Episode 10 conversations

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8chance at 8/9/2010 7:09:15 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(7:09:26 PM) spies8stephanie: hi chance
(7:09:37 PM) spies8chance: 'sup steph.
(7:10:00 PM) spies8stephanie: i was surprised when mary voted you
(7:10:05 PM) spies8stephanie: but i guess it made sense
(7:10:06 PM) spies8chance: i wasn't. i asked her to.
(7:10:08 PM) spies8chance: :-P
(7:10:20 PM) spies8stephanie: so you are you going to make immune?
(7:10:30 PM) spies8chance: so *who?
(7:10:39 PM) spies8stephanie: who*
(7:10:44 PM) spies8chance: if i live through imprisonment, dane.
(7:11:11 PM) spies8stephanie: dane? why him?
(7:11:52 PM) spies8chance: to focus attention on kiara and rondak this round. if dane is a spy, we have bigger fish to fry than him (he's lurking and not doing anything to help himself). if dane is a citizen, he's a possible spy mislynch i want to push off the table.
(7:12:50 PM) spies8stephanie: kiara?
(7:13:33 PM) spies8chance: the fact that she ended up voting for rondak instead of cinnamyn at exile pretty much settles me on that she's a spy.
(7:13:46 PM) spies8chance: probably the most dangerous alive right now, if i'm right and the spies are kiara, rondak, dane/jasmine.
(7:14:14 PM) spies8stephanie: did you encourage her to vote rondak?
(7:14:41 PM) spies8chance: i did... and she ended up defending rondak to me in a chat.
(7:14:58 PM) spies8chance: it makes no sense that she'd vote for rondak over cinnamyn after the chat i had with her.
(7:15:15 PM) spies8chance: i think she thought i'd be more successful than i was at switching votes off cinnamyn, and would rather have had cinnamyn around than rondak as fellow spies.
(7:18:31 PM) spies8chance: what do you think?
(7:24:01 PM) spies8stephanie: sry got distracted
(7:24:14 PM) spies8stephanie: have you asked her about it?

Conversation with spies8chance at 8/9/2010 9:14:37 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(9:16:02 PM) spies8stephanie: hi chance
(9:16:18 PM) spies8chance: hey steph.
(9:16:39 PM) spies8stephanie: did you talk to larry before last exile?
(9:16:52 PM) spies8stephanie: was he one you tried to sway to rondak?
(9:16:55 PM) spies8chance: nope, i didn't get a chance to.
(9:17:08 PM) spies8chance: at least i'm pretty sure i didn't. i've slept since then.
(9:17:17 PM) spies8chance: let's see. i know i went to kiara and mary.
(9:17:40 PM) spies8chance: and i'm pretty sure i went to claude.
(9:17:46 PM) spies8chance: but i know i complained more than once that lawrence wasn't on to convince.
(9:17:52 PM) spies8chance: so i don't think i went to him.
(9:36:53 PM) spies8stephanie: and do you still think rondak is spy?
(9:36:59 PM) spies8chance: yes i do.
(9:37:26 PM) spies8chance: i originally thought he was simply wagoning for cinnamyn's lynch because she was up for exile anyway, but given that she flipped spy i suggest major bussing.
(9:37:29 PM) spies8stephanie: i've just about convinced myself that he votes don't make much sense unless he is also spy
(9:37:30 PM) spies8chance: *suspect, not sggest.
(9:39:10 PM) spies8stephanie: my suspicions are that they are both spies, and so the spies split their votes
(9:39:18 PM) spies8chance: i agree totally.
(9:39:32 PM) spies8chance: i was making a 'jenny wagon analysis' thread, but after going through... everyone's reason was the same :-(
(9:39:41 PM) spies8stephanie: if rondak is cit, there couldn't have been spy votes on cinn with the vote as close as it was
(9:40:12 PM) spies8chance: if rondak is cit, do you think all three votes besides me that were on rondak are spies?
(9:40:15 PM) spies8chance: hambone, dane, kiara?
(9:40:28 PM) spies8stephanie: seems likely
(9:40:48 PM) spies8chance: then we lynch rondak anyway. i'm almost sure he's spy... and even if he isn't, he needs to go. it's magalie all over again.
(9:40:52 PM) spies8stephanie: which is why i am leaning toward rondak also being spy
(9:41:07 PM) spies8chance: to be honest, though, i don't think i'm going to survive imprisonment again. :-(
(9:42:06 PM) spies8stephanie: who knows, you have enough people who still suspect you...and i still think you look scummy
(9:42:15 PM) spies8chance: love you too. :-P
(9:42:19 PM) spies8chance: but you're probably the only one.
(9:42:29 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't think so
(9:42:34 PM) spies8stephanie: but maybe
(9:42:34 PM) spies8chance: and to be honest, suspecting me at this point is kinda silly.
(9:42:58 PM) spies8stephanie: i agree, i don't suspect you, but do think you look scummy
(9:43:10 PM) spies8chance: in any case, i'd prefer kiara to go over rondak because i think she's more dangerous than he is.
(9:43:18 PM) spies8chance: i know i look scummy. i'm supposed to.
(9:43:19 PM) spies8chance: :-P
(9:44:11 PM) spies8chance: be right back.

[Stephanie]

My Last Conversation with spies8claude at 8/9/2010 7:28:29 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(7:28:42 PM) spies8stephanie: hi claude
(8:23:49 PM) spies8claude: Hi Stephanie
(8:24:18 PM) spies8stephanie: so i was going to ask you about your power this round?
(8:24:42 PM) spies8claude: Not sure what I'm doing with it yet.
(8:24:56 PM) spies8claude: It's the dumb ability anyway(choose someone, they can't vote 2 specific people), so it doesn't really matter
(8:25:09 PM) spies8claude: But I'll use it to be sure that I have access to all 3 abilities after this.
(8:25:24 PM) spies8stephanie: it might
(8:25:37 PM) spies8stephanie: particularly when we're getting down to so few people
(8:28:37 PM) spies8stephanie: so are you thinking about limiting rondak?
(8:28:44 PM) spies8claude: Eh.
(8:28:49 PM) spies8stephanie: since you seemed convinced he was spy?
(8:28:53 PM) spies8claude: I kind of think Dane is more likely to be a Spy than Rondak now.
(8:29:07 PM) spies8stephanie: dane?
(8:29:12 PM) spies8claude: yeah
(8:29:39 PM) spies8claude: He definitely tried to bandwagon Chance's efforts at getting my vote off of Cinnamyn
(8:29:44 PM) spies8claude: Except he let Chance do all of the work.
(8:30:54 PM) spies8stephanie: did you talk to larry, btw?
(8:31:07 PM) spies8stephanie: about switching from cinn to rondak?
(8:31:13 PM) spies8claude: No.
(8:31:16 PM) spies8claude: You did though, right?
(8:31:34 PM) spies8stephanie: i talked to him early in the morning
(8:31:45 PM) spies8stephanie: about switching from you to cinnamyn
(8:32:25 PM) spies8stephanie: owen's post had us both re-considering
(8:32:55 PM) spies8stephanie: owen had told me earlier that he thought isaac had cleared you, but i ignored it
(8:33:15 PM) spies8claude: heh
(8:33:16 PM) spies8stephanie: because i was tired of hearing how isaac had cleared the entire burg
(8:33:21 PM) spies8claude: Better late than never, I guess?
(8:33:41 PM) spies8stephanie: he also told me that isaac had cleared chance -- and that was just a fib
(8:33:52 PM) spies8stephanie: so i ignored him
(8:34:02 PM) spies8stephanie: but then went back to look for myself
(8:34:12 PM) spies8claude: Yeah, I never agreed that the converastion Isaac and Chance had was good for Chance.
(8:34:49 PM) spies8stephanie: it was just a fib, because they knew chance was the devil, but didn't want to tell me that
(8:35:31 PM) spies8stephanie: and i'm still not sure about jasmine, another one that isaac presumably cleared
(8:35:37 PM) spies8stephanie: i still think she's a spy
(8:35:51 PM) spies8stephanie: but need to go back and look at her interactions with isaac
(8:36:51 PM) spies8stephanie: i can't believe that isaac would be worst spy ever, clearing half of the burg
(8:37:15 PM) spies8claude: Pretty sure he was, heh.
(8:39:10 PM) spies8stephanie: so do you know why jenny thought that dane was cit
(8:40:20 PM) spies8claude: IDK
(8:40:27 PM) spies8claude: That's the only thing he has going for him right now.
(8:41:07 PM) spies8stephanie: that and alexei voting for him on no reasons except mine that alexei didn't really understand
(8:41:22 PM) spies8claude: I feel like that might have been a spite-vote
(8:41:26 PM) spies8claude: Who else voted Alexei?
(8:42:37 PM) spies8stephanie: only alexei and i voted dane
(8:43:19 PM) spies8claude: That's fine.
(8:43:28 PM) spies8claude: I can go look up whom was voting for Alexi
(8:43:35 PM) spies8stephanie: nita, gabe, rondak, hambone , owen, dane
(8:44:03 PM) spies8claude: lol..4 people that are still alive :-(
(8:44:06 PM) spies8claude: shitty
(8:44:37 PM) spies8stephanie: dinner time for me ... later

[Stephanie]

