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Post by Broderick on Jul 11, 2010 22:33:37 GMT -6
uhm. I'm confused. What happened to the Nominations?
Also. Replace 98% of the cast please?
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What the eff is the point of being in a group chat, if you aren't going to speak?!?!??!?!?!?!?
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Post by Broderick on Jul 11, 2010 22:45:49 GMT -6
I must be going insane then.
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Post by Broderick on Jul 11, 2010 23:27:59 GMT -6
Tina has got to be a freaking spy. There is also at least one spy in the Senate.
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Post by Broderick on Jul 12, 2010 0:45:04 GMT -6
Spies:
Gertrude Chance Jasmine Tina Lawrence/Magalie/Mary
Lawrence less likely. Gertrude has been 'protecting' and unsuspicious of Chance since the very beginning. Don't believe it has changed. The interactions between the two.. hmm.
Out of Tina.Mary.Owen.Cinnamyn - AT LEAST ONE SPY.
Mary might be the DOC, if Lilith wasn't via my speculation.
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Post by Judge Sam on Jul 12, 2010 10:26:56 GMT -6
Are you having fun playing the game? lol.
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Post by Broderick on Jul 12, 2010 16:43:10 GMT -6
Hahaha. Trying to have fun while going insane.
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Post by Broderick on Jul 12, 2010 19:25:55 GMT -6
Chance on Gertie. Today.
spies8broderick (16:31:24): Whats your opinion on Gertrude?
spies8chance (16:31:31): gertie? hmm. spies8chance (16:32:2): i like her case on rondak, and she's been true to what she said about her early bandwagoning and trying to step away from it, i think. spies8chance (16:32:5): i'm leaning cit on her. spies8broderick (16:32:33): Doesn't have anything to do with her being a bit protective of you since about first ep? spies8chance (16:33:23): doesn't hurt. spies8broderick (16:35:44): Does that mean less likely to suspect someone who is friendly towards you? spies8broderick (16:36:8): I mean you agree with her stance that cus you were 'getting picked on' early on, makes you less likely to be a spy? spies8chance (16:36:13): is that what i said? spies8chance (16:36:22): is that her stance? no, i don't agree with that. spies8chance (16:36:41): spies can be 'picked on' just as easily as cits can. spies8broderick (16:36:49): Prob not the exact wording, but I believe she said she didn't find you suspicious because you were getting picked on. spies8chance (16:36:49): cits are just more likely to be picked on because there's more of them. spies8chance (16:37:15): hm. i'll have to ask her about that.
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Post by Broderick on Jul 12, 2010 19:36:29 GMT -6
Gertrude @ Wed Jun 23rd
spies8gertrude (22:10:17): Coming from a background of Survivor, I'm not used to laying the proverbial cards out on the table. spies8gertrude (22:10:46): However, since then I have tried improving that habit of hiding my suspicions and thoughts. spies8gertrude (22:10:58): And hopefully, I'm doing decently at it. spies8broderick (22:11:21): ha. You just answered the question I was about to ask. spies8gertrude (22:11:34): Which was? spies8broderick (22:11:47): I was going to ask if you planned on being more open with your suspicions spies8gertrude (22:11:56): Oh, yes. spies8gertrude (22:12:4): Would you like to hear mine? spies8broderick (22:12:11): Yes please spies8gertrude (22:12:21): Fair enough. spies8gertrude (22:12:38): First off, I am not sold on the idea that Chance is a Spy. spies8gertrude (22:13:0): I know that seems to be most people's opinions, but let me make it very clear that I disagree. spies8gertrude (22:13:30): I don't necessarily think he's town, either, though. I just think the spotlight being put on him is undeserved. spies8gertrude (22:13:52): Next, I suspect Margot, which shouldn't be surprising. spies8cory (22:14:10): What reasons that were brought forth about Chance do you think are undeserved? spies8gertrude (22:14:20): Her response to being questioned about her vote reasoning was essentially a giant deflection onto me. spies8broderick (22:14:35): Why does it seem most people are sold on him being a spy? spies8gertrude (22:14:53): Well, everyone seems to think that because Chance was made Immune, the Spies are trying to protect him from Exile. spies8gertrude (22:15:14): And because whenever asked, people have listed Chance as one of their prime suspects. spies8gertrude (22:15:39): Jasmine and Claude, specifically, are