Episode 4: NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION

[Broderick]

My first 'grilling' post episode 3. lol.


spies8lilith (21:13:22): I agree with Jasmine (although I think you might be a spy now, LOL).

spies8broderick (21:14:47): Why do you think she might be a spy now, Lilith?

spies8lilith (21:15:1): Things she said after votes were revealed.
spies8lilith (21:15:4): I DON'T KNOW
spies8lilith (21:15:4): lol
spies8lilith (21:15:10): I don't know anything anymore, lol.
spies8broderick (21:15:21): I think you might be a spy now Lilith
spies8lilith (21:15:28): Oh really?
spies8jasmine (21:15:30): Your the one who asked me to vote Themba when I signed on. The vote being close between us two. . So for me, I'm unsure about Lilith.
spies8jasmine (21:15:43): If her PM, her IM when i quickly signed on, etc was all to get me to swap. to save isaac, or what.
spies8jasmine (21:15:46): and i need to go back to the chance stuff
spies8broderick (21:15:47): You pushed Jasmine to change her vote to Themba
spies8lilith (21:15:52): It was to save you, Jasmine.
spies8jasmine (21:16:6): yes, but owen did end up voting isaac
spies8jasmine (21:16:10): which i didnt notice till a bit after [What exactly do you mean right here? What does Owen have to do with anything?]

spies8broderick (21:17:5): You thought Owen was going to vote for Themba, Jasmine?
spies8lilith (21:17:11): I did.
spies8lilith (21:17:16): I don't think I told Jasmine that Owen was. [Why did you think Owen was voting for Themba? The entire time I thought he was voting for Isaac]

spies8jasmine (21:17:20): I didn't know, tbh. I signed on like 20-3 0 minutes before votes were due
spies8jasmine (21:17:27): and heard it was themba vs me.
spies8jasmine (21:17:30): basically
spies8lilith (21:17:32): I did tell Jasmine to vote for Themba, I didn't think Jasmine was a spy.
spies8broderick (21:17:34): Even though he said he was voting for Isaac?
spies8jasmine (21:17:54): What are you talking about Broderick?
spies8jasmine (21:17:58): we both just said we didnt know he was voting isaac
spies8lilith (21:17:59): Broderick, I honestly think your theory that I am a spy because I got immunity is invalid. [Like I said, I never had this theory, nor stated this theory.]

spies8lilith (21:18:6): If that is what you think, ask people who they voted for.
spies8broderick (21:18:33): I don't think you are a spy because you got immunity
spies8broderick (21:18:36): I never said that
spies8lilith (21:18:46): You said you thought spies were at work because of it.
spies8isaac (21:18:50): Why not ask claude right now who the spies are? It will save us all time since apparently he always knows...lol
spies8broderick (21:18:56): That isn't calling you a spy Lilith
spies8lilith (21:19:0): Then you tried to grill me about it.
spies8lilith (21:19:19): I asked you if you thought spies were trying to give it to me because I am a spy or I am not a target and you nevre responded. [You never said this to me. Honestly after this point, I think you are totally faking shit. You claim you are lost and new, but then this kind of crap. YOU PUSHED JASMINE to switch to Themba. That is ridiculously scummy. you TOLD her to switch to Themba. You even called her 'bitch'.]

spies8broderick (21:19:34): Jasmine, I am wondering why it was thought that Owen was not voting for Isaac

spies8jasmine (21:19:52): It wasnt
spies8jasmine (21:20:3): we didnt mention names
spies8jasmine (21:20:6): of who owen was voting for
spies8jasmine (21:20:8): or not voting for [Then why did you say that you didn't even notice until later that Owen was voting for Isaac? What did that have to do with anything?]

spies8broderick (21:20:36): When did you say that Lilith?
spies8broderick (21:20:42): I don't see that in this chat transcript
spies8jasmine (21:20:50): spies8lilith 10:12 pm
(10:33:10 PM): [Offline IM sent 21m ago] BITCH GET ONLINE

(10:33:10 PM): [Offline IM sent 21m ago] I DONT WANT YOU OUT


(10:33:10 PM): [Offline IM sent 21m ago] lol



(10:33:12 PM): [Offline IM sent 20m ago] In case you do get online at the last minute. Quick summary: I'm damn sure Isaac and Themba are spies. Change your vote to Themba if you can. The votes are going to be between you and her it looks like.


(10:33:23 PM): YAY!
spies8lilith (21:20:51): I said it to u in private
spies8jasmine (21:21:0): 5 lines of lilith telling me to change my vote
spies8lilith (21:21:19): Yes.

spies8broderick (21:21:34): Quote it then, because like I just said. I don't see it in this transcript. This transcript being our private conversation

spies8broderick (21:22:10): spies8lilith (20:44:14): I didn't apply great pressure to convince her.
spies8jasmine (21:22:10): huh?
spies8broderick (21:22:21): That isn't grwat pressure to convince her Lilith?
spies8lilith (21:22:47): I didn't run into any resistance.
spies8lilith (21:22:52): So now, I wouldn't say great pressure.
spies8lilith (21:23:5): I think pushing someone would be them saying "No" and me keeping PUSHING them to do so.
spies8lilith (21:23:9): *no
spies8jasmine (21:23:16): I voted for Lilith to win Immunity.
spies8broderick (21:23:19): lol whut. Are you changing your story?
spies8jasmine (21:23:22): I thought, and still do think, she is a citizen.
spies8lilith (21:23:28): What did I change?
spies8jasmine (21:23:34): And I think she will easily be considered for imprisonment if she wasn't immuned.
spies8jasmine (21:23:36): =)
spies8jasmine (21:23:45): So i trusted her judgement.
spies8broderick (21:24:9): you outright told her to switch her vote
spies8lilith (21:24:26): Yes, I have said that.
spies8lilith (21:24:33): Why are you repeating whay I have already said several timse?
spies8lilith (21:24:38): *what
spies8lilith (21:24:52): I feel like you are trying to turn this into something that we did scummy, when we are outright being honest with you.
spies8lilith (21:25:12): I don't feel like I PUSHED her or applied great pressure. She didn't resist to the idea of changing to Themba.
[It IS scummy, because you told her to switch her vote. You made it out that it was between Jasmine & Themba, yet apparently didn't feel the need to poll everyone's vote. Apparently you had no idea who Owen was voting for. So why would you think that it was between Jasmine & Themba, then proceed to tell her to switch her vote? Why were you so certain that she is a citizen?]

spies8jasmine (21:25:39): It's not like I thought Themba was citizen anyway, the girl was obviously scummy. and I was already fed up with her questions in her thread to me
spies8jasmine (21:25:53): So it wouldnt have taken much convincing even if I wasn't being voted on. imo.
[If she was obviously scummy, then why weren't you voting for Themba from the beginning? Why hadn't you discussed her before?]

spies8broderick (21:26:50): I just find it extremely interesting
spies8broderick (21:28:17): I also find it interesting that you have yet to quote the part I asked for Lilith
spies8lilith (21:28:25): I was looking for it.
spies8broderick (21:28:40): It isn't a long chat transcript lol
spies8lilith (21:28:44): I remember typing it, I may not have changed my mind, or I may have sent it to someone else, lol.
spies8broderick (21:29:18): So someone else thought spies were involved with your immunity choice/
spies8lilith (21:29:27): No
spies8lilith (21:29:35): I just may have sent it to the wrong person
spies8broderick (21:29:47): Then why would you be asking that question to someone else if no one else thought so?
spies8lilith (21:30:5): I may have sent it to someone else *on accident.
spies8lilith (21:30:16): I do not see it, so I must not have said it, but I do remember typing it.
spies8broderick (21:30:19): Are you looking for that?

[This part above was rather interesting]

