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Post by Cory on Jul 14, 2010 0:58:07 GMT -6
Pretty sure Owen has positively identified me as Kleyton. I've been trying to trick him into thinking I am Vladimir, though.
So Magalie is gone. RIP. You were one insane and hilarious player. The Burg will be a lesser place without you. Fortunately, we will also be less distracted. So as we march forth with yet another Spy gone, new questions must be asked. New people will be given attention. Episode five was probably the most productive in terms of collecting information. So, we'll see where we go from here.
I'm afraid of imprisonment for the first time this episode. Usually I can tell when the reaper comes collecting, and while I am not sure yet if he is knocking on my door, I know he's somewhere in the neighborhood, lurking the streets. Time to tread very, very carefully. If I can manage to survive for two episodes, both Owen and myself should be able to wield immunity from Gertrude. That would be ideal, as it would enable us to unleash some brutal attacks without fear of being taken by the Spies.
Yeah. Still in semi-pansy mode. Not ready for the game to end for me just yet. And as long as Tina & Owen are alive, it doesn't matter; I'm doing a lot of stuff behind the scenes.
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Post by Cory on Jul 14, 2010 0:58:36 GMT -6
Oh, and hi Apollo! <3 You going to be keeping me company this week?
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Post by Cory on Jul 15, 2010 20:31:08 GMT -6
Tonight we remember Gabriel, the Burg's first martyr. He gave his life in service of our righteous cause, to purge our Burg of this heinous corruption, and rid ourselves of those who would trample over our Constitutional rights. In his final days, he spent much of his time engulfed by what he loved most: mystery and the great hunt. It wouldn't be long after the Philosoraptor's one and only chat with the Great Gabriel that he would be slaughtered by the relentless... unforgivable act of Imprisonment in Episode Three. Gabriel had been known to anger the Spies. Especially the crazy ones: And he was known to exile them: It therefore is clear, now, why the Spies tried to kill the lad not once, but twice. On the dark and dreary evening of June the 28th, the Spies stirred... But he will not be forgotten!
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Post by Cory on Jul 16, 2010 1:43:45 GMT -6
In this episode, Cory finally starts trying to find Spies.
Stephanie: References Magalie only in episode five on the board. She nominates Chance, stating: "My vote is on Chance. I think that Chance and Lawrence are both spies, but I am thinking that Chance's death might give us more information."
After Magalie has her outburst, she changes stance up entirely: "It would not surprise me if Magalie's was a last ditch effort invented by Mags and her spy-buddies. If Mags is a cit and received this message, it seems like a more reasonable approach would have been to talk to the senate voters privately and tell them about it. (Did I just use reasonable and Mags in the same sentence?)"
This inconsistency needs to be explained. Magalie's outburst led me to believe the complete opposite, so it is bizarre that Stephanie would take the illogical position on this one.
Stephanie and Magalie also have next to no interactions in the group chats, at least judging by my personal log(which I should have most of, since I made an effort to stay logged in last episode). Magalie strikes me as the type of Spy who would avoid dialog with her Spy partners. I base this solely on the lack of interaction between herself and Isaac.
* The night following when Allan entered the chat room and announced that he had received a message from "beyond the grave," there was discussion about what had transpired. Stephanie showed complete ignorance to the entire situation:
I think this confusion is a point in her favor, as the message most definitely came from the Spies. If she were a Spy, she would know what was going on. The only alternative possibility is that she faked the confusion, and while this is certainly possible, I think it is not as likely as the reaction being genuine.
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Post by Cory on Jul 16, 2010 1:52:38 GMT -6
Dane: He also has very little interaction with Magalie, both on the board and in chat. On the board, he references her a single time, and takes a very fence-sitting position on her: " Magalie's an odd one, but I've never spoken with her that I can remember, so...meh."
Quick to dismiss her as a possibility. However, much like Stephanie, he is also quick to throw her under the bus when she has her spy message outburst:
Interesting to note how quick he is to try to paint Claude as the bad guy if she does flip Citizen. I note this because Claude was the one who was adamant about that being the actual case. Why would Claude look bad if Magalie wound up being a Citizen, much like he says? I'll need to clear this up with him.
All in all, Dane is either good at faking confusion, or is genuinely ignorant of certain things. For example, his comment about thinking Isaac being the spy messenger suggests he doesn't have inside knowledge. Note to self: Ask Dane why he thought Isaac was the Spy Messenger, and try to confirm this story with others.