convinced that he is 100% Spy. spies8gertrude (22:16:18): Margot also mentioned his name, and Lilith spent hours talking about Chance and his situation last night. spies8cory (22:16:41): Do you lean Citizen or Spy on Chance? spies8gertrude (22:17:41): I'm going to have to say Citizen if you're going to make me pick. The sheer amount of people who suspect him makes me suspect him less. spies8cory (22:18:5): What is your take on Claude, ignoring his role claim? spies8cinnamyn (22:18:24): doez da sheer amount of ppl suspectin' margot worry u gert.? spies8gertrude (22:18:31): I think Claude is passionate - more than he'd like to admit spies8broderick (22:19:4): I agree with that. He tries to deny emotions in the game. spies8gertrude (22:19:32): No, Cinnamyn, it doesn't. Because people suspect Margot more for what she's said (or hasn't), done (or hasn't), while it seems people suspect Chance because someone used a role on him. spies8cinnamyn (22:20:0): o ok, cuz i dont think dat at all about chance spies8cinnamyn (22:20:12): i still think it b 50/50 cit spy spies8gertrude (22:20:30): Getting back to Claude, I think his passion may cause him to be a little reckless spies8gertrude (22:20:51): A little too sure of his suspects, a little too quick to claim. spies8gertrude (22:21:12): I currently think that both Claude and Chance are Citizens. spies8gertrude (22:21:15): Gasp. spies8cory (22:21:41): Lol, that's actually my take as well spies8cory (22:21:47): Though less certain about Chance spies8cory (22:21:53): My working theory is that the Spies are among the quieter players spies8gertrude (22:22:7): I would definitely agree. spies8gertrude (22:22:24): Getting back to the original question - my suspects - spies8gertrude (22:22:50): I'd say Margot, followed by Isaac.
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Post by Broderick on Jul 12, 2010 20:37:41 GMT -6
Anonymity is ugly. When people think no one is watching them, or knows who they are - they will do ugly things. Things which would normally be out of their character if they were being watched, or known. Because of the judgement, the backlash.
That it happens in a game such as spies where identities are eventually revealed, I find both humorous and disturbing.
I don't care whether people like me or not. What I do care about, what bothers me the most is when people criticize me for doing A, then they do worse than that while criticizing me. People who sign up for a game and don't play, annoys the ever loving sanity right out of my head. I am not rude every opportunity that I get, yet those who criticize me are. I lash back. what I should take the lunacy? Heh, suck my dick if you think that is an appropriate response. Guess what, people are human. YES -human. So there is a threshhold for how much bullshit one can take.
I hold high expectations, always have. That people will play and be true to themselves, show some semblance of decency. Am I perfect? Far from it. However I don't start off being a douche, or asshole. Usually it is in response to what is done to me. I act the same way regardless if I am playing forum mafia, chat mafia, spies, etcetera. Yet here in SpiesLand, it becomes smug, high, mighty, asshole behavior.
If I think someone is being stupid, I will tell them. Ohhhkay.
high Expectations. I expect that if someone is going to sign up to play a game, then they will actually play it. Apparently this expectation is absolutely ridiculous. That signing up for a game, means you dont have to play at all. Heh, guess I totally missed that obvious one. [/i]
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Post by Broderick on Jul 12, 2010 20:48:06 GMT -6
spies8stephanie (19:39:5): hey brod spies8stephanie (19:39:26): did you ask me once if i talked to tina about lawrence being ignored on dems? spies8broderick (19:40:3): Yes spies8stephanie (19:40:19): cause i think i found it today when i was looking for something else spies8stephanie (19:41:17): it was in the republican chat room after the first challenge spies8broderick (19:41:44): oh K spies8stephanie (19:41:45): you were there spies8stephanie (19:41:49): (12:47:41 AM) spies8stephanie: chef, did i ask you already about larry? (12:48:18 AM) spies8broderick: Claude I believe was later in discussing his suspicions, and who he was considering voting for. To me at least. (12:48:27 AM) spies8broderick: Perhaps? You were here last night? (12:48:47 AM) spies8stephanie: yep, but that was before we talked to larry (12:48:55 AM) spies8stephanie: he just made no sense to me (12:49:20 AM) spies8stephanie: did he just get lost in the fray over there?
