Episode 3 - Conversations
Jul 1, 2010 1:33:29 GMT -6
Post by Owen on Jul 1, 2010 1:33:29 GMT -6
(10:23:18 PM) spies8jasmine: maybe they think your hot. ;-)
(10:23:45 PM) spies8owen: Hahahaha, very doubtful. I think I was just brought up as an alternative option to Tina and the others would prefer me to have it over her.
(10:24:00 PM) spies8jasmine: i feel odd giving it to someone i just met
(10:24:05 PM) spies8jasmine: so idk if ill be voting for any of the republicans
(10:24:11 PM) spies8jasmine: and with the democrats im kind of limited
(10:24:11 PM) spies8owen: As would I. Understandable.
(10:24:19 PM) spies8jasmine: i suspect isaac
(10:24:23 PM) spies8jasmine: and dunno about lawrence
(10:24:25 PM) spies8jasmine: just met this new lilith
(10:24:31 PM) spies8jasmine: i may just vote brod, even tho he suspects me.
(10:24:33 PM) spies8owen: I still need to talk to BOTH of them.
(10:24:53 PM) spies8jasmine: lawrence and isaac?
(10:25:33 PM) spies8owen: From what I've seen so far, I think Broderick is the only one I feel like I'd be able to vote for an immunity. I don't know enough about the others yet.
(10:25:38 PM) spies8owen: And yeah, Isaac and Larry.
(10:25:54 PM) spies8owen: The only one from the old democrats, I mean.
(10:26:27 PM) spies8jasmine: gotcha gotcha.
(10:26:32 PM) spies8jasmine: everyone seems stuck on them
(10:26:36 PM) spies8jasmine: from the people ive tlked to today
(10:27:57 PM) spies8owen: I had a talk about it with Brod last night. I'm not taking my eyes off of people in my group -- I just know little to nothing about the others yet. I hate that there seems to be this huge divide in our group because of original groups.
(10:28:28 PM) spies8jasmine: thats how i feel as well
(10:28:31 PM) spies8jasmine: i feel almost alone
(10:28:35 PM) spies8jasmine: because the people i talked to most
(10:28:38 PM) spies8jasmine: arent the ones i swapped it
(10:28:40 PM) spies8jasmine: with*
(10:28:55 PM) spies8owen: The "we caught a scum, you didn't" comments are un-needed. So are the comments we get in return (which I think are because you guys feel like you're being singled out)
(10:29:10 PM) spies8jasmine: yea, i do feel like that.
(10:29:23 PM) spies8owen: It's so counter-productive with how things are going.
(10:29:27 PM) spies8jasmine: and i also felt like we were jumped upon to get info out of, and didnt get much back for the longest time.
(10:29:42 PM) spies8jasmine: i feel like now, at this moment, i somewhat get the republicans a bit more.
(10:29:47 PM) spies8jasmine: and it makes me miss the demos so much more.
(10:30:36 PM) spies8owen: Even before this switch, I think we were more of an in IM kinda group.
(10:30:54 PM) spies8jasmine: you guys did more 1-1?
(10:30:56 PM) spies8jasmine: we did more group
(10:31:21 PM) spies8owen: Yeah -- at least much more for me. Our chat seems harder to keep up with, Brod even noticed that we switch topics and have multiple things going on at once too often.
(10:31:52 PM) spies8jasmine: oh ok.
(10:35:12 PM) spies8owen: I feel like once we've got more people on we should have some kinda discussion about this (or perhaps wait until after exile so we're not doing it in the middle of trying to figure things out).
(10:35:18 PM) spies8owen: Because it IS a problem.
(10:36:19 PM) spies8jasmine: We have so much to figure out at the moment
(10:36:21 PM) spies8jasmine: betwen the two immunities
(10:36:23 PM) spies8jasmine: the ultimate power
(10:36:25 PM) spies8jasmine: who to exile
(10:36:30 PM) spies8jasmine: if we should vote our person that is exiled out
(10:36:32 PM) spies8jasmine: or the other teams
(10:36:32 PM) spies8jasmine: etc
(10:36:33 PM) spies8jasmine: :-\
(10:37:09 PM) spies8owen: I know, such little time to do it now, too.
(10:37:11 PM) spies8owen: Fucking challenge.