spies8broderick (21:31:1): It seemed to me like you were waiting to make that argument. As soon as I said I thought spies were involved, you IMed me
spies8lilith (21:31:17): I was just curious as to what you meant.
spies8lilith (21:31:26): Do you honestly think spies were involved?
spies8broderick (21:31:39): I don't think you were or are a logical choice for Imprisonment, so yes.
spies8lilith (21:31:53): Then why don't you, like I said twice now, ask people who they voted for.
spies8lilith (21:32:2): If you really thought that then find out.
spies8lilith (21:32:4): It's not that hard
spies8broderick (21:32:6): For spies to be completely hands free with the decisions, I don't think are very small odds
spies8lilith (21:32:10): Unless, you are a spy and already know it isn't the case.
spies8broderick (21:32:56): Now you think I am a spy?
spies8lilith (21:33:30): No, I am, however, annoyed with your questions and how you attack me with them.
spies8broderick (21:33:44): I am not attacking you Lilith. I am asking you questions
spies8lilith (21:33:51): I am at the point where I don't know who any of the spies are and feel like I need to rethink everyone.
spies8lilith (21:33:57): You are asking me questions in an attacking way.
spies8broderick (21:34:4): No I'm not
spies8lilith (21:34:28): spies8broderick (12:22:43 AM): lol whut. Are you changing your story?
spies8broderick (21:34:28): If I were attacking you, you would have no doubts about it.
spies8broderick (21:34:51): I am not attacking you. That is asking if you are changing your story.
spies8lilith (21:34:51): spies8broderick (12:28:04 AM): It isn't a long chat transcript lol
spies8broderick (21:35:5): Please explain how those are attacking you
spies8lilith (21:35:8): But I didn't say anything different.
spies8lilith (21:35:13): What part do you think I was changing?
spies8lilith (21:35:43): To me it is attacking because you are asking questions that I do not understand where you are getting your logic from.
spies8broderick (21:36:58): spies8lilith (21:22:47): I didn't run into any resistance.
spies8lilith (21:22:52): So now, I wouldn't say great pressure.
spies8broderick (21:37:13): Or is that 'now' a typo?
spies8lilith (21:37:22): Yes, I corrected it in the next line or to.
spies8jasmine (21:37:39): You are attacking, and this entire conversation is poinltess. new topic?
spies8jasmine (21:37:40): -_-
spies8lilith (21:37:57): Although I do see now why you thought that question.
spies8broderick (21:38:1): Because you don't understand something, it is considered attacking?
spies8broderick (21:38:7): I am not attacking anyone
spies8jasmine (21:38:12): mmk.
spies8broderick (21:39:0): Seriously, I am not attacking anyone. Nor do I like the accusations that I am attacking.
spies8lilith (21:39:11): I can agree yes, you could be attacking me more harshly per the "if you were attacking me I would know".
spies8broderick (21:39:39): I am not attacking you at all
spies8lilith (21:40:15): You are asking me questions rapid-fire in an accusatory fashion.
spies8jasmine (21:40:41): Nita, nice to meet you btw! We haven't been on the same team yet. How are you gurl? Liking the game so far?
spies8broderick (21:42:15): That would be more grilling than attacking Lilith.
spies8lilith (21:42:33): I thought grilling was the more severe one?
spies8broderick (21:42:41): I am not being hostile, I am not being violent.
spies8lilith (21:42:53): I agree .
spies8broderick (21:42:55): Not that I am aware of.
spies8jenny (21:43:4): Oh wow, super burg merge.
spies8lilith (21:43:45): Had you grilled me earlier and had suspcions on me Broderick, maybe you would have the immunity and not me . I think you may be jealous I got it and not you, lol.
spies8broderick (21:44:16): No I'm not jealous.
spies8broderick (21:44:37): I simply don't agree with it. I don't think you are a logical choice to be imprisoned
spies8lilith (21:44:41): I don't know why I said any of that . I felt like being mean for being grilled, rofl.
spies8broderick (21:44:45): You yourself agreed with it
spies8lilith (21:44:47): Ask everyone else then.
spies8lilith (21:44:56): I agree I am a logical choice.
spies8lilith (21:45:2): I would HOPE I'm not a logicial choice.
spies8jasmine (21:45:11): I think she is logical. The girl seems like a pure cit to me so far.
spies8lilith (21:45:13): I want to argue I'm not a logical choice so that the spies don't kill me.
spies8jasmine (21:45:20): Nobody had any case on Lilith, did they?
spies8jasmine (21:45:26): Nobody ever spoke of voting her this past time.
spies8jasmine (21:45:28): That i can remember
spies8broderick (21:45:30): spies8lilith (20:14:42): Although, in all honesty, even if every single person thought I was town, I don't think I'd be a target THIS imprisonment.
spies8lilith (21:45:52): For me to be imprisoned: Most people think I am a citizen read, why I don't think I should be imprisoned: I am new and haven't been a huge threat yet and I'm not good at argueing my point of view
spies8claude (21:46:56): It was Lilith and Tina that are immune from the next imprisoment, right?
spies8lilith (21:47:2): Correct.
spies8claude (21:47:11): But Owen got the 'big prize'
spies8claude (21:47:14): Nice planning.
spies8lilith (21:47:29): The big prize winner couldn't get immune
spies8lilith (21:47:33): We sent in three votes
spies8jasmine (21:47:44): the big prize winner is immuned as well
spies8claude (21:47:44): Ah okay.
spies8jasmine (21:47:45): i think
spies8broderick (21:47:45): Owen is immune for imprisonment 4 and 5
spies8lilith (21:47:48): he is
spies8jenny (21:47:49): He is.
spies8claude (21:47:52): Right right, I spaced that.
spies8jenny (21:47:53): But they weren't told that at the time.
spies8lilith (21:47:59): We were?
spies8broderick (21:48:0): Yes we were
spies8lilith (21:48:3): Someone told us in a chat.
spies8lilith (21:48:11): I don't think we were told it originally
spies8broderick (21:48:11): Sam posted it in the information thread
spies8lilith (21:48:14): Because I didn't remember it
spies8broderick (21:48:20): I even linked you to it Lilith
spies8jenny (21:48:22): Sammy first said Owen was immune from 4 and 5 before bringing up dictatorship.
spies8lilith (21:48:46): I mean, I don't think when Sam first announced the prize, that he said the Power was immunity.
spies8jasmine (21:48:52): no, we were told
spies8lilith (21:48:55): I didn't know it until it was discussed in chat.
spies8broderick (21:48:59): The Power is not immunity
spies8lilith (21:49:7): --_--
spies8lilith (21:49:12): You are misunderstanding me.
spies8broderick (21:49:14): The selected would get immunity AND power
spies8jasmine (21:49:18): from reading the thread, it seemed like the "ultimate power" winner would be safe from imprisonments as well.
spies8broderick (21:49:40): In addition to this huge power, they will be made Immune from Imprisonment 4 and Immune from Imprisonment 5.
spies8lilith (21:49:45): I am trying to say that I do not think that Sam mentioned in his original announcement that the person who won the Ultimate Power would be immune.

[Lilith is a total fucking spaz. What exactly are you talking about, I can't find any mention of an original CHAT mention via Sam in the spies8 room about the Challenge. Are you talking when the Challenge started? GUESS WHAT. THAT CHAT WAS AFTER HE POSTED ABOUT IT. (I'm pretty damn sure any how)]

spies8broderick (21:49:55): He did

spies8lilith (21:50:2): In his CHAT announcement Brod.
spies8jenny (21:50:7): Yeah he didn't originally say they would be.
spies8lilith (21:50:10): I think that is what you are misunderstanding.
spies8lilith (21:50:13): Thank you Jenny.

spies8broderick (21:50:49): How does that make a difference, when he posted about it in the thread announcing the challenge?

spies8lilith (21:51:6): Because that is what someone asked about.


[WHAT CHAT ANNOUNCEMENT?]

[Broderick]

[Broderick]

