Episode 6 - Conversations

[Kiara]

spies8stephanie (7:36:29 PM): hi kiara
spies8kiara (7:36:37 PM): hey steph
spies8stephanie (7:36:47 PM): did i see that you are voting allan?
spies8stephanie (7:36:54 PM): or just suspicious of allan?
spies8kiara (7:37:43 PM): they later. last round i had initally voted allan until my mind was changed
spies8stephanie (7:38:43 PM): what changed your mind? you voted rondak?
spies8kiara (7:39:19 PM): tina persuaded me not to vote allan. and i ended up voting rondak, yes.
spies8stephanie (7:40:01 PM): and did tina say why? cause looking at allan's comments, they certainly seem inconsistent
spies8kiara (7:41:08 PM): she did say why, though it wasnt necessiarly because she though he was a cit
spies8stephanie (8:02:01 PM): so who are you voting for this round, do you know yet?
spies8kiara (8:02:57 PM): i honestly dont know. the break + being away has sort of taken me out of game mode. im going to spend a lot of time tonight and tomorrow going over old posts and stuff
spies8stephanie (8:05:59 PM): well good luck! i'll bbl

[Kiara]

spies8jenny (8:14:16 PM): Hi Kitty!
spies8kiara (8:14:29 PM): hey jenny
spies8jenny (8:14:39 PM): How are you?
spies8jenny (8:14:47 PM):
spies8kiara (8:15:08 PM): good, tired though, you?
spies8jenny (8:16:23 PM): Doing alright. Just getting on when I can right now.
spies8jenny (8:39:18 PM): So what are your thoughts on things?
spies8kiara (8:40:31 PM): honestly i dont really have any right now lol. with the break and then me being away the past few days ive sort of fallen out of game mode. with magalie exiled, tina imprisoned, rodnak replaced, and cory slipping off my list i feel like im back at square one.

[Kiara]

