Mary's Episode 5 Conversations

[Mary]

[18:39] spies8mary: Hi.
[18:39] spies8claude: Hello, my friend.
[18:39] spies8mary: I'm not really in the mood to play today but I just stopped in briefly.
[18:39] spies8mary: Has anyone been protecting Chance?
[18:40] spies8claude: I think a couple people have been like..side-protecting him
[18:40] spies8mary: I am happy with the nominees for the most part.
[18:40] spies8claude: Nothing direct, but trying to divert attention elsewhere.
[18:40] spies8mary: Ok.
[18:40] spies8claude: I think you're the only person I really trust right this minute, which is bad :-(
[18:41] spies8mary: I only told you and Owen my suspicions before Imprisonment.
[18:41] spies8mary: He's probably ok.
[18:41] spies8claude: Yeah..I'm mostly okay with him.
[18:41] spies8claude: I just don't really know anything about him.
[18:41] spies8claude: He was anti-Isaac, so that's a + I suppose.
[18:41] spies8mary: Yes.
[18:41] spies8mary: He was very receptive to me.
[18:42] spies8claude: I just want Chance to get lynched
[18:42] spies8claude: So, so badly.
[18:42] spies8mary: It may depend on who wins this stupid contest.
[18:43] spies8mary: One of the reasons I logged on was to see if any good candidates to win it need chats with me.
[18:43] spies8claude: I hate that the votes are being given back in such an arbitrary fashion.
[18:43] spies8mary: Yes.
[18:43] spies8claude: It looks like cory is going to win.
[18:43] spies8mary: It's a bad idea.
[18:43] spies8claude: I'm still mostly solid with Cory, but chance flipping spy might change that.
[18:43] spies8mary: I wish this was the end of the twist but I doubt it.
[18:44] spies8claude: It might be.
[18:44] spies8claude: I'm allowed to use my abilities against people that vote after today.
[18:44] spies8mary: Good.
[18:45] spies8mary: The next two days will be very busy deciding.
[18:45] spies8claude: sigh
[18:45] spies8claude: 2 days is too long
[18:45] spies8mary: Yes.
[18:45] spies8mary: And then a break.
[18:45] spies8mary: And then I go on vacation.
[18:45] spies8claude: yeah, was about to mention that
[18:45] spies8mary: I haven't told anyone that so please don't say.
[18:45] spies8claude: the break that is, not you going on vacation.
[18:45] spies8claude: Of course.
[18:46] spies8mary: It's only two or three days so I don't think I'll even post it.
[18:46] spies8mary: I don't want people aware I won't be around. In a previous game when I left they exiled someone I would have never allowed exiled.
[18:46] spies8claude: heh
[18:48] spies8mary: Rondak is a bad candidate.
[18:48] spies8claude: Really?
[18:48] spies8claude: Maybe.
[18:48] spies8claude: Gert is heavily suspicious of him.
[18:48] spies8claude: And I feel like she was one of those people subtlely defending Chance today.
[18:48] spies8mary: Her post was mediocre.
[18:49] spies8mary: And she pretended not to know what an HQ was.
[18:49] spies8mary: After posting and bolding a quote about it once.
[18:49] spies8mary: But if there's a Chance Sam will just remove Rondak that might be better.
[18:49] spies8claude: Ah.
[18:49] spies8mary: It's like a free exile.
[18:49] spies8claude: I don't think she was trying to say she doesn't know what the HG is
[18:50] spies8mary: spies8magalie: but when Last episodespies8magalie: happened
spies8hambone: hi
spies8magalie: Something about claude opened my eyes
[18:51] spies8mary: Is she saying she still suspects you? Or she doesn't anymore?
[18:51] spies8claude: I guess she's saying she doesn't anymore.
[18:51] spies8mary: Kiara's nomination.
[18:51] spies8claude: Which actually makes me more suspicious of her, but, w/e
[18:52] spies8mary: Bad.
[18:52] spies8claude: No way
[18:52] spies8claude: Well. Why do you say that?
[18:53] spies8mary: A single vote on Allan?
[18:54] spies8claude: Hmm?
[18:54] spies8mary: Looks like avoidance.
[18:54] spies8claude: Who is voting him anyway
[18:54] spies8mary: Just Kiara.
[18:54] spies8claude: Yeah
[18:54] spies8claude: So..all the more reason she is scummy?
[18:54] spies8claude: Oh I see.
[18:54] spies8claude: You were saying that her nominating Allan is bad
[18:55] spies8claude: Not that people nominating her(if anyone even ended up doing so) is bad.
[18:55] spies8mary: Yes.
[18:55] spies8claude: Okay good.
[18:55] spies8claude: I was going to be disappointed, she is one of my top suspects.
[18:55] spies8mary: She's normally a follower.
[18:56] spies8claude: Yeah
[18:56] spies8mary: This breaks the mold a bit.
[18:56] spies8claude: Like she 'followed' chance onto nominating me yesterday.
[18:56] spies8mary: Tina is weird.
[18:56] spies8claude: I go back and forth on her a bunch.
[18:56] spies8claude: Sometimes I think she's town
[18:56] spies8claude: Other times I really don't.
[18:57] spies8mary: If she's a Spy she'll be a tough one to exile.
[18:57] spies8claude: Goes along with what I was saying..I'm having a hard time trusting anyone but you right now. There are others that I'm pretty sure are Citizen, but not entirely
[18:57] spies8claude: It will help so much if Chance gets lynched.
[18:58] spies8claude: Kiara is on Rondak now
[18:58] spies8mary: Who was side-protecting Chance?
[18:58] spies8claude: She even copied Chance on his 'changing my vote so as not to waste it' bit
[18:58] spies8claude: Jenny, Gertrude, Dane.
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[Mary]