(10:37:28 PM) spies8jasmine: I know.
(10:37:28 PM) spies8jasmine: LOL
(10:37:30 PM) spies8owen: What are your thoughts as of now?
(10:37:36 PM) spies8jasmine: I suspect Isaac
(10:37:37 PM) spies8jasmine: still
(10:37:41 PM) spies8jasmine: from back as a democrat.
(10:37:49 PM) spies8jasmine: And it's hard for me to hardcore suspect any republican.
(10:37:58 PM) spies8jasmine: But I did faintly suspect stephanie, kind of has faded
(10:38:03 PM) spies8jasmine: nobody else has really jumped up
(10:38:05 PM) spies8jasmine: so if i had to vote right now
(10:38:11 PM) spies8jasmine: id just go on issacc.
(10:38:37 PM) spies8jasmine: which is why i dont get why SO MANY of the republicans have hardcore be suspect of isaac/lawrence already. esp lawrence, because..i dont feel like i know u guys enough yet
(10:38:39 PM) spies8owen: Isaac/Lawrence are the two I feel like I need to talk to the most. My strongest suspect is on the other team (Jenny) >_> and I'm very unsure of Themba. I have trouble reading her because we get along really well. Makes it cloudy.
(10:38:45 PM) spies8jasmine: and there isnt threads on lawrence, like there is on isaac.
(10:39:52 PM) spies8owen: Lawrence has presented some stuff on his own. His half-FOS's and a few of his comments like "I'd vote for Themba or Isaac" despite finding you to be the most suspicious and having no info on Themba and not doing his studying on Isaac.
(10:40:12 PM) spies8owen: Oh... Isaac is on now? I don't see him in the chat.
(10:41:38 PM) spies8jasmine: He is?
(10:41:54 PM) spies8owen: Mmhmm, just about to IM him.
(10:42:10 PM) spies8owen: Trying to think of distinct things to ask him, because I really don't feel like I have any solid questions for him. Bleh.
(10:43:46 PM) spies8jasmine: ugh i need to chill, these republicans are bugging me.
(10:43:53 PM) spies8jasmine: I want to go back to the old teams. -_-
(10:45:28 PM) spies8owen: Honestly, I'd prefer the old teams right now too. I felt like I was figuring things out.
(10:45:46 PM) spies8owen: Then comes in 5 others that I have to read up about, and all the tension that there's been.
(10:45:51 PM) spies8jasmine: mmhmm
(10:45:56 PM) spies8jasmine: and i dont think us coming over here
(10:45:58 PM) spies8jasmine: was that great in itself
(10:46:04 PM) spies8jasmine: us 5, lilith wasnt even the same lilith
(10:46:13 PM) spies8jasmine: and then us, we werent hardcore in the center of things as much as like
(10:46:14 PM) spies8jasmine: claude
(10:46:14 PM) spies8jasmine: chance
(10:46:15 PM) spies8jasmine: cinnamyn
(10:46:17 PM) spies8jasmine: gertrude
(10:46:17 PM) spies8jasmine: mary
(10:46:25 PM) spies8jasmine: i think if we split those up a bit, things wuld be a lot diff
(10:46:31 PM) spies8jasmine: and i think if they asked lawrence an overall suspect list
(10:46:37 PM) spies8jasmine: he wouldnt have said all our names like he did
(10:46:51 PM) spies8jasmine: and i think they are just taking the fact that he commented ON THE DEMOCRATS HE CAME VOER WITH, and him not having hardcore things on us. is fine
(10:47:00 PM) spies8jasmine: because he prolly suspected gertrude and thigns like that
(10:47:05 PM) spies8jasmine: like claude vs chance was a huge thing over there
(10:47:09 PM) spies8jasmine: gertrude being herself, etc. :-\
(10:47:11 PM) spies8jasmine: ugh i need to chill
(10:47:51 PM) spies8jasmine: I hope he gets online
(10:47:51 PM) spies8jasmine: :-)
(10:49:09 PM) spies8owen: Lawrence had 2 of you on his FOS's before he came over here.
(10:49:49 PM) spies8owen: You and Brod.
(10:50:15 PM) spies8jasmine: I dont think his take on brod was that serious tho
(10:50:16 PM) spies8jasmine: was it?
(10:50:22 PM) spies8jasmine: from wat i rememmber, it wasnt.
