Episode 3 - Confessionals

[Owen]

Need a new Jenny ASAP



Why in the fuck she didn't claim before voting ended will be the biggest mystery of the game now that I know that Margot was a female.

[Owen]

- Lynch Savannah
- Bitch about Savannah's late claim
- Read up on Democrats
- Read up on past Savannah conversations & chats
- Get a new avatar
- Figure out of Stephanie is certified crazy or scummy

These things, especially the new avatar, are of the utmost importance.

[Owen]

spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=gop&action=display&thread=546&page=1

Best thread of the game so far. I love Themba.

[Owen]

I'm diggin' the new avatar. Hopefully nobody bitches about it a la Joshua in Spies 7.

Getting started on reading up on ex-Democrats now, even though I'd rather be doing nothing. Or sleeping.

[Owen]

Broderick: [votes: Chance, Jasmine]

- Talkative in group chats.
- Asks lots of questions.
- Good at picking up contradictions.
- Doesn't post votes for some odd reason.

Overall read for now: Most cit of ex-Democrats.

Episode 1:

spies8mary (12:08:42 AM): Broderick, who did you learn the most about today?
spies8broderick (12:23:52 AM): I probably learned for the most part that there seems to be a lot of misrepping and misquoting. A lot of he/she saids going around
spies8broderick (12:24:33 AM): I noticed Gertie seems to be a lot more lurkerish than I thought she would be

spies8broderick 6:39 pm
Not thinking someone a spy is not the same as thinking them a citizen. No reads are possible

spies8broderick (17:43:59): After I went through the majority of the posted chat segments last night, I wasn't liking Claude and his contradictions. Nor Chance and his fence riding.

For the record.

I am pointing a Finger of Suspicion [FoS] at :

Margot and Gertie - Both of your votes are rather bandwagonesque. Have either of you spoken to Camilla directly in an attempt to hear from her? I assume not as you both said something similar to 'I agree with the things said about her.'

Jasmine - Your vote looks bandwagonesque as well. Both Chance and Claude have been in the limelight. I noticed that when Awohali asked for your reasons for voting for Chance, you could not readily supply examples. You had to go looking for them. Given you plan on voting for him, why would you not have the evidence selected out somewhere?

Episode 2:

On why he stuck on Chance:

Im not sure. I was thinking I was going to vote for Chance last night. I just caught up on The Burg posts. Looks like others are suspicious of Chance. Jasmine's vote looks bandwagony.

Yes I did. That is the relevant quote.

Claude and Chance had been in the limelight for almost the entire episode. Cory quite a bit towards the beginning and Camilla towards the end. It appeared to me that quite a few people had decided their suspicions and vote based upon those in the limelight. Which appeared to me to be hopping upon the opinions of others. I decided to stick with my suspect rather than divert because that same day Chance tried to, in my opinion - shop his Claude suspicion to me. He came to me wanting to know if I was interested in hearing two additional things which he had against Claude.

Questions for Jasmine:

Is there a reason that you overreacted to my FoS' before Exile 1?
Do you find either Margot or Gertie suspicious because of their votes?
Why do you suspect Chance? Is he your only suspect?

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Isaac: [votes: Claude, Claude]

- Not overly talkative in chat, often needs to "read up." Not a scumtell, because I have to do that shit all the time.
- No posts in case against his biggest suspect (Claude)
- Says "wow" a lot, usually to things that aren't shocking. Scummy? I don't know. Annoying? Yep.

Overall read for now: Unsure.

Episode One:

spies8mary (11:41:05 PM): Isaac, who have you spoken to most so far?
spies8mary (11:42:18 PM): Isaac?
spies8isaac (11:42:53 PM): Wow, think it's pretty much a tie between Broderick, cin, and a few others this afternoon. I just seem to log on when they are around. Have yet to even talk once to Awohali. And lilith only talked to the day game started
spies8isaac (11:43:56 PM): Did awo play a mafia game with others last night though? I missed it I guess so I at least know he's around...lol

spies8isaac (11:46:35 PM): Haven't talked to Themba much at all either. Always coming or going when I log in and then there is the one who's gone till Saturday, so ya definitly need to hit chat up when a few others are here. Have no reading on them yet what so ever

Note to self: Themba? Uhh... Wrong group. If this is a spy slip, I will roffle in their e-face after this.

spies8isaac 6:12 pm
Thoughts are right now that people need to let people speak for themselves...lol. I was here earlier during that whole fiasco and it was truly exhaustin

spies8isaac 6:22 pm
Ok claude you may want to tone this down slightly before we're back in a chat session like the other day when you were trying to convince us about Cory. Your words should be chosen with a bit more effort because I don't see coaching and Cam still has to answer so give it time

spies8isaac 6:24 pm
Wow, you are actually a hypocrite you tell Chance not to answer for Camilla then jump in and ask Chance to explain something to her after you accuse him of coaching her? Wow, talk about a phishing expedition

spies8isaac (16:55:23): I've already stated mine and warned claude. I think he uses the wrong words and find it humorus he wants to make certain points clear and then ignores others that don't help his case. Tis is what gave us issues before

spies8gertrude (16:55:49): But Camilla and Chance are providing cases against Claude, and every five minutes or so Isaac will say something negative to Clause as well.

