Mary's Episode 4 Conversations

[Mary]

[09:30] spies8mary: Hi.
[09:39] spies8claude: Hello.
[09:39] spies8mary: Don't freak out and leave on me.
[09:39] spies8claude: I would never leave you, Mary.
[09:39] spies8mary: But I am finding it difficult to believe that you did not use the anonymizer role.
[09:40] spies8claude: For me to be lying.
[09:40] spies8claude: Allan would also have to be a liar.
[09:40] spies8mary: Why?
[09:40] spies8claude: Because I targeted him today, and he verified(to me at least) having been targeted
[09:40] spies8claude: So, I'm sure he would do the same for you.
[09:40] spies8claude: Tell you that I targeted him at least.
[09:40] spies8mary: Then this would be a one-time or multiple time limited use of your role.
[09:41] spies8mary: You have these three powers plus a limited ability to anonymize.
[09:41] spies8claude: Why would I be able to use more than one ability today, when I couldn't any other day.
[09:41] spies8mary: Good question.
[09:41] spies8mary: Do you think this could be tied to the exile immuning role?
[09:41] spies8claude: I doubt it.
[09:42] spies8mary: They also used their power today on Gertrude, right?
[09:42] spies8claude: Some Spy didn't want Isaac to get lynched.
[09:42] spies8claude: Yeah.
[09:42] spies8claude: So they tried to muddle things.
[09:42] spies8mary: Your position is that you are a Citizen who manipulates votes.
[09:42] spies8mary: And that now you are 100% certain there is also a spy who manipulates votes.
[09:42] spies8mary: Right?
[09:43] spies8claude: No, I am not 100% certain. It could just be a really dumb citizen.
[09:43] spies8claude: But that is ridiculously unlikely.
[09:44] spies8mary: Since I have viewed you as a Citizen for quite some time, my first thought was that this was a semi-selfish act on your part as a Citizen.
[09:44] spies8mary: Similar to your discussion of hijacking Owen's votes.
[09:44] spies8mary: Then I considered that it's a really unlikely ability to give a Citizen.
[09:44] spies8mary: Then I considered that Sam actively tries to keep us from metagaming him.
[09:44] spies8claude: I've seen townies with that role before.
[09:45] spies8mary: You have?
[09:45] spies8claude: But the timing of it makes it very unlikely, IMO.
[09:45] spies8claude: yeah, once or twice.
[09:45] spies8mary: The result seems purely anti-town.
[09:45] spies8claude: Agreed.
[09:45] spies8mary: As in, the lack of voting information.
[09:45] spies8mary: Not necessarily the removal of you and Rondak.
[09:46] spies8mary: If I were a Citizen with your role I would have considered using it there.
[09:47] spies8claude: I used the ability that I had left, on Allan. Now I'll be able to use any of my 3 abilities again tomorrow.
[09:47] spies8mary: From my perspective it would uncomplicate Owen's decision, eliminate the possibility of one misexile (me) and the only downside is possibly taking a Spy (Rondak) off the list.
[09:48] spies8claude: That makes sense.
[09:48] spies8claude: But it still wasn't me.
[09:48] spies8mary: Do we have any evidence of a Spy role that manipulated votes in the first three episodes?
[09:48] spies8claude: Not that I'm aware of.
[09:48] spies8mary: Other than possibly the exile immuner?
[09:49] spies8mary: Thank you again for the therapy session, by the way.
[09:49] spies8mary: I posted it. Hopefully you saw it and didn't mind?
[09:50] spies8claude: I am not sure what you're referring to
[09:50] spies8mary: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=885
[09:51] spies8claude: What does the link go to
[09:52] spies8mary: An audio recording.
[09:52] spies8claude: yeah I'm watching
[09:53] spies8claude: Chuckle
[09:53] spies8claude: Quite funny.
[09:53] spies8mary: That's not really the most professional way to describe it, Claude.
[09:53] spies8mary: But whatever. Thank you again for the help.
[09:54] spies8mary: Who do you think the six spies are?
[09:56] spies8claude: Hmmm.