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Post by Cory on Jul 16, 2010 2:08:11 GMT -6
Re Chance & Gertrude: The more I ponder it, the less I think it could be an elaborate hoax. Far too many people want Chance dead. And why, of all people, would he pick Gertrude? Their story also adds up, and Broderick listing them as a probable Spy pair is proof enough that they have been treating each other as non-suspects. Their story is elaborate, and their role actions add up completely. Gertrude & Chance becoming annoyed with me when I was forced to tell Mary that Chance had a role looks like the correct reaction as well, as it got Mary off their case; As Spies, they would have little reason to be annoyed by such a thing. These things could definitely be faked. However, there is no flaw to be seen so far in any of this.
If they're Spies, they will burn us hard. I just do not see myself testing that claim. Not for a long while.
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Post by Cory on Jul 16, 2010 2:12:11 GMT -6
Tina is an uncertainty that I hope will be cleared by her imprisonment. I maintain, at the moment, my relatively strong certainty that she is a Citizen. If she is a Spy, her play is far superior to that of Vladimir, whose insincerity indeed bled through back in Spies 7. Tina has sincerity in her effort to find Spies. She has her doubts. She has her frustrations in being unable to find the missing pieces. These subtleties are difficult to fake when you are one of the bad guys. If she is indeed aligned with the dark side, she is doing a magnificent job fooling us all.
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Post by Cory on Jul 16, 2010 2:16:00 GMT -6
Rondak is an enigma that I doubt I'll ever be able to resolve. Magalie was a harsh lesson for me. Ignorance of such extremes does not clear you. The problem with Rondak is he has absolutely no opinion on anything. Magalie at least was willing to get into it with a few people. She threw bullshit attacks against Claude. She attacked Jenny over the Nita revelation. She fought with Tina before she left. Rondak is a statue whose body strongly resembles that of a fluid man. He might even talk to you from time to time.
But in terms of being a part of the hunt, he most certainly is not. This is problematic because he will either skate to the end, or become a default lynch at some point or another.
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Post by Cory on Jul 16, 2010 11:21:14 GMT -6
I had one semi-lucid conversation with Magalie. FWIW, now that she's known spy, she told me: (12:44:08 AM) spies8magalie: these days I been trying to get more dirt on Claude because I honestly think hes the spy that holds all the other spies together (12:49:34 AM) spies8magalie: and lilith (12:52:29 AM) spies8magalie: Not that she only made it known that she sided with him but used him as an excuse to get chance out. Nothing about chance is spyish but more of a whiny girl but other then that I really dont think we have anything to worry about chance. Kicking dirt at Claude(probcit) and Lilith(defcit). This merely makes me believe Magalie was a non-busser.
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Post by Cory on Jul 16, 2010 13:38:36 GMT -6
Team Doc is coming.
Team Doc is coming for you fuckin' Spies.
You just aren't ready for us.
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Post by Cory on Jul 16, 2010 17:46:01 GMT -6
(05:43:35 PM) spies8stephanie: larry's looked scummy since the first moment i talked to him (05:43:45 PM) spies8stephanie: and his suspicions were all over the place (05:43:47 PM) spies8Cory: What looked scummy about em? (05:44:34 PM) spies8stephanie: he basically thought all of the democrats that came over to republicans were scum (05:44:44 PM) spies8stephanie: except lilith whom he hadn't met
Interesting. Further evidence that Lawrence's agenda contradicted that of Isaac's.
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Post by Cory on Jul 16, 2010 20:52:56 GMT -6
If you're a citizen then we have a problem, Cory. Have you ever once made a case on anyone? You talk a big game, Mister Philosowhatever, but when it comes down to it you're a bandwagoner. Was the case on Isaac yours? No. How about Camilla? Magalie? Lawrence? No, no, and no. Get your head out, kiddo, because I know you're better than that. You're arguably one of the most townlike people alive, but what exactly have you done to deserve that? Shape up. Aww Chance. I love you too?
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Post by Cory on Jul 17, 2010 7:02:12 GMT -6
It is discomforting how little Mary has been online ever since it was revealed to her that her Chance suspicions were incorrect. Perhaps she is demoralized after exerting so much effort to put up what ultimately was an elegant case, only to be told it was incorrect. However, the hunt goes on, and we need her help more than ever at this stage of the game.
Random aside, did anyone else feel that earthquake at 5:04 PMAM Eastern Time?
