Episode #10 Conversations
Aug 11, 2010 11:02:05 GMT -6
Post by Lawrence on Aug 11, 2010 11:02:05 GMT -6
Dane
spies8lawrence (10:54:50 AM): Good morning Dane
spies8dane (10:54:58 AM): morning, come to group chat
spies8dane (10:57:06 AM): might as well have one of my convos here
spies8dane (10:57:11 AM): even if it isn't required
spies8lawrence (10:57:50 AM): Owen's post is interesting, to say the least
spies8dane (10:58:33 AM): and he completely left out our little argument in both our cases
spies8dane (10:58:40 AM):
spies8lawrence (10:58:56 AM): Heh.
spies8dane (10:58:58 AM): I'll be straight with you
spies8dane (10:59:05 AM): leaving out jasmine for the moment
spies8dane (10:59:09 AM): my spy list is:
spies8dane (10:59:19 AM): Rondak, you, and kiara/hambone
spies8dane (10:59:32 AM): if you flip cit, I'd immediately go for owen
spies8dane (10:59:48 AM): If rondak flips cit, mary would get added to the list
spies8dane (11:00:25 AM): how about your list?
spies8lawrence (11:01:34 AM): Sorry, stepped away from the computer
spies8lawrence (11:02:13 AM): I'm not confident in this being 100% right, but as you already know, you're my strongest read
spies8lawrence (11:02:25 AM): So Dane . . . Jasmine . . . Owen
spies8lawrence (11:02:29 AM): If I took out Jasmine
spies8dane (11:02:41 AM): lol, i'm your strongest read?
spies8lawrence (11:02:42 AM): It would be Hambone in that spot
spies8dane (11:02:44 AM): on what evidence?
spies8lawrence (11:02:55 AM): We've had this discussion
spies8dane (11:03:06 AM): and you've had fail logic others have agreed to be fail each time
spies8lawrence (11:03:18 AM): My logic isn't fail
spies8dane (11:03:22 AM): mhmm
spies8lawrence (11:03:25 AM): And I haven't seen others agree with that
spies8dane (11:03:37 AM): mary agreed and jenny agreed
spies8dane (11:04:18 AM): jenny prior (around the time of your first vote for me) and mary current (our fun group chat convo)
spies8dane (11:04:43 AM): oh, and mary was the one who helped me correct you in the first group chat where you kept misinterpretting obvious things
spies8lawrence (11:06:05 AM): I did not know that they agreed
spies8lawrence (11:06:15 AM): But still, I believe what I have said
spies8dane (11:06:37 AM): as long as you don't expect anyone else to believe it, fine by me
spies8lawrence (11:06:52 AM): Mary has a case on Rondak
spies8lawrence (11:06:54 AM): Should be interesting
spies8dane (11:07:05 AM): yup, the rondak who has "never had any evidence on him"
spies8lawrence (11:07:22 AM): I haven't seen any of it up until now
spies8lawrence (11:08:24 AM): Hey, it's not all about him being a lurker
spies8lawrence (11:08:43 AM): That is the only thing I recall you telling me about
spies8lawrence (11:11:05 AM): Did you base your suspicion of Rondak off of this originally, or was it solely from his lurking?
spies8lawrence (11:11:14 AM): Also, why is Claude online?
spies8dane (11:12:18 AM): claude can't get his other sign in to work, and I knew about the round 1 alexei thing, not sure if I brought it up with you or not, and mary told me the other stuff when we were discussing OUR discussion
spies8lawrence (11:12:50 AM): I'm pretty sure you didn't bring up the Alexei point to me
spies8lawrence (11:13:07 AM): Then I wouldn't have thought he was just a policy lynch
spies8lawrence (11:13:46 AM): If there's an actual case, he's not as much of a scapegoat any more
spies8dane (11:13:58 AM): he was never a scapegoat -_
spies8dane (11:14:00 AM): -_-
spies8lawrence (11:14:08 AM): CRAP
spies8lawrence (11:14:12 AM): I had a post typed up
spies8lawrence (11:14:15 AM): In Owen's thread
spies8lawrence (11:14:19 AM): And I guess I didn't click post
spies8lawrence (11:17:24 AM): Why didn't you bring that stuff up to me?
spies8dane (11:18:37 AM): because I thought you were a spy or a stubborn idiot, still kinda do, and like I said, I only knew the alexei and the lurking at that time
spies8lawrence (11:18:59 AM): Even just the Alexei point would have changed things
spies8dane (11:19:22 AM): i'm sure
spies8lawrence (11:19:26 AM): But if you knew about that at the time . . .