As of right now I have some concerns with claude as stated in the vote tallies thread and from comments between him and Jasmine. Chance seems a little...well, off. Nothing personal and I can't put my finger on it but he seems to be in all the big conversations and commenting on both sides, so really observant and concerned or overly worried about other things. Either way, can't tell. And lileth just because I haven't talked to you. Not really a suspicion I know, but would love to have at least a chance to chat sometime soon so I could get a reading.

For right now thats all I have and it isn't much at all. Hopefully day 2 will be more productive and everyone will have chatted with eachother by then.

Episode 1 Vote Reasoning: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=dems&thread=288&page=1#1342

Episode 2:

Jumping on Margot for small comment:

Are you completely serious Margot? Really? I mean REALLY? What kind of an argument is "Mm online now if you want to talk(Which you are by the way) before you all exile me".

No argument at all there Margot. Sounds like someone just doesn't care or is too busy to bother and either way that attitude sucks. Certainly isn't helping the case against you.

Post on Jasmine: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=dems&action=display&thread=533

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Lawrence: [votes: Claude, Margot]

- In and out of chat without much said, a bit lurky.
- FOS'es, while giving reasons NOT to FOS them.
- Doesn't seem to take strong stances.

Overall read for now: Very unsure.

Episode One:

spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=dems&thread=314&page=1#1267

spies8lawrence (16:56:6): Sorry, just trying to keep up...and I type slow, so its hard to interject timly. I think yhis is making me stronger on Claude...but his points have some merit as well, so need to be kept in consideration for if he should flip cit.

spies8lawrence (2:13:40 PM): Yeah, I guess. I'm still not convined about my vote right now, but I just don't see anything better.
Spies8Awohali (2:13:57 PM): Who is your vote resting on at the moment?
spies8lawrence (2:14:06 PM): Claude, still.
Spies8Awohali (2:14:18 PM): Perhaps that will wake Claude up, ha!
spies8lawrence (2:15:24 PM): I doubt it. He's probably of rehashing the same arguments, and I'm not sure it would help anyway. He needs someone to do something stupid, I think.
Spies8Awohali (2:16:06 PM): You say he needs to do something stupid? I am not sure I understand.
spies8lawrence (2:16:21 PM): No, he needs someone else to.
Spies8Awohali (2:16:34 PM): Ah, I misread, my apologies.
spies8lawrence (2:16:35 PM): That way someone else looks worse.

Well, may as well post the first real vote. Certainly not firm, but right now I am putting my vote down on Claude. Reasons? He's pushing Cory for what seems like no real reason to me, and seems to be trying to control in my opinion. I am certainly open to change, but for now, that's where I stand.

Regarding the original question, I have to say that it is a non-tell. A ClaudeSpy could ahve pointed the finger at a known cit, trusting that people are known to make mistakes and it would't bite him. Likewiuse, ClaudeCit could have been truly convinced of her guilt. So, at best, its something to consider, but not enough to base a case on/.

Episode 2:

Questions from Awaholi towards him: You made a very early vote on Claude and did not change it. I realize that you have been sick, but what efforts did you go through to ensure that Claude was a wise vote, and did anything happen from the time you psoted you would vote Claude and your last time online before the Exile that made you question your voting decision?

Respose:

I, when I managed to get on, was constantly re-evaluating. His cases, at least to me, sounded more of scum trying to get every one to go in another direction, particularly the Camilla case.

Unfortunately for me, it seems that much of what happened to send Camilla out wasn't postted, and I have the benefit of 20/20 hindsight to tell me that she was a cit; so I cannot say with certainty one way or the other if my vote would have changed. As before, Claude is fairly convincing about others, but I have to tale that carefully if I believe him to be a higher potential spy.

MY THOUGHTS
To try to determine who to vote for, these are my thoughts. The C's get a pass for their respective reasonsd, but will be watched. I believe Gertrude's reasons. Brody is gut, and Magalie is probably emotion. That leaves Jasmine and Margot. Margot is worried about being "misinterpreted"; she voted Camilla over Claude due to effort, and she's pushing Gertie. Jasmine is still pretty much an enigma.

I think at this point, I will be voting Margot over Jasmine for one primary reason--Jasmine at least seems to have a prsence, small and flufft as it may be. Margot to me is invisible and forgettable, which seems more like a spy trying to sneak by.

spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=dems&action=display&thread=504

spies8lawrence 5:56 pm
(5:56:39 PM): Ugh...I'm tempted to vote for Brody now. You guys aren't helping me any, you know.