[18:18] spies8jenny: Hi Mary!
[18:18] spies8mary: Hi.
[18:19] spies8jenny: How are you?
[18:19] spies8mary: Do you know who is trying to win the vote contest?
[18:19] spies8mary: I'm ok.
[18:19] spies8jenny: I know Cory is going out of his way to try to win it.
[18:19] spies8mary: I'm not in the mood to play Spies today and I know the next two days will be very busy.
[18:19] spies8jenny: Hammy says he's not even trying.
[18:20] spies8mary: But I wanted to find out if a good vote candidate needed my help with chats.
[18:20] spies8mary: Do you think Cory is the best choice of all the people who are trying?
[18:20] spies8jenny: Cory's really the only one I know going out of his way to try.
[18:21] spies8mary: Ok.
[18:21] spies8mary: He's definitely better than some candidates I can imagine.
[18:21] spies8jenny: The annoying thing about the challenge, is it suggesting to not talk with people that you don't want to win.

That's entierly unhelpful for the long run.
[18:22] spies8jenny: I know Hammy is refusing to talk to me specifically for that, and I'm getting the impression that Stephi is doing similar.
[18:22] spies8mary: That's true. I wouldn't intentionally manipulate it like that but maybe some would.
[18:23] spies8jenny: Especially annoying, since I just try to talk with everyone like this anyways, so it's farily noticable when someone just starts being quiet, or when someone suddenly decides they want to speak up.
[18:24] spies8mary: I've enjoyed the day off of Spies actually. I spent a little time reading about people.
[18:24] spies8mary: But that's about it.
[18:24] spies8jenny: We got a break coming up after the exile.
[18:24] spies8mary: Yes.

[Mary]

[18:20] spies8mary: Hi.
[18:23] spies8mary: Jenny says you're trying to win your vote back.
[18:23] spies8mary: Do you know who else is trying?
[18:23] spies8cory: I am
[18:23] spies8cory: She is
[18:23] spies8cory: Lol.
[18:23] spies8mary: Who else?
[18:23] spies8cory: Claude but he has given up
[18:23] spies8cory: Tina is no longer trying
[18:24] spies8cory: O
[18:24] spies8cory: I'm not sure who else
[18:24] spies8cory: Dane refuses to talk to me
[18:24] spies8cory: So I'm down three chats
[18:24] spies8mary: That's lame.
[18:25] spies8cory: Ya
[18:25] spies8cory: Fucker
[18:25] spies8cory: I tried to balance the playing field by having Zed not talk to Jenny. Lol.
[18:25] spies8cory: Dirty pool
[18:25] spies8mary: I would talk to anyone who's not on top of my spy list and even then I think I would get more out of talking to them than blocking them.
[18:27] spies8cory: He would talk to me in chat
[18:27] spies8cory: But refused private chat
[18:27] spies8mary: It's a bad contest.
[18:29] spies8mary: I'm kind of taking the day off today.
[18:29] spies8cory: And eating your onions?
[18:29] spies8cory: And eyeballs?
[18:29] spies8mary: The next two days should be very busy deciding.
[18:30] spies8mary: I read about Lawrence and skimmed Magalie's posts again and looked into some of Gertrude's things about Rondak.
[18:30] spies8cory: Thoughts on Rondak?
[18:31] spies8mary: I'm not too much in the mood to play today but she pointed out an ok thing or two.
[18:32] spies8mary: I was suspicious of her comment that she had no idea what an HQ was.
[18:32] spies8cory: Well if you're in no mood to play, then let's not talk about the game I guess. Lol.
[18:32] spies8mary: Good.
[18:33] spies8mary: Can you please ask Magalie who her suspects are so I don't have to?
[18:34] spies8cory: Sure
[18:34] spies8cory: Lol, you should have seen her last night
[18:34] spies8cory: She was in the chat room stoned
[18:35] spies8cory: She said Lawrence was her top suspect
[18:35] spies8mary: What does that mean?
[18:35] spies8cory: Then said she had none
[18:35] spies8cory: It means she smoked a bong
[18:35] spies8mary: What's a bong?
[18:36] spies8cory: It's something she uses to clean out the working brain cells in her head.
[18:36] spies8cory: She calls it "recycling"
[18:36] spies8mary: Like an inhaler.
[18:36] spies8mary: Ok.
[18:36] spies8cory: Yes
[18:36] spies8cory: Exactly.
[18:36] spies8mary: Being cooped up in the same place for 20 years has stunted my slang vocabulary.
[18:37] spies8cory: I thought Peter was into philosophy
[18:37] spies8cory: And reading
[18:37] spies8mary: Peter's dead.
[18:37] spies8mary: When he died he was still learning to read Clifford the Big Red Dog.
[18:38] spies8cory: He died at a young age, did he
[18:38] spies8mary: 9.
[18:38] spies8mary: No, 7.
[18:38] spies8mary: I was 9.
[18:38] spies8cory: She said "it's between chance and claude"