spies8cinnamyn (8:21:17 PM): aye kiara grl whassup
spies8kiara (8:21:50 PM): hey cinnamyn! not much, you?
spies8cinnamyn (8:22:22 PM): well my head hurts lyke a bitch, ackshully
spies8kiara (8:22:32 PM): that sucks. sick?
spies8cinnamyn (8:22:37 PM): i think may b
spies8cinnamyn (8:22:42 PM): my fat azz dont do heat real well
spies8kiara (8:22:56 PM): lol, well im sorry to hear that
spies8cinnamyn (8:23:05 PM): r u a spy.?
spies8kiara (8:23:34 PM): nope :-)
spies8kiara (8:23:38 PM): are you?
spies8cinnamyn (8:23:55 PM): no
spies8cinnamyn (8:24:00 PM): if u aint a spy y'd u vote allan
spies8kiara (8:24:22 PM): cuz hes suspicious? lol
spies8cinnamyn (8:25:06 PM): but how can sum1 wit' a copycat role b a spy
spies8kiara (8:25:17 PM): why not?
spies8cinnamyn (8:25:31 PM): wut use wud a spy have 4 doctor protects.?
spies8kiara (8:26:27 PM): it lets him know of the roles existance. didnt sam say the person saved doesnt know they were saved?
spies8cinnamyn (8:26:54 PM): i think so, but sam already dun told us dey wuz a docter
spies8kiara (8:27:59 PM): yeah, but they dont know if the doctor is dead or not. so if the doctor desides to save allan one round in hopes that next round 2 people will be saved then they know the doctor is still alive
spies8cinnamyn (8:28:25 PM): do u still think he iz a spy even tho u didnt vote him.?
spies8kiara (8:29:36 PM): i was persuaded not to vote him, and considering that he wasnt getting nominated with my one vote anyway i agreed. yes, i do. and i have a very important question to ask him the next time i see him
spies8cinnamyn (8:29:58 PM): r u gonna make a case on him
spies8cinnamyn (8:30:09 PM): cuz u da onlee persun dat suspectz him, i think
spies8kiara (8:30:53 PM): he came up in the chat, and other people seem iffy about him. depending on how he answers my question will determine if it warrents a cade
spies8kiara (8:30:55 PM): case
spies8cinnamyn (8:32:09 PM): do u still suspect rondak
spies8kiara (8:34:00 PM): thats harder to say. most of my suspicion on him was regarding how he did what he did as opposed to what he did. nothing clearly anti-town, but his behaviors was off. now that hes been replaced, it depends on how his replacement acts
spies8cinnamyn (8:34:23 PM): so who r ur suspects now den, if ur waitin' 4 allan n' rondak both
spies8kiara (8:35:18 PM): with tina gone and cory slipping off my radar its hard to say. i was gone the past 4 days so im kind of out of game mode. i need to go back and reread stuff and get my head around things
spies8cinnamyn (8:35:52 PM): how do u feel about zed
spies8kiara (8:36:55 PM): zed has never really been on my radar. i know there was a big mess over him early on but that seems to have passed
spies8cinnamyn (8:37:12 PM): he voted magalie late and didnt post a reazin
spies8cinnamyn (8:37:22 PM): seemz lyke a last minute vote 2 gain favor 2 me
spies8kiara (8:37:32 PM): that could be the case
spies8kiara (8:37:48 PM): it was a pretty safe wagon
spies8cinnamyn (8:38:10 PM): i thot it wuz clear frum talkin' wit cory dat magalie wud b da 1 2 go
spies8kiara (8:38:23 PM): wait
spies8kiara (8:38:25 PM): im sorry
spies8kiara (8:39:11 PM): i thought you were talking about the round where we were still split. which makes no sense because he wasnt on her side. duh. sorry, tired
spies8cinnamyn (8:39:33 PM): nah jus' last round
spies8cinnamyn (8:40:41 PM): y did cory slip off ur radar
spies8kiara (8:41:31 PM): because after i got kind of bitchy with him in the forums i had a chance to actally talk to him about things, and i got a storng cit vibe. even if he does seem to think im a spy
spies8cinnamyn (8:42:29 PM): y did u suspect him in da furst place.?
spies8kiara (8:44:21 PM): when i posted my theoiry on the covered up exile votes, he went 'omg insider info!!!' which made me think 1) i hit the nail on the head and struck a nerve with him or 2) hes trying to dismiss my ideas, and i find censorship to be a horrible thing in a game like this
spies8cinnamyn (8:45:05 PM): i dont even get wut insider info meanz
spies8kiara (8:46:03 PM): he said i was making too many assumptions, and the only way i could claim to think that was true was if i had some knoweldge that othes didnt, specifically that i was a spy and knew exactly what happened.
spies8cinnamyn (8:46:34 PM): o
spies8cinnamyn (8:46:42 PM): do u suspect claude.?
spies8kiara (8:47:48 PM): a couple rounds ago i did. then he started to fall down my list. now hes climbing back up. not high, but high enough to catch my eye
spies8cinnamyn (8:48:04 PM): wut haz he dun lately.?
spies8kiara (8:48:33 PM): its not him directly. its a possible connection ive noticed. its something else im looking into
spies8cinnamyn (8:49:04 PM): wit' who.? magz.?
spies8kiara (8:49:32 PM): no. although i did lol at him 'there is no way shes a spy!' post
spies8cinnamyn (8:51:02 PM): he wuz sayin' dat 4 quite a few roundz
spies8cinnamyn (8:51:14 PM): but regardliss, hiz intent wuz 2 get ppl 2 not vote magalie, n' she wuz a spy
spies8cinnamyn (8:51:16 PM): so we cant ignore it
spies8kiara (8:51:29 PM): agreed
spies8cinnamyn (8:53:28 PM): wut about chance, how u feel bout him
spies8kiara (8:54:54 PM): ive never really gotten a strong scum vibe from him. the only person ive really seen ponting out things about him that could be held against him is claude, but hes tunneling chance so hard that he could be seeing things where they dont actually exists, so i have to consider the source.
spies8cinnamyn (8:58:53 PM): u shud talk 2 mary, she had a lot of shit on him but ended up voting magalie
spies8cinnamyn (8:58:55 PM): dont no y
spies8cinnamyn (8:59:02 PM): she gets away wit' a lot of shit
spies8kiara (8:59:18 PM): lol well her track record does look pretty good
spies8cinnamyn (8:59:46 PM): well she never posts in da burg, so i never no where she standz
spies8cinnamyn (8:59:56 PM): or posts reazinz 4 her votez, but nobody callz her out on it
spies8cinnamyn (8:59:57 PM): i dont get it
spies8kiara (9:01:03 PM): i get what your saying. but appanently what she did was strong enough for owen to give her her vote back, and then she votes out a spy. its hard to argue with results.
spies8cinnamyn (9:02:04 PM): i c wut ur sayin', but hoardin' info dont help us
spies8kiara (9:02:24 PM): true
spies8cinnamyn (9:18:13 PM): y did u get swayed by tina if u suspected her
spies8kiara (9:22:00 PM): because allan wasnt getting nominated anyway, and she made a very persusive arguement
spies8cinnamyn (9:23:12 PM): y wud u believe an argument frum sum1 u thot wuz a spy
spies8kiara (9:24:37 PM): because it was a very strong arguement
spies8kiara (9:24:47 PM): could she have been lying?
spies8kiara (9:24:49 PM): sure!
spies8kiara (9:24:56 PM): but if she wasnt, i wasnt willing to risk it
spies8kiara (9:25:44 PM): its part of what i need to talk to allan about, because he kind of confirmed what she was saying
spies8cinnamyn (9:27:19 PM): wut did she say.?
spies8kiara (9:28:47 PM): since we now know she was a citizen and that what she told me was true (or at least she believed it to be true) i dont want to say until i get all the facts. because if i speak too soon it could end up blowing up in our face, and i dont want to be responible for the citizens downfall
spies8cinnamyn (9:30:06 PM): y did u suspect her 2 begin' wit.?
spies8kiara (9:31:25 PM): it started with her starting the alexei push and then chaning he vote at the last minute. more recently, i though it very odd that when owen was able to give someone their vote back she told him not to give it to her, and then when sam announces a challenge for another person to get theirs back she busts ass
spies8cinnamyn (9:32:18 PM): so she told u sumthin' bout allan dat made u switch..n' now shez ded.?
spies8kiara (9:33:06 PM): hmm, you know, i never though of it that way. your right, that doesnt look all that good
spies8cinnamyn (9:33:50 PM): it seemz lyke a easy way 4 u 2 now gain allanz trust now dat shez gone
spies8kiara (9:35:30 PM): true, but wifom. tina said publically that she swayed my vote (otherwise how do you know?), so any spy could have come up with this plan to implicate someone a few people aready seem to suspect
spies8cinnamyn (9:36:19 PM): o, i didnt no she posted it, broderick jus' told me
spies8kiara (9:36:34 PM): she said it in the group chat, i believe
spies8cinnamyn (9:37:26 PM): i still dont get y u were swayed by sum1 u thot wuz a spy 2 not vote 4 sum1 u also thot wuz a spy
spies8kiara (9:38:51 PM): if i were to say to you what she said to me, it would make more sense. and if she was still around and i was still suspicous of her i probably would. but now that i know that theres truth to what she said, i believe it would be anti-town of me to make it public. so for now im not telling anyone
spies8cinnamyn (9:40:01 PM): u didnt go public wit' it rite away.?
spies8kiara (9:41:11 PM): the only person i said anything to was allan, and that was when he said please take your vote off of me and i said someone had already yelled at me about it (i didnt even say tinas name)
spies8cinnamyn (9:43:09 PM): ok if itz sumthin' dat groundbreakin' i wont prod n e more
spies8kiara (9:44:52 PM): lol its ok, i was kind of expecting someone to ask me questions about it eventually. your not the first, but you definately were the most persistant (and logical)