[09:56] spies8claude: I'll have to figure that out now, as I no longer see Stephanie as a real possibility.
[09:56] spies8claude: Isaac, Chance, Gert.
[09:56] spies8claude: Rondak most likely.
[10:02] spies8mary: I talked to Gertrude for some time last night.
[10:02] spies8mary: She asked me if I thought she was a Spy and I said it was a distinct possibility.
[10:02] spies8mary: She seemed surprised and disappointed and asked why.
[10:03] spies8mary: I said it was because she was intentionally underperforming.
[10:03] spies8mary: Would you agree with that statement?
[10:04] spies8claude: Yeah.
[10:04] spies8claude: That's what I said at the start of Game Day 3, and she really overreacted I thought.
[10:04] spies8mary: She is one of the most logical, clever people around.
[10:05] spies8mary: And I think she's roleplaying a bandwagony Survivor player.
[10:05] spies8mary: I've seen Survivor players hunt spies before.
[10:05] spies8mary: They don't behave the way she's behaving.
[10:06] spies8mary: Gut + bad results from her = strong suspect.
[10:08] spies8claude: I agree.
[10:09] spies8mary: She asked if I'd seen anything Citizenlike from her.
[10:09] spies8mary: I absolutely struggled with that.
[10:09] spies8claude: That seems like a very uncitizenlike question.
[10:09] spies8mary: Then she asked me who I found most suspicious, Tina, Awohali or Broderick.
[10:10] spies8claude: How can anyone find Broderick or Awohali suspicious..
[10:11] spies8mary: I wouldn't say I've cleared them by any sense.
[10:11] spies8mary: But it's an odd question nonetheless.
[10:12] spies8mary: Have you seen Tina selectively ignore any suspects?
[10:12] spies8claude: I just don't know why should would single out those three.
[10:13] spies8claude: Hmm.
[10:13] spies8mary: Her case-making is pro-Citizen unless she selectively makes cases.
[10:13] spies8claude: I haven't seen that personally, but I haven't interacted with herm uch.
[10:13] spies8mary: Ok.
[10:14] spies8mary: For example, I definitely got a sense that Nita was avoiding committing to my Jenny case.
[10:14] spies8mary: And now I understand why.
[10:14] spies8mary: I haven't gotten that sense from Tina.
[10:14] spies8mary: Only that she is quick to leave a case when people bandwagon it.
[10:14] spies8claude: I'm still concerned that Tina ditched the Alexei wagon.
[10:15] spies8mary: Yes.
[10:15] spies8mary: She was raising evidence with Jenny in the hours before deadline.
[10:15] spies8mary: Looking for either confirmation of her thought process or validation for a vote shift.
[10:15] spies8mary: Jenny gave her nothing--refused to comment.
[10:15] spies8mary: It was really suspicious.
[10:16] spies8mary: I thought my Jenny case was rock solid until this Nita thing came up.
[10:16] spies8mary: Do you think the Spies would have planned it this way for her?
[10:16] spies8claude: What do you mean
[10:16] spies8mary: And do you think she is capable of pulling that level of deception off?
[10:17] spies8mary: If she is a Spy, then the spies planned exactly how this would play out.
[10:17] spies8mary: When they'd kill Nita, and why.
[10:17] spies8claude: talking about Jenny, now?
[10:17] spies8mary: And how Jenny would respond.
[10:17] spies8mary: Yes.
[10:17] spies8claude: Well, I'm fairly sure that the Spies tried to kill Nita N1 and failed.
[10:17] spies8mary: That was my guess.
[10:17] spies8claude: I don't understand what you mean about 'how Jenny would respond'
[10:18] spies8claude: Did I miss something?
[10:18] spies8mary: The Spies had to decide whether Jenny should admit her Nita situation or not.
[10:18] spies8mary: The alternative would be "cover it up and say nothing".
[10:19] spies8claude: Her 'Nita situation'?
[10:20] spies8mary: Unless Jenny is lying, she was approached by Nita and concealed Nita for 2 1/2 episodes.
[10:21] spies8claude: Hmmmm.
