[19:42] spies8jenny: Hi Owen!
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[19:42] spies8tina: has joined the chat
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[19:42] spies8owen: Good evening.
[19:42] spies8zedekiah: howdy owen
[19:43] spies8themba: Hey Owen
[19:43] spies8themba: Hi Rondak too btw!
[19:44] spies8owen: How's everyone doing tonight? Besides nervous, heh.
[19:44] spies8themba: < not nervous
[19:44] spies8jenny: I'm doing good.
[19:44] spies8themba: < just curious
[19:44] spies8jenny: I think I became suspected all of a sudden so I'm less nervous now about this.
[19:44] spies8zedekiah: I've been a dead man walkin since day one, so whatever
[19:44] spies8themba: Yes you did Jenny. Apparently.
[19:45] spies8jenny: Still not quite sure how that happened, but I guess we'll find out eventually.
[19:45] spies8themba: Hopefully he gets his case up before he's imprisoned!
[19:46] spies8owen: LOL. I got a big chuckle out of Dane's post.
[19:46] spies8themba: Which one?
[19:46] spies8owen: About Zed possibly getting Imprisoned.
[19:46] spies8owen: As if that would ever happen.
[19:47] spies8themba: Hahaha. Me too.
[19:47] spies8themba: If it does however happen, it was me.
[19:47] spies8themba: So I could get around not having to write a response.
[19:47] spies8themba: Just so you all know.
[19:47] spies8owen: Hahahaha.
[19:47] spies8zedekiah: i reckon I am an unstopable superhero!
[19:47] spies8owen: I'll keep that in mind.
[19:47] spies8themba: Tyvm.
[19:48] spies8Nita: has joined the chat
[19:48] spies8jenny: Hi Ni-Ni!
[19:48] spies8Nita: Hola todos
[19:48] spies8zedekiah: Hello Nita
[19:49] spies8themba: Hi Nita
[19:50] spies8owen: Good evening Nita
[19:50] spies8Nita: No sign of Kiara today?
[19:51] spies8themba: LOL
[19:51] spies8themba: Not that I have seen.
[19:51] spies8Nita: I see Allan for 0.2 seconds
[19:51] spies8themba: Haha.
[19:51] spies8Nita: I no kiddin
[19:51] spies8themba: So he is not quitting then?
[19:51] spies8Nita: I see him
[19:51] spies8themba: Did he say hi?
[19:51] spies8Nita: No
[19:51] spies8themba: LOL
[19:51] spies8Nita: He run away faster than wild e coyote
[19:52] spies8themba: haha i bet he did.
[19:52] spies8Nita: Chasin after the roadrunner
[19:52] spies8themba: i love that cartoon.
[19:52] spies8jenny: I wonder what Sammy is going to do with Allan.
[19:52] spies8themba: And Kiara.
[19:52] spies8jenny: And Kiara.
[19:53] spies8Nita: Kiara, I no blame her. She was with a baby y I know when I have my baby I ain't gonna play no online games. Nothin but coocheecoo for Nita
[19:53] spies8themba: She had a baby, a boyfriend break up and was moving house? Holy s...
[19:53] spies8Nita: I no think it her baby
[19:53] spies8Nita: I think she was just playin with it
[19:53] spies8jenny: Wait, she had a break up?
[19:53] spies8themba: yep
[19:53] spies8jenny: Awwww.
[19:54] spies8Nita: Pobrecita. Poor girl
[19:54] spies8themba: the one time i got to talk to her.
[19:54] spies8themba: it is sad. she seems nice.
[19:54] spies8Nita: Si.
[19:54] spies8jenny: Clearly the spies bribed her boyfriend to dump her so that we'd have more inactives.
Unless she's a spy, then a cit bribed him.
[19:55] spies8Nita: Que terrible
[19:55] spies8themba: < wants to be offered a bribe
[19:55] spies8Nita: You no come here to make friends, you came to win the million dollars
[19:55] spies8themba: LOL! Love it.
[19:56] spies8jenny: That's silly. Why not come for friends AND the million!
[19:56] spies8themba: It would be interesting though.
[19:56] spies8jenny: I mean what good is a million if you have nobody to party with?
[19:56] spies8themba: Haha awe Jen!
[19:56] spies8owen: Hambone is getting my Final Tribal Council vote if I'm imprisoned tonight.
[19:56] spies8Nita: You buy the amigos
[19:57] spies8themba: Noted Owen, noted.
[19:57] spies8themba: Feel free to elaborate if you wish.
[19:57] spies8owen: Have a feeling he'll go on an immunity spree.
[19:57] spies8Nita: Okay, you buy amigos con beer y tequila
[19:57] spies8jenny: All those physical challenges?
[19:58] spies8themba: 6 minutes!
[19:58] spies8gabriel: so like hey guys ! D:
[19:58] spies8owen: He even wins the puzzle challenges. Gotta watch out for that guy.
[19:58] spies8jenny: Gabe-Gabe!
[19:58] spies8jenny:
[19:58] spies8owen: Evening Gabe
[19:58] spies8themba: LMFAO
[19:58] spies8jenny: 2 Minutes!
[19:58] spies8themba: And hi Gabe
[19:58] spies8gabriel: hiiii
[19:58] spies8zedekiah: do we do it in spies 8?
[19:58] spies8themba: Agh I hadn't refreshed!
[19:58] spies8themba: 2 minutes!
[19:59] spies8jenny: Why not just look at your clock?
[19:59] spies8jenny: One minute!
[19:59] spies8themba: cause i am on a different timezone
[19:59] spies8jenny: But the minutes would match right?
[19:59] spies8themba: nope. the work computer is all funky.
[19:59] spies8jenny: Oh.
[19:59] spies8jenny: That's a good reason then.
[20:00] spies8hambone: crap
[20:00] spies8themba:
[20:00] spies8hambone: ok
[20:00] spies8hambone: i posted what i had of my case
[20:00] spies8owen: kk, game talk must cease, I believe.
[20:00] spies8hambone: i didnt finish it
[20:00] spies8hambone: but i wanted it up there
[20:00] spies8gabriel: well
[20:00] spies8gabriel: here goes
[20:00] spies8owen: Good luck, all.
[20:00] spies8jenny: You did your best Hammy.
[20:00] spies8themba: Good luck guys!
[20:00] spies8hambone: yea
[20:01] spies8zedekiah: where is this takin place?
[20:01] spies8owen: It'll be posted in the "HQ" for Imprisonments.
[20:01] spies8owen: On the forum.
[20:03] spies8Nita: Tonight the Spies will claim their own private victory as they select someone to eliminate tonight. The Spies will select one person from either team.
[20:03] spies8Nita: So just 1 person tonight
[20:03] spies8themba: Good.
[20:04] spies8Nita: Instead of hittin refresh a million times, someone let me and the chat know when the next part be up?
[20:05] spies8jenny: It's usually 5 minutes in between each
[20:05] spies8Nita: Gracias
[20:05] spies8themba: Haha nice.
[20:07] spies8themba: part 2 is up
[20:08] spies8themba: Congrats Dane
[20:09] spies8hambone: stupid dane
[20:10] spies8jenny: A game show?
[20:10] spies8zedekiah: no, "Dale" is safe, kill dane!
[20:10] spies8jenny: I was kind of expecting to hear about silly political stuff between us for the first one. But I like game shows.
[20:11] spies8jenny: And LOL Sam just fixed the names.
[20:11] spies8owen: Hahaha.
[20:11] spies8jenny: I was wondering who Dale was supposed to be.
[20:12] spies8Nita: Parte tres
[20:13] spies8Nita: Kiara is safe, surprise
[20:13] spies8owen: Woo Kiara, you go girl.
[20:14] spies8owen: *slight cringe**
[20:14] spies8gabriel: lolllll
[20:16] spies8themba: Grats Kiara
[20:18] spies8savannah: has joined the chat
[20:18] spies8savannah: hiyaaa
[20:18] spies8savannah: =)
[20:18] spies8Nita: Themba y Zedekiah are safe
[20:18] spies8savannah: oh were not supposed to talk during imprisonment
[20:18] spies8savannah: is it going on now
[20:18] spies8savannah: =X
[20:18] spies8gabriel: not about the game at least D:
[20:19] spies8zedekiah: woo, now I reckon I can safely go throw up from the sight of that picture
[20:19] spies8jenny: We can talk during it, just not game talk.