(10:50:32 PM) spies8owen: BRODERICK
This is admittedly a gut feeling, one that I got while reading. Searchinf for evidence didn't bear much fruit. One thing to note about Brod is that he asks lots of questions, and good for him. But they always seem to be more about clarifying other peoples stances than trying to make his own. In fact, the only thing I could find that seemed mostly himself was this one line:
(10:50:34 PM) spies8jasmine: lawrence wasnt around much over there.
(10:50:50 PM) spies8owen: It seems serious to me.
(10:50:54 PM) spies8jasmine: hm, that does
(7/1/2010 1:42:56 AM) spies8owen: Hey Jas.
(1:43:11 AM) spies8jasmine: Hey Own!
(1:43:13 AM) spies8jasmine: Owen*
(1:43:15 AM) spies8jasmine: How are you?
(1:43:26 AM) spies8owen: Feeling indecisive. It's annoying.
(1:43:33 AM) spies8owen: You?
(1:44:12 AM) spies8jasmine: Same. i think I'm going to ultimately rest on voting isaac, but im so unsure even of that.
(1:44:19 AM) spies8jasmine: I feel like if i do
(1:44:27 AM) spies8owen: If I was voting on gut, I'd vote Isaac.
(1:44:28 AM) spies8jasmine: its just the easy thing to do.
(1:44:32 AM) spies8owen: The Themba/him stuff is starting to catch my eye.
(1:44:39 AM) spies8owen: (10:24:16 PM) spies8themba: it's all there in the thread he made. can't remember the name. and i am still suspicious of him. especially after i addressed his concerns and his responses to those. but i am just watching him at the moment.
(10:24:41 PM) spies8themba: oops. that was for isaac.
(1:44:45 AM) spies8owen: Doesn't that seem like it could be a faked cit thing?
(1:44:51 AM) spies8owen: Since the whole possible slip got picked up on.
(1:45:15 AM) spies8jasmine: What slip??
(1:45:23 AM) spies8owen: Isaac saying that he hadn't talked to Themba
(1:45:28 AM) spies8owen: In on of your early group chats.
(1:45:30 AM) spies8owen: one*
(1:45:40 AM) spies8owen: The thing that Larry posted in his thread.
(1:45:40 AM) spies8jasmine: Ohhh
(1:45:45 AM) spies8jasmine: And then that?
(1:45:49 AM) spies8jasmine: Meaning they have spoken?
(1:45:52 AM) spies8jasmine: is that wat u mean?
(1:45:55 AM) spies8owen: No, no.
(1:46:06 AM) spies8jasmine: its late where i am, sorry
(1:46:06 AM) spies8jasmine: lol
(1:46:30 AM) spies8owen: The whole possible slip thing got brought up last night (or yesterday) to Broderick by Larry. I don't know who else was there, but Broderick said it was posted.
(1:46:42 AM) spies8owen: So I'm thinking that perhaps Isaac and Themba found out about it
(1:47:07 AM) spies8owen: And had Themba/him had a fake citizen chat. (10:24:16 PM) spies8themba: it's all there in the thread he made. can't remember the name. and i am still suspicious of him. especially after i addressed his concerns and his responses to those. but i am just watching him at the moment.
(10:24:41 PM) spies8themba: oops. that was for isaac.
(1:47:11 AM) spies8owen: She sent that to me earlier.
(1:47:29 AM) spies8owen: Look at the pause in between. If I sent something to the wrong person, I would be all over that shit within a few seconds.
(1:47:37 AM) spies8owen: It looks possibly intentional.
(1:47:43 AM) spies8jasmine: hmm
(1:47:44 AM) spies8jasmine: ya same here
(1:47:46 AM) spies8jasmine: id know within seconds.
(1:47:53 AM) spies8jasmine: not 30 seconds
(1:47:54 AM) spies8jasmine: anyways
(1:47:56 AM) spies8jasmine: closer then that
(1:47:57 AM) spies8jasmine: lol
(1:48:08 AM) spies8jasmine: so you think they both might be spies, working together?
(1:48:18 AM) spies8owen: It's possible.
(1:48:25 AM) spies8owen: I think if one of them is, it's very likely the other is.
(1:48:38 AM) spies8owen: At first Isaac was suspect of Themba, now he's on her good side it seems.