[10:21] spies8claude: That makes no sense.
[10:21] spies8mary: If she is a spy, her spy team could have easily told her to just cover that up.
[10:21] spies8mary: Never say a word about it.
[10:21] spies8mary: The vastly more risky plan would seem to be to come clean about it.
[10:21] spies8claude: Why would that be risky..
[10:21] spies8mary: Don't you think?
[10:22] spies8mary: It would bring attention upon her.
[10:22] spies8mary: That's what I'm considering.
[10:22] spies8mary: She appears to have received benefits from the claim.
[10:22] spies8mary: But could they have known that ahead of time?
[10:22] spies8claude: She received benefits from what claim
[10:23] spies8mary: From the way she told the Nita story.
[10:24] spies8mary: Are you seeing this differently than I am?
[10:24] spies8claude: I'm just not completely understanding it, I guess.
[10:24] spies8claude: What do you mean she 'received benefits'
[10:24] spies8mary: I see her as less suspicious as a result of her coming out and telling her Nita story.
[10:25] spies8claude: I'm pretty skeptical that Nita would tell anyone the truth of her role.
[10:25] spies8claude: Especially Jenny.
[10:25] spies8mary: I totally agree.
[10:25] spies8mary: I totally disagree with what Jenny says she did.
[10:25] spies8claude: And she is only telling people about it after Nita is dead.
[10:25] spies8mary: I wouldn't have handled it anywhere near like that.
[10:26] spies8mary: But I'm weighing whether her actions as a whole make sense as a Spy.
[10:27] spies8claude: I wonder if the Spies have a role that lets them learn someone else's role.
[10:27] spies8mary: Why?
[10:28] spies8mary: Then they'd have checked Nita most likely to assess the risk.
[10:28] spies8claude: It seems odd that 2 people went to Jenny and told her their role.
[10:29] spies8mary: Your logic doesn't make sense. Nita wasn't a Spy.
[10:30] spies8claude: I know.
[10:30] spies8mary: If you're thinking Allan's a Spy, the more likely conclusion is that Jenny's a Spy too.
[10:30] spies8claude: No, not Allan.
[10:30] spies8claude: Ah nm, I forgot that Allan told Jenny about his role, according to him.
[10:30] spies8claude: So did Jenny say why Nita told her this?
[10:30] spies8mary: You have reason to disbelieve that?
[10:31] spies8claude: Because it really makes absolutely zero sense to me.
[10:31] spies8mary: You know that answer, don't you?
[10:31] spies8mary: Why Nita came to Jenny?
[10:31] spies8claude: No..why would I ask you if I knew..
[10:31] spies8mary: The story goes that Nita was sure Jenny was a Spy.
[10:31] spies8claude: Try to remember that I was offline for 3 days.
[10:32] spies8mary: And wanted protection from Imprisonment.
[10:32] spies8mary: Jenny says the threat was "I'll make a case on you if you don't keep me safe."
[10:32] spies8mary: Which is an idle threat, I'd think.
[10:33] spies8claude: Hmm.
[10:37] spies8claude: It's hard to make much sense out of this.
[10:38] spies8mary: The net effect is it got me off her back.
[10:38] spies8mary: And I think a few people hopped on her because of it.
[10:39] spies8claude: She could be telling the truth..if she was in league with Nita somehow, then it makes more sense that she told Allan to tell Nita about his claimed role.
[10:39] spies8mary: Did she tell Allan to do that?
[10:40] spies8claude: I thought that was how it was explained
[10:40] spies8mary: I thought Allan claimed to make nicey-nice with Nita.
[10:40] spies8claude: But I could be remembering incorrectly.
[10:40] spies8mary: She was on his back and
[10:40] spies8mary: But regardless
[10:40] spies8mary: I can't imagine a Citizen telling a role to claim to a third party.
[10:41] spies8mary: I haven't seen that stated.
[10:41] spies8claude: I'll do some research on it.
[10:41] spies8mary: It seems like "get a roleholder killed" would be a logical secret agent mission.