[20:20] spies8Nita: Where it say that? I no see it
[20:20] spies8jenny: So no screaming out that soylent green is people, or that rosebud is his sled.
I'd have to take a look for the exact topic, but that's usually the rule around here.
[20:21] spies8hambone: what happens if u get imprisoned
[20:21] spies8jenny: Then you're out of the game.
[20:21] spies8hambone: no
[20:21] spies8hambone: i mean
[20:21] spies8hambone: can u say final words
[20:22] spies8jenny: Nope.
[20:22] spies8hambone: damn
[20:22] spies8hambone: what if ur online
[20:22] spies8hambone: u just gotta sign off?
[20:22] spies8jenny: Uh-Huh.
[20:22] spies8hambone: lame
[20:22] spies8zedekiah: eh?
[20:22] spies8jenny: Oh here we go.
[20:22] spies8zedekiah: I thought final words are 'llowed t' not be bout the game
[20:22] spies8jenny: If it is you that is Imprisoned, you are automatically eliminated from the game. You may say short goodbyes, but please do not reveal ANY game-related information or suspicions you may have. Please log off your AIM name as soon as you discover you are eliminated.
[20:22] spies8jenny: Ok, so goodbyes are ok
[20:22] spies8hambone: damn
[20:22] spies8jenny: My fault.
[20:22] spies8hambone: ok
[20:22] spies8hambone: that sucks tho
[20:23] spies8hambone: especially if its late in the game
[20:23] spies8hambone: all the ppl u have been talkin to all game
[20:23] spies8hambone: and u just have to sign off
[20:23] spies8zedekiah: ye are s'possed t' post a final confessional though
[20:23] spies8hambone: lol whats with the accent Z
[20:23] spies8jenny: Tini is safe!
[20:24] spies8jenny: There are a lot of republicans still left
[20:24] spies8themba: Grats Zed and Tina
[20:24] spies8themba: Yes.
[20:24] spies8savannah: congrats guyss =)
[20:24] spies8Nita: Allan, Rondak, Savannah, Gabriel, Hambone, Tina, Jenny y Stephanie
[20:25] spies8owen: aaaand Owen.
[20:25] spies8hambone: not owen!
[20:25] spies8owen: I'm somehow left off the vulnerable list.
[20:25] spies8hambone: hes a lame one
[20:25] spies8owen: But I haven't been announced safe.
[20:25] spies8jenny: 8 Republicans, and 3 Democrats.
[20:25] spies8savannah: =O
[20:25] spies8Nita: Maybe that's good?
[20:25] spies8hambone: its prolly gonna be one of us
[20:25] spies8owen: Probably just a simple mistake by Sam.
[20:25] spies8jenny: Maybe he forgot your picture? That might be a good sign.
[20:25] spies8hambone: oh
[20:25] spies8savannah: dont say that bone
[20:25] spies8hambone: yeah wheres owen
[20:26] spies8savannah: :-(
[20:26] spies8hambone: well its the truth :-(
[20:26] spies8jenny: Might want to tell Sammy when it's done, just so he can fix it later.
[20:26] spies8hambone: we arent just gonna vote out a spy and then they be cool with it
[20:26] spies8savannah: *sighhhhhhhh*
[20:26] spies8gabriel: hambone D:
[20:26] spies8themba: lol
[20:26] spies8savannah: they could be stupid
[20:26] spies8savannah: maybe
[20:26] spies8savannah: :-(
[20:26] spies8savannah: possibly
[20:26] spies8hambone: what
[20:27] spies8savannah: and not vote one of us out
[20:27] spies8savannah: :-(
[20:27] spies8savannah: :-)*
[20:27] spies8Nita: Why you say that? The democrats probably have good players, no?
[20:27] spies8savannah: you have to stay positive boneee
[20:27] spies8hambone: lol ok ok
[20:27] spies8jenny: He put your picture back!
[20:27] spies8jenny: It's vulnerable
[20:27] spies8gabriel: anyway
[20:27] spies8savannah: the dems probalby have good too
[20:27] spies8gabriel: when the next part gets posted
[20:27] spies8Nita: Gertrude too
[20:27] spies8hambone: lol owen u shouldnt have said anything
[20:27] spies8savannah: not been payin attentionn
[20:27] spies8Nita: She was missin
[20:27] spies8gabriel: dont say anything D:
[20:27] spies8owen: Must be a teacher thing.
[20:28] spies8gabriel: other than that its up D:
[20:29] spies8hambone: is the order the host is choosing to make ppl safe random or not
[20:29] spies8owen: He said that during the exile, I believe.
[20:29] spies8jenny: He says it's all random.
[20:30] spies8Nita: Read 299 times
[20:30] spies8jenny: Uses a number generator to decide.
[20:30] spies8jenny: I think the next one is going to be the last one.
[20:30] spies8jenny: It's usually only half an hour long.
[20:31] spies8Nita: New one up
[20:32] spies8Nita: Savannah y Jenny safe
[20:32] spies8themba: congrats Ladies
[20:32] spies8owen: 'grats!
[20:32] spies8jenny: Yaaaay!
[20:32] spies8hambone: damn
[20:32] spies8savannah: awww thanks :-)
[20:33] spies8stephanie: has joined the chat
[20:33] spies8themba: It could still be Allan!
[20:33] spies8themba:
[20:33] spies8jenny: Hi Stephi-kins!
[20:33] spies8themba: Hi Steph
[20:33] spies8stephanie: hi
[20:33] spies8hambone: lol that would be so dumb if it was allan =P
[20:33] spies8savannah: hey girlie
[20:33] spies8themba: But it would be funny.
[20:33] spies8hambone: def
[20:34] spies8hambone: funnier if it was kiara
[20:34] spies8themba: lol!
[20:34] spies8savannah: LOL
[20:34] spies8themba: i think it's going to be nita or owen.
[20:34] spies8themba:
[20:34] spies8owen: I think as much, too.
[20:34] spies8stephanie: maybe it will be one of those "C" dems
[20:34] spies8savannah: :-(
[20:35] spies8savannah: i will be very angry
[20:35] spies8themba: true. it could be a dem. but they seem all muddled atm.
[20:35] spies8gabriel: haha thatd be hilarious D:
[20:35] spies8hambone: it could be awohali
[20:35] spies8savannah: dont forget we still have a doctor right
[20:35] spies8savannah:
[20:35] spies8themba: i reckon it'll be a republican.
[20:35] spies8jenny: I hope it's nobody.
[20:35] spies8hambone: same
[20:35] spies8hambone: same to themba... and jenny
[20:35] spies8jenny: And that we have the bestest doctor ever.
[20:35] spies8stephanie: and shouldn't it be up by now
[20:36] spies8themba: we do get told who was saved? or just that there was a save?
[20:36] spies8savannah: no one will be lynched
[20:36] spies8savannah: :x
[20:36] spies8jenny: Imprisoned you mean?
[20:36] spies8owen: It's up.
[20:36] spies8savannah: yeah
[20:36] spies8Nita: OH GRACIAS AL DIOS
[20:36] spies8owen: !!!
[20:36] spies8Nita: QUE INCREIBLE
[20:36] spies8jenny: OH MY GOSH
[20:36] spies8zedekiah: heck yeah!
[20:36] spies8hambone: WOW!!!!!!!!
[20:36] spies8savannah: YAY
[20:36] spies8jenny: BEST
[20:36] spies8jenny: DOCTOR
[20:36] spies8jenny: EVER
[20:36] spies8rondak: Excellent!
[20:36] spies8hambone: AWESOME!!!!!!!!
[20:36] spies8themba: hahaha!!!!!!
[20:37] spies8gabriel: YES
[20:37] spies8stephanie: wtg doc!
[20:37] spies8savannah: OMG yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
[20:37] spies8themba: well done doctor!