CORY

spies8cory (10:32:11): Yo Brod. Long time no see.
spies8broderick (10:43:36): Hi Cory
spies8cory (10:43:44): Hi
spies8cory (10:44:5): Lol, enjoy your stay on the GOP?
spies8cory (10:44:9): My guess is no. Looked pretty chaotic.
spies8broderick (10:49:36): lol it wasn't too bad
spies8broderick (10:50:24): Sorry my phone keeps ringing
spies8cory (10:50:29): No problem.
spies8broderick (10:50:41): How was the Democrat side?
spies8cory (10:50:49): Tell those porn stars to stop calling. Problem solved.
spies8broderick (10:50:58): lol
spies8broderick (10:56:5): I haven't read all that happened on the Dem side while I wasn't there. Could ya give a skim rundown of events?
spies8cory (10:56:30): Let me try to remember. Lol.
spies8cory (10:56:40): I don't think anything 'big' happened really
spies8cory (10:56:55): After the challenge there was a brief discussion about whether or not we should nominate a no-exile
spies8cory (10:57:7): Proposed by Claude, supported by Nita, with Cinnamyn and myself initially on the wall about it
spies8cory (10:57:13): Awohali was against, as was Mary.
spies8cory (10:57:30): Claude's theory was that there were more Spies on the GOP, and so we shouldn't risk putting up a Citizen for exile.
spies8cory (10:57:48): Nita's argument was that the GOP wouldn't have enough information to make a calculated assessment about whoever we put up
spies8cory (10:58:30): Awohali's argument against is that it would provide more information not only about our own team, but about how you guys revoted if we did in fact nominate someone. On the other hand, if we didn't nominate someone, it would encourage laziness
spies8cory (10:58:48): I thought Awohali's arugment wa sbetter so I sided with him.
spies8cory (10:58:52): Anyway, that didn't hold.
spies8cory (10:59:17): Chance eventually returned and said he wouldn't be focusing on Claude at all since he couldn't vote him(Claude stole his vote again)
spies8cory (10:59:36): Magalie seemed like the obvious exile all week
spies8broderick (10:59:58): I saw the Claude role use mention. I found it rather ridiculous. If Claude proposed the No Exile, do you know why he didn't vote that way?
spies8cory (11:00:26): Probably because very few people supported the motion
spies8cory (11:00:37): I think Nita was the only one to support it in full
spies8broderick (11:00:49): I agree with Nita about our side not knowing enough, I found it rather favorable that it was even though of and the time was took to summarize cases against those possible to be nominated. Whether or not our entire side read them.. *shrug*
spies8cory (11:00:50): Rondak never made mention of it that I can recall, so I'm not sure why he voted the way he did.
spies8broderick (11:01:22): I think I saw Cinnamyn say last night that Rondak voted No Exile and then went to bed
spies8cory (11:01:40): He needs a swift kick in the ass. Lol.
spies8cory (11:01:45): He didn't do much last episode.
spies8broderick (11:02:9): Was there any discussion about Claude using his role on Allan?
spies8cory (11:02:38): Not that I recall.
spies8cory (11:02:44): Allan wasn't around much anyway
spies8cory (11:03:0): But that's a good point... That probably should have been done
spies8cory (11:03:11): Though I doubt Allan is lying about having a role, better to be sure
spies8broderick (11:03:24): Was there discussion about why Allan claimed to Jenny so early?
spies8cory (11:04:10): Not to my recollection. I talked to Jenny about it a few times, but it was more about her role in it rather than his.
spies8broderick (11:04:13): I think there is speculation that it could be a bluff between Jenny and Allan. Since some of the origRepublicans can't see the logic in Allan claiming early to Jenny. When Jenny was never thought of as overly town
spies8cory (11:04:16): He actually claimed to Nita as well, apparently.
spies8broderick (11:04:40): Yes, I believe he claimed to Nita after Alexei was exiled.
spies8cory (11:05:8): I'll have to get a fuller scoop
spies8cory (11:05:28): Jenny is actually one of my top suspects. Haven't considered Allan much mainly since he isn't really around to talk to.
spies8broderick (11:05:40): I will as well. I only heard this from Owen, and obviously couldn't corroborate it since Allan, Nita, and Jenny were on the other team. lol
spies8broderick (11:06:6): Why Jenny?
spies8broderick (11:06:31): Jenny was the preferred choice for nomination from you guys, from the majority of the origRepublicans
spies8cory (11:07:56): Lots of things. She voted against the Alexei wagon, but only softly defended him. She avoided commenting on him in the public chat(would go quiet when he was mentioned) during the first episode. Her game strategy is to find Citizens rather than Spies, which, the last time I saw someone claim that, they were a Spy, Lol. It's a good strategy to have that allows you to avoid flinging dirt at people.
spies8cory (11:08:21): Then there was the apparently unnecessary role claiming of Allan's role. Several people I talked to said Allan wasn't in huge danger at the time. So i'm not certain why she did it.
spies8cory (11:09:12): When I was interrogating her the other night she seemed to dodge the question of whether or not she suspected Alexei during episode one. She kept comparing him to Callahan from Spies 6 and saying she wanted him to stick around a few more episodes to keep an eye on him.
spies8cory (11:10:15): Most of last episode I didn't see much effort from her to figure out who the Spies were.
spies8cory (11:10:30): Rondak, Allan, and Magalie obviously fall into that category as well.
spies8broderick (11:10:41): I have seen that mentioned, that she avoided mentioning Alexei.
spies8cory (11:10:56): That was something Mary pointed out two or three nights back.
spies8broderick (11:11:9): Zedekiah, Kiara, and a bit of Stephanie can fall into that as well
spies8broderick (11:12:1): What did Mary point out? Jenny not mentioned Alexei at all?
spies8cory (11:12:28): She pointed out a few instances where the subject changed to Alexei and Jenny would go quiet and not comment for a long period of time
spies8cory (11:12:32): I can get the quotes she pulled up
spies8cory (11:14:44): spies8mary: spies8alexei: ok, now let me ask you, and please answer honestly, how many of you think I am spy for sure?
spies8alexei: steph? rondak? jenny? themba? what do you think honestly?
Jenny disappears for a half hour without answering.
spies8cory (11:14:59): spies8mary: Themba asks who she's voting for.
spies8jenny: Just saw your question, sorry. Yeah I'll probably stick with Zeddy for now (sorry Zeddy )
Never comments on Alexei or tries to persuade people to join her, based on evidence from their 1 1/2 hours of talking.
spies8cory (11:15:12): spies8mary: "I really don't know what to think of this guy right now. He seems to me to be coming off like someone in a previous game named Callahan, who just gave up when people put pressure on him the first day, and turned out to be a cit."
spies8cory (11:15:21): spies8mary: Tina points out another contradiction in Alexei's Zed suspicions, Jenny ignored it.
spies8broderick (11:15:57): Has anyone asked Jenny about it?
spies8cory (11:16:32): I didn't outright ask her about it, but I tried to see what she was thinking about Alexei and Zed at the time
spies8cory (11:16:56): It looked like she had a long, detailed reason for suspecting Zed
spies8cory (11:17:16): But she had no real opinion of Alexei other than, for some reason, thinking he resembled some Callahan from Spies 6
spies8broderick (11:17:50): lol
spies8broderick (11:21:0): Are you suspicious of anyone else?
spies8cory (11:21:17): Magalie, Rondak, Chance, Gertrude
spies8cory (11:21:32): Rondak is a tough call since he has done so little
spies8broderick (11:21:46): Why those four?
spies8cory (11:23:18): Chance because he hyper focused on Claud for a good two episodes. His initial attack againt claude was the subject of hypocrasy
spies8cory (11:23:25): You probably know all about that since you were there.
spies8cory (11:23:43): But his insistence that Claude is a Spy has allowed him to avoid looking at others until this past episode.
spies8broderick (11:24:8): Why not Claude for the same reason?
spies8cory (11:24:17): Magalie because she has been completely useless. She isn't looking for Spies. Her suspicions are all incoherent and flimsy. If you look at her episode two choices, she lists three players and takes no definite stances against them
spies8cory (11:24:29): Claude has focused on Chance, but he never focused only on him
spies8cory (11:24:35): Recall he went after Camilla
spies8cory (11:24:43): In episode two, once he knew he couldn't vote Chance, he looked elsewhere
spies8broderick (11:24:50): That is true.
spies8cory (11:25:8): Chance never really did the same as far as I know until he came back from this trip
spies8broderick (11:25:24): What about the possibility that Magalie is a total newb and is completely lost?
spies8cory (11:25:31): I've considered that.
spies8cory (11:25:40): Especially after Camilla and Margot
spies8cory (11:26:1): The lack of support for her had me second guessing, but it's late enough in the game that I doubt any spy partners she has would lend her much support
spies8cory (11:26:14): I don't know, though. There's a fine line between Rondak and Magalie
spies8broderick (11:26:49): I have heard people say that he is more into roleplaying than spyhunting
spies8cory (11:28:1): Yeah, that's what I've heard as well
spies8cory (11:28:11): Apparently he came into the game thinking this was a roleplaying game.
spies8cory (11:28:31): Which is kind of odd since he was a Suvivor player
spies8broderick (11:28:34): lol. I don't see that as an acceptable excuse.
spies8broderick (11:29:9): When people apply for the game, they should have a grasp of what the game is about.
spies8cory (11:29:16): Right
spies8cory (11:29:18): And he's still here
spies8broderick (11:29:37): Sam doesn't make it a state secret, and there are posts which explain it.
spies8cory (11:30:4): Well
spies8cory (11:30:11): The application process should be enough to make it clear. Lol.
spies8broderick (11:30:26): Should lol.
spies8broderick (11:30:50): But you have to visit the board to even get the application. One would think one would peruse the boards to see what one was getting one self into. lol
spies8broderick (11:30:54): one one one one one two
spies8cory (11:33:13): He needs to do something regardless. Lol.
spies8cory (11:33:23): He said he had no real opinion of anybody last I talked to him
spies8broderick (11:33:28): I agree.
spies8cory (11:33:30): I told him he needs to post something even if it's vague
spies8cory (11:33:32): I don't think he ever did.
spies8broderick (11:34:48): What about Gertrude?
spies8cory (11:35:24): She was someone I wasn't considering for a vote, but still had on my radar
spies8cory (11:36:2): Both of her votes were unexplained. Both were on dead citizens. Claude raised a good point at the beginning of the last episode
spies8cory (11:36:12): She listed two people as being 'torn' between them at the end of episode 2
spies8cory (11:36:16): I think it was Margot and Magalie
spies8cory (11:36:26): Coming into episode three she dropped the Magalie suspicion and listed Rondak as her supect
spies8broderick (11:36:41): She voted for Magalie though in the end
spies8cory (11:36:44): She claims she was never really suspicious of Magalie but thought people were wanting to vote her 'for being magalie'
spies8broderick (11:39:4): Well I am glad she has not just flown under the radar. After the second exile she pinged my radar, and I've been waiting to be able to chat with her again lol
spies8cory (11:40:48): Gertrude?
spies8broderick (11:40:56): Yes Gertrude
spies8broderick (11:41:16): I realized she was the only Democrat to be on both lynch wagons.
spies8cory (11:41:36): Oh, she made another comment to me
spies8cory (11:41:56): Saying she didn't want to be on the majority wagon this past week because she didn't want to be on another mislynch since it'd make her look bad.
spies8broderick (11:42:2): I think there was something else because right after the exile Jasmined and Gertrude were on my mind as suspicions. But I apparently didn't confessionalize it, thinking I would remember. Then teams got altered.
spies8broderick (11:42:15): I saw a comment similar to that in the voting thread.
spies8cory (11:42:38): Let me make sure I'm not imagining things . Lol.
spies8cory (11:44:2): spies8gertrude: I'd like to vote for Rondak or Jenny
spies8gertrude: Or magalie.
spies8Cory: Those three are also on my four picks for this week
spies8gertrude: Actually, I don't think I want to vote for Magalie..
spies8gertrude: Because if she's Exiled and flips Citizen, I look even worse
spies8broderick (11:44:41): Hmm. Why is she that worried about how she looks?
spies8broderick (11:45:5): She ended up voting for her
spies8cory (11:46:5): She got shit for being the only person on two Citizen wagons
spies8broderick (11:46:49): Did she?
spies8cory (11:46:53): spies8Cory: Wouldn't that be the case if you exiled anyone and they flipped citizen?
spies8Cory: That suggests you have some kind of doubt in your suspicion of Magalie as opposed to the others.
spies8gertrude: Yes, but I feel like she's going to be the one who's Exiled.
spies8gertrude: Meaning that I feel like voting anyone else would put me in the minority.