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Post by Cory on Jul 17, 2010 7:08:49 GMT -6
Tonight I shall either mourn the death of my dear friend Tina, or myself be taken by the spooky Spies of the Burg. Tis' Imprisonment that makes this game bittersweet, for you meet all of these awesome people, but must face one of the harshest realities of life: that everyone's time will come. And so tonight shall we face this harsh reality when someone's light is doused as they move away from the land of the living.
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Post by Cory on Jul 17, 2010 8:28:05 GMT -6
Kiara:
~~From Stephanie: June 27 2010~~
A weak point in her favor. Similar to Broderick/Lilith, why would Kiara try to paint Gabriel in a bad light when (A) She knew he would never get exiled since the Doctor had saved him, and (B) She knew they would be imprisoning him in a few days anyway?
06/20: Exile 1 06/22: Imprisonment 2 06/24: Exile 2 06/28: Imprisonment 3 07/01: Exile 3 07/03: Imprisonment 4 07/06: Nominations 4 07/07: Exile 4 07/09: Imprisonment 5 07/13: Exile 5
This means she made the comment a day before Gabriel was imprisoned for the second time.
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Post by Cory on Jul 17, 2010 15:30:43 GMT -6
Tread carefully, soldier.
They're coming.
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Post by Cory on Jul 17, 2010 20:44:14 GMT -6
Well, that was anticipated... Still very saddening. I liked Tina a lot.
And next week, Owen and I must decide which of us is taking the immunity, and which of us is taking the bullet.
Very sad times, indeed.
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Post by Cory on Jul 18, 2010 1:32:35 GMT -6
Owen and I are fed up with the game right now. Both of us welcomes Imprisonment, yet one of us must accept the immunity. Right now, I have told Gertrude that Owen should get it. I stand a better shot at surviving next episode without it. Besides that, I honestly don't mind dying anymore. This game is wearing me out. Not that I'll bail; I don't quit things that are not finished, but, ugh...
I don't know. Seems like nobody's really playing anymore. Where's Mary? Kiara? Awohali? Lawrence? Too many MIAs, and some people like Cinnamyn are barely there as it is. The fun players like Gabriel, Nita, and Tina, have been axed. There are a few quirky ones left, such as Hambone, Mary, and Cinnamyn, but I feel this lingering inhibition all around. I also feel like Owen is only one who has his mind set on the right path.
So yeah. Feeling a little blech about things right now.
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Post by Cory on Jul 18, 2010 1:38:15 GMT -6
Guess I should mention here that I informed Claude that I am the doctor. No, this was not an impulsive decision. Gertrude and Chance forbid Owen and I to bring Claude in on things. Gertrude got pissed off last week that I had to clue Mary in that Chance had a role after she picked up on Owen and myself being unreasonable in our unwillingness to vote him - a drastic shift from our previous stances(well, mine at least).
So after Claude's ridiculous use of his role, forcing Owen to vote between Kiara, Zedekia, and Chance, and with Tina gone and me standing a decent chance of being next on the chopping block, I figured I needed to vouch for Owen. Once I am gone, Owen will have but his own word to back this tale. I can categorically prove my innocence, thereby confirming the tale once Owen delivers it.
I should also mention that we decided to clue him in on the details should he get his vote back. The simple reason being that Claude will fight for Chance's head until the crows come calling if we do not. By then, it may be too late.
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Post by Cory on Jul 19, 2010 10:44:08 GMT -6
Rondak reads as a glaringly obvious Spy to me.
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Post by Cory on Jul 19, 2010 10:46:39 GMT -6
Seriously considering just outing myself to a ton of people to try to manipulate this vote away from Chance.
I'm a dead man walking anyway. And not because I'm some "great" spy hunter; I'm anything but that. But the simple fact of the matter is that there are few better options left. Chance is a great exile target. Claude is a great Spy asset as long as he is on the wrong trail. Gertrude and Jenny are laying low. Stephanie is nutso. Hambone is laying low. Mary is MIA. Owen has immunity.
This leaves the Philosoraptor as one of those people who could be a big problem for the Spies late in the game, and also someone who will most likely(from their limited perspective) never be exiled.
So why the hell should I keep quiet?
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Post by Cory on Jul 19, 2010 10:50:13 GMT -6
(10:49:26 AM) spies8Cory: So, any new suspicions surface since our last chat? (10:49:51 AM) spies8rondak: nope, I'll just be tunneling Chance due to my lack of interaction with other players
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Post by Cory on Jul 19, 2010 18:32:21 GMT -6
According to Claude, Mary is on vacation.