On Isaac by Jasmine:
spies8lawrence (3:28:36 PM): I'll be honest, Jasmine, he hadn't really hit my radar. But you do bring up some good points; I'll have to do some investigation.

spies8mary (3:28:59 PM): Lawrence, what's your take on Margot?
spies8lawrence (3:29:15 PM): Hesitant?
spies8isaac (3:29:19 PM): lol
spies8lawrence (3:29:36 PM): She seems a little better with her piost frenzy this afternoon.
spies8lawrence (3:29:56 PM): I'm trying to deciode if its enough to change my vote or not.
spies8jasmine (3:30:03 PM): I'm in teh same boat Lawrence.

9 hours to go and I'm still the first to give my vote?

Voting Margot hesitantly dur to reasons here (FOS thread)

Awaholi on Lawrence: Lawrence - Still tends to mostly watch chat room discussions rather than join in them. He has contributed more, but he still does a lot of lurking.

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Jasmine: [votes: Chance, Margot]

- Seems funny, but her attitude could get in the way of hunting IMO.
- Seems to prefer group votes.
- So fucking OMGUS.

Overall read for now: Cassidy: Version Tranny

Episode One:

spies8cinnamyn: (10:10:45 PM)but den riddle me this, do u find voting no exile suspicious.?
spies8jasmine: (10:10:59 PM)I think so. I think only a spy wouldn't want to exile someone this early.
spies8jasmine: (10:11:06 PM)it's dumb for a civilian to not wanna

spies8jasmine: (10:29:21 PM)These people are so intelligent with these debates/discussions.
spies8jasmine: (10:29:23 PM)Huge words and all
spies8cinnamyn: (10:29:28 PM)lmbo.!
spies8jasmine: (10:29:32 PM)it makes me nervous, no lie.

Possible Claude/Jasmine fake fight?:
spies8broderick (11:27:53 PM): May, can I hear more about this suspicion I heard that you have? About Claude and Jasmine faking their fight earlier today.
spies8broderick (11:28:06 PM): *Mary
spies8broderick (11:28:43 PM): actually, it is not natural for people to just spontaneously talk about themselves with no prompting
spies8mary (11:28:45 PM): Sure. It was just a passing thought based on a weird set of circumstances.
spies8isaac (11:28:48 PM): Hmmm, does the way he interacted have something to do with his character? I would define it more as terse or curt instead of hostile, but it was odd. Off the top of my head I don't remember his bio so will have to go back and read it.
spies8mary (11:29:01 PM): Jasmine left the room in a huff
spies8mary (11:29:12 PM): Over something Claude said.
spies8mary (11:29:24 PM): And then came back an hour later and they seemed to have made up.
spies8mary (11:29:49 PM): So I asked about it, but obviously
spies8broderick (11:30:00 PM): Ah. Claude said it was a full blown suspicion that you had about both of them.
spies8mary (11:30:18 PM): Hmm. Define full-blown.
spies8mary (11:30:38 PM): I asked them why they weren't still angry, when she'd been so mad as to storm out.
spies8broderick (11:30:56 PM): actually he said 'theory'
spies8mary (11:30:59 PM): It looked staged, at least at first glance.
spies8claude (11:31:03 PM): You made a big deal out of it.
spies8mary (11:31:14 PM): I noticed it.
spies8mary (11:31:19 PM): And asked about it.
spies8claude (11:31:23 PM): I felt like it was pretty disengenuous. If we were spies staging a fight, we wouldn't forget that we were staging a fight when she came back.
spies8mary (11:31:34 PM): That makes no sense.
spies8broderick (11:31:48 PM): be right back
spies8mary (11:31:50 PM): It doesn't make sense either way. You forgot about the fight somehow.
spies8mary (11:32:11 PM): And I am naturally suspicious when people overreact.
spies8claude (11:32:14 PM): I never felt like we were 'fighting' in the first place; would be more accurate.
spies8claude (11:32:20 PM): She stormed off in a huff.
spies8claude (11:32:24 PM): She came back and was civil.

spies8claude (11:50:39 PM): Jasmine talks alot without actually saying anything. I don't think it's suspicious(not yet at least), but it bugs me

About Margot:

I think she was just kind of lost, as was I for a bit of it. Still getting use to everything. Have to ask her though, I guess. That's the vibe I got anyways.

spies8jasmine (3:14:08 PM): I was thinking Claude based on all the drama. I think him going from Cory to then suspecting Mary was so scummy.
spies8jasmine (3:14:10 PM): He don't tlk
spies8jasmine (3:14:17 PM): Claude is like a mute in these chats lately
spies8jasmine (3:14:18 PM): lol
spies8jasmine (3:16:06 PM): i think him suspecting cory and creating the chaos is scummy. just because a spy would want to get all into the game right away. imo.

Vote reasons for Chance: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=dems&thread=288&page=1#1534

Chance - The thing that makes me question Chance is the fact that everything seems to be to save his ass in some way. Everyone keeps mentioning the fact that he tells other people's thoughts but has none of his own. I think a spy would easily want to out other people, frame other people, do whatever it takes to get anyone else lynched but themselves. I can see Chance potentially doing this.