[Kiara]

spies8kiara (5:12:55 PM): whats up steph
spies8stephanie (5:13:46 PM): more interested in whats up with you
spies8kiara (5:14:01 PM): trying to figure out how screwed i am
spies8kiara (5:16:44 PM): can i ask who your voting for?
spies8stephanie went away at 5:18:49 PM
spies8stephanie returned at 5:24:09 PM
spies8stephanie (5:24:53 PM): sry kiara
spies8stephanie (5:24:55 PM): phone
spies8stephanie (5:24:59 PM): i'm voting chance
spies8stephanie (5:25:34 PM): but i don't think he has enough votes to go
spies8kiara (5:25:35 PM): as thrilled as i am that isnt me, id still like to ask why if you dont mind
spies8stephanie (5:25:45 PM): just me and claude as far as i know
spies8stephanie (5:25:52 PM): i think he's a spy
spies8stephanie (5:25:56 PM):
spies8kiara (5:26:02 PM): lol
spies8kiara (5:26:24 PM): not exactly what i was asking, but fair answer
spies8stephanie (5:27:04 PM): i agreed with most of the original democrat case for the republicans on him
spies8stephanie (5:27:26 PM): and everything i've seen since, like his voting for mags with "no read"
spies8stephanie (5:27:45 PM): like mags saying that chance was not a spy just whiny
spies8stephanie (5:27:57 PM): just makes me think him spy
spies8kiara (5:28:06 PM): ok, i remember reading some of that in the threads against him
spies8stephanie (6:16:48 PM): kiara?
spies8kiara (6:16:56 PM): ya?
spies8stephanie (6:17:04 PM): did you get same redo of activitiy 5 that i did?
spies8kiara (6:17:11 PM): 4 questions?
spies8stephanie (6:17:41 PM): yeah, respond in your own thread and two others and write a critique of yourself?
spies8kiara (6:17:47 PM): yeah
spies8stephanie (6:18:13 PM): i started in my own thread, but just got stuck and can't seem to continue
spies8stephanie (6:18:42 PM): i thought i had made the decision to just take the penalty vote
spies8stephanie (6:18:47 PM): and then it just continues
spies8kiara (6:19:24 PM): lol, i would have done it but i was just busy. as for the followup im not doing it until after exile. i dont have time to waste if i might not even be around, lol
spies8stephanie (6:20:09 PM): oh ok, i'll look forward to seeing your comments
spies8stephanie (6:20:49 PM): it's odd that i find it hard to critique others, but i don't have any problem calling dane a useless ass
spies8kiara (6:23:53 PM): lmao
spies8kiara (6:31:45 PM): diiner break, back soon
spies8kiara (7:04:28 PM): back
spies8stephanie (7:10:58 PM): zeke just appeared
spies8kiara (7:11:28 PM): i see
spies8stephanie (7:11:31 PM): we're trying to figure out wtf is going on with him

[Kiara]

spies8kiara (9:55:55 PM): omg there you are!!!
spies8owen (9:56:15 PM): Hey Kiara.
spies8owen (9:56:20 PM): 4 minutes kljfadadsfa
spies8kiara (9:56:30 PM): has cory been filling you in?
spies8owen (9:56:35 PM): Yes.
spies8kiara (9:56:46 PM): good
spies8kiara (9:56:57 PM): i was really hoping you would have been on earlier
spies8kiara (9:57:04 PM): damn last minute
spies8owen (9:57:42 PM): Honestly, was feeling most strongly about you being a spy from the group.
spies8owen (9:57:46 PM): I'm changing my vote to Zedekiah.
spies8owen (9:57:48 PM): Based on this.
spies8kiara (9:57:54 PM): just do me a favor. if i am exiled, keep an eye on cinn. i think with tina going it was a great set up for me and my vote change. and she was pushing the strongest
spies8kiara (9:57:59 PM): oh thank you
spies8kiara (9:58:43 PM): i swear, im not a spy. i realize everyone is going to say that, but take it for what it is lol
spies8kiara (10:01:14 PM): like i said to cory i get to guess on the alignment of the exiled player, so if you have an opinion as to what i should guess im all ears
spies8owen (10:01:52 PM): I'm so unsure about Zed.
spies8owen (10:01:58 PM): He had a convo with Isaac that seemed legitimate.
spies8kiara (10:02:04 PM): cory is saying citizen
spies8owen (10:02:08 PM): Gut would lean cit, sadly.

[Kiara]