This is good news.
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Post by Cory on Jul 19, 2010 18:44:57 GMT -6
Hmm, Zedekiah... Less sure of him. I questioned him about his interactions with Isaac, primarily asking him what he and Isaac had spoken about in the past. He responded by sending me a PM containing a fairly detailed private chat( 12 messages, but long ones ). I did not request this, and I don't think his intentions were bad. Either way, it has me wondering if they'd actually go through the trouble of faking a chat like this. Those two don't strike me as very sophisticated. Zed's Magalie vote was sloppy and lazy, but today he put a lot of effort into narrowing down some suspects, and threw my name into the mix. So points for him.
As previously mentioned, Brondak seems pretty suspicious. Just a lot of things don't add up with him, like his weird backpeddling on Chance. The fact he has no suspicions at all. The fact he wants Chance exiled for information. Just all sketchy things.
I'm leaning towards ignoring that little Kiara tidbit I posted earlier. Could easily be faked, and I needn't allow myself to get burned over something so small. I'd vastly prefer her exile out of Chance/Kiara/Zedekia(Owen's three options).
Hopefully Gertrude gets her vote back. That will make the Senate consist of: Owen(+), Cinnamyn(+), Mary(+), Cory(+), Claude(-), Gertrude(+)
+ / - simply means for / against a Chance exile. Looks like Claude may not need to find out about Chance after all.
Although I probably should'nt give Mary a + so easily. Lord knows what Simon has told her this past week without Doctor Cory around to maintain the psychiatric balance.
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Post by Cory on Jul 19, 2010 18:57:16 GMT -6
I guess I should post this here:
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Post by Cory on Jul 19, 2010 20:25:08 GMT -6
aaahahaha
We just told Claude that Chance and Gertrude are Masons, along with the whole Angel/Devil gig. He is FLIPPING out.
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Post by Cory on Jul 19, 2010 20:57:50 GMT -6
I feel like Owen and myself(and previously, Tina) have pretty good ideas of who the Spies are and are not, but we simply do not control the masses. It's coming around, kind of, with these roles going out into the open slowly, but it's still difficult. There are two battles to the game of Spies: Finding the bad guys, and controlling the chaos of the player base. These two battles will eat you alive after a few weeks in the game, as it has begun to do with me.
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Post by Cory on Jul 19, 2010 22:24:23 GMT -6
This confessional needs some Stephanie Love!
She is always there and trying, but so under appreciated. She's one of those players you tend to forget is there. But she tries so hard, and while some of her ideas are a tad nutso, you must appreciate the effort. It's far more than many are exerting.
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Post by Cory on Jul 20, 2010 8:59:22 GMT -6
If Rondak is a Spy, I'm screwed.
If Awohali is a Spy, I'm probably screwed as well, since I told him straight up that I suspect him.
Zedekiah and Broderick are the only two who seem to suspect me to some extent, and Broderick's just a laughable case of jumping at any shadow he sees. I mean, I already told him the other day that Owen didn't get imprisoned because of a role or gift used on him. Last night he approaches me and again questions me on why Tina was imprisoned over Owen, and apparently completely forgot what I had told him. So this time I just made up some bullshit and he ran with it. Our chat last night was annoying, as it mainly consisted of him trying to discredit everything I said. Not a shocker that Cinnabuns blocked him.