[10:42] spies8mary: Or "Get a Citizen roleholder killed."
[10:42] spies8claude: maybe
[10:42] spies8claude: I don't really see the use in that kind of speculation, honestly.
[10:42] spies8mary: Would you have outed Nita?
[10:43] spies8claude: Yes.
[10:43] spies8claude: The entire playerbase trusted her, when she really should not have been trusted.
[10:43] spies8mary: Same here.
[10:43] spies8mary: So one question is, why didn't Jenny out her.
[10:44] spies8claude: I can't see any Citizen just keeping that under wraps.
[10:45] spies8mary: I agree. Jenny's arguments are posted though, and it's just tough to see why a Spy wouldn't have avoided all this mess to begin with.
[10:46] spies8claude: Well
[10:46] spies8mary: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=burg&thread=893&post=4826
[10:48] spies8mary: I'm starting to wonder whether Lilith is a spy.
[10:48] spies8claude: I don't see anything indicating that she is.
[10:48] spies8mary: This is the second time I've seen her say "It explains to me why Nita wasn't targetted earlier."
[10:48] spies8claude: ?
[10:49] spies8mary: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=burg&thread=826&post=5014
[11:07] spies8claude: The whole thing makes so little sense to me.
[11:11] spies8claude: The way that Jenny handled Allan claiming vs. how she handled Nita claiming is also troubling.
[11:11] spies8mary: How so?
[11:12] spies8claude: I mean like..she outed Allan, but, not Nita?
[11:12] spies8mary: Nita wasn't in danger of Exile.
[11:12] spies8mary: Allan arguably was.
[11:12] spies8claude: Nita also claimed a role that would inevitably end up hurting the town.
[11:12] spies8mary: Yes.
[11:13] spies8mary: I agree with you utterly. Jenny did not handle the Nita situation like a Citizen should/would.
[11:13] spies8claude: Blah.
[11:13] spies8claude: Yeah.
[11:13] spies8claude: I don't want to try to figure this out today really, I'd rather lynch Isaac and try to work it out from there.
[11:13] spies8mary: Right.
[11:14] spies8mary: A spy would use Nita til she got on to other Spies.
[11:14] spies8mary: And then poof.
[11:15] spies8claude: I'm not even sure I believe Jenny, heh.
[11:16] spies8mary: There's no way she made up all that.
[11:16] spies8claude: It's just so convenient.
[11:16] spies8mary: There could be lies in it, but the core of the story must have happened.
[11:17] spies8mary: I just don't get how a Citizen doesn't pin Nita down on all her tasks.
[11:17] spies8claude: Or at least try to..
[11:17] spies8mary: And if Jenny catches Nita doing anything anti-Cit, she outs her.
[11:17] spies8claude: How hard is it to say 'tell me your tasks or I'll out you'
[11:24] spies8mary: Chance is a Spy.
[11:25] spies8claude: I'm already of that opinion..
[11:25] spies8mary: He made, or tried to make an extensive case on you.
[11:25] spies8mary: He's not done a single thing since then.
[11:25] spies8mary: And he's rested on that case.
[11:25] spies8mary: Which sucks.
[11:26] spies8claude: lol
[11:32] spies8claude: Lilith does bring up one good point re: Jenny, though.
[11:33] spies8claude: Why would a spy ever come forward with that information(about Nita).
[11:33] spies8mary: That's what I was trying to tell you earlier.
[11:33] spies8mary: When you weren't understanding me.
[11:34] spies8mary: spies8mary: I thought my Jenny case was rock solid until this Nita thing came up.
spies8mary: Do you think the Spies would have planned it this way for her?
[11:34] spies8mary: spies8mary: The Spies had to decide whether Jenny should admit her Nita situation or not.
spies8mary: The alternative would be "cover it up and say nothing".
[11:34] spies8claude: I just don't see what the benefit is if she is a Spy.
[11:35] spies8mary: Right, unless they are so crafty that they worked all this out ahead of time.
[11:35] spies8claude: I guess
[11:35] spies8mary: And gambled that it would make Jenny look good.