spies8lawrence (11:19:33 AM): It doesn't look near as bad
spies8dane (11:19:38 AM): I didn't think of it
spies8lawrence (11:19:42 AM): As just pushing for a lurker lynch
spies8dane (11:19:55 AM): Pushing for a lurker lynch isn't suspicious or bad
spies8lawrence (11:20:12 AM): This is a theory discussion
spies8lawrence (11:20:16 AM): Which we've already had
spies8dane (11:20:25 AM): and you lost
spies8lawrence (11:20:31 AM): No, I didn't
spies8dane (11:20:34 AM): lol
spies8lawrence (11:20:38 AM): We love to argue
spies8lawrence (11:20:40 AM): Don't we?
spies8dane (11:20:43 AM): majority of spies player will disagree with you
spies8dane (11:20:47 AM): not about the arguing
spies8lawrence (11:21:01 AM): I'm not basing off of Spies only, I'm basing off of mafia in general
spies8dane (11:21:05 AM): same
spies8dane (11:21:06 AM):
spies8lawrence (11:21:16 AM): Neither of us are going to admit defeat on this
spies8dane (11:21:29 AM): except you've already lost
spies8lawrence (11:21:44 AM): You just made me laugh, literally
spies8lawrence (11:21:53 AM): But oh well, it's not relevant right now
spies8dane (11:21:59 AM): oh really?
spies8dane (11:22:12 AM): I still count you voting me with no valid reason as a reason to suspect you
spies8lawrence (11:22:29 AM): It's fine if you believe that, however, I've stated why that is not the case
spies8dane (11:22:37 AM): lol
spies8dane (11:22:44 AM): you used circular logic which is invalid
spies8lawrence (11:31:11 AM): I'm looking over that thread again
spies8lawrence (11:31:23 AM): I still don't see why the logic is bad
spies8lawrence (11:31:41 AM): I got a gut read on you based our first chat
spies8lawrence (11:31:53 AM): Looking back after that, I saw you nominated Rondak as an alternative to Magalie
spies8lawrence (11:32:10 AM): Hence the innocent read on Rondak
spies8dane (11:33:18 AM): you got a gut read based off you misinterpreting everything I said, which no one else had a problem with. You used a gut read to CLEAR someone? Utter fuckingly ridiculous.
spies8lawrence (11:33:53 AM): I would never use a gut read to completely clear someone
spies8lawrence (11:34:05 AM): Sure, he looked innocent because of it
spies8dane (11:34:10 AM): lol, yet you let it determine your vote
spies8dane (11:34:18 AM): and also LOL at that comment
spies8lawrence (11:34:24 AM): At that point there was nothing major which jumped out at me
spies8lawrence (11:34:32 AM): Except for the gut read
spies8dane (11:34:34 AM): how the fuck does it make him look innocent
spies8lawrence (11:34:38 AM): I had just recently replaced in
spies8lawrence (11:34:50 AM): I suspect you, you nominate him as an alternative to Magalie
spies8lawrence (11:35:01 AM): I dought a criminal would nominate an additional criminal
spies8lawrence (11:35:03 AM): *doubt
spies8dane (11:35:13 AM): and I nominated him, who I had had as a suspect, while having never been able to have a convo with magalie who was already confirmed to be being nominated
spies8dane (11:35:49 AM): for you to say that made me deserving of your vote and that it made me suspicious enough that someone I nominated was a citizen based off it is utterly ridicuolous
spies8lawrence (11:36:25 AM): It was based off of a gut read I got when I first came into the game
spies8lawrence (11:36:48 AM): Your continuted pushing of him later reinforced the read, until recently, when it appears it was more than just a lurker push
spies8dane (11:37:03 AM): continued pushing? I didn't start pushing for him again until episodes later
spies8lawrence (11:37:17 AM): That's what I mean
spies8dane (11:37:17 AM): more bull crap
spies8dane (11:37:23 AM): bullcrap
spies8lawrence (11:37:25 AM): You continued pushing him
spies8lawrence (11:37:33 AM): Instead of commenting on the Cinnamyn and Claude wagons
spies8lawrence (11:37:38 AM): You weren't sure on Claude
spies8dane (11:37:41 AM): thats not continued
spies8dane (11:37:44 AM): thats again
spies8dane (11:37:49 AM): 2-4 episodes later
spies8lawrence (11:37:52 AM): And you mentioned Cinnamyn on your criminal team
spies8lawrence (11:37:57 AM): It's 2 episodes later
spies8lawrence (11:38:02 AM): and the episode in between was Jenny
spies8dane (11:38:12 AM): 3 episodes
spies8lawrence (11:38:20 AM): You didn't expound upon why Cinnamyn was a member of your criminal team
spies8dane (11:38:25 AM): not to you
spies8lawrence (11:38:26 AM): No
spies8dane (11:38:28 AM): we were busy arguing
spies8lawrence (11:38:40 AM): I came into the game the episode that Awohali was Exiled
spies8lawrence (11:38:44 AM): That round I nominated you
spies8lawrence (11:38:54 AM): Then Jenny, where almost universally everyone voted for her.