From Brod: Jasmine - Your vote looks bandwagonesque as well. Both Chance and Claude have been in the limelight. I noticed that when Awohali asked for your reasons for voting for Chance, you could not readily supply examples. You had to go looking for them. Given you plan on voting for him, why would you not have the evidence selected out somewhere?

Episode Two:

[23:18] spies8claude: There is no way Jasmine is a spy.

[23:25] spies8claude: Anyway, I am speaking from the perspective of knowing that I'm a citizen, but based on that, Jasmine really can't be a Spy.
[23:26] spies8claude: If she were, there's no way her last minute vote would have gone to chance.
[23:26] spies8mary: Why is that, Claude?
[23:26] spies8mary: Oh, right.
[23:26] spies8chance: he's still assuming i'm a spy.
[23:26] spies8gertrude: That's not based off of you being a citizen, that's based off of Chance being a Spy.
[23:26] spies8chance: and jas's reason for voting me is still utter crap.
[23:26] spies8gertrude: What was it?
[23:26] spies8claude: Not really.
[23:27] spies8claude: I mean, it helps to think that Chance is a Spy.
[23:27] spies8claude: But it doesnt' actually matter for that.
[23:27] spies8chance: basically it was "the talk about hal's no-exile comment is boring, and chance brought it up the most".
[23:27] spies8chance: i recall her saying that in chat, anyway.
[23:27] spies8chance: the one she posted was that i "swapped my suspects around".
[23:27] spies8chance: i already disproved that one.
[23:27] spies8chance: partially because i replied to it.
[23:28] spies8chance: partially because she based it off a post that larry made that i also replied to and debunked.

On Claude's Role:

Claude being the Majority Whip makes sense to me. Not only that, but it also seems like a citizen role to me. Thoughts? Anyone disagree, obviously some may think he's lying or it's a spy role?

A citizens only power is to vote during the day. I don't see a spy getting a power to then mess with that, like the Majority Whip seems to be. The way Claude said it--he gets to limit who people vote for, or be able to reduce them from even voting.

Also, I think Claude only outted the fact that he had his role because he said if Camilla wasn't a spy we could lynch him. It was out it, or he'd go.

Do you think it's a spy role or a citizen role, brod??

Larry on Jasmine:

This case is really based on the utter lack of anything. Nowhere did I find any real pushes, or even lukewarm suspicions. The best was agreements with other players. Even hunting for quotes from the messageboard--nothing. And thrn there was last night refusal to read Chancw's case on Claude-could be a wording issue, but I didn't really like it.

Questions from Awaholi: You voted for Chance citing that, "he'd switch from person to person semi fast". You then cited a post that Lawrence made.
Did you personally observe Chance switching people, or did you hear of this via the posts?

Response to Awaholi -

Yes. I did personally observe most of the times he did swap around. A lot of the initial chats we had as a group, I was apart of. If not all but like one. And in those chats, Chance swapped around his suspects quite a bit. To the point where many began to be suspect and were asking him a ton of questions.

I didn't read anything but some of the first post. I'm really busy, but I should be able to get all caught up and maybe get online tonight!

Reasons on Margot vote:

During everything with Isaac, and me becoming suspicious of him I was expecting a lot more out of Margot, but didn't get much at all. I was very back and forth between the two, but the fact that she did end up coming online, and yet didn't fight for a Gertrude lynch or even ask Isaac anything, but still..just observe. It didn't help her case any, and I think because of that and not wanting to rashly vote for Isaac.(And since I can't vote for Chance) It's leading me to vote for Margot at this point. In case I don't return before the live exile chat. Good luck to everyone. *crosses fingers that we get a spy this time around, we are obviously the better team.*

If you want clarification on the Isaac stuff, there is a thread. If you want chats of Margot not saying much at all, they are posted there. The girl just doesn't seem to care, and she showed that today..and she had the perfect opportunity to participate--I even asked her a few questions, I got nothing back from the gurl. Sorry Margot, your real chill. but nahh, I think your spy.

Answers to Brod's questions: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=dems&thread=502&page=1#2558

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Lillith: [votes: No Exile, Self Vote]

Overall read for now: Inactive, but pretty odd views when she's been around.

[22:02] spies8lilith: I agree that Margot's vote is very scummy
[22:02] spies8lilith: Last vote of a bandwagon
[22:02] spies8lilith: that kept 2 people from being lynched

[22:25] spies8lilith: Chance is not a spy, and is being framde
[22:25] spies8lilith: Or Chance is a spy being saved.

[22:25] spies8chance: so either way, lil, you think whoever saved me is a spy?
[22:25] spies8lilith: Certaintly.

[22:45] spies8lilith: I'm not ruling out possibilities
[22:45] spies8lilith: It's VERY unlikely a cit did this.

