Episode 9 - Conversations

[Kiara]

Thursday, August 05, 2010
spies8cinnamyn (1:41:02 PM): aye kiara
spies8kiara (1:41:09 PM): hey cinn whats up?
spies8cinnamyn (1:41:22 PM): not a whole lot but im offa work 2day.! fukk yea
spies8kiara (1:41:55 PM): woo! got plans?
spies8cinnamyn (1:42:09 PM): not really i gotta save my energy 4 da weekend
spies8cinnamyn (1:42:24 PM): i cant drink dat crunk juice if im tired, u no.?
spies8kiara (1:42:43 PM): haha true
spies8cinnamyn (1:43:32 PM): how bout u.?
spies8kiara (1:45:10 PM): not much going on. so i figured id spend some time looking through old stuff in the burg. hopefully i can find something that somehow got overlooked and nail a spy, cuz otherwise i think ill be in the watcher lounge this time next week
spies8cinnamyn (1:45:47 PM): i am frustrated
spies8cinnamyn (1:45:57 PM): at the rolegroup, mostly
spies8kiara (1:46:09 PM): that it existed or what it did?
spies8cinnamyn (1:46:30 PM): what it did
spies8cinnamyn (1:46:34 PM): and what it is STILL doing
spies8cinnamyn (1:47:20 PM): everyone still has each others back, which is stupid because there's obviously a spy in there
spies8cinnamyn (1:47:33 PM): why would the doctor cory and imp protector gertie die otherwise?
spies8cinnamyn (1:47:47 PM): yet mary doesn't suspect anyone in there??? cmon
spies8kiara (1:49:11 PM): i wouldnt say everyone has everyone elses back. i think chance regrets gerty claiming to claude, and claude seems to have a strong bit of mistrust for owen
spies8cinnamyn (1:50:40 PM): and claude takes my vote away after i express strong interest in targetting the rolegroup?
spies8kiara (1:50:51 PM): claude voteblocked you?
spies8cinnamyn (1:50:56 PM): yea
spies8kiara (1:51:08 PM): thats actually a bit surprising
spies8cinnamyn (1:51:24 PM): i dont no how he trusted me more than owen wen he blocked owen
spies8cinnamyn (1:51:29 PM): but now thats not tha case
spies8kiara (1:53:51 PM): well, ive been saying this whole time that how hes been using his role has been bizarre to the point of being scummy. if anyone from that role group is a spy (and i agree one of me/owen/mary/claude nearly has to be) my money is on him.
spies8cinnamyn (1:54:29 PM): he sed he suspects me bcuz i "havent done n e thing this whole game"
spies8cinnamyn (1:54:34 PM): but he only realized this within the past couple of days
spies8cinnamyn (1:54:38 PM): after broderick posted a case on me
spies8kiara (1:55:13 PM): well, without being able to use tunneling chance as an excuse anymore he needs some other wagon to jump on
spies8cinnamyn (1:55:34 PM): then rondak sed he suspected me bcuz i started the awohali wagon
spies8cinnamyn (1:55:41 PM): and he voted 4 awohali
spies8kiara (1:55:47 PM): lol
spies8cinnamyn (1:55:47 PM): plz explain that 2 me
spies8kiara (1:56:09 PM): ya that doesnt make any sense
spies8cinnamyn (1:56:42 PM): spies8rondak: (12:41:16 AM)I personally think the case you made on Awohali was what doomed him
spies8rondak: (12:41:20 AM)Let me explain
spies8cinnamyn: (12:41:25 AM)well u voted him
spies8rondak: (12:41:34 AM)You made what he called a "weak case" on him
spies8rondak: (12:41:46 AM)At that point I was eager to just wagon
spies8cinnamyn (1:56:55 PM): he defends himself by saying he wuz eager 2 wagon
spies8cinnamyn (1:56:56 PM): lmbo
spies8kiara (1:57:03 PM): lolwut
spies8cinnamyn (1:57:25 PM): hiz "im making a case" thred seemz so contrived 2 me also
spies8kiara (1:58:01 PM): ya thats fucking dumb. if you have something to say then just say it, you dont need to announce that your going to make an announcement
spies8cinnamyn (1:58:27 PM): i wudnt b surprised if the spiez told him 2 do that but then he fukked it up lmbo
spies8kiara (1:59:25 PM): ive still yet to talk to him, never see him around. but he doesnt seem to be all that bright (or at least is pretending not to be)
spies8cinnamyn (2:01:23 PM): so between those 2 dingleberries on my wagon and getting my vote taken away
spies8cinnamyn (2:01:27 PM): dis bitch iz a little bummed
spies8cinnamyn (2:01:40 PM): but i am not going 2 roll over and die i want 2 kick spy ass
spies8kiara (2:02:35 PM): well, at least your dont have to worry about brodericks vote i guess, lol. so if you did have your vote, who you think itd be on?