spies8kiara (4:47:39 PM): hey mary
spies8mary (4:48:07 PM): Hi.
spies8kiara (4:48:12 PM): how are you?
spies8mary (4:48:19 PM): Good. I was just asking about you in group chat.
spies8mary (4:48:26 PM): I liked your attack on Jenny.
spies8mary (4:48:54 PM): And even though we haven't spoken much, I don't feel like voting you tonight.
spies8kiara (4:49:31 PM): unfortunately it seems like a number of others do
spies8mary (4:49:35 PM): Who?
spies8kiara (4:50:03 PM): from the chats i saw cory is, plus someone else i cant remember off the top of my head. and cinnamyn is telling me she is
spies8kiara (5:02:17 PM): it bothers me because i havent seen any real case
spies8kiara (5:04:45 PM): and what REALLY bothers me is claude out of the blue says he suspects me but doesnt tell why when both gertrude or chance ask, just says hell get to it later. then he tunnels every word i say. but ive yet to see him say anything ive done was scummy prior to him fosing me
spies8mary (5:07:37 PM): Who would you like to see exiled?
spies8mary (5:08:33 PM): Also, hasn't Claude suspected you for a while?
spies8kiara (5:09:26 PM): i dont remember him saying anything until after isaac was exiled. and then he tunneled the fuck out of me. so i guess it depends on what 'a while' is
spies8kiara (5:09:37 PM): lawrence, zed, chance. in that order
spies8kiara (5:11:09 PM): the closest to him saying anything to me about suspecting me prior to isaacs exile was me voting him for insincere reasons' being i though his role was scummy. but that he proves its scumminess by hijacking this exile. so yeah, fuck that noise
spies8mary (5:23:41 PM): He didn't hijack this exile at all.
spies8mary (5:23:56 PM): Who would you say did hijack it?
spies8kiara (5:24:09 PM): im sorry?
spies8mary (5:24:20 PM): Claude only restricted Owen, not the other 6-7 voters.
spies8kiara (5:25:04 PM): well, if you make the assumption that it wasnt his intent... i guess id have to say owen, then. hes the one who said he wanted option
spies8mary (5:25:54 PM): Did you notice people shifting their nominations?
spies8mary (5:25:58 PM): To make this happen?
spies8kiara (5:27:05 PM): most. i honestly dont think zed or i would have been nominated otherwise.
spies8kiara (5:29:05 PM): honestly im expecting a misexile because of all this mess. especially if its me, lol
spies8mary (5:29:36 PM): I had no idea you and Zed were anyone's top suspects before this.
spies8kiara (5:30:40 PM): well, were not, imo. seeing as no one seemed to have any strong reasons for the noms other than to give owen options.
spies8mary (5:31:54 PM): Who else nominated you?
spies8kiara (5:32:03 PM): jenny and allan
spies8mary (5:52:41 PM): That's not exactly an all-star pair.
spies8kiara (5:52:49 PM): hardly
spies8mary (5:53:06 PM): What do you think of Stephanie?
spies8kiara (5:54:56 PM): personally, i dont always find her thoughts to be that well thought out. but i dont get scummy vibes from it. it always seems like its with the best of intentions
spies8mary (6:03:36 PM): I hope this Senate thing is over after tonight.
spies8mary (6:03:50 PM): Who will your vote be on at the start of Episode 7?
spies8kiara (6:04:02 PM): jenny
spies8kiara (6:04:38 PM): unless she proves she has suspicions of anyone other than 'i want to see more of them'
spies8mary (6:05:11 PM): I would vote her in a heartbeat if she was up right now.
spies8kiara (6:06:34 PM): hopefully next round we dont have to worry about people being nomed. oh, and that im still here lol
spies8mary (6:06:45 PM): Do you know the vote count?
spies8mary (6:06:50 PM): You must be nervous.
spies8kiara (6:08:02 PM): cinn said shes voting me. steph says she is voting chance and thinks claude will be too. thats about all i know right now.
spies8kiara (6:31:41 PM): diiner break, back soon
spies8mary (6:34:39 PM): Ok.
spies8kiara (7:04:23 PM): back
spies8mary (7:04:30 PM): Hi.
spies8kiara (7:25:21 PM): hey, do you know if cory or owen said they would or would not be on today?
spies8mary (7:25:36 PM): No, I don't.
spies8kiara (7:25:57 PM): ok, thanks
spies8mary (7:26:06 PM): Did I see you say at one point that you think all four candidates are Citizens?
spies8kiara (7:27:40 PM): lawrence, no. i was talking specifically about the 3 options owen had. but yes. right now i think chance and zed are citizens, and i know i am
spies8mary (7:28:09 PM): Ok.
spies8mary (7:28:19 PM): What's your opinion of Lawrence?
spies8kiara (7:29:50 PM): i havent seen much of him, and know little so its hard to say. i do find it suspicious, however, that he would have asked sam to replace him, but the rondak gets replaced. could be a double-bluff. claim your looking to be replaced so people dont suspect you, offer nothing to the group because your 'busy', and submit just enough to keep from being expelled
spies8kiara (7:30:20 PM): i mean, not voting now isnt as bad as it was round 1 when you got like 4 penalty votes
spies8mary (7:30:36 PM): Is there evidence thqat Lawrence is lurking?
spies8mary (7:31:04 PM): "submit just enough to keep from being expelled"
spies8kiara (7:32:45 PM): no, there isnt. just a theory. and what i mean is if lawrence had not posted convos, not voted, and not did the activity and were werent in senate forum, he have gotten like 10 penality votes, almost guarenteeing an exile. her it isnt a worry. he doesnt have to worry about self voting himself out or being forcably removed from the game by sam
spies8mary (7:33:37 PM): Yes but the question is who is a more likely Spy. Apparently your thought is Lawrence.
spies8mary (7:33:53 PM): I am on the fence but leaning that way.
spies8mary (7:34:06 PM): Zed is not impressing me right now.
spies8kiara (7:34:06 PM): out of the three, if i had to vote, it would be lawrence.
spies8mary (7:34:26 PM): spies8zedekiah: I s'pose the ones I have t' look into more would be cory, chance an' jenny. I wouldn't say I'm too sure right now though, I'm a bit off as ye can tell.
spies8kiara (7:34:28 PM): the more zed has been grilled the weaker he looks. but still, im not convinced hes a spy
spies8mary (7:34:54 PM): What is your evidence that he's a Citizen?
spies8kiara (7:36:22 PM): i havent seen anything to the contrary in the past few rounds. he was a big suspect early on, but that was before my time so i dont know much about it. like someone said recently, everyone starts on a neutral plain until something pushes them in one direction. i havent seen anything push him yet
spies8kiara (9:00:39 PM): so, mind if i ask if youve decided who to vote for?
spies8mary (9:01:02 PM): I'm not telling anyone yet, really.
spies8mary (9:01:26 PM): Although I've told you it won't be for you.
spies8kiara (9:01:54 PM): ok then

[Kiara]

spies8lawrence (9:43:49 PM): Hello Kiara
spies8kiara (9:43:58 PM): hi new larry
spies8lawrence (9:44:54 PM): How are you tonight?
spies8kiara (9:45:12 PM): scrambling, lol
spies8lawrence (9:47:40 PM): I am sorry
spies8lawrence (9:47:43 PM): I will not annoy you

[Kiara]

spies8jenny (6:06:20 PM): Hi there!