[Broderick]

ROFL NITA

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spies8mary (11:35:25): Hi.
spies8mary (11:35:35): Who else pushed Dane?
spies8broderick (11:35:48): Hiii
spies8jenny (11:36:4): Hi Ricky!
spies8nita (11:36:29): No one
spies8nita (11:36:34): Just Alexei y Stephanie
spies8mary (11:36:44): So two spies alone on Dane.
spies8lawrence (11:36:53): I think only Alex and Stephanie pushed him, but it did look for a while like others were considering and thinking about it.
spies8nita (11:37:9): Hambone dislike him but never accuse him
spies8nita (11:37:12): Say he think he citizen
spies8nita (11:37:22): I think there a part en the group chat where everyone agree
spies8mary (11:38:12): What's your case on Isaac, Lawrence?
spies8lawrence (11:39:7): Part of it went by the wayside with Themba's exile and cit-flip. I thought I'd caught a spyslip where he said he still needed to talk to her when they were on separate teams.
spies8nita (11:39:8): [23:49] spies8stephanie: good night gabe
[23:49] spies8gabriel: night everyone!!
[23:49] spies8stephanie: change your vote to dane
[23:49] spies8stephanie: in your sleep
[23:49] spies8gabriel: no
spies8nita (11:39:17): Gabriel, he so cute
spies8mary (11:39:25): I liked him.
spies8lawrence (11:39:41): The other part is just a general scummy feeling; I think I've only got one quote to back it up though.
spies8nita (11:40:17): I forgot, Themba also suspect Dane. She vote him at first
spies8mary (11:40:34): Ok.
spies8jenny (11:41:9): That didn't last very long though.
spies8mary (11:41:12): Why are you leaning Cit on Jasmine?
spies8nita (11:41:24): [21:43] spies8jenny: I feel like you're a cit, but you aren't doing any favors to yourself by coming off as a condecending prick.
[21:43] spies8dane: ouch >.<
[21:43] spies8dane: but positive!
spies8nita (11:42:5): Dane, he like it when you call him names
spies8lawrence (11:42:39): Well, her explanation of holding off on Chance's case made sense, and that was pretty much all the evidence I had on her. She's been making a case on Isaac, and vice versa, so I don't think they can be spies together. And since I'm leaning spy on Isaac, I'm leaning cit for Jasmine.
spies8nita (11:43:43): [21:23] spies8rondak: I do not think that Dane is a spy.
[21:23] spies8dane: that too
[21:23] spies8stephanie: you should go read the chat logs from today dane
[21:23] spies8rondak: I think that, for the most part, people are suspicious of him because he is a total asshole.

spies8nita (11:44:24): [21:24] spies8tina: I have you as very slightly cit.
[21:24] spies8dane: in your opinion, have I kept up to date with current issues?
[21:24] spies8owen: I've yet to talk to you, I just think some others see you as a distraction. Haven't been one to me yet.
spies8nita (11:44:40): En conclusion: Just Stephanie y Alexei pushin dane
spies8mary (11:45:23): "She's been making a case on Isaac, and vice versa, so I don't think they can be spies together."
spies8mary (11:45:28): Why's that?
spies8broderick (11:45:48): She has yet to actually vote for Isaac
spies8mary (11:47:31): Why did you leave Jasmine out of your investigates post?
spies8lawrence (11:48:4): She was in my ep 2 post.
spies8lawrence (11:48:23): And I didn't have the time to continue looking at her.
spies8lawrence (11:48:33): At least, not to the same extent I'd done for the others.
spies8mary (11:48:42): Did you leave anyone else out?
spies8mary (11:49:2): Lilith, it seems.
spies8mary (11:49:13): Owen.
spies8mary (11:49:28): What's your take on them?
spies8lawrence (11:50:56): I'd started on Owen, but hadn't completed. He seems cit to me. Lilith and Kiara I never got to, but didn't expect them to have much to go on.
spies8lawrence (11:51:9): I intend to do all three of them this episode, and work on a couple of the others too.
spies8broderick (11:52:6): Do you plan on looking at myself more, so it isn't just a 'gut' read?
spies8lawrence (11:52:52): Continually, Brod. I was actually hoping to try to do followups on everyone, too.
spies8mary (11:57:4): I'll be right back. The police are here and I have to go hide in the closet until they leave.
spies8broderick (11:57:43): lol
spies8cinnamyn (11:58:19): nita y did u still vote no exile if it wuz pritty obvious it wuznt gonna b a majority
spies8cinnamyn (11:58:26): jus' 4 da principle.?
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spies8isaac (12:02:33): Does anyone have the chat transcripte from the dems side posted somewhere for the last day? I'm trying to look everything back over
spies8jenny (12:03:8): Yep!
spies8cory (12:03:11): spies8.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=burg&action=display&thread=765
spies8jenny (12:03:25): Silly question really.
spies8nita (12:03:29): Cinnamyn I was hopin my post would convince people to vote no exile
spies8nita (12:03:39): I showed proof that the Republicans ain't readin our board
spies8nita (12:04:0): Meanin that they wouldn't be readin our cases y takin em seriously
spies8broderick (12:04:2): Well Sam did outdo you last night Jenny. I think with that, your competence as a chatlogger and chatinviter is under scrutiny.
spies8nita (12:04:26): Which is what happen last night, no? So why give them an alternative?
spies8cinnamyn (12:04:33): yea i get ur point i jus' thot it wuz agreed dat errybody still wanted 2 vote
spies8nita (12:04:33): Nobody last night vote AGAINST Magalie
spies8nita (12:04:42): Well that be before I posted proof that I be right
spies8nita (12:04:52): I post proof but nobody care anyway
spies8jenny (12:05:7): Sam always posts the exile transcripts, so I knew I didn't have to worry about that
spies8cinnamyn (12:05:31): well we can uze ppl not votin against magalie az evidence, rite.?
spies8cinnamyn (12:05:41): it gives us sumthin' 2 work wit
spies8nita (12:05:42): No because NOBODY en the republicans even think bout her
spies8nita (12:05:47): Nobody read the case on her or nothin
spies8broderick (12:05:49): I honestly don't think you showed proof that everyone on the Republican side was not reading the Democrats board Nita.
spies8broderick (12:06:2): Have you polled everybody Nita, because it seems it is your opinion and not fact
spies8nita (12:06:18): I show proof by usin your public chat en my post. Only 1 person mention they opinion on Magalie at all y that be Jasmine, y she no mention what we actually say
spies8nita (12:06:21): She just bring up her thoughts on magalie
spies8nita (12:06:24): So si, I got proof.
spies8nita (12:06:41): Entire night nobody talk bout it
spies8cinnamyn (12:06:44): it jus' kinda seemed lyke a cop out dat u didnt vote 4 sumbody. i agree wit' wut u had 2 say, but at da end of da day we all voted 4 sumbody but u.
spies8nita (12:06:45): It all there
spies8broderick (12:07:3): Where cases posted about them, at the time you looked?
spies8broderick (12:07:8): *were
spies8nita (12:07:20): SI Broderick, TRES people post en full why they suspect Magalie
spies8nita (12:07:25): Awohali, Cinnamyn y Jenny
spies8nita (12:07:32): Nobody en your group discuss it
spies8nita (12:07:45): Includin you
spies8nita (12:08:16): Y how it be a copout if I tell everybody exactly what I think y why I think it y provide justification for why i right?
spies8nita (12:08:39): Don't talk less you know what you talkin bout
spies8broderick (12:08:41): Not even sure why this needs to be stated, but we did have our own things to worry about. The impression I get is that you think we should of been paying full attention to everything the Democrats said.
spies8cinnamyn (12:08:45): cuz u didnt vote 4 n e body, n' datz wut we here 2 do
spies8nita (12:09:7): I no vote to give the republicans a candidate they know nothin bout. But I discuss my suspicions wit everyone
spies8cinnamyn (12:09:16): if dey n e thing dat luks suspishis in dis game, itz not showin' ur cardz wen u got da chance, n' u had da chance n' blew it off
spies8broderick (12:09:19): Obviously I read it, if in the group chat I made mentioned about part of the case against Magalie. Regarding the FoS usage.
spies8nita (12:09:27): Y when they put up Themba I tell everybody why of the two magalie be the better choice
spies8nita (12:10:18): If the republicans knew from the start we ain't givin them a choice, maybe they take their exile more seriously instead of a last minute clusterfuck which es what we see
spies8nita (12:10:31): Instead we got Themba gone
spies8cinnamyn (12:10:43): but dat aint wut we decided
spies8broderick (12:10:43): I really don't think you have any room to blame us Nita
spies8cinnamyn (12:10:45): datz wut u decided
spies8nita (12:10:57): You no do your job Broderick. I ain't giviin you no credit for what you do
spies8broderick (12:11:3): I believe everyone took it seriously
spies8broderick (12:11:6): I didn't do my job?
spies8nita (12:11:12): No.
spies8broderick (12:11:13): What job did I not do?
spies8nita (12:11:48): When you decide who you votiin for? tres hours bfore exile
spies8nita (12:11:59): What you post? "Last night I was going to vote for Jasmine or Stephanie. I am less sure on Stephanie at the moment.
So I will probably vote for Jasmine. "
spies8broderick (12:12:4): What job did I not do?
spies8nita (12:12:5): How that convincin? How that makin a case?
spies8nita (12:12:33): How you gettin your group together y makin sure people votin wit good reasons?
spies8broderick (12:12:37): My job is to make cases and push those cases?
spies8nita (12:12:40): Your group be a mess y you no help
spies8nita (12:12:49): You sloppy so you make a mistake
spies8nita (12:12:55): That what you do
spies8broderick (12:12:58): I am not in the business of mass exiling a citizen, in the case of Savannah
spies8nita (12:13:12): That be different. It be Allan job to defend himself only the hombre ain't never around
spies8nita (12:13:21): He make me promise no say nothin to nobody
spies8nita (12:13:30): So I leave it to him y work on namin who I suspect
spies8broderick (12:13:37): The job is to exile spies, not exile just anyone Nita
spies8nita (12:13:39): Your group, everybody there
spies8nita (12:13:56): Savannah y Alexei weren't against me so if you accusinme of OMGUS you got another thinig comin
spies8broderick (12:13:56): That takes communication and discussion, not simply rallying everyone together and making sure they are voting for the same person
spies8broderick (12:14:29): Messes happen. Nothing is clear cut and pretty and can be arranged with a bow on top
spies8nita (12:14:43): What discussion you group do? People I talk to say your exile a complete disaster, nobody gettin their act together
spies8broderick (12:14:46): If I were accusing you of OMGUS, I would say it outright.
spies8broderick (12:14:54): I would say 'Nita, that is OMGUS'
spies8broderick (12:14:56): I didn't
spies8broderick (12:15:15): Read the chat logs Nita
spies8nita (12:15:16): You ain't always expressin yourself clearly, that ain't my fault. That be your problem
spies8broderick (12:15:25): I don't have a problem expressing myself
spies8broderick (12:15:34): If I am going to accuse you of something, I will say it outright Nita
spies8nita (12:15:36): If I no understand what you sayin, then si you got a problem
spies8broderick (12:15:44): No. You have a language barrier problem
spies8nita (12:15:46): You do that
spies8broderick (12:15:58): you are caught up in your role playing
spies8nita (12:16:5): You be dumber than Allan.
spies8nita (12:16:16): He say the same thing y he wrong
spies8broderick (12:16:27): Okay, kindegarten is calling you Nita
spies8broderick (12:16:32): *you
spies8nita (12:16:48): That supposed to be an insult? Worst one I ever hear
spies8nita (12:17:13): Lookin forward to lookin for spies wit you y laughin at your dumb opinions
spies8broderick (12:17:13): 'you be dumber than allan'
spies8broderick (12:17:21): How is that productive and not childish Nita?
spies8nita (12:17:28): that the best you got?
spies8broderick (12:17:36): How is that productive and not childish Nita?
spies8broderick (12:17:43): Because right now, you are looking like Magalie
spies8cinnamyn (12:17:50): ouch
spies8cinnamyn (12:17:52): cold broderick, real cold
spies8nita (12:17:53): Then you ain't know nothin bout me
spies8nita (12:18:3): You know nothin bout how I playin this game
spies8nita (12:18:7): You go ahead, you underestimate me
spies8broderick (12:18:9): It is the truth.
spies8nita (12:18:12): You do that
spies8nita (12:18:18): I no care
spies8nita (12:18:23): While you doin that, I be findin the spies
spies8broderick (12:18:24): I tried talking to Magalie about the game, she calls me boring
spies8broderick (12:18:37): I say Nita is caught up in roleplaying, she calls me dumb
spies8nita (12:18:43): I ain't talkin bout your personality. I talkin bout how you no know what's goin on
spies8broderick (12:18:51): K Nita
spies8nita (12:18:53): How you say I caught up en roleplayin if I find a spy?
spies8broderick (12:18:54): I heard the bell
spies8nita (12:19:3): How you say I caught up en roleplayin if I statin who I suspect y backin it up?
spies8nita (12:19:10): You know nothin, that what you know
spies8broderick (12:19:18): *ding ding*
spies8broderick (12:19:23): The bell is calling you Nita.
spies8nita (12:19:27): I can ding ding too!
spies8broderick (12:20:46): Is there any thing else you care to say, because I need to go back to work now
spies8nita (12:21:9): You go back to work, nobody here need you
spies8broderick (12:21:58): lol. Still a child