(11:22:20 PM) spies8broderick: Are you going to investigate, or think it doesnt matter? (11:22:35 PM) spies8Cory: I don't think it does. I mean, what implication would it have exactly? (11:22:48 PM) spies8broderick: Well why do you think Tina was picked over Owen? (11:23:07 PM) spies8Cory: Tina is a more imminent threat. (11:23:17 PM) spies8broderick: How so? (11:23:23 PM) spies8Cory: She builds cases. Owen doesn't (11:23:38 PM) spies8Cory: Owen has kind of laid low (11:23:40 PM) spies8broderick: So Owen is a sheep? (11:23:52 PM) spies8Cory: No, but his efforts are less public (11:25:39 PM) spies8broderick: Even his part in Alexei? (11:26:23 PM) spies8Cory: I'm not sure what part he played, really (11:26:47 PM) spies8broderick: He contributed to the case, and I believe he said in a group chat with Claude that he was on Alexei before any one else. (11:29:06 PM) spies8broderick: [20:00] spies8owen: Claude, I was pushing Alexei to people before the case was posted. (11:29:42 PM) spies8broderick: [19:58] spies8cory: How about Owen's participation in Alexei's exile? (11:30:02 PM) spies8broderick: Considering you were in that chat, I now find your "I'm not sure what part he played, really" a bit suspect (11:30:19 PM) spies8Cory: Ok (11:30:20 PM) spies8Cory: Lol (11:30:23 PM) spies8Cory: Whatever? (11:30:37 PM) spies8broderick: Why would you lie? (11:30:51 PM) spies8Cory: I was asking if Claude had looked into it (11:31:42 PM) spies8broderick: [19:58] spies8cory: How about Owen's participation in Alexei's exile? [19:58] spies8jenny: Not to mention half the burg was behind it at the time. [19:59] spies8claude: Owen's 'pariticipation' in Alexei's exile is not that impressive. Most of the work was already done when he got involved. [19:59] spies8cory: Owen's been behind three Spy exiles. [19:59] spies8owen: ... [19:59] spies8owen: I was one of the first on Alexei. [19:59] spies8owen: Do some research before pulling a Broderick. [19:59] spies8claude: If 'one of the first' means after Nita and Tina posted their case and he completely fell apart, then sure. [19:59] spies8owen: This, by the way, is why I didn't want to talk to Claude at the moment. [19:59] spies8owen: I'm being an asshole. [20:00] spiesXTonisha: has joined the chat [20:00] spies8stephanie: claude, what do you think of cinnamyn? [20:00] spies8owen: Claude, I was pushing Alexei to people before the case was posted. [20:00] spies8stephanie: mary? and cory? [20:00] spies8chance: he doesn't care. [20:00] spies8claude: I think she looks better afte the Magalie lynch. [20:00] spies8claude: And I've been solid on Mary and cory for practicaly the entire game. [20:00] spies8chance: ask yourself how likely it is that kiara or zedekiah were going to be nominated this episode. [20:00] spies8cory: But if Chance is a Spy, then she shouldn't look better. (11:32:09 PM) spies8broderick: Considering you said something before and after Owen says how he was one of the first on Alexei (11:32:21 PM) spies8Cory: not sure what your point is (11:32:28 PM) spies8broderick: How is "I'm not sure what part he played, really" not a lie? (11:32:48 PM) spies8Cory: Because I'm not? I don't know specifics (11:32:51 PM) spies8Cory: I assume he was involved (11:32:58 PM) spies8Cory: Since he was a voter (11:33:24 PM) spies8broderick: Even though he said in this chat, which you were apart of, and reading - that he was one of the first on Alexei, and was pushing him on other people? (11:34:19 PM) spies8Cory: *shrugs* (11:34:20 PM) spies8Cory: Assumption (11:34:33 PM) spies8Cory: I don't know specifics (11:34:41 PM) spies8Cory: Lol, not sure what you're trying to bait me into, Brod (11:34:50 PM) spies8broderick: Not baiting you into anything Cory (11:34:59 PM) spies8broderick: Pointing out how you lied (11:35:05 PM) spies8Cory: Oh, yes. I lied. (11:35:07 PM) spies8Cory: Tell the Burg. (11:35:15 PM) spies8broderick: Nice attitude (11:35:19 PM) spies8Cory: Yep. It is. (11:35:49 PM) spies8broderick: How old are you? (11:35:58 PM) spies8Cory: Old enough to be a lifeguard. (11:37:11 PM) spies8broderick: Good to know. Humans or animals? (11:37:27 PM) spies8Cory: Raptor. (11:37:46 PM) spies8broderick: Been hunting spies lately? (11:38:04 PM) spies8Cory: We were just chatting about various theories earlier, so obviously. (11:38:20 PM) spies8broderick: Who was? (11:38:23 PM) spies8Cory: You and me. (11:39:02 PM) spies8broderick: Chatting about theories is spy hunting? (11:39:19 PM) spies8Cory: Um, yes? (11:39:38 PM) spies8broderick: How so? (11:40:08 PM) spies8Cory: Obviously because you exchange ideas. (11:40:14 PM) spies8Cory: This exchange of ideas gives you insights (11:40:21 PM) spies8Cory: And to have ideas to begin with you must look (11:40:24 PM) spies8Cory: Therefore, it is hunting.
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