[22:53] spies8lilith: Cin, I'm not saying it HAS to be a spy or citizen..
[22:53] spies8lilith: I'm saying it's VERY likely to be a spy

Ackshully, IMMA JUST LINK DIS: spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=dems&action=display&thread=479

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Jasmine's Points On Isaac:
- Freaks out at Margot "giving up." Is "floored."
- Possible shaky suspect list.
- Fence sitting. Diplomatic responses.

spies8jasmine 5:48 pm
(5:48:35 PM): Thats fine.
(5:48:46 PM): So what is the entire reason Margot jumped
(5:48:48 PM): on your radar
spies8jasmine 5:48 pm
(5:48:54 PM): From #4, potentially, to #3?
spies8isaac 5:52 pm
(5:52:17 PM): That comment. From everything I'd heard of so far Margot was mainly suspicious because of inactivity or her one to two sentence responses so far. Kinda seemed even before day one ended that she was ready to accept whatever fate held for her. Then not hearing much of anything from her all of day two and that vote with the random statement at the end of of really made me take notice. My thinking was if she's a spy, then she has given up and her team is selling her down the river. If she's a citizen, why not be bothered enough to fight a bit more for your life. Also, again why even say that?

spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=dems&action=display&thread=508

Isaac's Points On Jasmine:
- Plays her character and doesn't have to put out much information because of it. Basically, she can just be a bitch because it's in her character.
- "Jokes" about voting Chance out because she hates him. Not confirmed if it was actually a joke.
- Shuts things down and wants to move onto new topics. Never presents new topics to talk about.
- Claims to not read cases done by people she doesn't like.
- Likes to think as a group person, throws "we" out there instead of putting things out there by herself.
- Disregards things that could be of use, much like Savannah.

spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=dems&action=display&thread=533

[Owen]

Reading done. Notes done. I just need to talk to these people. Perhaps come up with some questions.

Haven't read Sav shit. Perhaps I'll get around to that.

Never going to find out if Steph is crazy or scummy until we lynch her. Perhaps this round.

[Owen]

Gabe AKA Michael AKA Adraspy amuses me. It's so glaringly obvious that we've figured each other out. At least I can use my sense of humor with him without him accusing me of fluffing everything up. That's just how I roll.

And I think he's town. Though, I think he was a bit more aggressive last time we played together in MMG0.

[Owen]

TRACK LISTING:

1. Calle Ocho - Intro
2. Town (Town, Town, Town, Town)
3. On My Scumdar
4. W.I.F.O.M
5. Star Spanglished Banter - Nita Solo
6. Hey & A Smiley Face (Jenny Anthem)
7. Scumhuntin' Like My Daddy
8. My Town Is Like Whoa
9. Does That Make Steph Crazy? ft. Gnarlz Barkley
10. Move Bitch (Get Off Tha Fence)
11. Know Your Role (Ode To Savannah)

COP THAT SHIT NOW, TURN YO FUCKIN' HEADPHONES UP. NO, SERIOUSLY, I CAN'T HEAR SHIT.

[Owen]

I don't think I've taken the time yet to bitch about losing Nita to the other team, so I'll do that now.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU TAKE MY SPANGLISH SPEAKING SCUMHUNTING AMIGO AWAY FROM ME? AIM dice, you lost a good friend in me, and more importantly, you lost a good advocate. I will no longer promote the rolling of AIM dice in any of my challenges, I will no longer roll your dice in awkward situations to break the ice, I will no longer play the awesome dice rolling Whammy-like game Chris and I came up with. I'm done.

But really, I'm upset to have lost Nita. I'm obviously happier that it didn't happen via imprisonment, but it's still tragic either way. She was really helpful with keeping my head on straight before the first exile, and I know Tina shares the same sentiment. Without Nita, the two of us could be a bit of a trainwreck together in crunch-time. I'm trusting Tina to be a valuable member of O's-Town for right now, even though I do think the possibility for EPICSCUMNESS is there. The other person I'm trusting at the moment would be pint-sized brawler Gabriel. He's been the easiest for me to talk to and say things to without worrying about him twisting things around on me.

I'm a lot more convinced about Gabriel being town right now than I am Tina, but it wouldn't be out of my character to be overly paranoid about something. Tina is one of the smartest players in the game and she's doing her thing. I had the same feelings about Zed that she had, so I can't fault her for her first vote unless other things come up. It appears like she's playing pretty hard to for the citizens, so I have no idea why I'm even talking about this right now. Well, aside from the fact that she never seems to ask me about my suspicions. I guess I could be guilty of doing the same with her too, though. Maybe we're just feeling each others town-ness when we talk? Meh, I'm a head-case.



Jennifer
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Themba
Zedekiah
Stephanie
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Lawrence
Isaac
Jasmine

[Owen]

MY PINT SIZED BRAWLER.

I was legitimately as nervous as I was after I was revealed safe as I was before. This is so much different than last time.

[Owen]

STEPHANIE IS SO FUCKING GENUINE TO ME. SHE SAYS CRAZY SHIT, BUT SHE'S GENUINE.

MMG0 ANGELO VERSION 2.0?

FUCK.