[Mary]

[19:13] spies8cory: Mary.
[19:13] spies8cory: Simon.
[19:13] spies8cory: Peter.
[19:13] spies8cory: Dick.
[19:14] spies8mary: Hi Cory.
[19:14] spies8cory: Whichever you are today.
[19:14] spies8cory: Who are you voting?
[19:14] spies8cory: Yes I am asking point blank. Lol.
[19:14] spies8mary: Chance.
[19:14] spies8mary: I'll switch to Magalie if it's Rondak vs. Magalie.
[19:14] spies8mary: I also think we should discuss as a group.
[19:15] spies8cory: We should
[19:15] spies8cory: We could get a chat going now with the three of us online
[19:15] spies8mary: I don't know how to do that.
[19:15] spies8mary: Oh wait.
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[20:20] spies8cory: Hey
[20:20] spies8cory: Can you see this?
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[21:05] spies8mary: I don't think you're telling me the truth.
[21:05] spies8cory: About what?
[21:05] spies8mary: About this whole situation.
[21:05] spies8cory: Which part? Lol.
[21:06] spies8mary: That in the face of everything I've said about Chance and you've agreed to.
[21:06] spies8mary: Over time.
[21:06] spies8mary: That one conversation with Chance about a talk of his with Isaac
[21:06] spies8cory: It's that and more that I can't really explain
[21:06] spies8mary: Is convincing enough to override everything else.
[21:06] spies8mary: Ok.
[21:06] spies8mary: Then I will stop trying.
[21:06] spies8cory: Do you think I am a Spy?
[21:07] spies8mary: I don't know.
[21:07] spies8mary: I didn't think so.
[21:07] spies8cory: I'm not going to bullshit you
[21:07] spies8mary: I will talk to you later.
[21:07] spies8cory: Something came up within the past two days
[21:07] spies8cory: Are you leaving?
[21:07] spies8mary: Yes.
[21:07] spies8mary: I just wasted two hours.
[21:07] spies8mary: Bye.
[21:07] spies8cory: Bye.

[Mary]

[21:08] spies8mary: It had better be a good reason.
[21:08] spies8mary: And you had better be right.

[Mary]