Conversation with spies8owen at 8/9/2010 5:51:25 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(5:51:25 PM) spies8owen: Hey.
(5:51:32 PM) spies8stephanie: hi owen
(5:51:38 PM) spies8owen: How was your break?
(5:51:48 PM) spies8stephanie: good! and yours?
(5:51:58 PM) spies8stephanie: surprised to see you here this early in the day
(5:52:10 PM) spies8owen: It went pretty well, thought about things, but didn't do any extreme research.
(5:52:21 PM) spies8owen: I've been waking up much earlier, flipped my schedule a bit.
(5:52:52 PM) spies8stephanie: i was just thinking that i wanted to look into the jasmine/isaac connection, but
(5:52:56 PM) spies8owen: Mainly because I have a doctors appt early on Thursday.
(5:53:16 PM) spies8stephanie: nothing wrong, i hope
(5:53:28 PM) spies8owen: Should be fine.
(5:53:44 PM) spies8owen: Probably will just adjust my insulin.
(5:53:51 PM) spies8owen: Good times, good times.
(5:54:32 PM) spies8owen: I feel like Jenny, but I was thinking a lot of the people I think are citizens more during the break. Process of elimination.
(5:55:00 PM) spies8owen: The four that I'm most unsure of after thinking = Dane, Lawrence, Kiara, Rondak.
(5:55:38 PM) spies8stephanie: and i'd add jasmine to that list
(5:55:40 PM) spies8owen: Lawrence on Mags doesn't look so great anymore, since Cin was scum and obviously wanted her out too.
(5:55:57 PM) spies8owen: I think he may have been throwing the challenge, btw.
(5:56:11 PM) spies8owen: (11:50:25 PM)spies8lawrence: Gut tells me 6 is musician
(11:50:25 PM) spies8mary: You guys ready to go for it?
(11:50:33 PM) spies8lawrence: Go fighter on 5
(11:50:35 PM) spies8mary: Fighter for #5?
(11:50:39 PM) spies8owen: Yeah.
(11:50:39 PM) spies8lawrence: 1 looks like a financial exec to me
(11:50:40 PM) spies8claude: Yeah, seems good.
(11:50:41 PM) spies8chance: yeah, go for it mary.
(11:50:49 PM) spies8mary: #5 is the fighter, Sam.
(11:50:52 PM) sorintheseeker: You guessed #5 is the Professional Fighter...
(11:50:55 PM) sorintheseeker: 5: Andre Baker, PROFESSIONAL FIGHTER.
(11:50:57 PM) sorintheseeker: correct!
(11:50:58 PM) spies8chance: yay!
(11:51:00 PM) spies8mary: Good.
(11:51:01 PM) spies8stephanie: yay
(11:51:06 PM) spies8lawrence: We're still in this
(11:51:07 PM) spies8claude: huzzah
(11:51:08 PM) spies8lawrence: Good
(11:51:15 PM) sorintheseeker: 1= Chance 2=Claude 3=Kiara 4=Lawrence 5=Mary 6=Owen 7=Stephanie. Rolling to see who make the final decision this round: (everyone discusses each)
(11:51:17 PM) sorintheseeker: sorintheseeker rolled 1 7-sided die: 3
(11:51:18 PM) spies8chance: 1 could be the gym guy.
(11:51:22 PM) sorintheseeker: Kiara is gone
(11:51:23 PM) spies8owen: Professions can't be re-used, right?
(11:51:24 PM) spies8chance: kiara's not here.
(11:51:26 PM) sorintheseeker: sorintheseeker rolled 1 7-sided die: 7
(11:51:27 PM) sorintheseeker: right
(11:51:30 PM) sorintheseeker: Stephanie's turn.
(11:51:31 PM) spies8lawrence: No they can't
(5:56:22 PM) spies8owen: Musician was used at that pint.
(5:56:25 PM) spies8owen: point*
(5:56:29 PM) spies8owen: And he knew they couldn't be re-used.
(5:57:28 PM) spies8stephanie: i didn't notice that at the time
(5:57:32 PM) spies8stephanie: interesting
(5:58:09 PM) spies8owen: Also, I think he may have bussed Cinnamyn. Remember how I was thinking that Cin wasn't coming around that night because she knew she was being voted out?
(5:58:21 PM) spies8owen: I also thought that if that was the case, spies had decided earlier in the day that they would let her go.
(5:58:37 PM) spies8stephanie: she did show up tho
(5:58:51 PM) spies8owen: Once Lawrence couldn't vote for Claude because of my post (it really would have made him look bad) I think he cut his losses.
(5:58:54 PM) spies8owen: Yes, with like no time left.
(5:59:00 PM) spies8owen: And not trying to sway anything.
(5:59:12 PM) spies8owen: To my knowledge, at least.
(5:59:54 PM) spies8owen: Cin wasn't even on his spies list.
(5:59:55 PM) spies8stephanie: i was talking with he
(5:59:57 PM) spies8owen: A day before.
(5:59:58 PM) spies8stephanie: her
(6:00:26 PM) spies8stephanie: i talked with larry the morning of exile it was a little strange -- let me go look
(6:01:20 PM) spies8stephanie: he said he was set on voting claude, but you brought up a good point
(6:01:33 PM) spies8stephanie: (9:51:47 AM) spies8lawrence: I should look into it

(6:01:36 PM) spies8owen: He made note of it in the exile chat after.
(6:01:41 PM) spies8owen: "Thanks Owen, for giving me that."
(6:01:43 PM) spies8owen: I thought it was contrived.
(6:02:27 PM) spies8stephanie: and talking about claude...
(6:02:31 PM) spies8stephanie: (9:53:23 AM) spies8lawrence: And as I said last night, the fact that he has slid onto Cinnamyn's wagon worries me
(9:54:08 AM) spies8stephanie: i am thinking of sliding onto it myself
(9:54:44 AM) spies8lawrence: There are certainly valid points in the case

(6:03:04 PM) spies8owen: Not feeling good about Law at all right now.
(6:03:21 PM) spies8owen: I started getting wary of him once he campaigned for Jas to get her vote back.
(6:03:27 PM) spies8stephanie: (9:58:55 AM) spies8stephanie: yes, cinn told me last night that she would vote rondak if she had a vote
(9:59:13 AM) spies8lawrence: Ah!

(6:03:34 PM) spies8owen: And then completely flipped once others started going after her.
(6:03:40 PM) spies8stephanie: (9:59:41 AM) spies8lawrence: Alright
(9:59:51 AM) spies8lawrence: I believe I will change my vote to Cinnamyn

(6:03:57 PM) spies8owen: I think that could have been the point he realized
(6:03:59 PM) spies8owen: That Cin was going.
(6:04:03 PM) spies8owen: Even you were going onto the wagon.
(6:04:33 PM) spies8stephanie: in a matter of 8 minutes, larry went from saying that you had a good point, but he was still susp. of claude for jumping on the cinn wagon, to jumping on the wagon himself
(6:04:50 PM) spies8owen: I think we may be onto something.
(6:05:22 PM) spies8owen: I mentioned this to Claude right after the exile. I had a bad feeling about how shifty Law has been lately.
(6:05:42 PM) spies8owen: I think he added me to his suspect list just because my name was going around at the time.
(6:07:06 PM) spies8owen: He's a flip-flopper.
(6:07:07 PM) spies8stephanie: well i was suspicious of larry v1.0 forever
(6:07:18 PM) spies8owen: The thing that finally got me off Larry was the Magalie stuff.
(6:07:24 PM) spies8owen: But after Cin's lynch, they wanted Mags out.
(6:07:25 PM) spies8owen: It's cleary.
(6:07:27 PM) spies8owen: -y
(6:07:46 PM) spies8owen: Magalie seemed like their way of clearing themselves a bit.
(6:08:22 PM) spies8stephanie: if magalie was as flaky as she seemed, it's no wonder
(6:08:25 PM) spies8owen: I really do think we're onto something here.
(6:08:46 PM) spies8owen: I thought I was onto something before I saw how quickly he changed.
(6:09:04 PM) spies8owen: You talking to him when he made the change and seeing how quick it was makes me think I'm right.
(6:11:36 PM) spies8owen: I'm trying to think if Rondak was being bussed by Cin or he was a mislynch target.
(6:11:52 PM) spies8owen: I'm really unsure. Gun to head, I think I'd lean mislynch target.
(6:12:06 PM) spies8stephanie: larry has been defensive of rondak
(6:12:13 PM) spies8owen: That's very true.
(6:12:33 PM) spies8owen: And has fought a lot with Dane publicly. Not sure how they connect. Though, I've seen mafia publicly fight with each other before.
(6:12:55 PM) spies8owen: I was surprised Kiara didn't vote Cin.
(6:13:55 PM) spies8stephanie: did she vote rondak?
(6:13:59 PM) spies8owen: Yep.
(6:14:19 PM) spies8owen: Here's updated voting. I'm so useful
(6:14:21 PM) spies8owen: Chance: Claude, No Vote (Claude's role used), Magalie, Claude? (nom), Magalie (nom), Zedekiah (nom), Awohali, Rondak, Rondak.
Claude: Camilla, Isaac, Chance, Isaac? (nom), Chance (nom), Chance, Chance, Jenny, Cinnamyn.
Dane: Alexei, Savannah, Stephanie/Themba, Stephanie? (nom), Rondak (nom), Zedekiah (nom), Lawrence (nom), Jenny, Rondak.
Hambone: Alexei, Allan, Jenny, Jenny? (nom), Gertrude (nom), Rondak (nom), Jenny (nom), Jenny (nom), Rondak.
Jasmine: Chance, Margot, Themba/Themba, Isaac? (nom), Jenny (nom), Jenny (nom), Did Not Vote, Jenny (nom), Can no longer vote.
Kiara: Did Not Vote, Themba, Themba/Themba, Claude? (nom), Rondak (nom), Jenny (nom), Chance (nom), Jenny, Rondak.
Lawrence: Claude, Margot, Stephanie/Magalie, Stephanie? (nom), Did Not Vote, Did Not Vote, Dane (nom), Jenny, Cinnamyn.
Mary: Chance, Magalie, Did Not Vote, Isaac? (nom), Magalie, Lawrence, Jenny, Jenny, Chance.
Owen: Alexei, Savannah, Isaac/Themba, Isaac, Magalie, Zedekiah, Awohali, Jenny, Cinnamyn.
Rondak: Alexei, Savannah, No Exile, Jenny? (nom), Did Not Vote, Chance (nom), Awohali, Jenny, Cinnamyn.
Stephanie: Dane, Savannah, Lawrence/Magalie, Lawrence? (nom), Chance (nom), Chance, Jenny, Jenny, Cinnamyn.