(1:49:12 AM) spies8owen: And then there's the other vote we have to take into account >_>
(1:49:21 AM) spies8owen: With the democrats
(1:49:28 AM) spies8jasmine: yea.
(1:49:33 AM) spies8jasmine: I think though, this seems very interesting
(1:49:36 AM) spies8jasmine: the way you are putting it.
(1:49:37 AM) spies8owen: I have to do some reading on Magalie.
(1:49:52 AM) spies8jasmine: See, no. I don't think magalie is a good lynch. if that ends up to be there choice
(1:49:55 AM) spies8jasmine: id go with ours
(1:50:06 AM) spies8jasmine: magalie isnt on much, which gave me the vibe of uninterested citizen
(1:50:09 AM) spies8owen: I'm hoping it's Jenny. My suspect numero uno.
(1:50:11 AM) spies8jasmine: i think a spy wouldnt act the way she does.
(1:50:19 AM) spies8jasmine: Jenny would be interesting, ya.
(1:50:47 AM) spies8jasmine: So, if u dont mind answering this. just so im sure i did everything
(1:50:52 AM) spies8jasmine: we need to post who we want to give ultimate power to
(1:51:10 AM) spies8jasmine: send a pm with 3 names for getting immunty from imprisonment 4
(1:51:16 AM) spies8jasmine: and then post our vote in our confessional
(1:51:17 AM) spies8jasmine: right?
(1:52:06 AM) spies8owen: I believe you've got everything right there.
(1:52:20 AM) spies8jasmine: okay
(1:52:43 AM) spies8owen: Yeah, just double-checked. PM the 3 immunity choices.
(1:52:55 AM) spies8owen: I still don't even have those decided.
(1:53:34 AM) spies8jasmine: Me either.
(1:54:28 AM) spies8owen: I'm still thinking I'm gonna put Brod on there.
(1:55:06 AM) spies8owen: Unless anyone else is REALLY concerned about imprisonment.
(1:55:10 AM) spies8jasmine: My idea was: Yourself, Tina, and Brod.
(1:55:12 AM) spies8jasmine: Or
(1:55:15 AM) spies8jasmine: Lilith instead of Tina.
(1:55:20 AM) spies8jasmine: Cause she gives me citizen vibes.
(1:55:28 AM) spies8owen: I've got cit vibes from Lilith so far, too.
(1:55:52 AM) spies8jasmine: ya, she gives me the idea that she is going to be a very citizen person. so she'll be helpful for a bit, but will prolly be a target for imprisonment as well
(1:55:58 AM) spies8jasmine: So her getting immunity might be good
(1:56:39 AM) spies8owen: Good call. I couldn't actually think of anyone that seemed like an obvious imprisonment target.
(1:56:58 AM) spies8jasmine: i think because she is new as well
(1:57:02 AM) spies8jasmine: new and already giving those vibes
(1:57:10 AM) spies8jasmine: they may jump on her, because they wont think doc will save the new girl
(1:57:15 AM) spies8jasmine: but they dont want her around either
(1:57:15 AM) spies8jasmine: dunno
(1:57:35 AM) spies8owen: I've been really worried about the last two. When I got a vote at the first exile everyone was like "Owen?! OWEN?!"
(1:57:39 AM) spies8owen: I'm like "shut the fuck up, please."
(1:57:42 AM) spies8owen: In my head, of course.
(1:58:06 AM) spies8jasmine: lol. YOu might've been the save then.
(1:58:12 AM) spies8jasmine: I honestly didn't know much about you at all.
(1:58:22 AM) spies8jasmine: That you were so widly thought of as a citizen or anything like that.
(1:58:29 AM) spies8owen: I've considered it -- I feel like I was the other choice besides Nita.
(1:58:40 AM) spies8owen: Well, I was the other early Alexei contributer.
(1:58:48 AM) spies8owen: And actually stuck to voting to him unlike a certain somebody.
(1:59:22 AM) spies8owen: Nobody asks me many questions, either.
(1:59:23 AM) spies8owen: It's concerning.
(2:00:05 AM) spies8jasmine: yea, i dont have much to ask you at this point.
(2:00:11 AM) spies8jasmine: We will see I guess.