spies8dane (11:38:56 AM): that was the episode AFTER I nominated rondak
spies8lawrence (11:38:57 AM): Afterwards
spies8dane (11:39:13 AM): so in order: I nominated Rondak, magalie got exiled
spies8lawrence (11:39:17 AM): It was Cinnamyn vs. Claude, where you pushed Rondak
spies8dane (11:39:18 AM): NEXT: awohali is exiled
spies8dane (11:39:22 AM): NEXT: jenny is exiled
spies8dane (11:39:32 AM): NEXT: the episode I vote for rondak
spies8dane (11:39:40 AM): 3 episodes after I last pushed on him
spies8dane (11:39:45 AM): is NOT continued pushing
spies8dane (11:39:57 AM): so less bullcrap
spies8dane (11:39:58 AM): please
spies8lawrence (11:40:07 AM): Your making a big deal about the definition of a word (semantics) more so than my logic
spies8dane (11:40:30 AM): lol, considering how often you misinterpret what's said, it's rather important to make sure facts are CORRECT
spies8dane (11:40:35 AM): which is something citizens like to do
spies8dane (11:40:42 AM): but spies dont
spies8dane (11:40:53 AM): anyway, i'm going to get lunch
spies8lawrence (11:40:53 AM): Sure
spies8dane (11:40:55 AM): enjoy your day:)
spies8lawrence (11:41:02 AM): criminals don't want to make sure they know what they are talking about?
spies8dane signed off at 11:41:06 AM
spies8lawrence (10:54:50 AM): Good morning Dane
spies8dane (10:54:58 AM): morning, come to group chat
spies8dane (10:57:06 AM): might as well have one of my convos here
spies8dane (10:57:11 AM): even if it isn't required
spies8lawrence (10:57:50 AM): Owen's post is interesting, to say the least
spies8dane (10:58:33 AM): and he completely left out our little argument in both our cases
spies8dane (10:58:40 AM):
spies8lawrence (10:58:56 AM): Heh.
spies8dane (10:58:58 AM): I'll be straight with you
spies8dane (10:59:05 AM): leaving out jasmine for the moment
spies8dane (10:59:09 AM): my spy list is:
spies8dane (10:59:19 AM): Rondak, you, and kiara/hambone
spies8dane (10:59:32 AM): if you flip cit, I'd immediately go for owen
spies8dane (10:59:48 AM): If rondak flips cit, mary would get added to the list
spies8dane (11:00:25 AM): how about your list?
spies8lawrence (11:01:34 AM): Sorry, stepped away from the computer
spies8lawrence (11:02:13 AM): I'm not confident in this being 100% right, but as you already know, you're my strongest read
spies8lawrence (11:02:25 AM): So Dane . . . Jasmine . . . Owen
spies8lawrence (11:02:29 AM): If I took out Jasmine
spies8dane (11:02:41 AM): lol, i'm your strongest read?
spies8lawrence (11:02:42 AM): It would be Hambone in that spot
spies8dane (11:02:44 AM): on what evidence?