Alexei: Dane.
Isaac: Claude, Claude, Jasmine/Themba, ?.
Magalie: Gertrude, Margot, Did Not Vote, Claude? (nom), Chance.
Cinnamyn: Margot, Margot, Magalie, Jenny? (nom), Magalie, Kiara, Awohali, Jenny, No Vote (Claude's role used).
(6:14:32 PM) spies8owen: I love how I put myself on there to show off.
(6:15:31 PM) spies8stephanie: wow
(6:15:45 PM) spies8owen: Kiara's voting record. *giggles*
(6:18:38 PM) spies8stephanie: hambone's record is not much better... but maybe cause he was stuck on jenny for so long
(6:18:46 PM) spies8stephanie: you still leaning cit on him?
(6:18:54 PM) spies8owen: He's a wildcard.
(6:19:09 PM) spies8owen: I haven't really had much on him either way.
(6:20:02 PM) spies8stephanie: kiara i had moved back to the neutral pile after the jenny flip
(6:20:17 PM) spies8stephanie: but looking at her record makes me reconsider
(6:23:12 PM) spies8stephanie: so what else do you have on larry?
(6:24:23 PM) spies8owen: There's his early stuff.
(6:24:33 PM) spies8owen: Like giving FOS'es and then giving reasons NOT to FOS them in the same post.
(6:25:39 PM) spies8stephanie: the vote on cinn ended up with 5 and rondak had 4
(6:26:07 PM) spies8owen: Would have been 6-4 if Mary didn't throw her vote at Chance for immunity.
(6:26:30 PM) spies8stephanie: that's true; i was surprised by her vote
(6:26:46 PM) spies8owen: I wasn't too surprised about it because Chance offered it to me.
(6:26:50 PM) spies8owen: And told me he asked Mary too.
(6:27:12 PM) spies8owen: I didn't feel comfortable taking my vote off Cin.
(6:27:26 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah, me too, when i wouldn't switch to rondak
(6:27:37 PM) spies8stephanie: chance still looks scummy to me
(6:27:47 PM) spies8owen: He didn't even tell me he'd make me immune.
(6:27:52 PM) spies8owen: Great selling point, Chance.
(6:28:18 PM) spies8owen: I said that if he made the wrong choice with immunity that it would just limit our chances.
(6:28:31 PM) spies8owen: And he came back with something bitchy about me making the wrong choice to lynch Cinnamyn.
(6:28:43 PM) spies8owen: If the role wasn't there, I'd think he's scum too.
(6:29:01 PM) spies8owen: He's really aggrivated me since Gertrude left.
(6:29:06 PM) spies8owen: He's been making douchey little comments to me.
(6:29:38 PM) spies8stephanie: so who is he giving the immunity to?
(6:30:27 PM) spies8owen: Mary, I believe.
(6:31:22 PM) spies8stephanie: jasmine's list was: Kiara, Stephanie, Claude, and Mary
(6:31:40 PM) spies8owen: That's a terrible list.
(6:31:51 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't get how people can be susp of mary
(6:32:16 PM) spies8owen: The thing with Jasmine is that I their would have been a lot more effort for her to get her vote back.
(6:32:30 PM) spies8owen: Mary, I've actually suspected her. Not much after the last vote though.
(6:33:16 PM) spies8owen: Mainly because of how hard she pushed to get rid of Chance over Magalie.
(6:33:38 PM) spies8owen: She got REALLY mad when we wouldn't vote Chance.
(6:33:51 PM) spies8owen: If Mags flipped town then, I wouldn't have thought much of it.
(6:34:23 PM) spies8stephanie: some of it was cause you didn't have good reasons for not voting chance
(6:34:30 PM) spies8stephanie: i got mad about the same thing
(6:34:37 PM) spies8owen: Yeah, can definitely understand that.
(6:34:42 PM) spies8owen: I got frustrated by it too.
(6:35:58 PM) spies8stephanie: if you or mary are spies, i'm resigned to losing
(6:36:58 PM) spies8owen: Can guarantee you that 1/2 of us isn't. Not sure about her half.
(6:37:27 PM) spies8stephanie: i am
(6:37:29 PM) spies8owen: I'm actually feeling good about the game right now.
(6:37:33 PM) spies8owen: Which means that I'm probably dead next.
(6:38:13 PM) spies8stephanie: we're getting close -- 3 v 8
(6:38:21 PM) spies8stephanie: soon to be 3 v 7
(6:38:24 PM) spies8owen: For some reason, I don't think they'll kill Chance even though he's confirmed.
(6:38:43 PM) spies8owen: Because he's... kinda... uhh... dumb at times.
(6:39:17 PM) spies8owen: When people can still doubt you even though you have a role that can completely confirm you, you're doing something wrong.
(6:39:17 PM) spies8stephanie: and i'm not sure they'll kill you, cause there was a lot of talk going around about why they haven't killed you before and perhaps it's because you are spy
(6:39:32 PM) spies8owen: And of course the spies hearing that stuff will keep me around.
(6:39:36 PM) spies8owen: Do people realize that?
(6:40:00 PM) spies8stephanie: i did try to explain that to someone... hambone or larry?
(6:40:07 PM) spies8owen: They need to think about the people dying, too.
(6:40:16 PM) spies8owen: It makes no sense for me to eliminate everyone that trusts me.
(6:40:23 PM) spies8owen: And keep people that are doubting me.
(6:41:32 PM) spies8owen: The fact that people I trust/trust me are dying makes me worry about you going.
(6:41:44 PM) spies8stephanie: maybe i should post a case on you
(6:42:13 PM) spies8owen: Hahaha, I'd actually like to see a case on me. Though I could see idiots bandwagoning onto it.
(6:42:17 PM) spies8stephanie: lol
(6:42:24 PM) spies8owen: Just because I really don't think there's much that points in the direction of me being scum.
(6:42:40 PM) spies8owen: If anything, really.
(6:42:56 PM) spies8owen: Me being alive is not a valid reason. Good citizens have made it to the end of every season.
(6:42:56 PM) spies8stephanie: you could be king of the bussers
(6:43:04 PM) spies8owen: I'm not Jason. There is only 1.
(6:44:22 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah i think even if you were king of the bussers, you'd be so hated by the spies by now, that they'd be making cases on you
(6:44:35 PM) spies8owen: I can't bus for shit either, I'm a team player.
(6:44:45 PM) spies8owen: And quite frankly, pretty bad as scum.
(6:44:47 PM) spies8owen: I was like Alexei.
(6:45:35 PM) spies8owen: I'm an emotional player, hard to play on emotions as scum since you have to lie about things and make things fit into place.
(6:46:39 PM) spies8owen: I think that's why I've trusted you.
(6:46:43 PM) spies8owen: I think you're an emotional player.
(6:46:59 PM) spies8stephanie: i try to be logical, but i don't really succeed
(6:47:27 PM) spies8owen: I can be really logical too, but when it comes down to it I run on emotions.
(6:47:36 PM) spies8owen: Not like a lot of these robot mafia players.
(6:48:03 PM) spies8stephanie: like broderick?
(6:48:19 PM) spies8owen: Though, Sam does a good job of getting more emotional/dramatic players.
(6:48:40 PM) spies8owen: Forum mafia players are usually the robot type.
(6:49:17 PM) spies8stephanie: broderick nearly drove me crazy the first few episodes, but i was begining to like him
(6:49:33 PM) spies8owen: Yeah, like Broderick. He never let his thoughts get overcome by emotions and how he played.
(6:49:44 PM) spies8owen: I liked Broderick by the end. He was making me laugh instead of want to punch him.
(6:50:02 PM) spies8owen: He made me not even want to come into the chat for a few episodes though.
(6:50:30 PM) spies8stephanie: dane is still able to keep me out on occasion
(6:51:06 PM) spies8stephanie: he's still on your possible spy list?
(6:51:22 PM) spies8owen: Yep.
(6:51:44 PM) spies8stephanie: he's nearly impossible for me to get a read on
(6:51:50 PM) spies8owen: Mostly for his lack of doing shit.
(6:52:11 PM) spies8owen: And yeah, he's hard to read because he's always fighting.
(6:52:29 PM) spies8owen: First bribe against him also makes me wary.
(6:52:36 PM) spies8owen: Since we know for a fact that these spies love WIFOM.
(6:53:14 PM) spies8stephanie: do you have any clue why jenny trusted him?
(6:53:34 PM) spies8owen: She was comparing him to Spies7Harold, who was basically an abrasive asshole that came up as town.
(6:53:47 PM) spies8owen: And that people suspected him just due to his personality.
(6:54:49 PM) spies8stephanie: jenny did tell me in ep 1, i think, that she thought she knew who he was
(6:55:18 PM) spies8stephanie: but just cause he is abrasive and perhaps harold, doesn't mean he's a cit
(6:57:22 PM) spies8stephanie: though i thought the fact that alexei was voting him on only my reasons did make him lean cit
(6:58:01 PM) spies8stephanie: i still don't understand why alexei jumped off zeke and onto dane
(7:00:00 PM) spies8owen: Could be to make Dane look good.
(7:00:05 PM) spies8owen: As could their entire fight.
(7:00:33 PM) spies8owen: Alexei seemed pretty screwed at that point. Not a sure thing, but it seemed likely.
(7:02:17 PM) spies8stephanie: i guess that could make sense
(7:02:39 PM) spies8owen: The fight did seem legit to me though.
(7:02:47 PM) spies8owen: But again, Dane fighting with me would make legitimately mad too.
(7:04:24 PM) spies8stephanie: yep, tho oddly enough i sometimes enjoy fighting with him
(7:05:38 PM) spies8stephanie: is claude going to use his power this time?
(7:10:44 PM) spies8owen: Asking him now.
(7:10:50 PM) spies8owen: Just brought the Law stuff up we had to him.
(7:10:55 PM) spies8owen: He agrees it looks really bad.
(7:10:59 PM) spies8stephanie: ahh
(7:11:35 PM) spies8owen: Probably using it.
(7:11:40 PM) spies8owen: Not sure on who yet.
(7:13:34 PM) spies8owen: The only one he has left (until he uses it again) is using it on someone and they can't vote for 2 certain people.
(7:13:41 PM) spies8owen: It can be thrown away and not hurt us at all if used right.
(7:16:50 PM) spies8owen: I think I'm gonna make an outline on Law. Not sure if I'm gonna let people know I'm doing it yet though (other than you)
(7:16:54 PM) spies8owen: I wanna see who defends him.
(7:17:40 PM) spies8owen: And if I go tomorrow, please push this. I feel really confident on it.
(7:19:37 PM) spies8stephanie: ok
(7:20:04 PM) spies8stephanie: but i'm not sure having crazy steph doing the pushing is going to help much
(7:20:19 PM) spies8owen: Hey, you're one of the smarter players in the game.
(7:20:25 PM) spies8owen: Don't let the crazy comments get to you.
(7:20:39 PM) spies8owen: Not that I think they really hurt you, but you should still feel confident.
(7:24:51 PM) spies8stephanie: lol i really don't mind being crazy
(7:25:03 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm going to wear purple hats
(7:25:32 PM) spies8stephanie: wait.. that's red hats
(7:25:43 PM) spies8stephanie: with purple
(7:26:53 PM) spies8stephanie: but i agree with not pushing cases until after imprisonment
(7:29:15 PM) spies8owen: I'll most likely be sending something to you before tomorrow night.
(7:29:28 PM) spies8stephanie: ok i'll look forward to it
(7:29:52 PM) spies8stephanie: have you seen mary? or talked with her about it?
(7:29:59 PM) spies8owen: Haven't.
(7:30:30 PM) spies8owen: I don't think she had Lawrence on her list though. Last time we talked, it was: Cin, Dane, Rondak, Hambone for her.
(7:31:43 PM) spies8stephanie: i was thinking at one time that rondak and cinn couldn't both be spies, but i've reconsidered
(7:32:33 PM) spies8stephanie: tho i still keep coming back to it being a 5-4 vote or a 6-4 vote and one vote would have changed things
(7:33:11 PM) spies8owen: They could definitely both be spies, but I think it's likely Cinn would have pushed someone else as an alternate option.
(7:33:23 PM) spies8owen: THOUGH, she did try to push the trust group a lot until that looked like it was failing.
(7:40:22 PM) spies8stephanie: do you know if chance tried to sway larry's vote?
(7:40:36 PM) spies8owen: Not sure.
(7:40:44 PM) spies8owen: I didn't see Law online until right before the vote ended.
(7:41:12 PM) spies8stephanie: he told me he was suspicious of kiara cause he tried to sway her vote and it worked
(7:41:24 PM) spies8stephanie: didn't make that much sense to me
(7:43:41 PM) spies8stephanie: but mostly i guess cause kiara seemed wishy-washy defended rondak and then voted him
(7:45:20 PM) spies8owen: Interesting. Kiara is one of the people on my suspects list.
(7:46:38 PM) spies8stephanie: she's been off and on my list
(7:46:50 PM) spies8owen: One sec, gonna PM you what I had on her the round I was going to vote her.
(7:47:24 PM) spies8owen: I think there's some solid points in there.
(7:48:01 PM) spies8stephanie: i still think her role is spyish and she could have manufactured the guessing part to make it looks cit
(7:48:08 PM) spies8owen: Sent.
(7:48:58 PM) spies8stephanie: reading
(7:49:02 PM) spies8owen: I really regret not voting her then.
(7:51:49 PM) spies8stephanie: what do you think about when to claim?
(7:52:46 PM) spies8stephanie: claiming a last minute vs. claiming earlier in the day?
(7:54:13 PM) spies8stephanie: kiara was online and hinting that she was going to claim a few hours before exile, but only wanted to claim to the kiara voters, you and cory
(7:54:38 PM) spies8stephanie: and didn't bother to claim to cinnamyn who was also voting her
(7:54:49 PM) spies8stephanie: but said that she had to leave
(7:55:26 PM) spies8stephanie: something about the timing seemed off to me
(7:56:18 PM) spies8stephanie: why would kiara not claim to cinnamyn?
(7:57:10 PM) spies8owen: I'm not sure what to think about the claim. Last second claiming would give us less time to really think it over.
(7:57:13 PM) spies8owen: Which in my case, worked against me.
(7:57:19 PM) spies8owen: If I had more time I wouldn't have made the same decision.
(7:58:01 PM) spies8owen: I don't know why she waited until so late. In my case, I didn't wake up until a little while before exile. What about Cory? Was he on during the day?
(8:02:13 PM) spies8stephanie: no, i don't think so. cinn was on when kiara was hinting, but not you or cory
(8:03:15 PM) spies8owen: Perhaps because Cinnamyn already knew about the plan and it was a fake role (or a scum role).
(8:03:29 PM) spies8owen: That's actually a good point.
(8:03:33 PM) spies8owen: Why wouldn't she tell Cin?
(8:03:54 PM) spies8owen: Wait, who did Cin vote that time?
(8:04:59 PM) spies8stephanie: kiara
(8:09:01 PM) spies8stephanie: (4:53:31 PM) spies8stephanie: did you decide who to vote for?
(4:53:37 PM) spies8cinnamyn: probs kiara
(4:53:42 PM) spies8cinnamyn: but she sez shes got sumthin' 2 say
(4:54:02 PM) spies8stephanie: oh really, what?
(4:54:10 PM) spies8stephanie: like a claim or something?
(4:54:38 PM) spies8stephanie: and when is she gonna say it?
(4:54:45 PM) spies8cinnamyn: who nose
(4:54:48 PM) spies8cinnamyn: she sed in da chat rite now