(2:01:04 AM) spies8owen: Oh yay, questions from Themba.
(2:01:17 AM) spies8jasmine: I need to look those over as well, in a second.
(10:23:45 PM) spies8owen: Hahahaha, very doubtful. I think I was just brought up as an alternative option to Tina and the others would prefer me to have it over her.
(10:24:00 PM) spies8jasmine: i feel odd giving it to someone i just met
(10:24:05 PM) spies8jasmine: so idk if ill be voting for any of the republicans
(10:24:11 PM) spies8jasmine: and with the democrats im kind of limited
(10:24:11 PM) spies8owen: As would I. Understandable.
(10:24:19 PM) spies8jasmine: i suspect isaac
(10:24:23 PM) spies8jasmine: and dunno about lawrence
(10:24:25 PM) spies8jasmine: just met this new lilith
(10:24:31 PM) spies8jasmine: i may just vote brod, even tho he suspects me.
(10:24:33 PM) spies8owen: I still need to talk to BOTH of them.
(10:24:53 PM) spies8jasmine: lawrence and isaac?
(10:25:33 PM) spies8owen: From what I've seen so far, I think Broderick is the only one I feel like I'd be able to vote for an immunity. I don't know enough about the others yet.
(10:25:38 PM) spies8owen: And yeah, Isaac and Larry.
(10:25:54 PM) spies8owen: The only one from the old democrats, I mean.
(10:26:27 PM) spies8jasmine: gotcha gotcha.
(10:26:32 PM) spies8jasmine: everyone seems stuck on them
(10:26:36 PM) spies8jasmine: from the people ive tlked to today
(10:27:57 PM) spies8owen: I had a talk about it with Brod last night. I'm not taking my eyes off of people in my group -- I just know little to nothing about the others yet. I hate that there seems to be this huge divide in our group because of original groups.
(10:28:28 PM) spies8jasmine: thats how i feel as well
(10:28:31 PM) spies8jasmine: i feel almost alone
(10:28:35 PM) spies8jasmine: because the people i talked to most
(10:28:38 PM) spies8jasmine: arent the ones i swapped it
(10:28:40 PM) spies8jasmine: with*
(10:28:55 PM) spies8owen: The "we caught a scum, you didn't" comments are un-needed. So are the comments we get in return (which I think are because you guys feel like you're being singled out)
(10:29:10 PM) spies8jasmine: yea, i do feel like that.
(10:29:23 PM) spies8owen: It's so counter-productive with how things are going.
(10:29:27 PM) spies8jasmine: and i also felt like we were jumped upon to get info out of, and didnt get much back for the longest time.
(10:29:42 PM) spies8jasmine: i feel like now, at this moment, i somewhat get the republicans a bit more.
(10:29:47 PM) spies8jasmine: and it makes me miss the demos so much more.
(10:30:36 PM) spies8owen: Even before this switch, I think we were more of an in IM kinda group.
(10:30:54 PM) spies8jasmine: you guys did more 1-1?
(10:30:56 PM) spies8jasmine: we did more group
(10:31:21 PM) spies8owen: Yeah -- at least much more for me. Our chat seems harder to keep up with, Brod even noticed that we switch topics and have multiple things going on at once too often.
(10:31:52 PM) spies8jasmine: oh ok.
(10:35:12 PM) spies8owen: I feel like once we've got more people on we should have some kinda discussion about this (or perhaps wait until after exile so we're not doing it in the middle of trying to figure things out).
(10:35:18 PM) spies8owen: Because it IS a problem.
(10:36:19 PM) spies8jasmine: We have so much to figure out at the moment
(10:36:21 PM) spies8jasmine: betwen the two immunities
(10:36:23 PM) spies8jasmine: the ultimate power
(10:36:25 PM) spies8jasmine: who to exile
(10:36:30 PM) spies8jasmine: if we should vote our person that is exiled out
(10:36:32 PM) spies8jasmine: or the other teams
(10:36:32 PM) spies8jasmine: etc
(10:36:33 PM) spies8jasmine: :-\
(10:37:09 PM) spies8owen: I know, such little time to do it now, too.
(10:37:11 PM) spies8owen: Fucking challenge.
(10:37:28 PM) spies8jasmine: I know.
(10:37:28 PM) spies8jasmine: LOL
(10:37:30 PM) spies8owen: What are your thoughts as of now?