spies8cinnamyn (2:02:55 PM): rondak
spies8cinnamyn (2:03:08 PM): he haz dun nothing but bandwagon (and admit it) and copy others' suspishins
spies8cinnamyn (2:03:14 PM): and they change depending on who he talks to last
spies8cinnamyn (2:03:25 PM): and i dont want him 2 magalie 2 the end
spies8kiara (2:04:22 PM): hes someone im planning on looking a lot into today. hes got a pit of an excuse though being a replacement. he can pretty much ignore all the actions of old rodnak and just say 'it wasnt me'
spies8cinnamyn (2:05:10 PM): but compared 2 lawrence, i think lawrence haz dun a heck of a lot and rondak not so much
spies8cinnamyn (2:05:13 PM): so itz not really an excuse
spies8cinnamyn (2:05:19 PM): espeshully 3 roundz in now
spies8kiara (2:05:37 PM): true
spies8cinnamyn (2:06:39 PM): wut r u thinkin' suspect wize.?
spies8kiara (2:08:59 PM): if i were to rank everyone, dane, owen, rondak, claude, and jasmine would be at the top though not in that order. if i had to vote right now, itd probably be claude, but thats could change if i find a stronger reason for someone else
spies8cinnamyn (2:10:11 PM): i can agree wit' that
spies8cinnamyn (2:10:17 PM): tho i dont think jasmine shud b exiled 4 obvious reazinz
spies8kiara (2:10:44 PM): unless it becomes incredibly obvious that shes a spy, i agree
spies8cinnamyn (2:13:36 PM): i no the other 1s but y dane.?
spies8kiara (2:14:55 PM): this one is honestly mostly gut. something has just felt wrong about him for me the whole game. but someone else was always doing something that seemed more scummy to me so my attention was more on them. ive just kinda been ignoring him. and it seems most everyone else has too, and that worries me a bit
spies8cinnamyn (2:15:27 PM): i liked when he voted lawrence and openly said it wuz omgus
spies8cinnamyn (2:15:28 PM): lmbo
spies8kiara (2:16:01 PM): hes been doing a lot of fos/nom/voting with omgus logic
spies8cinnamyn (2:18:07 PM): may b hes just a idiot.?
spies8kiara (2:18:27 PM): lmao i havent ruled that out as a possibility.
spies8cinnamyn (2:19:42 PM): thatz pretty much how i feel about hambone
spies8cinnamyn (2:19:45 PM): hez just a idiot
spies8kiara (2:20:24 PM): yah that boys taken one too many blows to the head. though all the chairs ive hit him with probably havent helped lol
spies8cinnamyn (2:27:00 PM): ok well imma pop out 4 a lil bit i mite b on l8r tho
spies8cinnamyn (2:27:01 PM): ttyl boo
spies8kiara (2:27:05 PM): later

[Kiara]

Friday, August 06, 2010
spies8chance (5:50:39 PM): hey kiara, who you votin'?
spies8kiara (5:51:09 PM): honestly idk. cinn looks like the best option on paper, but i know someone is gonna go 'omfg bandwagon!'
spies8chance (5:51:23 PM): yeah. me.
spies8chance (5:51:32 PM): especially since rondak of all people is suddenly pushing her.