(8:09:38 PM) spies8stephanie: (5:00:13 PM) spies8cinnamyn: my vote iz on her but im leavin' 4 a cookout soon so datz y she wanted 2 say it now
(5:00:22 PM) spies8cinnamyn: but shez waiting still i think

(8:09:46 PM) spies8owen: Hmm...
(8:09:58 PM) spies8owen: I don't get why Kiara wouldn't claim to her.
(8:10:38 PM) spies8owen: But I feel like Cin would have voted Zed in that case if Kiara was a spy, don't really see Kiara as a weak link for them.
(8:10:56 PM) spies8owen: Or maybe not, that could link them together.
(8:11:34 PM) spies8stephanie: i never really like anything about the kiara claim -- so i could be prejudiced
(8:12:56 PM) spies8stephanie: that vote ended up being 3 for zeke: you, cory, and gert
(8:13:07 PM) spies8stephanie: and 1 on kiara: cinn






Conversation with spies8owen at 8/10/2010 6:36:45 PM on spies8stephanie (aim)
(6:36:53 PM) spies8stephanie: hi owen
(6:36:57 PM) spies8stephanie: got your pm
(6:37:15 PM) spies8owen: Hey Steph.
(6:37:16 PM) spies8owen: Thoughts?
(6:37:28 PM) spies8stephanie: wow!
(6:37:53 PM) spies8stephanie: haven't read all the way down yet, but must say i'm impressed by the amount of work
(6:38:15 PM) spies8owen: I've been busy.
(6:38:35 PM) spies8stephanie: i can see that!
(6:38:40 PM) spies8owen: And I want to make the spies pay for keeping me alive this long. Gonna shove it up their asses.
(6:42:10 PM) spies8owen: BTW, when I signed on before it was Kiara, Dane, Lawrence all sitting online.
(6:42:16 PM) spies8owen: Kiara goes away pretty quickly.
(6:42:21 PM) spies8owen: Lawrence signs off.
(6:42:29 PM) spies8stephanie: lol
(6:42:43 PM) spies8stephanie: i still see kiara online
(6:42:50 PM) spies8owen: Yeah, she's on now.
(6:42:52 PM) spies8owen: Was way before.
(6:42:54 PM) spies8owen: away*
(6:42:57 PM) spies8stephanie: dane was here until just a sec ago
(6:43:03 PM) spies8owen: None of them IMed me.
(6:43:09 PM) spies8stephanie: but didn't say anything to me
(6:43:22 PM) spies8owen: I really think those 3 are the remaining scum.
(6:43:37 PM) spies8owen: Lawrence/Dane do tons of distancing.
(6:43:43 PM) spies8owen: They fight all the time, but has anything EVER come out of it?
(6:44:00 PM) spies8stephanie: dane fights with everyone tho
(6:44:08 PM) spies8owen: Lawrence made a thread about him.
(6:44:17 PM) spies8owen: It seems like distancing.
(6:44:50 PM) spies8owen: If they were at each others throats so much and were so suspicious of each other, don't you think there'd be more coming from it?
(6:46:07 PM) spies8stephanie: chance is again convinced that he's going?
(6:46:16 PM) spies8owen: Yep.
(6:46:22 PM) spies8owen: I think it'll be me, you, or Claude.
(6:46:37 PM) spies8owen: Outside chance at Mary since she'll probably be immune.
(6:46:40 PM) spies8owen: From exile.
(6:47:30 PM) spies8owen: Don't think Chance will go even if he's confirmed. He almost saved a spy last time.
(6:47:34 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't see larry's thread about dane
(6:47:42 PM) spies8stephanie: was it recently?
(6:47:50 PM) spies8owen: Nevermind, Dane made it.
(6:47:55 PM) spies8owen: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=1522
(7:19:22 PM) spies8stephanie: kiara just im'd me saying "what?!"
(7:19:33 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm so glad it wasn't you
(7:19:41 PM) spies8stephanie: but sry to see claude go
(7:20:01 PM) spies8owen: I would have been fine going over Claude.
(7:20:58 PM) spies8stephanie: did he send last words to anyone?
(7:21:03 PM) spies8owen: Nope.
(7:21:08 PM) spies8owen: He didn't even read my PM today.
(7:21:22 PM) spies8stephanie: crap
(7:22:57 PM) spies8stephanie: are you going to post all of it? or just the stuff on larry?
(7:23:06 PM) spies8owen: All.
(7:23:09 PM) spies8stephanie: k
(7:34:01 PM) spies8stephanie: is kiara going to comment do you thik?
(7:34:07 PM) spies8owen: Hope so.
(7:34:13 PM) spies8owen: Alright, I have something to tell you that I told Claude yesterday.
(7:34:18 PM) spies8owen: I'd appreciate it if you kept it quiet.
(7:34:24 PM) spies8stephanie: k
(7:34:27 PM) spies8owen: I accused Lawrence.
(7:34:36 PM) spies8stephanie: oh
(7:34:38 PM) spies8owen: Not to get him voted out, but to shake him up.
(7:34:44 PM) spies8stephanie: and you were right!
(7:34:49 PM) spies8owen: I had been getting suspicious of him after the Jasmine flip.
(7:34:58 PM) spies8owen: He told me who originally played him...
(7:35:03 PM) spies8owen: And I figured out who he was, too.
(7:35:26 PM) spies8owen: I'm not a fan of meta, but I'm really confident based on facts AND meta that he's scum.
(7:35:51 PM) spies8stephanie: well you're preaching to the choir here
(7:35:54 PM) spies8owen: Claude was completely on board to get him lynched :/
(7:36:02 PM) spies8stephanie: i've been saying he was scum since i first met him
(7:36:30 PM) spies8owen: I'll just say that Sam must have been really desperate for a replacement.
(7:36:34 PM) spies8owen: is that*
(7:36:36 PM) spies8stephanie: lol
(7:36:42 PM) spies8owen: Because he said he'd never accept said person again.
(7:37:32 PM) spies8owen: He even knew why he was accused, to shake him up.
(7:37:38 PM) spies8stephanie: huh, well larry has been civil and hasn't caused any big fights, so i don't see what was so objectional
(7:37:38 PM) spies8owen: And he was getting really worried that night about who knew.
(7:37:53 PM) spies8owen: He quit for a few days.
(7:37:57 PM) spies8stephanie: ahh
(7:37:57 PM) spies8owen: Leaving Sam without knowing anything.
(7:38:02 PM) spies8owen: While having a role.
(7:38:18 PM) spies8owen: I'm 99.9% sure on this one.
(7:39:46 PM) spies8stephanie: i sure hope so
(7:39:54 PM) spies8stephanie: i think you've made a good case
(7:40:18 PM) spies8owen: I'm not the type that really posts cases either. I usually back out because of lack of confidence.
(7:40:22 PM) spies8owen: But I really think I'm right here.
(7:40:54 PM) spies8owen: Have a feeling that the others will want Rondak lynched first.
(7:41:00 PM) spies8stephanie: have you talked to mary about it?
(7:41:05 PM) spies8owen: Haven't seen her still.
(7:41:09 PM) spies8stephanie: ugh
(7:41:15 PM) spies8owen: I think she's smart enough to see it.
(7:41:25 PM) spies8owen: It all clicked once you showed me the convo you had with him.
(7:41:29 PM) spies8stephanie: she always seems so logical to me
(7:41:30 PM) spies8owen: There is no way he changed everything that quickly.
(7:41:59 PM) spies8stephanie: and i hadn't noticed the challenge stuff
(7:42:15 PM) spies8stephanie: i knew i hadn't gone along with larry's last pick
(7:42:24 PM) spies8stephanie: but my pick wasn't right either
(7:42:34 PM) spies8owen: But he definitely knew people couldn't be reused.
(7:42:37 PM) spies8owen: He answered for me.
(7:42:47 PM) spies8stephanie: that is funny
(7:42:48 PM) spies8owen: So scummy.
(7:48:19 PM) spies8owen: Kiara seems to be warming up to the Law stuff.
(7:48:36 PM) spies8owen: Though, I think some scum WILL warm up to it because it's a solid case.
(7:48:43 PM) spies8owen: If they defend him and he gets lynched, yikes.
(7:49:30 PM) spies8stephanie: can't see anyone defending him, but might see spies saying that someone else is more suspicious
(7:49:54 PM) spies8owen: Got a feeling that people doing that will go after Rondak.
(7:50:29 PM) spies8stephanie: it'll be interesting to see who the alternate candidate is and who is on him
(7:56:35 PM) spies8stephanie: i'll bet larry is thinking i'm the one who accused him
(7:57:04 PM) spies8stephanie: i used to talk to him every morning
(7:57:26 PM) spies8owen: Well, he told me who played his old character.
(7:57:30 PM) spies8owen: So I think he may be thinking me.
(7:57:37 PM) spies8owen: Unless he said it to others, which in that case, stupid.
(7:57:38 PM) spies8stephanie: ahhh
(7:57:45 PM) spies8stephanie: no he didn't tell me anything
(7:58:01 PM) spies8stephanie: but he's quit talking to me in the mornings
(7:58:08 PM) spies8owen: Old Lawrence was Spies7Chloe, btw. If Lawrence can say it, I can too.
(7:58:39 PM) spies8stephanie: i'll have to go look to see chloe
(7:58:41 PM) spies8owen: I don't think that's Chloe's town game. Chloe is someone that got all of her information on AIM.
(7:58:56 PM) spies8owen: Lawrence played it like forum mafia.
(7:59:05 PM) spies8stephanie: ack
(7:59:20 PM) spies8stephanie: yes a-larry was Never on aim
(7:59:26 PM) spies8owen: Though it's hard to tell because Chloe was 3rd party.
(7:59:32 PM) spies8owen: Assassin.
(8:08:07 PM) spies8owen: I was just thinking about how bad Chance must suck.
(8:08:11 PM) spies8owen: A confirmed citizen being kept around.
(8:08:12 PM) spies8owen: God.
(8:08:28 PM) spies8owen: I apologized for calling him an idiot a few rounds ago.
(8:08:31 PM) spies8owen: Considering taking the apology back.
(8:09:04 PM) spies8owen: That makes me think that Rondak is a mislynch target.
(8:09:09 PM) spies8owen: They're keeping around the main person pushing it.
(8:09:34 PM) spies8stephanie: hmm hadn't thought of that
(8:09:52 PM) spies8stephanie: but it could be a reason to keep him around
(8:10:04 PM) spies8stephanie: or it could be that he's protecting spies from exile
(8:10:14 PM) spies8owen: Unless they think we're going to lynch him still, it's likely the only reason.
(8:10:27 PM) spies8owen: If they think that Chance will be lynched, they must think we're morons.
(8:10:41 PM) spies8owen: If Chance comes up scum, Sam might as well have been on the scum team.
(8:11:14 PM) spies8owen: Oooh, just had a thought.
(8:11:19 PM) spies8owen: The spies prize for winning that challenge...
(8:11:26 PM) spies8owen: That would mean Kiara's role is either fake or a cit role.
(8:11:29 PM) spies8owen: They wouldn't need to know.
(8:11:31 PM) spies8owen: Wait, nvm.
(8:11:34 PM) spies8owen: That's only for DEAD players.
(8:11:59 PM) spies8stephanie: was the challenge for dead players?
(8:12:05 PM) spies8owen: Living, I believe.
(8:12:11 PM) spies8stephanie: ah ok
(8:12:12 PM) spies8owen: Uncover 2 roles I think.
(8:12:28 PM) spies8stephanie: surely there is not much left to uncover, is there?
(8:12:29 PM) spies8owen: That's awfully late for a reward like that.
(8:12:33 PM) spies8owen: Kinda pointless.
(8:12:45 PM) spies8stephanie: thank goodness
(8:12:56 PM) spies8owen: I think all the cit roles have to be out there already.
(8:13:00 PM) spies8owen: Probably a scum role left.
(8:13:17 PM) spies8owen: Though, not much happening that we know of that would incidate there being another role out there.
(8:13:19 PM) spies8owen: Nothing has happened.
(8:13:25 PM) spies8stephanie: and i still suspect kiara's role is a scum role
(8:13:29 PM) spies8owen: Or fake.
(8:13:42 PM) spies8stephanie: fake would be dangerous
(8:13:49 PM) spies8owen: Does look good that she knew that Gabe wasn't the doc.
(8:13:55 PM) spies8owen: Though... spy would know that.
(8:13:58 PM) spies8owen: Gabe couldnt' save himself.
(8:14:03 PM) spies8owen: They went after Gabe first imp.
(8:14:35 PM) spies8stephanie: but he might have had any other role
(8:14:43 PM) spies8owen: Oh wow, that's probably why Gabe was used as the fake doc in the "Savannah" messages.
(8:14:44 PM) spies8stephanie: and that was why he was protected
(8:14:50 PM) spies8owen: Since they knew it wasn't him.
(8:14:54 PM) spies8owen: Hadn't thought of that until now.
(8:15:06 PM) spies8owen: There is no way in hell those messages were real.
(8:15:32 PM) spies8stephanie: i think they were just hoping to flush the doc out
(8:15:55 PM) spies8owen: I had that thought at the time, most likely scenario.
(8:17:05 PM) spies8owen: People asking why I'm alive all the time... WHY IS CHANCE ALIVE?
(8:17:07 PM) spies8stephanie: did everyone know doc couldn't protect himself?
(8:17:18 PM) spies8owen: This is realllly making me doubt Rondak is a spy.
(8:18:37 PM) spies8stephanie: idk it's hard to explain larry switching to cinn instead of rondak, if rondak is cit
(8:18:58 PM) spies8stephanie: there was certainly enough suspicion of him to justify a vote
(8:19:05 PM) spies8owen: If Ronnie is lynched and comes up town
(8:19:11 PM) spies8owen: Lawrence would have been on 2 cit wagons
(8:19:18 PM) spies8owen: Opposed to voting cin.
(8:19:37 PM) spies8owen: First Claude, then Rondak.
(8:19:54 PM) spies8stephanie: larry voted cinnamyn
(8:20:00 PM) spies8owen: I know.
(8:20:03 PM) spies8stephanie: or was this earlier?
(8:20:06 PM) spies8owen: That's my case on him, lmao
(8:20:12 PM) spies8owen: I'm saying IF
(8:20:13 PM) spies8owen: he voted Rondak
(8:20:27 PM) spies8owen: He would have been on 2 opposing wagons.
(8:20:28 PM) spies8stephanie: you think he was afraid to lynch another cit
(8:20:38 PM) spies8stephanie: i see
(8:20:55 PM) spies8owen: I think he bussed Cin to make himself look good and skate by until the end.
(8:21:04 PM) spies8owen: Which it seemed like was going to happen.
(8:21:27 PM) spies8owen: And I think they realized Claude couldn't be lynched anymore after my defense of him.
(8:21:40 PM) spies8owen: Plus, if he was using his role correctly, it was powerful against scum.
(8:21:41 PM) spies8stephanie: i'm not sure if chance had any votes switch at last minute due to his pleading
(8:21:53 PM) spies8owen: Did he sway Kiara?
(8:24:49 PM) spies8stephanie: he told me he talked to her, but didn't tell me he swayed her
(8:25:01 PM) spies8owen: He had to have been trying.
(8:25:06 PM) spies8owen: He was trying really hard on me.
(8:25:07 PM) spies8stephanie: i was actually more interested in larry when i was talking to chance
(8:28:23 PM) spies8stephanie: 7:12:50 PM) spies8stephanie: kiara?
(7:13:33 PM) spies8chance: the fact that she ended up voting for rondak instead of cinnamyn at exile pretty much settles me on that she's a spy.