[11:35] spies8claude: Like, that is definitely possible.
[11:35] spies8claude: But it's a pretty convoluted gamble.
[11:36] spies8mary: That's exactly why I've backed off Jenny.
[11:36] spies8claude: I don't want to lynch her over Isaac anyway.
[11:36] spies8mary: It's a terrible piece of evidence to rely on because it's WIFOM or whatever.
[11:36] spies8mary: Right.
[11:36] spies8mary: I would have considered Chance over Isaac.
[11:36] spies8mary: But right now it's all Isaac.
[11:36] spies8claude: Me too obviously.

[Mary]

[12:15] spies8mary: Hi.
[12:15] sorintheseeker: yoyo
[12:15] spies8mary: I hope you're having a nice day.
[12:16] spies8mary: I'm feeling so much better after the therapy session I had with Claude Monday.
[12:16] spies8mary: Did you listen to the audio transcript of it I posted?
[12:17] sorintheseeker: i did!
[12:17] sorintheseeker: it was really cool :-)
[12:17] sorintheseeker: spooky and enlightening
[12:17] spies8mary: I hope we can do another one soon.
[12:17] sorintheseeker: but didn't mary lie about killing him with some other object that wasn't an icicle?
[12:17] spies8mary: I like Claude.
[12:17] spies8mary: I wouldn't hurt Claude.
[12:18] spies8mary: I don't think Simon would either unless Claude made unnecessary fast moves.
[12:29] sorintheseeker: lol
[12:29] sorintheseeker: sorry about the pause
[12:29] sorintheseeker: so you talked to isaac recently about his options?
[12:30] spies8mary: He hasn't been around.
[12:30] spies8mary: He's at a funeral supposedly.
[12:32] sorintheseeker: oh i thought you had i guess not
[12:32] spies8mary: I posted options.
[12:32] spies8mary: I think only you can see if he's actually logged in to read them.
[12:32] spies8mary: I have no clue who used the anonymizer role.
[12:32] spies8mary: Fascinating.
[12:33] spies8mary: My first guess would be Claude.
[12:33] spies8mary: Even though it's a Spy role.
[12:36] sorintheseeker: lol
[12:36] spies8mary: I agree, the whole situation is funny.
[12:36] spies8mary: I almost smiled last night for the first time in 20 years.
[12:38] sorintheseeker: how old is mary? lol
[12:38] spies8mary: I am 29.
[12:38] spies8mary: I've been at the hospital since I was 9.
[12:39] sorintheseeker: cool
[12:39] sorintheseeker: okay just so you don't think im a dick lol, i really like the mary roleplaying and think its amazing + unique + special and i like reading about it but
[12:39] sorintheseeker: i guess im not just a person to talk to a roleplayed character in person haha
[12:40] spies8mary: No problem.
[12:40] sorintheseeker: it doesn't jive for me, yo ucan do it if you want, but i wil lbe boring with my responses
[12:40] spies8mary: I wasn't sure if you missed out on the fun of interacting with characters like we all get to.
[12:41] sorintheseeker: yeah, i think though that i know who you are all that makes it tough for me
[12:41] spies8mary: haha
[12:41] sorintheseeker: which is why i hate it when people theorize about who is who! sometimes i wish i didn't know!
[12:41] spies8mary: it'd actually be a nice change of pace to break character
[12:41] spies8mary: it's exhausting
[12:42] spies8mary: have you already started optho school?
[12:42] sorintheseeker: it starts at the end of august, so really soon!
[12:42] sorintheseeker: doing a bunch of preparations
[12:42] spies8mary: Better enjoy the time off while you have it.
[12:42] spies8mary: That sounds like a brutal regimen
[12:43] sorintheseeker: yeah i know haha.
[12:43] sorintheseeker: but i was looking at the scheudle and its not as bad as i thought. i thought it would be classes from 8-5 everyday
[12:43] sorintheseeker: but i get off like at 11am on two days
[12:43] sorintheseeker: and only one goes all the way to like 4:00
[12:43] sorintheseeker: so thats really pleasant
[12:43] spies8mary: will you have to work a job during the school year?