[Broderick]

TINA

spies8tina (22:42:6): Hush about Claude using his ability on Owen. We do not want to give him the idea that he can force exile his choice.
spies8broderick (22:42:39): That who can force exile his choice? Owen or Claude?
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spies8broderick (22:43:1): I think he already has the idea since he posted about doing it in the O-Town thread
spies8tina (22:43:11): He better not.
spies8broderick (22:43:11): He is trying to force a Chance Exile
spies8tina (22:43:30): Chance is not the worst pick, but that is a horrible move.
spies8tina (22:43:47): Even if Chance is a spy, zero information.
spies8broderick (22:43:47): It is. He was told as much

[Broderick]

OWEN

spies8broderick (22:23:25): A question for when you have a sec. These questionaires, would you prefer them now or later? Since the episode really hasn't gotten into the fully swing, suspicions are bound to change
spies8owen (22:24:53): It's fine if you don't do them now -- I just want to get a general idea where peoples heads are at.
spies8owen (22:25:1): I've only got 9 of them or so thus far.
spies8owen (22:25:17): I think others may be waiting until after the Imprisonment.
spies8broderick (22:26:43): K.
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spies8owen (23:45:47): Uhh, if he's putting Isaac and Jenny up as well, he's gonna likely be in for a surprise.
spies8owen (23:46:2): If all he wants out of this is Chance to go.
spies8owen (23:46:48): I obviously need to talk to Chance and do some reading, but the other two he's considering giving me the opportunity to vote for are my top 2.
spies8broderick (23:47:40): lol
spies8owen is available (23:49:4)
spies8owen (23:50:46): Lovely. Both Claude and Allan giving crappy reasons to want people wrong. There's Claude in chat.
spies8owen (23:50:48): Then this
spies8owen (23:50:53): (2:48:46 AM) spies8allan: i want claude gone
(2:48:47 AM) spies8allan: so bad
(2:48:54 AM) spies8allan: just to get rid of his power, if anything