(8:28:42 PM) spies8stephanie: (7:14:14 PM) spies8stephanie: did you encourage her to vote rondak?
(7:14:41 PM) spies8chance: i did... and she ended up defending rondak to me in a chat.
(7:14:58 PM) spies8chance: it makes no sense that she'd vote for rondak over cinnamyn after the chat i had with her.

(8:29:10 PM) spies8stephanie: (7:15:15 PM) spies8chance: i think she thought i'd be more successful than i was at switching votes off cinnamyn, and would rather have had cinnamyn around than rondak as fellow spies.
(8:29:14 PM) spies8stephanie: found it
(8:29:24 PM) spies8stephanie: yes, chance thinks he swayed her vote
(8:30:34 PM) spies8owen: Interesting...
(8:30:43 PM) spies8owen: Still, a lot more confident on Law than Rondak.
(8:31:16 PM) spies8owen: I haven't been able to get much on Rondak.
(8:35:18 PM) spies8stephanie: i am way more comfortable on larry
(8:35:42 PM) spies8stephanie: oh claude is here
(8:37:24 PM) spies8owen: You're the lone survivor of the "people Owen likes and trusts" club.
(8:37:27 PM) spies8owen: Congrats.
(8:43:17 PM) spies8stephanie: ugh
(8:43:48 PM) spies8stephanie: dinner...bbl
(8:43:53 PM) spies8owen: Later.

[Stephanie]

(7:19:01 PM) spies8mary: Hi.
(7:19:12 PM) spies8stephanie: hi mary
(7:19:21 PM) spies8mary: How are you doing?
(7:19:34 PM) spies8stephanie: ok, how about you?
(7:19:48 PM) spies8mary: Ok. Things have calmed down here at the hospital finally.
(7:20:02 PM) spies8stephanie: well that's good news
(7:20:09 PM) spies8mary: I had time to do some reading last night but not much today.
(7:20:27 PM) spies8mary: Have you seen Jasmine around?
(7:20:45 PM) spies8stephanie: no
(7:21:03 PM) spies8stephanie: aim says i saw her 2 days ago
(7:21:07 PM) spies8mary: I am feeling better about Dane and worse about Jasmine lately.
(7:21:24 PM) spies8mary: But I haven't talked to either--it's all based on their posts.
(7:21:47 PM) spies8stephanie: i talked to dane briefly this morning
(7:22:06 PM) spies8mary: What did you take from it?
(7:22:39 PM) spies8stephanie: not much
(7:22:52 PM) spies8mary: Did he give any evidence for his Rondak suspicions?
(7:23:45 PM) spies8stephanie: (10:42:44 AM) spies8dane: old-rondak being suspicious episode 1
(10:42:57 AM) spies8dane: cinnamyn distancing rondak, rondak distancing cinnamyn
(10:43:10 AM) spies8dane: jasmine suddenly defending him when never talkiung about him much before
(10:43:30 AM) spies8dane: Hambone flipping to it now being too much of an easy vote
(10:43:50 AM) spies8dane: and rondak's suspect quick switches in episode 7