What's new?
spies8kiara (6:07:01 PM): waiting for exile :-( you?
spies8jenny (6:07:50 PM): Same thing really. Be nice if we had more people around.
spies8kiara (6:08:10 PM): i need allan on
spies8jenny (6:08:14 PM): He is on.
spies8kiara (6:08:16 PM): oh wait!
spies8kiara (6:08:18 PM): he is!
spies8jenny (6:08:24 PM):
spies8kiara (6:08:26 PM): excuse me, i have something i need to handle
spies8jenny (6:08:38 PM): Silly
spies8jenny (6:25:11 PM): How's the talk going?
spies8kiara (6:25:50 PM): slowly, there are some delicate subjects in volved
spies8jenny (6:26:08 PM): Such as?
spies8kiara (6:29:10 PM): lol, such as things that if we dont trust each other enough to tackle directly i doubt i would be willing to tell you <3
spies8jenny (6:31:21 PM): Doesn't hurt to ask anyways.
spies8kiara (6:31:47 PM): diiner break, back soon
spies8jenny (6:32:21 PM): Anyways, you said earlier you didn't really think the other choices Owen got stuck with spies. Mind going into that at all?
spies8kiara (7:04:38 PM): back
spies8jenny (7:04:50 PM): Welcome back!
spies8kiara (7:05:34 PM): right now i just dont get scum reads from chance or zed. and lawrence is a nonentity.
spies8jenny (7:08:05 PM): Could you go into them a bit? I agree with you on some of it, but I want to hear what your thoughts are on them.
spies8kiara (7:11:20 PM): most of what ive seen agaisnt chance is from claude. but hes been tunneling him so hard its difficult to take it all seriously. most of it is confermation bias. hes so convinced that chance is a spy that hes twisting some of the facts to support his own conclusion. i dont have anything in zeds favor, its mostly a neutral read. i just have yet to see anything that makes me suspect him, so i wouldnt want to see him go right now if it could be avoided
spies8jenny (7:12:24 PM): And Lawry is Lawry.
spies8jenny (7:13:59 PM): As for Lucky, that's pretty much what I've been seeing with him as well. I'd disagree about Zeddy being neutral but if I remember right you came into the game after the biggest stuff with him happened, so fair enough.
spies8kiara (7:15:20 PM): true
spies8kiara (7:15:29 PM): and since that there hasnt been much from him
spies8jenny (7:16:24 PM): I didn't watch your side much during episode 3 when you came in, but it seemed to me like he went into hiding a bit after the fire he'd been getting into the first couple episodes.
spies8kiara (7:17:37 PM): iduno if i would have called it hiding. but seeing as i dont know exactly how he was at the beginning its difficlt to make a conparison
spies8jenny (9:25:49 PM): You see we got a new Lawry?
spies8kiara (9:26:02 PM): yeah
spies8jenny (9:26:22 PM): Certainly about time.
spies8kiara (9:26:34 PM): lol you can say that again
spies8jenny (9:27:03 PM): I get the feeling that Lawry is the last replacement though, if we get any more people vanishing, I think they're just going to get booted.
spies8kiara (9:27:43 PM): hopefully it doesnt come to that
spies8jenny (9:28:09 PM): That'd be all sorts of pathetic if we had to go through 4 replacements, and then get people kicked for inactivity.
spies8kiara (9:28:24 PM): lol yeah
spies8jenny (9:51:07 PM): Well 9 minutes left. If there's any sort of roleclaims you need to do, this is probably as good a time as any with how the votes are looking.

[Kiara]

spies8kiara (4:37:16 PM): hey gertrude
spies8gertrude (4:37:24 PM): Hey there, Kiara.
spies8kiara (4:37:36 PM): how you doing?
spies8gertrude (4:38:29 PM): Not too bad, not too bad.
spies8gertrude (4:38:43 PM): You?
spies8kiara (4:39:02 PM): nervous, but other than that ok i guess
spies8kiara (4:46:52 PM): crash :-(
spies8kiara (4:48:03 PM): so have you had a chance to talk with the other senators about the vote?
spies8gertrude (4:52:42 PM): Mmm.
spies8gertrude (4:52:45 PM): A bit.
spies8gertrude (4:52:54 PM): I don't think it's looking good for you.
spies8kiara (4:58:03 PM): it really bothers me, in all honesty.
spies8kiara (4:58:33 PM): claudes tunnelvision is going to get me mislynched
spies8gertrude (5:02:26 PM): Does Broderick know whatever it was you were going to announce?
spies8gertrude (5:02:37 PM): Or was he just being cautionary?
spies8kiara (5:03:23 PM): i think hes just being cautionary
spies8gertrude (5:03:32 PM): Okay.
spies8kiara (5:05:50 PM): what REALLY bothers me is claude out of the blue says he suspects me but doesnt tell why when both gertrude or chance ask, just says hell get to it later. then he tunnels every word i say. but ive yet to see him say anything ive done was scummy prior to him fosing me. and hes the reason my ass is on the line
spies8kiara (5:06:10 PM): lol copied that from what i just said to mary, thats why your listed by name lol
spies8gertrude (5:06:35 PM): I actually don't remember that..
spies8kiara (5:06:46 PM): that night chat, where i had my 'scum slip'
spies8kiara (5:06:58 PM): he said 'ill hexplain it tomorrow'
spies8kiara (5:07:03 PM): and the we debated what tomorrow ment
spies8gertrude (5:07:11 PM): Ohh.
spies8gertrude (5:07:15 PM): I vaguely remember.
spies8gertrude (5:07:26 PM): What is it that you said was the slip?
spies8kiara (5:07:57 PM): it was about everyone claiming to jenny, i cant remember exactly what i said. let me doublecheck
spies8kiara (5:08:44 PM):
[04:45] spies8kiara: i wish everyone instructed me instictively enough to tell me all their roles. must be nice :-D
spies8gertrude (5:08:52 PM): Oh, ohhh.
spies8gertrude (5:08:54 PM): Right.
spies8gertrude went away at 5:36:48 PM
spies8gertrude returned at 8:40:56 PM
spies8gertrude (9:48:34 PM): I, for the record.
spies8gertrude (9:48:52 PM): Am trying to keep you from being Exiled.
spies8gertrude (9:48:58 PM): This is frustrating.
spies8kiara (9:49:05 PM): lol me too, i appreciate it
spies8kiara (9:52:45 PM): are you still going to vote me over chance if it comes to that?
spies8gertrude (9:52:52 PM): No.
spies8gertrude (9:52:58 PM): Or, yes.
spies8gertrude (9:53:03 PM): But it won't.
spies8gertrude (9:53:31 PM): I think Cory and Owen vote together. So, if Cory switches to Zedekiah, so will Owen
spies8kiara (9:53:48 PM): but owen isnt on
spies8gertrude (9:55:06 PM): Yes he is.
spies8kiara (9:55:16 PM): o.O
spies8kiara (9:55:25 PM): ive been wanting to talk to him all damn day!!!

[Kiara]