[20:37] spies8jenny:
[20:37] spies8zedekiah: congrat doc an person who didn't die
[20:37] spies8savannah: doctor love <3
[20:37] spies8jenny: YAAAAAAY!
[20:37] spies8hambone: THATS FUCKIN CRAZY
[20:37] spies8hambone: who do u think it was? nita?
[20:37] spies8Nita: Estoy muy feliz. Good job doctor
[20:37] spies8jenny: Only the doctor knows.
[20:37] spies8jenny: BUt they better talk to them.
[20:37] spies8jenny: Since that person is sure to be a cit, and then the doctor will have someone to talk to!
[20:38] spies8zedekiah: how does a doc make someone jump anyways?
[20:38] spies8Nita: Jump?
[20:38] spies8themba: huh?
[20:38] spies8savannah: lmaoo zed
[20:38] spies8zedekiah: "
But then this contestant nimbly leaped off the side of their disappearing platform, out of certain doom in the pit below!
"
[20:38] spies8zedekiah: this is the doc's doing?
[20:38] spies8jenny: Yep!
[20:38] spies8hambone: its gotta be ya
[20:38] spies8jenny: DON'T QUESTION THE POWER OF THE DOCTOR.
[20:39] spies8jenny:
images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/3/8/128810499030343586.jpg[20:39] spies8hambone: lol
[20:39] spies8themba: that's awesome.
[20:40] spies8owen: Hahaha Jenny, love it.
[20:40] spies8jenny:
[20:40] spies8jenny: And he's so happy!
[20:40] spies8themba: lmfao
[20:40] spies8themba: yes yes he is
[20:41] spies8themba: looks like i have some addressing to do. see you a little later on.
[20:41] spieschatcamera: has left the chat
[20:42] spies8savannah: bye camy
[20:42] spies8stephanie: has left the chat
[20:42] spies8Nita: Chance has an immunity
[20:43] spies8Nita: He goin to be exiled on their side, no?
[20:43] spies8savannah: hmm
[20:43] spies8zedekiah: The question is, is it a spy role.....
[20:43] spies8jenny: As the result of a role, Chance has been made Immune from Exile 2. Democrats - you are not allowed to vote for him at Exile 2.
[20:44] spies8jenny: Hmmm. Exile protections have been spy roles before. It's possible.
[20:44] spies8hambone: where does it say that
[20:44] spies8jenny: It's in the main burg.
[20:44] spies8savannah: tis true
[20:44] spies8savannah: could be a spy role
[20:44] spies8savannah:
[20:44] spies8jenny: Usually night protections are cit roles, and day protections are spy roles, although Sam could be messing with us.
[20:45] spies8gabriel: i dont know
[20:45] spies8gabriel: wasnt chance under a lot of pressure???
[20:45] spies8savannah: apparently
[20:45] spies8Nita: Si
[20:45] spies8savannah: he could also be being framed im sure
[20:45] spies8hambone: he prolly protected himself
[20:45] spies8Nita: He say if Camilla was a citizen they should exile him next
[20:46] spies8jenny: We don't know for sure though if they can protect themselves or not.
[20:46] spies8jenny: That was Claude.
[20:47] spies8jenny: At least I think it was.
[20:47] spies8gabriel: yeah it was
[21:01] spies8savannah: tinaaa are you there, we kind of got cut short in convoo
[21:02] spies8tina: Yes. I am here. Just was doing some confessional stuff.
[21:02] spies8savannah: okayy =)
[21:16] spies8themba: response for Zed et al is up
[21:19] spies8savannah: wow roleclaim in dems
[21:19] spies8savannah: :x
[21:20] spies8rondak: HOW DARE YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER TEAM BEFORE OURS?
[21:20] spies8savannah: :-)
[21:20] spies8jenny: Claude is claiming to be the exile blocker role?
[21:20] spies8savannah: lol apparentlyy
[21:20] spies8rondak: *chuckles*
[21:21] spies8savannah: ronnie when did you get here
[21:21] spies8savannah: =-O
[21:21] spies8rondak: I've been off and on since halfway through imprisonment.
[21:22] spies8themba: lol @ the roleclaim
[21:26] spies8gabriel: why would he protect one of his biggest suspects from exile
[21:27] spies8savannah: lmao who knows
[21:27] spies8hambone: well with chance immune
[21:27] spies8hambone: he prolly feels vulnerable
[21:27] spies8hambone: no?
[21:27] spies8hambone: he had the next most votes last exile right
[21:27] spies8jenny: But he just made Chance immune, or so he claims.
[21:27] spies8hambone: yeah so he claims
[21:28] spies8hambone: either way its the dems. so i dont rly care
[21:28] spies8hambone: ill deal with them when i have to
[21:31] spies8themba: Hambone, I will be tackling your thoughts shortly.
[21:32] spies8hambone: okie dokie T
[21:32] spies8zedekiah: well themba, it's certainly interestin in a morbid sort o' way
[21:35] spies8zedekiah: but really, facts are facts.
[21:37] spies8zedekiah: Well folks, I think I'll head out early tonight since chat died
[21:37] spies8zedekiah: Glad t' say I see y'all in one peice later
[21:48] spies8tina: has left the chat
[21:52] spies8zedekiah: well leaving fer real this time, later
[21:52] spies8zedekiah: has left the chat
[22:11] spies8rondak: has left the chat
[22:18] spies8stephanie: has joined the chat
[22:23] spies8themba: done
[22:41] spies8hambone: i g2g guys
[22:41] spies8hambone: ttyl
[22:41] spies8Nita: Buenas noches Hambone
[22:41] spies8themba: see ya hambone
[22:41] spies8hambone: bye bye
[22:41] spies8hambone: has left the chat
[22:59] spies8Nita: We only got 2 nights till exile y I ain't gonna be round much in the evenin
[22:59] spies8Nita: So maybe we all talk now?
[22:59] spies8Nita: Or are people busy?
[23:00] spies8owen: I'm around -- just chatting a bit with the others.
[23:00] spies8themba: i will be up for a chat in 5 mins
[23:00] spies8themba: just finishing food
[23:01] spies8Nita: So maybe in 10 minutes we chat?
[23:01] spies8Nita: That okay with people?
[23:01] spies8owen: Good with me.
[23:01] spies8stephanie: hey nita
[23:01] spies8stephanie: ok with me
[23:01] spies8Nita: Hola Stephanie
[23:01] spies8Nita: Gracias
[23:01] spies8savannah: i might crashhh
[23:01] spies8savannah: but if not ill be here
[23:01] spies8Nita: You do what you gotta do Savannah
[23:01] spies8savannah: :-P
[23:01] spies8Nita: It's just a game
[23:02] spies8stephanie: owen? are you around?
[23:02] spies8jenny: I'm here at least.
[23:03] spies8owen: Yes ma'am, I am.
[23:04] spies8themba: i am back
[23:04] spies8stephanie: that was fast
[23:05] spies8themba: < hungry
[23:05] spies8themba: and exactly 5 minutes.
[23:11] spies8savannah: 6 minutes
[23:11] spies8savannah: :x
[23:11] spies8themba: 5!
[23:11] spies8jenny: This seems like a job for THE DRAMA BUTTON
[23:11] spies8Nita: 10
[23:11] spies8themba: lmfao
[23:11] spies8Nita: Hola todos, gracias for comin today
[23:11] spies8savannah: you welcome neeeeds :-)
[23:11] spies8themba: thank you for having us!
[23:12] spies8jenny:
[23:12] spies8themba: i think i ate too quick >.<
[23:12] spies8Nita: People not here: Kiara, Allan, Rondak, Zedekiah, Hambone, Dane, Tina
[23:12] spies8Nita: Y Alexei, que descansa en paz, RIP
[23:13] spies8Nita: So first thing
[23:13] spies8Nita: Kiara
[23:13] spies8Nita: No one here plannin on exilin her just for not showin up, si?
[23:13] spies8owen: Nope.
[23:13] spies8themba: no
[23:13] spies8stephanie: nope
[23:13] spies8owen: She'll be replaced.
[23:13] spies8savannah: nada
[23:14] spies8Nita: Espero que si
[23:14] spies8stephanie: i hope she'll be replaced
[23:14] spies8Nita: Anyone have anythin suspicious on her?
