and already know it isn't the case.
[00:32] spies8broderick: Now you think I am a spy?
[00:33] spies8lilith: No, I am, however, annoyed with your questions and how you attack me with them.
[00:33] spies8broderick: I am not attacking you Lilith. I am asking you questions
[00:33] spies8lilith: I am at the point where I don't know who any of the spies are and feel like I need to rethink everyone.
[00:33] spies8lilith: You are asking me questions in an attacking way.
[00:33] spies8broderick: No I'm not
[00:34] spies8lilith: spies8broderick (12:22:43 AM): lol whut. Are you changing your story?
[00:34] spies8broderick: If I were attacking you, you would have no doubts about it.
[00:34] spies8broderick: I am not attacking you. That is asking if you are changing your story.
[00:34] spies8lilith: spies8broderick (12:28:04 AM): It isn't a long chat transcript lol
[00:34] spies8broderick: Please explain how those are attacking you
[00:34] spies8lilith: But I didn't say anything different.
[00:35] spies8lilith: What part do you think I was changing?
[00:35] spies8lilith: To me it is attacking because you are asking questions that I do not understand where you are getting your logic from.
[00:36] spies8broderick: spies8lilith (21:22:47): I didn't run into any resistance.
spies8lilith (21:22:52): So now, I wouldn't say great pressure.
[00:37] spies8broderick: Or is that 'now' a typo?
[00:37] spies8lilith: Yes, I corrected it in the next line or to.
[00:37] spies8jasmine: You are attacking, and this entire conversation is poinltess. new topic?
[00:37] spies8jasmine: -_-
[00:37] spies8lilith: Although I do see now why you thought that question.
[00:37] spies8broderick: Because you don't understand something, it is considered attacking?
[00:37] spies8broderick: I am not attacking anyone
[00:37] spies8jasmine: mmk.
[00:38] spies8broderick: Seriously, I am not attacking anyone. Nor do I like the accusations that I am attacking.
[00:38] spies8lilith: I can agree yes, you could be attacking me more harshly per the "if you were attacking me I would know".
[00:39] spies8broderick: I am not attacking you at all
[00:40] spies8lilith: You are asking me questions rapid-fire in an accusatory fashion.
[00:40] spies8jasmine: Nita, nice to meet you btw! We haven't been on the same team yet. How are you gurl? Liking the game so far?
[00:42] spies8broderick: That would be more grilling than attacking Lilith.
[00:42] spies8lilith: I thought grilling was the more severe one?
[00:42] spies8broderick: I am not being hostile, I am not being violent.
[00:42] spies8lilith: I agree .
[00:42] spies8broderick: Not that I am aware of.
[00:42] spies8jenny: Oh wow, super burg merge.
[00:43] spies8lilith: Had you grilled me earlier and had suspcions on me Broderick, maybe you would have the immunity and not me . I think you may be jealous I got it and not you, lol.
[00:44] spies8broderick: No I'm not jealous.
[00:44] spies8broderick: I simply don't agree with it. I don't think you are a logical choice to be imprisoned
[00:44] spies8lilith: I don't know why I said any of that . I felt like being mean for being grilled, rofl.
[00:44] spies8broderick: You yourself agreed with it
[00:44] spies8lilith: Ask everyone else then.
[00:44] spies8lilith: I agree I am a logical choice.
[00:44] spies8lilith: I would HOPE I'm not a logicial choice.
[00:44] spies8jasmine: I think she is logical. The girl seems like a pure cit to me so far.
[00:44] spies8lilith: I want to argue I'm not a logical choice so that the spies don't kill me.
[00:45] spies8jasmine: Nobody had any case on Lilith, did they?
[00:45] spies8jasmine: Nobody ever spoke of voting her this past time.
[00:45] spies8jasmine: That i can remember
[00:45] spies8broderick: spies8lilith (20:14:42): Although, in all honesty, even if every single person thought I was town, I don't think I'd be a target THIS imprisonment.
[00:45] spies8lilith: For me to be imprisoned: Most people think I am a citizen read, why I don't think I should be imprisoned: I am new and haven't been a huge threat yet and I'm not good at argueing my point of view
[00:46] spies8claude: It was Lilith and Tina that are immune from the next imprisoment, right?
[00:46] spies8lilith: Correct.
[00:46] spies8claude: But Owen got the 'big prize'
[00:47] spies8claude: Nice planning.
[00:47] spies8lilith: The big prize winner couldn't get immune
[00:47] spies8lilith: We sent in three votes
[00:47] spies8jasmine: the big prize winner is immuned as well
[00:47] spies8claude: Ah okay.
[00:47] spies8jasmine: i think
[00:47] spies8broderick: Owen is immune for imprisonment 4 and 5
[00:47] spies8lilith: he is
[00:47] spies8jenny: He is.
[00:47] spies8claude: Right right, I spaced that.
[00:47] spies8jenny: But they weren't told that at the time.
[00:47] spies8lilith: We were?
[00:47] spies8broderick: Yes we were
[00:47] spies8lilith: Someone told us in a chat.
[00:47] spies8lilith: I don't think we were told it originally
[00:47] spies8broderick: Sam posted it in the information thread
[00:48] spies8lilith: Because I didn't remember it
[00:48] spies8broderick: I even linked you to it Lilith
[00:48] spies8jenny: Sammy first said Owen was immune from 4 and 5 before bringing up dictatorship.
[00:48] spies8lilith: I mean, I don't think when Sam first announced the prize, that he said the Power was immunity.
[00:48] spies8jasmine: no, we were told
[00:48] spies8lilith: I didn't know it until it was discussed in chat.