spies8kiara (8:15:03 PM): hey cory
spies8cory (8:15:24 PM): Hi
spies8kiara (8:15:30 PM): whats up?
spies8cory (8:15:32 PM): Not much
spies8cory (8:15:38 PM): And yeah my vote is on you, currently
spies8kiara (8:15:48 PM): lol, i thought so
spies8cory (8:15:56 PM): If you can think of something to persuade me otherwise, I am all ears, though
spies8kiara (8:16:35 PM): well, i do have a more general question first. something to consider after this round whether im here or not.
spies8kiara (8:17:39 PM): you made a point about me not being able to remember any conversations with isaac and how that was suspicous, which claude seemed to eat up. yes?
spies8cory (8:19:28 PM): Right
spies8cory (8:19:33 PM): I did find it suspect.
spies8kiara (8:20:10 PM): yet claude suspect chance in part for the exact opposite reason, having too close a relationship with issac, yes?
spies8cory (8:20:43 PM): Well, I think his point against Chance was that Isaac didn't attack Chance as hard as he attacked Claude.
spies8kiara (8:21:51 PM): isnt that a bit omgusy? and sort of contradicory on me? finding us scummy for the exact opposite thing?
spies8kiara (8:22:24 PM): i just think its very bizarre, and worth noting
spies8cory (8:23:13 PM): Well
spies8cory (8:23:33 PM): I don't see it as being opposite exactly
spies8kiara (8:24:02 PM): ok, im sorry. not exact. but the are on opposite ends of the spectrum
spies8cory (8:24:12 PM): The point of the attack is that you couldn't find any chats to share with me that you had with Isaac. You could have had Spy chats and just not wanted to show(summarize) them to me because they were incriminating
spies8cory (8:24:24 PM): While the Chance attack is that Isaac didn't attack Chance as harshly
spies8cory (8:24:28 PM): How do you view it instead?
spies8kiara (8:26:19 PM): claude is grossly guilty of confermation bias. he has decided that both chance and i are spies, so anything we do is evidence toward that fact to him. i mean im willing to be if you asked chance what he and isaac talked about, hed have a better answer than i did. but claude would still be suspicious of him.
spies8cory (8:27:04 PM): Yep, he would.
spies8cory (8:27:28 PM): Claude is a difficult one to have view you in a good light once you're on his bad side
spies8cory (8:27:37 PM): I guess I'm lucky I managed to pull that one off. He hated me for a few days
spies8kiara (8:28:31 PM): yet its that reason that we have the nominations we have, and we all allowed it to happen. were sheeping someone who is blinded by him own anger. i mean i only got nomed by allan and jen, and neither gave a reason other than to give owen options. and now im probably getting mislynched
spies8cory (8:28:47 PM): Who do you think the Spies are right now?
spies8kiara (8:30:09 PM): if i had to pick four, jenny, claude, rondak are all i can say i have any stong feelings toward. as for the fourth, could be anyone. maybe owen in a surprise shocker? lol
spies8cory (8:31:23 PM): Why Jenny & Rondak?
spies8kiara (8:31:36 PM): and for the record, it kills me that im getting cinn's vote because tina told me not to vote for allan. and im not telling her that because i dont want to screw a role over if it is out there. only reason im saying this to you know is apparently you and owen know.
spies8cory (8:31:55 PM): Yeah I do.
spies8cory (8:32:14 PM): That's her only reason?
spies8kiara (8:32:22 PM): thats the only reason she gave me
spies8cory (8:33:48 PM): brb, keep on typing though
spies8kiara (8:34:07 PM): jenny i wasnt as suspect of. i dismissed her knowing about allan and claiming, and knowing about nita and not. but her reason for noming me (not omgus!) bothered me when awohali asked her to explain it. and all her other suspects were equally as weak.
spies8kiara (8:34:59 PM): only rondak was playing dumb, and that always bothers me. makes me think hes hiding something. new rondak seems to have kept that trend going. i dont think sam would fill him replacement list with idiots.
spies8cory (8:58:00 PM): Hmm
spies8cory (8:58:06 PM): what was Jenny's reason?
spies8kiara (8:58:16 PM): for me?
spies8cory (8:58:32 PM): Yeah
spies8kiara (8:59:17 PM): she claimed to have a neutral read on me, but still voted for me over like 6 other people she suspected (all for lazy reasons) because she wanted to give owen an option. awohali can conferm that
spies8cory (9:02:09 PM): Have you talked to Rondak at all this episode?
spies8kiara (9:02:21 PM): only in the public chats
spies8cory (9:03:10 PM): What's your opinion on new Rondak and his vote for Chance?
spies8kiara (9:04:12 PM): sheeping, but the question is why? limited knowledge or because someone told him to?
spies8cory (9:05:03 PM): He doesn't even suspect Chance.
spies8cory (9:05:10 PM): He wants Chance exiled only for information
spies8kiara (9:05:31 PM): thats right, he did say that, didnt he
spies8cory (9:29:19 PM): Hmm?
spies8cory (9:29:23 PM): Said you were typing a second ago.
spies8kiara (9:29:26 PM): i am
spies8kiara (9:30:05 PM): im fighting my better judgement to not to this. but im out of time, i cant wait anymore, i have no choice. i have a role
spies8kiara (9:32:10 PM): it isnt overly powerful, but im not going to be another savannah and leave without saying anything
spies8kiara (9:32:34 PM): i can investigate dead players, see if they had roles or not
spies8cory (9:33:28 PM): Hmm
spies8cory (9:33:44 PM): Did you find any?
spies8kiara (9:34:05 PM): id rather it not be public knowedge, but your a senator who already knows much so even if your a spy your already in a good spot lol.
spies8kiara (9:34:35 PM): savannah, alexia, isaac had roles, gabriel, lilith, and magalie did not
spies8cory (9:34:50 PM): So Gabriel and Lilith were not the doctor?
spies8kiara (9:34:54 PM): nope
spies8cory (9:34:58 PM): You sure about that?
spies8kiara (9:35:03 PM): yes
spies8cory (9:35:07 PM): What is your role name
spies8kiara (9:35:13 PM): security checkpoint
spies8cory (9:35:21 PM): When did you investigate each of these players?
spies8cory (9:35:25 PM): Which episodes
spies8kiara (9:36:23 PM): savannah and alexia where round 3, gabriel was round 4, isaac was 5, lilith and magalie were 6. i get 1 each round, plus 1 more if i guess the alignment of the exiled player before sam announces it
spies8cory (9:37:41 PM): Did you hint at your role ever?
spies8kiara (9:38:43 PM): no. the closest would be that post i made about isaac being the one who covered up the votes. but i posted that before imprisonment because i didnt want it to be lost if i got imprisoned. sam doesnt give me the answer until after imprisonment. so at that point it was just a theory
spies8kiara (9:39:09 PM): btw, i was right. he also could pick one person each round and delay and role actions on them until next round
spies8cory (9:39:39 PM): Wait
spies8cory (9:39:45 PM): so you get to know details about roles?
spies8cory (9:39:51 PM): Not just that they had them?
spies8kiara (9:40:38 PM): a summary. savannah got to send private messages and alexei was told 30 minutes before exile how many votes were on him (but not who vote him)
spies8cory (9:42:57 PM): Fuck
spies8cory (9:43:02 PM): I wish you told me this last night. Lol
spies8cory (9:43:07 PM): I'm not sure what to do now
spies8kiara (9:43:21 PM): i wasnt expecting to get votes from gertrude or owen last night
spies8kiara (9:45:05 PM): i was hoping i could talk to owen and sort it out that way, but i giess not ment to be
spies8cory (9:45:46 PM): What's to make me think this isn't a Spy role?
spies8kiara (9:46:09 PM): honestly, there isnt anything
spies8kiara (9:46:51 PM): i have been saying the same thing about claude
spies8cory (9:47:35 PM): Did you make up the alignment guessing part of your role?
spies8kiara (9:48:00 PM): part of the reason i because less suspect of claude was alexia and isaac having roles. with the spy messenge and exile protector, thats a lot of spy roles if hes a spy too
spies8kiara (9:48:08 PM): no, i did not
spies8cory (9:49:56 PM): Why did you go after Allan then?
spies8kiara (9:51:00 PM): good point, i was overwhelmed by how scummy his vote reason seemed and how he used claudes against hambone.
spies8kiara (9:52:33 PM): i admit i havent been without my faults. but most people seem to think that most my actions are sound. if ive made too many mistakes and swered myself, then its no ones fault by my own
spies8cory (9:54:26 PM): Christ
spies8cory (9:54:30 PM): I have six minutes to decide what to do
spies8kiara (9:54:48 PM): lol, aint spies granf
spies8kiara (9:54:51 PM): grand
spies8cory (9:54:55 PM): Lol I hope you don't hate me too much if I don't move my vote
spies8cory (9:55:00 PM): I wish I'd had more time to think about tihs
spies8kiara (9:55:12 PM): i wont, but give me like a 2 minute heads up
spies8kiara (9:55:37 PM): if you can <3 lol
spies8kiara (9:58:04 PM): just do me a favor. if i am exiled, keep an eye on cinn. i think with tina going it was a great set up for me and my vote change. and she was pushing the strongest
spies8cory (9:59:12 PM): I switched
spies8cory (9:59:16 PM): We will probably have to out you though
spies8cory (9:59:26 PM): Owen changed as well
spies8kiara (9:59:43 PM): if it comes to it, then so be it. id rather force the spies to imprison me than be mislyched
spies8kiara (9:59:48 PM): thank you
spies8kiara (10:01:04 PM): like i said i get to guess on the alignment of the exiled player, so if you have an opinion as to what i should guess im all ears
spies8cory (10:01:31 PM): Guess cit on Zed
spies8cory (10:01:38 PM): Lol