(10:37:36 PM) spies8jasmine: I suspect Isaac
(10:37:37 PM) spies8jasmine: still
(10:37:41 PM) spies8jasmine: from back as a democrat.
(10:37:49 PM) spies8jasmine: And it's hard for me to hardcore suspect any republican.
(10:37:58 PM) spies8jasmine: But I did faintly suspect stephanie, kind of has faded
(10:38:03 PM) spies8jasmine: nobody else has really jumped up
(10:38:05 PM) spies8jasmine: so if i had to vote right now
(10:38:11 PM) spies8jasmine: id just go on issacc.
(10:38:37 PM) spies8jasmine: which is why i dont get why SO MANY of the republicans have hardcore be suspect of isaac/lawrence already. esp lawrence, because..i dont feel like i know u guys enough yet
(10:38:39 PM) spies8owen: Isaac/Lawrence are the two I feel like I need to talk to the most. My strongest suspect is on the other team (Jenny) >_> and I'm very unsure of Themba. I have trouble reading her because we get along really well. Makes it cloudy.
(10:38:45 PM) spies8jasmine: and there isnt threads on lawrence, like there is on isaac.
(10:39:52 PM) spies8owen: Lawrence has presented some stuff on his own. His half-FOS's and a few of his comments like "I'd vote for Themba or Isaac" despite finding you to be the most suspicious and having no info on Themba and not doing his studying on Isaac.
(10:40:12 PM) spies8owen: Oh... Isaac is on now? I don't see him in the chat.
(10:41:38 PM) spies8jasmine: He is?
(10:41:54 PM) spies8owen: Mmhmm, just about to IM him.
(10:42:10 PM) spies8owen: Trying to think of distinct things to ask him, because I really don't feel like I have any solid questions for him. Bleh.
(10:43:46 PM) spies8jasmine: ugh i need to chill, these republicans are bugging me.
(10:43:53 PM) spies8jasmine: I want to go back to the old teams. -_-
(10:45:28 PM) spies8owen: Honestly, I'd prefer the old teams right now too. I felt like I was figuring things out.
(10:45:46 PM) spies8owen: Then comes in 5 others that I have to read up about, and all the tension that there's been.
(10:45:51 PM) spies8jasmine: mmhmm
(10:45:56 PM) spies8jasmine: and i dont think us coming over here
(10:45:58 PM) spies8jasmine: was that great in itself
(10:46:04 PM) spies8jasmine: us 5, lilith wasnt even the same lilith
(10:46:13 PM) spies8jasmine: and then us, we werent hardcore in the center of things as much as like
(10:46:14 PM) spies8jasmine: claude
(10:46:14 PM) spies8jasmine: chance
(10:46:15 PM) spies8jasmine: cinnamyn
(10:46:17 PM) spies8jasmine: gertrude
(10:46:17 PM) spies8jasmine: mary
(10:46:25 PM) spies8jasmine: i think if we split those up a bit, things wuld be a lot diff
(10:46:31 PM) spies8jasmine: and i think if they asked lawrence an overall suspect list
(10:46:37 PM) spies8jasmine: he wouldnt have said all our names like he did
(10:46:51 PM) spies8jasmine: and i think they are just taking the fact that he commented ON THE DEMOCRATS HE CAME VOER WITH, and him not having hardcore things on us. is fine
(10:47:00 PM) spies8jasmine: because he prolly suspected gertrude and thigns like that
(10:47:05 PM) spies8jasmine: like claude vs chance was a huge thing over there
(10:47:09 PM) spies8jasmine: gertrude being herself, etc. :-\
(10:47:11 PM) spies8jasmine: ugh i need to chill
(10:47:51 PM) spies8jasmine: I hope he gets online
(10:47:51 PM) spies8jasmine: :-)
(10:49:09 PM) spies8owen: Lawrence had 2 of you on his FOS's before he came over here.
(10:49:49 PM) spies8owen: You and Brod.
(10:50:15 PM) spies8jasmine: I dont think his take on brod was that serious tho
(10:50:16 PM) spies8jasmine: was it?
(10:50:22 PM) spies8jasmine: from wat i rememmber, it wasnt.