Girl believes what she says. And if she doesn't, Academy Award winning actress in the making.

[Owen]

WHERE.THE.FUCK.IS.GABE?

BRING HIM THE FUCK BACK.

I'M SO TEMPTED TO NOT EVEN WRITE CONFESSIONALS RIGHT NOW. I DON'T WANT TO DEPRIVE YOU, SAM, BUT I CAN NOT STAND MY GROUP ANYMORE.

Jasmine, Cassidy wants her vagina and her attitude back.

Terrible. Read again. Terrible.

[Owen]

My group is currently discussing the vote... or, well, no, they're bickering. It's really fucking annoying. I'm pretending to be away "getting food," but in all actuality, I just don't want to talk to them right now. There's so little time left to make tons of decisions, and their attitudes combined with my indecisiveness is just pissing me off and it's not getting anything accomplished on my end.

And while I sit back and completely ignore them, do they even once question me? No. How am I still alive over Gabe? The fact that I can sit in a chat and say absolutely nothing, while having people possibly handing me over "the biggest power in Spies history" says to me that there's a different reason that Gabe is dead. Did he blab to the wrong person? Was he onto someone? Meh.

I am fucking Hank right now, in a non-literal sense. I say a few really logical things in the chat, I voice my opinion, I disappear and nobody questions me. I'm friendly with mostly everyone and have stayed out of the drama. I... am Hank. So chances are, even if I do survive all of these nightkills, there's going to be that point in the game where everybody starts putting pressure on me. If no pressure is coming now, it's likely to come back to me all at once later on.

But, as long as I get this power, I'll quit my bitching. I'm trying to be so diplomatic about it to the point where those who didn't vote yet are like "yeah, Owen is a lovely choice, let's give it to him."

Examples:

(10:56:03 PM) spies8isaac: Quick question for you...and kind of random I know. But the general feeling is that you will be the one who will get the ultimate power from Sam. Do you think you would use it more for the republican side, or more on the Dems since a lot of the strong leads you guys had switched over there when teams changed?
(10:56:25 PM) spies8owen: I would use it smartly, regardless of groups.
(10:57:13 PM) spies8owen: If it were some sort of investigation, I would likely use it on Zed.
(10:57:21 PM) spies8isaac: Ahhh, good answer. Some people have just been trying to convince me on which team must have more spies and honestly they no one knows either way

Giving diplomatic answers to the most diplomatic answerer in the game? No wonder I crack myself up so much. I AM HILARIOUS. RIGHT? Right.

(10:24:31 PM) spies8jasmine: i may just vote brod, even tho he suspects me.
(10:24:33 PM) spies8owen: I still need to talk to BOTH of them.
(10:24:53 PM) spies8jasmine: lawrence and isaac?
(10:25:33 PM) spies8owen: From what I've seen so far, I think Broderick is the only one I feel like I'd be able to vote for an immunity. I don't know enough about the others yet.

I also said something similar to this in chat, saying I think he'd be in the most danger. He might be in the most danger, but I really don't care about that at this point. He's so... Broderick. That said, I'm hoping that he took into note that I "want him to be safe."

Give me the fucking power, fa reals.

Back to attempt chatting with these crazies.

[Owen]

I just told Stephanie I trust her.

I think that may make me as crazy as she is. Perhaps more.

[Owen]

So I'm at the top of my game later...

Magalie: [votes: Gertrude, Margot]

From Awo:

You posted that you suspected Gertude, citing, "I just have a feeling but I dont know how to put it in words."
You then came online, and when asked on your feelings of Gertrude, you responded that "I dont have one really its just she would give me a hard time and I have not been here the whole week."
Then, you said:
spies8magalie (10:23:11 PM): well kinda sorta
spies8magalie (10:23:43 PM): I have doubts but ehh shes just a dedicated cit
That seems to contradict your statement that you have no feelings on her. It also seems odd that you would state that she is a "Dedicated cit" and then actually VOTE for her.

From Nita:

# Said she suspected Getrtude only on a feelin
# Then said Gertrude was “just a dedicated cit”
# Then voted for Gertrude
# Then said she said Gertrude was a cit so people would leave her alone
# Then partied
# In the round 2 votin thread:“Margot:Either that girl has somethin goin on in her life or this strange mother fucker has got to be a spy that is playin under the Radar.”
# Then partied
# This round she ask me who I suspect most. I tell her Stephanie. She then tell Cinnamyn y Jenny that her #1 suspect be Stephanie. Stephanie ain’t even on our team.
# She ain’t payin attention, she lyin, she voting people for bad reasons y laughin.
# Who Magalie make sense as spies with: Isaac.
# Who Magalie no make sense as spies with: Claude. Lilith

Response to Nita:

I'm so done with fightin but let me say this before Cinn's little tacobell chihuahua fills your nostrils with poison like every other Mexican does. I asked Nita who she FOS and she said Steph. Well Cinn also asked me who I FOS and I told her Claude and to also watch out for Steph because of what Nita gave word of. I was unaware until cinn told me that Steph was not even on our team. So don't go off spreadin Lies about me to try to make what I did sound worse the what it really was. I never spoke a word to Jenny last night so I don't know where that came from. You doing that makes me suspicious about you by tryin to make shit up when you ain't got shit to begin with. Your assumptions are going to get you nowhere in this game. You never came out and asked me about this situation you just automatically went on a whim and post you little post. Whateva Im over it

Ep 2 Vote Reasons:

Im leaning towards Lilith, Claude, and Margot.
Lilith:After readin the transcripts I felt strange as to why she would "agree" with Claude. Is she like just tryin to say stuff to hear herself talk? Or was she just tryin to agree with Claude so that Claude would take all the blame if Chance turned out not to be a spy so that she could just say she didn't know.
Claude:I smelt somethin fishy the first time I laid eyes on him. Now that he has his new role I question if that is actually a citizen role or could he also be a spy with that role.
Margot:Either that girl has somethin goin on in her life or this strange mother fucker has got to be a spy that is playin under the Radar.

well my vote is for Margot...peace out I got a party to go to.

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JENNYSCUM: [votes: Zed, Stephanie]

She's useful and friendly -- always the first to invite someone to the chat, giving advice to newer players (Rondak), giving reminders, etc. Maybe it's just in her character and personality to be organized like that, but sometimes I get the feeling that she's trying to make herself seem over-useful.

Didn't seem to budge with voting for Zed and took a wait and see approach on Zed based on Spies6Callahan. So much Spies knowledge, and one would have to think experience, for this:

(3:59:29 AM) spies8dane: i'd like you to do something for me real quick
(3:59:48 AM) spies8dane: push someone you suspect beside zedekiah on me
(3:59:49 AM) spies8dane: right now
(4:00:00 AM) spies8dane: and try to convince me to vote said person
(4:00:28 AM) spies8dane: i'll start you off
(4:00:45 AM) spies8dane: gee gorgeous, i'm not really sure who to vote, they all sound so good and innocent
(4:00:49 AM) spies8owen: I don't think you're referring to me as gorgeous, so I'll just chill for now.
(4:01:04 AM) spies8dane: your next gymteacher
(4:01:05 AM) spies8jenny: I was just talking about it with Owen actually, we were talking about how Stephi-kins is coming off fairly strange with her reasons for voting certain people. I'm hoping to get some more information from or about her, if not for tomorrow's exile then before the 3rd one.
(4:01:46 AM) spies8dane: thats pushing a vote?
(4:02:20 AM) spies8jenny: I'm not one to push votes really. I just state what I think on something and let others use the information how they like.

Maybe it's just me, but I feel like people with Spies experience would be capable of pushing for people. Jenny doesn't do that. She didn't even seem to follow up on her Zed suspicions, though he was the only suspect I had heard of from her until Stephanie came under a bit of heat. I also feel like her posts are so formulated and thought out. I don't feel the sincerity at all.

How is one so active without contributing their thoughts? I know I'm not the only one that feels this way.

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Themba: [votes: Zed, Savannah]

- Extreme vote flip-flopper. From Dane to Alexei to Zed. Dane = OMGUS type vote after he placed an early vote on her. Alexei = legitimate change, but odd reasoning of "that's all I need to hear" when there were other things on the table before that about Alexei. Zed = brought on by the "HQ" comment. Was 55/45 and such, which was a great way for her to keep her options open.

- Seemed so convinced that Alexei was giving up as a spy, laughed with me the entire time about it and said she has NEVER seen a citizen lie down like that. One would think that something like that (along with the other things on him) would be enough to keep a vote on him.

- Possible Isaac/Themba spy connection. Comment/possible slip from Isaac that I found in my reading was brought to light by Lawrence -- since then I have seen the connection a bit more. Themba tried using humor in the chat to cover it up, there was also this eye opener:

(10:24:16 PM) spies8themba: it's all there in the thread he made. can't remember the name. and i am still suspicious of him. especially after i addressed his concerns and his responses to those. but i am just watching him at the moment.
(10:24:41 PM) spies8themba: oops. that was for isaac.

That, to me, seems like such a ploy to act like they were talking as citizens. The 30 second or so delay makes me think it was deliberate and not wanting to seem over the top about it. But really, if I (or anyone for that matter) were to send something to the wrong person, I think they'd immediately know that they sent it to the wrong person. Fishy.

- The thing in her favor is that I feel like she is so quick with her responses and there's little to no "stopped typing" while she's answering questions of yours. That would make me think that she's not reaching for answers and is being genuine and saying what's actually on her mind.

- STILL have a difficult time reading her due to the fact that we're buddies. The fear of being overparanoid is there.

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Lawrence: [votes: Claude, Margot]

- FOS's, while giving reasons NOT to FOS them:

I believe Gertrude's reasons. Brody is gut, and Magalie is probably emotion. That leaves Jasmine and Margot. Margot is worried about being "misinterpreted"; she voted Camilla over Claude due to effort, and she's pushing Gertie. Jasmine is still pretty much an enigma.