[23:14] spies8savannah: nopee
[23:14] spies8Nita: I ain't got anythin
[23:14] spies8jenny: She hasn't been around at all to have anything.
[23:14] spies8stephanie: other than being useless, nope
[23:14] spies8Nita: So we leavin her alone, final answer?
[23:14] spies8savannah: si seneora
[23:14] spies8owen: I think Sam is much less likely to even be leniant about inactivity since it's the last season, so I'm pretty sure she'll be replaced soon.
[23:14] spies8jenny: Might as well let her be replaced.
[23:14] spies8themba: agreed Nita.
[23:14] spies8Nita: Allan tambien - what about him?
[23:15] spies8themba: LOL
[23:15] spies8owen: I'd like to know what the hell is going on with that.
[23:15] spies8savannah: leave it to the judge
[23:15] spies8savannah: to give his order
[23:15] spies8savannah:
[23:15] spies8themba: * puts Allan on the Hard Core bus *
[23:15] spies8Nita: So we post askin Sam what's up with Allan maybe?
[23:15] spies8jenny: I have no idea what's happening wit him, I'm guessing Sam will replace him or kick him in the pants.
[23:15] spies8stephanie: idk, has anyone talked to him since he quit?
[23:15] spies8themba: Good idea.
[23:15] spies8Nita: No. He online for 2 seconds this afternoon
[23:15] spies8themba: Apparently he was around briefly.
[23:15] spies8Nita: I think he saw me y fled
[23:15] spies8themba: rofl
[23:15] spies8savannah: LOL probably
[23:15] spies8owen: Hahahaha, so true.
[23:16] spies8owen: But no, I'm not considering voting for him right now.
[23:16] spies8Nita: So anyone have a good reason to exile him, suspicious activity?
[23:16] spies8stephanie: i am willing to put him on hold for the time being
[23:16] spies8stephanie: and see what happens
[23:16] spies8owen: It's doubtful that Sam would pick someone that unreliable as scum,
[23:16] spies8Nita: Good, so we no have to worry bout that
[23:16] spies8Nita: Sam will take care of it
[23:16] spies8themba: nope.
[23:16] spies8owen: Yep.
[23:16] spies8jenny: I'm pretty sure it's mostly randomized, but either way, Sam will do something with that soon I would think.
[23:17] spies8Nita: So votin
[23:17] spies8Nita: Last time Allan vote for Owen
[23:17] spies8Nita: Y nobody know why at the time
[23:17] spies8owen: I think it's almost a guarantee that new Allan would be better than old Allan.
[23:17] spies8Nita: We all agree to at least post who we votin for y why?
[23:17] spies8savannah: you should hope so
[23:17] spies8owen: Yes.
[23:17] spies8owen: This isn't Survivor.
[23:17] spies8savannah: you knoww it
[23:17] spies8stephanie: i refuse to bold, but will post
[23:17] spies8Nita: Maybe sometime blindside happen
[23:18] spies8themba: Agreed.
[23:18] spies8themba: Who wants to go first?
[23:18] spies8Nita: But if people in general know what goin on, you talk about it beforehand with others, instead of keepin it to yourself y havin it be a surprise to everyone, like what Allan did
[23:18] spies8savannah: ususally blindsides dont work very well
[23:18] spies8Nita: I'm sayin I think sometimes a surprise be okay, but only if others know what you doin
[23:18] spies8themba: I've seen Cits blindside Cits. LOL. I agree with Sav.
[23:18] spies8Nita: LIke the people who you doin it with
[23:18] spies8gabriel: hey!
[23:18] spies8owen: The Silent Uprising worked out quite well.
[23:18] spies8owen: Oh right, no it didn't.
[23:18] spies8savannah: me too themba, me too
[23:18] spies8savannah: ;|
[23:19] spies8themba: LMAO
[23:19] spies8themba: WB Gabe
[23:19] spies8Nita: Gabriel, you okay with lettin Sam figure out what to do with Kiara y Allan?
[23:19] spies8jenny: It's Gabe-Gabe!
[23:19] spies8themba: Beiber!
[23:19] spies8owen: Baby, baby, baby, oh.
[23:19] spies8gabriel: im quite fine with that
[23:20] spies8themba: Hahaha
[23:20] spies8Nita: That leave 12 Republicans
[23:20] spies8Nita: There's bein lots of talk bout Zedekiah, si?
[23:21] spies8themba: Yes ma'am.
[23:21] spies8owen: Since day 2, yessum.
[23:21] spies8Nita: So true
[23:21] spies8Nita: I'm gonna be controversial y say I ain't interested in exilin him
[23:21] spies8savannah: it is true
[23:21] spies8savannah: lol nita
[23:21] spies8Nita: Es la verdad, it's true
[23:22] spies8themba: Sounds good.
[23:22] spies8Nita: But it ain't like I control the vote
[23:22] spies8gabriel: i dont think hes really someone worth exiling; in fact i daresay his post makes me question savannah on why she still think hes a good vote right now
[23:22] spies8Nita: So what you all think of Zedekiah? Spy o no?
[23:22] spies8stephanie: he's still on my watch list, but i am leaning cit
[23:22] spies8jenny: He leans spy enough to me that I wouldn't mind voting him.
[23:22] spies8themba: Spy
[23:22] spies8gabriel: im thinking cit.
[23:23] spies8owen: I'm not closing the door on it because of some of the things he's said -- and the voting situation is still a bit confusing to me.
[23:23] spies8savannah: why does it make you question me, gabriel
[23:23] spies8savannah: to be honest his post didnt show anything note worthy
[23:23] spies8owen: But I don't believe I'll be voting for him. A big thing I was worried about was his lack of input, but his post was solid.
[23:23] spies8gabriel: because i want to hear more on why exactly you think some of his statements are superficial
[23:23] spies8savannah: i think any one could have made those assumptions
[23:23] spies8themba: exactly.
[23:23] spies8Nita: Por ejemplo? Example?
[23:24] spies8themba: there was nothing groundbreaking in his thread.
[23:24] spies8Nita: Goin through what the hombre say
[23:24] spies8owen: I wasn't expecting anything groundbreaking. Tell me who has offered groundbreaking information?
[23:24] spies8themba: Alexei.
[23:24] spies8owen: SO TRUE.
[23:25] spies8Nita: Good one
[23:25] spies8themba: < Win.
[23:25] spies8savannah: i can give examples if you want, just tell which of his bullets
[23:25] spies8savannah: every single on of them is superficial and can be described as such -_-
[23:26] spies8Nita: He say anythin you disagree with then?
[23:26] spies8Nita: What he say on you
[23:26] spies8Nita: 1. Goes back and forth between friendly and very defensive
[23:26] spies8savannah: i dont find myself very defensive
[23:26] spies8themba: He forgot funny.
[23:26] spies8Nita: 2. Completely shifted suspicion away from Alexei, never seemed to seriously question him being town
[23:26] spies8Nita: This is a very good point
[23:26] spies8savannah: i did question alexei being town
[23:26] spies8Nita: Not obvious
[23:26] spies8savannah: and i did not shift suspicion from him.
[23:27] spies8Nita: When? When I present my points to you, you no question much
[23:27] spies8Nita: Y you did, at the exile chat
[23:27] spies8Nita: You got 2 people to switch to Zedekiah
[23:27] spies8jenny: I think Zeddy made them switch to Zeddy.
[23:27] spies8savannah: i believed zed to just be more suspicious.
[23:27] spies8owen: You seemed to freak out a bit before exile, Sav. Blood was boiling.
[23:27] spies8savannah: and all i did was point out his actions lol
[23:27] spies8themba: So basically what Dane did to Alexei the day before.
[23:27] spies8Nita: That ain't how I saw it
[23:27] spies8Nita: You freakin out
[23:28] spies8savannah: yes i got mad. not defensive however.
[23:28] spies8Nita: Ain't nothin to be defensive bout, since you weren't bein accused though
[23:28] spies8owen: I don't think being overdefensive is a scum-tell, btw.