spies8stephanie (19:42:26): (12:52:00 AM) spies8broderick: About Lawrence, he probably did. He was kind of on my radar, but not to the extent of other people. (12:52:16 AM) spies8broderick: He was largely quiet, and obviously got easily missed with the louder folks, and arguments of Claude/Chance (12:52:31 AM) spies8broderick: I also never saw him on much at all.
spies8stephanie (19:42:35): is that what you were thinking of? spies8stephanie (19:43:18): this was all like the day before tina posted in the burg about larry spies8broderick (19:45:8): Sorta. At the time it seemed strange that, if i remember the timing right. spies8broderick (19:45:30): In our discussion session you mentioned lawrence was ignored, not much later Tina say Lawrence was ignored spies8broderick (19:45:39): found it fishy for two people to say similar statements spies8stephanie (19:45:49): tina was in that chat too spies8broderick (19:46:15): to me, lost in the fray and ignored dont mean the same thing spies8stephanie (19:47:11): not exactly, i guess
I can't even remember really what my original thought processing was about the ignored. I should of written it down.
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Post by Broderick on Jul 13, 2010 21:01:14 GMT -6
2:10 - 2:28 is the best part. The entire aircraft part. hahahaha.
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Post by Broderick on Jul 13, 2010 21:47:25 GMT -6
The three eliminated spies: Alexei, Isaac, and Magalie.
Alexei and Magalie are arguably the sloppiest so far.
Isaac, a bit better - but caught in the end.
Which kind of confirms my suspicions that out of Owen, Tina, Mary - there has got to be a spy.
Senators: Cinnamyn, Cory, Mary, Owen, Tina. Yes Magalie was a spy amongst the senators previously. However I still think there is one there.
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Post by Broderick on Jul 13, 2010 22:04:24 GMT -6
I was thinking about this earlier today, that I am going with my gut a bit more than previously. Though with Isaac, ugh. Donald from 6 all over again.
spies8gertrude (21:04:7): Chance as a Spy? Not likely, currently.
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Post by Broderick on Jul 13, 2010 23:01:51 GMT -6
spies8stephanie (21:04:48): i don't see that mags going has much to do with chance at all? spies8gertrude (21:05:6): I didn't say it did. I didn't think Chance was a Spy before this Exile, either.
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Post by Broderick on Jul 13, 2010 23:26:15 GMT -6
Putting this convo here, because it is mostly myself working out thought sin my head. xD
spies8cory (22:04:0): What do you think of the Mag flip? spies8broderick (22:05:0): Not surprising and surprising at the same time spies8cory (22:07:35): It say anything about anyone? spies8broderick (22:08:39): Not really. I think her pals turned on her and sacrificed her because she was probably becoming a liability. spies8broderick (22:09:13): Wasn't around for her spy message stuff or anything, so *shrug* spies8cory (22:10:14): Who are your top suspects right now? Jasmine still? spies8broderick (22:11:8): Jasmine is definitely in the top three. Haven't seen her around lately so nothing new to add or judge there. spies8broderick (22:11:18): Chance and Gertrude would be the other two spies8broderick (22:11:28): I have a working theory that they are spypals, so. spies8cory (22:12:52): Why's that? spies8broderick (22:13:29): Why's what? spies8cory (22:13:38): Why do you think they are spypals? spies8broderick (22:14:10): If I'm not getting info wrong, neither has suspected the other the entire game. spies8broderick (22:14:37): I believe Gertrude didn't suspect Chance in the beginning because so many people suspected him, as well as having to do with him being picked on. spies8broderick (22:15:56): Both have had personality flips, which really isn't a tell. I just find interesting spies8broderick (22:18:13): Though Jasmine, Gertrude, and Chance as a spy threesome I have doubts upon.