(10:50:32 PM) spies8owen: BRODERICK
This is admittedly a gut feeling, one that I got while reading. Searchinf for evidence didn't bear much fruit. One thing to note about Brod is that he asks lots of questions, and good for him. But they always seem to be more about clarifying other peoples stances than trying to make his own. In fact, the only thing I could find that seemed mostly himself was this one line:
(10:50:34 PM) spies8jasmine: lawrence wasnt around much over there.
(10:50:50 PM) spies8owen: It seems serious to me.
(10:50:54 PM) spies8jasmine: hm, that does
(7/1/2010 1:42:56 AM) spies8owen: Hey Jas.
(1:43:11 AM) spies8jasmine: Hey Own!
(1:43:13 AM) spies8jasmine: Owen*
(1:43:15 AM) spies8jasmine: How are you?
(1:43:26 AM) spies8owen: Feeling indecisive. It's annoying.
(1:43:33 AM) spies8owen: You?
(1:44:12 AM) spies8jasmine: Same. i think I'm going to ultimately rest on voting isaac, but im so unsure even of that.
(1:44:19 AM) spies8jasmine: I feel like if i do
(1:44:27 AM) spies8owen: If I was voting on gut, I'd vote Isaac.
(1:44:28 AM) spies8jasmine: its just the easy thing to do.
(1:44:32 AM) spies8owen: The Themba/him stuff is starting to catch my eye.
(1:44:39 AM) spies8owen: (10:24:16 PM) spies8themba: it's all there in the thread he made. can't remember the name. and i am still suspicious of him. especially after i addressed his concerns and his responses to those. but i am just watching him at the moment.
(10:24:41 PM) spies8themba: oops. that was for isaac.
(1:44:45 AM) spies8owen: Doesn't that seem like it could be a faked cit thing?
(1:44:51 AM) spies8owen: Since the whole possible slip got picked up on.
(1:45:15 AM) spies8jasmine: What slip??
(1:45:23 AM) spies8owen: Isaac saying that he hadn't talked to Themba
(1:45:28 AM) spies8owen: In on of your early group chats.
(1:45:30 AM) spies8owen: one*
(1:45:40 AM) spies8owen: The thing that Larry posted in his thread.
(1:45:40 AM) spies8jasmine: Ohhh
(1:45:45 AM) spies8jasmine: And then that?
(1:45:49 AM) spies8jasmine: Meaning they have spoken?
(1:45:52 AM) spies8jasmine: is that wat u mean?
(1:45:55 AM) spies8owen: No, no.
(1:46:06 AM) spies8jasmine: its late where i am, sorry
(1:46:06 AM) spies8jasmine: lol
(1:46:30 AM) spies8owen: The whole possible slip thing got brought up last night (or yesterday) to Broderick by Larry. I don't know who else was there, but Broderick said it was posted.
(1:46:42 AM) spies8owen: So I'm thinking that perhaps Isaac and Themba found out about it
(1:47:07 AM) spies8owen: And had Themba/him had a fake citizen chat. (10:24:16 PM) spies8themba: it's all there in the thread he made. can't remember the name. and i am still suspicious of him. especially after i addressed his concerns and his responses to those. but i am just watching him at the moment.
(10:24:41 PM) spies8themba: oops. that was for isaac.
(1:47:11 AM) spies8owen: She sent that to me earlier.
(1:47:29 AM) spies8owen: Look at the pause in between. If I sent something to the wrong person, I would be all over that shit within a few seconds.
(1:47:37 AM) spies8owen: It looks possibly intentional.
(1:47:43 AM) spies8jasmine: hmm
(1:47:44 AM) spies8jasmine: ya same here
(1:47:46 AM) spies8jasmine: id know within seconds.
(1:47:53 AM) spies8jasmine: not 30 seconds
(1:47:54 AM) spies8jasmine: anyways
(1:47:56 AM) spies8jasmine: closer then that
(1:47:57 AM) spies8jasmine: lol
(1:48:08 AM) spies8jasmine: so you think they both might be spies, working together?
(1:48:18 AM) spies8owen: It's possible.
(1:48:25 AM) spies8owen: I think if one of them is, it's very likely the other is.
(1:48:38 AM) spies8owen: At first Isaac was suspect of Themba, now he's on her good side it seems.