spies8chance (5:51:46 PM): his /one/ case so far in this game just happens to be made on the person currently most suspected by the burg? i don't think so.
spies8kiara (5:51:59 PM): rondak is my #2, so its an intersting delemia for me
spies8chance (5:52:10 PM): i would love to see rondak go over cinnamyn this round.
spies8chance (5:52:23 PM): not that i don't think cinnamyn couldn't be a spy, but rondak's pushing her this round when he's never suspected her before is beyond suspicious.
spies8chance (5:52:34 PM): he's bandwagoned ever since he replaced in and no one's really called him on it.
spies8kiara (5:52:42 PM): no, i agree he has
spies8chance (5:53:26 PM): i call bullshit. he's just trying to get /someone/ lynched.
spies8kiara (5:53:47 PM): but if thats the case, why imprison the one person pushing hardest on the target?
spies8chance (5:53:59 PM): easy frame.
spies8chance (5:54:12 PM): 'oh look, brod was imprisoned, clearly he was onto something with cinnamyn'
spies8chance (5:54:16 PM): claude even said as much earlier.
spies8kiara (5:54:25 PM): wifom fail
spies8chance (5:54:49 PM): exactly, but it's the only reason i can think of brod would be imprisoned over me or owen and it makes sense.
spies8chance (5:54:55 PM): the spies control one third of the populace right now.
spies8chance (5:54:59 PM): a voting block of four if they need it.
spies8chance (5:55:06 PM): pushing mislynches is getting easier and easier for them.
spies8kiara (5:55:40 PM): but lets be honest, they could have gotten cinn lynched if shes a cit without imprisoning brody to frame her
spies8chance (5:55:56 PM): i don't know.
spies8chance (5:56:39 PM): regardless of that, rondak's pushing her is bullshit.
spies8kiara (5:57:02 PM): id go as far as suspect
spies8chance (5:57:29 PM): i thought you said he was your #2?
spies8kiara (5:58:37 PM): i think calling it pure pull shit is a bit hasty. just because i suspect someone doesnt mean i ignore everything they say. (for more information on the topic, see tina getting me not to vote allan)
spies8chance (5:59:12 PM): i haven't ignored it. i think it's possible he had help (i.e. spy help) to build it.
spies8chance (5:59:19 PM): because really?
spies8chance (5:59:29 PM): broderick goes, everyone basically jumps on cinnamyn, and /then/ rondak posts his case?
spies8chance (5:59:36 PM): which the thread was up for /days/ ago?
spies8kiara (5:59:40 PM): lol thats not exactly what i ment
spies8kiara (6:02:48 PM): im not saying pretend it wasnt written, im saying automatically dismiss it as being false. which is why id say his posting it was suspect where as you call it pure bull shit. for me the bigger thing is the timing. people were starting to push the 'policy lynch' as lawrence likes to call it, so he regurgitates something hes read elsewhere and calls it his own. but that still could just be a townie realizing 'oh shit i need to do something or ill die'. and i dont like using the logic 'hes too dumb to come up with it himself'. thats been used by a lot of people against a lot of people, mostly with fail results
spies8kiara (6:02:50 PM): brb laundry
spies8kiara (6:13:35 PM): back
spies8chance (6:14:07 PM): wb.
spies8chance (6:14:27 PM): i wasn't saying he was too dumb to come up with it himself, i was saying it doesn't sound like him and i wouldn't be surprised if he got input from the other spies.
spies8kiara (6:14:59 PM): how doesnt it sound like him?
spies8chance (6:15:07 PM): given the way he types?
spies8chance (6:15:13 PM): it just doesn;t.
spies8kiara (6:16:23 PM): typing on the forum and typing on aim are different
spies8chance (6:16:52 PM): it wasn't just his punctuation or capitalization, it was the way he said certain things. i couldn't point them out to you but to me it doesn't sound like just rondak.
spies8chance (6:17:11 PM): in any case, the veracity of his case isn't the point here, it's the timing and the fact that it's on cinnamyn.
spies8kiara (6:18:35 PM): i guess with the brody imprisonment it could be his way of taking more credit than he really deserves hoping to extend his shelf life.