[12:44] sorintheseeker: nope
[12:44] spies8mary: it'd be nice to be able to just study
[12:45] sorintheseeker: it will be!
[12:45] sorintheseeker: are you in any other mafia games atm?
[12:45] spies8mary: nope
[12:46] spies8mary: no time, really
[12:46] spies8mary: this will be the last hurrah for a long while I think
[12:46] spies8mary: i still waste a little time on warcraft. did you give it up?
[12:46] spies8mary: i only do about 8 hours a week.
[12:47] sorintheseeker: yeah i haven't played since before 3.1 came out
[12:47] spies8mary: that's healthy
[12:47] sorintheseeker: i was sort of hoping cataclysm would come out befoer summer so i could play but oh well
[12:47] spies8mary: is school local or a long way from home?
[12:47] sorintheseeker: its in indiana
[12:47] sorintheseeker: im in kansas
[12:48] spies8mary: Cool.
[12:48] spies8mary: Your first time living that far from home?
[12:49] sorintheseeker: nah i've done it before. im really excited to leave my parent's house =D
[12:49] sorintheseeker: counting the days!
[12:49] spies8mary: where else have you lived?
[12:50] sorintheseeker: when i was 16 i lived on college campus about 45 minutes away and then for half of other college i was in illinois
[12:50] spies8mary: near chicago, or more rural?
[12:50] sorintheseeker: urbana-champaign
[12:50] spies8mary: oh
[12:50] sorintheseeker: 2 hours south
[12:50] spies8mary: it's nice down there
[12:50] sorintheseeker: its an excellent college / town!
[12:50] spies8mary: i lived in chicago.. it was ok but freeeeeezing
[12:50] sorintheseeker: haha yeah esp. with the wind
[12:51] spies8mary: i'm enjoying cinnamyn's quality of roleplay.
[12:51] spies8mary: whoever's playing her is doing a great job.
[12:51] sorintheseeker: they are!
[12:51] spies8mary: magalie is utterly ridiculous too.
[12:51] spies8mary: i've laughed out loud at her at least ten times
[12:52] sorintheseeker: lol
[12:52] sorintheseeker: what do you think of her new gameplay?
[12:52] spies8mary: haha
[12:52] spies8mary: slightly improved
[12:52] spies8mary: she's lucky to be alive, frankly
[12:52] spies8mary: she's obviously smarter than she lets on
[12:53] spies8mary: i'll shit myself with glee if she continues to improve
[12:54] spies8mary: hambone is fun and cleverer than he plays
[12:54] spies8mary: but i think he's getting himself in trouble
[12:54] spies8mary: i was hoping he'd last to the end like crazy cat lady
[12:55] sorintheseeker: hehe
[12:55] sorintheseeker: i guess time will tell
[12:56] spies8mary: i'm going to go for a run in the 115 degree heat
[12:56] spies8mary: supposedly it's good for you
[12:56] spies8mary: talk to you later!
[12:56] sorintheseeker: haha, have fun, and get a record time!
[12:56] sorintheseeker: ttyl

[Mary]

[14:29] spies8jenny: Been trying to figure out what to do with the new information we have about what almost has to be a spy role, while I was at work today.
[14:29] spies8mary: The Anonymizer?
[14:29] spies8jenny: We really can't just have our votes flying all over the place like we've been doing, when we have to pick 3 people to go up, and especially since we don't know how often the.. .sure I like that name, the anonymizer can use his power.
[14:30] spies8jenny: Like I've said to a few people before, when you're doing voting for multiple people like this, the best spot for the spies to exploit is that bottom nomination.
[14:30] spies8jenny: Even more so if we have this anonymizer to worry about, that can let the spies spread their votes out however they want without needing to worry about people seeing what they are doing.
[14:31] spies8mary: I can't imagine Sam would let the Spies do that very often.
[14:31] spies8mary: And I can't imagine a Cit would do that very often.
[14:31] spies8jenny: I doubt it will be every round as well, there has to be some limit on it, but we have no idea what that limit is yet.