[19:55] spies8mary: Hi.
[19:56] spies8mary: I am discussing Chance with Owen and Cory.
[19:59] spies8claude: Oh good
[19:59] spies8claude: Please 'discuss' them into lynching him. :-)
[19:59] spies8claude: I'm pretty sure Magalie will vote him anyway, for whatever that's worth.
[19:59] spies8claude: Assuming she shows up to cast her vote.
[19:59] spies8mary: spies8owen: I read Claude's case on Chance, none of it really stuck. I'll have to re-read. I didn't get into it.
[20:00] spies8mary: You may want to make the case in person.
[20:00] spies8claude: It's so hard explaining it to people that weren't around Day 1/2
[20:00] spies8mary: Yes.
[20:00] spies8claude: Magalie is the only other real choice anyway, and the entire composition of her wagon is suspect.
[20:00] spies8claude: Or most of it at least.
[20:00] spies8mary: I wouldn't mind exiling her.
[20:00] spies8mary: Who is a bad apple on her wagon?
[20:00] spies8claude: Like..I really wouldn't either, honestly. But she's not the better choice.
[20:00] spies8claude: Chance is :-P
[20:01] spies8claude: And Zedekiah is a complete blank.
[20:01] spies8mary: I am getting the gut feeling that these two don't want to vote Chance.
[20:01] spies8claude: I do too.
[20:01] spies8claude: Which bugs me.
[20:01] spies8mary: Cory just said that Chance backed off you episode 2 or 3.
[20:01] spies8mary: I called him on it.
[20:01] spies8mary: And now he's revising.
[20:02] spies8mary: Did you restrict Chance episode 3?
[20:03] spies8claude: Yeah
[20:03] spies8claude: He couldn't vote myself or Jasmine
[20:03] spies8claude: He couldn't have voted Jasmine anyway since she had been shipped to the other team
[20:03] spies8claude: But I spaced that when submitting the ability.
[20:03] spies8mary: Right.
[20:03] spies8mary: I had a concerned moment about you there.
[20:03] spies8claude: But honestly, the wagon composition against Chance is myself, Broderick, Awohali, and Stephanie.
[20:03] spies8claude: 4 people largely considered to be town.
[20:04] spies8mary: Look at the Day One Chance wagon too.
[20:04] spies8claude: Magalie's wagon include the other person that has a real chance of being lynched today..that alone should send up huge red flags for people
[20:04] spies8mary: CHANCE (4): Broderick, Mary, Awohali, Jasmine
[20:04] spies8claude: Yeah, exactly.
[20:04] spies8claude: Jasmine = probably town.
[20:05] spies8mary: Cory is using this quote in Chance's defense:
[20:06] spies8mary: spies8chance: mostly that i won't be pushing claude this episode like i have been. the old democrats know my views on him and they haven't changed, but the new ones don't need me to ruin their new perspective by me crusading.
[20:06] spies8claude: That 'stance' is nonsense
[20:06] spies8mary: I am pretty sure Chance was restricted by then.
[20:06] spies8claude: If you think someone is scum, you think they are scum.
[20:06] spies8claude: You don't just stop telling people because new people come to your team.
[20:07] spies8claude: For someone that is good at recognizing when people are trying to suck up, Cory should realize that is exatly what Chance is doing there.
[20:07] spies8claude: Besides, even after that Chance continued to tell everyone that would listen that I was a Spy.
[20:07] spies8mary: spies8mary: Did he say this before or after his vote was restricted?
spies8mary: If it was before, then maybe it's sincere.
spies8mary: If it was after, then it's stageplay.
[20:08] spies8claude: He couldn't vote me then anyway...there was no period where he was capable of doing so(between Epi 2-3)
[20:08] spies8claude: And who did he nominate E4? Right, me.
[20:08] spies8claude: So that statement is a lie anyway.
[20:08] spies8mary: Do you have evidence that he talked shit about you in episode 3?
[20:08] spies8claude: It's an excuse for him to not have to revisit his case on me, but still continue to call me scum.
[20:09] spies8claude: I saw him say 'Since I can't vote for Claude, I will vote for...(whomever)' at least a couple of times.
[20:09] spies8claude: And, as I said, he said he nominated me yesterday.
[20:11] spies8mary: spies8mary: He posted a six spies list that included four people.
spies8mary: And "Two Republicans"
spies8mary: He took one person off minutes later.
spies8mary: And minutes after that when asked who his top suspect was, said "Magalie."
spies8mary: Who was not on either list.
spies8mary: This is exactly what Jasmine and I caught Isaac doing.
[20:11] spies8mary: This is really frustrating me.
[20:11] spies8mary: They aren't receptive or asking the questions I'd expect them to ask.
[20:12] spies8claude: I know.
[20:12] spies8claude: Chance has been a top lynch candidate for most of the game, but has never been lynched.
[20:12] spies8claude: That is almost always indicative of a scum
[20:12] spies8mary: There has been so much resistance, just like you'd expect.