spies8owen (23:51:0): people gone*
spies8broderick (23:51:14): lol
spies8owen (23:51:27): "He's a better play than most of us"
spies8owen (23:51:33): Then if he's town, he'll be useful.
spies8broderick (23:52:13): I can understand that Claude would be selfish with his role and use it how he sees fit, since it is his role. However I disagree with how he is going about it. He is hell bent on seeing Chance gone. He doesn't seem to care what the rest of us think, and even admitted that his mind won't change.
spies8broderick (23:52:50): Themba I believe said much the same thing about Claude
spies8broderick (23:53:7): If Chance was such an awesome player, then he wouldn't be suspected
spies8owen (23:53:7): The Julia Award of Spies 8 goes to...
spies8owen (23:53:9): *drumroll*
spies8broderick (23:53:15): Claude
spies8owen (23:53:15): CLAUDE!
spies8owen (23:53:20): Shocker.
spies8broderick (23:53:25): I was surprised
spies8owen (23:53:36): Me too. I didn't even know I was gonna say it.
spies8broderick (23:54:7): I personally thought the award would go to Sam
spies8owen (23:55:16): lmao. Though I did already vote for him.
spies8owen is available (23:56:44)
spies8owen (23:58:7): Oh lord.
spies8owen (23:58:17): He's clearly never played Sipes.
spies8owen (23:58:18): Spies*
spies8broderick (23:58:31): lol
spies8broderick (23:58:42): Lilith had a similar thought about the immunities didn't she.
spies8owen (23:58:58): She said something like that
spies8owen (23:58:59): ?
spies8broderick (23:59:2): It seemed to me she was thinking of giving it to a suspcious person, so the field wouldn't be narrowed down to include her
spies8owen (23:59:48): Wow, I didn't notice that at all.
spies8owen (23:59:56): I just used an Isaac wow, FML.
spies8broderick (00:00:14): huh?
spies8owen (00:00:15): But I guess it wasn't technically an "Isaac wow" because I was genuinely surprised.
spies8owen (00:00:27): Isaac says "wow" to things a lot, usually things that aren't surprising.
spies8broderick (00:00:38): I had not noticed
spies8owen (00:00:55): I picked it up in my reading -- just something that annoyed me.
spies8owen (00:01:4): I don't feel like he's genuine.
spies8broderick (00:01:16): So what are you notIsaacwowing to?
spies8owen (00:01:36): Lil wanting to give it to someone least likely to be imprisoned.
spies8owen (00:01:41): For self preservation.
spies8broderick (00:02:5): I can't remember if that was the exact wording. But I recall her saying that she didn't want it narrowed down to herself
spies8owen is available (00:04:54)
spies8broderick (00:05:14): spies8lilith (19:15:51): Why don't we want spies to have immunity exactly?
spies8broderick (00:05:28): spies8lilith (19:16:21): I mean. If two cits get immunity, that increases the chance I go home. So I'm considering just basing it off of who I want to stay around and who I personally trust and don't want to see go.
spies8owen (00:05:33): Self preservation, for sure.
spies8owen (00:05:51): And again, selfish.
spies8broderick (00:06:10): spies8broderick (19:17:37): Yes it would narrow down the pool. But the spies aren't going to be imprisoning people just from the Republicans
spies8broderick (19:17:38): lol
spies8lilith (19:17:48): You never know XD.
spies8lilith (19:17:52): Actuall
spies8lilith (19:17:53): I think
spies8lilith (19:17:57): we should give immunities
spies8lilith (19:18:5): to former republicans
spies8owen is available (00:18:59)
spies8owen (00:19:39): Just saw this now.
spies8owen (00:19:47): What the hell is the point of giving it to former repubs?
spies8broderick (00:21:2): spies8broderick (19:18:11): We can't
spies8lilith (19:18:15): I mean
spies8lilith (19:18:20): former aka current republicans
spies8lilith (19:18:25): aka not any ex-democrats
spies8broderick (19:18:33): Why?
spies8stephanie (19:18:33): huh?
spies8owen (19:19:19) has entered the room.
spies8lilith (19:19:26): I think they'll keep trying to kill original republicans,
spies8owen is available (00:21:18)
spies8broderick (00:21:25): spies8broderick (19:19:42): Why do you think that Lilith?
spies8themba (19:19:44): is slipping!
spies8lilith (19:20:7): I really am hesitant about explaining this... but I'll do it anyways.
spies8lilith (19:20:26): Errrrr.
spies8jasmine (19:20:39): k back
spies8lilith (19:20:47): I actually would like to talk to Tina first before I explain it. Sorry.
spies8jasmine (19:20:52): can we give immunity to the other team too?
spies8lilith (19:20:56): I am being confusing, I know, lol.
spies8lilith (19:20:59): No, we can't.
spies8jasmine (19:21:6): o
spies8lilith (19:21:9): I just feel it'd be best if immunities went to original republican.
spies8lilith (19:21:30): Actually, I'm going to explain it, Tina is going to get mad at me, but here we go.
spies8jasmine (19:21:34): owen, why does everyone love you so much?
spies8owen (19:21:48): I wasn't aware that anyone "loved" me.
spies8jasmine (19:21:55): they voted u for ultimate powah.
spies8jasmine (19:21:59): lol
spies8lilith (19:22:16): First kill, dr. saved correctly. Mafia may therefore be able to predict which side Dr. is on. Next kill they choose Gabe (an original republican). I think the first saved target was a republcian, mafia now knows that dr is on the original republicans, and will continue to try to pick off the doctor.
spies8lilith (19:22:45): That's the only reason I could see Gabe being killed from what I heard, that he may be the Doctor.
spies8owen is available (00:21:25)
spies8broderick (00:21:26): lol
spies8owen is available (00:21:38)
spies8owen (00:22:31): Oh, the doc theory again.
spies8broderick (00:24:10): yes
spies8owen is available (00:24:43)
spies8owen (00:25:9): She's got tons of random theories.
spies8owen (00:25:13): Most of them actually seem to distract us.
spies8broderick (00:25:16): I found it odd that she was 'I'm hesitant about explaining.... I'll do it anyways'. 40 seconds later 'I'd like to talk to Tina first.' Then she explains it anyways
spies8owen (00:25:33): I don't know what needed to be discussed with Tina.
spies8broderick (00:25:51): I was getting quite annoyed by her.
spies8owen is available (00:26:8)
spies8broderick (00:26:13): A discussion would be happening in the group chat and she would popup with some theory or idea
spies8owen (00:26:39): Which would then cause a different discussion, and so on.
spies8owen (00:26:55): Tina even stepped in at one point after that and was like "and this is productive, how? New subject."
spies8owen is available (00:27:20)
spies8broderick (00:28:8): Huh?
spies8broderick (00:28:22): Tina was 'reprimanding' Lilith?
spies8owen (00:28:30): Yep, seemed like it. Or the group in general.
spies8owen (00:28:48): Though, we're not the ones spitting out random theories that have nothing to do with the vote.
spies8broderick (00:29:12): lol
spies8broderick (00:29:24): Some times I think she is faking.
spies8owen (00:29:33): Tina?
spies8broderick (00:29:35): Kiara actually brought it up to me, how she thought Lilith was faking.
spies8owen (00:29:39): Ahh.
spies8broderick (00:29:49): So I watched, and sometimes I think she does.
spies8broderick (00:30:1): She'll be all idk? and play uncertain and lost
spies8broderick (00:30:10): While others times she is much more certain
spies8broderick (00:30:20): Jasmine does similar things
spies8owen (00:30:22): Sometimes I think she comes up with unique thoughts, sometimes she brings up unique thoughts that throw us off track.
spies8owen (00:30:27): I haven't noticed that.

[Broderick]

HAMBONE

Saturday, July 03, 2010
spies8hambone (17:48:48): hey
spies8broderick (17:49:1): Hey Hambone
spies8hambone (17:49:11): u have been with kiara and jasmine for a little bit now
spies8hambone (17:49:14): whats with them?
spies8broderick (17:49:25): What do you mean?
spies8hambone (17:49:30): i just witnessed some huge doubleteaming
spies8hambone (17:49:42): as they stuck up for my main suspect
spies8broderick (17:50:27): Oh. Uhm no idea. Kiara was largely quiet last episode. Jasmine sort of the same, she was more of a distraction than a contributer.
spies8broderick (17:50:30): JAsmine is emotional
spies8hambone (17:52:3): ok
spies8hambone (17:52:4): so
spies8hambone (17:52:10): how has ur time in the game been so far
spies8hambone (17:52:14): who are u suspecting now
spies8broderick (17:57:33): It was going pretty good until people started getting emotionally drunk
spies8broderick (17:57:35): lol
spies8broderick (17:57:45): Jasmine is my number one suspect
spies8hambone (17:58:9): i wanna read the case on her for sure now
spies8broderick (17:58:9): How about you?
spies8hambone (17:58:12): cuz
spies8hambone (17:58:16): right when i enter the chat
spies8hambone (17:58:19): the girl is on my case
spies8hambone (17:58:22): wtf is that about
spies8broderick (17:58:28): She is emotional lol
spies8hambone (17:58:36): i didnt even say anything mean at that point
spies8hambone (17:58:40): and she says im suspicious
spies8hambone (17:58:44): um NICE TO MEET U 2
spies8broderick (17:58:52): My case on her is in scattered post sin my confessional.
spies8hambone (17:59:3): lol
spies8broderick (17:59:12): I think there are too many emotional people in this game
spies8hambone (17:59:22): like who
spies8broderick (17:59:25): Too much drama, it gets on my nerves
spies8broderick (17:59:49): Chance, Magalie, Jasmine top three who come to my mind
spies8hambone (18:04:58): mhm
spies8hambone (18:05:3): sorry
spies8hambone (18:05:6): to answer ur question
spies8hambone (18:05:8): on who i suspect
spies8hambone (18:05:16): my #1 suspect is jenny for sure
spies8hambone (18:05:27): she went from background to main foreground
spies8hambone (18:05:33): and theres so much shit shes done
spies8hambone (18:05:42): that could either be mega-spyish or mega-citish
spies8hambone (18:06:19): my #2 is possibly Claude (or Chance)
spies8hambone (18:06:30): one of them has got to be a Spy... and if not, then they both suck ass as cits
spies8hambone (18:06:53): i think that out of all the roles that have been revealed so far that theres gotta be a spy role in there
spies8hambone (18:06:59): cuz mafia usually get roles too
spies8hambone (18:07:9): and we've not seen any yet
spies8hambone (18:07:26): claude's role is personal, not for the team, so it may be him
spies8broderick (18:09:6): There has to be a spy role, at least one
spies8broderick (18:11:32): There seems to be an exile immune maker role
spies8hambone (18:11:45): whats that mean
spies8broderick (18:11:48): Chance and then Gertrude. Seems rather odd choices
spies8hambone (18:12:1): ohhh
spies8broderick (18:12:7): A role which makes people immune from exile
spies8hambone (18:12:23): yeah
spies8hambone (18:12:28): why are these ppl being chosen
spies8hambone (18:12:30): i dont get it
spies8broderick (18:12:56): They are odd choices. Gertrude was just coming under fire last episode I believe
spies8broderick (18:13:18): Either is is a spy role and they are using it to make citizens look suspcious, or they are saving their own teammates *shrug*
spies8hambone (18:15:28): i have no idea

[Broderick]

JENNY

spies8jenny (16:32:43): Hi Ricky!
spies8jenny is available (16:33:19)
spies8broderick (16:33:38): Hey Jenny
spies8jenny (16:34:15): Got to read up on last night's chat, figured I could clear up a little bit that Al was vague on.