- No strong stances.

I had some issues with his comments to a few of the others on AIM where he said he'd be voting for Themba or Isaac right now. However, before saying that he said that Jasmine was the most suspicious to him, he had done no investigating on Isaac yet, had a gut feeling about Brod. Basically, suspicious on all of them without solid reasoning.

- Uses the "sick" excuse for Episode 1. It could be legit, but I know I was sick for a few days and still managed to keep up.

- No defense of:

This also is a hypocritical vote. Voting Margot over Jasmine for trying, while a point against Margot is that she voted Camilla over Claude for effort, aka trying.

spies8lawrence (3:32:19 PM): And yes, at that time, it was one of my primary reasons. Despite knowing it was hypocritical of me. But when choosing between two potential spies with little evidence, you take what you can get.

So he knows what he did, but there is something left to be desired I think. If you are attacking someone for using a tell, it should at least mean that it is a bad tell, not something you should use yourself. I think this boils down to him, not going out and talking to anyone though.

- Likely ineffective way of hunting:

I do much of my hunting by scouring threads. I've spent houres rereading chat logs and looking for clues. IMing others directly? Seems my schedule disappoints. I've only got a couple hour usually, if that, and when people aren't on, they aren't on. And I agree with your last point-but common suspicions are a good place to start. And that's what it was, a start.

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Isaac: [votes: Claude, Claude]

Gut, as shitty as it sounds. Also, Themba/Isaac connection.

- Voted a roleholder... oh wow, this is pathetic. Not much on him still, but it's just a general vibe I get.

More possible Isaac/Thembs connection:

(11:04:43 PM) spies8owen: I sound like a broken record regarding Themba, but I've gotten along well with her (probably the most as far as making each other laugh/keeping each other amused is concerned) and it's making it difficult for me to get a read on her.
(11:05:01 PM) spies8owen: The other things she's done, like being jumpy, isn't neccessarily a scum-tell.
(11:05:13 PM) spies8isaac: LOL, she is amusing...got to chat with her today a bit actaully
(11:05:26 PM) spies8isaac: Ya, asked her on that as well because I thought it odd
(11:06:07 PM) spies8isaac: But was informed by others it was for no reason which is why they suspected her. When I asked Themba though, she had several reasons and all of them understandable
(11:06:35 PM) spies8owen: Yeah, she never made it a secret that she was very split between Alexei/Zed.
(11:06:36 PM) spies8owen: 55/45
(11:08:13 PM) spies8isaac: But see, again I asked others today what caused the jump and was told "for no apparent reason". I honestly feel some of the Republicans have already forgotten it and moved on because of the group change.....this isn't good at all\
(11:08:44 PM) spies8owen: It wasn't no apparent reason. Zed said the term "HQ."
(11:08:57 PM) spies8owen: She announced her change to me. So yeah, I think you may be right that they're more focused on the other group.
(11:09:18 PM) spies8isaac: Ya, that one I heard, but the reasoning behind Themba's jump I got nothing from two players....
(11:09:38 PM) spies8owen: Did they bring up the no lynch thing?
(11:09:43 PM) spies8owen: Because again, not a big deal.

[Jenny]

Jun 28, 2010 2:35:50 GMT -6 Owen said:

TRACK LISTING:

1. Calle Ocho - Intro
2. Town (Town, Town, Town, Town)
3. On My Scumdar
4. W.I.F.O.M
5. Star Spanglished Banter - Nita Solo
6. Hey & A Smiley Face (Jenny Anthem)
7. Scumhuntin' Like My Daddy
8. My Town Is Like Whoa
9. Does That Make Steph Crazy? ft. Gnarlz Barkley
10. Move Bitch (Get Off Tha Fence)
11. Know Your Role (Ode To Savannah)

COP THAT SHIT NOW, TURN YO FUCKIN' HEADPHONES UP. NO, SERIOUSLY, I CAN'T HEAR SHIT.

I think the sad part is it took me a minute to figure out who the one on the far left was.

[Dane]

Jasmine, Cassidy wants her vagina and her attitude back.

I lol'ed

[spies7vladimir]

Jun 28, 2010 2:35:50 GMT -6 Owen said:

TRACK LISTING:

1. Calle Ocho - Intro
2. Town (Town, Town, Town, Town)
3. On My Scumdar
4. W.I.F.O.M
5. Star Spanglished Banter - Nita Solo
6. Hey & A Smiley Face (Jenny Anthem)
7. Scumhuntin' Like My Daddy
8. My Town Is Like Whoa
9. Does That Make Steph Crazy? ft. Gnarlz Barkley
10. Move Bitch (Get Off Tha Fence)
11. Know Your Role (Ode To Savannah)

COP THAT SHIT NOW, TURN YO FUCKIN' HEADPHONES UP. NO, SERIOUSLY, I CAN'T HEAR SHIT.

OMG. This is freaking hilarious. Very nicely done Steve.