[00:48] spies8broderick: The Power is not immunity
[00:48] spies8lilith: --_--
[00:48] spies8lilith: You are misunderstanding me.
[00:49] spies8broderick: The selected would get immunity AND power
[00:49] spies8jasmine: from reading the thread, it seemed like the "ultimate power" winner would be safe from imprisonments as well.
[00:49] spies8broderick: In addition to this huge power, they will be made Immune from Imprisonment 4 and Immune from Imprisonment 5.
[00:49] spies8lilith: I am trying to say that I do not think that Sam mentioned in his original announcement that the person who won the Ultimate Power would be immune.
[00:49] spies8cinnamyn: y did rondak vote no exile
[00:49] spies8broderick: He did
[00:49] spies8cinnamyn: pussy
[00:49] spies8lilith: In his CHAT announcement Brod.
[00:49] spies8jenny: Yeah he didn't originally say they would be.
[00:49] spies8lilith: I think that is what you are misunderstanding.
[00:49] spies8lilith: Thank you Jenny.
[00:50] spies8claude: Well, we talked about it a little bit(voting No Exile)
[00:50] spies8jenny: Rondie voted no exile because apparently someone at his job nearly died and he wasn't in a good mood to go over suspects.
[00:50] spies8broderick: How does that make a difference, when he posted about it in the thread announcing the challenge?
[00:50] spies8cinnamyn: ah, ok
[00:50] spies8jenny: So he put up a no exile vote and decided to just go to bed.
[00:50] spies8jenny: At least that's what he told me.
[00:50] spies8lilith: Because that is what someone asked about.
[00:50] spies8cinnamyn: ill give him da benefit of da doubt on dat 1
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[00:54] spies8jasmine: I think I'm heading off, bye.
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[00:59] spies8broderick: Hi Gertie
[00:59] spies8gertrude: Hey there!
[00:59] spies8gertrude: Sorry, my internet connection died out for a bit.
[01:04] spies8broderick: So Gertie how come you were on all three 'lynch' wagons?
[01:04] spies8jenny: Does Maggie even count really, since she's still here?
[01:05] spies8gertrude: Well, Broderick, I voted for the people I thought were Spies.
[01:06] spies8broderick: That is why i put it in quotes, since Magalie was only a nomination and not a full lynch
[01:06] spies8lilith: I've made a suggestion for the doctor... spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=819
[01:06] spies8lilith:
[01:06] spies8lilith: Since we're merged now, it's safe to assume those two people can talk now.
[01:07] spies8claude: The saved person should actually just reveal themselves, shrug.
[01:07] spies8claude: The Spies already know who it is.
[01:07] spies8claude: And they can't actually lie about it.
[01:08] spies8lilith: That's what I said, but people on my team kept saying that'd be bad.
[01:08] spies8claude: Why would that be bad...
[01:08] spies8lilith: Although, rethinking, if Gave WAS the Doctor, and no one comes forward, and we strongly insist that the saved do, it may signal to the mafia that they got correctly.
[01:09] spies8claude: It sucks that roles aren't revealed upon death..doesn't make alot of sense.
[01:09] spies8lilith: I forget the exact reasons to be honest.
[01:09] spies8jenny: Spies has always done that, so it's not really surprising.
[01:09] spies8claude: Ah okay.
[01:09] spies8claude: Well, it still sucks.
[01:09] spies8jenny: Well you should have known that would happen coming into it
[01:10] spies8lilith: Jenny has played before lol
[01:10] spies8claude: I didn't participate/read in previous spies games.
[01:10] spies8jenny: Well that's not my fault
[01:11] spies8lilith: Is it bad if I am just considering being lazy for awhile and let other, more smarter people accuse? I feel kind of discouraged that I messed up and unconfident in myself.
[01:11] spies8lilith: Before, I thought I had a good grip on the game, now I just don't know what to think.
[01:11] spies8lilith: Getting the lynch wrong makes me question the people that supported me in it.
[01:12] spies8claude: Ah
[01:12] spies8claude: You can't let the game get to you that way.
[01:12] spies8lilith: I know it probably sounds spyish for me to say I'm going to be lazy, LOL.
[01:12] spies8lilith: I don't think I will get lazy, I just feel very discouraged right now and like doing nothing.
[01:12] spies8claude: I probably know that feeling, heh.
[01:12] spies8lilith: If things had gone right, I'd probably be messaging all of you getting my initial read on yall.
[01:12] spies8claude: You just have to brush yourself off and keep going.
[01:13] spies8claude: You can help me get Spisaac lynched.
[01:13] spies8lilith: I also probably won't be online that much for the next couple of days anyways though...
[01:13] spies8lilith: I don't know about isaac anymore!
[01:13] spies8lilith: Part of it had to do with Themba being with him.
[01:13] spies8claude: Nah
[01:13] spies8claude: when you start out a post talking bad about someone, and then end up voting the same person.
[01:14] spies8claude: It absolutely reeks of insincerity.
[01:14] spies8claude: rather
[01:14] spies8claude: The same person that person is voting.
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[01:35] spies8broderick: Chat problems?
[01:38] spies8lilith: who? XD
[01:38] spies8lilith: I know I disconnected once, lol
[01:42] spies8broderick: It said Nita left and entered. The Sam left, then you left and entered
[01:42] spies8broderick: lol. a lot of exits and entrances
[01:42] spies8lilith:
[01:42] spies8lilith: We wanted to get some air .
[01:42] spies8claude: I saw people exit/enter. But not myself.
[01:42] spies8lilith: lol
[01:43] spies8lilith: I've only seen Nita do it XD
[01:45] spies8claude: I saw Nita and you, and Sam just leave period.