He claimed to me 2 days after opening night, and he didn't claim to Ni-Ni until the day before exile 2.
spies8broderick (16:36:51): Oh K. Thanks. All I was aware of was that he claimed to you in the first couple of days, and to Nita sometime after Alexei went. From Owen
spies8jenny (16:37:12): So checking the dates, that would make the claim to me on June 18th, and Ni-Ni on the 23rd.
spies8jenny (16:38:15): I'm sure on the date for Ni-Ni because he asked me what I thought about him claiming to her a little bit before he did.
spies8broderick (16:41:35): Oh okay
spies8jenny (16:42:18): Hope that helps a little, since Al wasn't very clear about that when you asked him.
spies8broderick (16:42:45): Yeah he wasn't. But he was at least willing to discuss it. lol.
spies8broderick (16:42:47): Thanks
spies8jenny (16:43:12): I wish more people would come on. It's holiday weekend, perfect time to come on!
spies8jenny (16:43:24): 24 players, and we got 6 of them on.
spies8broderick (16:44:0): Yeah. I don't get it
spies8broderick (16:44:9): Like I see a lot of people just chillin' in the group chat.
spies8broderick (16:44:23): The last week, I have felt like I'm the only one really discussing things.
spies8jenny (16:44:29): It's been pretty quiet in there today so far.
spies8broderick (16:47:0): Maybe it'll pick up after Imprisonment, or the holiday? lol
spies8jenny is available (16:47:9)
spies8jenny (16:47:16): You'd think after holiday would be slower.
spies8jenny (16:47:35): I mean, it's holiday now! Perfect time to come online when nothing is happening!
spies8broderick (16:47:38): Meh sorta lol.
spies8jenny is available (16:47:41)
spies8broderick (16:47:51): Lots of people go and do outdoor stuff for this kind of holiday.
spies8broderick (16:48:0): BBQ, go on a lake, the beach, camping lol
spies8jenny (16:48:0): It's boring outside.
spies8jenny (16:48:20): "Oh look a tree. Exciting."
spies8jenny (16:48:38): "I'm going to go look at spies again now."
spies8broderick (16:48:57): lol
spies8jenny is available (18:16:53)
spies8jenny (18:16:55): So now that the world can be reasonably sure that Al's role is real, I wonder if Claude will still be reluctant to do that test with Al.
spies8jenny is available (18:17:12)
spies8broderick (18:17:21): He said he believed Allan's role.
spies8broderick (18:17:35): There is the reasonably part though. It doesn't prove he is a cit
spies8jenny is available (18:17:51)
spies8jenny (18:19:39): True, although I really don't see why a Spy would tell a cit about their role two days into the game like that. Or that the spies would put up with his falling apart and letting him explode like that if he was a spy role.
spies8jenny is available (18:20:11)
spies8broderick (18:20:29): Shit happens ? lol
spies8broderick (18:20:36): Spyris
spies8jenny (18:21:3): True, but this role at least doesn't contradict the rules of the game.
spies8broderick (18:21:15): lol
spies8jenny (18:21:36): So, you know, there's that at least.
spies8jenny (18:21:37):
spies8jenny (18:22:22): And I think her falling apart was connected with how little sense her role made, whereas Al was just from him thinking everyone hated him and not wanting to be around.
spies8broderick (18:22:54): Ahh K I see

[Broderick]

CORY

spies8cory (14:14:16): You perverted man, Broderick.
spies8broderick (14:14:28): lol whut
spies8cory (14:14:46): Chance was howling outside my fucking window last night
spies8cory (14:14:49): I blame you.
spies8broderick (14:15:3): btw I saw your comment in the group chat.
spies8cory (14:15:7): Which?
spies8broderick (14:15:25): [00:09] spies8cory: Chance
[00:09] spies8cory: According to Broderick, you and I were suppose to engage in some kind of... activity.
spies8broderick (14:15:33): lol
spies8cory (14:16:15): Lol.
spies8broderick (14:16:56): lol. I think you are more preverse than I.
spies8cory (14:18:4): I accuse with libel. I did not write such a thing, Broderick.
spies8broderick (14:19:22): rofl
spies8cory (14:20:54): It's bad enough that JasMan is trying to shank me on an hourly basis.
spies8cory (14:20:58): But not you send Chance after me.
spies8cory (14:21:3): Very considerate, Broderick.
spies8broderick (14:22:8): rofl. Sending him after you would requiring conversing with him. I don't much care for the guy/child.
spies8broderick (14:38:49): who are you suspicious of?
spies8cory (14:39:27): Sam
spies8cory (14:39:43): I am suspicious that he has orchestrated this entire ordeal.
spies8cory (14:39:49): His goal is to kill off all of the players
spies8cory (14:39:51): But as for Spies
spies8cory (14:39:54): Jenny
spies8cory (14:39:56): Chance
spies8cory (14:40:0): Isaac
spies8broderick (14:40:51): lol. he is sadistic like that. Creative and new ways to off people.
spies8broderick (14:40:54): Why those three?
spies8cory (14:41:2): I think we've discussed Jenny before
spies8cory (14:41:5): But let me list it agai
spies8broderick (14:41:29): K. Nothing comes to mind
spies8cory (14:41:49): 1) She voted against the Alexei wagon. Subtly defended him by comparing him to some Callahan from Spies 6 and saying she wanted to let him live for a while longer to make sure he wasn't some misunderstood noob.
spies8cory (14:42:2): I later asked her about what she thought of him at the time and she said she wasn't exactly sad to see him get votes
spies8cory (14:42:24): 2) Mary brought this one to my attention. But apparently Jenny got quiet in the episode 1 GOP chat a few times when the subject of Alexei was brought up
spies8cory (14:42:57): 3) Her strategy is to find Citizens instead of Spies, which is an ideal 'strategy' for a Spy to assume since it allows them to avoid flinging dirt at people.
spies8cory (14:43:10): 4) She claimed for Allan when, according to several people, Allan was not in danger of being exiled at the time
spies8cory (14:43:14): And most recently:
spies8cory (14:43:40): 5) She did not come forward with Nita's 3rd party role until after Nita was killed.
spies8cory (14:43:58): Chance:
spies8cory (14:44:27): 1) Chance's initial attack against Claude was hugely hypocritical. He accused Claude of not checking the facts that Chance himself messed up when Chance accused me of talking to Tina across teams.
spies8cory (14:44:43): 2) He was hellbent against Claude for two full episodes, allowing him not to have to look at anyone else in the game.
spies8broderick (14:45:4): K. I remember the Callahan bit now
spies8cory (14:45:7): 3) I'm pretty sure he was the one behind the misrepresentation of Mary during episode one, but in any case, he's done it on multiple occassions
spies8cory (14:45:17): Isaac:
spies8cory (14:45:46): Isaac is more focused on his appearance rather than actually finding Spies. During the first two episodes, he did little more than sit on the sidelines of the group chats while the drama went down.
spies8cory (14:46:0): He admitted as much to me when I asked him to show to me that I was wrong in this assumption prior to exile 2
spies8cory (14:46:12): His suspicion towards Jasmine in episode three is flimsy and barely coherent.
spies8broderick (14:46:59): Do you disagree with Jenny's reasons for not coming forward before about Nita?
spies8broderick (14:49:6): Do you think if Chance were a spy, he would try to not misrep?
spies8cory (14:51:37): I guess I can understand where Jenny was coming from, but ultimately I think coming forth was the ideal move.
spies8cory (14:51:51): If Jenny died, that info would be lost to her.
spies8cory (14:52:4): If she came forward, and Nita got imprisoned, good for us.
spies8cory (14:52:15): Nita would still need to look for Spies
spies8cory (14:52:23): As for Chance, I think he would after getting called out on it
spies8cory (14:52:24): Which he did
spies8broderick (14:54:22): So you think he doesn't misrep any more? Or at least he tries not to?
spies8cory (14:54:54): I haven't noticed it happen in a while
spies8cory (14:55:15): Just like he's no longer focusing solely on Claude anymore since he was called out on that as well
spies8broderick (14:58:15): So he has been looking at other people?
spies8broderick (14:58:26): I honestly have no idea whether or not he has, he largely looks like a fluffer to me
spies8cory (15:00:24): When he came back from vacation he made a point of not looking solely at Claude anymore
spies8cory (15:00:36): Started going after Magalie, Mary, and Gertrude
spies8cory (15:00:39): Not sure what he's done since then
spies8cory (15:06:20): So Broderick
spies8cory (15:06:28): Who do you suspect?
spies8broderick (15:07:2): Jasmine, Gertrude, and Stephanie.
spies8broderick (15:07:8): With a side of Lilith and Tina
spies8cory (15:07:10): Why Steph?
spies8cory (15:07:21): I think you told me a bit about Lilith
spies8cory (15:07:24): Or someone did.
spies8cory (15:07:32): I haven't heard good cases against Steph or Tina yet though
spies8broderick (15:07:53): Tina and Lilith are more 'keeping my eye on' for the time being
spies8broderick (15:08:24): Stephanie largely stems from a chat I had with her. I was asking her questions regarding her Episode 1 vote.
spies8broderick (15:09:19): she seemed incapable of giving me her opinions on things, and giving reasons that were here own to back up her own statements and actions in the game.
spies8broderick (15:12:9): From what I saw while reading a recent group chat transcript, Stephanie was the larger factor in Tina getting off of Lawrence last episode
spies8broderick (15:13:3): I have yet to find out exactly what that is about, but it is addressed in a post I am working on
spies8broderick (15:19:23): oh.my.god
spies8broderick (15:20:33): I pasted the wrong thing, highlighted and deleted it then went and copied the right thing. Go to paste it, and a large portion of my post is gone.
spies8broderick (15:20:43): Undo button please
spies8cory (15:36:9): Lol.
spies8cory (15:36:11): Back, sorry.
spies8cory (15:54:12): That's weird
spies8cory (15:54:20): Tina said she got off Lawrence because of his responses to her question
spies8cory (15:54:29): questions, in that thread she made.
spies8broderick (16:07:41): lol I fell asleep at my desk.
spies8broderick (16:07:49): I think she said similar to me
spies8cory (16:09:19): You damn drunk, stop falling asleep at your desk.
spies8broderick (16:10:14): lol I'm not drunk
spies8cory (16:11:50): Then what are you doing falling asleep at your desk, Broderick?
spies8cory (16:12:0): Did Hambone's terrible scent make you pass out?
spies8broderick (16:12:12): lol I fell asleep due to boredom

[Broderick]