This part mostly: spies8broderick (22:18:30): I think there is at least one spy in the current Senate. Don't believe Mags was the only one. spies8cory (22:19:0): The senate as of now, or the senate as of Exile(excluding Magalie)? spies8cory (22:19:8): Cinnamyn, Cory, Owen, Mary spies8broderick (22:21:21): I thought there was at least one in the Senate before Mags was Exiled and flipped. I was thinking in terms of everyone other than her. Which would be Cinn, yourself, Owen, and Mary. With Mags, it would be two. She could be the one my gut was saying, but *shrug* spies8broderick (22:21:37): I think there is at least one spy in the 'power citizen' group. spies8broderick (22:21:51): As so far the three outed spies are arguably the sloppiest. spies8cory (22:22:15): Who do you consider to be in the 'power citizen' group? spies8cory (22:22:45): I'd like to know the list of names you're working with when you say you think there's a spy amongst them spies8broderick (22:23:0): Owen and Tina for sure. I've though one of them was a spy since Episode 3. spies8broderick (22:23:24): Mary is there. Claude and yourself are on the fringe. spies8cory (22:23:46): Do you still think one of Owen and Tina is a Spy? spies8broderick (22:23:59): I think it likely yes spies8broderick (22:24:16): I highly doubt that Owen, Tina, and Mary are all three citizens. spies8broderick (22:24:48): Mostly gut, with a little bit of logic and experience
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Nita
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Post by Nita on Sept 14, 2010 12:14:26 GMT -6
I can understand your frustrations, Chistina. I was curious about your WHERE ARE THEY? list:
Awohali Jasmine Lawrence Lilith Magalie Allan Dane Hambone Rondak Zedekiah
On your list were 5 new players and 5 returning players.
So I looked at the new players in the game overall: 4 were already eliminated (Camilla, Margot, Isaac, Alexei) 8 were still in the game. Of the 8 still in the game, 5 were perceived, by you in this confessional, to be barely active. The 3 new players who were considered active, by you in this confessional, included David (Jenny) who had followed a Spies game before beginning to end, and 2 role holders (Claude and Gertrude).
It's hard to remember while playing just how difficult it is to be a new player in this series.
As for the returing players, 2 had RL issues (Lawrence, Dane) and one had already been replaced (Lilith). Lack of interest wasn't as big of an issue as time commitment.
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Gertrude
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Jail changes an angel.
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Post by Gertrude on Sept 14, 2010 12:25:36 GMT -6
I hope (and trust) that it wasn't your intent, but I want to make it clear that I would've been just as active had I had no role.
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Nita
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Post by Nita on Sept 14, 2010 13:42:43 GMT -6
Sure. There was a comparable situation in Spies 5 where a new player, Desmond, had both a role and a mason friend, but he wasn't able to make the adjustment and idled out. Some new players adjust, most don't. But maybe it's easier with help.
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Post by Magalie on Sept 14, 2010 14:25:24 GMT -6
I must be going insane then. spies8tina (21:26:42) has entered the room. spies8gertrude (21:26:43) has entered the room. gurgelain (21:26:43) has entered the room. spies8chance (21:26:43) has entered the room. spies8broderick (21:26:43) has entered the room. spies8mary (21:26:43) has entered the room. StacyKNum1Fan (21:26:43) has entered the room. spiesXTonisha (21:26:43) has entered the room. spies8owen (21:26:43) has entered the room. spies8cory (21:26:43) has entered the room. spies8claude (21:26:43) has entered the room. spies8jenny (21:26:43) has entered the room. spies8broderick (21:30:50): No party I take it rofl spies8tina (21:38:42) has left the room. spies8tina (21:39:4) has entered the room. spies8tina (21:40:32) has left the room. spies8broderick (21:40:43): What would be the purpose of being in a group chat and not speaking? spies8tina (21:40:54) has entered the room. spies8claude (21:42:31) has left the room. lol omg I just love this
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Post by spies7vladimir on Sept 15, 2010 3:17:49 GMT -6
FYI. Samael is credit to the Clownie Goat. That is right. Goat Clowns get credit. First time in history this has happened. Going to savor this. Those chat logs are pretty sad. With that many people in chat, it's pretty surprising that nobody was saying anything. Seems to be a far cry from any of the other spies games I've seen/played in, where people were much more talkative. I can imagine that being quite frustrating.
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Post by Hambone on Sept 15, 2010 6:12:44 GMT -6
HOLY SHITBALLS OF EVERLOVING GLORY?!?!?! sAM POSTED A PICTURE OF ASHOVEL. WHICH TOTALLY OUTWINS THE SHOVEL FROM LAST SEASON USED IN MOTHERLANDINGS. *BOWS TO sAM FOR OUTMOTHERLANDING yURI.* It's not about the size or shape of the shovel, my young friend.
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