[14:31] spies8mary: It had the net effect of protecting Claude and Rondak this time.
[14:31] spies8mary: And that seems to be about all.
[14:32] spies8jenny: And I don't see any way this could be a citizen role. How on earth could citizens ever benefit from having a role that hides information like that?
[14:32] spies8mary: I don't think we can benefit.
[14:32] spies8mary: But I can see Sam trying to trick us.
[14:32] spies8mary: So I'll keep a slightly open mind.
[14:32] spies8mary: I really think Claude used it.
[14:32] spies8mary: It just makes the most sense.
[14:33] spies8jenny: Sam could try to trick us with things yes, but at some point you just have to go "Screw it" as far as wifom is concerned.
[14:33] spies8jenny: If you try to wifom everything that ever happens you'll never get anywhere.
[14:33] spies8mary: Right.
[14:33] spies8jenny: Besides, I've found in practice that for the most part, it only even comes into play when it's called bussing. Maybe a role.
[14:34] spies8jenny: I don't think this is connected with Claude's role personally. Doesn't seem to fit really with what else he had.
[14:35] spies8mary: Do you think it's tied to the exile immunity role?
[14:35] spies8jenny: I think it's just it's own role. There was a role last game that was rather similar, except it covered up someone's alignment after they were taken out of the game for a couple rounds.
[14:36] spies8mary: How many times was it used? Or could it be used?
[14:36] spies8jenny: This seems to be a different version of the same kind of concept.
[14:36] spies8jenny: It was only used once last game, because they died the first round.
[14:36] spies8jenny: Let me go look at the description for it again.
[14:36] spies8mary: So one player's role was to do that action two or three times?
[14:37] spies8mary: And the other days do nothing?
[14:37] spies8jenny: here we go
[14:37] spies8jenny: They had the option to cover up someone's alignment after they were exiled, but they could only use it twice.
[14:38] spies8jenny: I don't know if it's the same kind of thing this time, or if it will be some variety of "once every x phases"
[14:40] spies8mary: And that was their entire role?
[14:40] spies8jenny: The point I was trying to make though was that the third nomination is the biggest weak spot we have for this stuff, and this anonymizer only exemplifies it. I've seen games where multiple people had to be picked before, and the mafia usually tried to find some way, be it their own votes or through role powers to sneak in someone they wanted into that last slot.
[14:40] spies8jenny: The other person had another action that let them delay role powers.
[14:40] spies8jenny: But that never got used.
[14:41] spies8jenny: It would have delayed whatever actions were done on someone for an episode.
[14:41] spies8mary: The same person had both abilities?
[14:41] spies8jenny: That one they could was actually supposed to be the main power, with the alignment cover up thing a sort of bonus, but since they died so fast, the alignment cover up was the biggest thing most people ever saw about it.
[14:42] spies8jenny: Here
[14:42] spies8jenny: spies7.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=perr987&action=display&thread=300
[14:42] spies8jenny: That's their role topic.
[14:42] spies8mary: Seven times during the game, you can delay a role action.
[14:42] spies8mary: you can delay the alignment reveal of an Exiled player
[14:42] spies8mary: two times only
[14:42] spies8mary: Ok.
[14:43] spies8mary: That works out to nine uses.
[14:43] spies8jenny: The Anonymizer we have this time around at least from what we've seen so far seems to be a sister role to the one from last game.
[14:44] spies8mary: Ok, so probably a Spy. You don't think Claude could have four skills including that one?
[14:44] spies8jenny: It's possible I guess, but I'd be surprised if he gave that many powers to one person.
[14:44] spies8mary: Force a vote.
[14:44] spies8jenny: I have to head out for a bit, car shopping. I'll be back on in maybe an hour or two.
[14:44] spies8mary: Prohibit a vote.
[14:44] spies8mary: Take away a vote.
[14:45] spies8mary: Anonymize votes doesn't quite fit.
[14:45] spies8jenny: Kind of what I was saying yeah.
[14:45] spies8jenny: Alright, I'll be back in a while
[14:45] spies8mary: Ok.