CINNAMYN

spies8cinnamyn (19:16:20): whatsup broderick
spies8broderick (19:21:35): Hey Cinnamyn
spies8cinnamyn (19:22:9): how u doin boo
spies8broderick (19:22:57): Good you?
spies8cinnamyn (19:23:46): well im finally sober after da weekend, so figured i shud probly get back in2 da game, lmbo
spies8broderick (19:24:4): lol
spies8cinnamyn (19:24:40): r u still suspectin' jasmine 4 dis exile.?
spies8broderick (19:26:21): Yes
spies8broderick (19:27:4): Have been working on a novel ass post detailing my thoughts on every player. Cases/evidence for my 'top five' suspects.
spies8cinnamyn (19:28:37): my azz aint got dat much pashince
spies8broderick (19:28:46): lol.
spies8broderick (19:28:51): Mine is about run out.
spies8broderick (19:29:4): Started it almost five hours ago, and am not finished yet.
spies8cinnamyn (19:29:10): o lawd have mercy
spies8broderick (19:29:18): I took breaks for late lunch and dinner. Still lol
spies8cinnamyn (19:31:4): i am thinkin' jenny or izaac at dis point
spies8cinnamyn (19:31:23): tho nominatin' izaac when he aint here 2 defend hisself concerns me a lil bit
spies8broderick (19:31:39): Why those two?
spies8cinnamyn (19:32:10): jenny cuz her role shit n' nowin' bout nita n' saying ppl she thinks r citz 4 shure
spies8cinnamyn (19:32:24): not tryin' 2 persuade ppl frum not voting ppl she think iz citz
spies8broderick (19:35:15): Has she said why she looks for citizens instead of spies?
spies8cinnamyn (19:35:46): nope, jus' dat dat iz wut she doez
spies8cinnamyn (19:35:59): so if datz wut shez gonna do, she gotta try 2 push da cases away frum da ppl she think iz citz
spies8cinnamyn (19:36:1): but she aint doin that
spies8cinnamyn (19:36:5): so she aint helpin at all
spies8broderick (19:37:2): Has she said why she doesn't try to push the cases away from people she thinks are citizens?
spies8cinnamyn (19:37:35): not that im aware of
spies8cinnamyn (19:37:41): case and point wuz her claimin' 4 allan
spies8cinnamyn (19:37:53): but den not thinkin' savannah n' themba were spiez eitha
spies8cinnamyn (19:38:2): but she didnt say nothin' 2 get ppl 2 vote stephanie, her suspect
spies8cinnamyn (19:38:10): so errybody jus' went 2 savannah, n' she wuz exiled az a cit
spies8broderick (19:38:39): If she thought Savannah was a citizen, why not try to persuade against it?
spies8broderick (19:38:44): Has anyone asked her?
spies8cinnamyn (19:39:4): yea, i did
spies8cinnamyn (19:39:7): no gud response
spies8cinnamyn (19:39:16): i luked n' she menshined stephaniez name once in da chat after she claimed 4 allan
spies8cinnamyn (19:39:27): she says she tried 2 do it 1-on-1, but imma take dat wit' a grain of salt
spies8broderick (19:42:24): Can't be proven really?
spies8cinnamyn (19:43:46): i dont think so
spies8cinnamyn (19:43:53): n' y wudnt u do it 2 da grup
spies8cinnamyn (19:44:3): "hey yall, allan claimed 2 me..y not luk at stephanie insted.?"
spies8cinnamyn (19:44:4): dont seem hard
spies8broderick (19:45:53): It really doesn't. Was she actually suspicious of Stephanie, or just voted her because Savannah was?
spies8cinnamyn (19:47:31): according 2 jenny, stephanie wuz just "least cit"
spies8broderick (19:50:20): The least citizen out of the whole team, or the least citizen out of those receiving votes?
spies8cinnamyn (19:50:44): whole team
spies8cinnamyn (19:50:49): but dont quote me on dat
spies8broderick (19:53:4): K lol
spies8broderick (21:28:35): rofl. decade later it is posted
spies8cinnamyn (21:28:47): i will go read vigorously
spies8broderick (21:30:33): rofl. someone needs to read it. i was starting to see spots when i was looking for shit.
spies8broderick (21:30:51): i even need to reread it to make sure i made sense towards the end
spies8cinnamyn (21:35:48): i think itz good
spies8cinnamyn (21:36:3): n' gud dat we got sum discushin cuz it wuz slowin' down
spies8cinnamyn (21:36:6): i think morale iz low
spies8broderick (21:41:11): how come?
spies8cinnamyn (21:41:29): no spiez since exile 1
spies8cinnamyn (21:41:39): n' a lot of ppl were absent 4 a while
spies8cinnamyn (21:41:46): seemz gud tonight tho
spies8broderick (21:42:14): yeah. A lot of people have been on AIM today. I just couldn't get in the group chat cus I wanted to finish my post and shit.
spies8cinnamyn (21:43:15): i mos'ly agree wit ur post
spies8cinnamyn (21:43:47): i jus' have a runnin' theory about jasmine n' lilith that they aint spiez
spies8broderick (21:44:17): What theory?
spies8cinnamyn (21:45:8): i dont no, i think 1 mite b tha doctor n' tha other the persun da doc saved furst imprizinment
spies8cinnamyn (21:45:17): cuz im seein' a connecshin there, dey seem 2 defend each otha without much reazining
spies8cinnamyn (21:45:46): but i dont want a real doctor 2 come out in da open or n e otha role shit so im keepin' it 2 myself
spies8broderick (21:46:8): K I see.
spies8broderick (21:46:29): Why would either one be an imprisonment choice that early?
spies8cinnamyn (21:46:50): i dont no, im jus' tryin 2 think of reazinz y they wud trust each otha so implicitly
spies8broderick (21:46:55): Lilith wasn't even around the first episode, I'm having trouble seeing the spies pick someone who wasn't here, and the doc protecting for the same reason
spies8cinnamyn (21:46:59): tho i guess if they wuz both spiez dat wud work lmbo
spies8cinnamyn (21:47:23): jasmine wuz on earlier, went in chat n' asked if n e 1 had seen lilith, then left when we sed no
spies8broderick (21:47:32): lol
spies8cinnamyn (21:48:50): n' the part with lilith gettin' her 2 switch her vote seemz..off
spies8broderick (21:50:35): I don't get that, since she told me she suspected Jasmine previously
spies8cinnamyn (21:51:5): but y wud dey share dat if dey wuz both spiez.?
spies8broderick (21:51:53): I called them on it, and Jasmine provided the chat bit
spies8broderick (21:52:46): I think they are both new to spies and forum mafia. It could just be newness which makes them look scummy. But I am doubting that they are both citizens.
spies8cinnamyn (21:53:2): but ur leanin' towardz jasmine 4 da tyme bein'.?
spies8cinnamyn (21:53:6): im assumin
spies8broderick (21:53:12): Yes
spies8cinnamyn (21:54:0): she seemz 2 have a survivor mentality more den n e body
spies8cinnamyn (21:54:5): whether datz intenshinal or not, i dunno
spies8cinnamyn is available (21:55:16)
itty bitty piggy www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMZ5s7o2F88
spies8broderick (21:55:22): I am beginning to think that the ratio of newbies : experienced (in mafia or spies) favors the newbies
spies8cinnamyn is available (21:57:30)
itty bitty piggy www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMZ5s7o2F88
spies8cinnamyn (21:58:46): oh i definitely agree wit' u on that
spies8broderick (21:59:18): If it is true, I might be bashing my head against a wall frequently.
spies8broderick (21:59:37): I find with newbies, or those that simply lack the experience - can look scummy more often.
spies8cinnamyn (22:00:3): i think so 2, but im not going to take "im new" az an excuse 4ever
spies8broderick (22:00:25): I sometimes have difficulty distinguishing between newbie citizens who are just looking like scum, and scum who are looking like scum
spies8broderick (22:00:28): If that makes sense
spies8cinnamyn (22:01:7): or newbie scum who r lookin lyke scum
spies8cinnamyn (22:01:15): i cant imagine all spiez will b vetz

[Nita]

spies8nita (12:19:10): You know nothin, that what you know
spies8broderick (12:19:18): *ding ding*
spies8broderick (12:19:23): The bell is calling you Nita.
spies8nita (12:19:27): I can ding ding too!

(Silence)

spies8broderick (12:20:46): Is there any thing else you care to say, because I need to go back to work now
spies8nita (12:21:9): You go back to work, nobody here need you


My favorite moment round 4 was having this "fight" with you Christina. I was hoping a little drama might spare me from imprisonment (NO SUCH LUCK!). I tried to pull a Sandra and be like "I CAN GET LOUD TOO!" but it just came out completely ridiculous. Our rapid typing ended unexpectedly with this huge pause and I was choking with laughter in front of my computer.

[Mary]

I was in the room when this happened and I knew that's what you were trying to do. It made me sad knowing you knew you were in danger.

That's right after you and I had the conversation where I warned you that you were seen as too Cit and you should lay lower.

[Cory]

Todd: Helping obvcits everywhere avoid imprisonment since Spies 4.

[Nita]

Todd, the problem was, with my missions and the knowlege I had of the game at the time, I needed to appear visibly pro-cit. Missions like "exile a spy based on a case you made" or "have a roleholder claim to you" or "make up a bribe and have 3 people say they believe you". And then the one that really threw me off was "win a positive prize from a challenge or activity" - because in the past, games have had just 1, maybe 2 chances for someone to win a prize - and ever since Spies 3, a player needed to have the trust of other players to win in most cases (like Bebe, Gordy, Darla, and Jason winning investigations, or Chloe winning the confirmed citizen reveal. I had no idea that in this game there were many opportunities to win rewards because the voting twist wasn't revealed until the end of episode 3.