(7:24:21 PM) spies8mary: So basically the evidence I posted last night.
(7:24:36 PM) spies8stephanie: hambone has been after rondak since the subsititue tho
(7:24:48 PM) spies8stephanie: that's not new
(7:25:11 PM) spies8stephanie: oh but he's saying it being an easy vote
(7:25:14 PM) spies8stephanie: nvm
(7:25:16 PM) spies8mary: Hambone sounds like he wants an excuse not to vote Rondak.
(7:26:11 PM) spies8mary: I need to talk to those guys but I never see them around.
(7:26:47 PM) spies8stephanie: my aim says i haven't seen hambone in almost 6 days
(7:26:59 PM) spies8mary: Did you actually find my vote for Chance strange?
(7:27:05 PM) spies8mary: I think I read that in a group chat.
(7:27:27 PM) spies8stephanie: not strange, but surprising
(7:27:31 PM) spies8mary: Ok.
(7:27:36 PM) spies8stephanie: becuase i thought you were voting cinn
(7:27:40 PM) spies8mary: I was.
(7:28:02 PM) spies8mary: Chance asked me very close to exile and so we did a count and it looked safe.
(7:28:48 PM) spies8mary: And I figured worst case scenario Rondak goes instead and is probably also a Spy. But that wasn't going to happen.
(7:28:48 PM) spies8stephanie: i think chance had kiara in the cinnamyn column
(7:28:51 PM) spies8mary: Yes.
(7:28:57 PM) spies8mary: We counted about 6-3
(7:29:14 PM) spies8mary: And it turned out to be 5-4 I think.
(7:29:44 PM) spies8stephanie: and i still keep wondering if that was a spy v spy exile or not
(7:29:57 PM) spies8mary: What evidence did you see either way?
(7:30:30 PM) spies8stephanie: it was a close vote, so if there was even one spy on cinn, they could have turned it around
(7:31:12 PM) spies8stephanie: tho that's only if they knew it was going to be taht close
(7:31:29 PM) spies8stephanie: and i'm not sure that's true -- since chance wasn't sure
(7:31:35 PM) spies8mary: Owen, you, Claude, Rondak, Lawrence.
(7:31:53 PM) spies8mary: Rondak wouldn't turn it around.
(7:31:59 PM) spies8stephanie: and i still have larry in the spy category
(7:32:31 PM) spies8mary: So that would mean what for the Cinnamyn exile?
(7:34:01 PM) spies8stephanie: if larry is a spy, then either he just decided to bus cinn, or had to decide between bussing cinn and bussing rondak
(7:34:40 PM) spies8mary: Larry has found Rondak Citizenish, I believe.
(7:34:57 PM) spies8mary: Or used to. The reasoning didn't look very good.
(7:35:06 PM) spies8stephanie: he had plenty of reasons for not voting cinn too
(7:35:26 PM) spies8mary: Who, Lawrence?
(7:35:40 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah
(7:35:56 PM) spies8mary: You mean when he said he was voting for Claude?
(7:36:07 PM) spies8mary: And found Cinnamyn more Citizen?
(7:36:18 PM) spies8stephanie: yes
(7:37:05 PM) spies8mary: I focused on his Claude arguments last night, but what reason did Lawrence give for switching on Cinnamyn?
(7:37:31 PM) spies8stephanie: that she said she would have voted rondak
(7:37:59 PM) spies8mary: That made him more suspicious of her? Why?
(7:38:23 PM) spies8stephanie: he was saying that he thought rondak was the scapegoat exile
(7:38:50 PM) spies8mary: A few people are saying that now.
(7:39:06 PM) spies8mary: And kind of ignoring evidence.
(7:39:50 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't think it's possible with the close vote, unless the spies didn't realize it was that close
(7:40:55 PM) spies8mary: If Rondak and Cinnamyn are both Spies
(7:41:48 PM) spies8mary: Then it's possible the other Spies were not voting Cinnamyn.
(7:42:23 PM) spies8mary: If Rondak went first as a Spy, do you think that'd have made Cinnamyn look clearer?
(7:43:23 PM) spies8stephanie: probably to me, because as you know, i was not entirely sold on her being spy when i voted her
(7:46:18 PM) spies8stephanie: so why is jasmine looking worse to you?
(7:47:01 PM) spies8mary: She's trying to influence the vote but doesn't seem to have any evidence to support her pushes.
(7:49:52 PM) spies8mary: She went from this list:
(7:49:57 PM) spies8mary: Kiara, Stephanie, Claude, and Mary
(7:50:55 PM) spies8mary: to Hambone, Dane, Mary based on one exile. But says she wants me exiled instead of the other two.
(7:51:08 PM) spies8mary: I want to hear her discuss Hambone and Dane.
(7:52:38 PM) spies8stephanie: i wonder if a spy-jasmine wouldn't have asked a spy-lawrence to switch over start supporting hambone getting his vote back, because hiding out with no vote would be an easy place for the last spy
(7:53:40 PM) spies8mary: If Lawrence is a Spy, switching like that was risky.
(7:54:26 PM) spies8mary: It definitely looked protective.
(7:54:53 PM) spies8stephanie: and his reason was When Chance posted about the timing of the Isaac interactions (how they didn't really matter at that point), it took away the only thing making me think Citizen on Jasmine. This left me with a gut Cit read on Hambone, and nothing on Jasmine. Therefore, I switched to supporting Hambone..
(7:55:29 PM) spies8mary: It's a fairly weak reason to switch.
(7:55:45 PM) spies8stephanie: but if they are both spies, it would work well
(7:55:54 PM) spies8mary: I suppose.
(7:55:58 PM) spies8stephanie: when larry goes, jasmine would look more cit
(7:56:21 PM) spies8mary: What do you think of Hambone and Dane?
(7:56:52 PM) spies8stephanie: they are in my possible, but not-likely cit pile
(7:57:16 PM) spies8stephanie: dane i've never been able to get a handle on
(7:57:20 PM) spies8mary: I believe they've both expressed low-level suspicions of Rondak all game.
(7:57:44 PM) spies8mary: But never really made a case or tried to persuade anyone to join them. I think.
(7:58:49 PM) spies8stephanie: well hambone really like a-rondak, but not b-rondak -- so it's hard to figure
(7:59:14 PM) spies8stephanie: there's some story there
(7:59:26 PM) spies8mary: When you were originally looking for busers on Alexei
(7:59:58 PM) spies8stephanie: i originally was thinking rondak and hambone
(8:00:08 PM) spies8mary: Why them, specifically?
(8:00:23 PM) spies8stephanie: then owen started vehemently saying that it was not a bussing situation
(8:00:36 PM) spies8stephanie: and i started looking at him also
(8:01:11 PM) spies8mary: At this point, with four of them on that wagon #3, #4, #5, #6
(8:01:16 PM) spies8mary: ALEXEI (6): Nita, Gabriel, Hambone, Owen, Dane, Rondak
(8:01:38 PM) spies8mary: For none of them to be busing would mean
(8:01:40 PM) spies8stephanie: nita and gabriel i felt cit about
(8:01:49 PM) spies8stephanie: owen i feel cit on now
(8:02:16 PM) spies8stephanie: dane i thought was cit after alexei voted for him
(8:02:19 PM) spies8mary: Three Spies in Stephanie, Jasmine, Lawrence, Kiara.
(8:03:58 PM) spies8stephanie: possible
(8:04:27 PM) spies8stephanie: but i still stick to my original theory that there was bussing going on
(8:04:50 PM) spies8stephanie: themba and tina were voting alexei and switched to zeke fairly late
(8:05:02 PM) spies8stephanie: so to me it looked like an overwhelming vote
(8:05:12 PM) spies8mary: When I reviewed the group chat where all the decisions were made
(8:05:14 PM) spies8stephanie: and the ideal time to bus
(8:05:19 PM) spies8mary: In like a 3 hour span
(8:05:53 PM) spies8mary: It definitely struck me that some people weren't thinking it fully through and were leaping for image.
(8:06:04 PM) spies8mary: Nita and Tina posted the case.
(8:06:13 PM) spies8mary: Owen signed on, and had supposedly signed on earlier.
(8:06:21 PM) spies8mary: To be the 3rd.
(8:06:53 PM) spies8mary: At that point, whether or not Owen is a Spy
(8:07:44 PM) spies8mary: I think other Spies saw Owen, Tina and Nita on a wagon and tried to find a way on it.
(8:07:52 PM) spies8mary: Would you agree?
(8:08:03 PM) spies8stephanie: yes
(8:08:21 PM) spies8stephanie: and dane had the worst reason of all
(8:08:34 PM) spies8mary: Dane was fighting with Hambone and calling you a liar.
(8:08:35 PM) spies8stephanie: he thought alexei had made the HQ remark
(8:09:27 PM) spies8mary: It was very surprising that Dane switched as quickly as he did, and from the conversation, it looks like he should have switched to voting for you.
(8:10:00 PM) spies8stephanie: i've never been able to get a handle on dane
(8:10:10 PM) spies8stephanie: i have no idea why jenny thought him cit
(8:10:29 PM) spies8stephanie: he did tell me that i am off his suspect list for the first time
(8:10:32 PM) spies8stephanie: lol
(8:11:28 PM) spies8mary: I wish Awohali was still here.
(8:11:40 PM) spies8mary: That exile still boggles my mind.
(8:12:26 PM) spies8stephanie: have you talked to owen?
(8:13:18 PM) spies8mary: No.
(8:13:38 PM) spies8mary: I've tried. He wasn't on late last night and I stayed up until 5AM.
(8:14:19 PM) spies8stephanie: yeah he was on for imprisonment yesterday
(8:14:35 PM) spies8stephanie: that was odd -- we were the only 2 here
(8:14:38 PM) spies8mary: Back to that group chat.
(8:14:51 PM) spies8mary: Dane was saying you were spreading bad facts.
(8:15:04 PM) spies8mary: Which made him suspicious of you.
(8:15:11 PM) spies8stephanie: dane always says that
(8:15:14 PM) spies8mary: Which made him vote for.. Alexei.
(8:15:29 PM) spies8mary: Rondak flat-out said Dane was not a Spy during that chat.
(8:15:43 PM) spies8mary: Which is interesting.
(8:17:49 PM) spies8stephanie: i need to go get dinner in over -- back in about 20 mins
(8:18:00 PM) spies8mary: Ok.

[Stephanie]

(9:57:55 PM) spies8lawrence: Good evening Stephanie
(9:58:06 PM) spies8stephanie: hi larry
(9:58:25 PM) spies8lawrence: How are you tonight?
(9:58:43 PM) spies8stephanie: good, and you?
(9:58:54 PM) spies8lawrence: The same
(9:59:28 PM) spies8stephanie: did you see chance online?
(9:59:33 PM) spies8stephanie: i see he posted in burgg
(9:59:36 PM) spies8lawrence: Not this evening
(10:00:56 PM) spies8lawrence: Why Chance?
(10:01:43 PM) spies8stephanie: no particular reason, except that i saw rondak online when he posted, even if he didn't talk to me
(10:02:08 PM) spies8stephanie: i didn't see chance, just wondered why he was hiding out
(10:02:22 PM) spies8lawrence: Oh
(10:03:53 PM) spies8stephanie: i haven't seen hambone online either, tho he's posted quite a bit
(10:04:35 PM) spies8lawrence: Hambone and Jasmine have strange posts today
(10:04:46 PM) spies8stephanie: yep
(10:05:33 PM) spies8stephanie: and i seem to be off of jasmine's suspect list
(10:05:46 PM) spies8stephanie: dane just told me this morning i was off his list
(10:06:00 PM) spies8stephanie: does this mean the spies have given up trying to exile me?
(10:06:11 PM) spies8stephanie: and i'll be imprisoned next?
(10:06:27 PM) spies8lawrence: How would I know?
(10:07:12 PM) spies8stephanie: rhetorical
(10:12:06 PM) spies8stephanie: do you know who you are voting yet?
(10:12:28 PM) spies8stephanie: rondak seems to be the main suspect, but do you still think he's a scapegoat?
(10:12:40 PM) spies8lawrence: Extremely torn
(10:12:59 PM) spies8lawrence: I thought it was only a lurker lynch
(10:13:03 PM) spies8lawrence: Now there's actual evidence
(10:13:24 PM) spies8lawrence: However
(10:13:33 PM) spies8lawrence: Right now, I'm voting him out of pure self-preservation
(10:13:53 PM) spies8lawrence: I don't know how many people plan on voting for me, but I imagine Owen will not be voting me alone
(10:14:15 PM) spies8stephanie: i am thinking about it
(10:14:33 PM) spies8stephanie: won't be the first time i've voted you
(10:16:03 PM) spies8stephanie: but it's looking more and more to me like just owen and me..and i'm not sure i want to throw my vote away on you for the third or fourth time, whatever it is now
(10:42:26 PM) spies8lawrence: AIM is so slow
(10:42:53 PM) spies8stephanie: sure looks that way

[Stephanie]

(11:11:53 AM) spies8stephanie: hi chance
(11:12:11 AM) spies8chance: hi stephanie.
(11:12:45 AM) spies8stephanie: i see you are currently voting kiara
(11:12:55 AM) spies8chance: yes'm.
(11:13:24 AM) spies8stephanie: but you still think rondak is spy
(11:13:25 AM) spies8stephanie: ?
(11:13:31 AM) spies8chance: i could be swayed to vote either rondak or lawrence.
(11:13:36 AM) spies8chance: yes, but i think kiara is more dangerous.
(11:14:14 AM) spies8stephanie: i am not really sold on rondak
(11:14:14 AM) spies8chance: and i'm a little concerned about rondak - lawrence came to me yesterday wanting to know if i was still voting for rondak. i asked him why and he said 'no reason, just curious'.
(11:14:26 AM) spies8chance: and i think owen's case on lawrence is fairly good.
(11:14:31 AM) spies8stephanie: no reason? lol
(11:14:38 AM) spies8chance: yep. :-P
(11:15:18 AM) spies8chance: who are you voting?
(11:15:33 AM) spies8stephanie: my vote is currently on lawrence, but i am worried that we are going to split our cit votes and let the spies choose
(11:16:01 AM) spies8chance: i agree, which is why i kind of want to vote lawrence now, but didn't say anything to lawrence exactly.
(11:16:16 AM) spies8chance: the only problem i have is, it lets both kiara and rondak by for another episode and we'll be in the same situation.
(11:16:29 AM) spies8chance: but lawrence and kiara are both voting rondak and i like owen's case, which makes me wonder about rondak in general.
(11:16:40 AM) spies8chance: i'm thinking of switching to lawrence and then just not telling anyone.
(11:17:09 AM) spies8stephanie: well tell owen at least
(11:17:24 AM) spies8chance: if he gets online. :-P
(11:17:36 AM) spies8chance: i'm going out for a while, but will be back hours before exile, so i'll have time to chat.
(11:17:43 AM) spies8chance: i'm not leaving for a bit, though.
(11:18:00 AM) spies8stephanie: yep i need to go pretty soon as well
(11:18:04 AM) spies8chance: incidentally, why do you think owen and i are still around?
(11:18:41 AM) spies8stephanie: i'd like to discuss vote with you and owen and mary and see if we can reach a desicion
(11:18:54 AM) spies8stephanie: maybe this evening before exile?
(11:19:06 AM) spies8chance: maybe. now don't make me go all broderick on you and have to repeat myself. :-P
(11:19:13 AM) spies8stephanie: sry
(11:19:43 AM) spies8stephanie: i think you might be around because you are protecting spies like dane and pushing cits like rondak?
(11:20:06 AM) spies8chance: that's my worry. i think sam's going to open up the spy hq after the game and it's going to be full of 'lolol chance is a retard'
(11:20:07 AM) spies8stephanie: i think owen is around because he gains more suspicion the longer he's around
(11:20:33 AM) spies8chance: but i /hate/ lurkers. :-( and we got rid of magalie that way.
(11:21:24 AM) spies8stephanie: is anyone else voting kiara?
(11:21:32 AM) spies8chance: not that i know of, i think everyone else is on rondak.
(11:21:35 AM) spies8stephanie: i could switch to her
(11:21:55 AM) spies8chance: if we could get maybe owen and mary to switch to her, i'd like that.
(11:22:35 AM) spies8stephanie: there are 9 votes? and at least 2 of 9 are spies
(11:22:48 AM) spies8chance: depending on whether or not jasmine is, yeah.
(11:22:58 AM) spies8chance: i think we should go worst-case-scenario, though, and assume three.
(11:23:59 AM) spies8stephanie: i just think that the cits are going to need to vote together
(11:24:14 AM) spies8chance: rondak - dane, mary, kiara, hambone
lawrence - owen
hambone - rondak
kiara - chance