spies8kiara (6:18:50 PM): honestly, bussing makes the most sense to me
spies8chance (6:19:03 PM): at this stage, when the spies control a third of the vote? i don't think so.
spies8kiara (6:19:50 PM): but cinn was a prime target. maybe if it was closer to half id agree. but if a spy is likely going to be lynched, the best bet for the rest is to have someone else look good for it
spies8chance (6:20:23 PM): that's true, but she wasn't a 'prime target' until broderick's case. and broderick has been notably wrong pretty much all game long.
spies8kiara (6:22:48 PM): lmao, mostly true. she may not have been prime until after brodys post, but i think there was enough suspicion among everyone else that only a small spark was really needed to ignite it. and brody did post well before imprisonment, yes? there was a lot of time for that wagon to gain speed
spies8chance (6:23:32 PM): he did, and cinn refuted it well, i thought.
spies8chance (6:24:01 PM): and i don't think cinnamyn was a big suspect before.
spies8kiara (6:24:11 PM): not big, but suspect
spies8chance (6:24:25 PM): which is precisely why rondak pushing her so hard is suspicious.
spies8chance (6:24:32 PM): considering he has /never/ been suspicious of her.
spies8kiara (6:24:56 PM): is hard to right word? i really dont find his case to be push hard? did he push it in the chat that im not aware of?
spies8chance (6:25:27 PM): for rondak, /any/ push is hard considering he /doesn't/ push.
spies8chance (6:25:33 PM): he has yet to actually push for anyone to be lynched.
spies8chance (6:25:36 PM): that i know of, at least.
spies8kiara (6:27:34 PM): if it was anyone other than cinn he was targeting id probably feel better about lynching him before her. but her record is just a wagony, and shes been doing it most the game, whereas brondak had only been doing it since he replaced.
spies8chance (6:28:50 PM): i wouldn't say that her record is as wagony. i can recall several times she wasn't on the exile.
spies8kiara (6:29:13 PM): 2. margot first round, which doesnt count. and me, which would have been right if i hadnt claimed
spies8chance (6:30:07 PM): why doesn't margot count?
spies8chance (6:30:18 PM): and wasn't she on magalie one of the times she wasn't exiled?
spies8kiara (6:31:59 PM): i dont count round 1 because being the first round a vote on just about anyone can be justified because theres so little to go on. also, its one of the few rounds where she actually posted who she was voting, and actually did it early (not allowing her to wagon). as for magalie, yes, she was. in fact the round she was nominated and themba went, the only people left alive who nomed her are you and cinn
spies8kiara (6:33:13 PM): and her noming a spy gives her no pointes because i dont think anyone expected your guys' nom to be exiled over our nom. so if there ever was a safe spy on spy vote, thats it
spies8chance (6:33:25 PM): i agree with that, actually.
spies8kiara (6:33:41 PM): so if it did happen, process of elimination says its her
spies8chance (6:33:44 PM): however, i still believe rondak to be the bigger bandwagoner, first of all.
spies8kiara (6:34:02 PM): i could see merit in that arguement, yet
spies8kiara (6:37:32 PM): also, afaik, rondak was the last person on the alexei exile. which doesnt score him any points
spies8chance (6:38:21 PM): mm.
spies8kiara (6:40:09 PM): question: do you know who rondak voted ep 5? the exile thread doesnt have him recieving a penality nom for not voting, and one round lawrence didnt vote put was away and it said so in the exile post
spies8chance (6:40:52 PM): is who he voted not in the vote log?
spies8kiara (6:41:55 PM): he never posted
spies8kiara (6:42:03 PM): and sam never said
spies8chance (6:42:14 PM): we should ask.
spies8kiara (6:42:32 PM): and im 95% sure that round claude said he didnt use his power
spies8kiara (6:49:30 PM): theres some stuff i got to take care of before dark, ill be back in a bit
spies8chance (6:49:42 PM): okay.
spies8kiara (8:33:36 PM): back :-D
spies8chance (8:34:05 PM): hey kiara.