spies8lawrence (11:02:55 AM): We've had this discussion
spies8dane (11:03:06 AM): and you've had fail logic others have agreed to be fail each time
spies8lawrence (11:03:18 AM): My logic isn't fail
spies8dane (11:03:22 AM): mhmm
spies8lawrence (11:03:25 AM): And I haven't seen others agree with that
spies8dane (11:03:37 AM): mary agreed and jenny agreed
spies8dane (11:04:18 AM): jenny prior (around the time of your first vote for me) and mary current (our fun group chat convo)
spies8dane (11:04:43 AM): oh, and mary was the one who helped me correct you in the first group chat where you kept misinterpretting obvious things
spies8lawrence (11:06:05 AM): I did not know that they agreed
spies8lawrence (11:06:15 AM): But still, I believe what I have said
spies8dane (11:06:37 AM): as long as you don't expect anyone else to believe it, fine by me
spies8lawrence (11:06:52 AM): Mary has a case on Rondak
spies8lawrence (11:06:54 AM): Should be interesting
spies8dane (11:07:05 AM): yup, the rondak who has "never had any evidence on him"
spies8lawrence (11:07:22 AM): I haven't seen any of it up until now
spies8lawrence (11:08:24 AM): Hey, it's not all about him being a lurker
spies8lawrence (11:08:43 AM): That is the only thing I recall you telling me about
spies8lawrence (11:11:05 AM): Did you base your suspicion of Rondak off of this originally, or was it solely from his lurking?
spies8lawrence (11:11:14 AM): Also, why is Claude online?
spies8dane (11:12:18 AM): claude can't get his other sign in to work, and I knew about the round 1 alexei thing, not sure if I brought it up with you or not, and mary told me the other stuff when we were discussing OUR discussion
spies8lawrence (11:12:50 AM): I'm pretty sure you didn't bring up the Alexei point to me
spies8lawrence (11:13:07 AM): Then I wouldn't have thought he was just a policy lynch
spies8lawrence (11:13:46 AM): If there's an actual case, he's not as much of a scapegoat any more
spies8dane (11:13:58 AM): he was never a scapegoat -_
spies8dane (11:14:00 AM): -_-
spies8lawrence (11:14:08 AM): CRAP
spies8lawrence (11:14:12 AM): I had a post typed up
spies8lawrence (11:14:15 AM): In Owen's thread
spies8lawrence (11:14:19 AM): And I guess I didn't click post
spies8lawrence (11:17:24 AM): Why didn't you bring that stuff up to me?
spies8dane (11:18:37 AM): because I thought you were a spy or a stubborn idiot, still kinda do, and like I said, I only knew the alexei and the lurking at that time
spies8lawrence (11:18:59 AM): Even just the Alexei point would have changed things
spies8dane (11:19:22 AM): i'm sure
spies8lawrence (11:19:26 AM): But if you knew about that at the time . . .
spies8lawrence (11:19:33 AM): It doesn't look near as bad
spies8dane (11:19:38 AM): I didn't think of it
spies8lawrence (11:19:42 AM): As just pushing for a lurker lynch
spies8dane (11:19:55 AM): Pushing for a lurker lynch isn't suspicious or bad
spies8lawrence (11:20:12 AM): This is a theory discussion
spies8lawrence (11:20:16 AM): Which we've already had
spies8dane (11:20:25 AM): and you lost
spies8lawrence (11:20:31 AM): No, I didn't
spies8dane (11:20:34 AM): lol
spies8lawrence (11:20:38 AM): We love to argue
spies8lawrence (11:20:40 AM): Don't we?
spies8dane (11:20:43 AM): majority of spies player will disagree with you
spies8dane (11:20:47 AM): not about the arguing
spies8lawrence (11:21:01 AM): I'm not basing off of Spies only, I'm basing off of mafia in general
spies8dane (11:21:05 AM): same
spies8dane (11:21:06 AM):
spies8lawrence (11:21:16 AM): Neither of us are going to admit defeat on this
spies8dane (11:21:29 AM): except you've already lost
spies8lawrence (11:21:44 AM): You just made me laugh, literally
spies8lawrence (11:21:53 AM): But oh well, it's not relevant right now
spies8dane (11:21:59 AM): oh really?
spies8dane (11:22:12 AM): I still count you voting me with no valid reason as a reason to suspect you
spies8lawrence (11:22:29 AM): It's fine if you believe that, however, I've stated why that is not the case
spies8dane (11:22:37 AM): lol
spies8dane (11:22:44 AM): you used circular logic which is invalid
spies8lawrence (11:31:11 AM): I'm looking over that thread again
spies8lawrence (11:31:23 AM): I still don't see why the logic is bad
spies8lawrence (11:31:41 AM): I got a gut read on you based our first chat
spies8lawrence (11:31:53 AM): Looking back after that, I saw you nominated Rondak as an alternative to Magalie
spies8lawrence (11:32:10 AM): Hence the innocent read on Rondak
spies8dane (11:33:18 AM): you got a gut read based off you misinterpreting everything I said, which no one else had a problem with. You used a gut read to CLEAR someone? Utter fuckingly ridiculous.