[23:28] spies8savannah: people seemed to disregard other suspicions in light of the evidence the anagram alliance posted.
[23:28] spies8savannah: and it was annoying as zed continued to post nonsense
[23:28] spies8savannah: and no one even looked at it. o.o
[23:28] spies8owen: Nothing was disregarded. I thought long and hard about it, but Alexei GAVE UP.
[23:28] spies8Nita: [21:32] spies8savannah: and i also find it funny
[23:28] spies8Nita: [21:33] spies8savannah: that yall came up with this alexei case after zed was in major hot water
[23:29] spies8gabriel: hurp.
[23:29] spies8Nita: You still think that the truth?
[23:29] spies8savannah: not really since he was scum
[23:29] spies8Nita: But you thinkin Zedekiah was scum
[23:29] spies8savannah: but at the time i was questioning both alignments.
[23:29] spies8themba: brb
[23:29] spies8owen: A lot of the reason Alexei was first suspected was BECAUSE of the Zed thing.
[23:29] spies8savannah: the only way ill be able to stop suspecting zed is if he gives solid account for his behavior. which i dont think is possible.
[23:29] spies8owen: Of course it would come after or during.
[23:30] spies8Nita: So you think that Alexei was goin after Zedekiah in a fake way?
[23:30] spies8savannah: call it what you want, but his actions were not ones i would associate with a citizen
[23:30] spies8savannah: who nita.
[23:30] spies8savannah: owen?
[23:30] spies8Nita: You Savannah
[23:30] spies8savannah: what do you mean going after ina fake way
[23:30] spies8savannah: you mean scum-scum
[23:30] spies8Nita: What first got my attention bout Alexei was how he was goin so hard and mean on Zedekiah
[23:31] spies8owen: ^
[23:31] spies8Nita: I said "this hombre, Alexei, he out for blood"
[23:31] spies8jenny: I thought it had to do with him coming off as "bandwagoning"?
[23:31] spies8savannah: it could be possible. if zed kept making alot of stupid comments
[23:31] spies8owen: He smelled blood and he jumped on it.
[23:31] spies8Nita: I no know that at the time Jenny
[23:31] spies8savannah: alexei might have kept pressuring him knowing hed be a good lynch canidate.
[23:31] spies8Nita: I no think about him jumpin on cases till I talk to him y see his bad reasons for myself
[23:31] spies8savannah: and then it would look like alexei was a cit.
[23:31] spies8Nita: At the time I see him makin a case on Zedekiah
[23:32] spies8Nita: So you thinkin on the second day of the game, Alexei put pressure on his scum friend to make him make slips that would make everyone think he was suspicious?
[23:32] spies8jenny: Don't forget that neither of them ended up voting each other in the end.
[23:33] spies8gabriel: keep talking savannah i love you for it <3 hell alex ended up voting allan
[23:33] spies8Nita: Alexi voted Dane
[23:33] spies8jenny: Zeddy picked Allan
[23:33] spies8savannah: i dont know nita. im trying to think up possibilites. and clearly as actions have shown, alexei and zed arent the smartest people in the bunch.
[23:33] spies8Nita: Es la verdad, si, Savannah I agree
[23:33] spies8Nita: My question es
[23:33] spies8tina: has joined the chat
[23:33] spies8jenny: Hi Tini!
[23:33] spies8tina: Hello.
[23:33] spies8Nita: You look at the chat, you see Alexei askin all kinds of questions to trip Zedekiah up
[23:33] spies8jenny:
[23:33] spies8savannah: yes.
[23:33] spies8Nita: You see him bein mean to Zedekiah, you see him makin fun of him
[23:34] spies8Nita: You think that 24 hours into the game, Alexei decide to do this in a group chat in front of everyone - to another spy?
[23:34] spies8savannah: your question is, would scum do that to their buddy?
[23:34] spies8savannah: that is the problem ive been having in my head too.
[23:34] spies8Nita: Okay
[23:34] spies8Nita: I ain't askin you to agree with me
[23:34] spies8Nita: Just seein where I'm comin from
[23:34] spies8jenny: Yes. They totally would. The question is if it happened here.
[23:35] spies8savannah: i understand where you are coming from :-)
[23:35] spies8Nita: Bien
[23:35] spies8jenny: If someone looks dead in the water, I wouldn't doubt it happening at all.
[23:35] spies8Nita: I wasn't there, but Zedekiah looked okay at the beginnin & 20 times more pathetic after Alexei was done with him
[23:36] spies8jenny: Zeddy hasn't ever really helped himself either in these chats.
[23:36] spies8Nita: Tina y I talk about that chat that night
[23:36] spies8Nita: Bout how Alexei tryin to make a case outta nothin
[23:36] spies8owen: Same here. Tina was the one that first showed me the chat.
[23:36] spies8Nita: That's how it started, si?
[23:36] spies8jenny: I was there for it, I remember that.
[23:37] spies8themba: back
[23:37] spies8tina: Right, it expanded later on but it was originally that type of thing.
[23:37] spies8owen: If I remember correctly, Jenny was the first to question Zed, but she didn't bash him like Alexei.
[23:37] spies8themba: That's how I recalled it, yes.
[23:37] spies8jenny: I just asked him what he was doing after roles went out.
[23:37] spies8themba: Then Alexei took over.
[23:37] spies8savannah: also i find it funny in that statement of zeddys that i never questioned alexei to be town
[23:37] spies8gabriel: yep. jenny was the first one to bring up zeke
[23:37] spies8owen: Yep, nothing wrong with asking that.
[23:37] spies8jenny: And it just became crazy when he couldn't give a straight answer.
[23:38] spies8themba: ...
[23:38] spies8savannah: i had answered his question that he sent me
[23:38] spies8themba: LOL
[23:38] spies8savannah: and was like, i think im leaning cit not sure
[23:38] spies8savannah: lmao
[23:38] spies8savannah: so not sure where he got that
[23:38] spies8themba: hehehehe
[23:38] spies8Nita: Savannah, what es your side to that? Cause I ain't seen you question Alexei neither
[23:38] spies8themba: I was so tempted to respond to his thoughts with that.
[23:38] spies8savannah: my side of what :-)
[23:38] spies8owen: Does anyone recall Savannah questioning Alexei or no?
[23:38] spies8Nita: spies8Savannah: also i find it funny in that statement of zeddys that i never questioned alexei to be town
[23:39] spies8savannah: i talked to alexei that day
[23:39] spies8savannah: in im
[23:39] spies8savannah: that was when i questioned him
[23:39] spies8gabriel: oh??
[23:39] spies8savannah: si.
[23:39] spies8Nita: She say si
[23:39] spies8gabriel: uhuh.
[23:39] spies8Nita: I laughin
[23:39] spies8gabriel: we never heard of any of this before savannah
[23:39] spies8tina: What were your conclusions from that conversation?
[23:39] spies8owen: Questioned him as in thought he was scum, I think she means.
[23:39] spies8gabriel: did alexei say anything that struck you as odd???
[23:39] spies8Nita: Ella habla espanol tambien
[23:40] spies8savannah: why would they be necessay, since i had thought of him more cit
[23:40] spies8savannah: my conclusions were that i was leaning cit
[23:40] spies8savannah: :-\
[23:40] spies8owen: Because there was evidence against him. You have said people ignored evidence against Zed, I believe. Doesn't it work both ways?
[23:40] spies8savannah: not confirmed. but i thought zed was more spyish.
[23:40] spies8Nita: Why? You talk bout his suspicions of Dane? Zedekiah?
[23:40] spies8savannah: i read the evidence on alexei.
[23:40] spies8tina: Ok. Was that ever questioned too greatly untill his reveal?
[23:41] spies8savannah: was what questioned greatly
[23:41] spies8tina: Him being a citizen or spy.
[23:41] spies8tina: If so, when and why.
[23:42] spies8savannah: did i ever question it? well i was gone when all this stuff about alexei surfaced for the most part
[23:42] spies8savannah: i came in sunday afternoon.
[23:42] spies8gabriel: uh... vannah
[23:42] spies8Nita: We talked bout it before I posted the case
[23:42] spies8savannah: so that is why i asked alexei his stance on the case
[23:42] spies8savannah: yes gabriel.