[Kiara]

spies8kiara (6:27:50 PM): so, can i ask who your going to be voting for tonight?
spies8claude (6:27:58 PM): Chance.
spies8kiara (6:28:28 PM): steph said she is too. think youll finally be rid of him?
spies8claude (6:28:39 PM): I can only hope.
spies8claude (6:28:43 PM): but I probably won't be that lucky.
spies8claude (6:28:53 PM): My life is just doomed to trying to get chance lynched while no one listens.
spies8kiara (6:29:41 PM): do you know what cory is planning on doing? when i saw the chat last night he seemed set on me
spies8claude (6:29:58 PM): I'm not sure honestly.
spies8claude (6:30:19 PM): If I had to make a logical deduction, I suspect that you're most likely to get lynched today.
spies8kiara (6:30:57 PM): unfortunately i agree :-(
spies8kiara (6:31:53 PM): diiner break, back soon
spies8claude (6:50:38 PM): Might want to post any information you feel is relevant if you're a citizen and think you're getting lynched.
spies8kiara (7:04:47 PM): back
spies8claude (7:04:56 PM): How was dinner
spies8kiara (7:05:02 PM): lol, good, thanks

[Kiara]

spies8cinnamyn (4:24:08 PM): whassup kiara
spies8kiara (4:24:28 PM): hey cinn! not much, you?
spies8cinnamyn (4:24:50 PM): keepin' it fresh, u no
spies8cinnamyn (4:25:01 PM): preparin' 4 exile
spies8kiara (4:25:23 PM): me too i guess :-\ lol
spies8cinnamyn (4:26:07 PM): i aint gonna lie
spies8cinnamyn (4:26:13 PM): i think u r da best vote rite now
spies8cinnamyn (4:26:14 PM): 2 me
spies8kiara (4:26:25 PM): whys that?
spies8cinnamyn (4:27:38 PM): cuz of da tina vote switcheroo, lurkerishness n' votin' allen over top suspectz at da time
spies8cinnamyn (4:27:47 PM): n' i think datz more den other ppl i can vote 4
spies8kiara (4:30:39 PM): well, i really wanted to talk to allan about all of that before i made it public, but its starting to look like i have no choice
spies8cinnamyn (4:32:43 PM): no choice 4 what.?
spies8cinnamyn (4:32:49 PM): o wut tina told u
spies8kiara (4:32:52 PM): ya
spies8kiara (4:46:48 PM): crash :-(
spies8cinnamyn (4:48:37 PM): well kiara i do think my vote b on u
spies8kiara (4:49:16 PM): well, i really hope you chance your mind
spies8cinnamyn (4:49:57 PM): 2 b honest i probly wont lmbo
spies8cinnamyn (4:50:05 PM): im havin a cookout n' not comin' back til close 2 exile
spies8cinnamyn (4:50:13 PM): gotta get my grub on
spies8kiara (4:50:16 PM): when are you leaving?
spies8cinnamyn (4:50:30 PM): probz 15 minz or so
spies8kiara (4:51:53 PM): ok, im going to have no choice but to explain. could you join the chat real quick
spies8cinnamyn (4:52:19 PM): shure
spies8kiara (4:57:43 PM): sorry cinn, i guess im getting your vote. :-( have fun at the cookout. if i dont get to talk to you again, good luck in the game
spies8cinnamyn (4:57:57 PM): well if itz sumthin' gud den i hope u dont go
spies8cinnamyn (4:58:05 PM): if itz sumthin' made up den i hope u get exiled
spies8cinnamyn (4:58:05 PM): lmbo
spies8kiara (4:58:12 PM): lol
spies8cinnamyn (4:58:45 PM): if i gots time b4 exile i can luk at it n' c
spies8kiara (5:01:00 PM): well id appreciate it. later cinn.