(11:24:30 AM) spies8chance: those are the current posted votes. you haven't posted, and neither has larry.
(11:24:58 AM) spies8stephanie: larry told me last night he was thinking of voting rondak out of self-def
(11:25:09 AM) spies8stephanie: not sure if he's still feeling that way
(11:25:11 AM) spies8chance: as if. he's got one vote. there's no need for self defense.
(11:25:41 AM) spies8stephanie: well i told him i was thinking of voting him as well, but still doesn't look likely
(11:25:48 AM) spies8chance: hm.
(11:25:56 AM) spies8chance: still, though, rondak has four posted votes without his.
(11:26:02 AM) spies8chance: i told him i was thinking of switching to rondak as well.
(11:27:15 AM) spies8stephanie: and perhaps they are all spies and i am worried for naught
(11:27:41 AM) spies8chance: lawrence says he thinks rondak is cit because he gets bad gut reads from dane.
(11:28:17 AM) spies8stephanie: that's easy for him to say now, when dane is out of danger
(11:28:24 AM) spies8chance: i know.
(11:28:27 AM) spies8stephanie: but did he vote dane last time?
(11:28:45 AM) spies8chance: don't believe so.
(11:29:02 AM) spies8stephanie: no he voted cinnamyn so that's not really a point
(11:38:05 AM) spies8stephanie: i really don't like that kiara and dane seem to be consistent rondak voters
(11:38:18 AM) spies8chance: especially after last episode.
(11:38:41 AM) spies8stephanie: huh?
(11:39:01 AM) spies8chance: i posted in the vote thread, i think, about how kiara defended rondak to me and then turned around and voted him.
(11:39:14 AM) spies8stephanie: oh
(11:39:27 AM) spies8stephanie: and she's voted him before
(11:40:01 AM) spies8stephanie: didn't they both vote rondak during the mags exile
(11:40:11 AM) spies8chance: i don't recall.
(11:46:50 AM) spies8chance: spies8chance 11:24 am
any idea on who you're voting yet?
spies8lawrence 11:26 am
Tentatively Rondak
Quite torn about this one

Every time I talk to Dane I get a bad gut read on him

So when he started pushing Rondak as a lurker lynch

I thought Rondak was Cit
(11:47:41 AM) spies8stephanie: it actually makes some sense, i feel the same way
(11:48:29 AM) spies8stephanie: dane and kiara nom. rondak at mags exile
(11:48:37 AM) spies8stephanie: they both voted him again last time
(11:48:48 AM) spies8stephanie: i think both dane and kiara are spies
(11:48:51 AM) spies8chance: you think they were trying to save magalie?
(11:49:00 AM) spies8stephanie: idk
(11:49:20 AM) spies8chance: i can see them saving cinnamyn, but i don't know if they'd have gone out on a limb for magalie.
(11:49:36 AM) spies8chance: regardless, i'm leaning that kiara should go today. but lawrence is making me feel weird.
(11:49:38 AM) spies8stephanie: well and it was just nom. so
(11:50:00 AM) spies8chance: lawrence is pushing dane pretty hard, but that could just be because i made him immune and so that's a safe way to go.
(11:50:04 AM) spies8chance: he's voting rondak, though.
(11:50:48 AM) spies8stephanie: so all 3 spies kiara, dane, larry are on rondak
(11:50:56 AM) spies8stephanie: plus mary and hambone?
(11:51:03 AM) spies8chance: looks like.
(11:52:44 AM) spies8stephanie: looks like a mistake to me
(11:53:02 AM) spies8chance: i think i agree with you.
(11:54:38 AM) spies8stephanie: we need to talk to mary and owen and see if we can convince both of them on either larry or kiara
(11:54:53 AM) spies8stephanie: then maybe we can talk rondak and hambone into voting with us
(11:55:53 AM) spies8chance: i can talk hambone into voting with me. he said as much.
(11:56:00 AM) spies8chance: 'ill vote who you tell me to vote' etc.
(11:56:06 AM) spies8stephanie: wow
(11:56:09 AM) spies8stephanie: that's nice
(11:56:10 AM) spies8chance: yeah i know.
(11:56:13 AM) spies8chance: it's annoying.
(11:56:17 AM) spies8chance: he needs to think for himself.
(11:56:24 AM) spies8chance: if i was a spy he'd doom the game for the cits.
(11:56:35 AM) spies8chance: i almost wish we hadn't impeached jasmine now.
(11:56:50 AM) spies8stephanie: surely he didn't tell you that before you were confirmed cit?
(11:57:33 AM) spies8chance: no, after.
(11:57:36 AM) spies8stephanie: i am going to leave my vote on larry for now
(11:57:47 AM) spies8stephanie: and go earn some money
(11:57:51 AM) spies8chance: hahaha.
(11:58:12 AM) spies8stephanie: but i should be back in 6 or 7 hours
(11:58:15 AM) spies8chance: me too.
(11:58:36 AM) spies8stephanie: later then

[Stephanie]

(8:06:36 PM) spies8owen: Hey.
(8:06:46 PM) spies8stephanie: owen!
(8:07:16 PM) spies8owen: Looks like it's gonna be Rondak no matter how much we push Law.
(8:07:25 PM) spies8stephanie: i dunno
(8:07:46 PM) spies8stephanie: i think we have you, me, rondak
(8:07:55 PM) spies8stephanie: perhaps chance and hambone
(8:08:11 PM) spies8owen: I can't believe I'm saying this, but I wish Jasmine could vote.
(8:08:17 PM) spies8stephanie: lol
(8:08:27 PM) spies8owen: I think we'd be able to convince her.
(8:08:43 PM) spies8stephanie: check with hambone
(8:14:01 PM) spies8stephanie: owen?
(8:14:12 PM) spies8stephanie: hambone wants to hear the case on larry again
(8:14:17 PM) spies8owen: I'm trying to sell Hammy.
(8:14:22 PM) spies8stephanie: oh ok
(8:15:35 PM) spies8owen: I told him about the accusation.
(8:15:45 PM) spies8owen: He doesn't understand how it would effect anything.
(8:15:52 PM) spies8owen: It does, considering Lawrence is a much better town player than this
(8:15:56 PM) spies8owen: All he's doing is backtracking now.
(8:16:46 PM) spies8stephanie: where is chance!
(8:22:10 PM) spies8owen: Hambone is considering changing onto Lawrence!
(8:22:53 PM) spies8stephanie: mary posted, but she's not online
(8:23:36 PM) spies8stephanie: i told chance this morning that i would be willing to switch to kiara if he thought that would be easier, but it looks to me like all of the spies are on rondak
(8:24:09 PM) spies8stephanie: dane and kiara are stuck on him
(8:24:36 PM) spies8stephanie: this ep, last ep, and they both nom. him during the mags exile
(8:24:56 PM) spies8stephanie: they look a little bit like a voting block?
(8:26:27 PM) spies8owen: Cin/Lawrence both were on Isaac/Mags. I think they did their bussing together.
(8:38:10 PM) spies8stephanie: i rly hope larry is a spy
(8:38:20 PM) spies8owen: I REALLY REALLY think he is.
(8:38:27 PM) spies8owen: And I'm not one to be overconfident like this.
(8:40:16 PM) spies8owen: Alright, let's see... 9 or 10 voters?
(8:40:25 PM) spies8owen: Nvm, 9
(8:40:26 PM) spies8stephanie: 9
(8:40:51 PM) spies8owen: Lawrence: Me, you, Rondak, MAYBE Hambone
Rondak: Kiara, Dane, Mary,
(8:40:51 PM) spies8stephanie: you, me, rondak, hambone, and i think chance
(8:40:55 PM) spies8owen: Chance on Kiara.
(8:40:59 PM) spies8stephanie: still
(8:41:06 PM) spies8stephanie: he told me larry this morning
(8:41:10 PM) spies8owen: If it's a tie, I'm not sure how it will work. I think I'm tiebreaker.
(8:41:19 PM) spies8owen: But if someone has a stray vote, I think they would revote.
(8:41:29 PM) spies8stephanie: can't be a tie with 9
(8:41:40 PM) spies8stephanie: revote with a stray i think is right
(8:42:09 PM) spies8owen: Chance really needs to get on.
(8:42:22 PM) spies8stephanie: yes! but still over an hour to go
(8:45:16 PM) spies8stephanie: (11:57:36 AM) spies8stephanie: i am going to leave my vote on larry for now
(11:57:47 AM) spies8stephanie: and go earn some money
(11:57:51 AM) spies8chance: hahaha.
(11:58:12 AM) spies8stephanie: but i should be back in 6 or 7 hours
(11:58:15 AM) spies8chance: me too.
(11:58:36 AM) spies8stephanie: later then

(8:45:45 PM) spies8owen: Oooh, I hope he meant "me too" about Larry.
(8:45:56 PM) spies8stephanie: either one should be ok
(8:46:34 PM) spies8stephanie: (11:17:36 AM) spies8chance: i'm going out for a while, but will be back hours before exile, so i'll have time to chat.