[23:42] spies8gabriel: ... ..................... most the stuff about alexei surfaced looong before then
[23:42] spies8savannah: i dont think so?
[23:42] spies8savannah: let me check the burg.
[23:43] spies8Nita: I post case on Alexei at 3:21 cst
[23:43] spies8owen: Saturday, right?
[23:43] spies8Nita: Si
[23:43] spies8savannah: yes i was gone all saturday...
[23:43] spies8Nita: No chica
[23:43] spies8gabriel: i thought most the stuff on alexei happened saturday
[23:43] spies8tina: Stuff had been starting before that point, but that was the first public part.
[23:43] spies8savannah: and i came back sunday.
[23:43] spies8savannah: i left saturday
[23:43] spies8savannah: at 3:00
[23:43] spies8savannah: PM
[23:43] spies8savannah: eastern
[23:43] spies8savannah: to go to my family...
[23:43] spies8Nita: Si, we talk bout Alexei at 1 pm cst
[23:43] spies8savannah: okay.
[23:43] spies8jenny: I can confirm that, we talked right up until she left.
[23:43] spies8Nita: I tell you basically what I post in the case
[23:43] spies8savannah: what did we say, refresh my memory.
[23:44] spies8savannah: right but i didnt read your case
[23:44] spies8savannah: or tinas
[23:44] spies8jenny: You were talking to Gabe-Gabe about something, he forgot to respond to you.
[23:44] spies8Nita: I tell you what I put in the case
[23:44] spies8savannah: until sunday...
[23:44] spies8gabriel: yeah i do that sometimes
[23:44] spies8jenny: And I told you about Ni-Ni and Allan having a spat.
[23:44] spies8savannah: and then
[23:44] spies8jenny: And then you had to leave.
[23:44] spies8savannah: sunday votes were due...so i wanted alexeis POV.
[23:45] spies8Nita: Savannah, why you thinkin Alexei was a citizen?
[23:45] spies8savannah: one sec, pulling up the conversation i had with him.
[23:47] spies8savannah: okay so he was telling me how he felt pressured in the chat and when he left it he had differing views on zed
[23:47] spies8savannah: i kind of understood this as there was alot of commotion going on in the chat
[23:47] spies8Nita: The chat where Zed first talk bout the logoff thing?
[23:47] spies8stephanie: most of it caused by alex
[23:47] spies8savannah: i thought it was possible that he felt like this.
[23:47] spies8savannah: si, nita
[23:48] spies8Nita: So he come out of the chat thinkin Zedekiah is a spy
[23:49] spies8Nita: Then what?
[23:49] spies8savannah: then i guess he thought he was more citizen like
[23:49] spies8Nita: Si, anythin else?
[23:49] spies8savannah: i did think it was weird that he had three suspects in the course of like two days
[23:50] spies8savannah: thats why i said i didnt suspect him
[23:50] spies8savannah: did*
[23:50] spies8Nita: Alexei?
[23:50] spies8savannah: si
[23:50] spies8Nita: Okay, so you question Alexei y he convince you he's town?
[23:51] spies8savannah: no he did not convince me
[23:51] spies8savannah: as i just said
[23:51] spies8savannah: i was never convinced he was town.
[23:51] spies8savannah: i did thing he seemed more citizen like
[23:51] spies8savannah: than zed
[23:51] spies8Nita: Still confused, what he say to make you think that?
[23:52] spies8Nita: Like when I talk to him, I see him making cases outta nothin y lies y exaggeratin and I say "he seem like a spy"
[23:52] spies8savannah: it wasnt all that he said. alexei had at least posted suspicions and was talking about his ideas.
[23:52] spies8savannah: zed had posted nothing at the time
[23:52] spies8savannah: and was talking gibberish in the chats.
[23:52] spies8savannah: i thought that was warrant enough for my vote toward alexei.
[23:52] spies8savannah: zed*
[23:53] spies8Nita: So you read the case, you see the argument that the suspicions y ideas Alexei postin be lies, mistakes, y exaggerations
[23:53] spies8savannah: yep
[23:53] spies8savannah: but i say to myself
[23:53] spies8Nita: Y you still think that's better, more townlike, than Zed y his gibberish?
[23:53] spies8savannah: hey he posted something
[23:53] spies8savannah: zed didnt even post anything
[23:53] spies8savannah: really
[23:53] spies8Nita: So lies is better than nothin?
[23:53] spies8savannah: nor has he said anything useful in the chat. he goes off talking about things that dont even pertain to conversation
[23:53] spies8gabriel: vannah butting in... o wait nita got to it already
[23:54] spies8savannah: no nita, lies are not better than nothing
[23:54] spies8savannah: lmao i feel like im kind of being the target of this when i was not the only one to vote for zed nor be the only onesuspicious of him.
[23:54] spies8Nita: So why you no think Alexei with his lies be more suspicious than Zedekiah with his gibberish
[23:54] spies8Nita: Just tryin to understand, I think we all got questions fo reveryone
[23:54] spies8Nita: Sorry to hog the chat
[23:55] spies8Nita: My family, they say I talk too much sometimes
[23:55] spies8savannah: lol cant say there is a particular good reason, lies are obviously not good at all.
[23:56] spies8savannah: however, in the end i went with who i had more of my own suspicions of
[23:56] spies8Nita: Anyone else askin Savannah questions?
[23:57] spies8themba: Are you still planning to vote Zed this Episode Sav?
[23:57] spies8savannah: im not sure yet, themba
[23:57] spies8Nita: You still think he postin gibberish?
[23:57] spies8themba: kk
[23:57] spies8gabriel: savannah one last question for you.
[23:57] spies8themba: LMFAO
[23:57] spies8savannah: he kind of stopped posting gibberish
[23:57] spies8tina: Are you still leaning that way?
[23:57] spies8savannah: finally.
[23:57] spies8Nita: Just askin bout her standards
[23:57] spies8savannah: but im not sure.
[23:57] spies8gabriel: 'd you ever talk with zed in private about his suspicions?? and was he less confusing there?
[23:58] spies8savannah: if you consider lack luster posts that generalize concepts, gibbberish, than yes
[23:58] spies8themba: [09:23] spies8themba: hiya zed. gotten in trouble for your mass chat posting yet?
[09:23] spies8zedekiah: nope, jus the opposite suprisinly
[09:23] spies8themba: what did he say?
[09:24] spies8zedekiah: eh? wait sorry, got confused fer a second
[09:24] spies8zedekiah: sam hasn't said a thing t' me all game
[23:58] spies8themba: he hasn't stopped the gibberish.
[23:58] spies8savannah: nope not in private
[23:59] spies8savannah: in public chat, yes
[23:59] spies8savannah: every conversation ive had with him in private is a dud :-(
[23:59] spies8stephanie: yes, jenny and i watched Z prove that alex was a spy, last night
[23:59] spies8themba: i will second that.
[23:59] spies8stephanie: it was fun
[00:00] spies8Nita: I saw that, y again bein controversial I no think it was that bad
[00:01] spies8Nita: But that just be my opinion
[00:01] spies8stephanie: i agree. i do think that examining alex is worthwhile.
[00:01] spies8Nita: Stephanie, you examine Alexei?
[00:02] spies8stephanie: not in great depth
[00:02] spies8stephanie: i've certainly looked back at my few conversations with him
[00:03] spies8Nita: When I tell you my points on Alexei you think his reasons for suspectin Dane were okay
[00:03] spies8Nita: They be your points after all
[00:03] spies8Nita: You say you think Dane suspicious for wantin to vote Themba
[00:03] spies8stephanie: i agreed that alex looked suspicious
[00:03] spies8savannah: ~updating confessional~
[00:03] spies8Nita: You still think he suspicious?
[00:04] spies8stephanie: but it was hard for me to vote alex for agreeing with me
[00:04] spies8stephanie: i still think dane is a useless ass
[00:04] spies8Nita: He only agree with you on one point though
[00:04] spies8Nita: There several points on his case, no?