[Kiara]

spies8broderick (4:55:39 PM): I dontknow what Tina told you about allan. But he was pissed that she did itwithout asking
spies8broderick (4:55:59 PM): Just wait. Owen knows and Cory knows
spies8kiara (4:55:59 PM): well if he was on all episode i could, so oh well
spies8broderick (4:58:27 PM): lol Sorry. I just don't think you are really indanger. both Cory and Owenknow about this, as far as I know
spies8broderick (4:58:47 PM): So if it would sway their opinion, I would think italready would of.
spies8kiara (4:58:47 PM): um, all the sentaors are telling me that i am in danger
spies8broderick (4:59:09 PM): however I don't knowexactly what Tina told you, and Id on't know whether ornot owen and cory know thespecifics
spies8broderick (4:59:16 PM): I just knowthatt hey know a bit
spies8broderick (5:02:12 PM): ultimately it is your call, so *shrug*
spies8broderick (5:02:25 PM): I just think you should wait like an hour. five+ til deadline
spies8kiara (5:03:42 PM): i mean, in the chat last night i saw that cory was still on me
spies8broderick (5:04:47 PM): It may not make a difference then.
spies8broderick (5:05:16 PM): I honestly don't know. All I canand will say is that I think you should wait an hour.Buti ts your lifeon the line and you know what IT is, so *shrug*
spies8broderick (5:05:17 PM): sorry
spies8broderick signed off at 5:06:44 PM
spies8broderick signed on at 7:36:58 PM
spies8broderick (7:45:57 PM): Did you talk to Allan?
spies8kiara (7:46:36 PM): yeah, though getting anything too meaningful from him is difficult.
spies8broderick (7:47:41 PM): lol
spies8kiara (7:48:27 PM): i wish owen or cory would come on, and gertrude would come back
spies8broderick (7:48:51 PM): They might be on later. *shrug*
spies8broderick (7:49:00 PM): Aren't really around that much ever. Cory & Owen
spies8kiara (7:49:42 PM): well, sam was trying to get everyone to make exile, so i hope they show
spies8broderick (7:51:04 PM): Hopefully more than like 5 minutes before hand. lol
spies8kiara (7:51:21 PM): oh ya
spies8broderick (7:58:05 PM): Do you think what ever it is will change their mind?
spies8kiara (7:58:20 PM): i can only hope
spies8broderick (7:58:36 PM): Apprently they both know already
spies8broderick (7:58:48 PM): Allan told Owen, and I believe Tina told Cory.
spies8kiara (7:59:19 PM): well, assuming thats what im referring to
spies8broderick (7:59:48 PM): lol true. Thought you did said it had to do with why you switched your vote off Allan
spies8kiara (8:00:17 PM): true

[Kiara]

spies8kiara (6:08:40 PM): hey allan
spies8allan (6:08:56 PM): hey kiara
spies8allan (6:08:59 PM): how r u
spies8kiara (6:09:03 PM): good you?
spies8allan (6:09:52 PM): umm i'm alright just hangin out
spies8allan (6:09:59 PM): prolly should shower
spies8kiara (6:10:22 PM): lol being clean is always nice
spies8allan (6:10:45 PM): haha so i've heard
spies8kiara (6:12:05 PM): so theres something i need to ask you about. becuase with my butt on the line i want to be able to defend myself, but i dont want to say anything that could screw us over in the long run
spies8allan (6:12:16 PM): sure thing
spies8kiara (6:14:12 PM): some people (cinnamyn to give an example) are worred about the fact that i switched my vote off of you because of tina when i said openly i didnt trust her. i assume you know why, because shortly thereafter you imed me to ask me to move my vote. now, i dont want to out anything, but i dont want to sit her and get mislynched either
spies8kiara (6:15:36 PM): tina didnt give me any specific details, enough to convince me it wasnt worth risking it. but if there is something big going on, i dont want to put you at larger risk by mentioning it
spies8kiara (6:16:52 PM): also, broderick earlier that owen and cory are aware of something on a large scale. so now i dont know what to do, or what to say, or two whom. so, i guess my question is this. im not trying to rolefish, but is there anything you can tell me about anything to figure out what the hell is going on, so i dont say the wrong thing by mistake?
spies8allan (6:17:51 PM): well, first of all
spies8allan (6:17:56 PM): where are the votes at?
spies8allan (6:17:58 PM): for the exile
spies8kiara (6:18:24 PM): cinn is voting me, and i saw in the chats from last night at least cory is. gertrude is telling me it isnt looking good for me.
spies8allan (6:19:28 PM): hmmm
spies8allan (6:19:37 PM): its a tough thing for me
spies8kiara (6:19:42 PM): i understand
spies8allan (6:20:01 PM): because if i do know anything, its because other people tell me things or give me powers, ya know
spies8allan (6:20:23 PM): so i'm always put in a tough postition, because revealing anything about me reveals something about someone else too
spies8allan (6:20:45 PM): what do u know?
spies8allan (6:20:52 PM): like, i don't really know what exactly tina said
spies8kiara (6:21:46 PM): tina told me the existance of a very powerful role (possibly the most second to the doctor), and bad things would happen if you recieved any nomination votes
spies8kiara (6:23:05 PM): thats all i really know, and at the time i didnt want to push any further. she said she would back me up on the switching of my vote. but she did so too soon, got imprisoned, and now my back is to the wall
spies8allan (6:24:19 PM): yea i know =/
spies8allan (6:24:24 PM): i'm in a tough spot
spies8allan (6:24:28 PM): cuz i really trusted tina
spies8allan (6:24:36 PM): and i needed her for just a lil bit longer
spies8allan (6:25:23 PM): mary prolly isn't voting for u
spies8kiara (6:27:03 PM): she told me that, but im still worried. with only 7 voters and 4 options, 3 could be enough to lynch
spies8kiara (6:27:24 PM): i wish own was on, id like to talk to him
spies8kiara (6:31:09 PM): claude is now saying he thinks im in trouble, too
spies8kiara (6:31:51 PM): diiner break, back soon
spies8allan (6:31:55 PM): k
spies8allan (6:42:23 PM): brb
spies8kiara (7:04:42 PM): back
spies8kiara (7:25:26 PM): hey, do you know if cory or owen said they would or would not be on today?
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spies8allan (8:01:49 PM): i dont know
spies8allan (8:01:52 PM): owen's been sick
spies8kiara (8:02:51 PM): well, hopefully he comes one soon