(8:46:50 PM) spies8stephanie: (11:16:40 AM) spies8chance: i'm thinking of switching to lawrence and then just not telling anyone.
(8:47:02 PM) spies8owen: I've actually thought about this being a blindside...
(8:47:09 PM) spies8owen: Just to not let possible bussers jump on.
(8:49:41 PM) spies8owen: God, I really hope this happens.
(8:50:03 PM) spies8stephanie: me too, since this is probably the last exile for one of us
(8:50:10 PM) spies8owen: Agreed.
(8:50:24 PM) spies8stephanie: maybe we should have a big fight tonight
(8:50:25 PM) spies8owen: I don't know if they'll kill me since it'd probably point right at the remaining spies.
(8:50:39 PM) spies8owen: And because people keep getting more suspicious the longer I'm here.
(8:50:53 PM) spies8owen: Which is the lamest excuse to suspect me, get some other evidence to go with that and I'd understand.
(8:51:21 PM) spies8owen: If they looked back at past seasons they'd realize that good town players have made it to the end before.
(8:52:31 PM) spies8stephanie: are you talking to dane or kiara?
(8:57:49 PM) spies8owen: CHANCE.
(8:57:54 PM) spies8stephanie: YAY
(8:57:58 PM) spies8owen: And no, I haven't talked to those two.
(8:58:44 PM) spies8owen: If we can get the 5 votes for sure I'll feel much better than a tie.
(8:59:21 PM) spies8owen: Have you talked to Kiara or Dane?
(8:59:25 PM) spies8stephanie: no
(8:59:37 PM) spies8stephanie: well kiara just came into group chat
(8:59:46 PM) spies8owen: I'm wondering if I should try to sway her.
(9:00:17 PM) spies8stephanie: let's wait and see what chance says
(9:01:54 PM) spies8stephanie: are you talking to chance?
(9:01:59 PM) spies8owen: Nope.
(9:02:02 PM) spies8stephanie: he says he can switch
(9:02:05 PM) spies8owen: Didn't wanna bombard him.
(9:02:09 PM) spies8stephanie: aahh
(9:02:22 PM) spies8owen: I'm most worried about Hambone switching his vote.
(9:02:40 PM) spies8stephanie: he's going to talk to hambone
(9:03:27 PM) spies8stephanie: i wonder why mary never came online
(9:03:35 PM) spies8owen: Not sure.
(9:03:51 PM) spies8owen: She stayed up until 5AM the other night to talk to me. Sent me an offline message because I never ended up getting on.
(9:03:58 PM) spies8stephanie: ack
(9:04:23 PM) spies8stephanie: how was your dr's appt btw?
(9:04:24 PM) spies8owen: I was on last night from midnight - 5AM, nobody.
(9:04:42 PM) spies8owen: Woke up on a few hours of sleep, get there, doctor won't see me because I didn't get my bloodwork done BEFORE.
(9:05:20 PM) spies8owen: So I have to go back in a few weeks after having my bloodwork done. >_>
(9:05:26 PM) spies8owen: Would have been nice if they could have called me before I went there.
(9:05:29 PM) spies8stephanie: oh no so you have to go back yuck
(9:05:41 PM) spies8stephanie: you still would have had to go to lab tho
(9:15:46 PM) spies8stephanie: phew
(9:17:02 PM) spies8owen: I feel really good about this.
(9:17:05 PM) spies8owen: Assuming it happens.
(9:17:14 PM) spies8stephanie: i feel rly nervous
(9:18:50 PM) spies8owen: I'm more nervous about the votes being there than him flipping scum.
(9:18:52 PM) spies8owen: I'm convinced.
(9:54:06 PM) spies8owen: If this all works out, damn, we're impressive.
(9:54:18 PM) spies8owen: Looked like we were the only 2 considering the Lawrence vote as of this morning.
(9:54:29 PM) spies8owen: Came on tonight thinking Rondak would be lynched.
(9:54:50 PM) spies8stephanie: i was hoping to get mary
(9:55:00 PM) spies8stephanie: but never saw her today
(10:20:08 PM) spies8stephanie: phew
(10:20:10 PM) spies8stephanie: wtg
(10:22:25 PM) spies8owen: I'm pretty sure I'm dead now.
(10:22:28 PM) spies8owen: But I really don't care.
(10:22:33 PM) spies8owen: This has made everything worth it.
(10:22:48 PM) spies8stephanie: it could be any one of us -- you never can tell
(10:22:50 PM) spies8stephanie: but yeah
(10:23:05 PM) spies8stephanie: it was great!
(10:24:20 PM) spies8stephanie: ok rondak owes us now

[Stephanie]

(9:00:02 PM) spies8stephanie: hi chance
(9:00:10 PM) spies8chance: hey steph.
(9:00:47 PM) spies8stephanie: so owen, me, and rondak are voting for larry
(9:00:55 PM) spies8stephanie: and we're hoping for you and hambone
(9:01:08 PM) spies8chance: i can switch my vote easy. how many on rondak right now?
(9:01:22 PM) spies8stephanie: larry, kiara, dane, mary
(9:02:21 PM) spies8chance: let me talk to hambone.

[Stephanie]

(6:57:18 PM) spies8stephanie: hi rondak
(6:58:49 PM) spies8rondak: hi stephanie
(6:59:19 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't like the way this is looking for you tonight
(7:00:02 PM) spies8rondak: I've dealt with it
(7:00:31 PM) spies8stephanie: how have you dealt with it?
(7:01:24 PM) spies8rondak: Like, I thought about being exiled and it's ok
(7:01:57 PM) spies8stephanie: it's only ok if you are a spy
(7:02:24 PM) spies8stephanie: and i was thinking that you were not spy
(7:03:58 PM) spies8rondak: I'm a realist, I acted scummy and there's no way for me to fix it in 3 hours
(7:04:13 PM) spies8rondak: and the timing of my actions was really bad
(7:04:21 PM) spies8stephanie: of course there is time
(7:04:27 PM) spies8stephanie: who are you voting for?
(7:04:29 PM) spies8rondak: I'm at class
(7:04:33 PM) spies8rondak: currently Lawrence
(7:04:34 PM) spies8stephanie: oh dear
(7:04:45 PM) spies8stephanie: oh dear at class
(7:04:50 PM) spies8stephanie: good for lawrence
(7:05:07 PM) spies8stephanie: are you going to be around later?
(7:05:19 PM) spies8rondak: maybe
(7:05:40 PM) spies8rondak: but if I'm not and I'm exiled one of the ghosties has the key to my final words
(7:06:17 PM) spies8stephanie: please stop in sometime before exile -- in a couple of hours or so
(7:07:17 PM) spies8rondak: I'll try
(7:07:25 PM) spies8rondak: my class ends at 9 cdt
(9:12:42 PM) spies8stephanie: your vote is still on larry, right?
(9:18:58 PM) spies8rondak: yup
(9:21:05 PM) spies8stephanie: ok
(9:21:20 PM) spies8rondak: I hate classes -____-
(9:21:40 PM) spies8stephanie: seems awfully late to be in class
(9:22:00 PM) spies8stephanie: and a rly long class
(9:22:05 PM) spies8rondak: yup
(9:22:12 PM) spies8rondak: ironically, I ended up wagoning again
(9:22:33 PM) spies8stephanie: i never went to class, just used to show up for exams
(9:23:07 PM) spies8rondak: can't do that here ._.
(9:23:14 PM) spies8rondak: sucks, but I'm almost done
(9:23:32 PM) spies8stephanie: i had rotten grades tho
(9:24:02 PM) spies8rondak: lol
(9:24:03 PM) spies8stephanie: and not sure i ever learned much
(10:07:02 PM) spies8stephanie: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
(10:07:26 PM) spies8rondak: thx
(10:16:36 PM) spies8stephanie: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
(10:17:53 PM) spies8rondak: thx xD
(10:18:01 PM) spies8rondak: too much drama to handle

[Stephanie]

(8:09:13 PM) spies8hambone: hey
(8:09:23 PM) spies8stephanie: long chin!
(8:10:21 PM) spies8stephanie: who are you voting? or is owen quizzing you?
(8:10:22 PM) spies8hambone: wideface :-)
(8:10:29 PM) spies8hambone: owens not quizzing me yet!
(8:10:33 PM) spies8hambone: maybe hes about to tho!
(8:10:42 PM) spies8hambone: im voting for brondak
(8:10:49 PM) spies8stephanie: no!
(8:11:09 PM) spies8stephanie: could i talk you into larry?
(8:11:27 PM) spies8stephanie: didn't you think owen made a good case?
(8:12:49 PM) spies8stephanie: chance and i decided this morning that all of the spies are voting rondak and we don't think that bodes well
(8:13:21 PM) spies8hambone: im very willing to switch
(8:13:27 PM) spies8hambone: cuz i basically agree
(8:13:33 PM) spies8hambone: i gotta hear out the case again
(8:14:35 PM) spies8stephanie: owen's better at it than i
(8:17:25 PM) spies8stephanie: i've voted larry so many times i'm really hoping this could be my last
(8:20:00 PM) spies8hambone: looool
(8:21:10 PM) spies8stephanie: i started voting him way back in ep 3 when he first got to republicans and was throwing suspicions every which way
(8:21:40 PM) spies8stephanie: he had gut spy read on Brod, most susp of Jas, going to make a case on isaac
(8:21:50 PM) spies8stephanie: never made that case btw
(8:22:13 PM) spies8stephanie: and ended up omgus voting me
(8:22:40 PM) spies8stephanie: along with dane
(8:25:43 PM) spies8stephanie: i particularly don't like the way dane and kiara have been voting rondak
(8:26:01 PM) spies8stephanie: they both voted rondak back in ep 6 during the mags exile
(8:26:32 PM) spies8hambone: based on my shitty ass case
(8:26:41 PM) spies8hambone: which is admittingly SHIT
(8:26:45 PM) spies8hambone: compared to most other ppls cases
(8:26:52 PM) spies8hambone: i dont know how to make good cases apparently
(8:26:57 PM) spies8stephanie: me either
(8:27:04 PM) spies8hambone: i thought my case on jenny was excellent =/
(8:27:35 PM) spies8stephanie: if i knew how to make a good case, larry would have been gone ages ago
(8:28:33 PM) spies8hambone: loololol
(8:28:35 PM) spies8hambone: i love u steph
(8:28:40 PM) spies8hambone: i wish u were online at the same time as me
(8:28:41 PM) spies8hambone: more oftne
(8:28:43 PM) spies8hambone: often
(8:28:48 PM) spies8stephanie: <3<3
(8:29:32 PM) spies8stephanie: i have to kill bugs for a living -- so have trouble staying up so late
(8:29:55 PM) spies8stephanie: i didn't see owen like for 3 weeks
(8:29:59 PM) spies8hambone: and u have a rly wide face
(8:30:06 PM) spies8stephanie: you rly have a long chin
(8:30:07 PM) spies8hambone: so u cant stay awake long
(8:30:16 PM) spies8hambone: u think my long chin is sexy tho? ;-)
(8:30:32 PM) spies8stephanie: just like my wide face??
(8:30:58 PM) spies8hambone: ;-)
(8:31:48 PM) spies8stephanie: so did owen talk you into voting larry yet?
(8:31:57 PM) spies8hambone: sort of
(8:31:58 PM) spies8stephanie: and do you know where chance is?
(8:32:10 PM) spies8stephanie: i want to make sure he left his vote on larry
(8:32:11 PM) spies8hambone: nope
(8:33:17 PM) spies8stephanie: you weren't here during imprisonment were you?
(8:33:33 PM) spies8stephanie: only owen and i were here...worried about being imprisoned
(8:33:57 PM) spies8hambone: i wasnt here no
(8:34:06 PM) spies8stephanie: but it was very odd that dane, kiara, and larry had been on for "hours" according to owen
(8:34:25 PM) spies8stephanie: and then left about an hour or less before imprisonment
(8:34:27 PM) spies8hambone: i dont see lawrence online
(8:34:29 PM) spies8hambone: ohh
(8:34:46 PM) spies8hambone: yeah that is weird
(8:34:57 PM) spies8hambone: next week im either voting for dane or kiara i think
(8:34:58 PM) spies8stephanie: like they didn't need to stick around, cause they already knew what was going to happen
(8:35:06 PM) spies8stephanie: me too
(8:35:16 PM) spies8stephanie: definitely one or other
(8:35:55 PM) spies8stephanie: unless jasmine goes crazy and confesses to being a spy
(8:38:09 PM) spies8hambone: she could easily be a spy
(8:38:33 PM) spies8stephanie: yep, if there were 4 left, she'd def be my 4th pick
(8:52:39 PM) spies8stephanie: are you talking to dane or kiara?
(8:54:21 PM) spies8hambone: nope
(8:54:24 PM) spies8hambone: i was speaking to dane
(8:54:27 PM) spies8hambone: but he stopped replying
(8:56:11 PM) spies8stephanie: i don't guess anyone is going to vote chance this time
(8:56:35 PM) spies8hambone: why
(8:56:41 PM) spies8hambone: thats not smart with so few votes
(8:57:02 PM) spies8stephanie: it's too close a vote to waste one on chance
(8:59:09 PM) spies8hambone: ya
(11:19:31 PM) spies8hambone: im so happy
(11:19:35 PM) spies8hambone: that u guys convinced me
(11:19:37 PM) spies8hambone: to switch my vote
(11:19:39 PM) spies8hambone: looooool
(11:19:53 PM) spies8hambone: i felt that i was getting fooled into voting wrong for a while now
(11:19:59 PM) spies8stephanie: i am so glad you switched it!
(11:20:04 PM) spies8hambone: :-)
(11:20:15 PM) spies8hambone: kiara or dane?
(11:20:17 PM) spies8hambone: which is next
(11:20:27 PM) spies8hambone: i guess kiara?
(11:20:54 PM) spies8stephanie: either one is ok with me
(11:22:02 PM) spies8hambone: same