[00:04] spies8stephanie: but i am thinking that alex more or less cleared him
[00:05] spies8Nita: I think so too but who know
[00:05] spies8stephanie: dane told me yesterday that alex was the one who made the HQ slip
[00:05] spies8stephanie: he clearly doesn't know what is going on -- or care to know
[00:05] spies8stephanie: i think he is useless
[00:06] spies8owen: The Least Likely To Get Night Killed Aware of Spies 8 goes to...
[00:06] spies8Nita: He do need to step up I think
[00:06] spies8owen: *drumroll*
[00:06] spies8Nita: Kiara
[00:06] spies8owen: Oh, crap.
[00:06] spies8owen: Sorry, I forgot the nominees.
[00:06] spies8owen: Dane and Kiara will be sharing the award.
[00:06] spies8Nita: People here think you smart Stephanie
[00:06] spies8Nita: Who you lookin at this exile?
[00:07] spies8stephanie: i disagree with you nita
[00:07] spies8stephanie: i think the spies voted for alex
[00:07] spies8Nita: Who say I no think that?
[00:08] spies8savannah: kbacks :-)
[00:08] spies8stephanie: the dumbest think i ever heard?
[00:08] spies8Nita: Where I say "all 6 people who voted Alexei are cits"?
[00:08] spies8Nita: No I no say that
[00:08] spies8Nita: I say you can't guess what the spies do y use that as evidence
[00:08] spies8Nita: You think Hambone suspicious, you do it because he do something suspicious, not because "of the 6 Alexei voters he seem the most questionable"
[00:09] spies8Nita: That an example
[00:09] spies8stephanie: i think it was clear that the majority of people were voting alex
[00:09] spies8stephanie: and that it was a clear bussing situation
[00:09] spies8stephanie: and i think there has to be spies on the alex vote
[00:09] spies8owen: I never felt it was completely certain Alexei would go, especially when votes started to change.
[00:10] spies8stephanie: and i wasn't around on sunday, so i don't know, but on saturday, it was looking pretty clear to me that alex was going
[00:11] spies8Nita: You can't use that as evidence chica
[00:11] spies8Nita: That be your imaginatino
[00:11] spies8Nita: You makin up scenarios. You can't act on that
[00:11] spies8owen: I think people switch a lot in early exiles. They usually go to the last second.
[00:11] spies8stephanie: let me go look at the voting thread....
[00:11] spies8owen: It's hard to tell what will happen.
[00:13] spies8themba: I gotta agree with Steph, it looked pretty clear it was going to be Alexei going. At least by the time I started the tally.
[00:13] spies8gabriel: yeah i think its a possibility
[00:13] spies8savannah: when i came back it seemed like alexei would be going, but you never know what can happen to a vote
[00:13] spies8owen: "she bandwagons Alexei when it’s obvious he’ll be lynched"
This one is my personal favourite. For 2 reasons. First reason, it was never obvious he was going to be lynched. People change votes / thoughts right up until the very end. Many people didn't and hadn't posted their votes for Alexei or anyone else when I posted mine. Secondly, I gathered the information Nita and others had posted, and had a little chat with him in the Group chat. Let me refresh your memory:
[00:13] spies8jenny: Sorry, fell asleep for a moment.
[00:14] spies8savannah: lmaoo jenny
[00:14] spies8owen: That was from your post in Zed's thread, Themba.
[00:14] spies8Nita: I ain't arguin that it wasn't clear who was goin
[00:14] spies8Nita: I am sayin unless you a spy, you no know what the spies did
[00:14] spies8stephanie: so when themba posted at 6:11 on sunday, the total was 7 for alex, 1 for allan, 2 for dane, 1 for nita, and 2 for Z
[00:15] spies8stephanie: that looks pretty clear to me
[00:15] spies8owen: But she says it was never obvious?
[00:15] spies8savannah: you also cant assume there wasnt a wagon, nita.
[00:15] spies8owen: And votes change all the time.
[00:15] spies8themba: It still looked pretty obvious though - but you can never be certain.
[00:15] spies8owen: Gotcha.
[00:15] spies8savannah: i think like ive been saying you always must consider the possibility.
[00:15] spies8Nita: I ain't assumin nothin. You all are assumin
[00:15] spies8themba: Unless there was a blindside.
[00:15] spies8themba: Big ass blindside.
[00:16] spies8Nita: You all are assumin there be a spy in the Republicans who vote Alexei, y I'm sayin, maybe, maybe not, there ain't no way any of us but the spies can know that
[00:16] spies8themba: Agreed Nita. But we still need to keep it in mind surely.
[00:16] spies8savannah: obviously. and what themba just said.
[00:17] spies8Nita: No. What we all need to do is vote the most suspicious person, not "the most suspicious person who vote Alexei"
[00:17] spies8stephanie: and i still think that not only should we keep in mind, but that it is likely
[00:17] spies8savannah: yes but in doing so (looking at alexei voters)
[00:17] spies8savannah: it is def. clear there are people that didnt have clear cases on him...
[00:17] spies8savannah: as summarized in the burg.
[00:17] spies8Nita: I'm sayin you look at everyone n figure out the most suspicious. You shouldn't try to pick out of a smaller group
[00:18] spies8gabriel: yeah but the point is what nita said; when i brought it up i meant it as only something to keep in mind and as a reason to keep your eye on the alex voters; just because they voted a aspy doesn't mean they're automatically clear. especially a spy day one.
[00:18] spies8stephanie: i agree nita
[00:18] spies8savannah: but ones voting is important in determining if they are suspicious or not, no?
[00:19] spies8Nita: Si, of course. Votin history es muy importante
[00:19] spies8Nita: But tryin to make a group outta 1 criteria y diggin in there ain't the way to find spies
[00:20] spies8owen: I don't think you should get TOO wrapped up in just voting though.
[00:20] spies8Nita: I think we all get what I'm tryin to say
[00:20] spies8themba: We do
[00:20] spies8savannah: yeah
[00:20] spies8Nita: Y what the people sayin there probably a bussin spy are tryin to say
[00:20] spies8owen: Citizens have had terrible voting history in the past. It happens. So yeah, it's important, but you have to focus on the bigger picture.
[00:21] spies8Nita: So stephanie back to the question
[00:21] spies8Nita: Who you lookin at this exile?
[00:21] spies8owen: Who is suspicious based on actions and inconsistencies, not just voting
[00:21] spies8savannah: agree, owen
[00:21] spies8stephanie: well, as i started to say, i am looking at who among the alex voters look like spies to me
[00:22] spies8stephanie: and my top candidates are owen and rondak
[00:22] spies8owen: Me? Por que.
[00:22] spies8gabriel: i dont think its owen simply because i know he contributed to tina and nitas case
[00:22] spies8owen: You and I spoke quite a bit about Alexei. I think you called him just a "busy little beaver."
[00:23] spies8stephanie: owen, because he has said that it didn't look like alex was going
[00:23] spies8owen: ...Themba has said it wasn't certain too.
[00:23] spies8stephanie: he's been trying to say that it was not an obvious bussing situation
[00:23] spies8owen: Votes were coming off of him towards the end. It would be stupid to assume he's going.
[00:24] spies8Nita: Why is not doubtin the vote tally suspicious?
[00:24] spies8owen: I had legit reasons and pointed them out to others. Rondak I can understand, as his main reasoning to me was that he was hinting at a role claim.
[00:24] spies8stephanie: so when themba posted at 6:11 on sunday, the total was 7 for alex, 1 for allan, 2 for dane, 1 for nita, and 2 for Z
[00:24] spies8Nita: Sorry, why is doubtin the vote tally suspicious
[00:25] spies8owen: Last season there were tons of votes on Perry.
[00:25] spies8stephanie: that still looks obvious to me
[00:25] spies8owen: Marcus almost left last second.
[00:25] spies8owen: Don't assume shit.
[00:25] spies8gabriel: except there was a spy on the perry wagon... 'xcept that spy was a last minute additionto it
[00:25] spies8themba: lol really?
[00:26] spies8gabriel: really
[00:26] spies8savannah: yep.