(1:49:12 AM) spies8owen: And then there's the other vote we have to take into account >_>
(1:49:21 AM) spies8owen: With the democrats
(1:49:28 AM) spies8jasmine: yea.
(1:49:33 AM) spies8jasmine: I think though, this seems very interesting
(1:49:36 AM) spies8jasmine: the way you are putting it.
(1:49:37 AM) spies8owen: I have to do some reading on Magalie.
(1:49:52 AM) spies8jasmine: See, no. I don't think magalie is a good lynch. if that ends up to be there choice
(1:49:55 AM) spies8jasmine: id go with ours
(1:50:06 AM) spies8jasmine: magalie isnt on much, which gave me the vibe of uninterested citizen
(1:50:09 AM) spies8owen: I'm hoping it's Jenny. My suspect numero uno.
(1:50:11 AM) spies8jasmine: i think a spy wouldnt act the way she does.
(1:50:19 AM) spies8jasmine: Jenny would be interesting, ya.
(1:50:47 AM) spies8jasmine: So, if u dont mind answering this. just so im sure i did everything
(1:50:52 AM) spies8jasmine: we need to post who we want to give ultimate power to
(1:51:10 AM) spies8jasmine: send a pm with 3 names for getting immunty from imprisonment 4
(1:51:16 AM) spies8jasmine: and then post our vote in our confessional
(1:51:17 AM) spies8jasmine: right?
(1:52:06 AM) spies8owen: I believe you've got everything right there.
(1:52:20 AM) spies8jasmine: okay
(1:52:43 AM) spies8owen: Yeah, just double-checked. PM the 3 immunity choices.
(1:52:55 AM) spies8owen: I still don't even have those decided.
(1:53:34 AM) spies8jasmine: Me either.
(1:54:28 AM) spies8owen: I'm still thinking I'm gonna put Brod on there.
(1:55:06 AM) spies8owen: Unless anyone else is REALLY concerned about imprisonment.
(1:55:10 AM) spies8jasmine: My idea was: Yourself, Tina, and Brod.
(1:55:12 AM) spies8jasmine: Or
(1:55:15 AM) spies8jasmine: Lilith instead of Tina.
(1:55:20 AM) spies8jasmine: Cause she gives me citizen vibes.
(1:55:28 AM) spies8owen: I've got cit vibes from Lilith so far, too.
(1:55:52 AM) spies8jasmine: ya, she gives me the idea that she is going to be a very citizen person. so she'll be helpful for a bit, but will prolly be a target for imprisonment as well
(1:55:58 AM) spies8jasmine: So her getting immunity might be good
(1:56:39 AM) spies8owen: Good call. I couldn't actually think of anyone that seemed like an obvious imprisonment target.
(1:56:58 AM) spies8jasmine: i think because she is new as well
(1:57:02 AM) spies8jasmine: new and already giving those vibes
(1:57:10 AM) spies8jasmine: they may jump on her, because they wont think doc will save the new girl
(1:57:15 AM) spies8jasmine: but they dont want her around either
(1:57:15 AM) spies8jasmine: dunno
(1:57:35 AM) spies8owen: I've been really worried about the last two. When I got a vote at the first exile everyone was like "Owen?! OWEN?!"
(1:57:39 AM) spies8owen: I'm like "shut the fuck up, please."
(1:57:42 AM) spies8owen: In my head, of course.
(1:58:06 AM) spies8jasmine: lol. YOu might've been the save then.
(1:58:12 AM) spies8jasmine: I honestly didn't know much about you at all.
(1:58:22 AM) spies8jasmine: That you were so widly thought of as a citizen or anything like that.
(1:58:29 AM) spies8owen: I've considered it -- I feel like I was the other choice besides Nita.
(1:58:40 AM) spies8owen: Well, I was the other early Alexei contributer.
(1:58:48 AM) spies8owen: And actually stuck to voting to him unlike a certain somebody.
(1:59:22 AM) spies8owen: Nobody asks me many questions, either.
(1:59:23 AM) spies8owen: It's concerning.
(2:00:05 AM) spies8jasmine: yea, i dont have much to ask you at this point.
(2:00:11 AM) spies8jasmine: We will see I guess.
(2:01:04 AM) spies8owen: Oh yay, questions from Themba.
(2:01:17 AM) spies8jasmine: I need to look those over as well, in a second.