spies8lawrence (11:33:53 AM): I would never use a gut read to completely clear someone
spies8lawrence (11:34:05 AM): Sure, he looked innocent because of it
spies8dane (11:34:10 AM): lol, yet you let it determine your vote
spies8dane (11:34:18 AM): and also LOL at that comment
spies8lawrence (11:34:24 AM): At that point there was nothing major which jumped out at me
spies8lawrence (11:34:32 AM): Except for the gut read
spies8dane (11:34:34 AM): how the fuck does it make him look innocent
spies8lawrence (11:34:38 AM): I had just recently replaced in
spies8lawrence (11:34:50 AM): I suspect you, you nominate him as an alternative to Magalie
spies8lawrence (11:35:01 AM): I dought a criminal would nominate an additional criminal
spies8lawrence (11:35:03 AM): *doubt
spies8dane (11:35:13 AM): and I nominated him, who I had had as a suspect, while having never been able to have a convo with magalie who was already confirmed to be being nominated
spies8dane (11:35:49 AM): for you to say that made me deserving of your vote and that it made me suspicious enough that someone I nominated was a citizen based off it is utterly ridicuolous
spies8lawrence (11:36:25 AM): It was based off of a gut read I got when I first came into the game
spies8lawrence (11:36:48 AM): Your continuted pushing of him later reinforced the read, until recently, when it appears it was more than just a lurker push
spies8dane (11:37:03 AM): continued pushing? I didn't start pushing for him again until episodes later
spies8lawrence (11:37:17 AM): That's what I mean
spies8dane (11:37:17 AM): more bull crap
spies8dane (11:37:23 AM): bullcrap
spies8lawrence (11:37:25 AM): You continued pushing him
spies8lawrence (11:37:33 AM): Instead of commenting on the Cinnamyn and Claude wagons
spies8lawrence (11:37:38 AM): You weren't sure on Claude
spies8dane (11:37:41 AM): thats not continued
spies8dane (11:37:44 AM): thats again
spies8dane (11:37:49 AM): 2-4 episodes later
spies8lawrence (11:37:52 AM): And you mentioned Cinnamyn on your criminal team
spies8lawrence (11:37:57 AM): It's 2 episodes later
spies8lawrence (11:38:02 AM): and the episode in between was Jenny
spies8dane (11:38:12 AM): 3 episodes
spies8lawrence (11:38:20 AM): You didn't expound upon why Cinnamyn was a member of your criminal team
spies8dane (11:38:25 AM): not to you
spies8lawrence (11:38:26 AM): No
spies8dane (11:38:28 AM): we were busy arguing
spies8lawrence (11:38:40 AM): I came into the game the episode that Awohali was Exiled
spies8lawrence (11:38:44 AM): That round I nominated you
spies8lawrence (11:38:54 AM): Then Jenny, where almost universally everyone voted for her.
spies8dane (11:38:56 AM): that was the episode AFTER I nominated rondak
spies8lawrence (11:38:57 AM): Afterwards
spies8dane (11:39:13 AM): so in order: I nominated Rondak, magalie got exiled
spies8lawrence (11:39:17 AM): It was Cinnamyn vs. Claude, where you pushed Rondak
spies8dane (11:39:18 AM): NEXT: awohali is exiled
spies8dane (11:39:22 AM): NEXT: jenny is exiled
spies8dane (11:39:32 AM): NEXT: the episode I vote for rondak
spies8dane (11:39:40 AM): 3 episodes after I last pushed on him
spies8dane (11:39:45 AM): is NOT continued pushing
spies8dane (11:39:57 AM): so less bullcrap
spies8dane (11:39:58 AM): please
spies8lawrence (11:40:07 AM): Your making a big deal about the definition of a word (semantics) more so than my logic
spies8dane (11:40:30 AM): lol, considering how often you misinterpret what's said, it's rather important to make sure facts are CORRECT
spies8dane (11:40:35 AM): which is something citizens like to do
spies8dane (11:40:42 AM): but spies dont
spies8dane (11:40:53 AM): anyway, i'm going to get lunch
spies8lawrence (11:40:53 AM): Sure
spies8dane (11:40:55 AM): enjoy your day:)
spies8lawrence (11:41:02 AM): criminals don't want to make sure they know what they are talking about?
spies8dane signed off at 11:41:06 AM