[00:26] spies8themba: haha
[00:26] spies8themba: awesome
[00:26] spies8stephanie: and actually i think owen voted pretty early for alex, so this is probably all nonsense
[00:26] spies8owen: I was on Alexei as long as Tina and Nita, perhaps slightly after if Tina showed the chat to Nita first.
[00:26] spies8stephanie: but his saying that it wasn't obvious is suspect to me
[00:26] spies8owen: I was on him early and stuck to it.
[00:27] spies8jenny: I need to head to sleep, since I stayed up rather late last night. I'm going to leave AIM on so that I can keep a log of this chat that I can post in the morning, but I'm going to be getting some sleep. I'll read up what I missed when I get a chance.
[00:27] spies8gabriel: night jenny D:
[00:27] spies8owen: In my experience, early exiles are not obvious. Themba has said the same.
[00:27] spies8savannah: byeeee girllll! :-D
[00:27] spies8Nita: Buenas noches Jenny
[00:27] spies8owen: Night, Jenny.
[00:27] spies8jenny: Because I'm already falling asleep here, so I might as well be in a bed.
[00:27] spies8jenny: Night everyone!
[00:28] spies8themba: Night Jen
[00:28] spies8themba: "Likely" is probably the best term for the Alexei exile.
[00:28] spies8owen: But for sure? Never.
[00:28] spies8owen: I like how not being naive makes me suspect.
[00:29] spies8stephanie: rondak i suspect
[00:29] spies8themba: Agreed. Can never be sure. Like an alliance. Etc etc.
[00:29] spies8Nita: I still no understand how doubtin the vote tally is suspicious?
[00:29] spies8stephanie: because on the 16th, he asked me what bussing was
[00:29] spies8stephanie: and then he asked again last night
[00:29] spies8owen: He brought it up TWICE?
[00:29] spies8savannah: really =-O
[00:29] spies8owen: Interesting...
[00:29] spies8savannah: now that is strange.
[00:30] spies8stephanie: i wonder why he's trying to say he doesn't know what bussing is
[00:30] spies8owen: Like trying to make a point the second time that he still didn't understand it.
[00:30] spies8savannah: also, if someone has time to roleplay i feel like they could scumhunt
[00:30] spies8stephanie: it could be that he is some noob
[00:30] spies8savannah: but maybe thats just me
[00:30] spies8stephanie: but
[00:30] spies8savannah: =X
[00:30] spies8savannah: and not lurk in chat rooms...
[00:30] spies8Nita: I talk to him today y I think he new to mafia
[00:30] spies8Nita: Question
[00:31] spies8Nita: How many here have a game conversation con el?
[00:31] spies8Nita: With ROndak?
[00:31] spies8savannah: what do you mean by
[00:31] spies8themba: Do you mean a IM with him?
[00:31] spies8savannah: game conversation
[00:31] spies8gabriel: i just kinda forget hes there i.e. not often
[00:31] spies8Nita: I mean a good conversation with talk bout suspects etc
[00:31] spies8savannah: i will check
[00:31] spies8themba: Not me.
[00:31] spies8savannah: i dont think soo
[00:31] spies8Nita: Owen? Tina? Stephanie?
[00:32] spies8owen: A lot of our conversations end up with us making each other laugh.
[00:32] spies8owen: I'd say more non-game stuff than game.
[00:32] spies8stephanie: checking...
[00:32] spies8owen: He just *nods* at me a lot.
[00:32] spies8Nita: Here why I ask
[00:32] spies8Nita: He tell me today there only three people he talk to individually, most people not at all
[00:33] spies8savannah: i had minor conversation
[00:33] spies8Nita: I no think that's a lie
[00:33] spies8Nita: I think he really be new y have no idea what to do in this game, with mafia
[00:33] spies8owen: I think two of them would be myself and Jenny
[00:33] spies8owen: from my conversations with him.
[00:33] spies8owen: He says she offers him advice.
[00:33] spies8tina: Let me look it up, it is barely anything with elfman though.
[00:33] spies8Nita: Well then I no think he pretendin, if he really ain't talkin to people
[00:33] spies8savannah: we talked about the game and then randomly he stopped talking
[00:33] spies8savannah: so :-\
[00:33] spies8stephanie: i did have one conversation with him where he quizzed me about why i thought dane suspect
[00:34] spies8tina: I have talked with him privately once.
[00:34] spies8savannah: [23:18] spies8rondak: Didn't he get in a bit of scuffle last night?
[23:20] spies8savannah: uh he and themby are arguingg
[23:20] spies8savannah: it seems
[23:20] spies8rondak: Because Themba is suspicious for suggesting a non-exile?
[23:21] spies8savannah: well cause he voted for her
[23:22] spies8savannah: i guess and themby is saying that its not fair if she was just bringing up a valid point
[23:22] spies8rondak: She certainly was not the first to suggest it, no.
[23:23] spies8savannah: i dont think its enough cause to vote for her :
[23:23] spies8savannah:
[23:23] spies8rondak: *nods*
[00:34] spies8stephanie: and he says the cases on Z and alex are much stronger
[00:34] spies8savannah: thats it.
[00:34] spies8Nita: Is he a spy with no idea what to do? Maybe. But I doubt it
[00:35] spies8Nita: But I no think he fakin not knowin how to play the game
[00:35] spies8themba: lol
[00:35] spies8Nita: So if that means askin bout bussin twice, we all gotta be patient
[00:35] spies8owen: He seemed clueless about how to even vote in the mafia mini opening night.
[00:35] spies8owen: I tend to believe that he's new.
[00:35] spies8savannah: he probably is.
[00:36] spies8Nita: Everyone here agree to be patient with the guy, help him out?
[00:36] spies8savannah: does that mean he can be completely eliminated from our suspect lists-no.
[00:36] spies8Nita: No
[00:36] spies8Nita: But ain't nothin wrong with bein nice y helpful
[00:36] spies8owen: Of course not.
[00:36] spies8themba: No
[00:36] spies8themba: I will be helpful
[00:36] spies8stephanie: he's certainly going to stay on my suspect list
[00:36] spies8savannah: however
[00:36] spies8savannah: i doubt a new player
[00:36] spies8owen: But I've always been chill with him. Pressuring new players sometimes doesn't work out too well. *cough*Irulan*cough*
[00:37] spies8Nita: Make him welcome y okay to figure things out?
[00:37] spies8savannah: would know to vote for his spy buddy
[00:37] spies8savannah: aka bus
[00:37] spies8savannah: if he was a spy.
[00:37] spies8Nita: A good point, si?
[00:37] spies8savannah: im sure he would vote for someone else.
[00:37] spies8Nita: Besides, we all like him, no? He a nice guy
[00:37] spies8savannah: as we saw with kathie last season.
[00:37] spies8stephanie: well, if he were a spy, he'd have buddies helping him out surely
[00:38] spies8stephanie: but whatever
[00:38] spies8themba: Never spoken to him. Seems nice enough.
[00:38] spies8owen: People saw stuff from her?
[00:38] spies8Nita: Even if he is a spy that don't mean we can't be nice y friendly
[00:38] spies8stephanie: agree nita
[00:38] spies8Nita: He get too scared, maybe he leave like Kiara or somethin
[00:38] spies8stephanie: or allan
[00:38] spies8owen: Kiara, Kiara, Kiara.
[00:38] spies8tina: Oh, Kiara. That reminds me of a point we need to heavily consider.
[00:38] spies8savannah: lol kirara
[00:38] spies8savannah: i feel bad
[00:39] spies8owen: Those self-votes might make this exile pointless.
[00:39] spies8Nita: We talk abotu Kiara y agreed to let Sam take care of it
[00:39] spies8savannah: i actually liked her lol
[00:39] spies8tina: If she is not replaced, that will be at least six self-votes.
[00:39] spies8Nita: We gonna post we no see her for several days, si?
[00:39] spies8tina: This means we need to orginize and make more clear suspects, or we are going to default to that exile.
[00:39] spies8Nita: Maybe Sam replace her or remove her if he no able to replace
[00:39] spies8Nita: But he probably reasonable if we explain the situation, si?
[00:39] spies8owen: Agreed.
[00:39] spies8savannah: im sure he will
which is never a good thingg