[20:13] spies8mary: Yes.
[20:13] spies8claude: When townies have gotten wagoned in this game, it met virtually no resistance.
[20:14] spies8claude: literally every sign in this game points to Chance being a Spy.
[20:20] spies8claude: goddamn this game.
[20:21] spies8mary: spies8cory: I'm saying the reason his list was inconsistent(I think that's wht you're saying) is that he came back after a while of not being around, yes, and not really having firm stances until he read up and talked to people.
[20:21] spies8mary: spies8cory: It's possible that after being MIA he was still decidingo n his suspects
[20:21] spies8claude: If he was still deciding, he would have said so.
[20:22] spies8claude: Not just 'name 2 town people'(and Isaac the Spy barned him on BOTH votes)
[20:22] spies8mary: spies8cory: His vanishing thing is debatable
spies8cory: Hard to say if it's legit
[20:22] spies8claude: Don't repeat this, but I may request replacement if Chance doesn't get lynched today.
[20:22] spies8mary: Ok.
[20:22] spies8claude: If it doesn't happen today, it's never going to.
[20:23] spies8mary: I am tearing my hair out in bunches right now.
[20:27] spies8claude: I'm trying my damndest to appeal to Cinnamyn
[20:27] spies8claude: Whom I'm not even completely convinced is town.
[20:28] spies8claude: Gah..fml
[20:28] spies8mary: She's in the room with Cory, Owen and me now.
[20:28] spies8mary: I am pretty sure I'm the only Chance voter.
[20:28] spies8claude: I think so too
[20:28] spies8claude: sigh
[20:30] spies8mary: Don't bother hammering on her.
[20:30] spies8mary: I am going to.
[20:32] spies8mary: When did Chance stop pushing you as a candidate?
[20:32] spies8claude: Today.
[20:32] spies8claude: He nominated me yesterday!
[20:32] spies8claude: But obviously that wasn't going to continue today, with Isaac flipping scum.
[20:41] spies8claude: God
[20:41] spies8mary: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=burg&thread=776&post=4032
[20:41] spies8claude: I am so mad right now.
[20:41] spies8mary: Claude
[20:41] spies8mary: I am lighting it up in there
[20:41] spies8mary: Look at that post in Exile 3.
[20:43] spies8claude: Yeah
[20:43] spies8claude: That attack on Jasmine isn't super OMGUS or anything.
[20:44] spies8mary: spies8mary: I never asked him why he switched from Jasmine and Magalie back to Claude there.
[20:45] spies8mary: Episode 3 -> Episode 4.
[20:45] spies8claude: Oh, that too!
[20:47] spies8mary: spies8mary: Cinnamyn, are you still there?
spies8mary: I'm pretty sure we lost Owen.
[20:47] spies8claude: Lost him like he DCed?
[20:47] spies8mary: spies8cinnamyn: sorry mary im doin' my critiques
spies8mary: Does that mean you're not really interested in discussing this?
spies8cinnamyn: well i already voted magalie, sooooooo
[20:47] spies8mary: No.
[20:48] spies8mary: He's just not saying anything when I call him out.
[20:48] spies8claude: Sigh
[20:49] spies8mary: spies8mary: You really think she's a more likely spy than Chance?
spies8mary: Give me percentages.
spies8cory: I have second thoughts about Chance
spies8cory: 60% magalie, 40% Chance
[20:50] spies8claude: If he is telling the truth about those %s, Chance being ON MAGALIES WAGON should be enough to move his vote.
[20:51] spies8mary: spies8mary: Hsa Owen decided on his vote as well?
spies8cory: I don't know
spies8cory: But I know he has been against a Chance exile since...
spies8mary: He doesn't seem very interested here.
spies8cory: The Gabe = doc thing
[20:52] spies8claude: Since Chance tried to run Jenny up on bad information.
[20:52] spies8claude: Which he also tried to do to me.
[20:52] spies8mary: You know what it sounds like here?
[20:53] spies8claude: ?
[20:53] spies8mary: Who is Magalie voting?
[20:53] spies8claude: I think she'll end up voting Chance.
[20:53] spies8claude: Not sure whom it was before
[20:53] spies8mary: Then it will be Magalie 3, Chance 2.
[20:53] spies8mary: I hope she's a spy.
[20:54] spies8claude: I feel bad saying it, but I kind of hope she isn't.
[20:55] spies8claude: Maybe, MAYBE then Chance will get lynched.
[20:55] spies8claude: Blah..I don't really mean that.
[20:55] spies8claude: Obviously if someone gets lynched I want them to flip Spy.
[20:55] spies8claude: I am just infuriated at how dumb everyone is being.
[20:55] spies8mary: Yes.
[20:57] spies8mary: spies8mary: I guess you have a gut read that I don't have.
spies8cory: It was based on his Isaac summaries
spies8mary: You should pm me whatever gives you that gut read because I am not seeing it.
spies8cory: The way he did that looked so not faked
[21:00] spies8mary: I am going to leave after Cory finishes summarizing Isaac's chats with Chance.
[21:00] spies8mary: The chats that apparently were so convincing that they have Cory pretty much refusing to consider Chance.
[21:00] spies8mary: He's not "refusing" but it sure feels like it.